The Future Shock

When something big in the news goes down I’ve learned from experience not to be too quick to write anything about it until the hype dies down and more information comes out. My long-time readers know what I’m talking about. In the early days of this blog I could get caught up in a story about how a guy got Zeroed Out and committed suicide or killed his family and himself, and people would run me up the flagpole for jumping to conclusions. That those conclusions were, in fact, accurate was irrelevant to critics. It was all about ‘hasty generalizations‘ and confirmation biases at the time of writing.

This new Corona Virus pandemic is something different though. There are a lot of people very eager to jump to those hasty generalizations in this global crisis – and pointing out their panic only makes them feel more justified in panicking. At the time of this writing we’re seeing a globalized response to a globalized virus. For all or our new order information, technology, access and connectivity the same old order human nature remain the same. Odd that the people who’ve criticized me for being too mechanistic about our evolved nature are the same people who are in a righteous panic caused by the nature I’ve been told we’re supposed to be evolved above now.

But today, instead of a localized panic, we get a global panic. Instead of localized disinformation, we have globalized disinformation.

“In the social media age, people have forgotten that it’s not remotely normal to be able to see hundreds of millions of people’s opinions & actions, let alone engage with them.

We’re living in the biggest experiment in human history and have little idea of the long term consequences.”

Zuby

Ironically, Zuby tweeted this quote about a week before the Corona Virus really became what it is now (late March, 2020). At the time I though it captured what was going on in our Global Sexual Marketplace so I saved the quote, but it’s true about a lot of new order areas of our modern globalized lives. And that includes global pandemics too.

I wrote about old order versus new order thinking a few months ago. This essay, The New Age of Enlightenment, is actually an excerpt from my upcoming fourth book in the Rational Male series and is a theme I carry through much of it. At the time of my writing it I had come to much of the same thinking as Zuby had here: it’s time we re-envision what a rapidly advancing global society looks like. My take began in the global sexual marketplace, but it’s expanded to many other areas of life. It’s a challenge to humanity to be sure. Reassessing what was old order wisdom worth preserving and abandoning what was simply inaccurate (or deliberately distorted) in the age of new order information and communication is something most people are unprepared for. Most people are too comfortable in the lives they built for themselves based on the foundation of old order ideals.

The Virus pandemic is proving this to us in real time and online 24 hours a day now. Faced with the rapid, systemic shutdown of every major economy on the planet, the global community now reverts to its very human, very predictable nature. The response to real, existential crisis is what defines the person, and what defines their ego-invested belief-sets – except everything is intensified.

Here’s what I’m seeing happen.

Believers’ Confirmation

Doomsday preppers rejoice. Christians, Catholics, [insert Millenarian Dominionist religion] all love and hate this crisis simultaneously. It both proves God’s love and God’s wrath in the same breath. And as I’ve expounded upon in the fourth book, there’s simply no arguing with people who have no questions. Don’t take this as a flame on believers – I get why they find comfort in it – it’s a simple observation of how crisis situations bring out what truly motivates people in a way we only rarely see.

Even the woo woo magical thinkers find a common confirmation of their spiritual-but-not-religious beliefs. They all told you so. They all knew it was coming. The tea leaves and energy ‘vibrations’ have all been off for months. If only we’d sent enough positive Juju out into the universe the Law of Attraction would have prevented all this! Likewise, they’re all equally unprepared for it. A reaffirmed faith (however they define it) will see them through. And maybe that’s a good attitude to have when panic and fear are the hot new commodities to sell on the worldwide stage (I’ll get to that in a moment).

Uncertainty is difficult for people, but there’s a lot of comfort in finding confirmation of beliefs in crisis and tragedy. And that belief doesn’t necessarily have to be religious. Political wonks are equally zealots now. This pandemic will define presidencies and, going forward, will likely determine the platforms of future world leaders for some time.

Never let a good crisis go to waste” – especially in an age when the majority of the worlds’ people literally cannot escape seeing it in real time. For the political ideologist, on either side of the spectrum, how this pandemic is being handled by officials, and the prophecies of inevitable economic ruin, is just as belief-affirming as religious confirmations.

For the Left, this is the event they’ve always waited for to bring down a president who’s been effectively invincible since the Primaries of 2015. To use their own words, they can “finally get the motherfucker.” That it took a global pandemic is irrelevant. For the Right, it’s an illustration of how life will look under the fantasy Socialist tyranny they see in the Left. The wholesale closing of abortion clinics is an added bonus. In our own sphere, for MGTOW it’s the sweet humbling of women’s egos as, from all appearances, women turn to a new appreciation of conventionally masculine men and ape the mannerisms of traditional femininity – for now. For the Trad-Con sunhat ladies this feminist pivot is, again, reaffirming. Gone, almost overnight, are the bleating of social justice warriors with all discussions of socially constructed gender norms. Noticeable in its absence is all talk of Women’s History Month (March) and the need for reparations in gender inequities. Hell, in Finland the all-female, all-feminist, government is glaringly impotent from all accounts I’ve read.

Most of this is what I’d expect from the average global citizen in the face of a world changing, relatively lethal, pandemic. However, it’s the new order Outrage Brokers and Success Porn Hustlahs scrambling to place their bets on the next 9 months who are truly a wonder to behold now.

Outrage Brokers in the Apocalypse

Amongst all of this pandemic gnashing of teeth we get the inevitable grifters. If we’re honest, we knew most of these guys were leeches when times were good. Certainly not all of them, but the temptation of quitting an old order day job for the promise of a new order monthly direct deposit from Google for playing ‘life coach’ on a webcam was a dream come true for most. Now their true natures rise to the surface as they see the chuckwagon of the gig economy pulling away. And just like rats going through an Extinction Burst they frantically try every new angle that they might profit from.

These are the war profiteers of this new order era, but the pitch is the same as it was in the past – stoke fear, sell security.

It almost seems quaint that I brought up this exact formula as discussion topic on Rule Zero just 2 weeks ago. We were illustrating how the term Red Pill (and now MGTOW) has been coopted as a branding opportunity by “coaches” and “relationship experts” with very little experience beyond what they can glean from others in the sphere. The main point was this: it’s far easier to get views and build subscriber bases in next to no time when your material is all red meat outrage for ‘underserved’ Average Frustrated Chumps. Toss out a few “red pills”, paint a few of them black, and commiserate with the average 80-percenter guy’s reality with women, gynocentrism and then play on the same indignation porn that the mainstream has been selling to women for 3 decades now. All sizzle, no steak. Is it any wonder that critics think the Red Pill is populated with nihilistic, homicidal Incels?

But that’s the formula. It just took men longer to perfect it for a fresh generation of male consumers. Indignation might be an innate female need, but the past 3 generations of men have developed a taste for it as well. It’s what happens when boys are raised as defective girls.

It’s important to see this crisis through the emotional lens that the past 4 generations of men and women have been taught to prioritize. For over 50 years now we’ve been conditioned to see the female, emotions-first, experience as the correct interpretation of every facet of a globalizing society. This pandemic is no exception.

Because of their emotions-first nature fear is easy to sell to women. Women’s innate need for security is what made them the primary consumer in western societies, but now we have at least 2 generations of men who were educated to be defective women. ThoseVillage-educated emotions-first men are susceptible to the same sales formulas now. Feels before Reals isn’t just for women, and this pandemic crisis is proving it in spades.

The savvy hucksters know this. The not so savvy ones will attempt to go back to whatever cubicle job they think still exists for them before they quit their day jobs. But the career Outrage Brokers are already profiteering from that formula; feed the fear, sell security.

You know the names. Watch them. You’ll need to remember their nature when things shake out.

Zeroed Out

What even the best Red Pill rage-bait “entrepreneur” knows is that the vast majority of his/her soon-to-be-former supporters will be Zeroed Out in the coming months. There is no going back to what we thought of as normal. Even if we recover back to a comfortable normalcy fairly quickly this experience changes things. The game has changed, all games have changed, and the uncertainty of the basics will replace the leisure of having the personal concerns we used to entertain before the virus hit.

A lot of good men will be Zeroed Out in the wake of this crisis.

I think it ought to be part of any Red Pill aware man’s understanding that at many points in our lives we will be confronted with the prospects of having to rebuild ourselves. Failure, rejection and disappointment will happen for you, that’s just part of a man’s life, and it’s easy to rattle off platitudes about how many times you get back up being the measure of a man. But what I’m saying is there will be times when total reconstruction of your life will be a necessity.

You will be zeroed out at some point, and how you handle this is a much different situation than any temporary setback. This zeroing out is made all the more difficult when you confront the fact that what you believed to be so valuable, the equity you were told was what others would measure you by, was all part of your Blue Pill conditioning. At that point you need to understand that there is most definitely a hope for a better remake of yourself based on truths that were learned in the hardest way.

The red meat is still there. The chemical rush that comes from indignation-without-solution will always satisfy in the short term, but now it will be a reminder of what people had a luxury to pursue before all this shit went down. Grifters and Outrage Brokers know this. Zealots and Shamans know this. Black Pills, God-Pills, MGTOW and every Red Pill rebrand knows this. And the old order thinkers who were comfortable and self-righteous in the certainty of a condition that couldn’t ever end for them will all say they saw this coming while they shit their pants looking for a way to sustain themselves. The red meat is all that’s left for them, and they’ll climb over themselves to be the source of it.

I’m not throwing all this out there to freak anyone out. Freaking out is the reflexive response I’ve been seeing for 2 weeks now. It’s more infectious than the actual virus. I’m simply trying to put this crisis into rational, masculine perspective. That requires observation.

Yes, women are going to revert to their survival instincts; observe it, catalog it, use it to confirm what the Red Pill has been proposing for 20 years now.

Yes, lesser men will panic and expect you to panic along with them. Their imaginings and superstitions are a source of dopamine for them. Learn from their real nature.

Yes, the Outrage Brokers will all feed you fear and sell you product to allay that fear. They’ll all have a nootropic pill to cure Covid soon. Make a note of who they are.

And yes, you will likely be Zeroed Out in some manner in the coming year. Take comfort in knowing you’re definitely not alone. You, me, everyone will need to rebuild ourselves to some degree soon. Start analyzing you strengths, pay attention to what’s going on around you. You must be agile like never before. Many different aspects of Red Pill awareness will be confirmed for you, a lot probably have been already, learn from these confirmations. This is the Future Shock. Now is not the time to flounder in despair. Look for the opportunities.

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Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
1 month ago

Even her? I think it was Black Dragon that came up with categorizing men that needed Sexual Newness (need of different sexual acts to get off) and Sexual Variety (need different women to get off) (of course there’s the ones that are ‘normal’ and will be satisfied with doing the same thing with the same girl forever). In my 28 year ltr I suffered from the sexual variety syndrome. Heck even with my HB9 black 20yo SB I suffered from sexual newness and variety after 3 years. I’d sneak in others on occasion and could pop inside of 3 minutes… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

“If you or someone you know is suffering from SVS, call the number on the screen now. Help is a phone call away…

We can beat this silent killer”
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theasdgamer
1 month ago

Letter from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons to President Trump…

FDA is an obstacle to developing new drugs and to using existing drugs for a new application…

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15TwCtLCyP8ptFlQAK_0N_gxINUOHbHxn/view

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Why is the UK’s mortality rate so high? It’s in the top five with Italy and Spain? What’s going on?

Blaximus
1 month ago

Virus.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

virus

lmfao… ASD is like a small child, pat on the head. Get out of here you rascal… lolzlolzolz

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Laugh it up. For covid19, UK has triple the mortality of the U.S. Why triple? Why so high in U.K.? In the U.S., CDC and NIH and the governors are inhibiting care, but docs figure out ways around them. For example, some govs dictate that hydroxychloroquine can only be given to hospitalized patients, but patients need to be treated early. So docs are hospitalizing patients just so that they can prescribe HCQ. Unnecessary hospitalizations and beds are being used that shouldn’t be. Snopes did a hit piece on Zelenko’s work. Snopes said that it lacked evidence because it wasn’t a… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

I should have said “mortality rate“, not just “mortality”.

HF
HF
1 month ago

@ASD:

In the UK they do very little testing. Half as much as the US, and the quarter of what German does (per capita). But the critical ones still end up in the ICU. So probably they have much more infected, just don’t know about it (which would mean a lower mortality rate).

But it is just a flu isn’t it? Or did your views changed over time?

Blaximus
1 month ago

😂 asd has a view change depending on what he reads or watches. Not what he experiences. So yeah, he gets very confused and sidetracked. Squirrel!!!!!!! Now he’s switched gears into finding people to blame. Asd, too bad you can’t come here and spend some time in the emergency rooms ALL OVER ( not just urban areas). Best to you wherever you are because viruses don’t respect ” states ” or ” borders “, and as we’re seeing, nobody is immune ( except possibly those who’ve beaten the virus already). You don’t have to be in London or NYC or… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

@HF covid19 is obviously a lot more infectious than the flu. At this point we’re uncertain about the primary mode of spread. Covid19 is a lot less dangerous than the flu to the young (155 pediatric deaths from the flu in the U.S. vs. 0 from covid19 this flu season). It’s true that UK does less testing, even on a per capita basis, than the U.S. The U.S. is catching up with South Korea on a per capita basis. Like Palma said, the death rate from covid19 in the UK may be higher than the official count in NHS. We’re… Read more »

Blaximus
1 month ago

A round of applause for wor!d renown virologist and crime statistician, ASD!!!!!!

👏

SJF
SJF
1 month ago

*”Snopes did a hit piece on Zelenko’s work. Snopes said that it lacked evidence because it wasn’t a controlled clinical trial.”* The Zelenko reports are truly weird. And not that hydroxychloroquine doesn’t help. He reported treating 350, 500, >700 hundred patients in the span of one to two weeks. He said in his video interview with Giuliani that he didn’t see patients in person, but by telemedicine/teleconference. That doesn’t figure. He was probably sending in scripts to pharmacies for the patients. Without patients having any way to get a screening test for Covid. And who may be just getting it… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

I love you too, Blax. Throw me down some peanuts, will ya? 🙂 I’m not a physician nor do I play one on teevee. Critical thinking skill is more essential in a crisis than is intelligence. I noticed that Dr. Zelenko has superb critical thinking skills as well as native intelligence. Unfortunately, critical thinking skills aren’t very common. I can do deep dives into technical literature and my critical thinking skills aren’t one of my shortcomings. Your strength is your ability to draw on your experience. It’s also your greatest weakness. You have trouble drawing on the experience of other… Read more »

SJF
SJF
1 month ago

“HCQ can affect vision I’m told.” That is only after taking it for 5 to 7 years at a dose of 200mg twice per day. And then the incidence is only up to 2%. It’s low risk to cause retinopathy when taken for up to 10 years. There is virtually no vision risk taking it for a short period of time. And Gov. Cuomo kinda, mostly banned it from being prescribed outside of the hospital system. New York: Executive Order from Gov. Andrew Cuomo restricting dispensing: • Bans pharmacists from dispensing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except: o When written as prescribed… Read more »

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
1 month ago

Good to see Rollo turn his attention to WuFlu World — his “zeroed out” column was one of his best and here indeed comes a plague of zeroes. Fortunately I can lay low for now in my semi-rural backwater, and the old lady is admirably low-drama.

Blaximus
1 month ago

Hydro is not ” banned “.

Cuomo asks that a positive corona test be required before a prescription is written and filled.

That’s not ” banning “.

If no requirement made, people will drain the supply taking hydro because scared, whether they are positive/sick or not. That’s the nature of things.

Hydro would become the New Toilet Paper.

If you’re sick with corona, and your doc confirms and writed the script, you can get it.

theasdgamer
1 month ago

@SJF I’m not a doctor nor do I play one on teevee. Excellent questions. Remote medicine/numbers? It’s out of the ordinary. Hard to visualize, but I will try. Zelenko has an office and office staff to see the patients. Patients go to Zelenko’s office and are seen by staff. His nurses take history and vitals. Screens and cameras are set up in patient examining rooms so Dr. Zelenko can examine patients remotely. He takes a history and can examine charts in advance. The nurses adjust the cameras if Zelenko needs close inspection of anatomy or maybe telemedicine has advanced to… Read more »

SJF
SJF
1 month ago

ASD

Thumbs up for the explanation.

theasdgamer
1 month ago

“Some COVID-19 test results taking nearly two weeks to come back” https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/results-of-covid-19-tests-take-nearly-two-weeks-to-come-back/285-dd0b67a5-4a43-4235-87f6-5c95bb2d5467 Not sure of the testing turnaround time in NY. No current search results. Lab covid19 test processing centers are being swamped, so test results are dilatory, so docs can’t treat patients early if they rely on tests. Docs and pharmacies have to ignore the governor and his idiot health care advisers. Docs are hospitalizing patients to work around the governor’s edict. Get the prescription filled and send the test for processing and give the pharmacy the test result later so that paperwork is complete. Trust between doc and… Read more »

Blaximus
1 month ago

it would be very helpful to your understanding if you actually lived here and saw what was going on. Cuomo gives updates daily, as does new jersey governor.

What website is that you’re quoting anyway????

jesus…

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/long-island-urgent-cares-offer-test-that-can-detect-coronavirus-in-5-minutes/2354707/

The delays are caused by the labs slower processing. The usual wait was 5 days, not 2 weeks ( hype ), but the faster tests are being deployed/used as I type this.

Misinformation is a terrible thing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187883/Fox-News-sued-willfully-maliciously-deceiving-public-dangers-coronavirus.html

…. go maga

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Lol @Blax You should go to Houston and observe the turnaround time there. In Memphis, there is a drive by testing place, but it’s only open during the work week. Where I live, the test’s only available at hospitals. Even 5 days delay is too long for coronavirus testing. You need 2 days max for it to be useful. Give details, man. Is the test available to anybody in a drive in situation? Or is it only for hospitals? Doctor’s order required? What’s the wait time in the line, if there is a line? Did you try it out yourself?… Read more »

Wildside
1 month ago
Reply to  theasdgamer

@asd. The general population are bell ends. They get told to stay indoors and work from home and yet the train platforms and trains are rammed. It also doesn’t help the trains are running a limited service. Also Boris and the government left it far too late before implementing social distancing and when he did, over night, people did not listen and to an extent still aren’t. Another point is as late as 20 March sporting events and other large public gatherings where still going on. Liverpool played Atletico Madrid on the 15th and they let 2000 Spanish supporters fly… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

earth to @Blax

Fox News was being attacked early on for pushing the pandemic and drive by media was saying that coronavirus is no big deal. Libs attacking Fox News. Shock!

(the libs will lose the lawsuit on the merits)

Blaximus
1 month ago

asd

plenty of information available, as we are #1 and #2 in cases and deaths in the nation….so far.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html

c’mon man

Blaximus
1 month ago

asd

remember when I told you I watched fox with my own eyes?

You can’t spin this to me, because I WATCHED THE WORDS COMING OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS, and you pretty much echoed what they were saying almost word for word.

Lol, there are witnesses right here at trm.

Blaximus
1 month ago

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/apr/05/boris-johnson-admitted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus

it’s just a flu……

Get Boris some zinc STAT!!!!!

theasdgamer
1 month ago

@Blax, I watched Tucker Carlson on Fox News pushing Coronavirus Derangement Syndrome back in January. With my own eyes and ears. Host: “You’re getting a lot of attention because you’re really the first opinion host of Fox News to say, “Hey, this is not a hoax, it’s time to take this seriously.” Were you concerned about some of the things you were hearing on your own network such as that this was not that serious? Carlson: “I’m not much of a TV watcher, so I wasn’t responding to that so much as I was responding to the internal voice I… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

It’s undeniable that there are massive geopolitical aspects to this virus. When I hear CNN openly questioning current Chinese numbers, well that’ll be the day…

This Shiva guy has some very interesting points on China, pharma and the NGO links.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=2Psbv9xqI_M

Wildside
1 month ago

@Palma. Thanks for the info. It certainly is a shit show. Boris is even threatening not being allowed for exercise. Last time I was outdoors was last Thursday. A shopping trip. I workout indoors. It’s not bothering me that much. I like my own company.

Also, you managed to get an ice cream 🙂

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

Point – comment on YT:

Everybody stay home. You don’t need to go out, you can have everything you need delivered.

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

Counterpoint – Conversation I had with a Domino’s delivery guy while taking a walk around the block:

Me: How you holding up being everybody’s lifeline?
Him: I’m just glad I’m still working, ya know?

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

This Shiva is terrible to follow… scare tactic vs scare tactic… agenda vs agenda…

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

scare tactic vs scare tactic… agenda vs agenda…

Sounds like war to me…
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Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

kfg quoting YT
You don’t need to go out, you can have everything you need delivered.

Including Corona Chan!
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Blaximus
1 month ago

Okay, I’ve had enough for one day –

https://abc7ny.com/coronavirus-nyc-news-updates-new-york/6079276/

…. motherfucker

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

“Including Corona Chan!”

Not if everybody is staying home. The commenter seemed clueless that if everyone stayed home you couldn’t get anything delivered. And in not too long you couldn’t wash your hands, or turn on the lights, or . . .

theasdgamer
1 month ago

“The Department of Health and Human Services said Sunday hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine products can be distributed and prescribed by doctors through the Strategic National Stockpile “to hospitalized teen and adult patients with COVID-19, as appropriate, when a clinical trial is not available or feasible.””

We’re the government and we’re here to help you…get medicine you need…but you can’t have it unless you go to the hospital…

…in other news, government models showed that hospitalization should be 4x what it currently is…

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

kfg
Not if everybody is staying home. The commenter seemed clueless that if everyone stayed home you couldn’t get anything delivered.

It’s a pretty big leap from talking to your pizza guy to “everyone stays home”. Hope you did a good stretching routine on your hamstrings before that.

And in not too long you couldn’t wash your hands, or turn on the lights, or . . .

Fortunately utility managers aren’t that stupid.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lights-covid19-emergency-power-company-workers-sequester-office/story?id=69934136

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Me: How you holding up being everybody’s lifeline? At an airboard boarding gate in the distant future: Announcer (voice): “OK folk, we are about to begin boarding for Flight 1986 non-stop service to Los Angeles. At this time – if you are an active delivery service driver, or have a campaign medal from The Great Corona War, please make your way to the agent for priority boarding. Thank you for your service!” [crowd claps as heroes process to gate. A little girl stops to look up at a late middle aged man, wearing a trucker cap with a patch that… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Community spread… postal workers deliverymen long haul truckers airline workers rental places (cars, Home Depot) hotels, hotel workers, hotel hvac systems, apartment hallways where fans bring in air restaurant food grocery stockers grocery carts where they don’t wipe people who don’t wash hands a lot None of this matters if docs just keep up with effective treatment…gateway pundit gave space to Dr. Zelenko’s effective regimen, but a lot of docs are libs and stay in their echo chambers…won’t even hear of Zelenko’s results…Daughter Gamer hasn’t heard any docs discussing Zelenko’s regimen…doctors seem to not discuss medical topics much outside of… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

[Scene – exterior of stately home, night. Cut to intererior, drawing room, fire crackling. A young girl with curly hair and a tow headed boy sitting on the sofa, drinking cocoa. Grandma in her rocker, drinking chardonnay. Grandpa stoking fire.] Boy: We started learning about The Corona War in school. Grandpa, what did you do during it? Grandpa: Well well. [turns back to boy, comes and sits on sofa] Here. Sit on my lap and I’ll tell you. Girl: Tell us Gampa! Grandpa: Well it was a long time ago. back in 2020… I remember it well. We had been… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

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theasdgamer
1 month ago

Lol @ painting the target around the bullet holes…

“IHME Model Lowers U.S. Coronavirus Death Projections”

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

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theasdgamer
1 month ago

Confirmation of Dr. Zelenko’s regimen… “LOS ANGELES (KABC) — A Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19. Hydroxychloroquine has been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19 by President Trump among others, but it remains controversial as some experts believe it is unproven and may not be effective. The drug has long been used for treatment of malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis but is not technically approved by the FDA for COVID-19. The agency, however, is encouraging… Read more »

Wildside
1 month ago
Reply to  theasdgamer

There is something very funny going on here. The FDA and this Dr Fauci are just throwing up obstacles.

‘but the government’s top coronavirus expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has been much more cautious, saying there is only “anecdotal evidence” demonstrating its effectiveness’. 2 Doctors have reported, after giving the same treatment, positive results with very ill patients, with a drug that has been used since 1944. People are dying in their thousands. The UK prime minister is in a bad way. The FDA and Fauci, what is their agenda?

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Wild side

Some theories re agenda

https://www.straight.com/news/republican-senate-hopeful-shiva-ayyadurai-calls-for-firing-of-us-pandemic-control-czar-dr

This Shiva guy has some very interesting points on China, pharma and the NGO links.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=2Psbv9xqI_M

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

There is something funny going on here

“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” –

kfg
kfg
1 month ago
SJF
SJF
1 month ago

“The FDA and Fauci, what is their agenda?” It’s basically a balancing act –that he has learned during his long career– learned to be diplomatic about. He went through it with AIDs crisis in the 80’s. A lot of drugs were unproven and unavailable. Some didn’t work and some did. Early on the one that everyone crowed about didn’t work. False hope. In 1981, before the availability of any antiretroviral drugs, the median survival after an AIDS diagnosis was about six to eight months. (My first admission to the hospital as a medical resident had AIDs in 1986. And he… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

List of manufacturers:

“Plaquenil is a brand name of hydroxychloroquine, approved by the FDA in the following formulation(s):
PLAQUENIL (hydroxychloroquine sulfate – tablet;oral)”

https://www.drugs.com/availability/generic-plaquenil.html

SJF
SJF
1 month ago

A doctor has to Break Bad:

Gus Fring : And a man doctor, a man doctor provides hydroxychloroquine. And he does it even when he’s not appreciated, or respected, or even loved. He simply bears up and he does it. Because he’s a man doctor….

He has to sneak one through.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

File under Alpha’s Have Different Reference Experiences

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a31827643/hemingway-quarantine-wife-mistress

SJF
SJF
1 month ago

Not characteristic of me throwing chum in the red pill waters, but I found this a typical IDK conundrum some couple might find themselves in, Richard Cooper fodder: File this story in today’s news feed under: “Never mistake motion for action.”–Ernest Hemingway “I lost a few pounds…” I’m trying… should be sufficient… https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/04/boyfriend-sex-weight-gain-advice.html I have been with my boyfriend for about five years—he’s 12 years younger than me, but no one thinks I am as old as I am—and we are exact polar opposites of each other. I’m emotional and feeling; he’s not really emotional or feeling in the way… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

The Great Corona War

lol

Wildside
1 month ago
Reply to  IRL

Got my letter off Boris and 10 downing Street today, telling me to stay in doors. I’ll keep hold of that for 20 years and then sell it to the Pawn Stars as a piece of history.

theasdgamer
1 month ago

The U.S. is eighth in the world in deaths per million population. Fauci needs to try harder to get to #1.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

#Idontbelievechinanumbers

#blaxusesirrelevantstatistics (it’s a concept thing)

Blaximus
1 month ago

Give it a rest already.

If nobody is dying where you live, good for you.

12 people died here in my city overnight, so excuse me if I don’t pay a lot of attention to your ” stats “.

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Blax, don’t talk about numbers where you live. It leaves you more vulnerable to doxxing. You might wanna get that comment deleted.

theasdgamer
1 month ago

In my state, we had 0 deaths overnight. Differences in distribution. (btw, I’ve been pushing for HCQ to be released to hotspots like NY and NJ. Fauci finally got on board once Peter Navarro got confrontational with him.)

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

Moving upstate, Albany county had it’s first case on March, 3. No deaths for the first three weeks or so, but about one a day since then. There has also been an uptick in new cases, but that isn’t the interesting bit.

The interesting bit is that 90% of the new cases have been first responders (they might be counting all medical workers in that. Reporting has been getting sloppy with terms).

Blaximus
1 month ago

Asd 😂

I’ve been saying where I live for years here.

If anyone really wanted to ” doxx”/ find me, they could ( if they were into that kind of thing ). I don’t have social media accounts, but I’m all over a few of them posted by others, and I’m even on a couple of YouTube channels.

You haven’t paid attention. I’m surprised….not.

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Lol, you were the one making a big deal that the U.S. leads the world in deaths (which isn’t true–China is actually #1). The point is that we are actually handling the covid19 epidemic better than Europe, generally speaking. (Germany may be doing a better job.) Measured on a per capita basis, the U.S. is doing quite a good job. (Some places weren’t as well prepared as others, but we managed our resources well and the lack was covered.) If we had not exported our pharmaceutical industry to China, we would be doing even better. Once we get an adequate… Read more »

Blaximus
1 month ago

Autos and planes???

😂😂

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

You can compare New York or South Dakota, individual states, to Spain or Germany, likewise individual states, but you have to compare the USA to the EU.

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

@Palma Sailor:

That’s the point. Invert the chart to show the risk to the general public who don’t do any of those things.

Blaximus
1 month ago

Palma, Kfg My understanding is that in the emergency room and in icu’s it’s impossible to ” social distance “, and in many hospitals, here at least, there are larger numbers of people in a very bad way from the virus. Doctors, nurses and respiratory tech’s are virtually on suicide missions on 12-14 hour shifts under heavy exposure. There’s not a whole lot of reporting on what’s actually taking place in hot spot facilities, just a broad reporting overall. A few videos have been publicized, but not many…because people are busy. In broader areas of the country where this isn’t… Read more »

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

” . . . in the emergency room and in icu’s it’s impossible to ” social distance “ . . .” Well, yeah. “There’s not a whole lot of reporting on what’s actually taking place in hot spot facilities . . .” I’m going to have to disagree here, perhaps even agree with ASD (go figure). What I mostly see is reporting on the hot spots as if they were the general case. Bergamo is “Italy.” NYC is not only NY, but the USA. Outside of Pierre talking about “flattening the curve” in South Dakota is ludicrous. People there don’t… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 month ago

kfg…”I cannot read most longer comments.” Clicking…think Machine Gun Kelly…

theasdgamer
1 month ago

BoJo suffering mightily at the hands of the physicians… “doesn’t the UK have a perfectly good National Health Service already? Isn’t it known domestically as ‘the Envy of the World’? — might consider a letter that appeared over the weekend in the Sunday Telegraph, written by Dr Steven R Hopkins of Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire. The chief medical officer, Professor Chris Whitty, has banned doctors from treating Covid-19 with anything other than paracetamol and in severe cases, oxygen. Colleagues have rightly condemned this response, which ignores the experience of doctors overseas. Professor Whitty’s position is that British doctors may not use therapies… Read more »

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

“…think Machine Gun Kelly…”

Got it.

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
1 month ago

Things I’ve done since the lockdown:
– Read Rational Male
– Read Rational Male Preventive Medicine
– Re-reading Mystery Method
– Binge-watch Californication (up to season 3.10)

Running out of options here

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Disgruntled

Running out of options here

Mad Men, Sopranos… Two great RP shows.

That should get through the week…

Read Robinson Crusoe… Excellent reference.

Learn how to trade and follow the markets… Even a little at risk is entertaining. Way of the Turtle is a good intro.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Disgruntled

And figure out how to fix Rollo’s blog issues…
Grrrrrr

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

And not this MGK

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ5aNm-tFgw
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kfg
kfg
1 month ago

If you haven’t disassembled, delimed and mirror polished all of your plumbing fixtures yet, the worst of running out of options is yet to come.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Hello Ladies is very good too. Very funny and RP. Only one season.

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
1 month ago

If you haven’t disassembled, delimed and mirror polished all of your plumbing fixtures yet, the worst of running out of options is yet to come

Thanks I’ll pass…

I have, however, been riding my motorcycle after work. The weather is tolerable now.

Also I’ve been reading up on Scientology horror stories and getting depressed about that… got to stop doing that

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

@disgruntled

Peaky Blinders

The Flashman Papers

@Palma
Ford v Ferrari

Haven’t seen it yet but Rush (2013) is very good.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

Big fan of the noir films…

Tough guys, hot chicks, raw RP all the time…

Jane Greer…
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Gene Tierney
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Lauren Bacall
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There are a lot of lists out there, here is one

https://www.eddiemuller.com/top25noir.html

Lots of films… hundreds?

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

“Lots of films… hundreds?” Per year until that new fangled “television” thing became a fad. Of course just like television shows most of them were cheap schlock, but if you haven’t seen: The Maltese Falcon To Have and Have Not The Big Sleep (you can compare Bogie to Mitchum) Double Indemnity The Third Man The Lady from Shanghai Well, you just aren’t cultured. If you dig around you’ll find hundreds of the cheap schlock noir movies on YT. Nobody cares much to take the trouble to track them down and copyright claim them (in fact I expect many of them… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

kfg
For comedy anti-noir see the various Thin Man movies.

The first two movies had input from Dashell Hammett, so there’s more than a bit of clarity in seeing. Even though he didn’t always have the best taste in women, he was a realist.

Plus William Powell’s smooth Game was in a class by its own.
Nick Charles first appearance in film. It’s said Powell used to drink during filming. Could be.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 month ago

Two losers jack up quantities of beer by claiming “we got th’ virus”.
The beer? Corona.

The place? Florida.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/stupid/coronavirus-corona-beer-caper-274903

theasdgamer
1 month ago

Meanwhile, we’ve had about 18k dead from flu in march. Does anybody still think that we’ll have 1.5 million dead from covid19 like the projection by the Obama hack?

theasdgamer
1 month ago

“the State of New York is not using the CDC recommended test due to problems that they’ve identified with it.”

https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/90095/how-does-a-coronavirus-test-kit-work

Blaximus
1 month ago

Glad you’re getting such a kick out of all of this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ITpx3J2sc

There was an election. Obama isn’t President. Hasn’t been for a while now.

I hope karma is kind to you.

Please, more fucking links…..

Blaximus
1 month ago

…. Old fat people should mind their mouths.

Just sayin’.

HF
HF
1 month ago

@ASD: all other factors aside, if we would handle this the same way as the flu, would we have the same number of cases/deaths as we have today? If not, what would be difference? Slightly more? Much more? What do you think?

Blaximus
1 month ago

What Asd missed in all of this, is that the covid stuff is in addition to/on top of ” the flu “. It didn’t replace it.

From wherever he lives covid looks very different than it does in places where it’s spreading. I don’t need an article to tell me that covid is more infectious than the flu.

Fucking tigers don’t catch the flu.

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

TP hoarders, anti vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, ‘just flu’ bros, flat earthers and others:

http://euromomo.eu/

http://euromomo.eu/outputs/images/Pooled-number.png

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

IRL

Winter is coming
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Is that the takeaway of that chart? Every winter a bunch of people die?

IRL
IRL
1 month ago

@Sentient Summer can be busy too… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots The 2011 England riots, more widely known as the London Riots, were a series of riots between 6 and 11 August 2011, when thousands of people rioted in cities and towns across England, which saw looting, arson, and mass deployment of police, and resulted in the deaths of five people. […] There were a total of 3,443 crimes across London that were linked to the disorder.[11] Along with the five deaths, at least 16 others were injured as a direct result of related violent acts. An estimated £200 million worth of property damage… Read more »

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

“Fucking tigers don’t catch the flu.”

Yeah, they do. So do penguins and anacondas. The biggest problem is pigs, because pigs can transmit flu to humans more readily than other animals. The reason so many flu viruses originate in China is because of the cultural habit of keeping ducks, pigs and people together. People can’t readily catch the flu from ducks, but pigs can, so avian flu jumps to people through the pigs.

Blaximus
1 month ago

Every year the flu season doesn’t overwhelm hospital emergency rooms and intensive care units. EMS doesn’t have 600 calls a day. Conspiracy theories and wild death projections aside, my concerns are strictly two fold – The infectious rate and the effects on the hospitals where I live. Yeah, people die every year, but the key is that those deaths are spread over a year. People are still going to die , corona or not, but not so many in a short timeframe. As I’ve said, I haven’t had the flu in 42 years despite being in close proximity to people… Read more »

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

“Lions and tigers and bears ( on my ) don’t come down with the flu yearly . . .” Yes, they do, and some of them die from it. It’s generally only reported among virologists, vets and animal keepers though, not a matter of general interest that some animal has the sniffles. The exception here is not the virus, but the reporting of the virus. ” . . . it’s not like zoo workers are hugging them.” That’s not the usual means of transmission, but yes, that happens. It happens more often with Granny’s moggie and vets have to treat… Read more »

kfg
kfg
1 month ago

Virus stuff that doesn’t typically get reported on CNN:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188478/

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