Dangers of the Blue Pill

This clip arrived in my Twitter stream a couple of days ago and I was going to dismiss it until I read through some of the comments about this guy on the ensuing Twitter thread. I’m going to give you my take on what I think is really going on here and then I’ll contrast this with how other viewers interpreted this incident. I was about to pass on this until the conversation really made this an interesting social experiment.

I have seen things like this before. Remember, for the better part of my ‘real job’ career I’ve been around a lot of people who are socializing and drinking. I watch guys pick up women, I watch women pick up guys, and I’ve seen a lot of couples argue in public. One thing that these couples all have in common (or at least 90% of them) is the guy trying his damnedest to get his girlfriend/wife to ‘come around to him’. As you may guess, the majority of these men were Betas who ‘just didn’t get it‘ and were appealing to their woman’s reason in order to resolve whatever it is that was making her turn off to him.

Again, most of these guys were oblivious to the fact that their trying to reason with her was only emphasizing the fact that he just didn’t get it, and that she was paired off with a guy who needed to be told how to get it.

The guy with the capacity to call a woman’s bluff with a confidence that implies she is to be worthy of him rather than the other way around is the Man to be competed for. Essentially the ‘chick speak’, ‘chick advice’ phenomenon is a shit test writ large on a social scale. And even your own mother and sisters are in on it, expecting you to ‘get it’; to get the message and see the challenge for what it really is, without overtly telling you.

She want’s you to ‘get it’ on your own, without having to be told how. That initiative and the experience needed to have had developed it makes you a Man worth competing for. Women despise a man who needs to be told to be dominant. Overtly relating this to a guy entirely defeats his credibility as a genuinely dominant male. The guy she wants to fuck is dominant because that’s ‘the way he is’ instead of who she had to tell him to be.

Observing the process will change it. This is the root function of every shit test ever devised by a woman. If masculinity has to be explained to a man, he’s not the man for her.

I have been this guy before. I’m not happy to admit that, but in my 20s, during the time I was with the BPD girl she made a habit of airing out her insane jealousy, insecurities and general relationship disorders as publicly as possible. When this becomes a way of life for a guy it changes you and particularly when it’s part of a woman’s personal neurosis. At that point in my life I had fallen very Beta (almost Omega by Vox’s standards) and I made all of the same mistakes I see guys in this predicament make when I’m working. I also know better than to try to correct these guys, because, like myself, they can get really hostile towards you or themselves when you point out the obvious to them.

So, a couple of caveats here; I don’t know for sure what’s transpired before or after this incident, and I have no idea if the guy is imbalanced (I’m being polite). It could be him, it could be her, likely it’s both, but I do know the patterns and I can see that the guy will resort to self-injury to make a point. This is a classic expression of Blue Pill Beta frustration with a girl.

The girl could be blameless and he’s just a nerdy Blue Pill Beta reacting to his frustration in not understanding how to resolve whatever it is that set him off with her. I’ve watched a lot of guys in the ‘Gamer’ social set who fall into this type. They buy into the “open communication is the key to everything” ideal that the Blue Pill told them women want, so when that ‘open communication’ is actually the reason for his problems he gets frustrated. Women are supposed to be reasonable, co-equal egalitarian agents in a relationship and when his appeals to that reason are ineffective, what’s left for the kid?

Again, this is me speculating. What we do know is his reaction. Imagine if this guy had actually broken the window and cut himself (and maybe a few bystanders) to ribbons. I mention this because it’s the reaction I’d expect from the Blue Pill mind that makes a guy believe that killing or hurting himself will in someway emphasize the seriousness with which he wants to resolve the issue he believes is crucial to his happiness with a woman. This is one of the main reasons I’ve always said kill the Beta before it kills you. There’s a very real danger that a Beta mindset will lead to you or someone else’s injury or death.

I’m actually inclined to think that the incident was his own doing though. She seems indifferent to him even after the head bang, but likely that might be due to embarrassment. She’s certainly frustrated with his attempts to get her to “listen to him”.

I’ve mentioned this before, but as women have become more self-assured about their own personal safety they feel more secure in provoking physical altercations. I understand that women love to say that they feel threatened by men all the time, or they have to always think about their personal safety no matter where they are, but I really don’t see this in real life – certainly not at my own promos. In fact it’s quite the opposite. I have seen women on many occasions (both drunk and sober) deliberately instigate confrontations that never needed to be started. All of them did so from a feeling of invulnerability because they know that no man would dare to actually assault her while she could wail on him with impunity. I think this is a new social trend with women today. They understand that if the guy she was hitting actually hit back there would be half a dozen men in the room who would beat his ass for raising a fist, much less his voice, to her. Women know the power that an opportunity to defend a woman has over men; it’s a confirmation of the old social contract that women still expect men to adhere to.

I’ve also seen women start altercations with other women in the same confidence that her man will fight the other woman’s man if the two of them get into a fight. They do so by appealing to their man’s Alphaness (or lack thereof) and having her back no matter what – even when she’s being stupid, catty or drunk. It’s kind of a new play on the ‘Lets you and him fight’ social convention, but if cooler heads prevail and one or both men pull their women away from the other they just look like pussies or less than men. Again, this is one more way women can socially reserve their bestowing or confirming manhood on a man.

Is any of this happening here? Likely no, but it’s important to remember these things in context with incidents like this. That’s important, because a few of the female readers of this Twitter thread seemed to think that, rather than his kid being a potentially terminal Beta, he had the potential to be an abuser. In fact this was their first impression. I guess I can sort of see this from a woman’s perspective, but I really think the Sisterhood Über Alles kicks in when women see something like this. Always take the woman’s side first.

I think women see this through the girl’s eyes. They understand what she’s going through in having the guy try to ‘logic’ her into understanding. They understand the girl’s frustration at just having to deal with this Beta.

https://twitter.com/yourpacrat/status/975455414568587264

I’ve probably done a really bad job at this, but my intent here is not to beat this guy up over this whole thing. When I first watched this clip I thought, “Yep, been there, done that”, and like this guy I was in my 20s when I did. It seems like this is something men must learn for themselves as part of their unplugging. I think one thing that makes unplugging more difficult today is that the stakes are so much higher when a guy just ‘doesn’t get it’. There are guys who never get past any of these Blue Pill trials because they make bad decisions that seemed logical or profound at the time and they have to live with the consequences for failing that Blue Pill trial.

I would bet that this guy is still with this girl today. Even with this going slightly viral I doubt he’s learned anything from the experience and I’m sure he’s still trying to figure out how to make this pudgy little HB 3 happy. His head bang against a window (which he had no idea was plexiglass) is really a manifestation of his own self-loathing. He wont hit her, he’ll hurt himself to make his point. This is what guys like this have been taught, to express his emotions, but in this instance that emotion is angst and frustration.

It’s easy to think that guys like this are too far gone. It’s easy for guys who’ve been Red Pill aware for a long time to dismiss Beta behaviors that they were also subject to, but have been so far removed from now that they think shit like this doesn’t happen.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

788 comments on “Dangers of the Blue Pill

  1. Stress. Fuck stress. I have a low threshold of acceptable stress. When stress no longer serves it’s true purpose of motivation and reward, it is completely dropped. Stress cannot be allowed to bleed into and all over other aspects of your life.

    Sex. Sex is a normal need/function in life. It stands alone, separated from ” other things “. When a man is dating ( not snl’s ), all of that investment in time should not go to waste just going through some bullshit motions. Dinner, movies, show, sex…. And what, pray tell, are you ” talking ” about? Making a lot of cutesy small talk? Fuck that shit. Make your time serve your larger purpose, or don’t bother ” dating ” and NEVER GET MARRIED. You haven’t laid one cubic inch of groundwork.

    Imo, if I’m going to get into a ltr/relationship, I’m going to have a full understanding of who I’m dealing with. Vet. Always. Every chick. Don’t ever just talk a bunch of random shit, or ask a bunch of meaningless questions that you don’t really care to know the answers to. You canmtalk empty shit to odd strangers ( although that’s a waste as well. Move your lips with purpose..).

    It’s the same with sex. Yes, here goes blaximus yet again imploring all men with eyes to Get Your Sex Game On Point. Is enjoying sex just about placing your dick in a pussy? That’s it? Hey, no hate, but stay out of any kind of relationship. It is a total waste of time, save for ejaculation, for a man to be all about humping away until his nuts drain. That’s like a man only eating bowls of Cheerios for breakfast, lunch and dinner for years and years and years. He’s eating technically, but is he really enjoying it? How would he know? Because he’s not starving?

    One thing that remains in my brain regarding the married woman I’d been banging, was when I’d found out she was married, I had a hard time wrapping mynhead around how enthusiastic she was in bed, and how she gushed…lol… About the ” new heights ” we reached so often.

    Huh?

    So what in the golden fuck was her husband doing? What had he been doing? I felt kinda bad because my personal code is not to fuck other guy’s wives, but at the same time I was dumbfounded as to what in the hell was taking place in their bedroom.

    Listen, lately I’ve been running into men that aren’t really into sex of highly sexual. It’s baffling, but to each his own. Those cats should not marry or get into relationships. You’d be asking for trouble. Sex is important. I do not have enough words to STRESS this point.

    Marquis, if you asked my ex or current wife if they had any sexual desires that weren’t addressed in some manner, I’d bet you my house that they’d answer ” nope “. Hell, understanding red pill will give you a map to follow sexually. Never have a woman ask you for something sexually ( I’m talking wife..) Or give you any kind of instruction. Ever. Don’t be boring. They don’t want to actually TELL you that you are boring and predictable in bed. They don’t want tomhurt your feelings. One thing I’ve learned being around hundreds of chicks in a huge social circle over a lifetime, is that most of them are aware of a man’s ego when it comes to sexual ability, and most of them would never ever want to have to verbalize displeasure sexually. Might as well bang the sexy counter guy at Subway, and keep it on the down low.

    When they start verbalizing dissatisfaction, cancel Christmas. It’s already on the highway to splitsville.

    When I was a wee lad, I’d lie in bed with a diamond tipped hard on hoping for a girlfriend that I could do all of the ” nasty ” things that were swirling around in my head. When I became sexually active, I was thrilled and trust me, I went for the gold. I never saw girls as special snowflake princesses that were pure and chaste and whatever. I was a boy and they were girls. This shit was destiny.

    But I’m beginning to think that lots of guys don’t get it. If you are a guy that gets it, you should find yourself the object of adoring gazes post coitus. Sandwiches and cold beverages should flow freely.

    Sex.

    That shit is important. Your job isn’t as important as your ability to sexually dominate. You weren’t put on this earth to work a 9 to 5, but you were put here to sexually dominate ( thereby pleasuring ) the woman of your choosing. Get life priorities straight and HANDLED.

    Happy Easter!!!!!!

  2. @Blaximus

    I already had a Happy Easter with the family. The kids and their SO’s just left. Holidays are significant benchmarks for Family Game.

    In regards to sex, one of the round table knights in the the discussion of the Red Pill Group Rugby linked @March 31, 2018 at 12:27 pm mentioned the only thing Dr. Phil ever got right. At the tail end of the discussion, one of the conversants brought up:

    * The belief that sex is not important is a dangerous and intimacy-eroding myth. Sex provides an important time-out from the pressures of our daily lives and allows us to experience a quality level of closeness, vulnerability and sharing with our partners.
    * Sex might not be everything but it registers higher (90 percent) on the “importance scale” if it’s a source of frustration in your relationship. If your sex life is unfulfilled, it becomes a gigantic issue. On the other hand, couples that have satisfying sex lives rate sex at only 10 percent on the “importance scale.”

    Sex is the crucible in which the relationship is fired in and which fires it up and sustains it when good.

  3. @ SJF

    I only made it through the first 30 minutes of the red man video so far. It’s at the top of my ” to do list ” with breakfast tomorrow.

    Rollo was stressing the same things I strongly believe regarding sex long term.

    Lol, my Game skill, Red Pill are about to be tested as my wife has entered menopause. So far, nothing but her attitude has shown any changes, and she’s fighting against mood swings like she’s fighting off possession by a demon. But I understood fully that this day was coming, and confidence is high. I have a hundred pound bag of comfort stashed away for her ( and only 25 pounds of indifference. Judicious application only ).

    I’m still getting my morning rides, except now there’s more kissing and caressing and less hair pulling and spanking.😁 Intimacy isn’t overrated.

    Just another part of a journey together. Having a real, true and solid foundation can’t be overstressed. Otherwise, don’t ever bother.

  4. “…and she’s fighting against mood swings like she’s fighting off possession by a demon..”

    I’ve been advised that This Too Shall Pass. After the phase of possession by the demon (otherwise known as pituitary hormones over-driving because of lack of ovarian hormones) the thing is that massaging the mind of the female will result in lack of the desert in regards to sexual desire. She’ll get through it and still be turned on by a masculine male after menopause because of you. Have faith. And that which you desire will come to you. But it not an article of inner intention a desire. It is an article of you not to want or hope, it is you intending. Things will come in line. And you choose what comes. It will come if you intend to act.

    I have no needs for intimacy. I have a baseline need for sex. She requires intimacy. But that is a simple need in her. To be desired. No Big Deal. She’ll get over it and that Demon will pass.

    She’ll get fiercer and stronger. And be still fuckable.

    Hey allow your older wife her Magic that she has. That is desirable. Because it is. Happy Easter:

    https://therationalmale.com/2016/06/16/late-life-hypergamy/comment-page-2/#comment-160309

  5. @Sentient, @EhIntellect, et al

    I have a different perspective on @Marquis’ FR.

    The starfish spontaneously becoming desire sex smells. Cheating will re-ignite a woman’s dormant libido, and as “a high tide raises all boats”, the husband typically focuses on his new found bounty and will not question his wife’s out of characteristic behavior as the fed flag it should be.

    @Marquis is not getting desire sex because he’s bringing his A-game, he’s getting laid either as a smoke screen or as an indirect consequence of wifey’s rediscovery that she’s a sexual being..

    I could be completely full of shit, but my spidey sense is tingling on this one. A woman who is usually dead from the waist down does not suddenly start giving her career beta husband porn star sex. This. Does. Not. Compute.

  6. Regardless, stay & go plans are the same.

    @Marquis needs to get his shit together, regain his MPoO ,and reconnect to his passion.

  7. @Chump
    It sure sounds like one of those key items on that Cheatin’ Checklist … but even so, maybe it presents an opportunity for a turnaround in the relationship. Puts the ball back in play

  8. Has anyone else noticed that Jessica Mendoza really is right smack on the Mendoza Line for females? In terms of hb and will/won’t? Like Mario Mendoza hitting .201 every year?

  9. Oh, and making it through my spam filter was an ad for the handy dandy Bust-A-Cheater. Give it any phone number and it’ll supposedly tell you who your faithless spouse has been texting. Probably cheaper than a drone…

  10. Just to clarify some things.

    We do not have starfish sex, and we never have. The sex has generally been bad and infrequent yes (at times approaching dead bedroom levels in the past) but not because she was unenthusiastic or didn’t want to have sex with me. It’s a messy background involving her sexual inexperience, a period of ED for me early in the relationship and compounding factors – the details are in that old post I linked.

    Laid on top of that dynamic you also see the usual story where I started off alpha in her eyes, she did everything for me, was in my frame and then I got betaized especially after children. But whenever we’ve had sex, she’s been an active and enthusiastic participant, I can’t remember an occasion (maybe once) when she didn’t get off, and she’s initiated at least as often as I have – it’s easily 50/50, if not even slightly in her favour. She’s also always been very clear on what she wants in bed and what she likes and what she wants me to do.

    The difference on Friday night wasn’t that she was more into it than before. It was that she was a bit more directive about what she wanted and more importantly she was much more verbal about what she was fantasising about and what she wanted me to do to her and what turned her.

    I went through the cheating checklist that was posted earlier – she is clear on the vast majority of points and there have been no recent changes in behaviour. The only significant risk factor is the business travel and the upcoming trip she wants to do alone. Even the business travel has been increasing organically as her work load has increased in the last couple of years.

    Nothing is guaranteed in life, but if I had to bet I would think that what Sentient and IRL said is probably the right answer. That she is giving me a pathway to follow and it is up to me to take it, and simultaneously it is clear that (if I don’t follow the path), I am dropping down her priority list and at some point the stars will align and she probably will cheat, because the circumstances have been set up that way.

    As someone, maybe “Blaximus” said, there are always warning signs to “cucksville” and it seems I am getting an early warning when it is still possible to turn things around. She has actually expressed quite explicit dissatisfaction with the sex life. Not recently, but many times in the past, all about how I’m so “vanilla” and “boring” in bed. But on the other hand I had plenty of the adoring glance stuff after sex on Friday night. It’s still nowhere near as good as I’ve had with Tinder hookups where I take control fully, because my wife isn’t used to me doing that, but we are definitely improving.

    As for how to do turn things around, I’ve made progress on both lifting (which has noticed and commented on) and our financial security (which she doesn’t know about) and in general we have a constant ongoing frame battle. I think Sentient said a few months ago that I need to up the alpha and push the boundaries hard and accept this will cause a major blowup at some point before it will settle back down to a new equilibrium that I am happy with.

    Plan of Action: Keep Moving Forward On All Fronts. Crucially, DON’T back away from a big blowup (but not necessary to actively provoke it either) and come out the other side stronger.

  11. I also want to add that I try to focus on action instead of repeating the same questions online again and again, which is why I only check in here every few months, even though the sanity check I get here is always valuable.

    So, barring any major blowups with the wife, I won’t be posting again for a few months. I’ll just be doing my shit and moving forward.

    I may post an update of my annual father-son holiday with my son though, because that’s coming up soon and I had some great suggestions for it when we did the holiday last year for the first time.

  12. @TheMarquis

    After he righted the company, Jobs began taking his “top 100” people on a retreat each year. On the last day, he would stand in front of a whiteboard (he loved whiteboards, because they gave him complete control of a situation and they engendered focus) and ask, “What are the 10 things we should be doing next?” People would fight to get their suggestions on the list. Jobs would write them down—and then cross off the ones he decreed dumb. After much jockeying, the group would come up with a list of 10. Then Jobs would slash the bottom seven and announce, “We can only do three.”

  13. @Marquis

    I just cucked a guy this weekend. I was at a party when the hottest girl I’ve seen in a long time walked in.

    She immediately started giving me IOI’s. My game was tight and long story short, within 90 minutes of meeting her we were making out in the elevator.

    Then as I was trying to find a taxi to bring her back to my place she blurted out: “I will regret not going home with you but I’m staying with my boyfriend…i guess that won’t last much longer….”

    I pulled her into an alley and finger banged her and with logistics so bad—rats running around the alley, cleaners walking around at 1:30am–I didn’t bang her.

    I left and texted: “Touch yourself and think of me”

    Her; I know you will be thinking of me

    Me: Text when you’re back so i know the rats didn’t get you

    Her: I will miss you

    Me: To be continued

    This shit reads like a movie script. She was so up for it.

    So whatever you’re doing or think you’re doing if she’s checked off the majority of cheating traits…she has.

    The sex you’re getting is guilt sex…plausible deniability sex…buying time sex…

  14. Re: Marquis

    “She’s also always been very clear on what she wants in bed and what she likes and what she wants me to do.”

    Major fucking fail.

  15. Marquis —

    Hate to say it, but … it is quite common for women, when they are cheating or about to get involved in cheating, to sex up the boyfriend or husband to put him off the trail, so to speak. It’s very common, for example, for a wife to fuck her husband later the same day she fucks her lover — for the same reason. If anything, given everything else you got going on there, the sudden uptick in friskiness is, yep, another red flag for you. Sorry, man.

  16. Wala-wala

    Sentient had an FR similar though his logistics were better, finger banged her to orgasm plus her post coitis inhibition extinguished his opportunity.

    An orgasmic finger bang is giving more value than she’s willing to give after orgasm. Performing sexually Beta (not that was your objective), i.e. cunnilingus past orgasm, is still hindbrain Beta and she got hers.

    Cool FR though. Well done. I’ve never had an >7 go overt on me. Food for my thoughts.

  17. Re: Marquis

    “Crucially, DON’T back away from a big blowup (but not necessary to actively provoke it either…”

    He’s fearfully avoiding the hard work that must be done to improve. Marquis says: “Keep Moving Forward On All Fronts.” and in the next breath says he’s gonna sit on his hands and let a wounded marriage heal itself.

    This dude is a waking example of the dangers of BP thought. I can lead from behind idiocy.

    Marquis: I have routine bad sex, but it’s ok. And I’ll tell you why….and we had good sex so I’ll mention that as something novel, to prove the YEARS of bad sex is irrelavant.

    See, guys! Nothing to see here, move along, talk about something else because I’m leaving as all is well.

    https://youtu.be/zDAmPIq29ro

  18. @Novaseeker
    it is quite common for women, when they are cheating or about to get involved in cheating, to sex up the boyfriend or husband to put him off the trail, so to speak

    Sounds like a great strategy for hiding who the real father is too.

  19. “It’s very common, for example, for a wife to fuck her husband later the same day she fucks her lover.”

    Again, a good friend had been cucked for months by this technique.

    She’d be out of town to visit friends, parents for the weekend, he be with the kids. He called on her once and the parents friends ran interference for her.

    He gets a clue, checks the odometer and the 150 mile trip actually was 5.

    Oh yes, she’d fuck him good before and after each weekend getaway.

    His kids ended up messed up (daughter lipstick lesbian, son low calibre Alpha struggling to stay out of trouble) from all his attempts to fight, fight, fight the system. Nobody won anything except self-righteous indignation, a deep cynacsm and hatred of each other.

  20. “Nevertheless, women are in denial in regard to male vulnerability. Becoming aware would disrupt their illusion of safety. In general, men reach the threshold of death by heartache faster than women, who have evolved to endure more emotional pain.”

    Higgs Boson – Maybe women, generally, aren’t really exposed to ‘illusions’ around safety. Maybe women, generally, are quite attuned to, and adept at, sussing out any changing conditions around their own personal security circumstances. As such, maybe women, generally, are actually quite adept at responding to said changes, by way of attempts towards manipulating the conditions of said circumstances. That’s what it looks like to me.

    ‘Male vulnerability’? Vulnerability means being in the state whereby one is exposed to potential harm. What harm? Potential loss of respect? Or potential loss of security? If you see it as potential loss of security, ….. as a man, what makes you more secure? Respect from others – yes?

    So ….. are women, generally, in denial in regards to male vulnerability, so defined? I don’t think so. It looks like to me that women actually have keen senses around that (thus the ever-present female status-sorting operation).

    See – its like this: As a man, any real empathy ones receives (from other men or from particularly perceptive women, which is both rather uncommon in the larger social sphere, but, if you are lucky, might be available by way of your family and your partner) is gonna be about concerns for your ability to garner the respect you need to shore-up your own personal security. Even for genuine empathy – It’s always going to be conditional like that. And likewise, any real empathy a woman receives is gonna be about concerns for her ability to give genuine respect in a way that will shore-up her own personal security. Likewise – always conditional like that.

    If you are lucky you might have a few people around you, like I said above, that truly do wish the best for you. These ‘lovers of you’ might even help you see possible pathways towards that, that you yourself must execute, as outlined above.

    1. @Wild Man

      Perception varies according to masculine or feminine lens, evolution and personality type. Differences can be perceived as boundaries. For some, boundaries are walls. For others, they are doors.

  21. @Eh Intellect

    Was a great night…hot girl..solid all the way but logistics were terrible…

    The alley was near a high traffic area and full of rats…

    That added to her wetness no doubt and the memories…

    For me it was “to be continued…”

    That line just came to me as being better than anything gamey in response to her saying she’ll miss me…

  22. To be continued…

    It’s ok. A little thirsty though you let your hands do the talking when it counted.

  23. Lately been in few conversations how game can become overcommunication irt having a algorithm type play for every scenario. Wanting to show her (and myself) that for every action there’s a reaction.

    IMHO, saying nothing when you’re in that sweetspot is best. She already knows your all that. Enjoy the moment and remain outcome independent.

    Fun.

  24. “Perception varies according to masculine or feminine lens, evolution and personality type. Differences can be perceived as boundaries. For some, boundaries are walls. For others, they are doors.”

    Higgs Boson – I like your nuance here. I think maybe you are referencing ‘perception’ here, in response to the way I used it above …… ‘particularly perceptive women’, (or men, for that matter) ….. may be in the position to provide one with genuine empathy (of course that genuine empathy is also conditional upon said person also enjoying/suffering-from the ‘lover of you’ dynamic).

    If I am reading you right – yes – alot has to go right for genuine empathy to actually occur, in my estimation. ‘Love’, to me, is like a wish for boundary disintegration/penetration, yet respecting that personal boundary nevertheless. The most sublime high-wire act and the source of so much beauty in this world, though often so fleeting.

    1. @Wild Man

      Masculinity is a paradox to me, the unknowable X factor. My soul feels what my mind can’t comprehend, and is enlightened by the energy.

  25. @Eh Intellect

    “To be continued”

    Isn’t thirsty when she’s telling me she misses me…

    The girl has been thrown against a wall in a back alley and bit my lips so hard it drew blood…she was dtf…

    The danger of over gaming this with some pua cocky funny line like “I know” is that girls love the drama…she’s seen the dominant side now to keep this pot boiling she needs someone real…not love struck or beta but Someone who gets her but doesn’t see her the dirty slut she was..

    Also the boyfriend waiting up for me stuff … calibration is key… she needs the allure of something vague on future without the concreteness of what that would be:

    To be continued…

  26. Eh

    The thing about the learning of ” codified ” game is that it’s supposed to be an initial learning tool that the practitioner learns, internalises, personalises and moves on. Guys seem to get way to hung up on the constant analysis and down in the weeds work.

    That codification make explaining processes to others easier, but I cannot help but think that it subtracts something from normal interactions. Guys become robotic rather than natural.

    I’ve read bits and pieces of MM that yareally linked me to, and of course I watched every Rsd video he linked as well. But I always felt that there was something significant missing.

    It’s fascinating stuff to read though, but at times to me it seems like reinventing the wheel and getting just a little to excited/invested by it.

    I have a nephew that loves cars ( imagine that..) And I once drove his 700 HP dodge Challenger. Now, he can recite from memory every technical thing about that car, and is more than happy to constantly do do. We went for a spirited drive with me in the drivers seat, and I happened to comment on the ” feel ” of the torque band detecting a very slight hesitation on acceleration. I asked what gas he was putting in the car and suggested a different brand.

    He thought for a moment, then asked me ” how do you feel torque?” And ” how did you sense any hesitation? “. Thing is, no one can question that he has a knowledge base that’s damn near unparalleled for that specific car. His experience with it though, is mostly clinical and technical. There’s an aspect of experience that he’s completely missing – pure unadulterated” joy ” from all of that technical understanding.

    After our 100 mile round trip, much of it at tire smoking, fishtailing triple digit speeds, I smiled for the remainder of the evening. 700 horses. Glorious stuff. But my nephew was rather blase.I toldmhim that he should exercise those ponies under the hood, but he didn’t see a real need to do that regularly because that’s not why he purchased the act ( !!!!!!!!!! ).

    😕

    He shoulda bought a fuxking Prius.

  27. Kfg

    I think it’s a stimulus processing issue of some sort. He had to feel his body being compressed into his seat, but it wasn’t registering properly, or because in all of his research/reading, ” how torque feels ” was never mentioned.

  28. “She’s also always been very clear on what she wants in bed and what she likes and what she wants me to do.”

    The wife is leading in bed. That’s not good because it’s frustrating for her. The husband doesn’t “get it.” He ought to just act and give commands. That’s what the wife wants.

  29. @wala-wala

    I glad you brought it up, as it was quite germane to Marquis inability to read his woman + denial, and I threw a softball at you, as the commnication discussion often devolves into, as Blax wrote, robotics. 1+1 can = 0 or 2 or 3.

    I liked your over gaming comment. Game is good, but more game isn’t better.

    Enter Blax’s comment.

    How do we know an shy, introverted woman wants the D? I assume they all do but I must feel for it, the moment, then lead.

    I don’t express myself well sometimes though I take issue with the “feelings aren’t reality” saw that I’ve read here and there.

  30. I think it’s a stimulus processing issue of some sort.”

    Believe it or not, it’s going on in cycling right now too. The current crop of sport cyclists have grown up “IFR.” Even how hard they are working is now a matter of reading numbers from an instrument. Turn the numbers off and they’re lost.

    Hence, the hot new field of training is teaching them about something called “sensations” (and I wish I were making this up), how to feel them and what to do with them.

    It’s a Brave New World.

  31. Feelings are subjective pertinent reality. I don’t subscribe to a man divorcing himself completely from feelings and emotions.

    When my uncles were teaching me to fish as a young boy, at a point they kept referring to learning to ” feel the fish “. Then uncle Albert ( we’re soo sorry…) Kept admonishing me to ” hold your mouth right “, which bought chuckles from all present and disdain from me for being made fun of. It took a while and a dozen fish caught before I ever began to grasp what they were communicating to me.

    Over in the field reports, j said something about things going wrong after pulling a girl from the ” club “. Imo, this is operating purely from the technical standpoint, and misses the importance of feelz. She isn’t operating technically. Things go wrong when you aren’t attuned to feelz.

    Awareness and understanding is just as important, most times, as technical ability and understanding. Improvisation is king, routine is pawn.

  32. “feelings aren’t reality”

    Subjectivity is objective. That is to say that feelings exist. If one becomes so focused on the objective that feelings are discounted, one falls into subjectivity in one’s objectivity. There’s a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.

    When she yells, “Well they’re real to me” she’s telling you something real. Something you should pay attention to.

  33. “When she yells, “Well they’re real to me” she’s telling you something real. ”

    And that’s how to fine tune a marriage.

    That’s exactly what I did. I accepted her feelings as reality and trusted my feelings more than logicalizing my way through it.

  34. Mrs. knew there was something inauthentic to my game after knowing me so long. She’d rather had authentic and predictably unstable than me with a game vaneer.

    Until I squared that circle the testing was severe.

    If she didn’t know me, I’d of been fine with PUA. Hell, that’s how I picked her up.”

    Got number, went on a bike ride and made out. With the week I was in.

  35. Re Marquis situation

    Here is why I think she probably hasn’t yet cheated:

    “When we were done she lay against me and said “I love you so much..sometimes I forget how much..we’re meant to be together” and “we should do this more often”.”

    If she where screwing another guy, she’d have more disdain for him. so yeah she could (and it does happen) be hopped up from her liaison or want to smokescreen, but that is accomplished via sex. she wouldn’t need to lay this on.

    However if she was longing for him to “get it” and fix Teh Sex… this is the kind of think she would say, having had some relief that things where not as bleak as she feared.

    Remember women are AS BP as men, if not more. So many are suffering in silence, afraid of their own thoughts and appetites. Really having no idea how to fix things, especially in the bedroom.

    MMSL was filled with these women, usually of Low T husbands.

    Marquis this all does NOT mean you get a pass or she isn’t close to doing it!

  36. @TheMarquis

    Nothing is guaranteed in life, but if I had to bet I would think that what Sentient and IRL said is probably the right answer. That she is giving me a pathway to follow and it is up to me to take it, and simultaneously it is clear that (if I don’t follow the path), I am dropping down her priority list and at some point the stars will align and she probably will cheat, because the circumstances have been set up that way.

    this is most likely true… buuut, that is ALWAYS true… IF you can read the signs properly (ie RP aware…)… girls always tell you what they need/want… you just have to be able to ‘hear’ it…

    i’ve been sort of following along with your situ… for all the guys here saying that ‘she’s already cheated’… they really don’t know…lol… but neither do you… if you really don’t think she has cheated yet… and that pov is not informed by BP cluelessness/wishful thinking, then she probably hasn’t… yet…

    but she’s seems to be on that trajectory… and so you need to deal with it… ASAP… and in the absence of confirmation of her actual cheating, that’s the best way to play this situ… bc otherwise, you will start pinging ‘needy subcomms’… and that shit never helped anybody in your position…

    As someone, maybe “Blaximus” said, there are always warning signs to “cucksville” and it seems I am getting an early warning when it is still possible to turn things around. She has actually expressed quite explicit dissatisfaction with the sex life.

    that’s one of those ‘hear it’ issues… see above…

    Not recently, but many times in the past, all about how I’m so “vanilla” and “boring” in bed. But on the other hand I had plenty of the adoring glance stuff after sex on Friday night.

    that’s a good sign… and you need to get a repeat on that sexual encounter ASAP… but with YOU taking charge… see below…

    It’s still nowhere near as good as I’ve had with Tinder hookups where I take control fully, because my wife isn’t used to me doing that, but we are definitely improving.

    YOU should be the one that is ‘improving’…lol… this^^^ pings like straight up BP NAWALT… bc ‘she’s a good girl’, right?…lol… she couldn’t possibly be like all those tinder sluts i’ve banged that like that sexual dominance shit!… not the mother of my children!…lol…

    AWALT… of which, wives are… sooo, YOU need to ‘pretend’ (really just swallow that RP harder and accept that she really actual IS…) that she is a tinder slut that you just picked up… treat her the same as… be completely dominant…

    and really, except for that whole ‘good girl’ thing, why wouldn’t you WANT your own personal porn star?…lol… but not kidding…

    As for how to do turn things around, I’ve made progress on both lifting (which has noticed and commented on) and our financial security (which she doesn’t know about) and in general we have a constant ongoing frame battle.

    see above… which is the best way forward for you… and should help eliminate some of those frame battles…

    I think Sentient said a few months ago that I need to up the alpha and push the boundaries hard

    see above for which boundary you need to be pushing hard…lol… and planning some logistics to ACTUALLY tie her up wouldn’t hurt you any… provided you actually DO that…lol… and don’t apologize for it… before/after… or EVER… (includes saying ‘but YOU wanted to do that!’…when she shit tests you about it… just OWN it… you know, like that type of man that wives cheat WITH…lol)

    and accept this will cause a major blowup at some point before it will settle back down to a new equilibrium that I am happy with.

    true… but you HAVE to hold your frame while things ‘settle back down’… that’s HOW you create that new equilibrium that you want…

    Plan of Action: Keep Moving Forward On All Fronts. Crucially, DON’T back away from a big blowup (but not necessary to actively provoke it either) i’m going to CREATE a big blowup by banging my wife like a dirty tinder slut… which WILL draw shit tests about it later, resulting in that big blowup… when she seeks to confirm the ‘new me’ really is that dominant… and come out the other side stronger.

    fify…lol

    good luck!

  37. I don’t subscribe to a man divorcing himself completely from feelings and emotions.

    Na na na na na…I can’t heeear youuu.

    Seriously, feelings are fine as long as you don’t let them run your life or you’ll end up a bitch. Don’t let other people manipulate you using your feelings as a lever. The other side of the coin.

    But you make a great point about being aware and observant of the feelings of others. Calibrate.

    NB:

    Autists like me frequently miss social signals even when we’re trying to pay attention. Then there’s the problem that we autists are typically very focused on some obsession or other. And there’s the problem of dealing with environmental stimuli that distract us and mask social signals. And we typically run quite a bit lower on endorphins than neurotypicals do, so we have to deal with higher levels of cortisol than neurotypicals do, which fucks up our brain chemistry.

    Strangely enough, when I’m dancing and have higher levels of endorphins than normal, I’m kind of in a fog and just in the moment and not thinking about sex even a little. It’s like an afterglow. I just feel good…a lot better than normal. Lifting does the same thing for me unless I injure myself.

    We autists have to continually work on being socially observant and figuring out work-arounds.

  38. “Masculinity is a paradox to me, the unknowable X factor. My soul feels what my mind can’t comprehend, and is enlightened by the energy.”

    Yeah – existenz here, for everyone, men and women alike – is a like ‘a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma’ (I think that was Winston Churchill).

    Higgs Boson – I dunno – to get a feel for masculinity – what it is? – good question ….. for me it’s like the type of courage that responds to, and acts upon, the manly desire to venture into the unknown so as to bring something of value back. What’s of highest value there? – the ultimate prize? I think the ultimate prize is the map of the edge, or interface, between the unknown and the unknowable – and the risks around bringing back a small part of that prize are measured in the extremes – death (maybe even time-death) and insanity (and maybe even the stopping of time itself). That’s what masculinity seems like to me.

  39. theasdgamer – I dunno – you don’t really seem autistic to me. You sure you are autistic? Maybe you are just incorrigible/stubborn in some ways and somebody, once upon a time, hung a label on you. There really isn’t much wrong with being incorrigible/stubborn (and those traits have their good points too)..

  40. “Describing a top-secret party attended by record industry executives, Bieber said he was shown into a back room where a group of men wearing masks were sitting around the edge of the room, drinking from cups. In the center of the room a dead child was sitting cross-legged, propped up against the back of a chair. It looked like a late-stage fetus and was completely drained of blood.

    “The baby’s entire scalp wasn’t there. Its skull had been stripped down to the surface of the bone. Portions of the right side of its undeveloped little face had been torn away. You could see bite marks and bruises all over its tiny body.”

    “They were wearing animal masks, sitting around drinking what they called ‘red wine.’ They offered me some. It was obvious that it was really important for them that I got involved.

    “I literally gagged at this point. One of them boasted the baby had been alive for eight hours after they started cutting it and draining its blood.”

    “When he described the pain the baby went through, he seemed pleased with himself.”

    The horrific death described by Bieber to his congregation is called “exsanguination”, otherwise known as completely draining a person of blood. The practice is popular among drinkers of baby blood who consume what they call “red wine” in order to get high on the adrenaline, young hormones, and negative energy they believe is found in the blood of children.

    They believe the more a child suffers before its death, the more “enriched” its blood will be upon harvest. Often the child is physically and sexually abused before it is killed in order to create the necessary trauma.

    Bieber refused to drink the blood and that is when “everything started going wrong.”

    “They threatened me. They said they knew Selena was pregnant. They asked if I wanted my baby to end up like the one in the center of the room.”

    beiber is blue pill and if he keeps running his mouth he’s going to end up suicided. that is a definite danger of the blue pill when you’re playing with the big boys

  41. RE: Blaximus & SJF, 04/01/18 5:35 pm & 6:01 pm

    I admire these guys for their “mind over matter” outlook on life as I tend more to pessimism than I would like, but sorry, their advice and cheer-leading on the issue of menopause is, just, STUPID!!!

    This was debated in February 2017 in “Sexual Retirement”. Since, they are not likely to take my advice, I am posting this for the benefit of others.

    Blax – if she’s 0 for 12 in shark week, then yes, it’s menopause. 100 lbs. of comfort, this is average frustrated, blue pill chump territory. Reward good behavior, punish or dis-incentivize bad behavior. Less hair pulling, why?–unless it starts coming out in clumps due to lack of hormones. Journey together, what? I thought Blax was leading this parade?

    SJF — is a successful doctor–WTF. Menopause “magic”—no! Alpha up a hormonal response? I thought SJF was a diabetic who uses hormone replacement therapy to stay alive?

  42. @Eh Intellect

    Calibration is key. Constant cocky-funny doesn’t always work. While the girl i had bounced from that party was DTF, the fact she was shacked up with her bf and was going through the “I shouldn’t be doing this but please fuck me” battle, no place to bang and a dark alley full of rodents made the whole scene more memorable for a future encounter.

    I decided not to contact her and wait to see if she reaches out to me….Her “I know you’ll think of me…” bravado was clearly a shit-test and obviously a girl that hot gets dudes orbiting her….including her cucked bf.

    @Rollo as someone who recently (3 years ago) passed that milestone I can tell you that there is a level of confidence you get IF you adopt the right mindsets (abundance, ZFG, I am the prize) that makes you even more attractive to younger girls.

    Rarely do girls I’m banging in their 20’s ever bring up my age except to tease me but never with malice…

    The age is actually part of “Comfort” while I spark attraction….they sense “experience” and that gives them a sense of ease.

  43. “…. da fuq did I just read?”

    Oh, that’s not all!
    FIRST, they played stairway to heaven backwards.
    Then, they made him eat pop rocks and soda,
    Then, they took out a kidney and wrote “don’t move and call 911! We’ve taken your kidney!”

  44. @If-I-Fell
    April 2, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    I apologize, but I forgot your narrative after you haven’t been in these woods for a while.

    I’m not sure whether your comment was a question or a statement.

    Or what the problem was.

    I think Rollo’s Sexual Retirement Essay was in essence about a woman wanting to please her man so she goes on hormone replacement therapy at menopause. But that’s generally regarded in medical circles as a temporary bridge. The woman’s body has senescence and it is not really safe to over drive the hormones. Or cancer is more likely. So hormone replacement therapy is actually waning as a thing.

    It’s the thought that counts there. The woman motivated to bridge into the beyond with hormones because she either has slight dread or wants to benefit her man.

    My wife actually did start some hormone replacement therapy from her holistic doctor, which was like topical slather your vagina with estrogen/progesterone/testosterone for the last two weeks of an alleged cycle. It didn’t seem to do much, as reported by her.

    But she is still fucking me. Or I’m fucking her and she is into it. And I like it. And it’s fun. And that makes sex only 10 percent of issues in life. So many other things are fun in the other 90%.

    Women go through menopause. And they and we deal with it. We don’t sit there and wander aimlessly through grief stages. Your wife is an asset. To you. She doesn’t automatically lose her value at menopause. And some of that is a reflection of you and who you are.

    It’s a myth that younger, hotter, tighter is the Holy Grail. 52 y.o. attractive, strong character and fuckable is not nothing.

    We’re not putting lipstick on a pig. We’re not squandering value when value is had.

    So what was your actual point of comment If-I-Fell? I’m not going to all the suddenly stop being a shiny happy person or lack DPA just because my wife went menopausal. And is still fucking alive and kicking. Although I guess you have to be here.

  45. “I thought SJF was a diabetic who uses hormone replacement therapy to stay alive?”

    Correct. My last Glyco-Hemoglobin (HgA1C) was 6.0.

    Which is a tribute to motivation. The Sexual Retirement Essay was a tribute to motivation.

    Stay Motivated, My Friends.

  46. It’s a myth that younger, hotter, tighter is the Holy Grail. 52 y.o. attractive, strong character and fuckable is not nothing.

    My last Glyco-Hemoglobin (HgA1C) was 6.0.

    Oh, I forgot to mention: Don’t Try This At Home. Unless you are Masterful/Apex/Elite.

  47. @Rugby

    You’ve posted 10 videos….all quite random…on this page alone. It makes it hard to download the page and see what other posters are commenting. We’ve gone through this dude….

    Dude have you given any thought to starting your own blog? Then you can post random videos and your thoughts about them and seek commentary.

    We’ve talked about this dude. Please try to follow the thread or the theme. No one can possibly watch all those videos AND comment on fellow posters’ thoughts.

    Stop and read the comments before vomiting a stream of consciousness in the form of random videos that you like but that no one here could possibly digest.

    A post really should be no more than 50 words and related in some way to the theme or offering insights into other posters’ comments.

  48. If-I-Fell

    Long time no see bro.

    Lol, I’m well aware of my wife’s menopausal status, so no guessing required. We’ve discussed this time a while ago. Yes, I provide my wife comfort when necessary. I happen to care about her very much, and I know how and when to do this without venturing into AFC territory. That ain’t even gonna happen.

    I guess I asked for it when I talked about hair pulling and spanking – ha ha haaaa – well I guess I deserve the advice. My wife and I are still in pretty good shape for 50’s ( me 56, her just turned 50 ). In fact I’d venture to say that we are in better shape physically than the majority of our social circle, including many of the 20-30 somethings. Like Rollo, my wife and I aren’t keen on letting ourselves ” go ” as we get older, so yeah, the sex is still highly spirited. In fact it’s pretty much the same as it was in our 30’s ( her 30, me 35 when we consummated ).

    We still have coitus..lol… usually right around 3 times a week. Sometimes more, sometimes less. About a month ago, she began feeling ” not like herself “. She was always hot and was getting more easily fatigued. We both knew what was happening. After 20 years together, and I mean together as man and wife, not mortal enemies living under the same roof, I understand/empathize with what she must be experiencing. I have a fairly decent understanding of anatomy, biology and hormonal stuff, so I know what’s physically happening to her.

    One key for me during the marriage was in understanding and ” calibrating ” – for lack of a better descriptor – when to comfort my wife. I’ve never been a hard nosed asshole with most women that matter to me, and one of the benefits of being my wife as opposed to a snl or fuckbuddy or even girlfriend, is that I will actually want to know how you’re feeling and if you could use some comforting. Nobody else can/will do it. Especially over decades.

    So, no AFC here. Lol. I got this shit.

  49. But, OTOH, Successful Risk Taker is one of Mystery’s five Attraction Switches.

    And Pussies don’t actually shrivel up at menopause.

    And only a few men can actually keep Frame enough to enjoy an Anna Karenina Principle Happy Family. Which is actually a Thing.

  50. Real quick before I move on to Rollo’s next OP –

    I fully realize AWALT as a fact of life. I’ve always contended that it is by degree.

    Having said that, I don’t spend a lot of time with the usual feministic, strong-independent, run of the mill types, and I definitely would NEVER marry one. Vet vet vet.

    Hence, my experiences have been different than many men I read in the sphere. I don’t have patience with a lot of ” normal ” shitty routine behaviors that lots of women exhibit. I walk right by those women…maybe after dicking them, but still.

    Action speaks. 20 years in, and not much has changed towards the negative. Anything is possible, but my woman would have to suffer a severe head trauma at this point to drastically change. Little variance, no unpredictable crazy ass personality flips in 20 years.

    This too, as SJF says, will pass.

  51. …. I went to highschool with a guy whose wife stabbed him in the chest 7 times. I, on the other hand, don’t have to hide the cutlery.

  52. Although, despite what I said earlier, just now my wife is whining that I fucked her three times in four days and her vagina cannot handle that. Because it is sore.

  53. @SJF, Blaximus

    With HRT, Mrs. Blaximus could be a more enjoyable mate NOW and for the near future. Plus, he might enjoy the version of the wife that he married for a while longer. I cannot prove this but there is an effect that is cumulative over the period of time that a woman has been menopausal. Blax says he understands that the cycling woman that he married is not coming back, but I don’t know if one can really understand this until they have experienced it first-hand.

    As you use hormone replacement therapy, it seemed ironic to me that you would be pro “go natural”.

    One of the issues raised concerning The Marquis, was, regardless of what his wife is doing or not doing, was he living his best life possible NOW. His response was that he was going to wait until his kids are grown, and not split with their mother. That’s a valid choice, but he’s trading the present for the future. Who knows about the future—it may not come. Well, that’s the point.

    PS: I guess it’s my fault for not being more memorable. For example, I attended this church for about 5 years and spoke to the minister quite often, as I was making a last-ditch effort to find Jesus. Anyway, he retired a few years ago. I ran into him at the Hardware Store, I looked him straight in the eye and recognized him immediately. He looked right through me. I thought, it’s not worth my time, and I left him to his reverie. I count this as a part of the curse of being INTP.

  54. If I fell,

    I remember you clearly. You were hashing through employer woes and gingerly getting your game on during a work conference when you got scared and bolted.

    Welcome back.

  55. If I fell,

    ” I guess it’s my fault for not being more memorable.”

    Stop getting off on your own masochism.

  56. “For example, I attended this church for about 5 years and spoke to the minister quite often, as I was making a last-ditch effort to find Jesus. Anyway, he retired a few years ago. I ran into him at the Hardware Store, I looked him straight in the eye and recognized him immediately. He looked right through me. I thought, it’s not worth my time, and I left him to his reverie. I count this as a part of the curse of being INTP.”

    If you’re is in a position where you encounter a lot of people on the day to day, it can be difficult to place them (especially if it’s out of context, for example the hardware store). Lots of faces look familiar, but if you’re seeing familiar faces all the time it’s often really difficult to remember who is who and where you’ve seen them. By contrast, everyone will know who you are immediately.

  57. @ EhIntellect and Anon,

    Thanks, I needed that. Everything Solitary Silver Fox said and more. I have been making an effort not to “hash” as it focuses on, “What the world is doing to me, instead of What I am doing to the world.” As for the minister story, I was trying to make a point while tired and grumpy. I’ll just say that work people are shit testing me close to the end of my patience, and for now I have to take it. When I read a statement, based on this negative mindset it sounded like, “Oh, and what did you say your name was again?” Well, it’s pretty obvious that I broke Iron Rule #9. As for the minister, our relationship was over and in this case all acquaintance should be forgot.

  58. If I fell,

    Keep on keeping on.

    Your doom is nigh thus I hate reading you dumping on irrelevancies. You think you’ll give a chickenshit in 5 years about what happens today?

    I get that tired affecting your mood stuff though.

    When I’ve was ultrastressed out legally last year I fucked myself happy. No joke. I drank a bit but mostly fucked, fucked, fucked my little engine up that hill. “I think I can, I think I can, I think I can …”

    I never had more sex, didn’t care of it was at worst starfish, it was for my mental health.

    Prescription for happiness: Take 2 blowjobs and call me in the morning.

    Again, no joke. I might be simplifying your situation as I’m not the creative type.

  59. Ho ho ho

    I was this guy until three years ago when I left my BPD wife. No really, she actually is.

    Thing was, during our myriad conflicts she would stop receiving and only send. Yell, scream, rant. This effective technique of throwing up an impenetrable wall of sound, only stopping hastily to draw breath. Or occasionally after ten minutes of constructing her own explanation of things, asking me how I could defend the transgressions she had presented at length.

    She didn’t even register what I said, she just heard the tone of my voice. If I answered in anger, she would cut me off and keep screaming for another half hour. I actually tried throwing in non sequitur some times to see if that would stump her, but she didn’t register.

    I guess I could have “alphaed” her with my fist, but that was not really an option. First of all it would mean I would lose EVERYTHING. Second, she has belts in four martial arts and is almost as big and strong as me.

    So yes, I have hurt myself. Out of frustration. When curling up in fetal position did not stop her screaming. I’m about to get treatment for PTSD, I hope it will stop my stress spasms.

    Why did I not leave earlier? Answer: I had nowhere to go and we had a baby (that I ultimately fled with). I did not dare to leave them alone together. We are currently fighting an ugly custody battle. She plays the “I was scared of him” card, but I don’t think anyone believes her since she just can’t stop bragging about her own magnificence given every opportunity.

    Don’t stick it in the crazy. It’s like riding a tiger – hilarous until the tiger loses its temper and bites your head off. A a fantastic friend but a terrible enemy.

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