Dangerous Times – Part 1

We live in a very dangerous age for men. The Blue Pill is even more of a liability today than it was in times past, because we live in an era that encourages men going all-in in their life’s investment in that conditioning.

Welcome to the #MeToo era. What we’re experiencing in our social environment today is a sea change in intersexual dynamics. The underlying fundamentals haven’t changed; our evolved natures and the latent purposes that are driven by them haven’t shifted, but the social dynamics and sexual acculturation that serve as checks and balances on them has drastically shifted, and in a very short time. While you could make an argument for an idealized free love era that took place right after the Sexual Revolution, now we find ourselves in a time that is so calculating in its design on intersexual social dynamics that it makes the late 60s seem romantically naive.

Back in October of 2014 I wrote a post called Yes Means Fear. This essay was a response to the, at that time new, Yes Means Yes sexual consent legislature that was being instituted on California university campuses. Dalrock had written similar essays regarding this latest form of sexual consent aptly titled The Sexual Revolution’s Arab Spring and Making the World Safe for Promiscuous Women. It may take you a while to review these posts, but please read these and skim the comments to get a gist of the conversations we had going on just three years ago.

One of these comments was the inimitable Deti:

At the end of the day, college women (soon all women) will be able to use the “lack of consent” law/policy as a weapon against undesirable men to do the following:

1. Weed out and eliminate unattractive men by chilling their conduct

2. Making even the most innocuous sexual conduct (i.e. approaching, asking for dates) so dangerous that the only men who will engage in the SMP are attractive men with proven successful sexual track records who will never get reported for doing anything “untoward”; thus ensuring that only attractive men will approach them for dates and sex

3. Giving women more power over the SMP so even unattractive women can use and select men for alpha fux; then have the sole ability to pursue and select men for beta bux when they see fit.

Open hypergamy. It will be “we women are going to do this, and if you want sex, you’ll do it our way, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.”

Deti posted this comment on October 15th, 2014. The inter-blog debate then (at places like the now defunct Hooking Up Smart) was that Yes Means Yes was solely meant as a firm response to the supposed on-campus rape /sex assault panic that was being circulated in the mainstream media at the time. From the Red Pill perspective, we saw what potential this legislation represented to what would later become a societal scale institution.

Of course, they called us reactionaries, called us ‘rape apologists’ for simply pointing out all the ways this legislation would be expanded to a societal scale. They said we were exaggerating when we illustrated that, even for long-married couples, there would need to be a check list of approved acts of intimacy for each and every act performed, and men would need some form of hard evidence to prove that consent had indeed been granted.

The new California college/university sexual assault policy requires the following:

“An affirmative consent standard in the determination of whether consent was given by both parties to sexual activity. “Affirmative consent” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity. It is the responsibility of each person involved in the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the affirmative consent of the other or others to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent. Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.”

There was sex, which is clearly “sexual activity.” The question then becomes whether there was “affirmative consent”. In order for there not be consent, the woman would have had to show affirmative conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sex with the man. It is the man’s responsibility to make sure he had that consent. She had to manifest, verbally or nonverbally, consent to it.

Silence doesn’t mean consent. Her not resisting or saying “no, please stop” doesn’t constitute “affirmative consent”. So really, the only way to make sure that consent is present is for the man to continue asking her throughout the encounter: “Is this OK? Can I keep doing this? Is this thrust OK with you? Is THIS thrust OK? Can I thrust again? How about this one? Can I keep going? Do you want me to stop?”

If that did NOT happen, if the man did not get EXPRESS, VERBAL statements that he could continue, then yes, there was sexual assault.

The way this plays out in situations like this is that verbal consent is REQUIRED. She cannot manifest “ongoing” “affirmative consent” any other way. That’s because of the way the law is written. Lack of protest is not consent. Lack of resistance is not consent. Silence is not consent. Thus, a wife, just lying there, starfishing it, giving duty sex to her husband, is putting him in jeopardy, because she is not manifesting “ongoing” “affirmative consent”.

All of that they said was ridiculous. Women would never be so petty as to make a man ask permission for, nor hold him accountable for, sex that she wanted to have with him. Furthermore, this ruling was only meant to curb campus assault; any extrapolating to a larger societal norm, we were told, was just us Red Pill men and their insecurities about the intentions of women and sex. If we’d Just Get It we’ll have no problems.

We were told it was limited to penis-in-vagina sex only. We were told it was just in cases of “drunken sex”. All of these proved false. This law was intended to govern, regulate and control every single sexual interaction between a man and a woman. This law is intended to require a man to get express consent at every single step of the process, from initial touch to banging. This law is intended to chill all male sexual conduct. This law by its very terms requires express consent for every sexual act, starting with kino.

The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality – Heartiste

A World of Fear

When I wrote Yes Means Fear (also 3 years ago) it was initially in response to an article by Ezra Klein, Yes Means Yes is a terrible law, and I support it completely. This reads through as bad as any gender related article on Vox, but Klein’s salient point was summed up in one sentence.

To work, “Yes Means Yes” needs to create a world where men are afraid.

I’m reasonably sure Ezra was aware of the larger scope – larger than just California college campuses – that his giddy Beta love of a world where men would be afraid to so much as approach a woman would lead to. But now we find ourselves here in his idealized sexual marketplace founded on men fearing to interact with women at the risk of losing everything. At the risk of being Zeroed Out. Today, just three years later, we’re experiencing the #metoo moral panic based exactly in the fear Ezra said would serve us so well. Ezra must be proud that the gold rush hysteria of sexual misconduct allegations any and every woman (who ‘might’ have ever felt an accidental hip brush 50 years ago) feels entitled to is the result of this cleansing fear he loved so much. Unless he’s defending allegations himself of course.

If you go before the college board and say that the woman accusing you of assault simply doesn’t remember that she said yes because she was so drunk, then you’ve already lost.

Gone is the college board now in favor of the popular court of social justice – the court that condemns a man for even the suspicion of an allegation of sexual misconduct. Gone too is part of women’s remembering the pretense of a sexual encounter. Whether a woman was drunk and doesn’t remember the details, or if she conveniently recalls them 40-50 years after the fact is immaterial. The operative point is that we always believe any and every allegation of rape or misconduct a woman brings forward.

Articles of Belief

Shortly after I wrote Yes Means Fear I wrote Hysteria, an essay intended to address the disgraceful (now thoroughly proven) UVA fraternity rape hoax story written by Sabrina Erdley and published by a complicit Rolling Stone Magazine. Just daring to question the validity of so outrageous a rape account was heresy to women back then. Bear in mind this took place after the Yes Means Yes consent ruling in California. At this time, just to question the story of a woman’s rape account was enough to earn you the title of ‘rape apologist’. But moreover, we were popularly expected to repeat this mantra and always accept a woman’s account as infallibly true:

“No matter what Jackie said, we should automatically believe rape claims.” http://t.co/3HFlXR7jme True insanity pic.twitter.com/AFXIyn32FS

This was the sentiment (now deleted) tweeted by Zerlina Maxwell on December 6th, 2014. Since then this meme that anything a woman had to say about sexual assault must be believed by default has snowballed into a default belief that anything a woman alleges against a man must also be believed. Whereas a male college student might stand in front of his kangaroo court at a university, now men must stand in front of the kangaroo court of public opinion where a woman’s word outweighs all pretense of due process. That college kid is now the average man who must prove his innocence because if a woman alleges it due process is reversed.

What we’ve witnessed in just 3 years is the systematic removal of a man’s right to habeas corpus with regard to women’s allegations.

And I expect that this removal will extend to much more than just women’s believability in regard to sexual misconduct. Imagine a culture where it’s expected that anything a woman accuses her ex of is to be believed in divorce proceedings.

We’re now seeing exactly what myself, Deti, Dalrock and countless other Red Pill bloggers and commenters predicted would happen, but it’s also so much more that what we could see coming. In just 3 years Yes Means Yes moved off the campus and into mainstream culture; a culture predicated on female social primacy. In a feminine-primary social order even “affirmative consent” isn’t enough – “enthusiastic consent” must now be established and maintained. That “enthusiastic consent” is a new ambiguously defined terminology, and part of the larger narrative meant to further confuse and instill fear in men.

Last week Novaseeker, once again, had a terrific comment that illustrates what consent has come to today.

Yep, that’s the newest goalpost move.

We went from No means No (which meant that if she doesn’t say no, it’s on … which pretty much is the basic human mating script) to “affirmative consent” (“may I kiss you now” … “may I lick your breast now?”, etc., per the “rules” required before any physical contact *and* at “each stage of escalation”). Very few people actually follow affirmative consent, as we know, but it’s the rule at most colleges and universities. It isn’t the legal rule for rape, in terms of determining what was “consensual”, currently, but the FI is working on that, believe me.

Now, we have the goalposts moving even further along, from “affirmative consent” to “enthusiastic consent” — which means that if her consent is even verbally expressed, but isn’t clearly enthusiastic, then it isn’t “reliable as consent” because it could be the result of “pressure”, and if the consent “was real, it would be expressed enthusiastically, because when people really are consenting to sex, they’re always enthusiastic about it”. So essentially the standard they are pushing now (and which is getting rolled out on campuses right now) is that if the girl isn’t jumping your bones and begging for your cock, it’s rape/assault. Of course, again, not the legal standard, but that doesn’t matter that much — as we can all see what is happening right now is that the legal standard is being marginalized, because people can be destroyed in our media saturated environment without any involvement of the legal system at all, and the standards that apply in that extra-legal environment are the ones that the FI wants to apply, whether the legal system applies them or not.

There are a few ways to look at this, but one obvious one is that this is a way for the FI to tighten the screws on betas. Very little sex that betas have, if any, is “enthusiastic consent sex”. Everyone knows this. Under this standard, basically all sex with betas is rape. That’s the intention.

And thus we come full circle to the latent purpose of legislating Hypergamy that I’ve continually repeated in many essays. It is Roissy’s maxim of feminism: The end goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.

Recently I found myself in a Twitter war on a story by CBS Los Angeles asking whether it was still OK for men to hug women. I used the cartoon I posted in The Creep 2 to illustrate my bigger point:

And of course the feminist tropes (from men and women) and the point & sputter ad hominem attacks flowed from there. However, this rage is precisely what I would expect from women who are now coming into a default expectation (entitlement) of all men to ‘Just Get It‘.

Only in this instance it is Blue Pill, Beta men who should know better than to approach a woman below their (self-perceived) sexual market value. Those men, the lesser men that her social media overinflated sense of SMV has convinced her are beneath her attraction floor should ‘just get it’ that they shouldn’t be flirtatious or even too friendly with her or risk the punishment of an allegation that might be his zeroing out. The Beta man who doesn’t ‘get it’ is an insult to her self-worth and deserving of an optimized Hypergamy.

In the next post I’ll be exploring the ramifications of the “enthusiastic consent” concept and how even consensual-but-unwanted sex and “duty sex” will be the next chapter in marital rape. I’ll also be detailing the the “Cat Persons” story that’s been making the rounds this week.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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“She loves you for WHAT you are not WHO you are + Sluts vs. Studs” This is partially true. But, it is not the complete truth and its deviation from the complete truth serves as a subtle deception to keep you guessing, to keep you measuring yourself in terms of how you compare to WHAT she may or may not “love”. It is vitally important to understand (if you want to escape the bullshit) that you should IN NO WAY critique yourself in terms of how to gain her acceptance OTHER THAN and ONLY TO gain her “acceptance” to use… Read more »

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More weight!

Talking to the snow on your roof?

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“when that shit turns around and has huge negative impact on their own lives (husband/son/etc get fired/arrested for innocent behavior) they STILL can’t connect the cause and effect…”

It’s a start:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/22/us/campus-sex-assault-mothers.html

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Oscar The way I understood it (from family and general environment) you would meet somebody, start going out, and after a while be her boyfriend. I completely ignored how you had to be aggresively sexual and escalate early on; I assumed this was implicit in a boy-girl rapport, and that no sexual tension had to be induced by me. That’s the old set of books. It is a form of “provider game”. It worked more or less for centuries. Not so much now for reasons Rollo has written about extensively. “Women can be their own betas” and they don’t need… Read more »

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Rollo, would you have an opinion on the effect of #Metoo (and its backlash) on the American economy?

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KFG: More weight!

AR: Talking to the snow on your roof?

I’m told it’s arriving Friday. I’m sick of winter already, which, given that it doesn’t even begin until tomorrow morning, isn’t a good sign.

That aside, the exclamation is the badass alpha moment of the Salem Witch Trials which were referenced in the comment before mine:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Giles_Corey

They can take a man down, but they cannot make him plead.

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I can see that girls have moments of intense horniness (I experienced an example this past summer), but very fleeting and far between. It is millions of spermatozoa per hour versus an egg per month.

A girl’s horniness for alpha has nothing to do with ovulation. Haven’t you been paying attention about horny post-menopausal women?

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@Hans T
There has been one woman to get a taste of their own medicine — the Kansas City-area HR exec who was running for Congress until it just came out that she had been reprimanded for unwanted advances on a male underling.

Meanwhile the legal system — criminal or even civil — still has no idea what to do with the metoo stuff. The media, social media and HR continue to serve as ad hoc prosecutor, judge and jury

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“The following day, Malmo police issued a warning to local women not to go outside alone at night, and to walk in pairs or use taxis.”

”It’s about common sense. We are not warning people not to be outside, but to think twice and maybe not walk alone late at night and instead go with others or take a taxi,’ said Anders Nilsson of Malmo police who is leading the preliminary investigation.”

Interpretation: The tarts deserved it.

Slut-shaming Eurotrash style.

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I can see that girls have moments of intense horniness (I experienced an example this past summer), but very fleeting and far between. You see fleeting and far between because you are not seeing clearly. Again, what does “hidden estrus” mean to you? What does “covert sexuality” mean to you? Don’t just react to these questions, think. Exactly. Oscar, women all want dick, and they want it a lot. The difference between men and women here is that women are *much* more selective than men are. That doesn’t mean they crave sex less than men do, it means that they… Read more »

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@Eh

“Interpretation: The tarts deserved it.”

Nah, basically if a gang of guys is already going around raping women they( the gang) aren’t likely to follow a curfew. The women are protesting the police reaction telling them (the women) to stay off the streets, they , the women, want the men off the streets, all men.

Silly girls.

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@mgtowhorseman what you are describing is already happing. Here is a commercial for a phone company in Sweden https://youtu.be/phuUG9_Wwtw Girl: What are do you wish from Sture as a Christmas present? Boy: Headphones, hold on a second Sture? Girl: Ja, mommies new guy Boy: wasn’t his name Stefan? Girl: They broke it off Boy: Ahh … then I want an Iphone Girl: me too Now, this level of callous exploitation only works if the men are on board with it. I have a funny feeling that both Stefan and Sture will connect the dots at some point, as it becomes… Read more »

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@palmasailor Here is Gad Saad talking to a Swedish member of parliament who has an immigrant background https://youtu.be/umhcTgtXl5Q The whole talk is worthwhile listening to, however my three takeaway messages were: 1. Gang culture in Sweden is a consequence of failed integration in combination with the Swedish legal situation. 2. The Swedish version of the alt-right (Sverigedemokrater) wants to blame it on race, which may be a factor, however the causality is much more complicated than that. 3. The majority of immigrants themselves are sick of this gang shit, but instead of solving it collectively they solve it through means… Read more »

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kfg I’m told it’s arriving Friday. I’m sick of winter already, which, given that it doesn’t even begin until tomorrow morning, isn’t a good sign. Global Warming got you down? Eh, you could be in SoCal, parts are currently still on fire thanks to La Nina. Later on next year that means mudslides. So cheer up! That aside, the exclamation is the badass alpha moment of the Salem Witch Trials which were referenced in the comment before mine: Yeah, well, I dropped “Salem Witch Trial” here more than once. Did you bite? No! Now you pop up with the punchline.… Read more »

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“You see fleeting and far between because you are not seeing clearly.” Blue pill thinking clouds thoughts. It causes one to not be in the zone with flow. When in a blue pill fog, everything becomes melodrama (drama in which many exciting events happen and the characters have very strong or exaggerated emotions). The FI and it’s current iteration #MeeeTwoooo uses this to it’s greatest advantage. When Sentient talks about dog and Catonese language, it is not meant to have men abdicate from being logical and thinking in dog language, which is straightforward and logical. Men should still logic out… Read more »

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WTF, I typed Androsphere and some idiot spelled it Hydrosphere.

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@palamsailor “Nah. It’s just a result of letting scum into your country unchecked Traditional immigration is totally different The thing is they’re Alpha scum as opposed to the beta SJW’s prevalent in Sweden so let’s see how that pans out” I would contest this, not all of them ‘are scum’, its just the proportion is higher, as the system incentivises bad behaviour. Furthermore, I think there are larger forces at work here than mere immigration patterns. However, in terms of how this will turn out, here is an exert from the Fate of Empires, by John Glubb (1977:15-16 ) where… Read more »

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Look what I found, surprise surprise Sweden introduces 6 hours day week

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-introduces-six-hour-work-day-a6674646.html

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@palamsailor “The betas allowed and facilitated it.” pretty much, however the causality for the collapse is a bit more complicated. The reason being, that it can only occur due to a lack of in-group cohesion. Currently, within the US the polarisation of the public debate is at an all time high, last election results showed like 49 / 51, same for Brexit, French vote was close, Germany still doesn’t have a government and so forth. Now what people forget in staring themselves blind on these short term trends, is that danger that results out of this chaos. Within such a… Read more »

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Here’s a classic example of female solipsism, directed by a woman, of course…

sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/912344131784/adoration

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@rugby

Pertinent example of amused mastery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9PFgFRtIKU

Furthermore, the whole fallout of dual survival was a good example (imo) of principles vs. cooperate interests. We all know ‘won’ that one, however when shit hit’s the fan my bet is on Cody and not the corporate board of directors of Discovery.

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I think that there us too much focus on what will the law do about the YMY. This is not entirely the FI’s goal. They know that they can’t change the law overnight. They want a “justice dispensing entity” that will be parallell to the law, yet not be held acountable for foul behavior like false acusations. The parallell institutions will treat victims anonymously but the guilty men will be publicly revealed, shamed, doxed. The fantasy here is that they wanna act like Wikileaks but with their own fashion of justice. Exposing men whenever and however they want, while protecting… Read more »

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Perhaps I may mention (as it is the same topic) that the British Prime-Minister-ess – a woman of whom it can truly be said that everything she touches turns to lead – has in the last couple of weeks lost two of the more senior members of her cabinet (both male); one for looking on his mobile at something NSFW and the other for a remark – a joke – to a female colleague. Fear stalks the land. It is hard however to feel sympathy as these men were surely white-knights keen to throw other men under the bus.

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@palmasailor “I come back to Islam and there are a lot of things they have right.” The notion of “have right” is interesting here, because for social organisation what is “right” depends on your highest goal for your society. If your highest goal is the preservation of your culture, protecting the male inheritance line, ensuring reproduction above replacement rate than and valuing safety over individuality, than yes indeed Islam does surely “have a lot of things right”. However, if you value personal liberty, intellectual freedom and the ability to express your opinions (or any Western foundational value) than the Islamic… Read more »

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@Novaseeker “the men they want sex with is small relative to the total number of men” Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to convey. A bit like a starving person who accepts nothing but caviar and oysters. I would not call that “starving”. Honestly, I get it in the sense that desire can not be negotiated, and that you have to up the alpha. It is hard for me because I always saw sex as a bodily function of sorts, and this whole process of seduction and domination and bed gymnastics is kinda exhausting. I like stability and certainty,… Read more »

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@ Palma “It seems to me that for the best part Hypergamy doesn’t exist” Bear with me, please. Hypergamy exists in Islam in so much it is codified into Sharia. All the women of any value are potentially in the hands of the highest value 20% of men, hence the 4:1 polygamy ratio. These social customs were created in a harsher time, but still apply today, though again my gut says trading freewill for 3 more wives is a raw deal. Inshallah and all. I’m no expert but at first blush, it fucks up the natural dynamic, permanently Betaizes the… Read more »

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I have to take some issue with Novaseeker over the notion that women are every bit as keen on sexual activity as men and thus his rationaliisation that they are merely waiting for the Alpha Male to appear. Were women so keen then life would for heterosexual males be like a Gay Bathhouse but it isn’t. Women thus are like my Autstin Powers look-alike friend who is largely Incel but who insists that all his future girlfriends will be more or less supermodels. It seems to me that unlike men who do actually think of and do other things that… Read more »

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@Albert Spot on about the Château Heartiste folks. There is a lot to learn and amuse yourself with over there, but I never got to understand their hating on sluts while wanting to bang them. It’s widespread in the manosphere. If a girl has no diseases, why does it matter how many guys has she slept with? You are not going to marry her. There is a serious lack of consistency over at CH. Plenty of outraged posts on what he deems as anti-white propaganda, unchecked immigration, etc. but when the question of what to do pops up he vaguely… Read more »

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They may not restrict access to certain sites, but there could come a time where every site you visit (and of course everything you say online) can and will be used against you.

Overall you put it beautifully: the new normal is anonymous, extralegal, judge jury and executioner

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Bodily function? Well, there’s a huge part of the problem right there. It’s call a ” sex drive ” for a reason. I remember when I was a child, asking my father to tell me about the birds and bees because I’d seen it mentioned on numerous television shows. His response was along the lines of ” when you’re older and the time comes, you will know and no one will need to explain it to you or her. Keep living and things will start to Kick In., and it doesn’t have shit to do with birds or bees. “.… Read more »

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@Opus It seems to me that unlike men who do actually think of and do other things that women have a non-stop but very low level sexual mode of constant thinking Women’s sexual interest is low level until a high value male is nearby. Even when motivated they constantly produce fitness tests and LMRs. Not for the highest value men…rock stars, top athletes, etc. Also not if your game causes them to chase you. Thinking that fitness tests mean a woman is trying to avoid sex is dog thinking. Women are trying to screen out low value men…if she is… Read more »

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Opus, “It seems to me that unlike men who do actually think of and do other things that women have a non-stop but very low level sexual mode of constant thinking but that it takes someone very desirable to motivate them. Even when motivated they constantly produce fitness tests and LMRs. Those are hardly the actions of someone who is gagging for it.” What Blax said: “You gain mastery over yourself and integrate the strength of your appetites and passion into the whole of your life.” Yeah they produce fitness tests….because the guy’s sexual status isn’t clear to her. After… Read more »

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@ Opus Women respond most strongly to ” alpha ” or at a minimum a man giving alpha signals. Life for men isn’t like a gay bath house because society ( used to ) hold females to a different standard of conduct. This is changing and morphing into something else with each new generation though. Women do have extremely high sex drives/libidos, for the most part. Men are more physical in expressing our thoughts and desires, and women simmer consistently in the emotional and tactile and ” cerebral ” if you will. As a man I’ve never read the written… Read more »

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“non-stop but very low level sexual mode of constant thinking”

Oh and I call high grade baloney, Opus.

“non-stop but very high level sexual mode of constant thinking”

Fixed it for you.

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@ Blax

“Men are more physical in expressing our thoughts and desires, and women simmer consistently in the emotional and tactile and ” cerebral“

Sharpshooting you on this.

The calm Alpha type will bring out women’s root sexuality too. Frankly, this persona generates the greatest ROI. Her spiked emotions will demand relief.

If Alpha is pensive, mind elsewhere, her hindbrain will demand answers, why is he drifting away from me?

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If you put raw ground beef on an unbaked bun, and I paid it no mind, it would be a flawed conclusion to think ” blaximus doesn’t like hamburgers “.

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Hee.

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Gene Simmons: Apex Jew

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Heartiste is that way ————–>>

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Heartiste gives an important perspective…if I want the leftist perspective, I read Blax.

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Call me whatever the fuck you want because your little defective brain can process shit without basic labels.

I got no problem if you like dumb assed racist hateful pussy assed reading because you fit right into that category. Weak and scared and stupid as all hell.

Doesn’t mean I don’t love you though……

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Lol, read that.

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Blax,

“Call me whatever the fuck you want because your little defective brain can process shit without basic labels.”

I’m not surprised you fell for that simplistic bait. You’ve been not your sanguine self for a couple weeks.

A week on a Pinehurst golf course would do you well.

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Golf? Well maybe as long as there’s some waitresses and female barkeeps he can game back at the clubhouse

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@ EH Lol, you’re right about all of that. Actually, I think I do need at least some time at the driving range. Gotta be indoors though because cold. 99% of comments here are free of hatred and silly shit in general, so sometimes when I have to read some dumb faggish shit like ” apex Jew “, I tend to clap back because this isn’t château heartiste. That’s where slurring people is acceptable and required. ASD gets a kick out of baiting me, and I usually don’t respond to the avalanche of silliness pouring out of his keyboard. But… Read more »

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lol @ Blax

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I learned something useful from a senior citizens trip to Branson–if you only get out among the elderly, your energy will decline. Thinking about this further, if you are only around the young, your wisdom will decline. If you want to raise both energy and wisdom, you need a mix.

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Everybody gets baited unless they’re not worth engaging. Even lolcows have value. AR tries to bait me about autism. Fuck you, AR. lol

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“but there could come a time where every site you visit (and of course everything you say online) can and will be used against you.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJqbivkm0Ms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_0s8IZWkBg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysXMu73SYo
” (and of course everything you say online) can and will be used against you.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rg0l0hhx_4

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From the nation’s oldest and most prestigious (hah!) socialist rag, The Nation,

“Whiteness is all they’ve got” (referring to Trump’s base, which obviously includes many latino and about 10% of black blue collar men)…telegraphing that socialists will be using racebaiting to try to separate off the non-white part of Trump’s base

https://www.thenation.com/

“The country is ruled by oligarchs and their enablers”…sounds like leftwing populism, doesn’t it? Who on this site believes that the elites run everything?

Oligarchs are hardly in lockstep anywhere…they are always fighting each other…that’s when the biggest messes are created

Interesting that the Schlaflys are attacking Koch and Cook:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/20/schlaflys-slam-plutocrats-charles-koch-and-tim-cooks-demand-for-amnesty/

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@Oscar “It is hard for me because I always saw sex as a bodily function of sorts, and this whole process of seduction and domination and bed gymnastics is kinda exhausting. I like stability and certainty, but, alas, women don’t.” That statement is a Beta Tell. “Kinda exhausting” is because you lack free excess energy and charisma. (Ever hear a field report from Blaximus? What do you notice. Lots of free energy, charisma and fun…) I like the discussion of Opus/Oscar and EhIntellect/Blax/ASD because it highlights in a Red Pill fashion where to aim your arrow—> More towards Alpha. And… Read more »

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@SJF

Lifting weights is kind of exhausting…

I like stability and certainty (cough-sitting on my fat lazy ass-cough)

lol

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Men zeroing out:

“Male life expectancy fell from 76.3 years in 2015 to 76.1 in 2016, while female life expectancy stayed steady at 81.1, the NCHS said.“

Men life expectancy drops second year in a row, mostly from overdoses.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/americas-heroin-epidemic/u-s-life-expectancy-falls-second-straight-year-drug-overdoses-n831676

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww

Culture and freedom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld2ek2_rJJY

Battle of the familiar…

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Male LIfe expectancy drops, mainly from overdoses … and kayak mishaps.
“The Kayak Killer” — the woman who deliberately pulled the plug on her fiance’s kayak so he would drown — is freed after serving less than three years behind bars. She does face deportation to her native Latvia.

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I just heard the life expectancy numbers this morning. Whoa. In Jersey, there is a very active campaign to help/rehab/ not incarcerate people addicted to opiates, even heroin because so many start Initially via pain killer addition. Well…. I want everyone needing help to get help. But Chris Krispy Cream was a notorious law and order type who advocated locking up addicts just a few short years ago. What’s changed??? * sarcasm *. Heroin is not grown and processed in great quantity in the united states. Hopefully now that opiate addiction is being taken more seriously, people committing non violent… Read more »

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Gene Simmons: Apex Jew

Is that necessary? I think not. Take it elsewhere.

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Opus

I have to take some issue with Novaseeker over the notion that women are every bit as keen on sexual activity as men and thus his rationaliisation that they are merely waiting for the Alpha Male to appear.

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Alpha Male says “Hey!”

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Jersey boys.. * slaps knee *, I tell ya!!!!

He heee

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It’s part in parcel of men’s winnowing options, the first affected are the marginalized. It’s not a spike in Increased lipids taking men out but a behavior driven by complicated forces.

Antipathy towards men is driving this.

As with the mentally ill, they’re invisible, a statistic. These men broke under pressure, our overlords are free of their burden.

Cultural capital lost. We don’t realize what we’re missing.

It’s too easy assuming a defensive crouch or worse, acceptance hearing this news.

No joke, getting guys laid is the quickest way forward.

Routinely sexed men don’t addiction-kill themselves.

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@SJF

“He described his recognition for his admiration and respect for the health of my current status with my wife my daughter and son.”

He sees your RP vision as complete. A wife well loved, children well raised, life well lived.

Congratulations.

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@SJF

BTW: How many camels did she cost you?

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“Even when motivated they constantly produce fitness tests and LMRs. Those are hardly the actions of someone who is gagging for it.” agree. women aren’t men. regardless of what’s happening in life, I’ll hammer both ends of her multiple times a day. she’s more like, if she had her choice and depending on her spot in the cycle, let it build for one or two days, then orgasm twice in a few hours. and then again later she’ll take it from behind in the kitchien or something. it comes in streaks. they can wait. it doesn’t feel like waiting to… Read more »

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“Gene Simmons: Apex Jew”

it’s so funny how people get upset by words. words are fucking made up abstracts but people lose their minds when they hear the right or wrong ones according to their fucking world view/guess at the mmoment

something I heard growing up about sticks and stones makes grown men getting themselves in a twist about words seem a little girly

para tillerson…. ” we don’t deal with that kind of petty nonsense”

or manson…. “if you got a problem with me, you really got a problem with you”

“lighten up, francis”

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“He sees your RP vision as complete. A wife well loved, children well raised, life well lived.”
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/health/police-officer-adopts-homeless-opioid-newborn-btc-beyond-the-call-of-duty/index.html

“No joke, getting guys laid is the quickest way forward.

Routinely sexed men don’t addiction-kill themselves.”

Makes sense to me…

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@Oscar, It wasn’t meant as a belittling of CH, most of the biological stuff he posts is pretty good, as he digs through loads of psychology papers and finds good causal patterns. However, when it comes to commenting upon sociological and societal trends it turns into “for a man with a hammer every problems looks like a nail” kind of deal. This is exacerbated by the forum format (i.e. an internet blog) that is attracting likeminded spirits, whilst controversial voices are being shouted down (i.e. it turns into an echo-chamber). The whole hating on sluts is not a real mystery… Read more »

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Albert, You’ve said a lot worthwhile, don’t take this as cherry picking. IDK about the shitting on other guys thing. Yes it’s a competition, but there’s room for everybody and if anything men find their position in the hierarchy, move up as they merit. At least it works best that way. “The revolutionary thing I found, which bewilders other men, is when I consciously elect not to take part in bashing of other men and point out the moral culpability of women.” Funny thing this. I see it too and it’s a gossip bait. Pointing out women’s culpability, though true,… Read more »

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Oscar
“Bodily function”

In all seriousness, have you ever gotten blood test to determine your T level? Recenlty?

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It has been noted that these #meetoo showbiz women likely went along to advance their careers. So here is a story of a performer in ‘sexualized’ performance environment.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/10/burlesque-producer-ex-performer-falsely-accused-me-of-rape/

The next thing you know, they will have bouncers at their shows, weeding out the creepy voyeurs/audience members.

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@EhIntellect “don’t take this as cherry picking.” No worries, I have a pretty thick skin. Quite frankly I enjoy being insulted by other men (FYI not implying that you have) they always get surprised when I turn around and repeat what they said back to them without the insults, qualifying what they said with additional information. The trick I have learned is to “listen” what they are actually saying instead of merely focusing on what they are saying. Here is a pretty good example of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M Look at this guy fighting for words to express his ideas. He quite… Read more »

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Now this is interesting: an article about what the pushback to automatic #metoo firings could look like. Using the successes of expelled men’s civil rights suits against colleges, employing many of the same arguments: it may be actionable if an at-will firing (usually uncontestable) is made for a discriminatory purpose, i.e., “protecting” an accuser by firing a man without explanation for purposes of favoring women over men. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-transformation-of-sexual-harassment-law-will-be-double-faced/amp?__twitter_impression=true The example given is former Congressman Harold Ford, who is suing under Title VII (sex harassment, hostile work environment) over a #metoo firing for alleged harassment, with he claims was unexplained to… Read more »

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@theasdgamer haha wrong! I actually like lifting weights, I started this summer and I wish I had been told before about its benefits. I just don’t like to worry about betrayal, that’s all. Before finding this I suspected women could not be trusted, and now I know for sure. But you are in luck, very unstable years to come I reckon! @Anonymous Reader I have read about the dropping T levels and no, never took the test but intend to do so. I doubt it might be that. I am very hairy and can easily grow a beard. Going bald… Read more »

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You… you…. you’re serious, aren’t you???

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Test: High levels of testosterone is not always a good indicator.. if there’s a massive conversion to estrogen, of super high sbgh and low levels of ” free ” test.

Oscar, you really need to have your levels checked and don’t go by being hairy. I have high T levels, and I’ve never been an overly hairy guy. Fuzzy yes, hairy no.

Aromatase converting test to estrogen can be a real problem, especially as you get older – as this seems to naturally happen to a large number of males.

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@Oscar

Hey, buddy, glad to hear you’re still lifting…me too…are you doing free weights or a machine? I’m doing free weights myself.

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“I know, I know… I was not meant for this era lol”

WTF? Don’t flatter yourself.

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Oscar,

No amount of squats is going to help unless you get at your inhibitions. Exercise wont yell you your game still stinks.

Until you admit parts of you are defective and swap out that shoddy mentality you’re just hanging out pretending to be better.

You got a weird way of humility too. You seem to pat yourself on the back while spitting on others. I bet you don’t even realize that.

Kudos on getting the irrational confidence down pat, though.

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” What I meant with ‘bodily function’ is that I never believed in “making love” (or simply “love” for that matter) or expected a quasimagical experience like some dudes do. Also, zero desire for the rough sex that supposedly you have to deliver these days. I just want a warm body by my side and some touching. “ Okay Oscar, bear with me because I have been fascinated by this stuff for decades. Rough sex isn’t anything that a man is supposed to have. Let me ask you this: Do you ever feel (a) passion? You ever get carried away… Read more »

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@oscar Get your health checked. Testosterone levels, Thyroid, and a food panel. They can be expensive, it will cost you a few hundred to get comprehensive tests, but its worth it to have a good idea of where you are at. Low T, Thyroid, and inflammation huge issues that people don’t really mention much, especially the thyroid. It causes a LOT of mystery illnesses. Make sure you test for EBV — its the mono virus that causes a lot of thyroid problems, and get your T4 and T3 tests as well. I just had my blood tests done and discovered… Read more »

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yeah, as for what blax said, you have to test the T. I am pretty hairy and my T is as of right now is fairly low. Now what you have to look at is total T versus free T. Free T is what you can use. So you can have superhuman levels of total T, but if your free T is low, that means your body can’t use hardly any of the large levels of T you have so you functionally are low T, despite having a large amount of actual Testosterone. So get that tested. Until then, fatty… Read more »

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Hank

“I just had my blood tests done and discovered I have a significant allergy to a common food item”

and that would be gluten, no?

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“Fatigue is, IMO, the main issue fucking over men today”

And fatigue ties in with libido. If your libido is low, or at least lower than average, then that nixes a lot of the motivation you might feel to go into full Redpill self-improvement as this site advocates. Might as well just GYOW, steer clear of women and fap to porn when you have the energy then.

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“You got a weird way of humility too. You seem to pat yourself on the back while spitting on others. I bet you don’t even realize that.

Kudos on getting the irrational confidence down pat, though.”

lol, been meaning to tell you, eh, good to have you back

https://therationalmale.com/2017/08/28/mitchs-red-pill/#comment-212493

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Blax, libido is an interesting topic…mine is much different than yours. Always on, but more like a blue flame than a big wildfire. It’s no longer affected much by sight, but by touch. Not sure when that happened, lol. Even the broad I had a crush on I never really wanted to bang. There are a few I’d like to bang because they meet my specs…HB7+, single, sweet, neat, and discreet. Doesn’t mean I will any time soon, of course. Seeing them doesn’t cause me to stiffen up. Girls have danced close and tight and the needle didn’t move on… Read more »

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“I know, I know… I was not meant for this era lol” WTF? Don’t flatter yourself. Oscar, No amount of squats is going to help unless you get at your inhibitions. Exercise wont yell you your game still stinks. Until you admit parts of you are defective and swap out that shoddy mentality you’re just hanging out pretending to be better. You got a weird way of humility too. You seem to pat yourself on the back while spitting on others. I bet you don’t even realize that. Kudos on getting the irrational confidence down pat, though. Don’t flatter yourself.… Read more »

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@sentient

Its not gluten — that was one I suspected.

The main allergy is more unusual, so for obvious reasons I am not going to list it here. But no one I chatted with or in my family ever suspected it.

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oh goddamn hankster, just fucking say it so someone else might benefit too

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@Hank Steven Grundy’s book ‘The Plant Paradox: The Hidden Dangers in “Healthy” Foods That Cause Disease and Weight Gain’ is one source for a non-inflammatory diet. Jordan Peterson talks about a similar dietary plan for his daughter and himself that aligns with that. The book is available at the library and in webtorrents. There a lot of Youtube videos of interviews with him and his philosophy about diet and avoiding inflammatory things and avoiding provocateurs of inflammation. He does do some hocus pocus with medical science, but some people have turned around their shitty lives with his dietary advice. (don’t… Read more »

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“But no one I chatted with or in my family ever suspected it.”

Chatting and hoping is not an actual strategy in life.

Being self-directed with a purpose and a mission actually is.

You should try it. You should do that. Be self-directed and have a mission.

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@Oscar Sometimes you got to invite the bad-guys-in-your-psyche out to to play. Disciplined aggression. Self discipline is not Self suppression. Let your self out to play. If you just stop doing stupid things, that you know are stupid (and You Know, You Know…), your life improves a lot. In self improvement you want to be continually stepping away from your previous self. You want to be Order? Or do you want to be Chaos. Or do you want to be the process that mediates between the two. If you are the thing that mediates between the two, you are the… Read more »

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