The Rational Process

 

One of the most vexing things a lot of Red Pill aware men encounter when they interact with women today is the expectation that women are coequally as rational agents as men. We were taught from the earliest ages by our blank-slate equalist teachers that boys and girls are all the same, having coequal potential for coequal successes in life (as they define them), then primarily focusing on the ‘correct’, female way of educating both sexes. This education isn’t limited to just the classroom; the Village uses many ways (media, pop culture, religion, etc.) to deliver what is fundamentally the same message – boys and girls, men and women, are essentially, effectively, the same with respect to their potentials. Now, that’s the message not the practice. Even when they are forced to recognize definitive differences they simply dismiss them by saying “We’re more alike than different” in the presumption that this should be enough to refocus and reinforce their blank-slate belief set.

So when men and women consider differences in gender, differences in double standards, inequalities in gender-specific issues and pretty much any empirical debate about these and other differences, men presume that the women they are ‘debating’ with are also looking for earnest, equitable answers beginning from the same coequal state of mutual interest. This is almost never the case.

The pretense that’s been embedded into men from the earliest years of their Blue Pill conditioning is since men and women are coequal agents they should both be interested in finding an objective truth together. But the frustration in this ‘debate’ comes from the simple fact that our differences are actually much more significant than the dismissals of equalists would want them to be. The roots of this deliberate misunderstanding are twofold: First, the innate solipsistic self-interest of women, and second, women’s predisposition to interpret information using the Emotional (versus Rational) interpretive processes.

When men and women debate intersexual issues of contention men opt for their innately preferred Rational interpretive process; we look for factual evidence to support a premise. Women opt for the Emotional process and then consider evidence. This difference in processing is where a lot of personal and ideological obstacles come into play between men and women. Our educational priorities of both men and women prioritizes the importance of emotion and its expression before a consideration of the Rational process. We teach boys/men to sublimate their natural proclivity towards reason by replacing it with the Emotional process. Thus, we’ve seen the push to encourage men to get in touch with their feelings or their feminine sides since the late 60s.

As I mentioned last week, women prioritize context (how a conversation makes them feel) in communication while men prioritize content (the information of the conversation); these differences are part of our biological/neurological evolved inheritances. This is where the misunderstanding starts between the sexes; however, calling this a ‘misunderstanding’ is a bit of a misnomer.

I’m sure a lot of readers think this is a longwinded way of saying women’s emotions blind them to the facts that men present to them when they debate. While this is true in a sense, this is shortsighted because, in the interests of simplifying things, most guys will just blow off the dynamics that build up this (often deliberate) miscommunication. Women don’t like the way a Rational-prioritized conversation makes them feel. Often the reality is unflattering to their solipsistically defined egos – but the communication feels wrong because women’s presumption is that men should just know to acknowledge their feelings in that debate (all communication really). On the female side the presumption is that men and women, being blank-slate equals, already know to prioritize the Emotional process, while on the male side men presume women will prioritize the Rational process because, again, we’re all the same, right?

This presuming that one sex sees the same way as the other is endemic in our time. I had a reader pose me with a similar example:

I had a conversation with my LTR at dinner tonight where I did a thought exercise with her. I asked her to imagine what it would be like if people visually saw different colors when they looked at various objects but had consistent names for those colors in their own minds. For example, person A sees what person B calls Blue, but it looks like what would be called green if person A could peer into person B’s mind. The point was we can’t know what colors actually look like from an individual subjective perspective. Although I tried several times to walk through this, she couldn’t comprehend what I was trying to explain. I then realized that this exercise involved imagining a first person conscious experience from multiple perspectives. This test could be a proxy test for (women’s) solipsism.

This thought experiment is a good way to illustrate solipsism in women, but it’s an even better example of the default presumptions men and women have of each other in other areas. As it stands today, in our feminine-primary social order, the Blue Pill conditions us to default to cognitive models that are defined by the female experience. Thus, whatever best satisfies a female-primary purpose is always considered the correct purpose. The way women think, the way women prioritize their Emotional interpretive process, is the right way for men to think – and the mutual presumption is that men already do (or should) think and process stimuli like women do. Anything else, anything that would recognize a difference in men from women, always feels wrong.

This default presumption of a female-correct way of interpreting and experiencing the world isn’t limited to our differences in communication. This misalignment of interpretive differences also extends to the false presumption that men and women approach the concept of love from a mutually understood perspective. Men love idealistically, women love opportunistically, yet men’s presumption is that both men and women approach love from the Disneyesque idealism they believe women are capable of. Men too believe that women see the same colors they do and have the same names for those colors. In this case those colors are the concepts and approaches women have towards love. I may write a new essay outlining this dynamic soon, but I’ve already written many prior posts on this experiential difference.

Rationalism vs. The Rational Process

As a result of pushing the Emotional process as the correct way of interpreting our world the Rational process necessarily gets demonized today. It feels wrong to a social order predicated on the Emotional process, so the truths that the Rational process reveals seem cruel, biased or vindictive when they refute the interpretations of the Emotional process. The importance of Emotion has been elevated above an interpretive process to where it’s now entered a metaphysical realm. This is where the Emotional process becomes Emotionalism. In the light of this, the Rational process is overshadowed and sublimated in importance. But the Rational process is what exposes emotionalism for what it is: Emotion is an evolved, biological interpretive process that serves our species well, but the feelings it generates are biological responses to environmental stimuli, not evidence of some higher consciousness or mythic existential importance that goes beyond anything in the physical realm.

The Rational process throws a cold bucket of truth on lofty emotionalism. As a result, and because emotionalism has been a basis of our social order for millennia now, the Rational process had to be debased in importance.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. – Proverbs 3:5

This scripture is an example of the conflict between emotionalism and the rationalism that popular social consciousness would like to apply to the Rational interpretive process. The Rational process is based in our collective and subjective intelligence. Healthy men and women both have the mental hardware to use the Rational process well, but where we differ is in our gendered mental firmware. When we collectively prefer one process to the other, this is where we decide which gender’s process will define our social order. In order for emotionalism to supersede rationality and ensure its preeminence appeals to the emotional above the rational have to be popularized.

If we could depend on an unbiased, unadulterated form of reason the Rational process would be a superior methodology. But as I stated before, rationalism is dependent on intelligence and that intelligence takes time. In some ways the Rational process is sensitive to both instinct and emotion, in other’s that reasoning is painfully, sometimes fatally slow. The world happens fast and vacillating in the reasoning process might easily kill an individual. Fortunately we have instinct and emotion to carry us through. The Rational process requires time because it requires learning, contemplation, theorizing and any number of high-order thinking processes to be effective. And even then, that effectiveness depends on reasoning’s accuracy. For the past three or four hundred years we’ve increasingly had the luxury to develop our Rational process, but for all the advancements it’s given us, when it comes to intersexual dynamics emotion is still the priority.

We have placed such importance on emotion at the expense of reason that we’ll risk personal safety in our ‘right’ to express it. No doubt most men are familiar with repressing their emotional responses, but it’s interesting to consider that even with this self-control and even with our innate predilection to process emotion differently than women, men are the ones accused of failing to be ‘in touch with their emotions’. On first glance Robert Greene’s quote here appears to be wisdom (I think it is) – self-control, mastery of one’s emotional state, is a virtue. Yet, in our emotional-primary social order we’ll hear women complain that men are less emotionally available. And this conflict illustrates again that whatever is expedient to the female imperative is what is to be considered ‘correct’ at that moment.

Empiric reason is the foundation of what humanity has made of itself. Setting aside emotionality and considering challenges in a Rational interpretive process is fundamental to understanding the emotional and instinctive process and their advantages and weaknesses. For the record it’s my belief that all of these interpretive processes in union are are necessary elements in the human experience, but my focus on these processes is to lay a foundation for a better understanding of them. It’s easy to get caught up in the demonization of the instinctual and the rational when the emotional is defining what’s bad or good for our collective experiences.

When I wrote Appeals to Reason I was exploring the futility of expecting women to transition into a logical reasoning of why she should logically be with a guy who was more than happy to embody all of the aspects she stated she wants in a man. The manosphere idiom is “no woman was ever reasoned or logicked into bed with a guy”, women don’t follow the Rational process when it comes to interrelating with men. It’s all Instinctual and Emotional, and usually in that order. A man might be able to use his rational facilities to better understand women’s evolved instinctual and emotional responses, and what prompts them, but reason itself isn’t the key to that interrelation.

Appealing to women’s logic and relying on deductive reasoning to sort it out is the calling card of a Beta mind. There is nothing more anti-seductive for women than appealing to her reason. Arousal, attraction, sexual tension, subcommunication of desire, all happen indirectly and below the social surface for women. It’s not that women are incapable of reasoning (hypergamy is one logical bitch) or are crippled by their emotion-based hindbrains, it’s that if you’re asking her how to be more attractive you don’t Get It. It’s in the doing, not the asking.

If you’ve stuck with me to the end of this series I want to say thanks. I really felt that these interpretive processing models needed to be fully outlined as what I’ll get into in the coming months will need this as a basis for it.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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@Silver Fox: I think this whole discussion should have been in the FR section already but that is up to Rollo not me. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you aren’t invested in the Persian girl – whoever pointed out you are sniping (Palma and ASD) got it. It is not even the ticket, it is the time and effort you are putting here asking for advice. You know how I know? Because I’ve done exactly the same with two girls. So I’m clearly invested in them (maybe I shouldn’t, but at least I’m aware of it). Sentient in particular will… Read more »

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“Wear your white suit today.”

Who’s this Tom Wolfe guy? I’m wearing modest white as it’s day one of Ramadan.

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“Wolfe was totally red pill. Irreverently so. He keenly observed. Then wrote stuff that read like a flow state. His non-fiction read like fiction and his non-fiction read like reality. Back when Neil Strauss was writing/wrote The Game, Tom Wolfe wrote this (2004): http://musingsofabookslut.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-am-charlotte-simmons-tom-wolfe.html Posted by tommitalkthai at 7:27 AM TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2010 Quote: When the Duke Lacrosse case (2006) rocked the world, and most certainly North Carolina, many people remarked at the similarities between what was revealed as life on Duke and the life at the fictional Dupont University in Tom Wolfe’s I am Charlotte Simmons (2004). For… Read more »

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Wolfe saved what he touched—report cards, tailors’ bills, to-do lists, reader letters, lecture notes, book blurbs, requests for book blurbs, drawings, ideas for drawings never executed (“Nude Skydiver Devoured in Midair by Ravenous Owls”), and dozens of sexually explicit and totally insane letters from a female stalker, including one consisting chiefly of 17 pages of red lip prints.

DPA gonna DPA…

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@Foxy – IAS giving you good advice but note one big difference. When younger guys who have no game are asking about how to game, they are in a different place than and older guy (50+). In my case I was a natural alpha with some very blue pilled ideas, and pedestalized women. I used to say I was like Warren Beatty in Shampoo, I got laid a lot but never really knew why. I also fucked up with women regularly in terms of seduction and didn’t know what I was doing wrong. But I had a model-quality face, brains… Read more »

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@ fleezer “but is a unicorn really a unicorn if they’re everywhere? maybe unicorn really just means any hb8+ you can ride like a pony if that’s the case, then hope, unicorns and rational red pill thinking not only can coexist, they must coexist as the only way to hunt magical unicorns is with a totally rational red pill mindset….” Great perspective, especially with your kicker which is where i’ve fucked up time and again with the hb8+’s i’ve pulled over the last half dozen years. I’ve always been able to pull them, but then i fall into pedastalizing &… Read more »

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This is good timing. I was thinking the other day about arguing with feminists using facts. I was thinking in particular about when men say something like, “Men commit suicide more than women do.” The usual response is, “Well, women attempt suicide more than men do.” Usually, this leaves men flummoxed because it seems pretty obvious that it’s better to be alive than it is to be dead. The thing is, women say this because it feels equal. It’s the same lack of logic that women use during divorce: Why does she deserve the house, kids and alimony? Because it… Read more »

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Damn the pua’s for that phrase ” add value “.

I thought it was the MBA’s who were to blame for that phrase?

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Wear your white suit today.

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@ scribb Man, for me women in their 30’s are young for me at the mo. I need to work on them before moving up to the younger models you are slaying. We shall see. The Persian is early-mid 30’s i reckon, HB8+. It’s hard to tell but i will have a much better idea after we go out. The German is 31, HB8 (Killer body, attractive blonde but not stunning). “Think carefully about this. Who is she for you? And who are you for her?” Very good point. For me she is someone i was instantly attracted to and… Read more »

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That pic of Tom Wolfe reminds me of classic ZZ Top

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SSF See, i’m quite emotional for a RP man, and my emotions and mood swings have caused me a lot of misery and suffering over the years. I have high highs and low lows. This emotional behavior is a likely a combination of learned, hormonal and inherited (depression runs in families). It’s no good for you, you don’t reallly like it, right? Hormones: How’s your Testosterone? Seriously, when was the last time you had a full blood workup? Neural pathways / learned behavior: What patterns of thought AND action work to bring you out of the low lows? Did you… Read more »

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so what would be the best way to handle a rational vs emotional debate/arguement in an LTR?
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Dump that bitch, bang 10 more

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Ton lives?

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As correct as it is on the macro level, I think the essay is a bit of an overreach. Man is not a rational animal, but a rationalizing animal comes to mind. In the book, “How We Decide” (I think that’s right without checking) the author argues that rationality is a “backfill process” that occurs after the fact as a justification. Yes, men tend to be more advantaged at rational thinking, but that’s more of a “first blush” reaction. It’s like when I was a teen, guys would throw a bottle of beer over a concrete floor, and shout, “Think… Read more »

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Alpha girls hate when you bait and switch them… https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2018/05/15/lucas-glover-pga-tour-wife-arrested-domestic-violence/613142002/ “Lucas Glover told officers his wife began yelling at him – calling him a “loser” and cursed at him – over his third-round performance as he shot a 78. The taunts came in front of their kids and Glover’s mother, who tried to intervene, according to the police report. Glover told the officers that his wife tends to start arguments after he plays poorly. Glover’s mother, Hershey Glover, suffered “multiple lacerations” to both arms and had blood on her clothes and skin, one of the officers wrote in the report.… Read more »

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Governor “Fifty Shades” Greitens walks…

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/us/eric-greitens-missouri-governor-charges.html

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Emotional argument…

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https://twitter.com/Lucas_Glover_/status/996421994164998146?s=19

Send this guy TRM stat!!!

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@ Anonymous Reader

Avoiding booze & rec drugs for the most part at the mo, eating well with a Keto focus, pretty active lifestyle but my libido has def dropped over the past few years (i’m 52), but i can still get it hard and rock any chick who turns me on who is enthusiastic…

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@ Palma, Sentient, Eh, asd etc…

Just dropped my recent long text convo in Field Reports that set up the “date” that’s got such a response here, gentlemen. Definitely looking for feedback…

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There is a difference between reasoning and rationalizing: http://rtraerdoingethics.blogspot.com/2010/08/reasoning-vs-rationalizing.html Men reason. Women rationalize. Men do, women talk. Reasoning vs rationalizing A reason is “a statement offered in explanation or justification” that expresses “a rational ground or motive” and “supports a conclusion or explains a fact.” As a verb, reason means “to use the faculty of reason so as to arrive at conclusions.” Reasoning is thinking. Being rational refers to having a reason, being reasonable means “being in accord with reason.” In moral philosophy arguing involves giving reasons for a conclusion. An argument, therefore, is not about opinions or beliefs, but… Read more »

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@FoX Avoiding booze & rec drugs for the most part at the mo, eating well with a Keto focus, pretty active lifestyle but my libido has def dropped over the past few years (i’m 52), but i can still get it hard and rock any chick who turns me on who is enthusiastic… I think you may want to re-read AR’s comment and follow the questions to dig deeper than that. Keywords: hormones, full blood workup, neural pathways, patterns of thoughts, learned behavior, patterns of actions, history in the family. It’s not about the solution you’re applying (no alcohol, no… Read more »

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“…so what would be the best way to handle a rational vs emotional debate/argument in an LTR?” […] Life is sacrifice and risk taking, and nothing that doesn’t entail some moderate amount of the former, under the constraint of satisfying the latter, is close to what we can call life. If you do not undertake a risk of real harm, reparable or even potentially irreparable, from an adventure, it is not an adventure. –Nassim Taleb, from Skin in the Game. “Dump that bitch, bang 10 more…”,/i> …take some Fat Tony wisdom: always do more than you talk. And precede talk… Read more »

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@ If

“Basically arguing like bitches. But, often the man doing this is lauded for being a natural or an alpha or being good at being a man.”

O.k….then this: “I realize that my experience here is atypical, as I managed to pull off the “magic trick” of finding and coralling a unicorn-bitch.”

“Unicorn-bitch”? Haven’t read everything though that phrase is kinda faux Alpha, IMO.

You’re kidding us, right?

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Digging deeper than that and investigating patterns of thoughts, learned behavior, patterns of actions is the basis is the thesis of Dave Gray’s Liminal Thinking: Create the change you want by changing the way you think. Anyone that takes the Red Pill is by definition in a Liminal Space. And if he wants to proceed, he would do well to change the way he thinks. That’s what is the biggest inflection point in Red Pill: changing Mindset. And speaking of that, one of the best practices of Liminal Thinking is “Make Sense with Stories”. In other words: Field Reports. When… Read more »

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@SJF There is a difference between reasoning and rationalizing More interesting is to say they’re basically the same = a tool employed to explain and interpret reality. I keep saying that the forebrain is a buffer… to stop you from acting in a rigid way and to enable adaptation and planning long term. The downside is that you can get stuck in your inner world, divide by zero, and not be able to act. When you think you’re being rational – you’re just rationalizing; processing and producing logical conclusions that mesh with the emotional background. When you’re making plans, trying… Read more »

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“Facts alone may provide information, but a story gives you context that connects those facts to people, situations, and events.” Hence @If comment was odd. Not the content, the presentation. Anyone proclaiming to have discovered the Hang around here long enough and though writing styles differ, writing manner and content is insightful and believable. If either don’t mesh, well, yeah, @If, I don’t listen to reason first, my instinct alarms, and reason comes after. How men reason through their self-preservational instinctual feelings is completely different than how a woman deals with it. Men use emotions to arrive at different conclusions… Read more »

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Anyone proclaiming to have discovered the….

unicorn is suspicious.

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For it will always remain that action without talk supersedes talk without action. “Demonstrate, don’t explicate.” Of course, here on the interwebz, demonstrating is less feasible. I’ll relate an experience from this a.m. about demonstrating. I was at my keyboard in the basement of my home and heard noise on the ground floor. Mrs. Gamer was up. I stayed at my keyboard, ignoring her noise. Pretty soon Mrs. Gamer came downstairs, holding jewelry, chasing me. I knew that she wanted my help putting in on. I gave a look of resignation and Mrs. Gamer laughed, “You know what I want.… Read more »

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Cypher couldn’t bear living disconnected from the Matrix.

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@Eh wrote: “For example, I rarely feed my woman food when we’re out and if I do it’s at the point she’s wobbly from hypoglycemia and activity and we’ve fucked once already that day. It’s not about cruelty (I know she likes the ends of the earth tipsy weariness) but about the natural order of things. That one meal we do eat after hours of waking and socializing and drinking and sex is about nourishment, not some cultural expectation we eat three squares and I pay for it all.” I don’t go to the extremes that Eh does, but he… Read more »

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Women overportioning the food and the man commensurately overeating makes him less attractive and more sedate and less fuckable to other women. She’s isolating him for her sole future benefit. It’s a hindbrain tactic to slow you down, keep you close…a postcoital refractory period through your gut. At a certain point she feeds him enough lasagna, he can’t see his dick beyond his pannus and she can start going on GNOs to start that Alpha search again. Her Beta provisioning is taken care of, napping comfortably in his postprandial stupor. I wrenched my ankle purple while dating my girlfriend. Didn’t… Read more »

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“Make sense with stories.” hot “maga” babes everywhere – they’re fucking nerds too. so scared and sheltered. just a little exposure to T is enough to get them all silly and tonguetied if you can game, fuck and meme – they’re more dtf than ever. so fucking slutty. “conserv” leaning girls are the hottest and the sluttiest and the best fucks why can’t shitlibs one sheet? why can’t they make sense with stories? “Funny thread.” twitter is the toilet bowl of humanity twitter terrorist = wet introvert maga pussy girls obviously love love love to see “likes”, “retweets”, etc. they… Read more »

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https://twitter.com/cfchabris/status/995719073332940801
https://www.nas.org/articles/homogenous_political_affiliations_of_elite_liberal

“Shocking data on left-wing ideological homegeneity of tenure-track faculty at 51 of top 66 elite colleges: 132:1 ratio of Democrats to Republicans at Williams, 19.6:1 at Union, zero Repub anthropology professors anywhere, overall: >10 Ds for every 1 R”

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zero Repub anthropology professors anywhere,

Last year I was listening to some college girls talk about their classes. One was taking honors anthropology. She had just learned about IQ test cultural bias from her tenured professor and told all about it. Ready for the key word?

“Regatta”.

The ghost of Franz Boas smiled…

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Ha ha… this is the shit… I now admit to him that I still wonder: How the hell did he get himself invited to Leonard Bernstein’s cocktail party? He smiles and surprises me again. He’d gone to Harper’s magazine one day in late 1969, to pay a call on Sheila, then his girlfriend. Sheila was busy, and so he went looking around the offices, to see what he could see. He came upon the office of the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Halberstam. Halberstam wasn’t in it. The door was open; Wolfe walked in. On top of a great pile on… Read more »

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Sentiient quotes:

I now admit to him that I still wonder: How the hell did he get himself invited to Leonard Bernstein’s cocktail party? He smiles and surprises me again.

Perfect. Perfect mindset. Mau-mauing the flak catchers is still one of my fave books of essays.

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@Sentient: LOL at the self-invite.

Funny example: several years ago, the pretty girlfriend of a work buddy told me she just used to go to hotel swimming pools even though she wasn’t at that hotel, you just act normal and they won’t challenge you of course.

I now do more of that stuff (including that sports event in a recent FR).

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IAS Tom Wolfe didn’t set out to become Tom Wolfe. Over and over if you look at the backstories of successful people, you find a thread of serendipity – and a liberal dose of DPA. I ended up where I am, after dropping out of college in year four, by taking a job where the sole criteria to me at the time was that it was close by. Rollo did not set out to become a “Lion of the Manosphere and Founding Father”, he was just a commenter on a forum. What young guys need to understand is that you… Read more »

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“Over and over if you look at the backstories of successful people, you find a thread of serendipity” “What young guys need to understand is that you can’t really plan your way to a life. You have to seek it through experience. Yes you can develop skills, but you never know where the payoff really is.” Yes. Exposure to positive uncertainty/black swans events is key. “What Have You Got to Lose? Maybe your book doesn’t get published, or your photos are only seen by a few people on Instagram. What have you really lost? Just a little bit of time,… Read more »

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@Sentient @j

(Re)reading Robinson Crusoe to my son. Love it.

Taking chances, following dreams, learning from experiences (so much happening before the final island).

And this (minus the “you do the math”):

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When he was 19, my spouse got onto a military base (his girlfriend had a military ID card which allowed access). He walked into a squadron building where he knew no one, went up to the front desk and asked if he could get a backseat ride in the F16.
He didn’t get one, of course. But they remembered him.

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I should add, yes F16s are single seat. The trainers have two seats.

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Oh dear…

2018 Female Pipeline Shortlist…

They are The City! And the city is pretty fucking ugly…

https://risingstars.wearethecity.com/rising-stars-shortlist-2018-full-list/

Jeebus… Zero 9’s, maybe – maybe – two 8’s, a handful of 7’s…

and this

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and this!

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and I don’t know how this got on there?

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“Zero 9’s”

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Close?

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“To feed her sporty spirit she is a keen traveller, hiker and backpacker with multiple adventures across Asia, New Zealand and South America.”

ahhh just my type wink

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Close?

Not really. But close to a Hillary Special at Kentucky Fried Chicken.

https://twitter.com/KarolinaSzud/status/972077535239507969

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“They are The City! And the city is pretty fucking ugly…” this is why sniper techniques apply so well to modern city life methodical patience required real hbs are like hummingbirds gotta pay attention and be ready to deploy all tools in the kit when the moment strikes the rarity of hb8+ might make a guy want to handle each little bird with care wrong their rarity requires you attempt to crush thier little bird brains at every turn in this case nature becomes counterintuitive becomes second nature – i fucking ignore and then troll the shit out of every… Read more »

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9?

Lol. I’ll never understand the hb thing. Ever.

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….shit lol

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7 all day every day.😂

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That KFC sign is a riot! I’ll take mine extra crispy

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Hillary Special… LOL

On 9’s… be discerning, hold that back…

Fleezer real hbs are like hummingbirds

You need one of these

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DPA HoFamer Peter Tunney set up a modeling agency when he was in high cotton…

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jq_z8lJFaHQ/UjAky2rEM8I/AAAAAAAAY1k/FfJQuV6YhM0/s1600/Fashion_Scout_Casting_SS14_Simon_017.jpg

or try NYC between 14th St and 28th St south to north and Park Ave S to 6th Ave east to west during the day.

Or the Whole Foods on Houston Street… lol

herds gonna herd.

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“herds gonna herd.”

Meatpacking District on a Fri/Sat night

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Sentient, we used to say–back when dinosaurs roamed the earth–be ready to catch the opportunity bus when it stops. Requires preparation and attention, both.

J, if there’s any lesson from Wolfe’s party crashing or Mike’s attempt to get in a F-16, it’s to transgress boundaries and ignore rules. Create your own opportunities. That’s a whole nuther skill set.

Fleeze:

it’s fuck marry kill
and marry and kill are not options

What? Doh, now you tell me.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BQdvkncjHHo/?hl=en&taken-by=mckennaberkley

lol… love the keds. They want to be taken for more than their looks, but will never give up on their looks…

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hey man, I like chicks with beautiful faces as much as the next guy, buuuuuut

Thicc chicks > models

https://www.instagram.com/barstoolsmokeshows/

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Well that’s a good problem to have J, world is full of em. Enjoy!

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“Yo dudes!!! guess what? I picked up a fucking model last night from da club and I fucking banged her all night!!” *high fives*

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https://www.imgmodels.com/cipriana

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J

Definition of discerning
: showing insight and understanding : discriminating a discerning critic

There’s a good fellow.

Be discerning.

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By far the best barometer of female beauty is how other women act or feel around her. The more they want to kill her, or themselves, the more beautiful the woman.

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Good comments on seizing the opportunities and positioning yourself for those opportunities.

Puzzled about the thicc comment… From my past experiences, I prize a beautiful face above a hot body, but those models have both… J?

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@IAS

Not every model has a banging body like Mckenna Berkley, Adriana Lima, or Emily Ratajkowski.

The top 3 US mainstream models:

Kendall Jenner:

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Cara Delevingne:

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Gigi Hadid:

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Random chick on BarstoolSmokeshows Instagram page:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh9dn5HlSb8/

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“By far the best barometer of female beauty is how other women act or feel around her. The more they want to kill her, or themselves, the more beautiful the woman.” always always always enjoy watching the looks wife gets from passing hotties 1. approaching hb never looks at me. not even a glance 2. eyes scan wife from feet up to head in less than 1 sec 3. no chance for a smile as she is instantly categorized as potential threat girls have crazy ability to spot anatomical truth under clothing so they know even when hb is in… Read more »

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@ j

I know a guy who has actually stated that he likes a woman that’s built like a 12 year old boy.

Chicks are supposed to have curves. Fuck all the ” top model ” shit.😂

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“The top 3 US mainstream models:”

pass. pass. pass.

“BarstoolSmokeshows Instagram page:”

yes. yes. yes.

but i won’t pay for them to visit those locales

or take their pictures

those are not model pics so chances are there is an interchangable beta boy behind the camera for every single one of her mega filtered “glamour shots”

don’t be that guy. be the guy she’s fucking after that guy passes out from all the hard work of being her executive assistant

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First IRL, now fleezer with the ice cream reference.

I first date took a 19 year old to ice cream. Next thing I know I’ve 1 wife, 2 mortgages, 3 cars and 4 kids.

Fairly warned.

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https://youtu.be/fQHAmkuzxa4

A songwriter feeding a Male and a female Lion . Hungry Male Lion reluctant to take meat as the thrower throws the food disrespectfully.

Look at the comments. Even A Male Lion have Respect but Men don’t. Some guys even pointing that ” Feeding that Lion that way shouldn’t be considered inappropriate “. And other commenters are LOL-ing like you. Why you guys don’t ever get angry? Female Imperative shackles you with false laughter and false ego display.

Who Lols here too often? Autistic Gamer, EhBoozer, kfg . I hate you guys. FUCK YOU..

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Masculinity is Ridiculed af

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@Rollo

Hilarious hammster poetic article written by an Alpha Widow. It has memorable quotes like:

“I miss the man I thought I knew. The man I had fallen so deeply in love with even though he was abusive, sexually ass@ulted me, cheated on me (which I only found out after the relationship ended), and, as a parting gift, gave me genital herpes.”

Lol

https://www.ravishly.com/2016/12/28/i-still-love-my-abusive-ex-boyfriend

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Lol @ Escher

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@Eh
the ice cream reference

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Hahaha, this comment:
wtf was the noise she made sounds like the hulk and a camel moaning violently

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“I hate you guys. FUCK YOU..”

https://youtu.be/ap_yACjgZ1c

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MAssive loss of masculinity having consequences beyond feminists and poosy.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Tg2QtpP7A&w=1280&h=720%5D

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[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSrX4YwTpK4&w=1280&h=720%5D

Again, be informed, watch what you eat and what it comes in.

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Oh yeah, ignore the sales pitch at the end of the video.

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eh
again I’m not Chinese

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@ EhIntellect I didn’t say phony. I said that the commenters were not always bastions of rationality. @ EhIntellect & Fleezer I didn’t say unicorn. I said unicorn-bitch. I know the word unicorn implies magical, but the idea I was trying to express is that it’s about as close to magic as one can expect in the real world. The unicorn-bitch is the woman you want, could deeply convert and raise children with and beyond. I like fleezer’s optimism of there being a million of them. To throw out an idea… In a Pareto distribution, we’ll say the population of… Read more »

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“I hate you guys. FUCK YOU..”

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Unicorn-bitches herd up like all the other girls. If you find one, you’ll find several. Typically appear snobby. And their herd will include mares with papier-mâché horns.

Look for girls who are decent…there are a few out there….test early, test often…or to use Blax’s terminology (without his spell checker), “vet them thoroughly”

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So very sad; reading about these imaginary conquests that were contrived in the groups rather fertile imaginations over the last couple pages.

Remember that the greatest deception of all is self-deception; and is there anything sadder than the overarching need to lie in an effort to derive the requisite psychological fix in a vain effort to get to tomorrow?

The Male Slave Gender needs to learn its place. Movements such as “MeToo” are vehicles for effectuating this outcome; but I think stronger measures will be needed down the road so that any uprisings in the future will fail to manifest.

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@Blax That guy in rogan’s podcast is full of shit. Perhaps its a generation of people who look at how fucked the Iraq war is/was and refuse to sign up for another rich man’s war. Homeless vets, piss poor VA’s across the country that disrespect veterans when they deserve the best care coming back from hell. Project 22, look it up. I knew a guy that I met at a VA function at the school I went to who didn’t see combat but got extremely fucked up from gulf war syndrome. Other vets spoke up as well and said they… Read more »

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ab17, I’m not sure of the exact tooth to tail ratio is for the military, but I’d guess it’s about one to 50 or more.
The vast majority of funding goes toward the support end (various forms), not the “business” end.

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“Movements such as “MeToo” are vehicles for effectuating this outcome; but I think stronger measures will be needed down the road so that any uprisings in the future will fail to manifest.” Faux outrage (or virtue signaling by expressing outrage at things we know to be outrageous and expressing fake outrage at things that some find distasteful) is a one-trick pony show, with easily exhaustible resources. Those tactics are becoming a very desiccated teat. Humor seems to work better than constant mindnumbing soulcrushing outrage at everything. I often find the best way to fight snowflakes is through constant MicroOffence™. Their… Read more »

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