Dangers of the Blue Pill

This clip arrived in my Twitter stream a couple of days ago and I was going to dismiss it until I read through some of the comments about this guy on the ensuing Twitter thread. I’m going to give you my take on what I think is really going on here and then I’ll contrast this with how other viewers interpreted this incident. I was about to pass on this until the conversation really made this an interesting social experiment.

I have seen things like this before. Remember, for the better part of my ‘real job’ career I’ve been around a lot of people who are socializing and drinking. I watch guys pick up women, I watch women pick up guys, and I’ve seen a lot of couples argue in public. One thing that these couples all have in common (or at least 90% of them) is the guy trying his damnedest to get his girlfriend/wife to ‘come around to him’. As you may guess, the majority of these men were Betas who ‘just didn’t get it‘ and were appealing to their woman’s reason in order to resolve whatever it is that was making her turn off to him.

Again, most of these guys were oblivious to the fact that their trying to reason with her was only emphasizing the fact that he just didn’t get it, and that she was paired off with a guy who needed to be told how to get it.

The guy with the capacity to call a woman’s bluff with a confidence that implies she is to be worthy of him rather than the other way around is the Man to be competed for. Essentially the ‘chick speak’, ‘chick advice’ phenomenon is a shit test writ large on a social scale. And even your own mother and sisters are in on it, expecting you to ‘get it’; to get the message and see the challenge for what it really is, without overtly telling you.

She want’s you to ‘get it’ on your own, without having to be told how. That initiative and the experience needed to have had developed it makes you a Man worth competing for. Women despise a man who needs to be told to be dominant. Overtly relating this to a guy entirely defeats his credibility as a genuinely dominant male. The guy she wants to fuck is dominant because that’s ‘the way he is’ instead of who she had to tell him to be.

Observing the process will change it. This is the root function of every shit test ever devised by a woman. If masculinity has to be explained to a man, he’s not the man for her.

I have been this guy before. I’m not happy to admit that, but in my 20s, during the time I was with the BPD girl she made a habit of airing out her insane jealousy, insecurities and general relationship disorders as publicly as possible. When this becomes a way of life for a guy it changes you and particularly when it’s part of a woman’s personal neurosis. At that point in my life I had fallen very Beta (almost Omega by Vox’s standards) and I made all of the same mistakes I see guys in this predicament make when I’m working. I also know better than to try to correct these guys, because, like myself, they can get really hostile towards you or themselves when you point out the obvious to them.

So, a couple of caveats here; I don’t know for sure what’s transpired before or after this incident, and I have no idea if the guy is imbalanced (I’m being polite). It could be him, it could be her, likely it’s both, but I do know the patterns and I can see that the guy will resort to self-injury to make a point. This is a classic expression of Blue Pill Beta frustration with a girl.

The girl could be blameless and he’s just a nerdy Blue Pill Beta reacting to his frustration in not understanding how to resolve whatever it is that set him off with her. I’ve watched a lot of guys in the ‘Gamer’ social set who fall into this type. They buy into the “open communication is the key to everything” ideal that the Blue Pill told them women want, so when that ‘open communication’ is actually the reason for his problems he gets frustrated. Women are supposed to be reasonable, co-equal egalitarian agents in a relationship and when his appeals to that reason are ineffective, what’s left for the kid?

Again, this is me speculating. What we do know is his reaction. Imagine if this guy had actually broken the window and cut himself (and maybe a few bystanders) to ribbons. I mention this because it’s the reaction I’d expect from the Blue Pill mind that makes a guy believe that killing or hurting himself will in someway emphasize the seriousness with which he wants to resolve the issue he believes is crucial to his happiness with a woman. This is one of the main reasons I’ve always said kill the Beta before it kills you. There’s a very real danger that a Beta mindset will lead to you or someone else’s injury or death.

I’m actually inclined to think that the incident was his own doing though. She seems indifferent to him even after the head bang, but likely that might be due to embarrassment. She’s certainly frustrated with his attempts to get her to “listen to him”.

I’ve mentioned this before, but as women have become more self-assured about their own personal safety they feel more secure in provoking physical altercations. I understand that women love to say that they feel threatened by men all the time, or they have to always think about their personal safety no matter where they are, but I really don’t see this in real life – certainly not at my own promos. In fact it’s quite the opposite. I have seen women on many occasions (both drunk and sober) deliberately instigate confrontations that never needed to be started. All of them did so from a feeling of invulnerability because they know that no man would dare to actually assault her while she could wail on him with impunity. I think this is a new social trend with women today. They understand that if the guy she was hitting actually hit back there would be half a dozen men in the room who would beat his ass for raising a fist, much less his voice, to her. Women know the power that an opportunity to defend a woman has over men; it’s a confirmation of the old social contract that women still expect men to adhere to.

I’ve also seen women start altercations with other women in the same confidence that her man will fight the other woman’s man if the two of them get into a fight. They do so by appealing to their man’s Alphaness (or lack thereof) and having her back no matter what – even when she’s being stupid, catty or drunk. It’s kind of a new play on the ‘Lets you and him fight’ social convention, but if cooler heads prevail and one or both men pull their women away from the other they just look like pussies or less than men. Again, this is one more way women can socially reserve their bestowing or confirming manhood on a man.

Is any of this happening here? Likely no, but it’s important to remember these things in context with incidents like this. That’s important, because a few of the female readers of this Twitter thread seemed to think that, rather than his kid being a potentially terminal Beta, he had the potential to be an abuser. In fact this was their first impression. I guess I can sort of see this from a woman’s perspective, but I really think the Sisterhood Über Alles kicks in when women see something like this. Always take the woman’s side first.

I think women see this through the girl’s eyes. They understand what she’s going through in having the guy try to ‘logic’ her into understanding. They understand the girl’s frustration at just having to deal with this Beta.

https://twitter.com/yourpacrat/status/975455414568587264

I’ve probably done a really bad job at this, but my intent here is not to beat this guy up over this whole thing. When I first watched this clip I thought, “Yep, been there, done that”, and like this guy I was in my 20s when I did. It seems like this is something men must learn for themselves as part of their unplugging. I think one thing that makes unplugging more difficult today is that the stakes are so much higher when a guy just ‘doesn’t get it’. There are guys who never get past any of these Blue Pill trials because they make bad decisions that seemed logical or profound at the time and they have to live with the consequences for failing that Blue Pill trial.

I would bet that this guy is still with this girl today. Even with this going slightly viral I doubt he’s learned anything from the experience and I’m sure he’s still trying to figure out how to make this pudgy little HB 3 happy. His head bang against a window (which he had no idea was plexiglass) is really a manifestation of his own self-loathing. He wont hit her, he’ll hurt himself to make his point. This is what guys like this have been taught, to express his emotions, but in this instance that emotion is angst and frustration.

It’s easy to think that guys like this are too far gone. It’s easy for guys who’ve been Red Pill aware for a long time to dismiss Beta behaviors that they were also subject to, but have been so far removed from now that they think shit like this doesn’t happen.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Folks claim ” Christian ” but speak like the damn devil. Lol. It’s common. I just like to remind them of what they ( supposedly ) already know if they were taught the teachings of Christ. ~Blaximus Hear it from me, someone’s that’s been dead, experienced it and it affects everything I do, someone that’s been told for decades “YOU’RE GOING TO HELL because of your work in Hollywood” (I let time limits pass on ALL on camera deals and I never used my real name in the high paying voice work my voice was known for) someone that’s spent… Read more »

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Well, I for one am grateful that Israel bombed those nuclear plants in the Middle East.
And if our stupid asses hadn’t been occupying Iraq, Iran wouldn’t have full-up nuclear capability either.

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Women in your immediate sphere have as much agency as you give them.

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I don’t often quote PBS, but … “Neil Simon is the world’s most successful playwright. He has had dozens of plays and nearly as many major motion pictures produced. He has been showered with more Academy and Tony nominations than any other writer, and is the only playwright to have four Broadway productions running simultaneously. His plays have been produced in dozens of languages, and have been blockbuster hits from Beijing to Moscow.” So don’t XD quite so loudly Of course I’ll give Shakespeare the top spot, but never tire of reminding my Bard-crazed LTR that Simon (Neil, not M!)… Read more »

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IMO these cult women, and all ladies to some extent, have agency, though assume none of the responsibility. Nothing new there.

Feminine women see no contradictions in that, feel no guilt in their poor decisions. It’s the same capricious, attractive, freewheeling love of life that I want in the women in my sphere. Consider them kittens.

Female solipsism can work in men’s benefit too and up to us to promote that as much as possible. I hope you experience it too.

Feminity is best served hot and spiked with booze. Guten Appetit.

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Arthur Miller was no slouch…
People don’t really make fun of the kids stumbling off the short bus. They just feel sorry for them.
Take it as a compliment.

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OBIT Neil Simon has better PR folks… @ll Today’s game lesson… Preselection. And once you are in the swim, you are in… So what to do? FIND the hot girl, and befriend her… and then rotate through her hot friends. Hot girls go in clumps. “Pat would say to the chosen woman, ‘Keith wants to spend some one on one time with you.’” And when you’re in a cult, you want to spend time with the leader. “Whatever they were doing with their lives, whether it was acting or business or a sport they were good at, they would be… Read more »

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“Pimp Mack” any relation to Dr Mack?
It’s all starting to come together….

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Jews, for various reasons, did not really dabble in the literature of entertainment until the Romantic Period. That doesn’t mean they weren’t smart or were poor writers. They were simply interested in theology, philosophy and history, although they were not beyond poetry. See the most popular omnibus of all time. So we have Jewish writers like Philo of Alexandria, Josephus and Spinoza. Still read and criticised today. When we get to the romantic period and Jews taking up literary fiction we have the likes of Kafka and Proust. Their cultural heritage does seem to have given them a bit of… Read more »

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— The Bard is clearly our best writer word for word, and his works form our top cultural referent, along with The Bible and Greek mythology. Peanuts is a distant fourth. — I WILL say one thing for Simon: Felix and Oscar are powerful dramatic archetypes. A compelling human dichotomy, a different take on Alpha/Beta or RP/BP — Judging by school curriculums, Arthur Miller clearly wins the prize as go-to 20th century dramatist. Sleeping with Marilyn Monroe clearly didn’t hurt, although she never let him brand her. Neil Simon is no doubt whipping up a warm and witty cult comedy… Read more »

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“I love mankind, it’s people I can’t stand.”

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This Keith Raniere is an interesting character. Reminds me of a guy from a mental hospital I met in my late teens that triggered my first Aha! moment. Intelligent, with a broad perspective on life, decoupled from the societal Matrix. Passionate and authentic in his beliefs. Mental hospitals are full of them. If you think about it, most people live in their conscious layer of logic and preconditioned assumptions… completely unaware why they think what they think… or how people and things make them feel and react. The forebrain doesn’t have to have access to the hindbrain… logic takes care… Read more »

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“He’s an alpha in his circles though . . . But it will be easy to diagnose him as a creep with mental issues.”

In his mindset he is the Secret King – with power. A gamma with the trappings of an alpha. Not a good combo.

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“Ride or die girl made…” really? she didn’t jump off the cliff though. instead she’ll talk. they all talk keith blew through 100 million of the dumb girls stash. he didn’t steal it and invest it (he sucked at that). he fucking blew it. i wonder how many $15,000 burgundies it took before he figured out he wasn’t the smartest guy in the room after all keith dabbled with the underage. this means he has self control issues. weak and likely inexperienced. again, get pussy your own age as soon as you can. it’s the only time you can and… Read more »

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IRL – in my estimation, with this Keith Raniere, it’s about failure to appropriately process and reconcile the subjective/objective dichotomy dilemma, that each human is faced with, very early on. And that’s not uncommon. It’s the hallmark of Cluster B. It’s not authentic because it’s rooted in avoidance of existential fear. Authenticity on the other hand is about managing existential fear. Success that way (in managing existential fears) results in masculine principles (penetrating) or feminine ego-disintegration (receptivity). Note the polarity. Self-agency operates in both spheres, …… if that is a problematic statement for some ….. note that, by definition, polarities… Read more »

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“keith dabbled with the underage. this means he has self control issues. weak and likely inexperienced.”’

Errol Flynn did it, got charged, and walked. Then continued to do it without being charged again.

But then Flynn was charming and popular. Keith is not. I’m not as confident as Sentient that Keith will walk.

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keith blew through 100 million of the dumb girls stash. he didn’t steal it and invest it (he sucked at that). he fucking blew it. Now now fleezer, keep an abundance mentality. Investing is hard work, much prefer people handing me fat stacks… keith dabbled with the underage. this means he has self control issues. We’re not falling into that trap are we? Age appropriate girls… Curious comment though, weren’t you into girls with braces? keith recruited over the hill washed up actresses Perhaps, he also recruited early 20’s in vogue ones… Reactions from guys are as interesting as the… Read more »

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“Errol Flynn did it, got charged, and walked. Then continued to do it without being charged again.”

but…. 2018. poe used to fuck his underage first cousin, right? shit done changed, unless you’re protected. so in a way shit hasn’t changed. all that matters is being protected

“But then Flynn was charming and popular. Keith is not. I’m not as confident as Sentient that Keith will walk.”

he has zero family connections and zero value to offer in a trade. he has no leverage. epstein knew to have cameras everywhere

keith was not trained by mossad. keith is fucked

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keith was not trained by mossad

Not Teh Jews again… sad

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“Curious comment though, weren’t you into girls with braces?”

absolutely. always will be

me: “so you’re a thousand miles from home, living on your own for the first time, you still have braces and you’re thinking about breaking up with your long distance high school boyfriend?”

her: “uh huh”

me: “I’ve seen these kinds of cases before. i’m going to tell you your future now”

very different from…

creepy uncle joe: “so, you’re 13, huh? no serious guys until 30” (awkward laugh from everyone)

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mossad is a top organization and much can be learned from their approach and operations

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“It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.”

definitely. you post awesome shit where everyone learns, whether they intend to or not

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We’re already seeing that serious TRMers are better equipped to thoughtfully analyze Keith the Kult Guy and his harem than anything you will probably see from the mainstream media. — Based on my experience in that (increasingly feminized) media, I expect that the vast majority of what people get to see and hear will be from the wimmens’ point of view. I know that’s obvious, but funny to watch. .– I’d also argue the main factor driving this as a big national story is the brandings. That’s all. The rest just justifies filling space. And yet we know that brandings… Read more »

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“We’re already seeing that serious TRMers are better equipped to thoughtfully analyze Keith the Kult Guy . . .” I have an unfair advantage. “I expect that the vast majority of what people get to see and hear will be from the wimmens’ point of view.” There will likely be more testifying on his behalf than against, although they likely won’t be as prominently displayed in the media. But the jury will see that. “I’d also argue the main factor driving this as a big national story is the brandings. That’s all.” Yes, it’s shocking. SHOCKING I say. And yet,… Read more »

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Speaking of creepy…

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd8-Rfpnty3/?taken-by=carlosdoc77

Check out playa’s post to this girl…

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bgbbz0sAMcE/?taken-by=camille_ringoir

carlosdoc77@camille_ringoir I open my eyes and awake seeing your beauty, with the light of your eyes I see the path traveled, illuminated, rugged, jumping high fences, impenetrable and blind … my mind thinks of those memories, of your beauty. Madness of innocent youth, thinking, is what you have, The happy years I live watching your beauty, Only you are: The radiant sun of dawn … The beautiful and subtle star of a beautiful dream …

oi vey… Not woo.

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Jeezum crow, this whole thread is following my life around all of a sudden.

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@kfg
Took me awhile to put Euler together with that scary-fication pic you posted. Is this actually a thing? Can I get women to join my cult if I pose as a 17th century Swiss mathematician?

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“Speaking of creepy…”

possibly the face of the reaper himself

my take on his woo

“I open my eyes and awake seeing your juicy parts that i ravage, with the light of my cock, I see the path so well traveled, illuminated, rugged, jumping high fences, so very penetrable and wide-eyed … my mind thinks of nothing, especially your fading beauty. Madness of innocent youth, fresh holes, is what you have, The happy years I live watching my explotation your beauty, Only I am: The radiant sun of dawn … The beautiful and subtle star of a beautiful dream …”

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@O.B.I.T.
And yet we know that brandings are not that far downriver from other things women do to themselves or willingly pay to have done.

Didn’t PUA Justin Wayne Dating have girls tattooing his name in his videos? Can’t find them now, he’s taken them down…

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The creep thing… Yeah, not sure if that’s the word that might be used. It’s all about reframing and post factum hamster rationalizations though. Whatever works to save wiminz… Sick mind of some sort? Easy label if they link him to the sorority girls circle…

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“Took me awhile to put Euler together with that scary-fication pic you posted.”

Dude, it’s his identitiy (and yes, I am going to make every crappy play on that that I can).

“Can I get women to join my cult if I pose as a 17th century Swiss mathematician?”

Not in my experience (they’re into Victorian), but, ya know, pics, so I guess it happened.

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She’s “literally” cheating on her boyfriend.
http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-case-of-cheating-girlfriend.html

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Though this has some good insight into channeling

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Dude, it’s his identitiy (and yes, I am going to make every crappy play on that that I can).

It is a cute way to work all the angles, for sure.

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Maybe just me, but it appears that Camille has collagen-injected lips.

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“Can I get women to join my cult if I pose as a 17th century Swiss mathematician?”

Anything is possible but when I start my cult I will not be posing as my 18/19th century German mathematician avatar because that will probably result in a cult that looks like this:

http://www.piedpiper.com/#team

Not the result you want.

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I bet y’all dime to dollar if Kieth takes a pokey trip it’ll not be sex related. It’ll be extortion or tax avoidance or mail fraud or something mundane but has teeth.

The opening salvo has to be sex steeped to enrage the BP public with terms like “sex slave” “branding”. Then they’ll dail it back for prosecution.

Think Clinton and perjury…not sex in Oval office.

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@CFGauss
I do see a couple of women hiding toward the back of that group shot.
Probably not even math-cult material though.

Wonder if there’s a probability-‘n-statistics cult

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“Raniere is currently in federal custody and faces up to life in prison after being charged with sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit forced labour. Known as “Vanguard” to followers – Raniere is accused of having a “decades’ long history of abusing women and girls” – including “repeated sexual encounters with multiple teenage girls” as young as 12, according to the document.” ouch did he even know the judges, da office, investigators of eastern district NY? did he know anybody? not enough to just know them. gotta have dirt. good dirt. and this guy was gonna start his own country?… Read more »

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“Wonder if there’s a probability-‘n-statistics cult”

I believe that’s rolled into the “I Fucking Love Science” cult, but bear in mind that they don’t actually do anything of the kind, so no actual actuarial talk if you know what’s good for you.

But if you can spout some bullshit about Bayesian inference and pull some numbers out of your ass that purport to support their a priori positions, you’re golden.

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““They induct the women into this secret group by telling them it is an all women’s group – they don’t tell the women that Raniere is actually in charge.”

aka “surprise, i have a dick”

is “surprise, i have a dick” a typically advisable approach to pickup?

no. and for good reason

thanks for teaching today’s lesson, vanguard

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@kfg, am I to understand you’re a GG fan?

I married one of them. Not that she likes football but purple Jesus can always be sold to her in the fall

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Those women knew Raniere was in charge. They were being inducted into his harem. That how solopsism can work to men’s benefit too. It allows women, at the time, to justify anything, even three ways, accepting men’s “bad behavior”, branding… Fleezer, I was that guy you described who hadn’t seen much sexuality beyond porn before 18. Hadn’t thought about cult leader hasa job but you are correct. I was perplexed, iny early 20’s watching girls tribbing crab style on the Fayetteville, NC dance floor, everyone watching. I was more curious that they were exhibitionist about it and how I could… Read more »

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Some good reads https://blacklabellogic.com/2018/03/29/yes-no-maybe/ Accept everything just the way it is. Do not seek pleasure for its own sake. Do not, under any circumstances, depend on a partial feeling. Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world. Be detached from desire your whole life long. Do not regret what you have done. Never be jealous. Never let yourself be saddened by a separation. Resentment and complaint are appropriate neither for oneself or others. Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love. In all things have no preferences. Be indifferent to where you live. Do… Read more »

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@Agent P: “am I to understand you’re a GG fan?” I’d have to know what it is first. “Not that she likes football . . .” Can’t say that I do either. For any meaning of the word football. ” . . . purple Jesus . . .” But I know enough about it to make a Bayesian inference that this has something to do with the Viqueens, and despite the above I used to prepare the newsletter of a GB fan club ( a gig’s a gig) for a friend who is a shareholder — so the social niceties… Read more »

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Danger…

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Purple Jesus … grain alcohol and grape juice?

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Interesting, “creep” used wrt Raniere in three different contexts: Jeane MacIntosh, New York Post, October 2010: Creepy cultist’s ‘killing’ confession Raniere’s stunning statement comes about 7 minutes into an 8 minute recording of a creepy sit-down with two women whose faces have been shielded on the tape. https://frankreport.com/2017/09/06/mexican-teens-left-clifton-park-referred-to-raniere-as-creepy/ “The girls were completely grossed out by Keith”‘ said a source. “They felt Keith was a ‘lech” [leech?] and he was creepy. They felt he had sexual intentions. They told their parents. Whether he did more, I don’t know. I know that he has been conscious of age of consent violations since… Read more »

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Speaking of creepy, a Florida newspaper is reporting that: “Teenage girls, women and even older men are writing to the Parkland school shooter and sending photographs — some suggestive — tucked inside cute greeting cards and attached to notebook paper with offers of friendship and encouragement. Groupies also are joining Facebook communities to talk about how to help the killer. The attraction of women to prison bad boys echoes the fascination with killers like notorious cult leader Charles Manson. Lyle and Erik Menendez, the Beverly Hills brothers convicted in 1994 of murdering their parents, attracted a pair of brides while… Read more »

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So the larger point is that in each of these cases, the media (that means women) decide if the villain is to be portrayed as “creepy” or “charismatic.” There’s not much in-between

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Danger of BP:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/24/gendarme-arnaud-beltrame-hostages-hailed-hero-france-trebes

And the FI celebrates a 4:1 kill ratio.

They storm the building after the cop is murdered. Fucking stupid.

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Rugby – nice link re the Quintus Curtius article. Speaks to some of the ideas I have recently outlined in this thread (and the “Transactional vs. Validational Sex” thread): 1) You can’t really untangle this self-agency thing, with respect to the gender differences, without knowing about the differing motivations. In very simple terms, men are more-so motivated to seek respect from others (the measure of which will roughly align with the measure of self-respect they practice onto themselves personally). On the other hand, in very simple terms, women are more-so motivated to seek security from others (the measure of which… Read more »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2He7pHCjH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td1uPq9K–E
Romance and death… Males die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlpyHCN9qK0
Or a male dies…
Legend comes about as legacy

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Rugby – one way of looking at this: Is the woman, even the most beautiful woman, worthy of what she, as a woman, more-so seeks – protection? Hold her accountable to that worthiness (as per the dynamic I outlined above), or, with respect to her continuing failure with respect to that accountability test, perhaps, it is better to withdraw, but each man must make these personal determinations on his own. Such is life. These misunderstandings and hard choices inform the deeply tragic aspects of human life. But in the end, perhaps it’s true, that you cannot really save any one… Read more »

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Romance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xlc0T12Imw
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If she is ware of herself… That encourages my protection and balances on my performance.
My performance is currency as respect.
Her’s is attention to from me.

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Some thoughts… triggered by Mystery and a 52 Vincent. You may know Kant, he was a regular for a while at Le Chateau and Sedfast. 26ish… NYC. Dove into Game and focused on Tinder for a while. Within a year he had fucked 100 girls from it, was hitting 20 a month. His Tinder guide is HOF post on Sedfast. His model was meet at a bar within a block of his apartment, have one drink, say something like “we can drink cheaper at my place” and bounce her to a corner store, pick up a six pack, then bounce… Read more »

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Oh yeah… you’ll need a half dozen or more Hemi Cuda’s to trade for one.

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Goodnigth Everyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gru_JBBMBbY
One moment one aspect at a time.

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“I’ve thought this song would kill in a similar setting and for the same purpose… ”

I pull redheads right out of the crowd to open me with that one.

The Black Lightning was only made to order. I think they made nearly several 52s. My favorite bicycle engineer (formerly of the Porsche F1 team and HP hard drive team) used to own one. His impression was that the gearbox was a clusterfuck.

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kfg – well there you go then, and of course you do. Why do I suspect you hop on one to leave the show? wink

“There is a fundamental difference, however, between the old Vincents and the new bred of superbikes. If you rode the Black Shadow at top speed for any length of time, you would almost certainly die. That is why there are not many life members of the Vincent Black Shadow Society. ” – Hunter S Thompson

http://www.vincent-hrd.co.uk/hst.html

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So, went over this thing like the Zapruder film, partially because there was so little to go on. It would have been nice if the the guy had posted anything regarding the content of the convo before the guy went Sonny Bono into the glass pane. SO, what can we deduce… We have the guy standing in front of the chick on a busy sidewalk. Obviously, they had been walking and having a disagreement which was getting nowhere, and the guy’s frustration has been mounting. The glass pane thing was just the culmination of that frustration, ala him getting in… Read more »

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@Sentient: “Why do I suspect you hop on one to leave the show?”

I’m a Yamaha two stroke tingle sort of guy, but I don’t currently own a motorbike and probably won’t.

Unless I find some old lady just looking for someone to get that cherry, red RZ350 Kenny Roberts replica the hell out of her garage. Then I’m a goner.

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My first bike was a 1970 triumph 650 that had been converted into a chopper. I rode it around while gathering parts to ” un-convert ” it back to original. My Honda was more reliable but less fun.

But in it’s chopper form, the triumph attracted an assload of female and law enforcement attention, sometimes simultaneously.

Bikes, cars and guitars.

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@Sentient Mystery and demonstrating or Displaying High Value… In Field Reports, you linked Amadeus. Ever watched Immortal Beloved? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNq_G5QxVhk Music as a display of value, emoting, leading, imposing own frame: Ludwig van Beethoven: Music is… a dreadful thing. What is it? I don’t understand it. What does it mean? Anton Felix Schindler: It – it exalts the soul. Ludwig van Beethoven: Utter nonsense. If you hear a marching band, is your soul exalted? No, you march. If you hear a waltz, you dance. If you hear a mass, you take communion. It is the power of music to carry one… Read more »

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This is what I wish I could hop on when I leave a show, but I’d have to hit the lottery – three times:

http://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/m/maserati/8c/maserati_8cm_7.jpg

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“He made me see the world in an entirely new light.”

I’ve not seen that but will. Thanks.

On Beethoven and passion… A Room With a View. Great RP movie.

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Man, you have very specific and expensive tastes. Bravo.

This is why the dwindling art of coach building will be a great loss. I’d wager most of the surviving maserattis are sequestered in museums now.

Hey!! I have a pair of English wheels and a bunch of Louvre presses and wooden mallots and sandbags and leading tools….. Lol, I juuussstttt don’t have quite enough skill. But we have time.

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What is your awareness of women being empathetic to men? In my estimation, there is not a whit. Perhaps this is the evolutionary speedbump.

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Depends on a man’s exposure to women in general. If we are only speaking of dating or solely looking for sexual encounters, then I’d agree with you 85%. You have to go through hundreds of women over years to form a solid opinion, and not just sexually either, to gain a decent measure of ” women’s ” empathy. Individual experience will vary, but I find plenty of women are indeed capable of empathy. The numbers aren’t gigantic though. If you want to really see something, broaden your horizons and deal with women from varying social backgrounds and/or cultures. Guys tend… Read more »

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“Man, you have very specific and expensive tastes.”

And it annoyed the hell out of my mother when I was a kid. She couldn’t fool me. I had the eagle’s eye and could pick out design and quality from a mile away. And once I’d seen it I was never happy with the crap we could afford.

On the other hand, I’m not fooled by price and fashion, so I don’t go throwing money away on expensive crap.

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@blaximus

Agree. Great perspective.

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“What is your awareness of women being empathetic to men? In my estimation, there is not a whit. Perhaps this is the evolutionary speedbump.” It’ sorta the wrong question though. Best a man can hope for, I think, is receiving a woman’s respect. Empathy? Well – women aren’t men. So how are they gonna relate? If they try, they are gonna relate through projection (projecting their own concerns around security) onto a man’s situation (thusly the woman is thereby framing it in her mind like the man is a little boy), and extend false empathy around that (loss of security),… Read more »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2e5Siu8E1k I first heard the name Beethoven when I was seventeen. I had heard that his music aroused such passion… as to be dangerous. Some thought it obscene and unsuitable for the young. Countess Anna Marie Erdody: He was too good for them. His fire… offended their small brains. Anton Felix Schindler: But not you. Countess Anna Marie Erdody: I could match his temperament. Anton Felix Schindler: You gave him rooms at your palace? Countess Anna Marie Erdody: I wanted him… near me. Anton Felix Schindler: Was he your lover? Countess smiles. And yet… ONEitis… like many others: @Sentient On… Read more »

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Sooner or later, it comes back to motorcycles. Most of us just don’t have room for a horse.

Kenny Roberts on a 350. You have to be pretty old to remember that.

http://blog.motorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/042012-kenny-roberts.jpg

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Kenny’s a talented kid. He might make something of himself someday.

A week ago was the anniversary of Mike the Bike’s death. Monday is his birthday. No MV Agustas around, or even Hondas, but there’s a Ducati down the street I could lay a flower by.

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[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVROhRLrQ3U&w=1280&h=720%5D

What people can’t do, even when they are supposed to be too old.

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What people can’t do, even when they are supposed to be too old.

Waves to crowd midway through the corkscrew. Gets off the bike, remarks that it’s running rich. Couldn’t get the speed he wanted out of it. “It’s real safe, let’s put it that way”.

LOL. Old men are a pain.

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What American flat trackers do when it gets to cold to play in the dirt.

https://youtu.be/phLf5OItA8Q

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Still one of my favorite battles on the track ever. Butt-puckeringly dangerous driving and determination to win. I can’t wait to go watch MotoGP at CotA this month. I’ve never gotten to watch it live. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY9mrKR5SkA My current sport machine: Had it out on Lime Creek Road with a local sport bike club a few weeks back. It’s by no means the fastest sport bike on the road at all. I even had the factory bags on it. However, was actually tailgating a bit on the Panigale 1299 (at about double my horsepower) in front of me and the Hayabusa… Read more »

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Still one of my favorite battles on the track ever.

!!! I crashed just from watching the video…

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You don’t get to that level of skill without a few crashes and trips to the hospital.

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My son took his 250 sport bike out Friday night. Dark along a empty frontage road. He was clearing his mind, he tells me. At 45 mph a deer runs in front, he swerves-misses, looks for another and yes, another bolts in front, he t-bones it, loses control, dumps the bike, tumble-rolls 60 ft along the pavement. His adrenaline was so high he couldn’t find neutral to get it going again and thought it was shot. Calming down he rides it home, I had the trailer hitched but waited for him to come home one I Mrs. goes wild hugging… Read more »

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He said arriving home: “Dad I survived a full speed crash on a motorcycle and I’m fine and the bike is only cosmetically damaged. (POUNDS beer) That was awesome.”

???Rights of passage? Mr. Red pill father???

People, don’t you understand
The child needs a helping hand
Or he’ll grow to be an angry young man some day?
Take a look at you and me
Are we too blind to see
Do we simply turn our heads, and look the other way?
Well, the world turns
And a hungry little boy with a runny nose
Plays in the street as the cold wind blows…

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EhIntellect
Had a similiar experience with my road bike. But laid it down while pedaling around 40mph on a trail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcsOh3Jz9Cg

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@wild man

Nevertheless, women are in denial in regard to male vulnerability. Becoming aware would disrupt their illusion of safety. In general, men reach the threshold of death by heartache faster than women, who have evolved to endure more emotional pain.

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I just got back and read through all the comments to me on this thread. A lot of people asked about the crappy sex I’ve always had with my wife. I talked about this in a long post at the link below a few months ago – it’s the source of a lot of current sexual troubles. https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-36/#comment-210188 We actually had sex a couple of nights ago. I didn’t do that much. We’d been out for dinner and she’d had some wine and got horny and she pretty directly suggested going to bed when we got home. So it wasn’t… Read more »

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Happy Easter, men. I’ve much to celebrate, frankly more than ever in my life…in large part to y’all’s company. Minor miracles surround me. I’ve learned to recognize them so much so that I expect everything to go my way if not immediately, eventually. A deep faith in that ebb-flow, that control isn’t part of the equation no more. Who’s the crazy one? The one who believes in miracles or the one who denies it’s existence while in the presence of one? I’ve stopped getting in front of myself, fully. Done. I feel it and synergistically my family does too. I’ve… Read more »

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Marquis,

No snark here: Why do you have concern that others question you? Why you need to defend anything you do? Do you take unconscious pleasure in being demeaned in the secret hope that it might become validation in some convolution of addiction to your pride?

You think anyone here gives a rat’s ass, at this point, that you do something or not?

You interpret stasis as dynamism. Guys here see this.

By all means feel free continue posting a masochistic celebration of psychological seige warfare…on yourself, your wife, your family.

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This is what being “woke” means.

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Idle thighs are the devil’s workshop.

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