The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. But when you are inside and you look around, what do you see; businessmen, lawyers, teachers, carpenters. The minds of the very people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of the system and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.
I apologize for breaking up the continuity of last week’s post with this one today, but I felt it was necessary to address the recent firing of James Damore by his employers, Google, for allegedly breaking company conduct codes for raising many of the issue I and other’s in the Red Pill community and the Manosphere have been dissecting for a long time now. I generally don’t like to get too wrapped up in current events until more information develops about an incident I think is relevant to how the Red Pill (as it correctly applies to intersexual dynamics) is perceived in mainstream society. It’s easy to make mistakes so if I miss anything here please feel free to correct me or add to things in the comment thread.
To the best of what I’ve been able to ascertain James Damore posted what mainstream media wants to define as a 10 page “manifesto” (really a ‘memo’) about why it is he believes certain gender/sexual stereotypes persist in the tech field. After reading it, there is really nothing all that shocking from a Red Pill perspective in his essay. If anything, Damore is still deluded by Blue Pill conditioned idealistic hopes for gender equalism not dissimilar to those held by the MRM. Really there’s nothing in this PDF that the Manosphere and even the sexual sciences haven’t been revealing for over a decade now. Damore just had the balls to post it on what Google promoted as an anonymous inter-corporate intranet forum, ostensibly established to allow their employees to voice their opinions and concerns about the company in anonymity. Google is only one of many multi-national companies to have these forums set up in some lame effort to make it seem as if they value the opinions and engagement of their employees.
Now we see just how private and dangerous these forums really are to the livelihood of their employees. To be fair, I doubt that Damore is the first guy to get fired for expressing himself on one of these forums. I’m sure there’ve been countless other men shown the door by many companies with a lower profile than Google. What made Damore a target wasn’t so much Google from a corporate sense, but rather the ‘progressive’ feminine-primary corporate culture that is endemic to Google. Once Damore had published his very well-thought op-ed about the fundamental biological, psychological and neurological differences between men and women, and how this affects innovation and employment in the tech industry, the intra-corporate witch hunt was on for the guy who anonymously posted. No doubt Google code monkeys would have little problem identifying and doxxing James, but where this witch hunt stemmed from was far more likely his co-workers and fueled by the egalitarian-equalist, postmodernist mindset that pervades Google.
This is a snapshot of the Google corporate culture. The last gal, Danielle Brown is Google’s “Diversity VP”.
The official line from Google is that Damore’s “manifesto” constitutes a breach of Google’s code of conduct. Yet for all of Google’s insisting that they respect the right’s of speech within the company, Damore’s doxxing came from within Google’s corporate culture:
The employee memo — which was up for days without action by Google — went viral within the search giant’s internal discussion boards this weekend, with some decrying it and others defending it. Sources said the company’s top execs have been struggling with how to deal with it and the fallout, trying to decide if its troubling content crossed a line.
Apparently it did. In a memo to employees titled “Our words matter,” Google CEO Sundar Pichai said that the employee — who has been named on Twitter, although his identity could not be verified — had violated its code of conduct. (I am not publishing his name, because he — and others who disagree with him — have been threatened with violence online.)
Well, apparently James was doxxed identified and was threatened with violence both from within and without Google now. Thus, the predictable constitutional excuse that ‘you can say what you want, but you’ll be held accountable’ and Google was within its rights to fire Damore doesn’t hold water when Google promoted its internal forum as an anonymous place for employees to provide their input so the company can get honest feedback. I’m not a lawyer, but I think Google’s got a really sticky situation on their hands in that their actions technically constitute entrapment.
Furthermore, I get the feeling that Google’s campus is not unlike many other large corporate cultures – a core of skilled labor that actually puts numbers on the board as far as productivity is concerned working within a larger bureaucracy of basically superfluous positions that define the company’s corporate identity to the world around it. The writing on the wall now, that this skilled labor pool is seeing, is that this bureaucracy set of the company can have them fired for daring to voice a dissenting reality to their own ego-investments. How long before that talent pool opts for a more secure jobs in a corporate culture that looks less like the “people’s” revolution in China?
Now, all that said, James Damore, unwittingly or deliberately, has fallen into the trust-trap that I outlined back in 2013 in It’s Their Game. And while I think he’s got a pretty good case against Google, he had to have understood to some degree that Google owns his Frame. Perhaps this was his intent all along (nowhere have I seen how long he’d been employed there), but he was either very naive or very cunning in his in publishing his ‘memo’. Maybe he thinks this is his Atlas Shrugged moment, or maybe he actually bought the lie that Google (any company) cared about his employee feedback – that fact remains that the Feminine Imperative has assimilated every aspect of western society. The frame in which the overwhelming majority of men depend upon in their corporate, career, job, lives is one into which the Feminine Imperative seized social control over long ago.
For as much as it seems that standing up to systemic, calculated, postmodern ignorance is a heroic act of Red Pill aware defiance, never forget the insistent frame of the system you find yourself in. A lot of men in the ‘sphere like to tout the virtues of being ‘anti-fragile’ enough to weather the inevitable retaliations of the postmodern herd for their dissenting world view, and that may well be the case for a few men, but remember, everyone, with rare exception, is fragile about something – family, respect, integrity, personal relationships, the people who depend on him as well as his revenue (and the capacity to generate more) all apply.
Feminine Correctness
Every social, religious and corporate institution has been saturated with feminine-correctness. It’s important for Red Pill aware men to make this distinction because it will inform your decision making for as long as you remain in most corporate environments. I know many ideological and political factions like to trot out the idea about how they are against “Political Correctness”. That term, PC, has been with us for a long time now and its definition has been passed back and forth along political lines almost interchangeably for decades. Whatever it is one side isn’t allowed to address in public discourse becomes politically incorrect conversation. However, the distinction that conveniently (calculatedly) goes unnoticed is what I described as the Sisterhood Über Alles in my most recent book. Feminine Correctness permeates both sides of the political spectrum, but this is only one social arena amongst many where the appeasement of women’s perspectives as being the only correct perspective has been saturated.
Anyone who’s read my essay, Losing My Religion regarding how the Feminine Imperative has covertly (and recently overtly) assimilated authority of church culture – and ultimately doctrine – in mainstream religion can get an idea of what I’m talking about here with regard to corporate culture. The corporate workplace, big and small, has similarly been assimilated over the course of over six decades now; to the point that a feminine-primary influence has become a de facto authority under the premise of diversity, gender-neutrality and combating a presumed endemic male-sexism. All of which feed into the default, feminine-correct, presumption of female victimhood. Thus, we see the rise of the ubiquitous, almost universally female staffed, Human Resources departments whose true purpose is not about hiring, company morale or corporate culture, but rather an enforcement of feminine-correct initiatives and bylaws intended to give unquestioned authority to the feminine-correct social narrative.
In our modern corporate culture we’ve seen a meta-scale enforcement of what I termed Overseers in the Locker Room in my essay, Male Space:
Overseers in the Locker Room
The second purpose in the goal of female inclusion into male space is really a policing of the thought dynamics and attitudes of the men in that space. When women are allowed access to the locker room the dynamic of the locker room changes. The locker room can take many different shapes: the workplace environment, the sports team, the group of all-male coders, the primarily male scientific community, the ‘boys club’, the group of gamer nerds at the local game store, even strip clubs and the sanctuary you think your ‘man cave’ is – the context is one of women inserting themselves into male space in order to enforce the dictates of feminine social primacy.
When the influence of feminine-primacy is introduced into social settings made up mainly by men and male-interests, the dynamics and purpose of that group changes. The purpose becomes less about the endeavor itself and more about adherence to the feminine-inclusionary aspect of that endeavor. It starts to become less about being the best or most passionate at what they do, and more about being acceptable to the influence of the Feminine Imperative while attempting maintaining the former level of interest in the endeavor.
Men unaccustomed to having women in their midst generally react in two ways; According to their proper feminized conditioning, they embrace the opportunity to impress these ‘trailblazing’ women (hoping to be found worthy of intimacy) with their enthusiastic acceptance of, and identification with, their feminine overseer(s), or they become easy foils of an “out moded” way of thinking that the new ‘in-group’ happily labels them with.
Once the feminine-primary in-group dynamic is established a ‘feminine correct’ social frame follows. This feminine correction restructures the priorities of goals, and validates any accomplishments, in terms of how they reflect upon the feminine as a whole. Thus any in-group success is perceived as a feminine success in male space, while in-group failures or simple mediocrity is either dismissed entirely or blamed on out-group men’s failure to comply with, or the rejection of, the Feminine Imperative’s ‘correcting’ influence on the in-group.
In all honesty, Jame Damore’s rationales in his ‘memo’ were very measured, bordering on Blue Pill, in his attempts to preempt what he obviously knew would be a workplace viral insult. However, his experience is a high-profile illustration of how corporate culture has been taken hostage by a mindset fed and raised by the Feminine Imperative. When you consider that this is the corporate culture of a company dubiously responsible for global access to information – ostensibly legitimate, authoritative information by the larger populace – you begin to see the extent to which the imperative as assumed control not just of our social discourse, but the unquestionable authority to direct the acceptability of personal belief and critical thought.
When I wrote The First Female President, I attempted to reveal just how globally extensive the reach of the Feminine Imperative really was. So encompassing is the presumed understanding of feminine-correctness, so ensaturated is it into our societal subconscious that we tend to take its presence for granted until Hillary (the she) was denied the presidency (to the he). Then the societal scale outrage comes to the surface because what was presumed to be correct is not a universally accepted foreknowledge as their social subconscious had presumed was believed.
That outrage was on a geopolitical social scale, yet it was due to the same presumptions that cause the outrage we see over a kid at Google who dared to say ‘no’ not just to Google’s corporate culture, but to all corporate cultures that have been subsumed by the Feminine Imperative for over 60 years now. That any company would need a Vice President of Diversity is an indictment of how deeply embedded the Feminine Imperative is in corporate culture.
At the hospital, I’ve seen them try to cut costs by cutting the hours of experienced nurses. That can have some catastrophic effects on patient care. I had a friend (she is physician now) who was an ICU nurse and had to quit…though she liked her job but she didn’t feel comfortable being the most experienced nurse on the floor only one year after graduating nursing school. What typically happens is…without experienced nurses to turn to for guidance (and the floors are often very understaffed) accidents increase. Then the management blames it on the nurse, fires that one and hires… Read more »
@kfg
https://www.shmoop.com/moby-dick/chapter-99-summary.html
Worth about $4k or so last I checked.
One thing for sure Blaximus isn’t a SJW.. A modern father having a sort of extinction burst maybe. I have three daughters and when they start bringing home boys that can’t shoot,fish or handle horses,a man starts thinking his daughter is going to be the head of the house. Speaking from experience it starts to look like retirement is out of sight long way off,I want to know how are they going to earn a living,and I keep fixing cars giving jobs paying utility bills buying cars on and on. Eventually these kids figure things out and move up the… Read more »
“Worth about $4k or so last I checked.”
It’s a “collectable.” The price depends on age, condition, etc. The “Moby Dick” doubloon is badly damaged. As a collectable I imagine THE Moby Dick doubloon would be worth more than $4k, but you’d have to deliver it in its original mount for the sake of provenance.
A Sovereign has about the same melt value as a doubloon.
Trivial Addendum:
I see a lot of people about the web confusing doubloons with Pieces of Eight. A Piece of Eight is a silver coin. It has generally gone by another name: Dollar. It’s called Pieces of Eight because it’s value is eight Reals.
An eighth of a Piece of Eight, or one Real, was colloquially referred to as a Bit.
“Smart men try to avoid fighting if there’s no profit in it and there’s no significant loss for avoiding a fight. I’m not talking about sports like boxing or fight club or amateur MMA. I won’t fight to boost my ego.” I was hanging out with a tribal buddy today. We hashed out a couple stories (field reports). One involved a story in which some guy in our social circle did something inappropriate in regards to my wife. Anyone hearing the story man or woman would moralize and say that’s not right (and it certainly wasn’t by any stretch of… Read more »
“One thing for sure Blaximus isn’t a SJW..” Trigger warning: No fucking offense meant dudes. I don’t think he is social justice warrior-ing. But he is most certainly virtue signalling. And I’m not even being judgmental in that regard even though I’m the most judgmental guy I know. SFC Ton is virtue signalling too. And YaNotReally used to do it in spades with the no true gamer doesn’t game only HB8+<25 girls. And my infield is better than your infield. And their is no value in 50 year old women. Etc. Etc. Etc. It's a checkers tactic in discussions. virtue… Read more »
Hi Rollo,
what is the best way to email you to get coaching?
In regards to my last comment, it brings to mind this (which is contextual): “Regarding non-verbal communication, the qualities of an Alpha male are not correlated in anyway with violence or the behavior of a jerk. The Alpha male is generally relaxed and in his non-verbal communication there are no signs of violence. The Alpha male uses violence only in extreme cases and only if there are no other alternatives. One of the most important qualities of the Alpha male is the ability all the time to find with his attitude solutions to problems which provide an alternative to violence.… Read more »
Actually the last comment was in regards to my 8:12 pm comment.
“their is no value in 50 year old women.”
Atleast I didn’t say it this time
Mersonia: You are a dick.
“One more funny thing about the gender gap in those industries is that it’s soon gonna get even bigger with the introduction of AI.” Yes and No. Though chatbots(AI) will eat into Tech support, they tend to be Male heavy because good tech support needs good enough brains. QA is also becoming automation heavy. AI is creeping into all departments and will cut through everyone alike. Only those jobs which require intense specialization might survive. Corporations might start becoming leaner like startups. This might reduce the scale of bureaucratic hierarchy in corps. A la more spec ops, more drones, more… Read more »
Culum Struan August 10, 2017 at 4:47 am “@SJF – Reality Transurfing is on my reading list already on your recommendation – thanks. Sounds like an eye opening book. Push it to the top of your reading list. It is hard. And it is incessant. Read it and weep. What I garner is that your Game is more reserved than it should be. You want to push your Game limits? Do it. Take Action. You got this. Your hurdles to Action are lower than you presume. You are in the competence phases. The book will verify all that. You know.… Read more »
Controlling the frame brings you influence. You save resources when you use influence to achieve your objectives. Hence all the indoctrination in american schools and colleges. This article regarding a corporation controlling the frame and setting a feminine narrative reminds me of my work ex in last decade. FWIW, details below. Due to a market compulsion, I was hired in an organization Say X lead(not owned) by a guy in management say Y. Y always preferred to hire from either interns or contractors made permanent. This was because, Y needed that all the employees subject to his frame but he… Read more »
@SJF
Mersonia: You are a dick.
At least this time he’s being a funny dick.
LOL can it be virtue signalling if you don’t have good character?
If you have an opinion on anything beyond 2+2=4 you are probably virtue signalling
No one is anti working class…. until they step in the voting both and they don’t vote that way to stick it to working class folks directly ( not most folks for sure) but that’s how it plays out
And it plays out that way because all groups are in so,e version of conflict with all other groups. Economic tribal group vs other ecconmic tribal groups; racial tribal group vs the other racial tribal groups, one sect of Christianity vs some other, West vs East islam vs everyone, men vs women etc etc etc
Tribalism, conflict, strife, various versions
Of war like trade and politics and over military operations etc etc is all apart of the human condition. Some things are more subtle, some overt but it is every group vs every other group all day every day
@kfg
Your post about the disrespect in social circles hot home.
All week I was fuming after my boss undermined me. I called him out and he said we’d discuss it. I left it and got busy.
I realized my ego was hurt more than anything else. When I realized how a concerto nation would play out and the damage it would do longer term I decided to wait it out Until the time is right to bring it up again.
Being a hot head isn’t alpha it’s often reckless.
Keeping ones cool…that’s tougher.
conflict is part of humanity, and it’s not a bad thing, it’s how our species survives and evolves; so like Ton said, it’s how we *are* and that’s not a problem, it’s a feature people get caught up in things like whites vs blacks, poor vs rich, Reps vs Dems, etc. as the source of problems and if we just came together and discussed it out, held hands, hugged, sang folk songs, blah blah blah everything would be sunshine and daisies; but then I remember that even when all that shit is removed, we still will find something to fight… Read more »
Having a crappy boss can be a very good learning experience. What not to do, as a leader.
Maybe I’m being Captain Obvious pointing that out, but it’s pretty surprising to me how many people experience bad leadership, hate it, and then go on to make the same mistakes, with the same poor results.
Disrespect doesn’t engender trust and everyone values their time.
Back in college, my spouse had a room mate. The room mate’s friends were in town and he was invited out to the bar with them. One of the friends was kind of a dick to a guy in the parking lot as they were walking out. A few of that guy’s friends walked over and it looked like a fight was imminent (which kind of annoyed my spouse since he didn’t even really know these people). But, he stood his ground. The roommate chose this point to make an exit (he “needed to use the bathroom”). There was no… Read more »
It’s a misrepresentation to say that fighting or violence is ego investment ( that phrase again ) as a whole. People don’t like violence and it frightens them or makes them uncomfortable. I always say that if you want a reduction in violence as a whole, teach all men to fight when young and arm everyone. This became apparent to me in highschool in Virginia. Practically everyone was armed with hand guns and rifles, but no one got shot. Ever. People would even fight with sidearms in holsters and never pull them. The organized push back against violence does any… Read more »
The most violent places in America are places that make it virtually impossible to legally defend yourself.
I live in such a place. I’m heavily armed. No problems ( so far ). Cops hate me….lol.
“It’s a misrepresentation to say that fighting or violence is ego investment ( that phrase again ) as a whole.”
I’m not talking as a whole. I’m talking about contextual situations.
It’s a misrepresentation to summarize what I said like that.
When fighting or violence is used because of and for defending ego investments: then it is weakness. In and of itself, fighting or violence is sometimes necessary for defense or aggression.
Example of making a tough guy your bitch Al, Bob, Carl, and Dylan are drinking in a bar. Bob is very drunk and pisses off Al, who is very mean and psychopathic. Al also wants to dominate Carl. Al grabs a bottle and hits Bob in the back of the head and lifts his wallet. Bob is knocked unconscious, but when he wakes up, he is very angry about being attacked and losing his stuff. Dylan and Carl are enemies. Dylan and Al are buddies, so Dylan tells Bob that Carl hit him. Bob envies Carl and dislikes Carl, so… Read more »
I don’t necessarily agree with Sebastian Junger in his liberal politics, but in his book Tribes he had a unique perspective about the current discussion going on here. I don’t disagree with Blaximus’ empathy for those in the working class. I don’t disagree for the egregious sins of politicians and the wealthy profiteers. (I dislike the equating caring and empathy for the “working class” as praxeology or actually improving things for the big fucking tribe as a whole. Or that rich profiteers are actually in charge enough to harm the working class.) I like his take on the perspective of… Read more »
The professional class created cars to stick to the working class who needed jobs making horseshoes and wagons.
The professional class created computers to reduce office staff.
The professional class created factory automation to stick it to the working class who had manufacturing jobs.
Technology is the stick used to beat the working class.
Anytime there’s pain, blame an enemy who had nothing to do with causing the pain.
@SJF I don’t disagree with Blaximus’ empathy for those in the working class. Why? Ton says we should be loyal to our economic tribe and those in the UMC are in conflict with the working class. If Ton is correct, then it seems to me that Blax ought to switch his loyalty. Fuck, if Ton has moved into the UMC and is making more money than many of them are, why is he maintaining loyalty to the working class? I don’t disagree [about] the egregious sins of politicians and the wealthy profiteers. Cosign. I agree with Blax that there is… Read more »
for those into stats and citations, good stuff here related to the latest string of comments here: https://areomagazine.com/2017/08/09/assessing-female-mate-preferences-answers-to-ten-common-criticisms-of-evolutionary-psychology/ – “it is a mistake to pit postmodernism and social constructivism against evolutionary psychology as though they are in an intellectual death match that only one side can win. This tribalistic, us-versus-them thinking isn’t helpful to science.” – “To say a behavior is learned in no way undermines the claim that the behavior was organized by evolution because the behavior was learned through the agency of evolved mechanisms. If natural selection had built a different set of learning mechanisms into an organism,… Read more »
“here’s my edge case to illustrate: take a family with 3-4 sons; according to some SJWs, these guys should have no reason to squabble and fight…. no racial, gender, genetic, tribal, religious or significant differences to spark a dustup; and yet it happens anyway, because then it’ll be who gets the remote control or the last slice of pizza; as humans, we will find *something* as justification for our natural competitive tendencies” it’s more bout getting the Ol Geezer’s stuff when he kicks and even more about assuming his power. At the end of the day it is power. Power… Read more »
“I don’t disagree with Blaximus’ empathy for those in the working class.” Why? The kiss of death for a physician in terms of judgement by a patient is when the patient senses the physician “doesn’t care about him”. The physician can have all the “command presence” of a policeman, but he damn well better have the sub communication skills to telegraph empathy for a patient’s frustrations. If a patient doesn’t feel “cared for” he will abandon all prescriptives. Could be real or could be a Game tactic, but it is a real factor in human interpersonal interactions. It’s like the… Read more »
I know the commentators are no longer (if ever) interested in Rollo’s topic, but unbelievably it is still being discussed in the mainstream media:
http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valleys-liberal-bubble-has-burst-2017-8
Now back to the inner/outer intentions of the UMC in resolving currency issues with guns
@ Dr. Zipper …sitting around on my ass ’cause life is perfect and there’s no more reason for improvement? that sounds like life without a purpose and is about as good for you as eating cotton candy for each meal; this is how a women and children think, not a man. First chapter of The Way of the Superior Man: Stop Hoping for a Completion of Anything in Life Most men make the error of thinking that one day it will be done. They think, “If I can work enough, then one day I could rest.” Or, “One day my… Read more »
@walawala: That was SJF, although I have before addressed the issue. Alphas avoid fights where they can, especially with other alphas, because even for the winner they are likely to be too costly. The guy who is always “looking for a fight” is a Beta trying to prove the chip on his shoulder. I would disagree that the integrity of SJF’s group has been maintained. There is a matter of lingering resentment. That lingering resentment means that the group is operating in a critically damaged condition. See Ton’s story of the “accidental” shooting. One way or another, that issue must… Read more »
What is the opposite of schadenfrude?
Cis privileged white rich American banker villafied by all sides post exoneration in Putney Pusher incident.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/crime/first-images-of-putney-pusher-released/
Just a narrative looking for a home…
Redlight, earlier in the week Damore was the subject of the main editorial in the Wall Street Journal along with one other editorial. It looks like some of the business press is touching base with actual science, rather amazing. Damore has shown that the Emperor has no clothes.
“I would disagree that the integrity of SJF’s group has been maintained. There is a matter of lingering resentment. That lingering resentment means that the group is operating in a critically damaged condition. See Ton’s story of the “accidental” shooting. That is an accurate assessment of the situation. General frustration within the group was always there to begin with. It wasn’t a survival band of men. It had less than perfect integrity to start with (because of self interests having priority). And the guy that felt slighted was not dismissed with anger or hate. But he still has a huge… Read more »
“Deficient masculinity is simply a lack of strength, courage or mastery.”
In my buddies case I didn’t find him wanting in strength or courage. I did think his mastery of dealing with the situation didn’t measure up to my judgmental standards. He wanted to fight like a 25 year old in the situation of a 50 year old.
Updates on the story…
http://read.bi/2wDQrfD
http://read.bi/2vPnWxS
http://read.bi/2uyutNR
@anon reader
I think that Damore was actually on purpose (pre-planned with strong financial support), part of what I call the current civil war. This is based on how cleverly the memo is crafted to hit trigger points while saying something else, and the equally clever and fast legal response to his termination.
Now back to discussing why Rollo occasionally mentions Aunt Giggles and IB, it must be a love/hate “always on my mind” relationship
People don’t like violence and it frightens them or makes them uncomfortable.
…………
There is a word for people like that; pussy
I know this might sound like splitting hairs and maybe it is Ton…. a distaste for violence can be healthy and self-preserving, at times the situation rightly calls for violence and the pussy doesn’t have the courage to overcome his distaste to do what it takes
Large scale I don’t see how this Damore deal is going to make any difference. Right now I am sitting back, waiting to see how things play out which will likely take 18 months or more
Violence, money, Game etc all….. nothing but tools. Might not be your favorite tool but very few men have that level of understanding
@zipper This tribalistic, us-versus-them thinking isn’t helpful to science So competition isn’t helpful when studying nature? the claim that the behavior was organized by evolution How can evolution organize anything? the behavior was learned through the agency of evolved mechanisms Since when do mechanism of any kind have agency? that organism would learn a different set of behaviors in response to the very same environment” Learning implies cognition as opposed to hard-wired instinctual behaviors…I don’t think that social insects can learn anything. – “a behavior can be, at one and the same time, ‘cultural’, ‘learned’ and ‘evolved’” and that’s where… Read more »
got it, you’re coming from knowing how to use violence, totally right; I was off somewhere else spouting about overcoming fears being the determination of pussy, please ignore
People don’t like science and it frightens them or makes them uncomfortable.
There’s a word for people like that…”pussy”
Sometimes I kill me…
“Large scale I don’t see how this Damore deal is going to make any difference.” Large scale is not the provenance of The Red Pill. I think it advances the cause greatly for the burgeoning ground swell of The Red Pill. It helps the cause of the red pill aware men “that just get it”. There’s less guessing of motive now. Which the mainstream media can’t quite target yet: chastising Damore for showing up quickly in “alt-right” venues like J. Peterson and S. Molyneux Youtube videos. Give the retarded media a noose and they’ll hang themselves. The already shot themselves… Read more »
Naw Dr, you made a legit point
Sometimes I kill me
……..
We couldn’t be that lucky
I really enjoyed playing with explosives when studying chemistry. I even pranked the chemistry students by putting contact explosive on the steps of the science hall right before they entered to see a science show. XD
Sometimes I kill me
……..
We couldn’t be that lucky
I feel the love.
I had a negative experience with the FI in the corporate world. My former boss while he was still my boss reamed out our department at the behest of HR (a woman) because some of the women in the company (who he never actually called women but went on for a long time using politically correct jargon) had complained to HR that they had not been treated equally by men in the department.
A clear ST.
can’t explain it to you asd nor defend it, just seemed like something to give thought to…. would be interested in your take as a statement; what you just presented reads more like intentional obtuseness followed by casually dismissing it; there’s a shitton of citations and it’s fairly logically written
you kinda sound like them googlers and sjws auto-reflexing that damore dude
@zipper
My comment was serious criticism in a playful tone. I could be very sarcastic, but I’ve had enough sparring for a while.
”Example of making a tough guy your bitch Al, Bob, Carl, and Dylan are drinking in a bar. Bob is very drunk and pisses off Al, who is very mean and psychopathic. Al also wants to dominate Carl. Al grabs a bottle and hits Bob in the back of the head and lifts his wallet. Bob is knocked unconscious, but when he wakes up, he is very angry about being attacked and losing his stuff. Dylan and Carl are enemies. Dylan and Al are buddies, so Dylan tells Bob that Carl hit him. Bob envies Carl and dislikes Carl, so… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGXkPVw93A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrxZcRSweWE
Jordan Peterson Interview questions…
https://pigeonhole.at/F94S6Y
Saving your humanity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Z4fBiM3Jc
Looking into your humanity
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@anon Who dat Bob? I dunno him no mo. @Ton I get it that lots of elections are rigged between Tweedledum and Tweedledumber, so we are only given the illusion of choice. Why do you blame UMCs for that? Maybe because they give money to the Republican Party? Even when I was UMC, I never gave those bastards a dime. If a local candidate gives me strong creds for being right wing, I might let him put up a yard sign. Most engineers and IT types come from LMC, so it’s absurd for another LMC to shit on them. Those… Read more »
Everyone needs to read Matt Forney’s article about denial of freedom of speech at Charlottesville…the smokescreen is the stories about the attack there using a vehicle.
https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/2386731/posts/1558111936
Oops, should have given the direct link to the Unite the Right rally:
http://mattforney.com/new-article-return-kings-unite-right-rally-charlottesville-shut-city-government-violent-leftist-allies/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MattForney+%28Matt+Forney%29
Murder isn’t a free speech issue.
Justify all you like but running people down with a car Isis style ain’t the way to go. Pointing to articles defending it says a lot. If blm are dickheads for fomenting attacks, what makes Charlottesville different? Because you happen to agree?
Not free speech. Something else. Don’t sugarcoat and obfuscate.
This is the danger in all of the foaming mouthed left/right bullshit. Idiots with minimal brainpower get way too spun up on both sides of the equation. There are times to fight and be extreme, but ” rallies ” aren’t one of them.
Nothing more to say on this. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Blax, your comment was more predictable SJW socialist smokescreening. The driver of the car wasn’t even associated with the event. The important issue is that the Charlottesville authorities wouldn’t even allow the rally speakers to attend the rally. Even the fucking liberal ACLU supported the rally organizers.
You’re starting to look like just a clever troll.
@zipper Maybe you don’t get my point. The pop-science article writers attribute all sorts of cognitive abilities to things that don’t have cognition. Total pop-science fantasy. Likely what the pop-science writers wrote is not what actual evo-psych researchers would say at all. But I could be wrong…maybe even the evo-psych researchers are living in fantasyland. Biology isn’t just about tooth and claw…it’s also about symbiosis and cooperation, not only within social groups, but also between species (e.g., birds that clean the teeth of crocs or lichens, where a fungus and algae sustain each other). Tribalism and competition aren’t the only… Read more »
Lol. Sure, you’re right and well informed as always.
asd – you’re the arbiter of what’s good/bad science? lol pop-science? did you read it? if so, let’s hear about it; the author (a PhD/professor, not a click bait yellow journalist) also contributes to https://evolution-institute.org/ which I don’t know if it’s good or bad yet — still exploring — but it’s certainly another source to consider when most of the other sources are op-ed hatchet pieces using admittedly pop-sci cherry picking (you’d be right about that); the site also has tons of other articles that have direct impact on TRM topics, usually with and evo-psych bent and the only point… Read more »
The quality of your life is determined by the quality of questions you ask yourself. (I didn’t come up with that, but it’s something I agree with) So, for instance, “How much money can I make?” is a different question from “How much money do I really need to be happy? The first question leads to a different perspective, and different outcome, from the first. I’ve known people in all measures of the rich spectrum. My spouse roomed with a person a few months back (on a hunting trip) who is richer than the queen of England (net worth well… Read more »
Why should we bother ?
Sundar Pichai , some new stupid and ugly black-ass, has infiltrated good company and it will go to the drain for sure. Good news fir small white vendors.
a long time ago I befriended a man that is one of those natural alphas, not just with chicks either; he is a big dude, was a state champ wrestler, good looking country boy that wasn’t shy/embarrassed about only having a 3rd grade education; sure wasn’t rich but just as surely, did whatever the fuck he wanted; and this was part of his charm, he has excellent people skills and could sell ice to an eskimo; reads people like he has some sort of closed captioning view of people that others couldn’t see; always seems to put himself in the… Read more »
The most important things to understand about that raly are
Aftina, the media, the police and all levels of government will cooperate to shut down free speech for Southern White men. They will also stand by and allow the aftina types to attack you but step In and shut shit down when you are getting the upper hand of the anti White aftina fucks
Yup Dr. Game equals social skills. No matter how you come about said Game
@zipper
The article was pop science…written to a popular audience…researchers clean up that kind of language for professional publications. His credentials don’t affect my criticism of his language and sloppy thinking.
@ton
step In and shut shit down when you are getting the upper hand of the anti White aftina fucks
Don’t rely on knives if guns are being used at distance…antifaggots were probably hoping for this escalation, though…I don’t feel sorry for the leftists that were injured.
I’m sure they were elitists…wealthy out the ass.
okay, doubling down on holding frame lol
I’d love to play poker with you, it would jump me up to UMC so fast you’d never even notice my overalls and dirty fingernails reaching in to take the pot
Lol @ ASD talking tough from his armchair.
Found this
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/13/james-damore-google-memo-youtube-white-men-radicalization
anon
If they were women:
Al: ”That’s a cute story. Did you know that sometimes I wear stilettos to bed?”
Ah, that could be a fun question.
“What kind of shoes would you wear to bed?”
Or
“What kind of heels would you wear to bed?”
or
“Have you ever worn heels to bed?”
Smirk as required.
I don’t consider myself a white supremist or a trump fan,mostly been too busy trying to survive and to poor to pay attention. I do label the rabble rousers as anti Trump facists and having been in ES and to managment meetings I wouldn’t get involved in public displays or riots at this time. After reading General lee’s history,it is apparent that the removal of his statue and the renaming of the memorial is misguided and misinformed. By all rights Lee was a reasonable man that went from presidential advisor to confederate officer overnight not wanting to bear arms against… Read more »
theasdgamer
August 12, 2017 at 11:45 am
People don’t like science and it frightens them or makes them uncomfortable.
and
Maybe you don’t get my point. The pop-science article writers attribute all sorts of cognitive abilities to things that don’t have cognition.
The article dr. zipper pointed to has over 100 footnotes from journals. Hardly a “pop science” article, if one actually reads it. Maybe that’s why asd can’t or won’t read it?
The irony is obvious.
@stuff
Trump is correct in saying that both sides need to shut it down , don’t be surprised when the fed shuts things down,to nip it in the bud.
Only the right wing will be shut down by the powers that be…the rock and bottle throwers will continue to throw rocks and bottles because they are politically correct
@Rugby
From where I stand Sam Levin and the Guardian represent radical feminism,claiming that Damore was radicalized by the dark corners of the webs and that Jordan Peterson is a radical.
Not saying that there aren’t dark corners of the web,like facebook or dating services. At this time it is the assumption of the first amendment that we can hear,read,watch and decide for ourselves,decide wisely.
@Anonymous Reader
From the About page of areomagazine: “We’re an opinion + analysis magazine focused on current affairs”
Yeah, I’m sure the article was peer reviewed.
/sarcasm off
Don’t be fooled by citations. Clearly the article didn’t receive even the slightest amount of critical attention other than be a few readers. Normally peer review would catch glaring errors.
@zipper
I’d love to play poker with you, it would jump me up to UMC so fast you’d never even notice my overalls and dirty fingernails reaching in to take the pot
I’m pretty skilled at spotting tells, so, you’d probably want me working with you.
@Blax
Lol @ ASD talking tough from his armchair.
lol, keep your seat in an upright position for landing
@ASD
As long as they don’t try calling me cisgender we won’t have a problem.
asd
Yeah, I’m sure the article was peer reviewed.
Strawman.
/sarcasm off
Don’t be fooled by citations.
Really? Why?
Clearly the article didn’t receive even the slightest amount of critical attention other than be a few readers.
How do you know that?
Normally peer review would catch glaring errors.
Looks like all the references cited were peer reviewed. Why are you so scared of science?
Funny how normally smart people get all unglued when they think you’re attacking their religion…lots of people have a religious devotion to the Idea of Evolution ™
I wasn’t attacking evolution…or even evo-psych…merely offering a few criticisms of the quoted sections
@AR
You wouldn’t know science from shinola
Funny how people here have gone all gamma when I just make a few observations.
My 8 year old grandaughter came home from second grade telling me all about the genders that she learned in school then she asked me what am I since you can choose your gender. I told her that I am a man,she said no you are cis meaning you are happy the way you are or some such,I just laughed and told her to call me grandpa. Then explained to her that there are boys and girls and if you want to play with them they can be whatever they want cowboys ,indians,army,balerinas or princesses whatever it is makebelieve and… Read more »
@ stuff ” I don’t consider myself a white supremist or a trump fan,mostly been too busy trying to survive and to poor to pay attention. I do label the rabble rousers as anti Trump facists and having been in ES and to managment meetings I wouldn’t get involved in public displays or riots at this time. After reading General lee’s history,it is apparent that the removal of his statue and the renaming of the memorial is misguided and misinformed. By all rights Lee was a reasonable man that went from presidential advisor to confederate officer overnight not wanting to… Read more »
Asd
I wasn’t attacking evolution…or even evo-psych…merely offering a few criticisms of the quoted sections
Asd
You wouldn’t know science from shinola
ASD
Funny how people here have gone all gamma when I just make a few observations.
Another fine demonstration of irony. Lost that fidget spinner again? Maybe someone can get a new one for you.
Blaximus
I don’t know anyone that’s in favor of this that’s over 40 years old.
Well, there you go. All that helicopter parenting and “you’re so speshul” snowflaking for the last 20 or so years is really paying off, isn’t it?
Once the SJW’s in Virginia get done with Confederate statues I expect them to go after Jefferson next. It is in fact all about erasing history.
Here’s an except from the paper that scares ASD so badly: In another real-world test of women’s mate preferences for status, Guéguen and Lamy[56] conducted a naturalistic experiment to evaluate whether women’s reactions to a request for their phone number are affected by men’s apparent status (in this case, driving different types of cars). When a potential participant was a few yards away they had a male experimental confederate (one of six male confederates pre-selected for high physical attractiveness) open his car door and look the participant in the eyes and smile. Then he approached her and said: “Hello, my… Read more »
@ASD Don’t normaly waste much virtual ink,if these are the quotes from DZ that you are dissing then I will agree with these premises and Doctor Zipper. https://areomagazine.com/2017/08/09/assessing-female-mate-preferences-answers-to-ten-common-criticisms-of-evolutionary-psychology/ – “it is a mistake to pit postmodernism and social constructivism against evolutionary psychology as though they are in an intellectual death match that only one side can win. This tribalistic, us-versus-them thinking isn’t helpful to science.” – “To say a behavior is learned in no way undermines the claim that the behavior was organized by evolution because the behavior was learned through the agency of evolved mechanisms. If natural selection had… Read more »
@Blax
Maybe they could move Lee’s statue to the Arlington cemetery, He would be at home there.
The more I think about the collapse of the western culture and the removal of the white male from his leadership role in his society, the more scared I become about what is going to happen to the rest of the world at large.
cheupez
When any male is demonized and marginalized, that society will collapse. It starts in pockets and left unaddressed, spreads. Once maximum velocity is reached, Boom!!!