Women’s Existential Fear

One of the primary perspectives of the Red Pill as a praxeology in understanding intersexual dynamics is evolutionary psychology. Even the ‘Classic Era‘ pickup artists referenced evo-psych, often without realizing it, in explaining various aspects of Game. Mystery Method itself was fundamentally rooted in the understanding of women’s (and men’s) evolutionary ‘circuitry’ as a basis for developing modern Game techniques. These were the first forays into women’s evolved mental firmware as a means to understanding the mating game we experience today – and how to use it to our best advantage as men.

However, that was really just the starting point. The Red Pill is much more dynamic than Game applications. As I’ve developed in other essays (and talks), the fundamentals of how the sexes relate with one another follow our biological realities, but also the environmental and social realities of our ancestral past. We’re still using the same circuitry in this era that our ancestors did in the past, only the context has changed. Today I want to explore the influences the legacy of this ancestry places on men and women, and also attempt to answer some questions as to why men and women fear certain aspects of the other’s evolved nature.

In my last article I made a distinction between our ancestral, localized, sexual marketplace versus the globalized SMP we find ourselves in today. This is a good starting point. In our hunter-gatherer beginnings our potential mates either came from within our tribal groups, or, when our tribe managed to overwhelm another tribe, we took war brides to breed with. This is what defined our localized SMP in the past. In fact I’d argue that a deficit in ‘marriageable’ females from within a local tribe was actually a prime motivator for going to war with an outside tribe. This is an important distinction because a lot of those same motivational dynamics are reflected today’s global SMP, and how modern intersexual dynamics have evolved.

A Need for Control

A lot of the need for social control we see coming from women and feminism today is part of an ancestral, evolved desire on the part of women to seek security in a chaotic world. Ever since the advent of unilaterally female-controlled contraception, the Sexual Revolution, and the rise of the Gynocracy, an unprecedented power over the birthing process of the human race has been transferred to only one of the two sexes necessary to perpetuate our species.

“Abortion is Eugenics” (or dysgenics) is a saying I’ve been seeing on Twitter recently. Since the Sexual Revolution we’ve not just ’empowered’ women, but men have systematically ceded any claim to our own paternity while at the same time presumed that women should, by default, be trusted with knowing what’s best for the human birthing process and raising new generations. But it’s not just abortion that is eugenics, it’s also Hypergamy and the dozens of other aspects of intersexual dynamics that western societies just presumes women should know best how to proceed with. We took the women of the Baby Boom generation at their collective word that they’d be more merciful rulers than men if we just gave them the option to be sexual with us. We foolishly believed women would police the worst aspects of their own sexual strategy after we willingly ceded power in exchange for sexual access.

Last month a reader sent me a link to a story about how Ireland had just ceded more of its own authority over their country’s reproductive fate to women by legalizing abortion. The very Catholic island of Celts has made Hypergamy its ruling motive after many years of feminist pressure. Irish women celebrated the decision to allow them to kill their unwanted children. In fact many Catholic countries all over South America are in various stages of legalizing abortion. But the sentiment about abortion in this decade is no longer one of it being a necessary evil as it was in the time of Roe vs. Wade. Today it’s cause for overt celebration among women and men alike.

Before I get run up the flagpole by critics here, my opposition to abortion does not (primarily) stem from moral reasons, it stems from objectively following the power dynamics involved and the latent purpose for abortion. Abortion is eugenics; it is the ceding of any claim to influencing paternity that men may have had for the past 100,000 years of human evolution.

So, why will women fight tooth and nail for the ‘right’ to free and safe abortion over the course of multiple generations? Why is the right to end her (and the father’s) child’s life in utero such an imperative for women?

Ask women and the feminist boilerplate answer is always “My body, my choice!“, but why is it so important to cut men entirely out of the reproductive process? What is the motivation for legally disenfranchising men from even 1% of a say in a child that is at least half his genetic legacy? This is also one of the greatest of offenses to women; that a man might have some control over women’s bodies. “Hands off my uterus!” that too is another rallying cry, but why is it such an abhorrent thought that men might have some influence in who gets born and who doesn’t?

Existential Fears & The Hypergamous Filter

There are certain fears that human beings are born with. Our evolved mental firmware is highly attuned to our own survival. That may seem simple, but we’re born with certain instinctual reservations about our environments. Snakes, spider, animals with sharp pointy natural weapons are critters we don’t have to be taught to stay away from. That fear, that caution, is part of our onboard system when we leave the womb. The same is generally true of heights and tight confined places. We also have a very defined natural instinct for revulsion. There’s actually an entire area of evo-psych study devoted to the human revulsion response. Part of our innate firmware makes us disgusted by feces, dead carcasses and putrefaction. If it’s unsanitary and might make us sick or diseased ourselves we’re repelled by it – unless we’re conditioned not to be.

The above are some pretty basic existential fears most people have. We have evolved inbuilt firmware that does its best to keep us alive, but there are other, more complex fears and accompanying revulsions that look out for our wellbeing too. The one I want to focus on here is what the Red Pill refers to as the Hypergamous Filter. That’s kind of a loose way of saying women have innate revulsions and distrusts of men who would otherwise like nothing better than the experience of having sex with them.

From our ancestral past right up until the Sexual Revolution in the mid-1960s a woman having sex was fraught with dangerous consequences. For about 100,000 years evolution wrote a breeding subroutine into the hindbrains of every human female – always doubt a man’s quality.

The Hypergamous Filter has many ways of determining quality. Last week I mentioned that women universally use a man’s height as a physical qualification for arousal/attraction. That’s one obvious criteria; check the height box, move on. I have mentioned in other essays that Hypergamy is always based on doubt – doubt that a man is the best she can do – but also the doubt as to whether that guy will stick around and stay committed to parental investment.

This Hypergamous doubt is an existential fear for women.

“What if he’s faking it?”
“What if he really isn’t who he claims to be?”
“Will he stick around after sex?”
“What if I get pregnant with his child?”

These questions, these doubts, do not stem from a woman’s Rational Interpretive Process, they are deeply rooted in her Instinctual Process.

These questions are asked beneath a woman’s cognition, and as such they comprise part of an unconscious Hypergamous filtering process that is linked to both the revulsion instinct and genuine sexual desire. This is a risk aversion instinct that has very real, life-threatening, implications to it. This is a self-preservation skepticism on the limbic level and it is the primary existential fear a woman has. And women will do anything to alleviate it. Women will do anything to ensure they have failsafes against the life-threatening consequences of having that Hypergamous filter deceived.

Why is there a ceaseless effort to criminalize PUAs approaching women on the street? Because it implies a deception of a Beta male impersonating an Alpha male for the purposes of sex. This is a crime against the Existential Fear.

The Existential Fear in women is that their innate Hypergamous Filter, their Feminine Intuition, might be fooled, and by being fooled she may either die or have her reproductive potential compromised for her lifetime by bearing and raising the child of man who is a suboptimal Hypergamous choice for her – a man who exerted his will over her Hypergamous choosing filters.

In our ancestral past, pregnancy, and/or parental investment, could be a death sentence if a woman’s Hypergamous Filter wasn’t supremely sensitive and obsessively refined. The Hypergamous Filter also evolved as a contingency against men’s biological imperative – unlimited access to unlimited sexuality.

That’s not to say pair bonding wasn’t a feature of our ancestral past, it was also a foundational aspect of mating, but it is to say that a man’s investment cost was much lower than a woman’s when it came to reproduction. That’s simple biology defining a sexual strategy for men. Pair bonding would usually last as long as it took for that child to reach survival autonomy (4-7 years). And that’s not accounting for men’s proclivity to seek extra-pair mating opportunities while pair bonded. I’ll explore this in the next essay.

Fast Times in the 21st Century

Now lets fast forward the Existential Fear and the Hypergamous Filter up to the last 60 years or so. One of the most socially destabilizing inventions of the 20th century was affording women the option to invest herself, or not, in the choices she made about her own sexuality. Unilaterally female-controlled birth control was effectively the greatest Hypergamous failsafe ever invented. It released women from the responsibility of a bad Hypergamous decision. But what it didn’t do is erase that filtering process from women’s psyches. We take it for granted, but HBC (hormonal birth control) unfettered Hypergamy for the first time in human history. And as a result men ceded more and more of their paternal interests in the human reproductive process over to women in exchange for the promise of pregnancy-free sexual access. Ostensibly, unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. Needless to say this also exacerbated women’s sexual strategy to tactically filter out unwanted males and emphasize sex with chosen males.

But the greatest sexual bargain of the 20th-21st century catastrophically backfired on men because, for all the boons of HBC, it couldn’t rewrite 100,000 years of evolved Hypergamy. And, if anything, it exacerbated women’s desire for failsafe’s against the Existential Fear of having her Hypergamous Filter fooled by deceptive men.

The social and political power men ceded to women in the wake of the Sexual Revolution has been used for one unitary purpose by women – to ensure against the Existential Fear. Why is abortion now something to be celebrated rather than mournfully accepted as necessary evil of this century? Because it alleviates the Existential Fear of bearing and raising the product of a bad Hypergamous choice.

Why did no fault divorce morph into the misandrous divorce industry we have today? It alleviates the Existential Fear. A one-sided divorce industry ensures security, support and resources that would’ve otherwise been her undoing in times before the pill. Why are the stigmas of single motherhood that existed just 60 years ago now replaced with rewarding women for their choice to become single mothers? It alleviates the Existential Fear.

When women were afforded unprecedented power and influence their first order of business was directed at changing laws to alleviate the Existential Fear. Virtually every social change, every political change, every egoistic “you go gurl” self-entitlement since the Sexual Revolution that women have initiated has had one latent purpose – alleviating the Existential Fear.

And finally, why is it that Red Pill awareness, practicing Game, a united Manosphere, and yes, even MGTOW, are perceived as an existential threat to the Feminine Imperative?

Because it all threatens to upset the security that women believe they’re entitled to in creating failsafes for women’s Existential Fear. Exposing the machinations of the Blue Pill and teaching men to unplug from a system that makes them a utility in a female-correct social order is an intolerable threat to women’s security from the Existential Fear, but it is also a new challenge the power base that security is built upon.

This is part one of a blog series.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

295 comments on “Women’s Existential Fear

  1. @Blax

    “Pro tip : avoid myopic concentration in order to gain a more accurate picture of history as a whole.”

    “Pro”?

    What is “Pro”?
    What authority defines “Pro”?

    Myopic?

    “Accurate” how is this achieved without concentration, focus on details, on “dots”.

    At what point on the continuum, or circle, of myopic focus and whole awareness are we “supposed” to set up our observations? Is the whole not a sum of parts? Does focus on one part necessitate or manifest ignorance of the whole? Does the examination of one detail by default exclude admission of the whole?

    Who defines what history is, what “really” occurred or didn’t in the past, and what “it means”? Today’s liars? yesterday’s liars?Tomorrows?

    Let ME tell YOU a little “tip”…

    THEY ARE ALLLLLL GOD…..DAMN…..LIARS!!!!!

    But EVERY lie is spun on threads of truth….

    Just look at your own….

    WHO THE FUUUUUCKK IS THE PROFESSIONAL!?!?!?

  2. @Eh: Thanks for asking (really), but I try to stay as anonymus as possible on sites like this. And anyway, my story is not a success story yet, but it will be hopefully.

    In short I focus on living healthier (yes, I lift!), and picking up new skills (with women, with work, with life…)

    I count those days success which I spend with work, learning, doing sport, healthy socializing, or sex. The days I’ve spent in front of a videogame or the TV are considered a failure. Not all day a success, but I’m getting there.

  3. Wait, I just got to the right chapter. We aren’t dying because we’re jealous cunts. We’re dying because we don’t live by the values that keep a civilization together. We gave up on meaning and purpose.

  4. Sent here from Rollo’s Twitter feed:

    “So, be like . . .”

    . . . Steve, who threw his saddlebags, bedroll, fly rod and squirrel rifle onto the back of his bike, rode off into the mountains and lived happily ever after.

  5. “The slope of the sides is the angle of repose and the bases are all evenly divisible by pi. It isn’t hard though to show how this could happen with no deep knowledge of either. I could set a two year old to measuring precise x*pi distances, with x limited only by how high the two year old could count integers.”

    But could a 2-year-old create an 8-sided pyramid that looks like 4- sides unless your airborne and is only visible to the eye at dawn and dusk on the spring and autumn equinoxes? Not to mention the precision cutting of stone and astronomical alignment. Me thinks a 2-year-old would be better at suckling its mother teet and enjoying running without falling down.

    Well we all have things we’re more interested in and impressed by. I find it amazing that the Giza pyramids stood the test of time and are still standing. Very few man made structures like that exist. Certainly none of the modern shit will like those. Then look at dozens of other ancient structures that have such precision in the stone cutting that razor blades can’t penetrate the seams, and withstand centuries of earthquakes.

  6. @SJF I see from your posts above that you are an insulin-dependent diabetic. This brings to mind an important consideration that I haven’t seen addressed in the manosphere – specifically how the presence of a chronic health condition in a man can effect a woman’s hypergamous screening of them, as well as her ontological insecurities and existential fears as Rollo has described. Having type 1 juvenile diabetes myself, I have experienced the interplay between overt management of one’s health condition and a woman’s hypergamous doubt automatically kicking into overdrive.

    When one need’s to actively manage a health condition during an emergency, as in severe acute low blood glucose for diabetics, the initial response on the part of girlfriends tends to be assist & comfort, but over time this dynamic seems to change irrespective of how well one maintains frame.

    Anecdote: Was going out for lunch with a recent ex and forgot my insulin at her apartment. We were just exiting her building when I realized I needed to go back in to get it. I tell her this, and her gut response was to grimace and ask me how it was possible that I could be so absent-minded as to forget my insulin like that. She repeated this sentiment several times while brazenly rationalizing about how I wasn’t respecting her time, before asking me to hurry up so we could get going with our lunch plans. I respectfully pointed out to her that she was being an incredible bitch, and forthwith went back inside to retrieve my life-saving medication. It’s noteworthy to mention that she is on track to become a medical doctor…

    Anyways, I get the insulin, come back, and at first she actually looks devastated with herself about how she treated me. She was apologizing, asking to carry my bag (as a penance I suppose?), and even insisted upon paying for the meal. Felt like a win at first… until later that evening when I had an episode of low-blood sugar.

    Was still at her place so I go to her fridge in search of something sugary to remedy my situation. Her fridge was barren, so I investigate her freezer and find a box full of fudgsicles. Not my ideal choice, but it’s all there was. As I open the package, she starts aggressively complaining about how I am terrible at managing my blood sugars, how if she had diabetes she would never allow these things to happen, and that she shouldn’t have to sacrifice her favorite comfort food just because I can’t be effective at managing my own health. Needless to say I was shocked at her callous display. I didn’t even bother to tell her what I thought about it, I just grabbed a few more fudgesicles, picked up my stuff and started heading for the door.

    She chased me to the door, began yelling at me for being insensitive to her needs while claiming she’s only protesting out of concern for my health and well-being, and then starts calling me emotionally abusive for leaving her. I laugh audibly at the sheer insanity of this statement. THEN she attempts to ream me out for “minimizing her feelings by laughing”. Amazing. All of this over some frozen fudge.

    Most people don’t realize that I have diabetes because I don’t need much insulin throughout the day and am otherwise extremely fit and healthy, but women inevitably discover this when it’s time to inject. Has anyone else had experiences like this? How does one approach the fine art of managing a chronic health condition while preventing the very possession and recognition of said condition from tripping a woman’s hypergamous filters and initiating an unholy shit-test array?

  7. “I find it amazing that the Giza pyramids stood the test of time and are still standing.”

    They are certainly evidence that the Egyptians nearly 5000 years ago were very skilled at cutting, transporting and stacking up stones, as well as at observing the skies.

    We are closer in time to Cleopatra than she was to the building of the pyramids, by hundreds of years. As the old saying goes, “Man fears time. Time fears the pyramids.”

  8. Elysium

    Very nice to hear from you. You raise good points and it is tied into the original post here on hypergamous doubt and women’s existential fear.

    “How does one approach the fine art of managing a chronic health condition while preventing the very possession and recognition of said condition from tripping a woman’s hypergamous filters and initiating an unholy shit-test array?”

    Just take it out of the equation. Be Like a Boss. (Not boss her, just be expert and masterful and handle your shit.)

    As a Type I, the trick is to not have yourself live in instinctual fear. The condition is very fearful when you fuck up. There’s about only five or six times I fucked up in 27 years with extremely low blood sugar. I hear you loud and clear about the girlfriend being disgusted about the fuckups. I’m not going to lie, it’s been extra-ordinarily difficult at times. Insulin and low blood sugar are some of the most powerful hormones and influencers of emotion.

    The thing is, it is just another burden of performance and is a litmus test of the relationship.

    I made damn sure that it was never much of an issue (besides the fuck-ups) in her thinking I was defective by sheer burden of performance.

    My particulars were that I was in the last trimester of my Internal Medicine residency, and I started getting symptoms. And I was worn down. It took me 2.5 months after that to blossom into full blown symptoms and get diagnosed. I was thirsty, urinating and lost 15 lbs. on a 170 lb. frame, while being in denial of my symptoms as I started practice in Internal Medicine at an outpatient University Center. My wife was pregnant with our first child, I was in a new job and got accepted to another elite residency. I didn’t have time to get a illness.

    One of my buddy internists at lunch, said I didn’t look good, what’s up? I told him, and we checked my blood sugar. It was 350. I went home to my wife, told her and then spent 6 hours processing the stages of Grief that day. (I remember the Hypergamous look of doubt on her face: like I let her down. She was a nurse. She knew the implications. Full Stop. Go figure.) The next day I went to an Endocrinologist and was fully in a state of Acceptance, and moved on. I was 31 years old. That was 28 years ago.

    After that I, with the limited insulin palette back then, took care of myself like a boss. For the most part keeping my Glycohemoglobin at around 6.5 for decades. The last couple years it’s been averaging 6.2. (I asked my HB9 endocrinologist if she had other patients like this. She said: “Yes, it tends to be a small subset of highly motivated men.” I only go to her to get my CGM justified via insurance)

    I had a good thing going with my life and family, wife and kids and I was bound and determined to not fuck up, just like my professional career.

    It’s not up to the woman to not have existential or hypergamous fear. I knew that back then in an existential way, and I acted on it. In medicine, I operated in a Don’t Fuck Up way in my professional life, and it spilled into other facets of my life. Without fear of proceeding forward out to my edge of adventure and performance.

    You see how that works. No sympathy for you. The trick is not to make it an issue for her. Do the best you can do. Fuck-ups happen, but they are small hurdles, small speed bumps. She doesn’t want or need the burden of your defects. So don’t show them and don’t apologize for them. She’s willing to come along on your journey.

    So, I’m always mindful. I always try to have actual glucose/dextrose tablets available. I only got a continuous glucose monitor a year ago. I use syringes instead of a pump. My wife gets pissed and inconvenienced when the low glucose alarm goes off at night. Which is frequent because I weightlift hard and am on a very low carbohydrate diet. This increases the insulin sensitivity. I also vividly dream on purpose and sleep well, (the brain consumes 25 percent of the glucose when it is active and your physical activity is in stasis. One of my non-diabetic buddies did PhD. research for Dexcom and would find his blood sugar dipping during a speech, using more of his brain.) But now I’m rambling.

    So my take is: Yes, it is part of women’s firmware to emotionally be inconvenienced by it. That is there normal operating firmware at work. Take it out of the equation. Do the best you can. You don’t have to be perfect, but you strive to. When your partner/ girlfriend is watched for what she does, it gives you feedback on your burden of performance to be a better red pill masculine performer. Her hypergamous doubt is transparent. That is what you are going through. And its the same for LTR/MRP and short term relationship game.

    Thanks for asking, man. I always tried to take the chronic illness out of the equation. My performance has been great over the years. I benefited by not getting type I till I was 31. My instincts at the time were to Accept the defect (because I was a physician at the time, and I couldn’t get angry, deny, bargain or get depressed about bad shit happening to patients. After 28 years I have no end organ eye or kidney defects.

    Onward with Red Pill.

  9. Given women’s solipsism, selfishness, powers of ratinonalization, etc. any society that gets a real resource glut going will either hand it all to women with the results we see, or will put hard limits on “stuff” that any given family can control, thereby keeping women as a group more in line.

    That science fiction scenario would not be any kind of democracy for a start, not in the modern sense. Maybe sorta kinda in an ancient Greek sense. Or maybe Heinlein had an idea in Beyond This Horizon (“An armed society is a polite society”) that he didn’t fully flesh out.

    What a society would / could / should do with the really big pile of excess resources is an open question. Terraforming Mars might be a good start…

  10. Is the whole not a sum of parts?

    Well. No. When you have enough parts you get “emergent behavior” not predicted by summing parts. At least not in advance. And then you have the problem of multi dimensional sums. We only know how to sum in a few dimensions.

    And then their is our friend Heisenberg. And the corresponding cat problem.

  11. SJF

    Thanks for sharing your experience & insight. What you say about instinctual fear and the amplified emotions that exist in a state of metabolic dysregulation are spot on. I’ve spent a lot of time considering the relationship between emotion and metabolism & how best to gain mastery over it in the face of unpredictable glucose swings. Hypos in particular seem to stir up a powerful and instinctual apprehension and urgency. Very discomfiting and makes the maintenance of frame and perceptions of mastery a more complicated process.

    What are your thoughts about the cost-benefit analysis of maintaining relatively low glycohemoglobin concentrations with the greater likelihood of experiencing severe hypoglycemic symptoms? You refer to the high frequency of your own nighttime lows. I read some research a while ago detailing endos rationale for recent elevations to their recommended HA1c numbers for very physically active T1Ds. Since the inevitable glucose swings put them at a greater risk for severe hypo, particularly at night after a vigorous weightlifting session, they’re saying a low 7 may be preferable to the previously recommended low-to-mid 6 range. As a fitness professional I am intimately familiar with the phenomenon of changes in sensitivity making evening insulin administration an exercise in impossible calculus.

    You mention that your wife becomes angry & inconvenienced by nighttime hypos. I feel you. Of the various circumstances a diabetic may find themselves in, that is one where fundamental humanity dictates compassion, especially from one’s SO. The solipsism is real. I applaud your positivity & resolve.

  12. “What are your thoughts about the cost-benefit analysis of maintaining relatively low glycohemoglobin concentrations with the greater likelihood of experiencing severe hypoglycemic symptoms?”

    Speak of the devil. (It’s 3:30 AM.) The verbal loud alarm just went off and I’m @ 44 mg/dl after super hard weightlifting this last afternoon. The best benefit is best to go flat-line or sideways with the blood sugar at an average of 135 or in range of 80- 180 rather than a roller coaster with super lows.

    This dictates not being a martyr to trying to stay super low. I’ve been there, done that. Better to be going sideways than up and down. Flat-line with acceptable higher mean. I was obsessed last year this time when I got my CGM (continuous glucose monitor) and was running a glycohemoglobin of 6.0. That’s not practical and I backed off.

    “You mention that your wife becomes angry & inconvenienced by nighttime hypos. I feel you. Of the various circumstances a diabetic may find themselves in, that is one where fundamental humanity dictates compassion, especially from one’s SO. The solipsism is real.”

    The reality of red pill doesn’t work that way. Women/The Feminine are not a capable as you would like. Avoid the grief. All women are like that. I come from MRP perspective. Be attractive, don’t be unattractive is our motto. Fundamental humanity dictating compassion from one’s SO has nothing to do with the equation. It doesn’t compute.

    Once again, it is a litmus test for your relationship. Just now my alarm went off loud. (Then Dexcom can’t be over-ridden. It will always beep loud under 55 ng/ml. No sleep because of the clinical retards that dictated the regulators make it that way–no override to merely give mild vibrate instead of loud alarm beep. Life isn’t fair. Boo-hoo.) Not a peep out of my wife. She got up and used the bathroom, but didn’t say a damn word. Actual Dextrose/glucose tabs at my bedside. Things are good, red pill wise with me and reflected on our relationship.

    It’s a microcosm of red pill realities. It is just Richard Cooper’s “pursue excellence” and Rian Stone’s “don’t eat paint”. Rollo’s “don’t wish it were easier, be better”.

    You and I are medically defective. We are not martyrs for a cause. To think otherwise is to harbor self sadism in thoughts and emotion. That’s not OK. It’s not masculine and you don’t get extra credit from the feminine. How things are, not how they ought to be.

    I wish you your best.

  13. “I’ve spent a lot of time considering the relationship between emotion and metabolism & how best to gain mastery over it in the face of unpredictable glucose swings. Hypos in particular seem to stir up a powerful and instinctual apprehension and urgency. Very discomfiting and makes the maintenance of frame and perceptions of mastery a more complicated process.”

    Oh, my gods. You are taking me back 25 years ago to the genesis of my problem going on vacations with my wife, that I recently spoke of being inexpert at. Not a leader at all. Back in the day, we only had “Regular” and NPH insulin, rather than Humalog and Lantus. That was fucking hell on vacation, and I was a whiny little bitch with my wife leading me around like I had a nose ring and leash. (not really, I put up a good front, but that is how I felt) Bloody beta hell. Hypergamous existential fear was palpable. Glad I’m better.

    It’s not a considered emotional relationship, it is in your face real as a mother-fucker. It is your burden of performance. The emotions are vastly more complicated. It is hard. Spending a lot of thinking-time with IT is spinning your wheels in grief stages (denial, anger, bargaining and depression<short of Acceptance) Bear it with Grace. Differentiate your self and self-appreciate your successes and your best maintenance of Frame. Don't wait for other-appreciation. That's a losing proposition. “It’s 90% mental and the other half is physical.” –Yogi Berra quote.

    Women talk, Men Do.

  14. “Existential fear” is meta distillation at its finest.
    Easily shot to my top 5 of TRM.

    Standing ovation. With so many fine articles, this might just be your
    Pietà.

  15. In other news…

    Robert Francis “Beta” O’Rourke steps to the batter’s box…

    Will cat ladies swoon over the good looking boy they never had or stay on the GoGrrrrl train?

  16. SJF, Fantastic post👏
    And yes, occasional feedback from Unkle Rollo would be great. “Steer the ship aright”. Agreed.

    As RP becomes more popular, there will be more crab buckets in the comments section, Vichy males, women and the like.
    I despise male infighting. When it happens in RP comment sections, I always get a mental picture of a male feminist reeing.
    As men, we need to pick each other up, not tear down. Solidarity is our strength.
    RMG sets a gold standard for guys who can agree to disagree and rib each other without being contentious.

  17. Of the various circumstances a diabetic may find themselves in, that is one where fundamental humanity dictates compassion, especially from one’s SO.

    SJF has you well covered here, but just to re-emphasize — compassion is not what to expect here. Especially from one’s female SO.

    Your weakness is a threat to her — a real, visceral, wrenching, involuntary threat to her. She may not even like that she feels threatened by it, and she may be irritated at herself that she does, but she still does. The key to her not feeling threatened by your weakness is you not showing her weakness, but mastery. It is fine to have challenges, as long as you can easily, quickly, and effortlessly demonstrate strong, preferably absolute, mastery of them to her. In that way, she is not threatened by a perception of weakness on your part, and is instead comforted by an impression of competence and mastery on your part. You will slip at times, everyone does — and when you do, the key is to re-establish mastery firmly, quickly, convincingly, openly and as close to absolutely as possible, so as to allay the involuntary threat she will feel arising from the weakness you display when you slip and she sees it.

    Compassion doesn’t enter into the mix when it comes to a woman and her man. Women are quite capable of compassion — that isn’t the issue. But with the man in their lives they are dominated by the question of the threat posed by any weakness in that man — that utterly dominates any feeling of compassion they may very well have for what is happening with him, and is determinitive of how they feel overall, and of how they choose to act. So don’t spend a lot of time or energy expecting, or worrying about getting, compassion — that isn’t likely, and it isn’t a reasonable ask on your part of the woman in your life. Instead shoulder your own burdens with absolute mastery, and she will not feel threatened because you are doing what you are supposed to be doing, as a man.

  18. Lol. I’ve never watched even 1 episode of Full House, so I only know who Lori Laughlin is in a cursory way.

    The article is funny because the description of ” moms ” doing all manner of Herculean tasks while holding down a job is anachronistic for today.

    It’s a rare woman that is capable of multitasking in the manner laid out by the author. The idea is that all women should be automatically and unquestionably given credit for the actions of the few and far between.

    No mention of the father as master provider while all of the ” dance class, soccer practice ” is going on. Dad’s busy earning the lion’s share of income.

    As far as the cheating thing goes, meh. I’m always happily amused when Bullshit is finally exposed and wool gets lifted from eyes. This isn’t a full on meritocracy so no surprises there.

    What’s even more telling are video postings by the kids that got into ” elite “( 😂) schools by subterfuge, saying how much of a fuck they don’t give about college. No boys evidently, all girls.

    It’s harder being a princess than it is being a pimp evidently.

  19. “Red Mand Group sets a gold standard for guys who can agree to disagree and rib each other without being contentious.”

    Yes, a collaborative alliance in Red Pill, rather than a collusive alliance.

    Well said Novaseeker. Thanks. I can’t articulate that well. But that is the feeling I always had operating in the last 28 years in regards to what I show my wife. Exactly.

  20. bjtucker

    I despise male infighting. When it happens in RP comment sections, I always get a mental picture of a male feminist reeing.
    As men, we need to pick each other up, not tear down. Solidarity is our strength.

    Well you can’t change biology. There is ‘infighting” in your words, or competition in other words UNTIL a hierarchy is established. and then in due course THAT hierarchy is challenged.

    Don’t be so soft…

  21. Eugenics – the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.

    Dysgenic – exerting a detrimental effect on later generations through the inheritance of undesirable characteristics.

    Abortion could be one or the other, depending on who is getting aborted. Would be great to see data on the relative genetic fitness of the fathers and whether lower fitness men have their fetuses aborted more. Given Briffaults Law (with all its hair) I’d suspect this is just another way of focusing reproduction on more fit males. But then again, maybe what abortion does is lower the consequence of making a mistake, so women are more willing to risk pregnancy with the beta. It could even mean women take many more chances to be with high fitness men and generally pass on more fit genetics.

    Pick a lane…

    Margaret Sanger is doing a victory lap in Hell. 42 million blacks in the U.S. today. 20,350,000 black babies killed in the womb since Roe. Hell, if that’s not a win for Sanger, what is? Anyone who claims to care about “racism” from whites should be far more concerned about this than the handful of wrongful police shootings of blacks per year.

    Also, if you are concerned about abortion and the law, the operative case is Casey, not Roe v Wade. In fact, the trend is the friend at the federal level and in many states, hence why the Prog-Marxist pukes are in a rush in every state they control to get the most radical abortion laws one could imagine on the books. Then they can use the coming court battled to rabble-rouse.

    Women are not as able to govern themselves by reason as men are, this is an evolutionary artifact. Men engaged in far more complex, high risk tasks in which being bound by reality gave one great advantage. The stakes are just a lot lower when you are rooting around for tubers and picking berries, versus hunting dangerous animals and fighting other tribes and men for dominance, booty and women.

    So women won’t think deeper than their lizard brains about this shit and will simply press their prerogatives. This is why societies which suppress female agency do very well, while those where women run amok fall to shit.

    I’m not so sure hypergamy is fear-based, as Rollo describes. The hypergamy I observe up close and personal seems more about short term fun and an inability to delay gratification. They don’t even understand what greater cause they might serve anymore cuz we’ve destroyed all traditional values that might have put restraints upon them and also asked more restraint from them personally. It looks like a giddy, high fitness orgy to me. Not like a desperate scared girl trying to optimize. I think women who run amok reproductively have simply grooved in the habit of immediate sexual gratification and society cheers them on, while lessening consequences on every level.

    Underneath all that might be the fear Rollo talks about, perhaps it’s so. But I’d like to hear more on why it’s a negative motivation versus a positive motivation. The women I fuck seem to really enjoy getting high value sperm…

    After the collapse, women will trade agency for security, as they have done historically, no problem. Right now, they have the ultimate backstop, even beyond abortion: Welfare. The penalty for their misjudgments is personally quite low, and they can literally buffer the consequences of motherhood in addition to abortion. Any wonder why certain kinds of young hotties are running amok, jamming as many high fitness cocks into their pussies as possible? Easy: Cuz it feels good, not that they are filled with fear.

    But along the way they are destroying Western European societies with their focus on work and careers, concomitant low reproduction levels and miscegenation. Not to mention all the self-destructive govt policies they support with their emotional approach to politics.

  22. @Elysium

    Keep in mind that girls pursuing medicine rather than nursing are a tough nut to crack. Ask me how I know women physicians (professionally).

    I’m not making a judgement about your girl. Except that she might be in character.

    There was a content provider on ROKs a while ago. My buddy and I get to chuckling about his game and writing skills. A commercial airline pilot by trade. Natural alpha by birth. Reveler by manosphere.

    I’m not a big fan of women doctors, especially on the light side of medicine. ‘Cause solipsism. In my experience they are more interested in themselves than their patients or boyfriends.
    I’m not trying to pile on your plight. Just relating my reference experiences. This is not a caution or and indictment. Your mileage is yours.

    Anyway, take a look:
    Specifically:
    https://www.returnofkings.com/42388/what-its-like-to-date-a-strong-and-independent-woman

    Generally:

    https://www.returnofkings.com/author/av8r

  23. @ Novaseeker & SJF

    Your comments certainly reflect my experience with this. My approach to it is a little more aggressive in the sense that I don’t accept BS from women who don’t display compassion when low blood sugar becomes an issue. When this sort of thing arises I always pull back and they generally chase & this repeats until it gets old. As a single guy this isn’t a big deal as long as I’m not overly bonded to the woman in question. I can understand it being much more high-stakes with MRP game. With some women it appears that irrespective of the amount of frame-control and general RP dominance you display, once they become cognizant of the chronic condition they become innately triggered and shit-tests amplified. Push-and-pull is effective mitigation but at a point the cost-benefit isn’t really there.

    “You and I are medically defective. We are not martyrs for a cause. To think otherwise is to harbor self sadism in thoughts and emotion. That’s not OK. It’s not masculine and you don’t get extra credit from the feminine. How things are, not how they ought to be.”

    I’ll presume the reason you say diabetes is a medical defect is because that is likely the hindbrain perception of most modern women (perhaps most of society as well), which would explain the instinctive shittesting that occurs. I strongly disagree with the meat of that statement though. T1diabetes isn’t a defect but an anachronistic adaptation to extremely cold-weather climates and paleolithic dietary norms, which for the modern ethos of sedentarism in the land of milk and honey causes issues. With the advent of insulin diabetes has become more akin to driving Stick vs. Automatic. Certainly not like driving a defective car. In fact being diabetic is in many ways advantageous since it forces one to become intimately attuned to their metabolic realities, as per diabetic burden of performance. This doesn’t make us martyrs, maybe more like mutants.

    When you take a sober look at modern diabetics who haven’t let the burdens of the condition bum them out, they are more fit and healthy than most of their normoglycemic peers. I believe this is largely psychosocial and an example of nature lighting a fire under people’s asses. LBS is the most immediate threat and that tends to happen with over-aggressive management.

    I’ll also point out that the reason the clinical retards made the technology in that way is because some diabetics (particularly those with peripheral nerve damage) can’t feel such vibrations. More specifically the reason a loud alarm is used is because sometimes a sleeping diabetic won’t even respond to the noise alarm, in which case someone nearby better be able to hear it, and would hopefully want to hear it so they can save your life. I myself would be inclined to turn it up a couple decibels… but I’m an asshole like that.

    @ NS & SJF Your comments and insights are appreciated. SJF would like to hear more on your experience with CGM and how you approach your low-carbohydrate diet/weightlifting regime. I go the chicken, brown rice, broccoli route myself but I find large amounts of cooked chicken actually causes BS spikes.

  24. @SJF

    The female nursing/MD differential is one I have also seen in action and agree with you absolutely. Nurses have their own dynamics but LBS is never an issue. Yes the doctors, particularly would-be’s, are in it to win it and have no time for our pathetic LBS… which means we have no time for their BS. Again really tough from a MRP perspective, would like to hear some more anecdotes on your experiences. Great to hear from you

  25. I’m not so sure hypergamy is fear-based, as Rollo describes. The hypergamy I observe up close and personal seems more about short term fun and an inability to delay gratification. They don’t even understand what greater cause they might serve anymore cuz we’ve destroyed all traditional values that might have put restraints upon them and also asked more restraint from them personally.

    Particularly for those pre-wall. Not only more personal restraint, also more appreciation for the philosophical nuances of evolutionary theory. When women choose to abort because of existential fear relating to the fitness of their mate’s genes, they are doing their own pre-natal screening based on perceived fitness cues. What are these fitness cues based on though? I’m sure a lot of it is biologically hard-wired firmware, but observing the process changes the process and when society – especially gynocentric iterations – start subconsciously playing with Darwinian theory to make their own conclusions about which genes and traits are best selected for, you get a more monotonous global gene pool. Without appreciation for natural diversity and the value & celebration of traits that aren’t always the best for a given environment, society becomes open to the dysgenic effects of superfluous abortion practices.

    This was illustrated to an extent in Rollo’s last post about the global sexual marketplace. I think it is important to recognize that the fitness of genes is relative to the state of the environment that exists. In particular environments, sickle-cell anemia saved lives and allowed people affected by malaria to live to reproductive age. If the women in those places had prejudicially aborted all the sickle-cell fetuses before malaria became an issue, there may have been no one left to run the abortion clinics.

  26. “The women I fuck seem to really enjoy getting high value sperm…”

    Scrib’s crusty bedside gym sock or atop the arse of his most recent HB9+++ bang, either way, they ain’t “getting” no high quality sperm.

    Scrib mostly enjoys homosexual sex with himself.

    Fruitcake with nuts.

  27. “T1diabetes isn’t a defect but an anachronistic adaptation to extremely cold-weather climates and paleolithic dietary norms, which for the modern ethos of sedentarism in the land of milk and honey causes issues. ”

    Word! Since my prehensile tail fell off I’ve had to climb trees with a ladder. It doesn’t get caught in the door behind be neither anymore too.

    Darwin rocks!

  28. Can some of y’all genetics experts define this ” fitness ” that keeps getting referred to?

    Have you been out and seen actual people mulling around these days?

    So please, expand on this vague descriptor. Let’s put much of this pseudo intellectual buffering to bed. Time for a nap.

    Women are not complicated, nor are they all scientists studying DNA and gene expression. Stop with this silly shit already.😂

    It’s very basic. It’s very simple. Put the sliderules and beakers away, and get out of the 1800’s. Maybe a good bloodletting will help?

    ” fitness ” is individual at it’s co re and subjective. Women like what they like. Media assists in the formation of preference for both sexes. People in general are prone to sticking with their upbringing, religiosity, culture and enforced boundaries. If you tend to believe women’s self reporting in total you qualify as an unfit individual😁.

    Women establish rules and requirements and guidelines, then proceed to tear them all down in a heartbeat under the right circumstances.

    Short guys reproduce successfully without having their children aborted or suffering devastating divorce. Ugly motherfuckers also. Fat folk, dumb folk. Most women don’t care about and never appreciate things they cannot see in front of their faces. Hear with their ears. As J would say, you only have to meet her particular threshold. There is no master cheat sheet outside of masculinity.

    Anecdotally, I believe more of what I can see or experience first hand. Not a huge theory guy ( although theory has it’s place). I’ve learned to not trust what random chicks spit out of their mouths. And I’m beginning to understand that I can’t trust what most random dudes happen to say they believe either. I can think of a dozen or more females that self reported to me that – 1) they don’t suck dick. 2) they’d never swallow. 3) don’t have unprotected sex. 4 ) don’t find black guys attractive😂5) no anal ever 6) don’t care for skinny dudes 7) require a man to have ” money “. 8) only want bad boys. 9) only find ‘ X’ color eyes sexy. 10) don’t like facial hair. 11) don’t like body hair 12) have hardline height requirements 13) have intellectual ability requirements….. You learn that most of this isn’t real. You won’t learn it from a book or coming to an uniformed, untested conclusion.

    I’m mostly on board with Rollo’s take on existential fear. That ” fear ” isn’t as specific across vast swaths of any population, making narrowing it down to a fine point unreliable and unwise.

    Today women, and people in general, do Shit because it’s socially acceptable. Full stop. Abortion? No worries, here’s the narrative. Lol, if we had to follow the eugenics model today 60 % or the population would have to go😁 . And it wouldn’t be driven by genes, but by culture.I

    So no, I will never accept the idea of some kind of elite people or.class. Especially if it’s main driver is anything that isn’t tangibly real and evident. What one believes is important. Mark zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos will never strike me as genetic superior examples of anything. Accumulation of fiat currencies isn’t real. Women fucking guys because money, ” status “, isn’t a reliable indicator of anything useful for men. Wrong frame, but our culture has placed men in the wrong frame.

    And that wrong frame will fuck you up more over the long haul than practically anything else.

    No one will crave your sperm.😅😆

  29. “Have you been out and seen actual people mulling around these days?”

    Word! Have you been to your local labor and delivery ward lately? Hooboy! You ain’t gotta be sexy to fuck.

  30. Eh

    Maaannn, I have yet to see an example of a tall, handsome eugenics promoter.😁 that’s highly suspect right there.

    Men/people are.fucking, and some have children. Pushing the notion that all men shouldn’t ever settle for a non supermodel is very bad advice. Sometimes a woman just will not fuck you. I’ve had a few barely sexy 5’s outright reject any advance multiple times. It happens because sometimes sexual chemistry just isn’t there. It’s not genetic. Funny, but not genetic.

    There is no ” beautiful people ” thing in reality, and guys should be wary of following others ideas and dictates about such things less they find themselves sterilized because they have acne, high blood pressure and are only 5’8″ tall.

    unfortunately I will probably be in a maternity ward in a couple of months as one of my goddaughter is slated to give birth around that time. Yup, never seen an empty maternity ward, and never seen one that was only populated with hb8-9 genetic experts.

  31. Re: Eh and Blax doing their best to put me in my place, lol.

    @Blax – Genetic fitness is the reproductive success of a genotype, usually measured as the number of offspring produced by an individual that survive to reproductive age relative to the average for the population. Women seek to optimize their choices via signals they perceive which indicate higher genetic fitness. Aspects of physical appearance are part of it. SJF does a nice job here of actually explicating how his fundamental unfitness as a type 1 diabetic is a huge signal to women and a “turnoff”. But hey, keep rejecting things you don’t understand and instead spray some more bullshit. Hint – genetic fitness is a foundation of Red Pill understanding. Your idiotic statement about how women aren’t doing genetics might be one of the most ignorant things you’ve ever said here.

    @Eh – I apparently live rent-free in your head. Get this – I’ve never thought about you. Ever. I barely read your commentary most of the time. But you have to believe that I’m not being honest about my sexual experiences for some reason. In Rollo’s world, we call this a “buffer”, which means a way of processing information you can’t handle that allows you to maintain your ego investment in your POV and reject what’s being offered.

    I’ve not lied once here about my sexual exploits. But since it frosts your ass, I’ll provide an update. I’ve actually been a bit more selective and calm sexually for the past couple of months. I actually pushed away the HB8 21yo college student (4.0 avg, not some weak, dependent girl) as it was getting emotionally complicated. This cooling off period had her reach out last week and beg me to come fuck her – while insisting that I don’t become romantic at all. She just wants me to fuck her good, the way she knows I can.

    My HB9 is becoming more of a friend. Which is nice, as I care about her. But I’ve kind of stopped focusing one women for the moment and instead am busy with the following:

    I’m now the rhythm guitar player in a gigging classic rock band with a bunch of former pros. Incredibly fun, but it’s making me up my game as I have to play a bunch of covers very well that I haven’t played before. It’s not really “hard” as they are within my range, but it’s just a lot of work. From AC/DC to Blue Oyster Cult to Neil Young to Led Zeppelin, it’s a blast. First gig in 3 weeks, I’ve got some ground to cover. Fyi, this is also part of my strategy for “demonstrating high value” socially, and is a great way to meet women. I also want to change and expand my social circles in a new direction.
    I’m part of an active militia that patrols high risk areas, legally, in my community. We also train for the eventual war that is coming. And to stand up against a tyrannical govt should these insane socialists actually gain more power.
    I’m training regularly to become very skilled with both my Glock 19 and my AR-15 (a second generation space gun that is incredible, not some cheap Bushmaster piece of crap). This Saturday I’ve got just some fun time with the leader of my gun club (amazing place with ranges up to 600 yards and filled with patriots), a retired Green Beret, who’s doing some carbine training with me. I’m also taking intensive weekend long courses where I can to become much better in actual defensive shooting practices.
    I’m starting a new political Youtube channel and presence.
    I’m likely going to leave my current job and go back to my consulting biz as I can make more money and have more freedom.

    Becoming my own mental point of origin has had me redefine myself, and I find that my old social habits and associations are a mismatch for who I am now. So, I’m realigning my life and social circles, habits and associations to be in line with my values. Example: I see revolution and civil war coming, so I’m legally organizing and acting to be prepared for that day.

    Last. Let me anticipate the ankle-biting that will come here. I’m not LARPing and pretending I’m some gunfighter or wannabe specforces guy. In fact, deepening my engagement in this facet of the gun community is greatly humbling. When I’m at the range, I’m not atop the social dominance hierarchies there, it’s a new “ladder” for me to climb. And what I’ve learned has made me very humble about using my weapon in an actual conflict. What I realized is that if I’m going to carry a pistol, and have the AR too, I’d better be able to actually use them in a defensive shooting situation.

    I’ll go farther with this, since it may be of interest to other men here. My first couple of years shooting sucked. I was drawn into these NRA dominated, safety fetishist training environments that made me afraid of my gun. Which is weird, cuz when you carry every day, you really can’t be scared like that. It was only when I stopped wasting my time with their mostly useless training and just put a lot of rounds downrange that I started to realize that shooting at the expensive range was a waste of time. I wasn’t allowed to rapid fire, I wasn’t allowed to even draw and shoot. And hitting bullseyes was not teaching me to actually defend myself or anyone else.

    Turns out there is a huge divide in the shooting community these days, and the old dog NRA instruction industry types are outraged. You see, the new crop of trainers and training being done is driven by the shooting tactics military folks learned and developed fighting in the Afghanistan and Iraq era. These guys build dynamic shooting skills, and I quickly realized that just shooting at paper and trying to hit bullseye was mental masturbation. More important is how quickly I can put 2 or more rounds into the “thoracic V” of an enemy.

    Most of these guys ignore the NRA. And it bugs the crap out of the NRA barrel-suckers. The guys I listen to are about training me to win a gunfight if it ever should happen. Taking this approach has cut me down to size and made me quite humble about my abilities. But then again, the new form of training I’ve been doing for the past 7 months actually addresses real skills that I need. I’m also entering so-called “2 gun” competitions for fun and as almost just a social activity. Turns not the non-NRA barrel sucker gun community is awesome and filled with real men who are a lot like me.

    This is where my focus is. My real life. The real world. The causes and interests that I have. My business, my money. Not some stupid Red Pill commenting section.

    @All – Look at the mess this comment section is. SJF started out hectoring for it to not be a crab bucket, and then he and the same 5 guys made dozens of comments, on and on and on. I came in and hectored nobody today. I merely offered my own insights and critique of Rollo’s essay – an amazing essay, fyi. I’ll reply a couple more times, but I have a busy weekend coming up. I’ll check back in a week or two, and offer some more. Meanwhile, how many comments will @Blax leave? The others here? Why do these men have so much time to LARP online? What are they sharing that will help you? Are they role models for other Red Pill men?

    Only you guys can answer these questions for yourselves. I’m out now, have a great day guys. And the rest of you ankle-biting cocksuckers? Go fuck yourselves.

  32. How’d you get fired again ?

    Jesus Christ, what’s this, the 10th time? 12th?

    Where does one go after ” gaggle “???

  33. For posterity again, cats are not dogs. She’s not doing things they way you think she’s doing them. That’s a miscalculation of dog-think. How do you bang endless lines in hb8-9’s and haven’t figured any of this out?

  34. Re: ” put you in your place “, 😂 stop flattering yourself Glenn. You are extremely adept at putting yourself in your place.

    Re: time spent commenting. I do.what I want. I can comment sitting at my desk while doing multiple other things. I happen to get paid to be online much of the day. I like trm. No brainer. At my age ( and you’re ) I’m not a cog in a machine. Too old for that. A perk of being good at what I do, and not having a dozen jobs on my resume and having to constantly reinvent myself and start over in life.la

    Plus my monitor set up is sweeeettt.

    Re: bushmaster. Lol. Glad you’ve discovered firearms at advanced age and are getting humbled. Bushmasters blow motherfuckers away too. Being a snob about shit you do is immature.

    You should’ve mastered something before now. But maybe it’s great to still be amazed by so much, and to still be discovering stuff that’s pretty commonplace.

    But it lacks wisdom.

    Aight. My bullshit sprayer is empty. Let me go do some work ( as in job, employment).

  35. “doing their best to put me in my place….”

    ScribblerG grinds himself to paste. He tortures definitions to fit shoddy upstream philosophy. “I’m killing it” in hundreds and hundreds of words said only by those looking for external validation.

    I can bear skimming his comments for the sake of his impending impact.

    Go fuck yourselves? Said only by frustrated masochists.

  36. “unfortunately I will probably be in a maternity ward in a couple of months ”

    @ Blax

    Why is that unfortunate?

  37. trigger warning: dickish joke

    It happens because sometimes sexual chemistry just isn’t there. It’s not genetic.

    …and that leeeaves…training!

    Lol, chemistry or lack thereof may in fact be due in part to genetics (think “smell”, as in “smell due to some physiological quirk”). Kind of like why some foods make us nauseous.

    Scribbs’ vitriol has dropped off somewhat, which is a good thing because it shows that he is making progress against those toxic programs from his childhood that were planted in his mind.

    idgaf about any dominance games between scribs and the peanut gallery <====

    Jesus Christ, what’s this, the 10th time? 12th?

    I lost track of how many times I’ve been fired…autists…last hired and first fired…I’m very zfg about getting fired myself…I actually lasted more than 15 years at one company…in part because my female boss had a crush on me and wouldn’t let me transfer to another dept.

  38. One more thing about ScribblerG.

    He’s an excellent example of manosphere virtue signaling. Blax alluded to it…ScribblerG exotifies things beyond their usefulness then claims masculine enlightenment. For example, guns have usefulness the least of which is preening about them here.

    There’s nothing wrong with having preferences and I would never deny somebody the joy from their particular chosen diversion. When the diversion becomes a source of pride it’s just a matter of time before it’s real value becomes clear and lamentably so.

    Owning shit does not make a person worthwhile. Hell, my kids understood that in grade school.

  39. Anything advocating a return to the past should be met with skepticism. The past led us to where we are today. Why would we want to recreate the past and have the present become our future?

    An unwanted pregnancy is exactly that, unwanted. Why should a woman give birth to such a child?

    Ireland was long overdue legislative change. Irish women would fly over to England to have abortions. Everyone was aware of the practice, but most turned a blind eye to it. All Ireland did was remove the hypocrisy and allow women to stay in Ireland and have the procedure done there.

    “We willing ceded power for sexual access”

    The men of the sexual revolution era thought it was a good trade. Subsequent generations have benefited from it. Including yourself Rollo. Are you really trying to say you’d rather women lived in a little more existential fear with regards to pregnancy if it meant you had less (historical) sexual partners as a result?

    “Unilaterally female-controlled birth control was effectively the greatest Hypergamous failsafe ever invented. It released women from the responsibility of a bad Hypergamous decision.”

    It also released men from paying for children he didn’t intend to have.

    This essay is so riddled with inconsistencies one wonders whether it should have seen the light of day.

  40. Penis inside vagina can result in pregnancy. There shouldn’t be such a thing as ” children he didn’t intend to have “. Irresponsible. Doesn’t basic biology cover this? Sperm meets egg?

    …. 2 to tango. Men shouldn’t be as irresponsible as a woman.can be, the cry foul.

    Know.quite a few guys that were ” saddled ” with kids they didn’t want. Zfg. As furio in the sopranos once famously said, ” no bitcha to me “. I have 2 kids, no surprises. It wasn’t difficult.

  41. Sentient
    bjtucker

    “I despise male infighting. When it happens in RP comment sections, I always get a mental picture of a male feminist reeing.
    As men, we need to pick each other up, not tear down. Solidarity is our strength.”

    Well you can’t change biology. There is ‘infighting” in your words, or competition in other words UNTIL a hierarchy is established. and then in due course THAT hierarchy is challenged.

    Excellent comment Sentient.

    I fully subscribe to male tribal bantering in a hierarchical fashion. I like arguing, judging and being judged. In order to establish that meritocracy/hierarchy in a tribe.

    It’s not about Rodney King weakness in a group.

    https://youtu.be/1sONfxPCTU0

    My comments were in a vein of working on shared goals. Red pill inter-sexual dynamic goals.

    Not arguing like girls. Over time on TRM, I think most of the banter is true masculine. And advancing the goal. It’s healthy.

    I like Scribblers positive masculine growth. (But keep trying to get along with a group of guys. To actually interact in your own best interest.) If he would only give up on the “you Betas keyboard LARPing” theme, he might even seem even keeled. (You are imaginging shit about what some of us got going on in real life. The Map is not the Territory.)

    “Time posting” is not an actual thing. If you don’t want to subscribe to something someone wrote? Don’t. If you want to say something to direct the conversation? Do it.

  42. @Elysium

    T1diabetes isn’t a defect but an anachronistic adaptation to extremely cold-weather climates and paleolithic dietary norms, which for the modern ethos of sedentarism in the land of milk and honey causes issues. With the advent of insulin diabetes has become more akin to driving Stick vs. Automatic. Certainly not like driving a defective car. In fact being diabetic is in many ways advantageous since it forces one to become intimately attuned to their metabolic realities, as per diabetic burden of performance. This doesn’t make us martyrs, maybe more like mutants.

    When you take a sober look at modern diabetics who haven’t let the burdens of the condition bum them out, they are more fit and healthy than most of their normoglycemic peers. I believe this is largely psychosocial and an example of nature lighting a fire under people’s asses. LBS is the most immediate threat and that tends to happen with over-aggressive management.

    This is straight up DEERing. Defending, excusing, explaining and rationalized your behavior with girls.

    Type I Diabetes is a defect. The pancreas cannot produce insulin, because there are no beta islet cells in the pancreas. Theoretically, some thug Natural Killer Cells came along and beat the shit out of them and killed them. These Natural Killer Cells are a police force naturally floating around in your bloodstream and are charged with taking out bad guys. Here they fucked up and took out some good guys.

    The analogy is if you had no thermostat in your house and had to heat and cool with a wood burning fireplace. There is no thermostat kicking in when the heat is low, or shutting off when the heat is high. You have to manage the logs you put on the fire. No autonomic endocrine system with islet cells pumping out insulin with low blood sugar, or stopping output with high blood sugar. You, the patient have to Do The Work of regulating.

    It’s not an adaptation. It’s a defect. The beta insulin producing pancreas cells were killed off. They don’t function. Insulin injections are needed to replace their lack of functioning. The system is broke and there are work-arounds. Supplying insulin exogenously , rather than endongenous automatic generation.

    You are missing the point of the discussion. The point is in inter-sexual dynamics, it doesn’t matter. You still have to generate homeostasis in your body. Inter-sexual dynamics don’t care how that gets done. You still get judged on that best homeostasis. The best representation of yourself is what gets judge by the feminine. Put your best foot forward. Don’t expect a free pass on that. Act non-defective, even if you are.

    I don’t have a lot of other diabetic stories at the moment, although I’ve had a lot. I prefer to not make it an issue. But feel free to hit me up with other questions as it relates to Red Pill, or experiences you have going forward, or frustrations with the concept. I still think it gets back to the Grief Stages and moving forward. Don’t deny it is tough. Don’t rely on women to “come around”, don’t rely on how things ought to be, accept how they are.

  43. Anything advocating a return to the past should be met with skepticism.

    Yeah, because the situation now is soooo wonderful. So, you make a wrong turn and don’t retrace your path to get on the right path? What kind of sense is that?

    An unwanted pregnancy is exactly that, unwanted.

    Yeah, because your wants are of utmost importance, you Entitled Princess ™. I’ll stick with justice.

    Maybe I don’t want you around, so, by your logic, I have the right to wack you. Don’t be stupid.

  44. Scribbs
    You see, the new crop of trainers and training being done is driven by the shooting tactics military folks learned and developed fighting in the Afghanistan and Iraq era.

    A little learning is a dangerous thing — Alexander Pope

  45. Blaximus
    Penis inside vagina can result in pregnancy. There shouldn’t be such a thing as ” children he didn’t intend to have “. Irresponsible. Doesn’t basic biology cover this? Sperm meets egg?

    Lol. You getting old, soft in the head? C’mon. Why does the NBA tell players “Always wrap it up, and always flush the condom yourself, eh?

    Sperm inside vagina can result in pregnancy. Doesn’t have to be put there by a penis. A girlish finger will do the job, too. Some other man’s penis will do the job as well…as we all know.

    Have some ginko and vinpocetin, Blax. Get that cerebral vascularity back up to speed.

  46. Ollie
    Anything advocating a return to the past should be met with skepticism.

    Where does Rollo do that? Point to the exact text in the essay. Should be easy-peasey for you … if it is there.

  47. “Where does Rollo do that?”

    He doesn’t.

    Ollie, what is your agenda? What would you like to see different? And differently said?

    I’ma skeptic of what you are searching for.

    Taking a child away from a man and flushing that person down the drain because unilateral no reason given (hind-brain has it for the win) choice?

  48. The overwhelming majority of men aren’t professional athletes being trapped by women.

    Brain circulating just fine, thanks.😁

    Men do stupid shit because horny/dick hard/ dumbasses. I was cautioned from a very young age, even before I’d had sex, by men. The continuous message was ” don’t knock any random female up “. I never played in the NBA, but I was told to wrap it up.
    So yeah, color me anachronistic…again.

    But I’ve witnessed the change in attitudes first hand, and the fuckery that followed.

    Right here in this very site, I’ve read men revelling in intervaginal ejaculation like it’s nothing. Well, so he it, but fuck those same guys when they get strung up in child support he’ll and can’t see the ” kids they didn’t want “.

    Things have changed for the worst, and in the favor of the female. I’ll pass on that dumb shit along with ” eggs are expensive “.

    Any time I’d gone raw with a chick, I’d expected her to come up pregnant ( even if I’d pull out ). Just that mindset made you more careful and discerning. Men are not discerning enough because of desperation or something.

    They need the industrial strength Ginko.

  49. Oh, and the other thing I was taught was that ” children don’t ask to be here “. It’s rather fucked up to have kids without self examination as to whether you or ” her ” are up to task.

    Every really messed up kid I ever knew had parents that should have never had kids.

    This was the whole point of my endless roundabout with Yareally when he wanted to figure out how to have kids and still run wild in the club banging chicks. It’s easier to just stay single and without child – ” mommy where’s daddy? “, cue 50 Cent’s In Da Club.

    …. That’s why ya thought that the daughters of men here would be the ones blowing him in a bathroom.😂 He had no clue at all about fatherhood. Remember, I asked him once why he said and felt the way he did, and he said because everyone lied to him and he didn’t trust much of anyone after being lied to most of his life. Paraphrase, because he said much more than that.

    Life is somewhat traumatic for some, I get it. But I’m not in the business of excusing people for going forth with.assholery because muh life sucked.

    Or

    Go forth in assholery, just don’t have kids and fuck up their life.

  50. “An unwanted pregnancy is exactly that, unwanted.”

    By whom?

    Look, you idiot. Life is about two things and only these two: creation and personal limitlessness. Foil either or both is no big deal to me. I throw you on the mounting shitheap of inconsequence, the same heap ScribblerG prefers to crow atop.

    Again you do you. The law yet stands.

    Buffer on Ollie…

  51. Part 2 of this series might drop as soon as Sunday night. It will focus on the male existential fear.

  52. @All – Note that none of the self-anointed “leaders” of this comment section actually took on what I said in my comment about me not seeing female hypergamy as fear-based. Zero engagement with my actual critique, which was substantive and well-formed. Gosh, I thought the purpose of commenting on a post was analysis and dialog about the ideas presented. But nope, apparently this is a fucking coffee klatch. Note how meager the participation is, you guys are destroying the dialog here with your LARPing.

    @Eh – Why are you so angry at me? Why do I trigger you so hard? Questions you should answer for yourself. In my response to you, I provided an update on how my priorities are shifting and how I’m not so focused on HBs for the moment. This is the opposite of bragging about women, is it not? Are you able to even rationally process what I say? And oh yeah, I never even heard of jerking off into a sock until some other online douche mentioned that in a vid a couple of years ago. You are projecting when you harass me in that way.

    Do you think men here want to hear you whine and bitch and kvetch? Do you think that’s interesting? Do you not understand that your commentary reveals awful things about you, not me? I bet not.

    You behave like a bitch. Not unusual or even disturbing to me, as guys like you are quite common IRL. But IRL, bitches submit to me, as you would in a real social setting. They don’t give me much trouble. Mostly, they are just jealous and the best play is to let them run their mouths and show themselves for the petty little bitches they are. Then they shut themselves up, or someone else does it for me, lol. IRL – you are light work.

  53. Good Morning.

    ExCartoonist is cool in my book with a lot of potential and good intent.

    ScribblerG has had his day and now is static within his crab pot of one. ScribblerG posting as a pressured-speech metaphor of purposelessness….well….gives him purpose.

    Clever how he decieves himself. Just watch and be amazed…..

  54. ” Zero engagement with my actual critique”

    For someone who appears to be quite intelligent that comment comes off as really stupid. Dude, for nearly three years I’ve found your comments interesting and read most of them, but you’re coming off as a total dick and everybody is laughing at you. You just haven’t realized it yet.

    Being an asshole is fine at times, same with the AMOG thing. It’s your default mode and you are stuck with a broken switch. What you utterly fail to realize is that your delivery is absolutely fucking shit. A lot of guys aren’t engaging now and never will because of how you come off. Just because you are skillful at being a dick doesn’t mean you should flaunt it.

    You’re trying way too hard to prove yourself as an alpha to us. Nobody cares. What’s worse is that you look like you’re seeking validation from the group of men here. Seriously Scribbler, get a clue about this because with each rant and example of your cockalorum you create a twisted model of character self-assassination.

  55. When I think I’ve seen Peak Soy, whoomp! der it is….

    Fresh obvi. Bearded soy latte dude gets out of the passenger side of the car, walks around to the drivers side to let out his little troglodyte 4×4 dimensioned girl.

    Lol. She just sat there and waited for him…

    It Will take four hours of lax Today to erase this menory… smh

  56. Sentient

    Fresh obvi. Bearded soy latte dude gets out of the passenger side of the car, walks around to the drivers side to let out his little troglodyte 4×4 dimensioned girl.

    It’s her car, so she drives. He’s a “gentleman”, not like those retarded Chads, so of course “let me help you with that door, m’lady”. It all makes sense in the 20-something soyworld-bubble.

    We have not reached peak feminism.

  57. PS:
    At some future date something will change and he won’t be enough for her hypergamy anymore. She’ll still be driving. He’ll still be clueless.

  58. @SJF

    “Taking a child away from a man and flushing that person down the drain”

    A fetus is not a child and a man isn’t carrying a potential baby to term with all the inherent risks associated with the undertaking.

    My agenda in as far as I have one would be aligned with most, in preventing the dilution of the red pill. Although I would also see the message and any topics arising from it, strengthened. Strengthened to the point of unassailability. I don’t want the likes of me being able to come along and poke holes in a thesis.

    The Rational Male is the message’s birthing chamber and I would it were as Hercules in his crib, strangling the life out of the serpents sent to kill him. So as he grows, subdue the nemean lion with his bare hands and at maturity hold the heavens upon his shoulders.

  59. Slightly off topic…
    Dawn Wall – the movie just released on Netflix. More crack for retired climbers…
    Interesting back-story about Tom Caldwell, the main climber. Had a fairy-tail relationship with a climber girl of his dreams. Traveled the world with her in various climbing and other adventures. Married her. Built a house in the valley. She promptly branch-swings eight years later.
    Wonder what happened there. Wonder how oblivious he was about RP (answer: totally)

    Much respect for him as a climber…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Caldwell#/media/File:Tommy_Caldwell_(2015).jpg

  60. Been thinking about Rollo’s post and wondering whether women’s existential fear goes even deeper than he suggests.

    Years ago, when I was still married, I had a dream in which our infant son was killed in an accident. I woke up to a little boy very much alive (and still is!) but I was brooding on it for a while. The dream brought up huge fears and I wanted to know what it was telling me about myself. I had no intention of sharing this process with my then-wife, but she sensed something was going on and she kept wanting to know. Eventually, she challenged me with “Do you respect me so little that you think I can’t handle it?” which pissed me off, so I told her.

    She freaked. I mean, I found the dream disturbing but her fear level was off the scale! If you can imagine a firework display of fear and terror and worry, you’d be pretty close. And she was furious with me, of course, for putting the thought in her head. She sat me down and demanded I promise her that nothing would happen to our boy.

    ‘Darling,’ I said, ‘I will do everything in my power to make sure nothing bad happens to our son.’
    ‘That’s not enough!’ she said. ‘I want a guarantee!’
    ‘I can’t “guarantee” it! No man can!’
    ‘PROMISE!’
    ‘Even if it’s a lie?’
    ‘But it won’t be a lie if you promise! The truth is what you MAKE it!’

    That last phrase rings in my head, even now. Of course, I see the truth rather differently and I told her: That child-rearing always involves an element of risk, no matter what measures we take. And that the best way of lessening that risk was to teach our son to take care of himself competently.

    Thing was: she did understand intellectually, but her feelings were driving her mad. She still wanted me to promise. She said one of the reasons she married me was because I was a man of my word, so if I gave my word that nothing would happen to the boy, it would make her fear go away. I told her that part of being a man of my word was that I only gave it when I knew I could keep it.

    ‘What’s the point of THAT?’ she said.

    It suddenly hit me that she saw my ability to keep a promise almost as a kind of ‘magic power’—something easier for men than for women. And she was angry with me because, on the level of feelings, I was refusing to use my ‘power’ to protect our son and release her from her fear.

    I don’t want to generalise about women, but this is what I saw with my wife at the time: Despite the Feminist message of female empowerment and agency and independence, deep down my wife didn’t believe it. She WANTED it to be true, but she didn’t know how ‘agency’ worked. She would see me handle a situation which she found scary and afterwards say to me, ‘How do you DO that?’ And I would tell her that overcoming fear is a process that anyone can learn, but I don’t think she believed me. It was as though I had a secret that only men were privy to. And when she occasionally accused me of being a ‘typical male oppressor’, it was not because I was holding her back, but because I was refusing to share this secret with her.

  61. “The dream brought up huge fears . . .”

    The huge fears brought up the dream. The dream made it so that you couldn’t turn your head away from them and pretend they weren’t there.

    What your wife wanted was that you hadn’t had the dream, that you “just got” that your life was your son’s bond, your very existence the promise covertly. What she was upset about was having to ask you to make the promise overtly, that the thought to do so should even have had to cross her mind.

    There was a time when even men might measure another man by how well he kept that bond. Now, of course, it is criminal.

  62. Ollie says: A fetus is not a child and a man isn’t carrying a potential baby to term….

    Ok. Why stop at the fetus is not a child? A newborn isn’t much more a person than a fetus.

    The deal with your erred logic is you torture the word fetus into something that makes it easier to kill. Get your grammar down before logic.

    Tiergartenstrasse 4. Google it. These dudes had the same logic.

  63. Ex-Cartoonist

    Do you understand this continual paradigm talked about dogs are different than cats? Men are logical and speak to other men with straight-forward logical discussion.

    Females are emotional and use their feelings to gauge the discussion. Existential fear drives their behavior.

    Your comment brought up a recent passage I was reading in BluePillProfessor’s book and is related to the dialogue with Elysium:

    It has to do with MRP and generation of attraction triggers in an increasingly difficult to do milieu which is modern society.

    The ten of which is:

    Get in shape
    Be more confident
    Provide physical protection
    Be the leader for your wife, and the relationship
    Provide positive emotional support (don’t be an emotional tampon)
    Give her strong emotions
    Control her emotional storms
    Be unfazed by her beauty
    Be mysterious and aloof
    Show her covertly that you have other options

    One of them: Provide positive emotional support.

    Start to provide positive emotional support (and don’t be a bitch). This is in addition to the entire “Beta Bucks” material provisioning racket. None of this gets her wet, but it does provide necessary comfort for a relationship. This is what we mean by a “Positive Frame” which is discussed later. If you were a positive, fun loving, upbeat, successful guy who sees the good in everything, you would probably not be reading this book. If you walked into a room and everybody waves and smiles because you always bring the good times, you would probably not be reading this book. So work on it! This is a battle that lasts an entire lifetime, and you don’t need to be perfect. You just need to be better, and to get good at getting better.

    At a minimum you need to avoid complaining about yourself or your problems to your wife, even if it is a legitimate medical pain. There is an old saying that a man cares little for a woman’s feelings if he is not prepared to lie to protect them. Obviously this does not mean hiding a legitimate medical complaint, but even then you go to the doctor. You don’t complain about a known medical condition to your wife! Not if you want to have sex with her. You are the MAN! Complain to your buddies, complain to your mommy. Don’t complain to your wife. Let me repeat it: She can be your lover or your mommy- pick one.

  64. excartoonist has the best comment of the day:

    Eventually, she challenged me with “Do you respect me so little that you think I can’t handle it?” which pissed me off, so I told her.

    Shit test – failed. Because you were brainwashed with that equalism-equalist Feminist cowshit that “women and men are just alike except women can haz baybees”, so you took her at her word and figured she could handle it like a man.

    Been there, done that, taken the shit. Because when you finally tell a woman something she doesn’t really need to hear, there’s that moment when all the air gushes out of her balloon of pride. Once a woman even insisted “Tell me! TELL ME!” about a bad situation I had to deal with, so I told her. Then she sighed “I wish I didn’t know”.

    I’m a slow learner. Shoulda known better. But I know now.


    She freaked. I mean, I found the dream disturbing but her fear level was off the scale! If you can imagine a firework display of fear and terror and worry, you’d be pretty close. And she was furious with me, of course, for putting the thought in her head. She sat me down and demanded I promise her that nothing would happen to our boy.

    Of course she freaked, because women experience these emotions differently than men do. Science agrees.

    https://www.psypost.org/2015/09/brain-imaging-study-shows-women-experience-negative-emotions-differently-than-men-37932

    Despite the Feminist message of female empowerment and agency and independence, deep down my wife didn’t believe it. She WANTED it to be true, but she didn’t know how ‘agency’ worked.

    This right here is a clear example of how women are not men, even though they want to be, they want it so bad they mimic us in the magical-thinking expectation that somehow they can wish it to be so. Ever wonder why so many women are easy marks for con artists? Why so many of them believe in astrology or palm reading, etc? The hard-charging MBA businessPERSON who sits on an airliner making little gestures with her hands right before takeoff….”just for luck”…as if that makes any difference?

    They are just girls, that’s why.

    They have continual doubts that must be mollified, smoothed over, somehow kept at bay, and that extends to the topic of the OP – the existential fear.

    PS; Men are the ones who deal with stuff, and sometimes it means keeping silent for a while (game 100) or changing the subject (101) etc. Because the girls around them often can’t handle the truth.

    Again, an excellent comment.

  65. @ kfg

    I agree with your statement that unconscious fears would have brought up the dream. That’s often how it works. But I’m not sure what you mean by “…that your life was your son’s bond, your very existence the promise covertly”.

  66. Blaximus
    The overwhelming majority of men aren’t professional athletes being trapped by women.

    So what? You wrote a dumb thing, contradicted by basic biology. Deal with it.

    Brain circulating just fine, thanks.😁

    Fact not necessarily in evidence. This rabbit trail, for example.

    Men do stupid shit because horny/dick hard/ dumbasses.

    Yeah. So?

    I was cautioned from a very young age, even before I’d had sex, by men. The continuous message was ” don’t knock any random female up “. I never played in the NBA, but I was told to wrap it up.
    So yeah, color me anachronistic…again.

    And if we time-machined back to 15 year old Blax…what would he say? LOL!

    But I’ve witnessed the change in attitudes first hand, and the fuckery that followed.
    Right here in this very site, I’ve read men revelling in intervaginal ejaculation like it’s nothing. Well, so he it, but fuck those same guys when they get strung up in child support he’ll and can’t see the ” kids they didn’t want “.

    Yep. So?

    Things have changed for the worst, and in the favor of the female.

    Hey, finally something that connects with the OP. Great!

    All this jibber from Spergatron about abortion is a rabbit trail of his usual spergyness.

    The OP of Rollo points out the facts: women have total control of their own reproduction. They now choose which Y gene lines continue and which ones do not. Their reproductive strategy is ascendent – AF-BB and/or AF-Beta Cucks. It’s up to men to cope / deal with it.

    That would be worth discussing. Arguing “woulda/coulda/shoulda” about Plan B and hormonal contraception and IUD’s and so forth is just pointless, although surely entertaining to autists who can’t find their fiddle-toys. Men, on the other hand…

    Anyway, all this “In MAH DAY” is just old-man talk that doesn’t provide anything actionable. I don’t need to know how to fix the brakes on a Model T, either…

  67. “The huge fears brought up the dream. The dream made it so that you couldn’t turn your head away from them and pretend they weren’t there.”

    This is a huge concept, and praxeologically helpful in Red Pill. Blue pill is the avoidance of fears via buffers, red pill embraces what is really going on here.

    At times in my Red Pill Reconstruction, I embraced my dreams. And often had night sweats embracing those REM sleep dreams. To get it all out in the fucking open.

    Last year, I was seeing a functional medicine doctor in an optimization therapy program. He suggested taking some supplements for anti-oxidants because I had a low antibody titer of Anti-Nuclear Antibodies without any symptoms or signs of that. He suggested: Low dose Naltrexone, Glutathione and CBD oil. I wasn’t interested in the latter, got bored with the middle one, but glommed on to the former, because the only one side effect was vivid dreams. (and it increases endorphins and enkephalins, while contraverting one’s subversive immune system).

    It worked as advertised. Great scary dreams were had and were dealt with. For the win. I loved/love it.

    (Wow, I got eight spell-checkers on that one that I didn’t change.)

  68. @ex-cartoonist:

    From your wife’s perspective of how you should simply “be,” and thus make her feel:

    Wrong: I have doubts that I can protect my son from all harm. Nay, more than that, I know that it is, in fact, impossible to protect my son from all harm. I can prove it to you if I have to. This makes me afraid.

    Right: You have threatened the life of my child. I will find you, and I will kill you.

  69. Blaximus
    Oh, and the other thing I was taught was that ” children don’t ask to be here “. It’s rather fucked up to have kids without self examination as to whether you or ” her ” are up to task.

    Hard to believe there are things in the world I’ve seen that you haven’t. But…

    When girls get baby-rabies, they will get pregnant. Single or married. They’ll find a way to get sperm that is “alpha enough” onto their cervix. I’ve seen unmarried women go out and get a “sperm donor” to knock them up, never marry, have only the one child. Because she wanted it to be so. I’ve seen married women who can’t conceive divorce their till-death-do-us-part, move to another state and remarry – then get knocked up. Guess how many of those men knowingly participated in impregnation?

    Gee, I wonder if the single girls who wanted to get knocked up looked some man in the eyes and said “Don’t worry, I’m on the Pill!”? None, for sure, because “girls never lie”, right?

    LOL!

    On the flip side, and not getting into the “oughta!” argument, how many married women have decided that “N is enough” for some number N of children, and quietly aborted any later pregnancy – without bothering to consult or even tell what’s-his-name, the man they married? Is it zero? Not in my observed reality…

    All of this isn’t to stir your pot about “mah CONdoms!”, or to get spergatron started on his churchianity. It’s to point out that Rollo is completely correct in his assessment:

    In the industrialized world, women have 100% control of reproduction. There are a number of implications – babymommas and cucked men are just two of the obvious ones.

    Not so obvious: women’s emotional seas are choosing the next generation of Y chromosomes.

    What traits are women choosing? What does the future look like as a result?

    Deeper waters than some realize.

  70. @ SJF

    That is a defeatist mindset. Every time you stand upon it as though you have accepted some kind of grim but absolute reality you are reinforcing it for yourself.

    Your logs on the fire metaphor is apt in terms of management, but does that make the fire defective? Someone engaging that method must go out, axe the trees, chop the wood, collect the piles, and manage the flame. This is a much more involved method, it requires patience and diligence, physical strength and the ability to overcome obstacles. One can even achieve a perfectly well-regulated thermal environment for their home if they practice this method and hone their skills, as per their burden of performance. There is a greater risk you will burn your house down, but if you can manage that risk effectively you will be all the stronger for it. I dare suggest that all of these extra things a person must do to achieve a well-regulated internal environment without the convenience of a thermostat actually make them a stronger, healthier person assuming they don’t fold under the socially imposed notion they are defective.

    I’ll refer to the ‘Good Timber’ poem by Douglas Malloch, you may be familiar with it:

    The tree that never had to fight
    For sun and sky and air and light,
    But stood out in the open plain
    And always got its share of rain,
    Never became a forest king
    But lived and died a scrubby thing.

    The man who never had to toil
    To gain and farm his patch of soil,
    Who never had to win his share
    Of sun and sky and light and air,
    Never became a manly man
    But lived and died as he began.

    Good timber does not grow with ease,
    The stronger wind, the stronger trees,
    The further sky, the greater length,
    The more the storm, the more the strength.
    By sun and cold, by rain and snow,
    In trees and men good timbers grow.

    Where thickest lies the forest growth
    We find the patriarchs of both.
    And they hold counsel with the stars
    Whose broken branches show the scars
    Of many winds and much of strife.
    This is the common law of life.

    A chronic health condition does not make things easier, but it builds character and strength of resolve if you are adaptive and have a positive attitude. That goes for all conditions that impact one’s burden of performance. Every life that is abandoned due to socially inspired screening and the ease of abortion is one that lost their fighting chance, and every person that views their burden as a defect displays weakness of character. The thermostat method you allude to only requires you to set your Internal Climate Control from your Smart Phone. This phenomenon is why so many people today are dealing with metabolic issues and why a lot of people with chronic conditions deal with self-defeating depression and anxiety. It’s an attitude problem, and it reflects one’s frame. If you believe you are defective then speak for yourself.

  71. ExCartoonist ex says: ‘But it won’t be a lie if you promise! The truth is what you MAKE it!’ then ExCartoonist buffers: “Thing was: she did understand intellectually”

    Nah, she doesn’t understand intellectually and you aren’t clear either. First, stop torturing words.

    Let me lay this down…..

    “understand intellectually”

    Understanding is not knowledge. Intellect is not wisdom. If I can change your knowledge of the word understanding into something intuitive from something created what else do you think I could change about your thinking? We know the word blue to describe blue things….why? And is there any reason we shouldn’t call blue, yellow? I can think of a few.

    Feminine gendered male. Masculine gendered female. Both examples are incompossible in a sexual sense and critical for our culture’s twisted teaching of humanity. We understand intuitively boys should be raised as masculine but we know boys should be raised feminine if we accept that pliable, mushy gender is the defining orientation and guiding human operating principle of the boy. If you don’t accept it as so that’s o.k….but the culture does and that requires you to too to some extent, maybe…to a point you see you own son inculcated beta (or worse) into dressing like a woman and aping the female mannerisms for the sake of current higher knowledge of human progress.

    Ok. Back to your quotes….

    “‘But it won’t be a lie if you promise! The truth is what you MAKE it!’ ”

    You intuitively understand that she can say this but that does not make it true, as is all ways and always true. We call that truth “Capital T Truth” in my house.

    She’s talking lower case truth and you didn’t accept it in your heart but didn’t know where to go with the frustration. I totally UNDERSTAND how you felt.

    “Thing was: she did understand intellectually”

    You give her waaaaaay too much credit and probably give others too much credit for their opinion of what is true. You can’t logically say she’s illogical…then say she is. It’s a big failure of men to equilibrate a woman’s capacity to know their emotions to a man’s ability to understand what is actually going on. So men will create elaborate buffering schemes to square all these incongruent circles in their sex, personal, career lives as…..the definitions of almost everything, it seems, is twisted to fit the logic but not the reality. Then, at some point, when all that truth falls apart, in desperation they look for answers exactly where the problem originated outside themselves…or worse, look for an immediate end to the frustration. Nothing’s more true than death. Nothing illogical about that. Even kids understand and accept death, and recover, better than a divorce. Why do you think that is so?

    So what to do?

    Well first, give Caesar what’s Caesar’s….and no more.

    The point is, ExCartoonist, there’s a lot out there you do have control over, though probably aren’t acting on it as you react to the world based on false definitions, definitions of reality that are provided to you by others for their benefit.

    Example being: You boss wants your compliance, not your soul. So don’t give it to him. He wants you to give as much or more than you receive from your arrangement, generally. It seems so everywhere else, though to think that falls into the trap of “all this is hopeless”. That is the definition of fear. There’s nothing sadder than a man who loses faith in himself and turns outside his MPoO, looking for that next placeholder, like ScribblerG’s guns for instance, to justify living another day.

    There’s a reason you’re still in the game, my man. That reason keeps you alive. You don’t have to go far to find it, btw, but that requires courage.

    You got it in you, you know, to find that reason?

  72. Elysium

    “Your logs on the fire metaphor is apt in terms of management, but does that make the fire defective?”

    Fire has it’s use. People are useful only in a Human Resources sense. No, the fire qua fire isn’t defective though people are not pure nature, in the evo-bio sense, thus you aptly wrote: “Every life that is abandoned due to socially inspired screening and the ease of abortion is one that lost their fighting chance, and every person that views their burden as a defect displays weakness….”

    Nice.

    SJF writes nothing of abandoning life. I see that all human life is defective and DM is just one of many defects. That’s why doctors are to heal us, not destroy us, as an example. The defect doesn’t invalidate the person. Being a fetus…cough Ollie cough…doesn’t make if defective life, a fetus has a use, it’s supposed to be a fetus at the time it is a fetus.

    IOW, we must ask ourselves, individually and in aggregate, who are we? Do I accept my defect as well as another’s? If so, how do we navigate a world, as a man, where some defects are now virtues and some remain plain old defects…i.e. men are defective women.

    You and SJF are talking past each other, IMO, speaking from opposite sides of the same coin. I better stop now.

  73. Dominance hiararchies are very important especially when someone new comes along.

    It is great there are teachers who know their students. Even when the student is having a bad day and knows that the hierarchy is being established but later takes things out of context, the teacher is there helping the student.

  74. @Elysium

    I dare suggest that all of these extra things a person must do to achieve a well-regulated internal environment without the convenience of a thermostat actually make them a stronger, healthier person assuming they don’t fold under the socially imposed notion they are defective.

    I don’t disagree with your masculine mindset. But we are talking about different things. I like your stoic mindset about doing your best and thinking your best about the situation.

    Your take is that its no big deal. You are not defective without islet cells in your pancreas. That’s good. But it is a mindset. It’s how you deal well with your own health.

    My point is that how you deal with that with a girlfriend in a Red Pill awareness fashion is to not let her existential fears about you fucking her get in the way of a healthy relationship with her. Not showing the butt-hurt about her not having empathy, when you think she should. That’s not how the red pill works.

    I am not fundamentally at odds. You have a good mindset in telling yourself you are not a medically defective individual. If we are sticking to the praxeology, it still behooves you to not be thinking she will give you the benefit of the doubt when you have low blood sugar and have to suck on her Fudgsicle ® bars.

    In other words, we are cross-talking. (Conversation that is incidental to the topic under discussion.)

    I see your point and your Mental Point of Origin. Which is healthy. Do you see my point in regards to women’s existential fear? You don’t seem to agree with mine or Novaseeker’s point. Not that you need to. It’s just more attractive to women to not provoke their existential fears when fucking them on the regular.

  75. A newborn isn’t much more a person than a fetus.

    “Late Middle English: from Latin fetus ‘pregnancy, childbirth, offspring’.”

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fetus

    “fetus” = “baby in the womb”

    And Ollie isn’t much more of a person than a newborn is. Not much of a stretch for wacking him to be considered retroactive abortion using Ollie’s own logic.

    The point is–what goes around comes around. Something for Ollie to think about.

  76. EhIntellect stated:

    It’s a big failure of men to equilibrate equate a woman’s capacity to know their emotions to a man’s ability to understand what is actually going on.

    Red Pill truths.

  77. Behold; I tell you The Truth; Christianity can survive almost anything; except a room full of people laughing at how fucking stupid it is.

  78. AR

    😁

    Let’s use your ” brakes on a model a T ” thing for a sec ( I can fix brakes and anything else on a model T btw….not that I’d want to ).

    Combustion engines ( air pumps ) all work on a singular principle ( aealt – all engines are like that ). Whether it’s a model T or an Agera. Fuel, air, spark. Without these old.fashioned basics, combustion engines do not run, or run properly.

    Knowing this isn’t necessarily ” back in muh day ” stuff because it is factually true and timeless.

    Sure, buggati is more complex, and has more engineering and sensors and engine management systems, but if you don’t understand fuel, air, spark, you can never hope to be successful at working on one.

    Nor a.Ford festiva for that matter.

    Btw, 15 year old Blaximus wore condoms😁. That’s why I have 2 kids instead of 30.

    There are basics that don’t change in many things. Intersexual stuff is only more complex, but understanding the basics is still king.

    I’ll take your word for it if you say women ” control ” reproduction. I don’t believe it at all, but I can understand the mindset. Eggs are expensive, blah blah blah, men are mindless idiots that can be made to do anything women.want, etc.

    Girl power.

    I’m trying to help. I don’t buy all of the current fuckery because I understand fuel, air, spark. So all I’m saying is ” hey, think about it like this… ” but I get it if I’m met with ” NOOOOO, THE WOMEN!!!! THE WOMEN!!!!! “.

    Some have forgotten what it is to be a man. Some never knew. Nobody wants to hear ” this is the way it used to work before men lost control/balls”.

    It is, what it is.

    As sentient would say, ” let him with ears hear “.

    Or something like that.

  79. It will be very interesting to see what happens when a reliable male fertility control ‘pill’ is finally developed. I don’t think it will have the same impact as the female BCP but my guess is that it will re-alter the balance of power in a couple of significant ways.

    The first is that a male BCP will be leveraged by hypergamy. It won’t be as ubiquitous as the female BCP, but it will used by men who have something to lose; i.e. Men with fame, money, children, and families. This in turn will up the ante on women because getting ‘knocked up’ might not be an option. Every “oops” pregnancy I have ever heard of was more of a surprise for the man than the woman. It won’t just be doctors recommending it to men. Financial planners, accountants, lawyers, parents, and athletic coaches will be the ones pushing it.
    Once it is a reality, it will put significant pressure on women to commit earlier because the odds of carrying and alpha’s child will decrease increasing the risk of holding out.

    The other revolutionary technological trick for men is that now, thanks’ to DNA, we can be absolutely 100% certain of paternity. The west is still dominated by feminism but eventually, we will legally evolve towards a system where men will not be able to escape responsibility, for good or ill. The rest of society will eventually become tired of cads, women and their bastards sitting on our necks and when that happens, women will not have as many choices as they do now.

  80. Women have ” power ” because men cede ” power “. Anatomically they are exactly the same as they’ve been for thousands of years. They didn’t suddenly get stronger.

    Even talking of ” having something to lose ” or somehow looking for anything outside of yourself to save you from all them Badass women out there is a mental ceding of manhood and asking for some form of mercy.

    Male birth control, huh?

    Really?

    Every time I hear that I’m disappointed. It’s a man saying ” I give up. It’s too hard. But I still wanna…. Somebody help me. “.

    It’s too hard. Women run the world because vagina. It’s all different now. They have taken all of the strength and resolve. There’s o hope for men.

    Please. Stop that.

  81. @Sentient Re “Peak soy” this “doing nice things for her” —which should be the title of a Post here—means guys ruin it for other guys.

    It reminds me of the story a US sailor told me about Canadian sailors. He said they ruined it for the rest of the navies because they always paid full price for everything without haggling.

    Since I now only bang millennials I do notice something interesting. Many don’t expect me to do shit like that. One plate stopped trying to get me to do those little “hold this” shit tests saying “You’re from a different era”.

  82. Behold; I tell you The Truth; Christianity can survive almost anything; except a room full of people laughing at how fucking stupid it is.

    Somehow Christianity has survived human torching, crucifixion, and other forms of persecution…do you think that your soyboy sniggering from the peanut gallery will bring it down?

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