Most men never vet women for anything like long term acceptability. A lot of guys would have you believe they have high standards for the women they self-righteously allow into their lives, but for the most part this is internet posturing from Trad-Cons and ‘spergs‘ who’d like their circle of virtual friends to believe they have more options, or more learn-ed wisdom, than other men. After-the-fact rationalizations about how discerning a guy was in choosing his wife or girlfriend are a necessary insulation for men’s egos when they come into the Red Pill community. They get uncomfortable when the Red Pill Lens forces them to take a better look at their own choices.
The flip side to this are the guys who’ve already been burned by a woman, and by association the totality of Gynocentrism. They also tend to reverse engineering their lack of vetting. A wife who was once his Quality Woman becomes the bitch who turned on him – the living example of all women and their Hypergamous nature. Likewise, these guys never truly vetted their ex. In someways they may have been as equally naive about the nature of women as the guy still married and self-convinced that he’s done his due diligence in selecting the perfect mate.
Now add to all this a religious belief-set that is founded on marriages staying solid foundations of family formation and resistant to divorce (thus ensuring contentment and righteous living). Here we add another layer of self-blinding on top of men’s haphazard long-term mating strategy founded on his necessitousness. Surely a man’s true religion is the key to a loving and happy wife, appreciative children, strong family ties and quality of life? Men will always seek validation in the choices they invested their lives in – particularly in the face of realities that contradict them.
All of this is related to men’s long term mating strategy. I’ve written extensively on men’s innate mating strategy and the existential importance of men ensuring their own paternity. But just as women’s Hypergamy is a manifestation of their biological nature, so too are men’s imperatives in their own mating strategies. However, a distinction needs to be made with respect to Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks equalist comparisons with women’s strategies. Men and women’s mating imperatives are both antagonistic and complementary depending on the nature of the men and women coming together to reproduce.
Men’s innate, unconditioned, biological imperative is unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. Left to his own volition, and unimpaired by women’s Hypergamous filtering strategies, men’s innate drive is to opt for variety of sexual experience.
Critics will counter with “Well, women look for variety too dontcha think?”
While there is some truth in this, women’s desire for broader sexual experience is motivated by a search for better quality in the men she has sex with, not quantity per se. Monogamy (as we know it) is really a tool for low SMV men to socially ensure reproduction and paternity (at least in theory).
For men the motivation is about quantity. Yes, men love variety in women. Yes, men would rather there be no hindrance to getting to that sexual experience with that variety. This is why pornography is ubiquitous today, and has always been a motivator for men – unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. There’s a reason why young Muslim men are promised 70 virgins in paradise if they martyr themselves. Variety and ensured paternity, even if it has to be in the afterlife, is clearly a strong motivator for men. Rockstars and religious zealots all strive for the same goal, they just come to it in different ways.
Priorities
Men are so motivated by sexual experience that it supersedes the need for food. Research shows brain cells specific to men fire up when mates are present and override the need to eat. Take this as you will, but it does reinforce the idea that for men, sex is in fact a biological need.
Left unhindered human (Alpha) males will opt for securing multiple breeding partners; in some cases sequestering them for his long-term use. Locking away harems in secured compounds is something powerful men have done since our tribalistic past. Secure mates – secure paternity with them. There’s a reason why eunuchs guarded harems. The notion that men and women were ever naturally monogamous is an idealistic social convention. True monogamy in the animal kingdom is an extreme outlier. It’s just this prioritization of sexual opportunity that makes vetting women for monogamy compete with reproductive opportunism.
Strategic Pluralism
Most men are not Alpha males. The vast majority of men in this life and in eras past only had sexual access to a precious few women in their lives – if at all. Even in social conditions that rewarded monogamy and punished infidelity men and women have always found ways to manifest their antagonistic mating strategies. As few as 8,000 years ago (post agrarianism) 1 male reproduced for every 17 females. And as few as 4,000 years ago women were out-reproducing men. Again, read and make your own conclusions, but the point is human mating strategies find ways to circumvent social conventions.
On paper, monogamy is not a bad idea. As a social convention monogamy has been a stabilizing force in human evolution, but it in no way aligns with our innate sexual proclivities. Monogamy is a sexual strategy that primarily benefits low SMV men because most men will never experience (relatively) unlimited access to unlimited sexuality outside of pornography.
In Red Pill spheres we encourage men to consider themselves the prize. I personally believe that the most important step in unplugging a guy from his Blue Pill conditioning starts by internalizing the concept of Mental Point of Origin, but why is this often the most difficult step for men? It’s hard to think of oneself as a ‘winner’ when all a guy has done is lose for most of his life. The numbers don’t add up, and all the pep rallies a guy can pay for wont account for much until the day a girl actually responds to the “new you“. Feeling good about yourself is great, but most men want a solution to their sexlessness. Remember, sex really is that important to your male hindbrain. Food < Sex, got it?
According to Strategic Pluralism Theory (Gangestad & Simpson, 2000), men have evolved to pursue reproductive strategies that are contingent on their value on the mating market. More attractive men accrue reproductive benefits from spending more time seeking multiple mating partners and relatively less time investing in offspring. In contrast, the reproductive effort of less attractive men, who do not have the same mating opportunities, is better allocated to investing heavily in their mates and offspring and spending relatively less time seeking additional mates.
From Why Is Muscularity Sexy? Tests Of The Fitness Indicator Hypothesis
A lot of men get confused about the masculine imperative, but for the most part I think Strategic Pluralism Theory outlines most of mens’ mating strategies. In the Pareto Principle I delved into how women separate men into different sub-groups. The popularized oversimplification of this goes something like this:
“20% of men are fucking 80% of women.”
This is a misnomer. Granted, it used to have the good intention of getting men to believe that a small percentage of guys are having sex with a majority of women, and well, it might as well be them, right?
I’m sure that was meant to be a kind of motivational encouragement for guys learning Game, but it’s effectively wrong. The reality is 100% of women are interested in fucking about 20% of guys. We can see this repeatedly illustrated in various online dating stats and the realities of what Tinder has done to the SMP. But that’s the principle, not the practice. Just because a woman wants to get with a twentieth percentile man in no way means she will be getting with that guy. The issue here is the want not the get.
The Scarcity Mentality
Most men live in a state of sexual scarcity. So to implore a man to believe he’s actually the prize, or he should consider himself the prize, is an alien thought to him. Whether he acknowledges it consciously, his hindbrain understands the realities of his present-state sexual market value and it understands the reproductive equation it’s tasked with solving in (hopefully) a prosocial way.
Any time a woman actually shows an intimate interest in a low SMV man he will instinctively overlook the “deal breakers” his rational mind would otherwise give him pause to consider. Remember, sex supersedes hunger in the evolved scope of things for men. There are no considerations for ‘red flags’ with a woman when reproduction is of more strategic importance to his hindbrain.
When I’m listening to shows like Before the Train Wreck I hear the same predictable problems voiced by young men over and over again. There are consistent red flags these man should’ve seen before committing to a woman. And as a third party to this, we’re always dumbfounded by how the guy couldn’t have seen the signs before acting or committing to a woman’s mating strategy in order to facilitate a compromised version of his own strategy. Men’s rational process (particularly young men’s) are bypassed by sexual instinct and the hindbrain realization that his breeding opportunities are few and far between.
75% of college men would agree to have sex with a (semi-attractive) female they just met on campus while 0% of women would do the same with an unfamiliar male. Most men simply do not vet women for long term compatibility. The nature of our biology and our access to reproductive opportunities makes vetting a hindrance to solving a reproductive equation. In short, most men can’t afford to miss out on breeding opportunities.
As I outlined in Instinct, Emotion and Reason, our rational process requires time to be fully useful to us. The Instinct and Emotional processes are far quicker in their assessments and immediate effect on us. While men may innately prioritize reason before emotion, Instinct beats all other processes in speed and efficiency – if not accuracy. In our feminine-primary social order we further complicate (and disadvantage) men today by teaching them that their emotional response is the “correct” one to base decisions on. We conditions men to prioritize the Emotional process from a very early age. Again, all this makes actually vetting a woman for intimate acceptability almost offensive to the average (Beta) man today.
And this discomfort with holding any standards for women to receive his intimate approval also serves women’s sexual strategy.
You Just Got Lucky
There is a social aspect that comes into play with respect to men pairing up with women. As western societies have become more gynocentric the need to establish limitations on men’s mating strategies, and the simultaneous unfettering of women’s strategies, becomes apparent. In short, men simply aren’t allowed to hold standards for women to follow. And it’s offensive for men (not women) to even suggest the criteria women might need to ‘live up to‘ for men’s consideration of commitment.
Rich Cooper’s engagement on this one Tweet should illustrate what I’m getting into here. I’ve seen other variations of this message serve as outrage fodder for local news programs. The point is that a man making even marginal requirements for a man’s investment in a woman is met with extreme hostility. If your goal is getting social engagement there’s no better way to get it than by having the audacity to tell women they should qualify to a man – in any context. The idea that there is a man somewhere on planet earth who would voice his conditions for intimacy with women is unconscionable in gynocentric society.
But why? Why do women and their ‘allies‘ become so incensed by this? Because it commits the cardinal sin of the female power structure; it removes a degree of control away from women’s Hypergamous choice. If a woman must qualify to a man – in any context – it also sins against the maxim of the Strong Independent Woman®:
Never do anything for the express purpose of pleasing a man.
Notice how hostile women become when any man would place conditions on his terms for intimacy/commitment. This is a challenge to women’s unilateral control of Hypergamy in the social order. But more so, it is an affront to women’s Existential Fear:
The Existential Fear in women is that their innate Hypergamous Filter, their Feminine Intuition, might be fooled, and by being fooled she may either die or have her reproductive potential compromised for her lifetime by bearing and raising the child of man who is a suboptimal Hypergamous choice for her – a man who exerted his will over her Hypergamous choosing filters.
That a Beta male would ever hold conditions for his commitment triggers indignation in women.
Even Alpha men must never put terms on their commitment; men should feel blessed that any woman would have them. When Beta men reflexively default to social self-deprecation around their wives or LTR we see this social convention confirmed. We are conditioned to feel “lucky” that a woman lowered her standards to accept a man as her mate.
This is the intersexual poker game women play with men on whole. Entitlement, solipsism, anxiety over optimizing Hypergamy, all that competes with the foreknowledge that her attractiveness will decay over time. Women’s hindbrains know that their sex appeal, their agency in achieving that optimization, is ultimately perishable. Now add to this the anxiety that a Beta male might ‘trick’ her into choosing him as a mate and you can see why the Sisterhood will rally against men holding any demands for their interest in a woman.
Men often acquiesce to the mindset that they ought to feel fortunate that a woman would ever have them. They also foster this necessitousness in other men, usually as a form of Beta Game.
This endemic sense of metaphysical gratitude is what prevents men from even considering having standards for women. It also polices other men from holding standards themselves. How dare you be so arrogant as to expect a woman to live up to your demands? Just be glad the gods took pity on you and granted you a wife when so many Incels are at home with dick in hand. Tsk, tsk.
When a man ever has the temerity to evaluate women’s worth he’s made into a pariah. Today we expel boys from school for making lists rating the girls in their classes. Meanwhile women develop apps to do exactly the same for the men they’ve dated to inform other women. In a fem-centric social order only women are allowed to hold standards. This fact is a manifestation of a larger power dynamic between the sexes today.
A list of qualities a woman should have to please a man, to hold his long-term interests, goes viral and makes the evening news. Those men then become the easy, chauvinistic, villain to hate – “Can you believe that men like this still exist?!”
Eligible Bachelors
In my last post I made mention of how women were in crisis mode about the lack of ‘economically attractive’ men today. The articles about this crisis center on the idea of “eligible” men. Even the wildly popular show The Bachelor is built around the idea of men’s ‘eligibility’ to be considered for women’s approval. Qualify. Prove your quality. Be worthy of a woman’s love. Be ‘eligible’.
A female-primary social order – an order dedicated to maintaining feminine social control – needs to ruthlessly control which man is eligible for women’s consideration. It’s never the other way around. ‘Eligible’ is a way of psychologically maintaining a superior station of value for women.
Always bear in mind, women break rules for Alpha men and make rules for Beta men. But on a social scale it helps maintain the power imbalance if even Alpha men believe the same mythologies as Beta men.
This essay is the first in a series meant to establish a hierarchy of relationship needs that men might consider to help them accurately vet the women they allow into their lives and to enact these standards.
SilverFox My bottom line position on any current ” collapse ” is that it will be economically driven, but people won’t really understand how. The media is culpable in stoking the ” us against them “, but it’s reserved for regular people who are having a difficult time living the dream. All of the needed information is readily available concerning jobs and earnings and wages over the last almost 40 years now, but people believe it’s that ” something else “, somebody’s taking shit – it must be the damn poor folks! https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-02-14/u-s-economy-wage-stagnation-is-one-disease-with-many-causes Lol, I’ve been at my company… Read more »
Blax
“2 years ago, a guy killed 50+ people and wounded 400+ more in Vegas. We act as if it never happened today”
Well 244 years ago 120 were killed and we act the same way…
@ Blaximus “Lol, I’ve been at my company 23 years. In the past 5 years the company eliminated bonuses and pension plans, and the average increase in salary hoovers around 2%…if you’re lucky. But the CEO/CFO/Owner has 8 houses all over the country and if he actually works 60-70 days a year it’s a lot. The tension at work is palpable, especially for new hires that are expected to work damn near 24 hours a day ( be available!!!!). But, that’s a whole other can of worms. It’s the Libs.” Same same down under, and all across the developed world… Read more »
“Fox & Mudrock has a lot to answer for in perpetuating lies, fear and hatred, and they certainly ain’t no Liberals…”
In this example I was referring to the USA definition of “Liberals” / progressives. They are certainly the cheer squad for the Liberal Party down under, but their influence appears to be waning…
Fast forward to 10:25
https://youtu.be/SShNf-SE2iE?t=630
Fox, The last econ book ( relative to today )I’ve read was written by this chick ( she doesn’t have many videos under an hour ) Ex Goldman Sachs. Her book is called Collusion. She has a bunch of videos on YouTube, buuutttt….her book is better than her ” talking “. I am a diehard capitalist, but in it’s original form. an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market… Read more »
“Well 244 years ago 120 were killed and we act the same way…”
A reflection on the Battle of Breed’s Hill and the Burning of Charleston:
We came, we saw, but could not beat,
And so we sounded a retreat;
On Roxbury Hill again we saw ’em,
And did, like devils, clapper-claw ’em;
But warlike casuists can’t discuss,
If we beat them, or they beat us;
We swear we beat, they swear we lie,
We’ll tell you more on’t bye and bye.
Rollo, this has been one of you better, easier to read and more accessible to the newbie essays of late. Well done.
@IAS – suggest you learn a martial art. Something live-sparring based (judo, BJJ, boxing, Muay Thai et al). It’s not a replacement for “real” self-defence as such but it will teach you skills, train you to get hit and keep functioning etc. Also read Rory Miller’s book Meditations on Violence (dude is a martial artist and former leader of the troubleshooting squad that gets sent in to deal with prison riots etc in California – no stranger to violence) for a very realistic overview of violence, how it happens, how to stay safe etc. Also the website nononsenseselfdefense.com – realistic… Read more »
(both the Traveler Kai thread and the Miller book talk a lot about the practice self-defence type of stuff that you were asking about – the Kai thread also talks about stuff you can carry with you etc). I will give one spoiiler: by FAR the most important thing when thinking of street self-defence is AWARENESS and getting the fuck out of there if something triggers it. Do NOT be the guy walking oblivious down the street with your head in a phone – especially in the kind of location where attacks happen (I don’t necessarily mean bad areas of… Read more »
@HABD (and @Blaximus) – Greer is no East Coast progressive. I think you’ve probably assumed that because a) he lives on the East Coast (Rhode Island) and b) writes books for a living. But he’s nothing of the sort (I’m a fan of his as you can see). Grew up working class in the Seattle suburbs, worked his way up through a number of shitty jobs and lived below the poverty line as an assistant at an old age care home for many years etc, until he was able to live off his writing (also has severe Asperger’s!). Never had… Read more »
PS – While Greer is by no means Red Pilled, he is an independent thinker with some pretty sharp words about how feminism has degraded from being a worthy movement for equal rights for women to a system designed to try and get affluent white women everything they desire, and how the world doesn’t work like that.
He also points out that many early-wave feminists in the 1970s etc turned to Satanism simply because they were sick of being told the Bible required them to submit to their husbands etc.
PPS – Just to say: I used to be a pretty typical East Coast liberal/progressive UMC professional type myself. Although always more open-minded than most (I like to tell myself!).
It was pickup/Game, followed by the Red Pill about 5-6 years ago (for FI/gender relations/social/sexual stuff), and then reading Greer’s writings (politics/economics etc) that completely remade my understanding of the world.
@HABD, Culum: thanks. I haven’t been practicing too much lately but I have some years of martial arts and tried more than one.
Sharp stick it is.
Maybe it is time to take up hunting so I can legally have a hunting rifle.
I have a family member which is a biker and he often has interesting stuff, like that keychain which is basically a lead ball to swing into someone’s head. A bit more concealed than a knuckle duster. But I’m not wanting to LARP.
“It’s not racism. It’s called tribalism.” No, asshole, they were racists. If they were local to me, they’d be on my list, just like the race hustlers. Whites aren’t a “tribe”. Done with you, too, Blax. You have too much shit between your ears. Kind of funny, you calling me ‘ignorant.’ You have the market cornered on ignorance. You didn’t go to my link, did you? There have been tons more whites lynched than blacks. War for Independence. War of Northern Aggression. Wild West. When it comes to murder, are more blacks murdered by whites or whites murdered by blacks?… Read more »
“What we have today is Vulture Capitalism that is more about profit and manipulation and the destruction of the free market.” “What we have today in Big Business is Crony Capitalism that is more about the destruction of the free market and giving Big Business an advantage over small businesses.” fify Guess who writes the laws regarding regulation that Congress passes? Corporate lawyers. Guess why? Where in history have we seen Crony Capitalism? Germany and Italy in the ’30s. China now. Some in Washington, too. Russia. Europe. Republicans used to be the party of small business. Trump is taking them… Read more »
When it comes to lynching, if we just look at California… “In his provocatively imagined and deeply researched visual history, “Lynching in the West: 1850-1935,” artist Ken Gonzales-Day compiled known lynchings in California from statehood until the last confirmed incident. He counted 352, with the victims including one woman, eight African-Americans, 29 Chinese immigrants, 41 Native people, 120 whites and 132 Latino/as. (He could not determine the race or ethnicity of 22 victims.) Gonzales-Day’s careful calculations raise an important point about lynching: It was not just about African-American victims and did not happen only in the South.” https://www.hcn.org/articles/reckoning-with-history-the-legacy-of-lynching-in-the-West eight blacks… Read more »
Asd
😂😂
You’re a real dumb fuck huh?
You’re arguing against documented numbers to try and keep your point alive. You do realize more people are reading your words than just you and I, right! Why are you so.comfortable looking like a moron? Practice?😂
On a lighter note in light of all the survivalist western doom talk – I’ll offer another perspective.
Many years ago after a weekend of partying I starting talking about going survival tribalist with my college buddy, I thought he would be on board, would be count me in, but no – his response was simply this: F- that, when the SHTF I’ll be taking the first flight or boat to a Caribbean island or wherever and living out my remaining years like I’m on vacation.
Blaximus ,
Asdgamer is an older, autistic , fox news watcher. There is nothing gained by reasonable discussion with him as he’s immune to real thought and damn proud of it. He holds the record for the most consistent downvotes here, so evidently a majority don’t care what he spouts about practically anything.
I don’t believe in trying to reason with stupid people . Asdgamer has an excuse for his odd behavior so in my opinion you should just let him be, as he’s just yelling at clouds.
Hammersmith
😂 I don’t comment here to talk about the shit Asd believes. He thinks he’s ” explaining ” things to me that I’ve heard my entire life and know better than. He prods, I comment, he unleashes a torrent of ignorant bullshit, then has some warm milk and takes a nap before the big dance off.
A life of blissful ignorance, stupidity and fear and anger isn’t a life. There aren’t enough dance steps in earth to fix that.
Palma Sailor,
That was my buddy’s statement not mine – I was telling him the Shit is going to hit the fan more than 20 years ago and was thinking of plans.
I am well aware of the potential impact to infastructure. funds, food, fuel, etc.
To his point I believe he said he would even walk his way down if needed with ZFG to the consequences
his response was simply this: F- that, when the SHTF I’ll be taking the first flight or boat to a Caribbean island or wherever and living out my remaining years like I’m on vacation.
If I only had a dime for everyone who says this…
I could buy that Island. Sure will be crowded.
Blax, you’re as predictable as the sun.
So are your sock puppet clowns.
“It all stops working.
No flights, no boats, no infrastructure.
No ones going anywhere like that.”
Shit dependent upon fossil fuels will stop. Sailing boats will still work.
Pussy will be plentiful and offered to those in power for transport, but pussy will just be taken. Diamonds likewise.
Escape to a safe place is about timing. It’s about optics and intel. Lots of people have better optics and intel than the average Joe. You have to get to the safe place before tshtf.
“Asdgamer is an older, autistic , fox news watcher.” Sure, I watch Fox News…(hotel limitation because of mostly traveling)…it’s entertaining more than informative…Tucker Carlson…Jesse Waters…Greg Gutfeld…John Stossel (loved his homeless panhandling schtick…”I won’t lie to you. I’ll use the money to buy beer.”) …impeachment “inquiry” is just a circus, despite Fox taking it seriously…there won’t be any formal vote on impeachment in the House…I expect that Durham will be assassinated for the same reasons that Epstein was…too many powerful people have a lot to lose…(yeah, I watched “Shooter”) Breitbart mostly the same…a few exceptions like stories by Sheryl Atkisson…and stories… Read more »
“^^^ this is the guy that had to ask to borrow his wife’s car to go dancing a year or so back because the battery in his truck was flat…” …funny thing about batteries…they can be very temperature dependent…the auto’s cranking amperage might be fine one day, but an unusual cold snap hits and the cranking amperage goes to sh*t…then you get the battery tested the next day when it’s warmer and the battery tests fine…something those in England almost never have to contend with…nor colder places with battery plugins everywhere… …you turn on your lights for ten seconds to… Read more »
“…funny thing about batteries…they can be very temperature dependent…the auto’s cranking amperage might be fine one day, but an unusual cold snap hits and the cranking amperage goes to sh*t…then you get the battery tested the next day when it’s warmer and the battery tests fine…something those in England almost never have to contend with…nor colder places with battery plugins everywhere… …you turn on your lights for ten seconds to warm the battery, but that won’t work if it’s too cold… …guess whether my truck or the wife’s car is closer to the house and why that makes a diff…… Read more »
@Blaximus
“https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ZvtGvLdlI
Lol. Technically you owe me a fucking apology, but I’ll let it slide”.
Lol, who asks for an apology when their wrong?
Said you were acting stupid, and that fully stands (on firm ground lol). You’re not dumb…, clearly gotten a lot of things right in your life. Props to you.
But Bruce Lee is not breaking a board with a one inch punch while floating in water, and that’s the point.
Running and jumping and momentum and all the $HiT aside…
😘
Collapse has a driver.
IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve( the devil ). It’s not decline brought on by behavior.
If you believe strongly in fiat currency created by the trillions out of thin air ( With close to zero inflation. WOW!!!!). the collapse will totally fuck you.
If like me you understand that money is temporary and beyond your long term control, the only problem you’ll have is dealing with the believers.
Lol, but money makes them softer than Wonderbread.
Beers
I like you man.
But…
Learn how to fight. Fight. Fight well.
Then talk to me.
Which Caribbean islands are food, fuel and money independent?
Which lack any socio-political tensions that might cause the s to htf if these were interrupted?
Which do not maintain their borders?
Where will you get money if you can’t take yours with you or it is considered worthless when you get there?
Lol.
Don’t say ” bubble “
Blax, you gotta hard*n for me or sump’n? And what about your hitting the bong hard? I’m curious–does that lead to psychological projection?
lol
“If like me you understand that money is temporary and beyond your long term control”
Funny thing about money. We all die broke.
“Which Caribbean islands are food, fuel and money independent?”
imported, so you can use your boat to trade
“Which lack any socio-political tensions that might cause the s to htf if these were interrupted?”
previous answer still applies
“Which do not maintain their borders?”
any where the s has htf
“Where will you get money if you can’t take yours with you or it is considered worthless when you get there?”
have boat, will trade
islands will still have to deal with pirates, as will any boatdwellers
Blax, I’m sure all those riots are unrelated and that there’s no conspiracy behind them. Kind of like the revolutions of 1848 in Europe. Totally unrelated. It’s all just economic conditions.
lol
@Palmasailor
No cold beer in fridge.
can’t have that now!… lol… you’re gonna need cold beer for the apocalypse!…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-in-pot_refrigerator
you can use a burlap sack too…
this^^^ actually works pretty well if you have dry enough climate and some breeze…
good luck!
“… you’re gonna need cold beer for the apocalypse!…”
Once upon a time I was living in a little mud brick village with one refrigerator (and one generator) to go around for everybody. They used it to keep the beer and Coca-Cola cold. After all, you might live through food poisoning.
HABD
you’re gonna need cold beer for the apocalypse!…
A friend of mine way out in Wyoming has done some reading about the supervolcano underneath Yellowstone. His plan if that thing ever erupts requires a fine cigar, a porch with a view, and very good whisky. Cold beer as long as it lasts.
kfg
Which Caribbean islands are food, fuel and money independent?
Heh. Some questions answer themselves just by the asking.
Out in the prepper zone of the web there is a collection of stories post-breakdown about one Caribbean island. The man who wrote them was basically gaming out a situ on an island where he lives, in a “slow then rapid decay” sense. They are interesting to read as what-if’s.
Fuel goes away very fast in any scenario.
Oh, geez. My wife hates when I have sex with her, and then post up on the web, or talk with my buddies about it. So just to piss her off: I have to mention that this song came on my earbud playlist. (I listen to music when going to sleep. I sleep well.) Sabotage Beastie Boys I can’t stand it, I know you planned it I’mma set it straight, this Watergate I can’t stand rockin’ when I’m in here ‘Cause your crystal ball ain’t so crystal clear So while you sit back and wonder why I got this fuckin’… Read more »
Oh, shit. Now Alice in Chains Man in the Box is playing. Of course it is about censorship, Jesus Christ. Now you’re so messed up… But anyway, riffing in the manosphere and seeing ASD and Blax artue about shit, there is this thing about The Fundamental Attribution Error. It running rampant. Not-withstanding that. It’s odd that lurkers and newbies aren’t jumping in here. And as a one off there is a phenomenon well admitted that on MRP reddit that I don’t go to much that they are proud of banning newbies for asking ignorant questions.What’s up with that? A power… Read more »
“Which Caribbean islands are food, fuel and money independent?”
Who cares?
I had my first wet dream in the Bahamas. No lie. I was like 13 y.o. and we used to sojourn there for a month there in the 70’s. And ride around in golf carts and dream about the cool French girls vacationing there. My father was adventurous and took us everywhere.
So what is if was backwoods? Back then. And still now…
A set up primitive. It was an adventure. It wasn’t meant to be robust for a hurricane, nor financially stable.
He also points out that many early-wave feminists in the 1970s etc turned to Satanism simply because they were sick of being told the Bible required them to submit to their husbands etc.
I see it the other way around. They were already following Satan when they chose to usurp their husbands and upend God’s prescribed patriarchal dominion. Men are the image and glory of God(1 Corinthians 11:7), to usurp men and join the baby-sacrificing-cult of Feminism is choosing the satanic whore-religion of goddess-worship.
“Who cares?” People who think they’re going to sit out shtf on an island while riding around in golf carts with cool French girls. “My father was adventurous and took us everywhere.” Mine took me to mud brick villages, and mud brick you can’t even see a village from here, with no golf carts, or electricity, or running water, or doctors you wouldn’t call “witch,” for months at a time. If there are golf carts, never mind cool French girls to ride in them, you haven’t gotten anywhere near the primitive backwoods yet. Which is fine if that’s the sort… Read more »
Back in the 80’s, I was hanging out at a future hedonism resort ( forget what it was called before the name change ) in Jamaica, and I decided to travel to visit family members living in a place called McGregor gully. Tourist were advised not to go off ” exploring “, and to stick with tourist approved areas and towns, but I figured that didn’t apply to me. Since none of my family had phones or any way to contact them, I figured I just ramble about asking the locals to direct me. When I arrived and stepped out… Read more »
Pisseding Contest.
This is the book that made our family start stocking up on supplies.
Might last a couple of extra weeks that way.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002LATV16/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
who downvotes cold beer?…lol
https://www.city-journal.org/the-end-of-mens-magazines
Points of view
https://americanmind.org/essays/americas-delusional-elite-is-done/
“Yes, if things go sideways, keep your ass where you know the landscape and environment.” See, this is bullsh*t advice for people who live in areas with dense population. Food is a problem quicker than in rural areas. Before things go sideways, make some friends in the country and discuss a business setup where you sharecrop and help them with security against gangs. Maybe even buy a cheap house nearby. You’ll need a horse to pull a plow and one to ride and a carriage and cart. Maybe learn how to make wooden wagons. That and blacksmithing might be good… Read more »
“The protesters were apparently heading towards the police HQ. Now there’s and counterintuitive move if ever there was one.”</i?
yeah, never been done before, lol…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Tacoma_attack
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/world/europe/paris-attack-police.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_attack_on_Dallas_police
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/02/mong-kok-police-station-hong-kong-1479454
totally unrelated, I’m sure
“Before things go sideways, make some friends . . .”
i.e. keep your ass where you know the landscape and environment. “Where you are” does not mean literally where you happen to be sitting when you read this.
“Where you are does not mean literally where you happen to be sitting when you read this.”
99% of people understood. Then there’s asdgamer. lol
““Where you are” does not mean literally where you happen to be sitting when you read this.”
I’m fairly certain that Blax meant to not venture into unknown places, but to stick to known places. For most people, that would mean where they live. For urban dwellers that would mean not rural places.
I’m not sure why this is obscure to you. Maybe you live in a rural bubble, lol.
Speaking of bubbles, I watched “The Game” again recently, for the nth time. It’s a good reminder about reality and bubbles.
Fact, why don’t you see if you can locate a 100 ft. ladder, then climb it. Then you’d be close enough to my level to kiss my @$$. lol
Yollo, The 2 guys in that video are economically illiterate. Pro tip – any time you hear someone saying shit like ” the stock market will crash… “, it means that they believe the stock market is positively connected to the broader man on the street/job economy. If that were remotely true, when the market is setting higher and higher records, workers would benefit at record rates as well, and gdp would be stratospheric. There’s no longer a positive connection, only a negative one ( see financial crisis of 2007-2008 )( that we still haven’t recovered from as ” wall… Read more »
Gold from Jack reacher never go back
“Samantha : No, I give him shit. Strong guys don’t hurt you. The weak guys do that. Strong guys always have little sisters. Or they want one. I don’t know why, that’s just how it is.”
“What do you mean you lost your pensions because of the housing crash?”
I suppose Yollo means that some pensions were heavily invested in securities that became worthless because of the housing crash, the banking industry’s short term credit crisis which was related to the housing crash, and the subsequent stock market collapse
…GM stock/bonds
…Countrywide stock/bonds
…Lehman Bros. stock/bonds
…Bear, Sterns stock/bonds
…many other corporations (that went bankrupt because of the housing crash) stock/bonds
…CD uh-O’s
…other shit
“Fuckleheads talking about redistribution of wealth????
It’s been happening for a generation already.”
You talking about the Federal Reserve? Yawn.
The Greg Gutfeld Show was hilarious today with his skits about Adam Schiff. Kind of like Sat. Night Live.
I’m talking about the world.
…except China.
How was the ” short term credit crisis ” resolved?
Better yet, how will the next one he resolved?
Hint: you can’t print more money or QE your way out…again, and you can’t lower interest rates any lower.
Watched Rollo and Ryan discuss sex and marriage recently and that led me to this article. I have benefitted immensely from Rollo’s work, writings and insights. However, I take exception to some of his conclusions and comments. To wit: While Jordan Peterson is a little weak on RP insights, he is dead on when he maintains that in life there are hierarchies that matter. Upset these and the price will be very high. To my observation, the top of the human hierocracy is the man, then women, and then children. Rationally trumps emotion. Strength trumps weakness. This is confirmed by… Read more »
Women in Congress are more moral and so better equipped to lead…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7609835/Katie-Hill-seen-showing-Nazi-era-tattoo-smoking-BONG-NAKED.html
@theasdgamer If you don’t reproduce, you eventually become irrelevant to anybody. true enough… sooo, do you have enough food, clean water, shelter, etc… and planning/protection against ‘eventualities’… to get daughter gamer (assuming she will pop out another kid) and the grandkid through the upcoming social unrest?… you know, all the shit we’ve been talking about?… if not, and they don’t make it through to ‘reproduce’, you are genetically in just the same situ as one of those incels that you keep pointing out… “yep… everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth” experience…gotta learn to get up… Read more »
@IAS
Sharp stick it is.
Maybe it is time to take up hunting so I can legally have a hunting rifle.
if you can get a rifle by just jumping through some legal hoops, you should definitely do that… even a single shot .22lr would give you options… which are always good…lol
good luck!
HABD, ” if you can get a rifle by just jumping through some legal hoops, you should definitely do that… even a single shot .22lr would give you options… which are always good…lol” Agree. I learned to ” shoot ” initially using a .22 rifle around and 10. Learning with such a firearm builds skill and understanding, and respect for the tool. Over the last decade I’ve watched a lot of guys I know rush out and purchase AR15 type weapons as their very first firearm. To add insult to injury, once they learn to load, fire and clean the… Read more »
@Culum I will give one spoiiler: by FAR the most important thing when thinking of street self-defence is AWARENESS and getting the fuck out of there if something triggers it. Do NOT be the guy walking oblivious down the street with your head in a phone – especially in the kind of location where attacks happen (I don’t necessarily mean bad areas of town although that too – I mean more that urban attacks tend to happen in transition spaces – not in a crowded mall because it’s too public and not out in a deserted suburb because there isn’t… Read more »
I said all sides, didn’t I??
so is ZeroHedge down or what?
…
” Pretty fast they will be too malnourished to fight because most are “plant based” to a greater or lesser extent..
The field will clear.”
😂😂😂
@Blaximus Back in the 80’s, I was hanging out at a future hedonism resort ( forget what it was called before the name change ) in Jamaica, and I decided to travel to visit family members living in a place called McGregor gully. Tourist were advised not to go off ” exploring “, and to stick with tourist approved areas and towns, but I figured that didn’t apply to me. Since none of my family had phones or any way to contact them, I figured I just ramble about asking the locals to direct me. lol… not much has changed…… Read more »
@Sentient
so is ZeroHedge down or what?
…
came up for me…
good luck!
Doomer-game is pretty funny stuff. Back pre Y2K I knew some men who were convinced they’d be setting up a harem in their neo-feudalist world once the giant die-off was done. These men couldn’t get a girl to go to the movies with them, couldn’t get their act together enough to even show up at a pistol match, but somehow once Thuh System ground to a halt due to computer malfunctions, they were gonna be kings. I lol’d some at the time, I lol much more now. Because there were people who did go out and buy a genset &… Read more »
re Monogamy Part of the reason why feminists, historically, were so very anti religion is that the Bible – at least the Old Testament – explicitly allows and endorses polygyny. Lamech, Abraham, Jacob, King David, especially King Solomon all had multiple wives, and this was normal. The other direction, a woman shared by two men, is utterly forbidden, by death. (European Jews made a temporary edict against polygyny over 1000 years ago since their Christians neighbors were opposed and jealous. Polygyny continued and still continues on a very small scale among non European Jews). If a religion acknowledges Bible as… Read more »
regarding Vetting Years ago, in a Kosher restaurant near LA, I listened to a table full of Orthodox Jewish girls, all good looking and around age 20, complaining that they are the ones who have to send their resumes (qualify) to get dates with boys, and not the boys sending resumes to them. To explain, among many Orthodox Jews, matches are commonly made or suggested by Rabbis, family, and matchmakers. They get resumes from the girls, vet them, and pass along the resumes to appropriate boys that the girl qualifies for. Then the kids go out and see if they… Read more »
One of the most overwrought questions in the manosphere twitterverse is are we blessed with cult leaders. To determine this we will use three metrics: sex, money, power. The potential cult leaders regurgitate on these themes endlessly, so the metrics are relevant to each personally. Sex No potential cult leader is having lots of sex with a variety of women. Their key problem is that they have formed “cults” composed solely of men, and spend most of their time in their bubble. Money Nobody is making much money at this. “Cult” members do not freely give lots of money to… Read more »
redlight
One of the most overwrought questions in the manosphere twitterverse is are we blessed with cult leaders.
Lol, whut? Who is asking that question ? Where are they asking it? Did you make this up in your head? Why?
Those are my questions.
@anon
The “manosphere twitterverse” was meant to help direct you. For example Rollo on twitter today, in reply to ongoing insults:
Rollo Tomassi (@Rollo Tomassi)
10/28/19
Who’s the real “cult leader”:
The guy who gives you the tools to build a better life for yourself?
Or
The guy who tells you that emulating his life’s decisions and adhering to his beliefs is the best way to live?
Who’s the real “cult leader”: The guy who gives you the tools to build a better life for yourself?OrThe guy who tells you that emulating his life’s decisions and adhering to his beliefs is the best way to live? if one could unceremoniously and unofficially and anonymously join a cult that has no leader, no hierarchy, no command center, no rules and that brainwashes people to think for themselves… “you can all think for yourselves. now fuck off” Rollo Tomassi is a joke name, Sir,… like Biggus Dickus. Rollo shows men the door they have to be the ones to… Read more »
@fleezer
“Rollo shows men the door”
everyone agrees Rollo has shown men the.door
,,,, where’s muh cult??
@Blax
……*snore……Take wimminz rights………zzzzzzz
“Women in Congress are more moral and so better equipped to lead…” @ Sentient Make no mistake Kenny Heslep voluntarily cucked himself via utter frame collapse to Katie Hill’s desire to bisexualize the marriage. As always a Beta husband (Heslep) entertains a domineering spouse’s (Hill’s) desire. He fools himself thinking he’s going menage-et-trois. She knows that he’ll be sidelined, jerking off in the corner. Hill was the femme in the relationship too, FFS. The other woman is always the bait. I wrote about this lesbian threesome bait-and-switch stuff, I’ve seen it happen IRL and it always ends up with the… Read more »
What happened?
“RP is amoral, my ass. That’s Rollo slippery-snaking himself away from any residue of this psuedo-religion.”
????
Austin, where I moved a little over two years ago, has three kinds of women: 1) College chicks, fresh away from mommy and daddy, not a one of them with any inhibitions or intention of do anything to keep a man anymore. But at least they’re hot and want to bang. 2) Tattoo covered, half-shaved head, everything pierced bad impersonations of men straight out of the modern media script of a Strong Independent Woman, 100% certain she’ll never run out of supply of men. 3) Tattoo covered, half-shaved head, everything pierced bad impersonations of men with Chad’s children that have… Read more »
Sun Wukong Austin, where I moved a little over two years ago, has three kinds of women: Whoa, why so narrow? There’s more than East 6th Party girls and the bike community. Whutabout the South Austin blue collar girls, a lot of them still working barmaid / bartender gigs? Whutabout the North Austin nerdettes who grow weary of their cube farms? Not to mention crunchies of various flavors around the edges of TechSavvyAustintacious. C’mon, branch out from the track / bike world. Drop by Laguna Gloria some Sunday afternoon, just for the culture, for example. Do yerself a favor, there… Read more »
@Blax
That TFR chart needs more data points on the left side of the X axis, preferably going back to 1920 or even 1910 to get a fuller picture.
No idea what’s going on with EhIntellect, but could be some personal problem he’s buffering by picking fights around here. The current “Fight me, Rollo-bro” attitude is stupid and bogus. As if “War Brides” descriptive text somehow is prescribing men to go out and commit mass murder. Stupid. Bogus.
Buffer. Deflection. Something not in order.
False crime allegations should be dealt with definitive punishment.
False rape accusation? Genital surgery that makes it impossible for you to have sex, and to be raped, and therefore to imagine you were raped, for ever.
What’s actually happening today for false rape accusation is: the accuser get lavishly handclapped. Praise, praise, encouragement. No other consequence.
You basically have a wealth of NGOs, state-linked agencies, and the cultural industry encouraging wildly a crime (false rape accusations), and the rest of society, amoral as it is by its nature, look at the whole picture idly.
@redpillrabbi
Still, who defines what “successful families” are? The adults, and those with the power? And if you didn’t obey them in the past, they would ruin your name and make your life miserable in the entire “community”, of course.
In every speech, the choice of words always reflects some power dynamics.
Of course standard people need guidance and authority, or they became self-ruinous, and ruinous for the others (specially the others that care about them) quite easily.
@theasdgamer
I’m sure all those riots are unrelated and that there’s no conspiracy behind them. Kind of like the revolutions of 1848 in Europe. Totally unrelated. It’s all just economic conditions.
lol
Who would dispute that? As they have been saying since 1848… it’s the People who make history.
LOL.
@ Blax What’s going on is this: the basis of RP has just enough useful truthiness to be deemed credible yet unworkable IRL if carried out. Rollo is not evil, he’s more like AR. That is, they’re both invested deeply and have lost the ability to self-examine. People use that ignorance to 1) hate on others and 2) stridently pose as hero figures. What else are they going to do with all this? Critically spell out the failings of an ideology guys use for survival and hope and esprit de corps…but not thrive…for the sake of honesty? Even the demagogues… Read more »
https://pagesix.com/2019/10/28/christie-brinkleys-ex-husband-peter-cook-60-engaged-to-21-year-old/
Met at 19 at Le Bilboquet
https://nypost.com/2013/11/09/at-bilboquet-everything-old-is-new-again/
What happened? Blax — He’s been moving away for a while. It’s not new … it’s been in most of his posts over the last few months if you read them — most of it is criticism, sometimes more veiled than this one but criticism all the same. Eh has been clearly moving in the direction of morality and making the right choice and a more holistic approach for a number of months now — it’s obvious if you read his comments over the past 4-6 months. I’m not criticizing that perspective per se (I also have morals and do… Read more »