
I got an interesting comment from regular reader Hollenhund about 2 weeks ago and rather than reheat that thread I thought it deserved a post. I’ll get to that comment in a bit, but the original topic was how Red Pill awareness, or really the Red Pill Lens, applies in different social contexts. I think there’s a misconception about how relevant a Red Pill understanding is in different social environments, ethnic cultures, religious cultures or even what might seem niche or “alternative” subcultures.
It’s no secret I post on a few of the Christo-Manosphere blogs, but this is really just one social subset of the Red Pill. This is just one of a myriad of other social situations I put myself into with a Red Pill perspective. To be honest my natural default is to use a Red Pill lens in most social environments and I consistently use that awareness as a starting point for judging the character of new people I meet.
As a result of my career I’m often asked to organize or make an appearance at promos or product launches in social settings that would likely never occur to me to be a part of. That isn’t to say I don’t enjoy them; I certainly love to do my ‘observational studies’ of intersexual interactions at, say, a martini fest in South Beach, but I don’t think doing a promo at a Goth club around Halloween would occur to me if I weren’t working the event.
However, I’ve found that in all of these very diverse social settings I consistently see the same Red Pill truths, behaviors and motivations predictably play out among the people I work and interact with despite their being bikini models in cocktail dresses or rednecks in wife-beaters and Daisy Dukes. It’s very easy for guys new to Red Pill awareness and Game to think that because the more notable PUAs they see in videos at various clubs are where they’re most successful that they too must emulate this by thrusting themselves into a social environment they’re never going to feel comfortable in.
I’ve covered the topic of domain dependence before, and how it behooves a newly unplugged man to see what social context he finds himself in and understand the limitation of never breaking out of his comfort zone. It stifles a growth and maturity, but similarly I can’t expect a guy to really cast off all his reservations and jump cold turkey into alien social environments in the fashion that my work places me in.
The good news is that you don’t really have to begin in a foreign social environment, at least not at first. I know PUAs like YaReally will stress the importance of getting out in the field and practicing Game – and he’s right, there is no substitute for the education you’ll receive from experience (and failure). However, what that ‘field’ looks like to you can be a great variety of environments.
For example, I sincerely doubt that many religious men would feel comfortable hitting the clubs in Vegas or Miami to practice Game. In fact, Game to them would be limited by their religious convictions, but that Game is still informed by the same Red Pill truth and awareness that Tyler Durden is using in his Game. So what’s to do?
Apply that Red Pill lens, awareness and truth to the social environment you already find yourself in. Game to me as a successful 47 year old creative professional isn’t going to be the same Game or social context you as a 25 year old up and coming anti-millennial will apply. And this is a good thing. One aspect of the manosphere I enjoy is seeing the countless ways in which Red Pill men apply themselves in their various circumstances. It’s very inspiring to see a high school kid and a 55 year old divorced man use the same Red Pill knowledge base to better their lives and achieve relatively predictable results because of it.
One subculture that I’ve been very familiar with for the better part of my life has been the ‘gamer’ subculture. Whether it’s been via my own quirky hobbies or the artists and developers I’ve worked with for years, I’ve been intimately familiar with geek or nerd culture for a very long time. The best part of having had this experience is that I’ve been familiar with it when I was both in my Blue Pill plugged in days and in my Red Pill awakening, to say nothing of being one of the foremost writers in the ‘sphere.
Niche SMPs
I started with all this because I believe it’s relevant to the conversation that got started with Hollenhund’s comment here:
It is rather important when you consider that the majority of the audience for films, video games etc. with the warrior princess trope are probably men. One male fantasy among many is the woman that is girly and feminine in appearance and body shape, but isn’t actually interested in girly stuff, and would rather discuss automatic weapons, martial arts, sports cars, military history etc. after draining your balls. She wears stylish clothes, but would rather go to the shooting range than the mall etc. Lara Croft is a typical example.
Definitely.
I’ve found this trope is most common among the gamer/nerd set. They tend to fetishize the non-conventionally hot “Gamer Girl” or “Geek Girl” who genuinely shares their love of war/video/ roleplaying games, cosplay, Dr. Who, comics, anime, etc. It also has an interesting parallel for guys who are devout sports fans and foolishly build their ideals around a woman who can quote sports stats, loves his team(s) and also loves beer and hot wings as much as himself.
This is what I call a niche sexual marketplace (SMP). As I was saying earlier, just like there are various niche social environs in which to apply Game, there are also niche SMPs that develop within those social contexts. Whether it’s sports, Goth, Christian, nerd, music, etc. or any other culture, the Red Pill truths remain a constant, but the context creates an SMP within it.
This Nerd niche SMP is readily exploited by girls who are otherwise outclassed in a larger SMP by girls who are far more sexy and attention holding. It’s important to remember that Nerd-Space used to be a Male Space that was infiltrated and co-opted by the Feminine Imperative. This infiltration is really standard and formulaic when you consider how the Feminine Imperative has co-opted and assimilated social structures as large as contemporary church culture.
Nerd Space
However, Nerd Space has been even more reformed by the imperative than most other traditionally Male Spaces; so much so that the organic girl-world social dynamics have become an integral part of the male subculture within it. You will never find more hostile a Beta White Knight than in Geek Culture because this Warrior Princess mythology is something they’ve been conditioned to evangelize for for most of their lives.
Embracing and pedestalizing Warrior Princesses is a critical component to a geek guy’s form of Beta Game. It’s ALL about identifying with the feminine and celebrating the fantasy that men and women are not just functional equals, but women are unrealized, patriarchally repressed, Warrior Princesses who (through rampant male idealism) necessarily share a mutual concept of what women should love in men who respect that fantasy with them. The nerd’s fantasy girl is one who finds him irresistible because he believes in women’s unrecognized superiority to male-kind.
There’s a very interesting microcosm within geek subculture that unsurprisingly mirrors virtually every intergender dynamic in larger society. As I was saying before this happens in every subculture – the basic, evolved, Red Pill social dynamics manifest themselves in any human collective – but what’s interesting is that geek culture presupposes that the subculture is founded on principles that make it functionally imune to the larger mainstream culture it considers sexist, racist, xenophobic and cruel. If you look at the social utopia that a franchise like Star Trek hoped to promote you can begin to understand it as a fantasized antithesis to the mainstream collective society geeks consider themselves outcast from.
However, even within a geek culture that despises that mainstream cruelty, AF/BB Hypergamy is still the primary order, but the geek microcosm revolves around making women feel good about themselves to such an exaggerated degree that feminism and fempowerment becomes part of ‘Gaming’ women within that subset. It’s Beta Game on steroids with a lot of ego-invested LARPing (live action role-playing, google it) that’s taken very seriously by the overwhelmingly Blue Pill guys who make up most of it.
Gamer Girl-World
It’s really entertaining to see these guys try to outdo each other when a girl enters that nerd space with even the resemblance of an interest in something nerd related. That glimmer of interest is like throwing a starving man a cracker in the desert most times, and the more conventionally beautiful and sexy she is the greater the effort, or the greater the default despair is for them.
I’ve covered male idealism in a generic sense before, however that idealism (the unhealthy kind) when put in the context of a noble nerd’s fantasy girl – who shares his passions, is considerate of his borderline autism and appreciates his non-patriarchal deference to her – she either becomes something he obsesses over (severe ONEits) or she represents the despair that only an unreachable dream can stir in a man.
That said, semi-attractive gamer girls do exist (nothing more than an HB 7.5 by my reckoning), but most fall into the demographic of ostracized weird girl or semi-goth, fuscia-haired outcast who never clicked with the in-group girls in high school.
Nerd culture represents an environment where a girl’s otherness makes them a prized commodity. Girls who find nerd/gamer culture either on their own or via their ‘cool nerd’ (see Emo-Goth) boyfriend soon discover a social subset whose males pedestalize to an even greater degree than the prissy in-group bitch girls who ostracized them enjoy from men. In fact that pedestalization, that identification, that default deference and autonomous sublimation to the feminine is integral to the nerd culture. So when you combine a gamer girl’s nerd-niche SMP dominance with the overblown pedestalizing most nerds will elevate them to, it recreates gamer girls in the contextual likeness of the in-group girls they despised and never got along with.
Most top shelf gamer girls tend to hook up with the elite, usually Emo, guys in the subculture. The exact same intersexual dynamics remain, but the context changes. All of the fundamental aspects of Hypergamy and social ego inflation remain, but now within a domain dependent environment they can finally exercise their sexual strategies in ways they never could in the social set they’ve been cut away from.
Vox Day had an absolutely brilliant breakdown of female characters in fantasy settings, and what struck me the most was how these archetypes mirrored both the idealized and hated archetype women nerd culture caricatures:
There are three types of women in the world of the Gamma Protagonist: The Corrupted, The Damsel, and The Strong Independent Woman. Average women, in terms of appearance, ability, and moral character, simply won’t exist outside of the occasional passing mention.
- The Corrupted are the female villains of the story who were once good, but were corrupted by men and are therefore not entirely responsible for their evil actions.
- Type one are blonde and athletic who likes athletic, powerful men. They are beyond redemption, and are rude, aloof, and hateful to the GP for no reason.
- Type two are voluptuous, dark seductresses. One of the greatest feats in the story will be the GP’s ability to resist the charms of the insatiable seductress. She will desire him to the point of absurd obsession for no discernible reason.
- The Damsel is an incredibly attractive women who is generally clueless about how attractive she is even though she is approached regularly by men. There will be half-hearted attempts by the author to include some traits of strength, but eventually she will need to be rescued by the GP. At which point, she will fall in love with him, of course.
- The Strong Independent woman is strong and independent. She also finds the GP irresistible because he respects her.
- She is the equal or better of the GP in at least one traditionally masculine ability, usually in physical strength and battle prowess.
- The GP finds it endearing and attractive that she bosses him around regularly, and she loves the arrangement too.
- The love interest of the GP will have large breasts, usually has red hair, and is the one to initiate sex in nearly every instance. She will be perfectly loyal unless corrupted by some sort of magical force or technological device.
I’m dropping this here, because it’s important to understand the Blue Pill analogous truths that manifest in these character types.
The Corrupted represents all the ‘normal’ women who’ve ever rejected or been casually indifferent to the male nerd. The Damsel is generally the foil for the Strong Independent Woman, whose use is only to serve to bolster the SIW’s superiority. The Damsel is also representative of women ignorant of their role under some vaudevillian notion of patriarchy. And the SIW woman is representative of the sexualized ideal that’s been approved for nerd guys to obsess over courtesy of the influences of the Feminine Imperative.
These are the archetypes for idealized (both positively and negatively) women in nerd space. Consequently, and unsurprisingly, these fantasy ideals are challenged by the real-life gamer girls who progressively begin to understand their own sexual market capital within this subculture’s men and, most often, unwittingly feed that beast.
All that said, if this is in fact your cultural subset, and even if not, it’s always important for you as a Red Pill aware man to bear in mind that the same articles of an intersexual marketplace are always present within any social context. Whether you’re in church or the club or your local game/comic book store Hypergamy doesn’t change, the game doesn’t change, only its contextual parameters change. Roissy had a great quote in the 16 Commandments of Poon (emphasis mine):
XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses
In the betterment of ourselves as men we attract women into our orbit. To accomplish this gravitational pull as painlessly and efficiently as possible, you must identify your natural talents and shortcomings and parcel your efforts accordingly. If you are a gifted jokester, don’t waste time and energy trying to raise your status in philosophical debate. If you write well but dance poorly, don’t kill yourself trying to expand your manly influence on the dancefloor. Your goal should be to attract women effortlessly, so play to your strengths no matter what they are; there is a groupie for every male endeavor. Except World of Warcraft.
Gamer girls may not have been the type to pine for the high school quarterback, but they do pine for his functional equivalent in Nerd Space. Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks are equally relevant and equally subject to a woman’s capacity to optimize on them in Nerd Space. Her SMV may be artificially inflated within that context, but the mechanics remain the same. Everything you learn here or on any other Red Pill blog or forum is universally applicable in any social context – it’s up to you as a skilled and aware practitioner to observe the particulars of your environment, contrast it with Red Pill truths and apply Game accordingly.
For further reading see The Contextual Alpha.

@Blaximus Heheh, you totally fucking missed the point. Based on the two videos you posted in your comment @1:00 PT, you are totally missing the point (but I repeat myself) of Tyler allegedly staring down the other one and then two guys in the “Tyler’s most important lesson to a Happy Life” video and the exercise he is demonstrating. He is demonstrating Applied Kinesiology and the concept that social conditioning is in totally in our head. He is not demonstrating stare down tactics for gaming men or women. He is demonstrating a lot of life (including gaming women) is a… Read more »
During my prep for Hurricane Sandy, my wife only started getting concerned when she saw the level of prep that I was going to. I figured we’d be without power for a few days ( it was 5 ),and that we’d be stuck in the house for a while ( 2 days ), and that there would be debris all over the place ( more than I could have imagined ). While I was tying down everything in the backyard, she stood on the deck one day and said ” ..Are we going to be okay honey?”. She was seriously… Read more »
@digireaper Its not a question of whether your friends and familiy will help you out or not. They will ACTIVELY try to PREVENT you from changing. There are very few people who will help you to make dramatic changes in your life. You will most likely loose your current friends, and it will take many years for your family to come to terms with how you have changed. As far as switching jobs, that’s hardly a big deal. You have a degree and experience in your field. Its no biggie to switch for a few years to a more social… Read more »
@Sentient “Concur… if you are going to shade, shade on the side of shit testing… Real comfort tests are pretty rare… Heh, Sentient, thanks for you and HABD pointing this out here in this thread. I get it because you guys are spelling it out. I don’t disagree with the concept at all. I do also understand that there needs to be a calibration to an individual man’s resources, value in a relationship (Not blow up a good thing–wise) and mastery over the tactics. In other words, sometimes a guy has to dig himself out of a hole and not… Read more »
The only flaw I see in this is that it ignores the huge set of males that play video games and expect women who game to step up and not throw their pussy around trying to manipulate males into treating women different and *special* simply because they are women. I’ve seen it in many online gamer groups that I’ve been involved in. Either the women “game up” and prove they are really gamers, or they leave, because no one is validating their desires to use their pussy to control other men in the group by seeking special treatment due to… Read more »
@fleezer 3. weights. I walk in with a list of lifts, totally concentrate and later realize that I didn’t have a single thought go through my head that wasn’t about breath, movement or the pump for 30 minutes. fucking bliss. it is a constant process. puas would call it an “external” but from my pov it it simply a representation of awesome levels of internal dedication and drive. when guys say, “just lift, bro” it’s the methodical process they’re talking about and it applies to everything a guy does. success breeds success. set personal records in the rack, the bedroom… Read more »
@ SJF I got what the exercise was, I was mostly pinging off of Ya’s commentary… ” This will seem pretty woowoo at first but the key thing to pay attention to is Tyler’s eyes. Watch his eyes in every single demonstration he does and you’ll see him focusing with INTENSE locked on eye-contact. You’ll see the students fluster and fidget and move around and if you watch Tyler’s eyes you’ll see his irises following their eyes no matter how they shift their heads as he basically locks on and peers into their core. You’ll see similar eye-contact here: TYSON… Read more »
@Blaximus A certain measure of comfort is required in marriage. A genuine hug to calm anxiety and the like. A display of masculinity. Good shit. Each couple will have their own level of comfort providing, but men must be aware of too much comfort because that may turn you into a tampon. Not a goal or a good look. Once again, I see no conflicts At All with the Blaximus/SJF call for responding to comfort tests with comfort or the Sentient/HABD call for everything being a shit test. Odd but true. It is just guys writing their own scripts for… Read more »
@Blaximus
I understand that you are riffing more off the videos YaReally first posted and I was riffing more off the videos you posted at 1:00 PT. The Tyler one you posted was what I was commenting on. This, what you said was the point of the Tyler vid you posted: “I still maintain that men would be amazed at what they are capable of.”
I was busy and couldn’t watch the ones YaReally originally posted.
“Good to have camaraderie with fellow men, bad to get in total strangers faces right off and eye-fuck them. Lol, for lack of a better phrase.” or try to “scold” them for their behavior like you’re the mother hen of the party there to make sure everyone else displays proper manners while you face fuck wasted girls in the shitter. there is a club near me where someone has been shot, not beat up – SHOT, every month since it’s been open. sometimes dudes just fire randomly into the front windows for fun. some guys don’t give a shit about… Read more »
@ SJF I just reposted the Tyler vid from Ya’s original post, and added my own Tyson vid for sh1ts and giggles as an example of intimidation 101. I agree with Tyler’s overall point. I just disagree with Ya’s initial description. Ya and I are in agreement, or should I say, I agree with Ya 90% of the time. And I watch the vids he puts up even though I’m not going out to pick up chicks. On purpose. Lol. But every once and a while, the Tyler Love is a bit dry and sticks in my throat. Now he’s… Read more »
@ Fleezer
Daaammmmmnnnnn bro.
” and I don’t believe that men are capable of doing or getting virtually anything they want with the proper mindset….. and lifting. : )”
Oooopppsss.
I mean ” I DO belive that men..etc. etc. etc….”
“I agree with Tyler’s overall point. I just disagree with Ya’s initial description.” OK Blax. Got it. Sorry to waste the other million guys time reading the comments. Ya started the video @ 2:20 and narrowly focused on the dominance and eyeing. (There is a feature youtube when posting videos called “copy video url at current time, which Ya used.) I watched when you repasted it from 0:00. Totally different context, which I riffed on–weak frame and protection vs. expansion and the ideas of David Hawkins. But Heh, I totally learned something about mindset. And reflected on what I went… Read more »
@fleezer
Those are the clubs I (and Tyler I’d wager) avoid. You can find just as much pussy in clubs that aren’t like that without risking a gunfight.
@ Sun Lol, but it can be such a rush. When I was younger ( and less wise..) there was no club I wouldn’t walk into. Hell, I walked into a bar in Alabama once festooned in confederate flags and it was almost like that 48 hours scene… I just believe that a grown man should not talk the talk if he’s incapable of walking the walk. There’s nothing wrong with ” safety “. That shit’s highly rated for good reason. But there’s an awful lot wrong with fear. That shit’s highly overrated. Dudes can choose whatever venue they like,… Read more »
“game is amazing but guys should remember a few things. all these puas were social outcasts in their formative years. they came to the party late and their deep resentment will never be alleviated, no matter how many worn out sluts they fuck.”
Fleezer… come now, let’s not go crazy…
Ran into this, I avoid anti-redpill reddits and shit so it’s the first time I’ve seen redpill characterized by an ‘outsider.’ It’s pretty surreal to see, like I just see a bunch of mostly cool guys trying to help each other and another guy sees this.
http://i.imgur.com/OtPLZ63.png
@Ya – I did a lot of training around intention and self-expression and leadership long before game and all the Tyler stuff resonates deeply. I think @Blax you are missing that he’s demonstrating in an exercise, not suggesting you go stare down random guys aggressively. Get that the INTENTION is everything, not the eye contact. Also get that the intention of a PUA is that he’s not in competition with everyone, he’s feeding off of all the energy – good or bad. Even guys like Fleezer, just being with it powerfully and not being thrown. I can tell you long… Read more »
Okay, kinda
http://i.imgur.com/2od8e0A.jpg
click on it then zoom for embiggening.
IMO the eye contact has gone down in frequency since the intro of pc smart phone ,social media. And seems especially weak among the gamers that I know.I have always attributed this to the addiction to buffers including fapping.
I like those RSD guys,but the proper use of eye contact is a real social dynamic.Maybe there is more to this than the video shows?
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/561739341/the-style-guide-to-divorce-a-book-of-wit-and-wisdo
@ Sentient Real comfort tests are pretty rare for betas, comfort tests are rare…when the SMV differential is 2+ tilted towards the man, comfort tests are common…shooting from the hip…I get comfort tests all the time…Mrs. Gamer thought she smelled perfume on me and started bawling…silly girl, I was out dancing–shock! I might have some perfume on me. I held her and let her cry. For the readers: No, it’s not cruel to make a woman cry–she needs the emotional downs as well as the ups, along with a lot of variety of emotions. Why do girls watch fucking soap… Read more »
@Scribb “Not sure if it’s bicep tendonitis or some other inflammation or injury. the answer seems to the same no matter what. Rest, anti-inflammatory stuff, icing etc. Anyone have any input? I’m all ears.” It’s fairly rare to find, but you could see if you could locate some doctor who’d do cold laser therapy or (my preference) extracorporeal shock wave (ESWT) on the area. Chiros and PT’s seem to be the main early adopters there. But a lot of them are still not too comfortable with the tech. Both of the therapies work by basically tricking the body into thinking… Read more »
@Sentient – Bit to late for Fleezer to not go crazy. Remember, he hits his wife too. He’s got nothing to teach and almost nothing positive to share. And I bet I’ve fucked more hotties than him – stone cold sober ones to boot – so there is that. One of the advantages of having an N of about 100 and then coming to game is that when people try to put you down for it, saying you can’t get laid or whatever, well, you just laugh – I may have more actual lays than Krauser, with Zero game (he… Read more »
Re eye-fucking men
Shit, almost everything that gets posted here I have instant rapport with. I saw one of the big, strong men who threatened to deck me over a stupid girl and I just smiled at him as I walked past him, eye-fucking him. Twice. lol
My ZFG is real. Check out my post about a UMC boy in a blue-collar neighborhood. I fought a lot growing up. I won my share of fights and my opponents were almost always bigger and stronger than me.
@fleezer
so when did tyler first fuck your wife?
Also scribb: “I do want to also point out that the story you are telling about the SMC girl reeks of Oneitis again. And then you write a brilliant comment about how marriage and romance and relationships are all social conditioning – amazing how we can all be so dualistic about shit. Like I said, soft-next her by telling her you want her but not on her terms, so Happy Trails. Either you move on to the next or she comes to you on your terms. By negotiating or cajoling or going along I think you are just playing into… Read more »
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@Forge – Just so you know, your comments are always so interesting and compelling and honest, I’m surprised to hear you say what you did about opening up. Great text game. Reply with: Romeo needs a Juliet, come here now for an audition.
@scribbler yes, provoking shit tests is one way to start building value and attraction FAST. like, if you do it right you can find yourself in a hot potato situation. happened a bit ago where an 8 legit tried to ruin me in set. i was in my favorite situ: merged sets in a venue where i had a plan for iso then bounce and get to a private space within 5-10 minutes. im going to use the example because the shit test and the rejoinder are almost NEVER presented in an IN REAL LIFE way. the most important shit… Read more »
@Forge Re: The Comic
Seeing your opponent as human makes it too hard to hate them. Comics like that turn them in to easily dismissed stereotypes that are easy to hate. Honestly though, I really hope they expect us to seem that way. The fact is that a fully realized Red Pill male won’t be noticed as such. He’ll be too damn likable for the people around him to care.
I, for one, welcome our myopic opponents and their inaccurate stereotypes of my anonymous personality I don’t carry in to the real world.
@Sun
True story bro.
The labels people give redpill are so incongruous to who I am the characterization there could never stick w people I know personally.
This is why propaganda posters existed. No-one wants to drop a bomb on this:
http://nisei.hawaii.edu/docs/IO/7002/img7002.jpg
But this is fine.
http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2010/03/propaganda/Anti-Jap5.png
Scribb, Thanks again. Being open here has served as a bridge into being open irl. But there are still a few things that stick in my craw a bit. When I started game, my huge issues were identifying, not standing up for myself, reveling vulnerabilities, etc. It’s getting better but the pendulum def. swung too far back. I was once very shy/repressed. Then I laid my guts on the road for my first girl, to predictable result. So it’s been all to easy to ‘hide’ again. It’s progressively better tho. The thought of talking sex with a girl is actually… Read more »
What am I supposed to take away from that Tyson interview? The only impression I got is that he’s simply butthurt about anyone bringing up his rape conviction, and that he uses his celebrity status to shit on other men for no good reason. That reporter wasn’t even giving his own opinion, he was citing the entirely justifiable opinion that getting involved with a convicted rapist is probably bad publicity for a mayor, or any politician. That’s an entirely fair point, and I’m sure nobody would even question that if Tyson wasn’t black. Calling him a piece of shit was… Read more »
The point of the vid was to demonstrate intimidation.
And imo, Tyson didn’t rape anybody.
Color is irrelevant, the reporter is black btw.
Lol, Mike Tyson doesn’t get any special celebrity treatment….he was imprisoned for a rape he did not commit. Check facts of the case.
Of course the conviction haunts him.
It’s not in everyone’s personality to respong to slights from other men with demure defferment. I know I don’t irl.
Lol, it’s odd to me that you believe he shits on men for no good reason. would you bait Connor McGregor? Newsflash: fighters are aggressive in nature.
Every man is not the same, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you.
@ kfg
Enjoyed the vid. Takeaway: “Saying, ‘I love you’ to a crazy can buy you a dirt nap.”
“This whole time I’m thinking about TRM and convos about adding value and being in state. It was like being plugged into a euphoria stream ready for anybody with the courage to open and taste it.”
@newlyaloof
The whole adding value / spread good vibes thing has clicked with me recently too. It’s like a switch was flipped in my brain. Positivity helps with being more social, more present, initiating conversations, dhv… etc, etc. It’s a virtuous cycle.
@quixotic “Then start walking toward you place/your car.” “The big one I am going to work on is STEAL HER FRAME – act skittish about sex before she does” Girl from last night I took for a walk around the area and when we had done little romantic makeouts here and there (that got progressively less “romantic” lol) I just walked us in front of my building and used “I know we’re not having sex this time (she had said it a few times, my specific wording implies that there will be more times in the future which is her… Read more »
@Forge – Got your point, but my guess is that you don’t know much about Japanese atrocities during WWII, and how many Japanese and American lives were saved by the decisive bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Here’s a list of just 10 of the Japan’s many atrocities. And a pic of how they left Manila after the U.S. siege of the city in 1945. Somehow that picture of the Japanese family doesn’t capture the 100,000 Filipino civilians they slaughtered in Manila in an orgiastic spasm of evil and needless violence out of frustration over losing the war. http://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/103.jpg Here’s that… Read more »
Scribblerg: “The Japanese killed at least 30 million people during WWII, and quite possibly many more as they so decimated the lands they invaded that govt casualty figures were not kept. So, in fact, the second picture you posted of a snarling animal, bent on mass killing and death is a much better representation of Japan than the one of the smiling, happy family.” Yes. Not a whole lot of people (if there were any at all) who survived the battle of Iwo Jima weren’t elated over those nukes so they didn’t have to go fight on the mainland. And… Read more »
@scribblerg
I don’t think he was questioning the wisdom of dropping the bomb at all. Very few people do, even many Japanese. War propaganda is just the best way to illustrate the point.
2 Ya Really
This is from back in the threads, but there’s a difference between dancing badly and being uninhibited, groovin’ to the music. That’s more like playing around.
If you dance badly, you won’t be attracting anybody.
If you’re groovin’, you’re exuding fun, being entertaining. That can work for you.
The Japanese killed at least 30 million people during WWII, and quite possibly many more as they so decimated the lands they invaded that govt casualty figures were not kept.
The 30 million figure is the result of the Chinese communist government inflating the civilian losses in China to a laughable degree. They have been waging this campaign of historical revisionism and nationalist propaganda since the 90s. It’s standard commie BS.
Color is irrelevant, the reporter is black btw. Lol, Mike Tyson doesn’t get any special celebrity treatment… Nobody would even question the decision of any public figure not to be associated with a white celebrity convicted of rape. But Tyson calls a reporter a POS for quoting the opinion of others that the mayor shouldn’t associate with him, and nobody dares to object. That’s special treatment. And imo, Tyson didn’t rape anybody. That’s irrelevant. What matters is the conviction. It’s not in everyone’s personality to respong to slights from other men with demure defferment. I know I don’t irl. Except… Read more »
@ Hoellen ” And imo, Tyson didn’t rape anybody. That’s irrelevant. What matters is the conviction. It’s not in everyone’s personality to respong to slights from other men with demure defferment. I know I don’t irl. Except that it wasn’t a slight. The reporter quoted the opinion of others, and asked a very obvious and standard question about it. It’s simply not good form to call anyone a POS on live TV, especially when you’re a pampered celebrity insulting someone below you in the social hierarchy. He had no legitimate reason to call him a POS.” Okay. We simply disagree.… Read more »
Actually don’t mind the write-up, Scribb, I always enjoy learning. But Sun’s right, I wasn’t trying to comment on the legitimacy of bombing the Japanese at all – just the mechanisms needed to make it happen.
@Rollo You have done it again! A superb post with excellent analysis which is completely on-point for the current circumstances in which I find myself. A ‘Gamer Girl’ recently declared her interest and desire for me, but is unwilling to make even the slightest commitment towards having a healthy, *normal* relationship. She fits the trope / archetype of being a mix of the ‘Strong Independent Woman’ — the public exterior she portrays to the world at large — and the ‘Damsel in Distress’ (DID) — the persona she reserves for men in whom she has a sexual / intimate interest.… Read more »
So obviously a bit late to the party-the damn ski season out here in NorCal has just been epic, and I’m not the only RP man out here who’s skiing is interfering w/their dating & RM reading. Anyways just wanna say what a cool surprise to learn that the mighty Rollo is knee deep in nerd culture, I’d have never guessed. So I’ve been gaming off & on most of my 44 yrs (I played and remember pong) and I have to say I don’t really buy into the so-called Gamer Girl. Sure there’s nerd chicks w/certifiable geek cards, but… Read more »
[…] Rollo posits that “Nerd culture represents an environment where a girl’s otherness makes them a prized commodity.” He goes on to suggest that these girls may have been outcompeted in the popular SMP. Which does hold true in many ways. However, in my personal experience, it is not quite so simple. Not all OGs will leave the popular SMP, still playing or competing in it even once they have opted out of every facet of modern society. Many, possibly around half, of opt-out OGs are average or below and seeking a field where they have better leverage. Yet at… Read more »
@scribblerg Your posts of 4 March at 7:24pm — the video of Scott (who has cystic fibrosis) and at 7:29pm — the X2 lyrics: wonderfully on-point and inspiring. Half the troubles we face as men is in dealing with the ephemeral and mutable nature of women: the other half is in doubting or feeling sorry for ourselves when we don’t get the *outcomes* we had hoped for. While I can’t do anything about the former (women are as women do (not as they say they do), I can damn-well do something about the latter! So, if I am not doing… Read more »
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“So it seems that women were driven to play games because it improved their self-perception as a high quality romantic partner.”
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Real late but the ‘best of’ and this post reminded me of this: https://youtu.be/K6qFxUcplQ4?t=19m29s A little background, that chicks does the voice of a very popular character from a very popular tv show. As Heartiste would put it she is an eternal ingenue and constantly acts precocious the whole video. The guy is an interesting fellow that i find entertaining but he is in no way a player and gives no indication he actually understands women. In the time stamp of the video she gives a classic shit test and he passes it effortlessly, i literally don’t think he even… Read more »
Having been something of a failed geek, growing up. I was always susceptible to the gamer girl archetype. I could see through every other type of woman, other than her. For some reason I believed this type of woman to be the NAWALT variety. Last year I got talking to a woman who was staying at the same hostel as myself. She was the typical gamer girl. Not an ounce of make up and plain speaking. Neither was she pretty. Average if anything. I have a very cut and dried view of things. Make up to me is a form… Read more »
Seems I won’t ever be able to win with anything involved with women. I’ve spent so much time bettering myself but still invisible to all women. They want nothing to do with me because I don’t have anything they want. The more I read into it it’s all luck hopefully being in the right place which for some reason is I’m never at the right place.
I don’t know what a field report is. Is that something else I need to keep track of?
@Chris Rollo has been writing essays on these issues for years, each essay has its own comment section. 3 or 4 years ago discussions / arguments / rants about actual Red pill techniques for attracting women, managing women, etc. began to clog up the regular essay comments so he created a specific “bin” for men to discuss these things. It is called “field reports”, and here is the current section of comments: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-151/#comments “Field reports” is not just PUA’s chatting about how they got on with girls in some club, it is also married men and men in LTR’s trying… Read more »
Thanks. I’m just a clueless 30yo trying to figure this whole thing out.
Also, Chris, there is currently a problem with the site. When you want to “read more” of a comment you must click multiple times very quicktly – 4 or more in a row – to expand the comment out.
Here is the “field report” section URL again in case you cant see it in my previous comment.
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-151/#comments
Have read most of your old blogs now, but just wasn’t signed in; majority are very much worthy of a ‘like’. Catching up on year five now.
I ain’t a gamer myself, but this was a really interesting take on that scene; the less attractive or just outcast girls (and in some cases guys) being drawn to this scene in part because they suddenly find themselves with a higher SMV then in the clubs.
The gamer guy going: “She likes what I like! Therefore she probably loves idealistically too!” is also understandable, though as you point out, obviously false.