Topping from the Bottom

 

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In last week’s post I had an exchange with yet another attention seeking girl of 25. I wont be giving her any more than what she already thinks is her due writing for XOJane, however the topic of BDSM came up and I wanted to explore that a bit this week.

It’s no coincidence that the movie adaptation of 50 Shades of Grey is opening on Valentines Day this Saturday, so rather than my annual V-Day post I figured I’d also do a bit of early prognosticating about the knots the fem-stream media will be tying themselves into by this time next week.

Just as a recap, the exchange with this girl centered on her dissatisfaction with her boyfriend’s assertiveness and dominant status with her. At her insistence he Alpha’d up for her, but I was incredulous about her believing he’d done so, and with any amount of genuineness. For a man to Just Get It, he must get it on his own. Any woman inserting herself into the process of him just getting that he ought to be more dominant with her defeats the legitimacy of that change with her.

Observing a process will change that process. Just as genuine desire cannot be negotiated, neither can genuine change in a man’s mindset be negotiated at a woman’s insistence.

Hypergamy only believes the dominance of a man that a woman finds in him, never the one a woman needs to create in him.

During this exchange our goth girl mentioned she was into BDSM and the whole picture came into perspective:

Now I got it.

Sub in the dungeon, Dom in public. Most women into (overt) BDSM have issues with reconciling their desire for being dominated by a man and submitting to him in any other aspect of life.

I’m not surprised you felt the need to ask him to be more dominant. It’s not about his asserting himself with others it’s about your need for a genuinely dominant man giving you tingles. You want him to dominate you, but it doesn’t come naturally to him.

It sounds better to promote the image of him being a socially dominant character who’s come into it because you want that guy to be the character you fantasize he is in the dungeon.

You want a guy who’s genuinely dangerous, objectifying and powerful when you’re having sex, but you want the security and trust that comes from knowing he’s really safe, in control and socially dominant enough to ensure your security with his decisions.

That’s why BDSM is appealing to feminists. The dominance gets them off because it’s wrong, a taboo they shouldn’t really like because the feminist dogma says it’s disgusting to submit to a man (especially for an “empowered” woman), but the fantasy aspect of it legitimizes the desire and separates the “real” woman from the “sex act” woman.

I’m using the term “dungeon” metaphorically here, but I think it’s apt for any sex environment we put ourselves into with another person. One of the many aspects of masculine ridicule is the caricature of the strong, dominant business man paying for and playing the role of pathetic, tortured submissive to his vinyl-clad dominatrix with a whip, knee-boots and a bad attitude. The cliché serves the purpose of male ridicule of course, but it also reinforces the the latent message that those CEOs who rule the world, in their sexual selves, are really pathetic ass lickers who get off on humiliation from strong, independent women. Their sexual identities is who they really are.

Commenter 447 followed me up in that thread:

Things/actions that are called BDSM or can be put into that category (which can even be acts without any fetish objects, basically even normal, hard sex where the man just has his way with a female can be put there by twisting semantics) just *concentrate and thereby CORNER* all of femininity into ONE corner of the spectrum of life: Sex.

That explains a lot – from the massive number of Shades of Grey-Copies sold to the (sometimes almost comical) attempt of many young women to be “sexually perverted” even if they are not:

It is the only socially acceptable form known to them to be truly female today: By being a “whore”.

Only banged one feminist – can just add +1 to the description above – the more feminst bullshit they talk, the more they desire to be a sex slave or even an abused victim(!) in the bedroom. +1 to “explanations for rape hysteria” btw.

Roleplaying Games

As women find themselves coming into the open acceptance of Hypergamy and recognizing the social control they wield, the overstated perception they have with regard to their sexual market value will inflate with their collective egos. We address this often in the manosphere about how women’s self-perception of their SMV is grossly, unrealistically, inflated by social networks, media and popular culture. My assertion here is that BDSM – not just the overt kind, but the interplay of dominance and submission in any sexual intercourse – will become women’s fantasy outlet for a natural desire to be dominated by men.

In the case I illustrated with the CEO relegating himself to his mistress as a slave, so too will women’s sexual selves be a role they’ll play, and that role will be normalized for women through a feminine-primary social order. While men can be comfortably ridiculed for their desire to be dominated, women are sold the idea that their sexual selves are not their real selves, thus the need to be submissive can be forgiven of the strong independent woman® because her sexual self is not “who she really is.”

The Feminine Imperative defines for men that his ridiculous sexual identity is who he really is, but for women her sexual identity is a role she plays that insulates her from her real ’empowered’ identity. Through this roleplaying, women can reconcile and satisfy their real need of masculine dominance while maintaining the strong independent woman® identity that feminine-primary society expects of them.

In this sense women are put into a socially acceptable, socially expanded, form of topping from the bottom. The idea is that women can safely control and accommodate that want of sexual submission without losing self-respect by challenging the feminine social narrative of female state control. So long as that desire and the act are considered a fantasy that they can separate their true selves from, the sexual submission to a dominant man they desire can be balanced and reconciled if that act isn’t who they really are.

Furthermore there is a tantalizing sexual wrongness to engaging in submission only in a sexual theater. This is what fem-stream media will twist itself into knots about in the week following the opening of 50 Shades of Grey. In an era of Yes Means Yes consent forms and fantastical, falsified, rape hysteria, the go-to rationale for the runaway success that 50 Shades of Grey will undoubtedly be will be exactly this “its a fantasy so it’s ok, it’s not the real woman” separation of desire and ego preservation.

This is how the rape fantasy elements will be dealt with in the aftermath of so wildly popular a movie. It turns women on because it’s not supposed to turn them on. What fem-blogs will confront is the true nature of women’s Hypergamy being openly (likely proudly) embraced, but at the same time conflicting with the rape culture messaging that’s been pounded into our collective consciousness for the better part of 2014. Feminine duplicity will be on display and women will either say it’s their due, it’s “not for real” or that it’s Patriarchal sexual repressiveness that’s brought them to this (male shame).

Dalrock delivered this fantastic comment in one of my threads years ago, but I’m reminded of it now:

These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.

They want this all to happen without giving up their freedom; they want to play this out in the context of serial monogamy, so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.

They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling unsafe.

One more thing. As I mentioned above they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimic would appear. They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control the next. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.

The safeness women hope to effect for themselves can’t be entrusted to men. The dominant Alphas are inherently dangerous, and the more Beta men are too commonplace and less empowered than women themselves. The solution then is to rig the social structure to accommodate women’s thrill-seeking by socially expecting men to accept being topped from the bottom irrespective of “who a woman really is.”

The main reason ‘goth girl’ will never be content with a boyfriend she had to encourage to be more dominant is because his passivity was his mental point of origin for him. He’s already safe, before he’s allowed to play the role of dominance by her.

A Note About V-Day

If you haven’t read my previous V-Day post you may want to before Saturday. Considering it falls on a weekend and the impending “we’re just as sexual as men” lather women will likely work themselves into over 50 Shades, it might be a good refresher. I understand that some of my manosphere contemporaries are getting onboard with the billing that 50 Shades’ release will make for orgy-like conditions on V-Day, and while I’ll concur for the most part I think there are far more significant considerations men need to be aware of.

For the married or LTR man who’s wife insists on taking him to see the movie, or one who insists on a GNO with her semi-monogamous girlfriends there will be no post-movie orgy. One of the most common rationales I hear from men when their woman wants to go off with her friends to a male strip ‘revue’ is “hey, let her go have a good time, she’ll just bring that sexual impulse home to me, right?” These men are only rationalizing their part in their own cuckoldry.

The real question is how into sex do you think your wife would be after your coming home from hitting the strip club with your boys, downing three $12 appletinis and smelling like stripper perfume? Or better yet, perhaps you suggest you both hit a strip club together after you watch 50 Shades? You’re only taking that sexual energy home for each other after having outside sexual cues turn you on. Christian Grey will be the man fucking your wife while you sit on and watch.

For single men the situation is a pussy bonanza if you can play the ‘lonely hearts club’ Game correctly. On any other V-Day I’d suggest men capitalize on GNOs and women commiserating about how inadequate men are these days while they tie one on. The likelihood that an order of 50 million women will have seen 50 Shades just prior to hitting the bars with their girls on this night only makes your efforts that much easier with better sexual dividends.

While not overtly playing the Christian Grey role, if you cop the dominant energy (or if that’s what you’re about already) you can help a girl work off that energy. It would be too easy to say these women will be primed for Game, but remember, feminine-primary acculturation has taught her to justify the action of her sexual self apart from her real self. Saturday night may be the one time getting a girl to sign a sexual consent form will work in a man’s favor.

All that said, the opportunity for observing open Hypergamy in the field will be hard to ignore. Enjoy the mental-hamster contortions women will use to justify behaving exactly like the cads they claim to hate, and their sad sack Beta men sitting dutifully at home changing diapers while the girls are being girls. My advice would be to use that open Hypergamy environment to your advantage, but demonstrate it, don’t explicate it to them.

Be aware. You will see a great many Red Pill truths come to light in a short time frame. It may be a shinning opportunity to make your Blue Pill friend Red Pill aware.

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farmlegend
6 years ago

Chokemah-
“Treat them well (from a manosphere standpoint), and they will treat you well. Very well.”

Seriously, even equipped with all the king’s horses and all the king’s men,
I could not construct a remark that was more totally bullshit than this one.

forgethesky
forgethesky
6 years ago

Baby steps, Jeremy. I’m fine at writing but still a novice at taming the feral hamster. I don’t want to teach it too many new tricks at once.

forgethesky
forgethesky
6 years ago

Besides, don’t you know that if a girl has childhood trauma she projects it upon the alpha and dreams of curing it with her pussy? The pussy cures all, it’s magic and powerful and beautiful. As an amusing aside, this kind of happened to me IRL. Ironically, the process did help me see how some thing in my past may have affected me more than I might have guessed. Not nearly as badly as she suspected perhaps, but it was still helpful. I also enjoyed the, ah, ‘healing’ process. Lol girls can be fun if you look at it all… Read more »

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
6 years ago

“How do you account for all the black men with fat bleach blonds?” I account for some of them the same way I do for any other men with fat women. And some of the common ways are he’s fat too, or at least not many women would find physically attractive. Or he’s blue collar. Or she used to be okay but progressively gains weight as many women do. Or they get together because she didn’t try to make everything difficult. Black men being drawn to or only getting low quality white women is something that black women like to… Read more »

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
6 years ago

I also want to say while the public viewed Tiger as a black man, and other golfers did too. He really didn’t view himself that way. He just never said anything about it. Unless he was asked about it a few times in an interview. But as long as he had people rooting for him because of the lack of anybody else besides middle aged white men in golf, he was willing to roll with it. Funny things is once all the stuff with Ellen came out, more people started saying he was mixed. With the needle leaning more towards… Read more »

jacklabear
6 years ago

I guess you don’t live around here.

Randy the Random
Randy the Random
6 years ago

One more thing, white men’s envy of Muslim mating arrangements is only eclipsed by their denial of its existence. So many times I have heard men confess their taboo realizations that maybe,just maybe, these barefoot, uneducated, unsophisticated goat herders have a better quality of life than any white man trapped in a McMansion ever will. They have freedom to rule their home with an iron fist, their women are their property, and no strange man imposes his will upon their chosen style of life. There was a time when the west functioned in this manner, but it was centuries ago.… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
6 years ago

Tiger Woods. He has a toxic mind after he was discovered to lack integrity and throw sperm to the groupies. Golf is a refined, relaxed, mind/physical slice of art that needs peace, and a clear fore-brain. (i.e. non-thinking, let the sub-conscience do it’s thing). In golf, you also have to leave the past behind and think about the next shot. How the hell is Tiger able to leave the last shot behind him? Those of us that are color blind would call into question the content of his character. The color of his skin is irrelevant. His race is totally… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Jeremy

I’m guessing you might as well put up a sign on the Japanese SMP that says, “Anyone other than Alpha crime lords, bankers, and politicians need not participate.”

Word has it that if you’re foreign and in a bar, high chance the “hunters” will hit on you and buy you drinks. Haven’t had a chance to confirm, though I think I might if I get the chance.

Not Born This Morning
6 years ago

Chokemah- “Treat them well (from a manosphere standpoint), and they will treat you well. Very well.” What a fantasy. Do you really expect us to think you are some kind of master white knight curator of all pussy in the universe and you are being or have been “treated very well” in exchange for “treating them well”. You are only fooling yourself. The truth is exactly the opposite of your false claim. No “good deed” goes unpunished and the welfare recipients aren’t reciprocating, nor will they ever. It is survival of the fittest as programmed by nature and ther is… Read more »

jacklabear
6 years ago

Chokmah,

What does it mean to “treat women well (from a manosphere standpoint)”

And what does it mean for them to “treat us well, very well”

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Randy

I get it now. You’re just a raving psychotic racist piece of shit decrying other raving psychotic racists pieces of shit.

Kill yourself.

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
6 years ago

Tiger’s race played a part in his celebrityism and fascination. His game is gone because he’s been zapped back to overly self conscious nerd who’s worried about looking bad. Make the story the same but change golf to anything else, you’d see the same struggles.

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

“Is anyone else here aware that Christian Grey in Fifty Shades of Grey was introduced to BSDM by a dominatrix when he was an adolescent”

yes, I mentioned it in the comment where I said he was a submissive from 15-21

key to making the books work was to have the idea he could be tamed, domesticated, and manipulated by a woman’s love

anon
anon
6 years ago

The thing that most annoys me about this 50 Shades thing is the idea that this is news or that people (men or women) are just now being introduced to these ideas. 99% of men and 94% of women fantasize about light bondage (with the woman the submissive, of course). 99% of men and 89% of women actually enjoy such light bondage (arms tied behind the back, fuzzy pink handcuffs, perhaps wrists tied above head to bed frame — no pain, just “normal” sex and teasing with this light bondage). Of course, no woman wants to be kidnapped at gunpoint… Read more »

anon
anon
6 years ago

Tiger Woods absolutely got fucked up because of marrying that girl. Marriage has ruined many men. Even Abe Lincoln was half-insane because of his insane BPD wife.

Moody
Moody
6 years ago

You have an eye for prophecy Rollo. My facebook feed has blown with feminist infighting revolving around 50 Shades of Grey. Here’s a small take home gem someone spouted off:

“In true BDSM culture, the SUB is the one with all the power. Every scene, everything done is to ensure their safety, happiness and sanity. If the Sub ever says no or uses their safe word, it is the Dom’s job to fix what caused the problem to the Sub’s approval. “

Jeremy
6 years ago

@anon

Tiger has no game… And by that I mean female-interaction game… obviously the man can play golf.

He’s just another in a long line of celebrity men who relies on his wealth and fame to get women, and has never had to learn how to deal with actual female nature.

Mr T
Mr T
6 years ago

I love to see the divorce rate of women who works for CEOS in the coming months.
I wonder how a CEO feels showing up to work on Monday .

jacklabear
6 years ago

Jeremy February 12th, 2015 at 2:26 pm “@anon Tiger has no game… And by that I mean female-interaction game… obviously the man can play golf. He’s just another in a long line of celebrity men who relies on his wealth and fame to get women, and has never had to learn how to deal with actual female nature.” That’s why I said that he could have had a quality Consort who would stay with him full time for a week at a time for $10000/week. Oddly, I can’t seem to find the agencies on the web like I saw a… Read more »

Atticus
Atticus
6 years ago

@chokeme. “What I did notice is that you used your admin privileges to change my handle. I really don’t care about that, but it is the height of dishonesty, and it brings your entire message under question. Not even that I disagree with your message—I don’t. But your honesty or dishonesty bolsters or taints your word. That’s just a universal principle.”

So you post under multiple handles to hide from some secret nefarious internet stalkers and then accuse Rollo of dishonesty. Priceless. You’re defintely a broad.

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

GQ review:

http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2015/02/vagina-reviews-50-shades-of-grey.html

“This isn’t a movie for your mind. It is a movie for your vagina. Maybe your Mom’s vagina too. Remember that R. Kelly song that goes “My mind’s tellin’ me ‘NO’ but my body’s sayin’ ‘YES'”? That is the 50 Shades of Greymoviegoing experience to a tee. Or to a vee, rather. So I deferred to the expert and checked in with my vagina after the movie. And, hooboy, she fucking loved it.”

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

Stop civilization, I’d like to get out now.

jacklabear
6 years ago

You could live and work in Antarctica

Wingfield
Wingfield
6 years ago

Off topic here, a little. Apologies. Just wanted to make an appearance and say a few words. I’m female. I had an interaction with a high status “Alpha” male. He had all the things in place to be a “natural”–beautiful, built, brilliant, tortured, and also knew game. A very deadly, dread-infused one, and he worked me hard with it. He used it very skillfully and it all worked seamlessly, just as all accounts say, and it was fascinating to watch myself succumb, although incredibly painful to go through. He was married, and most of it took place over a two-year… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
6 years ago

@Wingfield What exactly is the point of that long paragraph you wrote? What is your point? You got seduced and you regret it? Is there a problem here and you regret it? Game is a bad, bad thing?

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

Winfield – “I think game is all an elaborate illusion that everyone has capitalized on for c-nt, and it relies on the ignorance of females.”

Translation: game works and it upsets the delicate balance of power achieved by the FI.

jacklabear
6 years ago

Wingfield wrote:

“A very deadly, dread-infused one, and he worked me hard with it.

And it made me nuts–beyond–this game he played with me–super dread and hard.”

What do you mean by ‘dread’ Wingfield?

Wingfield
Wingfield
6 years ago

@ sjfrellc I regret it for the pain it caused me. It took all of my energy, and I’m strong. I can’t imagine someone with less emotional resources dealing with it. It was so painful, and so prolonged. I was just ignorant. I couldn’t see that I was blind? Just because you CAN do something and you WANT to, doesn’t mean you SHOULD. Luckily I escaped the illusion. The trap was this: my own weak morality. Life is hard. We have to birth ourselves over and over into awareness. I had to learn the hard way. I’m grateful to have… Read more »

Wingfield
Wingfield
6 years ago

@jacklabear I’ll give you no answer to your question. Nothing further

Mr T.
Mr T.
6 years ago

Game preys on the ignorance of females!!
It’s time to go on the Oprah Winfrey show.

Without game males become the easier prey and get eaten and digested and flushed down in a subway toilet and your hypergamy can find another married alpha to birth new learning about the new you.

jacklabear
6 years ago

@ Wingfield “It took all of my energy, and I’m strong. I can’t imagine someone with less emotional resources dealing with it. It was so painful, and so prolonged.” That’s really terrible Wingfield. Tell me, how did he do that? What did he tell you that held you in his clutches for two long torturous years? How is it possible for this monster to completely ruin a strong, moral, self aware and enlightened woman who knows about self-birthing? I hope you can tell us so that other females have a chance to escape your fate. You have a moral duty… Read more »

Wingfield
Wingfield
6 years ago

I repeat: I was ignorant. I had weak moral character. I made bad decisions. Again. I think I’ve been clear. It was painful. Game relied on me to be this way. If I had been stronger and smarter, it wouldn’t have worked. See *rejection* and then look upon your own rationalizing.

jacklabear
6 years ago

Rationalizing? I didn’t realize that I was rationalizing.
I really would like to be as self aware as you. As a woman, there are things you can teach me about being emotionally aware of my own self.
Could you please help me to understand this rationalizing so that I can avoid it in the future?

Wingfield
Wingfield
6 years ago

@jaclabear No. I’m rejecting you. 🙂 Goodnight

jacklabear
6 years ago

Wingfield, now you’re just being mean. I have feelings too.
How can you so cruelly reject me after what you have been through?
Are you going to be trying to get revenge on men for the rest of your life?

There are other women who can teach you not to end up like a helpless mouse devoured by the wolf,

See: http://womeninpowerprogram.com/

Wingfield
Wingfield
6 years ago

Bombs away, gentlemen 😉

jacklabear
6 years ago

You’re hoping for a mass white-knighting here?

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

I think I know what Wingfield is whining about running in to… http://therationalmale.com/2014/09/15/alpha-agents-of-righteous-karma/ Problem is that I have trouble giving a fuck. You thought you had found something good you could drag away from a marriage and keep, but polygyny ain’t hypergamy. You got pretty much what I would figure you would get from a natural alpha: none of the commitment you seek. His strategy worked, yours didn’t. I don’t feel like an “Alpha Widow” You are. You came here and wrote babbling paragraph about him because he’s still on your mind. He always will be. You’ll always compare every… Read more »

Mr T.
Mr T.
6 years ago

Here is my take on Wingfield. Off topic here, a little. Apologies. Just wanted to make an appearance and say a few words. I’m female. I had an interaction ((an affair))with a high status “Alpha” male. He had all the things in place to be a “natural”–beautiful, built, brilliant, ((I’m still in love with hin))tortured, and also knew game. A very deadly, dread-infused one, and he worked me hard with it. He used it very skillfully and it all worked seamlessly,((he knew how to get my tingles)) just as all accounts say, and it was fascinating to watch myself succumb,… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

Winfield has encountered a man who played by the second set of books, as should we all. But it’s important to note that the amorality of the second set of books has moral consequences. In this case Wingfield pursued, at least passively, a married man. She played her role and is discomfited to discover that the role of “other woman” wasn’t a desirable identity for her at least retrospectively. Note how her introspection stops at recognizing her own moral weakness which is then cast a being victimized by the “illusion” of game. Actually the “illusion” she was blinded by was… Read more »

jacklebear
jacklebear
6 years ago

With all due respect for the RP insights offered by you men, my take on Wingfield is that the story was an absurd piece of horseshit that HerHimIt was using to play the sympathy/pity/shaming card in order to manipulate some men into not using game and to portray those who do as scum men who just take advantage of retarded weak naive women. My first questions were calling himherit out on apparent bullshit of the story, and sure enough, herhimit didn’t answer them and tried to shut me down. My last post to herhimit, and actually all of them were… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

@ Jacklabear I admit to being easily duped. But I think this story may be real. It has all the hallmarks of a genuine men-evil-because-Me-stupid tale even with the moral depravity, and faux introspection. The rest of your analysis seems spot on. But the story also seems typical bordering on cliche, as does her exchange with you. Predictable and expected, a good example for future reference. Kudos to you for bringing those elements out. I am both puzzled, amused by Wingfield telling us that game works, and that we shoudn’t use it. I guess Stevie was right, women are fucking… Read more »

jacklebear
jacklebear
6 years ago

I thought to myself how can a married man possibly use ‘hard dread’ for two years over the internet when they only met twice and fucked once. Maybe the latter happened because she is low SMV and that is why she would cling to a thread for two years.

But then maybe Wingfield was not using the term in the RP definition. She meant that she felt anxiety.

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
6 years ago

Wingfield tried to top from the bottom it did not work.

WAAF (hint third letter is Awesome).

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

he was “beautiful, built, brilliant, tortured, and also knew game” and in two years only fucked an “inferior version” of her once. The RSD boys have to give free lectures on this 1 Shades game, at least until countries stop them.

WOMEN ARE FUCKING AWESOME

however when AWESOME only fucks them once, they still don’t want to go back to fucking less than awesome

Glenn
Glenn
6 years ago

@ Chokemah/Stevie – Delusions of grandeur much? It’s hysterical watching you preen about your self-anointed importance here, as though you are “somebody”. Here’s wake up call, fucknutz. If you were on fire, I wouldn’t piss on you to put it out. Share your ideas here and men here will deal with them as we see fit. If you don’t like being outed as a sockpuppet account using bitch, don’t use sockpuppet accounts. Go fuck yourself. And in case you don’t see it, your ideas are dogshit compared the the brilliance Rollo shares here. You aren’t even in the same intellectual… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
6 years ago

As for the entire subject here, there has been so much said that I agree with, I have only one unique view to offer. How does this inform how I behave? I’ve pointed out the juxtaposition of 50 Shades of Grey and the rape hysteria being peddled by radical feminists to women, and have gotten nowhere. What most men don’t want to realize is that we’ve already lost the battle. Women are running the board now, consolidating their gains socially and men are on defense. You can alpha up all you want – you are going to be shamed for… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
6 years ago

@ Wingfield – Lol. Working some chick for two years online to get laid once? That’s not game, that’s idiocy. You are funny though. Why can’t you see that he’s exactly what you actually want? A man who will make you want him, a man that doesn’t cater to you or any woman. Admit it, you think it’s hot that that he was married because it made him seem higher value to you. And that if he was willing to “risk it all” with you, that must mean he feels something really special for you. Get it. You were shown… Read more »

jacklebear
jacklebear
6 years ago

Glenn,

Enjoy what freedom you have left because it’s just a matter of time til like in Sweden, this last male space is banned as hate speech, the iron fist of the state forces us to piss sitting down and de facto marrying these women who can no longer get men on their own merits.

Maybe evangelizing RP has limited value, but anti-feminism deserves our energies.

jacklebear
jacklebear
6 years ago

The Wingfield story might also have been intended as a goof on the idea that Game is magical mystical omnipotent to reduce *every* woman to a quivering puppet every time.
No heresy intended.

Not Born This Morning
Not Born This Morning
6 years ago

Fifty Shades of Shit…

The director is a 47 year old female married to a much younger actor.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Taylor-Johnson

Notice the “I dare you to fuck with me I’m super bitch” look on her face? Her first name is a male first name. She is one hell of a rough looking scarecrow.

This movie is NOT about male dominance and women’s yearning for it. This movie is undoubtedly the most castrating crap Hollywood has ever devised to stifle real human masculinity as never before.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Not Born

It was originally a fanfic of Twilight. The fanfic community is a largely female community so notorious for female wish fulfillment to a ridiculous level that even women have trouble taking it seriously some times.

Really nothing about it surprises me at all.

And as for that director, I wouldn’t fuck her with Stevelise’s dick. What a torn up looking old hag.

jacklebear
jacklebear
6 years ago

She has big tits but her upper arms are fucked up.
A woman’s arms are a good reflection of the rest of her.

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447
447
6 years ago

“The Wingfield story might also have been intended as a goof on the idea that Game is magical mystical omnipotent to reduce *every* woman to a quivering puppet every time. No heresy intended.” Perhaps. As I love double Irony, I cannot but notice that this goof just shows the truth more clearly. Because IF it is a goof, it so closly resembles social reality, that it one can not see any difference. As there are (relativly, from the individual perspective) nearly unending masses of women out there (even when applying some standarts; city enviroment) – game would be just as… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
6 years ago

@ jacklebear – Perhaps I haven’t been clear. I’m ready for revolution, AR-15 and all. If I thought there was one that had a chance of taking down this rotten govt and the scumbags who run it, I’d be out in the streets with them. I realize the hate speech stuff is coming, but ask yourself this. Why shouldn’t this happen to us? Why shouldn’t I live in a society in decline? All great societies fall apart and usually destroy themselves. These meta dynamics are much bigger than any one of us and the endgame is inevitable now. I’ve mentioned… Read more »

Jeremy
6 years ago

@Wingfield Game preys on the ignorance of females This is not stated correctly. Game preys on the ignorance-of-self that exists in females in incalculably huge amounts because modern women have abandoned their duty to optimize their own hypergamy. Until you understand yourself, you’re a child. Since most women spend darn near zero time trying to actually understanding their own motivations and the sources of them… they abdicate the responsibility to solve their own needs. They expect men to solve their dualistic sexual strategy needs by being both a perfect natural alpha, and a wealthy beta provider (two things that cannot… Read more »

jacklabear
6 years ago

Jeremy, +1

Glenn, I take that optimistically. Your scenario may well play out before we end up like Sweden.

Bromeo
Bromeo
6 years ago

@Rollo “Hypergamy doesn’t care what your skin pigmentation is. In a feminine-primary social order of maximally restricted male sexuality and maximally unrestricted female Hypergamy that maximally provides for the long term security side of that Hypergamy, women are going to go (and fuck) where the Alphas are.” I agree, hypergamy doesn’t care about skin color, the biggest key here is factoring in the cultural and religious constraints on hypergamy. I know for a fact in the east Indian community, marriage is still very well sacred and having a divorce causes shame not only to the females family but to their… Read more »

jacklabear
6 years ago

Hypergamy doesn’t care about culture.

How One Woman Is Standing Up for India’s Abused Husbands

Women in India are reverse-engineering a law meant to protect them in order to wrongly attack their husbands and in-laws—putting their partners in the slammer. One woman is standing up for the men.

http://www.vocativ.com/world/india/one-woman-standing-indias-abused-husbands/

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Glenn

I’ve mentioned it before, but really, now the die is cast. We are over 18 trillion in federal debt.

Let’s not forget to mention the off-the-books estimate of 300-400 trillion in CDO/CDS sitting out there waiting to go off like a time bomb again. The first world economy is functionally bankrupt and nothing has been done to fix it.

Bluepillprofessor
Bluepillprofessor
6 years ago

@Steven and sockpuppets: “Again, I consciously sockpuppet for reasons far larger than you.” LMFAO. Now I know this is a woman. Let me guess a bored housewife with way to much time on her hands who has defeated (or divorced) her husband and is living in sexless marriage. That explains everything. @Winfield: You were NOT “weak.” You were a woman. This is not a bug in the programming- it IS the program. Game doesn’t exploit a weird bug or defect and it is not just ‘weak women’ who succumb. Weak, strong, smart, dumb, game aware or never heard of the… Read more »

Arnold S.
Arnold S.
6 years ago

Angelina Jolie: It Took Me Time to Find a Real Man

http://www.people.com/article/angelina-jolie-real-man-brad-pitt?xid=rss-fullcontent

This article has it all, the female determination on what defines a ‘real man’, the AFBB dynamic and the epiphany phase. Some choice parts:

“At 20, we’re all looking for Prince Charming, the big handsome hunk, only we’re generally disappointed because of his instability,” the actress tells France’s Dandy magazine. “At 40, you know what you want: a real man.”

Arnold S.
Arnold S.
6 years ago

I know its not related to the articles main theme but I couldn’t resist.

jacklabear
6 years ago

” “Being in the spotlight’s shine doesn’t interest me”

Seeing as what her arms look like, I would call this hamstering.

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
6 years ago

The Jezebel article was TL;DR for me. I still got to go through the 22nd edit of my father’s eulogy for his funeral tomorrow. One of the girls at my wife’s employment was nice enough to take her shift on V-Day. What did the hamsters say about the audience? I wouldn’t go throwing haymakers at the producer. She seems to be quite the hypergamous snowflake in a good sort of way. Her story is way to long. I’d caution comments about the boobs and the weight–not fun to poke a stick at a two time cancer survivor. (Heads up: In… Read more »

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
6 years ago

“World War II started because a young German boy was denied the carnal knowledge of a young German girl. “ Bollocks he had some kind of brain injury either from his everlovin’ papa, or the trenches. Christ my old English master had one (ex-WW2 fighter pilot, steel plate in skull, also glycol lungs, smoked like a lord’s bastard regardless, in class! We had to climb up and haul the buggered 100-y-o sash windows open for him.) He (Mr. B-B) was a lovely fellow. Except .. when he wasn’t. (Psycho, had to get the rugby coach and a couple of other… Read more »

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
6 years ago

Choke mah
“Again, I consciously sockpuppet for reasons far larger than you. I ALWAYS make it clear who is speaking—to humans, NOT to algorithms. I do that with extreme intent.”
Fu-uuuu—uck. OK now I got it.

Remember kids, just say No.

Driver
Driver
6 years ago

Just an FYI. I was over at HUS (your favorite girl, Rollo – Susan) and I left a comment with regards to a post on the release of 50 Shades of Grey. My comment, more or less, questioned (or stated) that the media (as well as feminists) should call out this movie (and women) for wanting to see it. It’s similar to all of the years of shaming that the media (and women) have done to men for finding women sexy, porn, etc…(pretty much anything masculine). Remember, it’s all about ‘equality’, people. I found out a day later that my… Read more »

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[…] This view lies at the heart of the “victim mentality” that underscores modern Feminism and Progressivism, i.e. “playing the victim”. But make no mistake, it is in reality a cleverly disguised play for power. Turning their “position of weakness” into strength, into control. A corrupted form of power. But power nonetheless. And such power – unconstrained, unchecked – leads to tyrannical behavior, morphing into a method to control without seeming to be in control. […]

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