Children and Cornfields

Does anyone remember the episode of the Twilight Zone called “It’s a Good Life“? I rewatched this for this article and I’ve got to stay it still holds up and it’s just as creepy as when I watched it as a kid.

Six-year-old Anthony Fremont looks like any other little boy, but looks can be deceiving: he is a monster, a mutant with godlike mental powers, including mind-reading. Years before, he isolated his town of Peaksville, Ohio. Everybody is under his rule, even his parents. Since he’s begun isolating the town, supplies of common household items, such as bar soap, have been dwindling. He has blocked television signals, caused cars to not work, and, due to his controlling everything, he does not attend school.

The children and adults, including his own parents, tiptoe nervously around him, constantly telling him how everything he does is “good,” since displeasing him can get them wished away into a mystical “cornfield”, an unknown place, from which there is no return. At one point, a dog is heard barking angrily. Anthony thinks the dog is “bad” and doesn’t “like [him] at all,” and wishes it into the cornfield. His father and mother are horrified, but they dare not show it.

One night, due to the townsfolk having always done what he wants, he treats them to one hour of TV. Although they do not like what he shows, they tell Anthony that it was far better than what used to be on TV.

Finally, at Dan Hollins’ birthday party, he gets two presents from his wife: a bottle of brandy and a Perry Como record. As Dan is eager to listen to the record, he is reminded by everyone that Anthony does not like singing. Getting slightly drunk from the brandy, complaining about not listening to the record, and no one singing “Happy Birthday” to him, Dan cannot take the strain anymore and confronts Anthony, calling him a monster and a murderer. While Anthony’s anger grows, Dan yells for someone to attack Anthony from behind and end his reign of terror. Aunt Amy (who isn’t able to sing anymore because of Anthony) tentatively reaches for a fireplace poker, but no one has the courage to act. Anthony cries out to Dan, “You’re a bad man! You’re a very bad man! And you keep thinking bad thoughts about me!” Dan is transformed into a jack-in-the-box (ending his life), causing his wife to break down. The adults are horrified at what Anthony had done, and his father begs him to wish it into the cornfield, which he does.

Because of Amy’s earlier complaints about the heat, Anthony causes snow to begin falling outside. His father observes that the snow will kill off at least half the crops, and he is about to confront Anthony about this, but his wife and the other adults look on with worried smiles on their faces. The father then smiles and tells Anthony in a horror-tinged voice, “…But it’s good you’re making it snow. A real good thing. And tomorrow… tomorrow’s gonna be a… real ‘good’ day!”

I didn’t really understand the significance of this episode until recently. In a sense I guess I can attribute it to a more defined Red Pill Lens but the femosphere events and a few articles brought to my attention this last week reminded me of this Twilight Zone story. I’ll get to why in a bit.

The first event was the highly publicized not guilty verdict in the Jian Gomeshi rape (hoax) trial. Mike Cernovich had a quick hit post about the details here. I’ve written about the particulars of why women’s insecurity about optimizing Hypergamy drives them to insane lengths to control for it before, but my focus this time with Gomeshi wasn’t so much about the women’s lying, or the ambiguity of what constitutes rape or sexual harassment. When the Rolling Stone/UVA fraternity rape hoax was finally revealed for what it was I wrote Hysteria :

Transferring information about a man’s preselected approval amongst a collective of women is one such override. However, it’s very important for men living in a feminine-primary social order to understand that social proof is not just limited to preselection of men as potential partners.

This social proof dynamic extends to the perceptions of women in a collective peer group, as well as men for whom they have no sexual interest in, but serve their material interests nonetheless.

The current cultural atmosphere of male suspicion and autonomous rape-threat assessment of men is another variation of this perceptual, hysterical, collective belief dynamic. Women want to believe in the presumption that every man outside of their preselected, collective approved, hypergamous ideal  is a potential rape threat. In other words, a man who might, by force or coercion, assume control of her hypergamous sexual selection.

The narrative, the perception, is all that matters.

[…]women become so ego-invested in the certainty of their collective perceptions that, even in light of contrary evidence, the only acknowledged verification of that perception is how it makes them feel.

This contradiction of a collective feminine hysteria is what many luminaries of the Feminine Imperative are now being forced to confront. It’s important to remember during this UVa / Rolling Stone rape debacle that women, and more than a few enabling male sympathizers, wanted to believe this travesty was true in spite of the vaudevillian outlandishments and still refuse to accept that it isn’t.

gomeshi

The overwhelming zeitgeist consensus in this case was that the women concerned in Gomeshi’s rape trial were to be believed irrespective of facts that exonerated him. And so strong was this sentiment that suggesting the suspension of the most fundamental aspects of law was the first recourse to be considered – that consideration is to change the presumption of guilt where it affects the accusations of men by women.

Once again, just as in the UVA rape hoax, we see a feminine-primary collective social consciousness moved by a need to believe in order to maintain a collective ego-investment in that social order’s correctness. And all of that in spite of all controverting, unignorable evidence. However, the feminine conditioned reflex for feminine defined ‘justice’ in this regard has been taken a step further – an accusation of rape or sexual assault is as good as a conviction.

I can’t be too sympathetic for Gomeshi. He built his reputation on being a social justice warrior and a self-evincing ‘male feminist, but just like another notable male feminist, Hugo Schwyzer, he’s had to learn the hard way that feminist Game comes with a substantial risk.

However the salient point I took away from his trial wasn’t that women are duplicitous or a feminized society being too ready to unquestioningly presume the veracity of another woman’s rape claims. Neither was it unexpected that a need to believe that presumed guilt would come up. What struck me was the push for control, for absolute unilateral arbitrative power to condemn a man for the accusation of sexual misconduct.

What struck me was that the Feminine Imperative should seek to nakedly place itself above a rule of law that is otherwise founded on a logical, rational process of checks and balances (or at least intends to do so).

As the protests and debate swirled around Gomeshi I was also made aware of a review of a new book Girls & Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape

An economics major taking a gender studies class is getting dressed in her college dorm room for a night out, cheerfully discussing sexual stereotyping in advertising with Orenstein — while at the same time grabbing a miniskirt and a bottle of vodka, the better to achieve her evening goal: to “get really drunk and make out with someone.” “You look hot,” her friend tells her — and the student, apparently registering the oddness of the scene, turns to Orenstein. “In my gender class I’m all, ‘That damned patriarchy,’ ” she says. “But . . . what’s the point of a night if you aren’t getting attention from guys?” Her ambition, she explains, “is to be just slutty enough, where you’re not a prude but you’re not a whore. . . . Finding that balance is every college girl’s dream, you know what I mean?”

Author Peggy Orenstien serves up the same reheated feminist alarmism for her young daughter that Hannah Rosin did 8 years ago. However, Orenstien escalates the narrative much in the same vein that the feminist reaction to Gomeshi has. She defines it for us:

For guys, she says, there is fun and pleasure; for girls (at least the straight ones), too little physical joy, too much regret and a general sense that the boys are in charge. Fully half the girls in Orenstein’s book say they’ve been coerced into sex, and many had been raped — among them, by the way, that econ major, who was so confused that when her assailant dropped her off the next morning, she told him, “Thanks, I had fun.” The sexual playing field Orenstein describes is so tilted no girl could win.

Orenstein presumes the control of a girl with a handle of vodka and dressed ‘just slutty enough’ rest entirely with the boys she’s making out with and more. They are ‘assailants’ by definition – a definition that depends on the Hypergamous whims of the woman involved.

I drew parallels between these stories because they are indicative of a trend I predicted a couple years ago – in a social order that prioritizes Hypergamy as the intersexual priority, men who wont cooperate with it must be legislated into complying with it. But as it develops now this doesn’t go far enough; men must be preemptively convicted of the crime of sexual misconduct before the they are ever judged worthy of a woman’s sexual interests. In other words, men are ‘assailants’ for the very attempt of presenting themselves for the intimate approval of women.

Monday’s Price of Nice post and the femosphere response to men’s want to be Nice in order to ingratiate themselves in the hopes that they might endear a woman to him highlights this even further. Men being ‘nice’ are by definition ‘assailants’.

But it’s not enough to discourage men’s niceties, they must be taught to fear the attempt of initiating anything looking like intimacy. They must fear being whisked away to the cornfield for not thinking the right way about the women they would hope to find favor with.

Commenter SJF had a poignant comment this week:

Infantile as they are, women are ill-equipped to handle power, and that which is born out of the insecurity that a man may do her wrong, turns into an exploitative, predatory misuse of power that fuels grandiose narcissism, and thus masculinizes her. The aforementioned relationships between the different aspects of the female psyche do not explain in it in its entirety, but nonetheless, should accurately depict its root and core.

Which brings us back to our six year old Anthony Fremont in the Twilight Zone episode. On a social scale we are rapidly approaching a time where coddling the childish impulsivity of women will dictate not just the rule of law for men, but will define the nature of men’s dealing with women on a fear based level. In fact we’re already beginning to see this in the workplace.

Taken to its intended and illogical extreme, given unilateral God-like arbitration of men in every aspect of society, politics, religion, academia, etc., women and their imperatives would define intersexual relations much in the same way as Anthony does with the ‘adults’ he controls.

 

 

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kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“The bone is pretty easy to see in that hatchet face…”

That one looks like a storm trooper in the latter days of the siege of Stalingrad.

emilyy96
5 years ago

Yeah yeah.. ofc I can’t join that goes w/o saying. But like what is it? Like a skype convo or something? “BTW, LeeLee’s comment about staying home with her baby & hanging out on social media / uselessnet web forums is something every man under 30 needs to pay attention to. ” What Lee Lee’s comment actually shows is that RPW try wayy to hard to be traditional wives, and fail at it. Real traditional women would love to stay home with their newborn baby and wouldn’t feel STUCK at home and hindered from going to the salon or shopping… Read more »

Weyman Lundquist
Weyman Lundquist
5 years ago

I am one of your biggest fans Rollo, but sometimes you fail to report the entire story and this is hard to take. An excerpt from the Peggy orenstein article below:

“Oh, but just one thing — plenty of the girls Orenstein interviews don’t see it that way at all, and it’s to her credit that she documents them pushing back against what they view as her old-school assumptions. “

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Traditional Mother’s Song What’ll we do with the baby-o? What’ll we do with the baby-o? What’ll we do with the baby-o? If he don’t go to sleepy-O? Wrap him up in calico, Wrap him up in calico, Wrap him up in calico, Send him to his mammy-o. What’ll we do with the baby-o? etc. Wrap him up in a table-cloth, (3x ) Throw him up in the fodder-loft. What’ll we do with the baby-o? etc. Tell your daddy wllen he comes home, (3 times) And give Old Blue your chicken bone. What’ll we do with the baby-o? etc. Dance him… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

“Yeah yeah.. ofc I can’t join that goes w/o saying. But like what is it? Like a skype convo or something?”

It’s a way for us to make fun of you behind your back. <3

Here, check out the archives while-u-wait.

http://www.themantable.net/category/shows.html

YaReally
YaReally
5 years ago

@keyser Soze “Jian Ghomeshi used the persona(game) of “nice guy” / feminist supporter to get women, and when they ended up in his bedroom , he flipped into a dominant alpha, that caused those women to be turned off (and disgusted). These pussies knew he was no dominant and there was no tingles (though he fucked some beautiful 9s)” No, if that was the case they wouldn’t have kept in contact with him or fucked him again. This is just some bitter projection shit. @Kyfshdifhsaufidohasfd “We really have no idea what the initial socio-sexual dynamics between Gomeshi and the Liars… Read more »

Jeremy
5 years ago

@Pinelero

Just go to the femen twitter page, put your hand over everything below her neck, and what you’ve got is a man. Caitlyn Jenner looks more fuckable than whatever that is.

Luxocrat
Luxocrat
5 years ago

@ Cosmococcic

You wrote “Unfortunately, I’m aware of this because it’s likely my son will attend such a university within two years.”

I would say it is fortunate you ARE aware for your son’s sake. I email my son these posts and make sure be reads the comments as well. ✌🎩💯👌

Jeremy
5 years ago

Actually, when I run the same test on all the other females on this page:
https://twitter.com/FemenCanada

The only one who actually looks female is the second from the left.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
5 years ago

@yareally. No. Non of them fucked him. They were after him for advancing their careers not because they were tingled by him. He thought they will be ok with his “style of domination ” as some women did. He never wanted to get married to ANY woman (I’d rule out the Madonna/whore thing). He thought those three women were like the rest (who took a punch or two ,lol). They kept contacting him for many reasons, they wanted to be seen with him, they wanted to find a way to fuck him without taking a punch out of a guy… Read more »

Johnycomelately
Johnycomelately
5 years ago

I think aspect of the FI that is overlooked is the unnerving understanding (by females) of the lack of ‘control’ they have for alphas and the ease at which their state control (self control) can be subordinated without the desired transactional payoff. All their allusions to ‘power’ are couched in apex fallacy and their lack of self control for alphas, this causes them to project their debilitation (particularly if unrequited) on to others as abuse. Effectively they experience neurotic anxiety and engage in denial to avoid shame and protect their ego and inter sexual status. Of course this occurs at… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
5 years ago

@keyser Soze “Last year, in 2013, a woman in her mid-20s says she had been on a few dates with Jian, but they never had sex. After they had been out of touch for weeks, she recalls Ghomeshi inviting her to his new house in Toronto’s Beach area because he “needed” to see her to discuss something important. When she arrived, she says Ghomeshi sat her down for an intimate conversation. She says he told her that she might be “the one” for him, that he “didn’t buy this big house to throw parties, but to raise a family.” He… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Mrs. Gamer has gone Eat, Pray, Love. Well, at least she’s going on a vacation to see her folks. Didn’t think I’d miss her, but I did when she drove off. Mrs. Gamer was doing chores while waiting for her ride and amusing me with her patter as she worked. She’s quite a girl.

I can’t sit here moping. If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with. Let’s get out there gentlemen. Adieu.

Mazrim
Mazrim
5 years ago

I’ve been studying the rise of Obama, and I see a disturbing parallel. Everybody remember Rev Wright, Obama’s anti-american pastor of 20 yrs? During this controversy in 2008 his people told him “choose a GOP, any of them, and label them RACIST. It doesn’t matter who, just pick one…they have to be terrified of ever coming at you” etc. Read about it on Conservipidia. Seems akin to the “be terrified of even approaching a woman” mindset indicated at the end of this post. Feminists, Liberals, Progressives, all one and the same

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

“He did not say goodbye”…

And no Egg McMuffin… That bastard…

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

How was the man table? Was at practice.

Ludiam0ndz
Ludiam0ndz
5 years ago

So, we’re approaching a tipping point where the FI will use the law to cement the af/bb dynamic as law? That’s actually fine by me tbh.

I think that ghomeshi, a self proclaimed sjw got off in Canada kinda bodes well for common sense. That feminists feel mad about it? So be it.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
5 years ago

@yareally.
That was her side of the story.
Put her on the witness stand- in court -(like the other three) and you’d hear a different story.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

” . . . no Egg McMuffin…”

Egg McMuffins are special.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@ Rugby “How was the man table?” The off the record round-table was excellent. Sun Wukong, Jeremy, Scribbler, Forge and myself. The recorded sessions might come off as long-winded, but Heh, at least Sun and Forge have great voices. Lol. Quite a virtual gang if you ask me. Lively discussion of Red Pill ideas. Definitely worth the price of admission. I was certainly out of my element having never gamed, watched any Star Wars and vaguely remembering what geeks were like back in high school in the seventies. But the excellent intellectualism and red-pill, male-only-space enthusiasm is evident in the… Read more »

Big-Al
Big-Al
5 years ago

Women cant send me to the cornfield when Im knee deep in high cotton.

They call you a chauvinist then fall for you.

Fried ice is a funny thing. Be that top 20% man and you write your own rules!

enrique
enrique
5 years ago

kfg, you’re solid dude, appreciate the updates. My assumption is, if you follow the co-evolutionary paradigm (the gazelle gets faster, followed by the cheetah getting faster): What was once a safe bastion of liberalism and a paycheck for LIberal White Male Manginas, with White Women soon to follow, is now itself coming under attack, which is EXACTLY where you’d expect this to go (see Hilary getting attacked by various BLM’ers and blacks). Eventually, once enough “power” (Fear) is gained by the underlings…they eventually go after the real master. Recall the last 30 years of hearing the rich white women qualifying… Read more »

Misanthropist
Misanthropist
5 years ago

As for the whole argument about whether women are as sexual as men, the truth is that many of our current problems such as rape hysteria and the rising number of false rape allegations can be traced back to our society’s inability to come to terms with the fact that women are more sexual than our society wishes to believe. A lot of changes in society such as the pill, legal abortion, reproductive technology, increased social tolerance and support for single motherhood, tougher measures in relation to pursuing child support, reduced economic dependence on individual men, more affirmative action and… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Text from the FEMEN page:

Sextremism, feminism, atheism.
Our god is Woman!
Our Mission is Protest!
Our weapons are Bare Breasts!

Wellll, I’m not buying the “atheism” part…

insanitybytes22
5 years ago

Be afraid, Tomassi, be very afraid. Just think of all women as Children of the Corn. Tell me, do men like you even have a logical side or is it all just melodrama and knee jerk emotionalism?

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@Insanitybytes

Really? That’s all you got? Can’t string a thought together. Just ad hominems?

Not this shit again.

@Misanthropist

I’m having a lot of trouble following what you are typing out.

In other words, what is your bias? What are you advocating?

Are you advocating for some top down magical approach to how things stand?

I just don’t get it.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago
Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago
SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Pot calling the kettle black

This is a phrase that states that the person you are talking to is calling you something that they themselves are (and generally in abundance).

This comes from old times when pots and pans were generally black and kettles were generally metallic and reflective. Therefore the pot sees its black reflection in the kettle and thinks that the kettle is black.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
5 years ago

Welcome back Insanitybytes (thanks Rollo)

I think Ghomeshi grew up watching this great movie.(he had a confusing game though)

This is for you Insanitybytes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4MLNqdUvVeIZEtPqpTC-ZDfATeVFD6Nx&v=MivNqkAvusU

Fred Flange, Weeknd Dood
Fred Flange, Weeknd Dood
5 years ago

The NBC news story cited in the Twitter section – “Vote Trump Get Dumped” – is the dumbest fucking thing I have seen in a long while, and I have been front row center for some howling political fuckups as I march into advanced middle-aged BeBe Bummer Deadhead Parrotdick. It’s going nowhere, just like Spike Lee’s “Chi-raq” went nowhere. Same idea, women pledge to withhold pussy to stop Chicagoland gangland shootings. Just like that old Greek play, which it unabashedly cites. No one saw it. Did any of you even hear of it? Besides, any cis-het man admitting to be… Read more »

Softek
Softek
5 years ago

Just got in another argument about the boyfriend/girlfriend thing. Solipsism / Hypergamy at its finest. She said that her wants/needs don’t matter to me at all, that I don’t care, etc., because I won’t commit to her. She claims she’s not guilt tripping me, but she is. Solipsism and Hypergamy make communication pretty much impossible. That’s the premise behind “Just Getting It.” They’ll beg and beg for you to communicate, to be open about everything — but in reality, they don’t want you to do that. And if you do you lose credibility and attraction, etc. They always talk about… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Just like that old Greek play, which it unabashedly cites. No one saw it. Did any of you even hear of it?

Like most educated people I’ve not only heard of Lysistrata I’ve read a translation of it. Aristophanes understood women.

Personally I prefer The Clouds.

Softek
Softek
5 years ago

On that note…. tl;dr version of Solipsism and Hypergamy is, domestically and legally: Men’s desires = bad Women’s desires = good Just based on gender. If you’re a woman, whatever you want in your relationships with men is completely justified. It doesn’t matter if you feel entitled to a man who will 100% monogamously commit to you for the rest of his life, if you feel entitled to cheat on said man, if you want a Beta cuck boyfriend while looking for Alpha cock on the side, if you want to lie, cheat, or whatever… …it’s all justified. Solipsism guarantees… Read more »

insanitybytes22
5 years ago

Susan George Sex Scene in “Straw Dogs” and you people think women are the Children of the Corn?! Anyone with a half a brain can recognize the stockholm syndrome going on in that scene.

Is that really want you morons want? Women so broken and confused, they don’t even know what they want anymore? Women all psychologically abused by your stupid dread games and you yourselves convinced that’s the only way you can get women to love you?

Why do I come here? Because I have to remind myself that people like you exist.

emilyy96
5 years ago

@KFG That goes for RP mothers, but not traditional mothers. RPW treat it as a job – they hate every moment of it – hence how Lee Lee thinks she’s stuck at home w her baby. Personally, I love kids. My cousin passed away two years back, she was only 23.., and she had a 1 year old who I took care of while my cousin was getting treatment and for some time after she passed. I was in first year of college then but I loved every moment with that precious girl and didn’t ever feel ‘stuck.’ Some women… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

The recorded sessions might come off as long-winded, but Heh, at least Sun and Forge have great voices. Lol.

Yeah, I’m gonna have to edit a bit, but I think I can make it work.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Emily: “That goes for RP mothers, but not traditional mothers.”

Yeah, very few traditional mothers in the Cumberland mountains before they had running water or electricity in their hillbilly shacks.

The Internet was a little slow though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

Jean Ritchie didn’t even hear a radio until she was older than you. Do you have any idea what the word “traditional” even means?

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
5 years ago

the article about avoiding women in the workplace is seems to be a pretty good MGTOW example for any women wanting to know what it is.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
5 years ago

@ Insanitybytes.
I didn’t upload the entire clip.
Have you seen the movie ?
Go fucking see watch it (without Mr bytes though).

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
5 years ago

SJF, I think Misanthropist is saying if we had a better understanding of women’s sexuality, and knew and accepted that women are more sexual than first thought, then they wouldn’t turn to false rape claims, and that in turn means there wouldn’t be the 1 in 4 myth agenda, when women act on their sexually desirous natures that still are such a mystery.
So society puts a guilt trip on them for being more sexual than expected. You get false rape claims.
At least that’s what I think he/she is saying.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
5 years ago

Poor Ghomeshi, he wasn’t even fucked by those three women. And those three women didn’t have to carry mattresses.
In 10 years Yareally is in trouble, game will be illegal.

Misanthropist
Misanthropist
5 years ago

@Water Cannon Boy That is kind of what I am saying. My point is not complicated. It is simply that false rape allegations are a significant problem as people are more willing to believe that women would not consent to sex in certain circumstances, when in fact they often do. That is, society has not caught up with how promiscuous unrestrained female sexuality can be. When you think about it, almost by definition false rape allegations can only be a significant problem in society if there is a gap between the prevailing views about women’s sexual nature and the circumstances… Read more »

Pinelero
Pinelero
5 years ago

@softek, yeah man it is tempting to try to use logic with a SO, and let her know you know of her hardwired nature. As you said, it will not get you anywhere. SO may not even be self-aware to understand her feelings as much as you do (i.e hypergamy and solipsism). Honestly, just stay single until she proves/qualifies herself to you. A horrible single woman just makes for an even more wretched wife.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Riposte practice: “@Forge <" @Forge the Sky As we discussed in the men only round table behind her back yesterday: She likes you and Rollo. I’m not up on text messaging symbolism or whatever that vagina symbol is she giving you. But please take your position of TRM ambassador to Emily seriously and convert her into a compliant commenter who actually reads red pill praxeology and plays well with others/men. “@Insanity Nice seeing you here” After Insanity sobers up from her Saturday night wine whine box and foul mood. And comes home from Sunday morning church and confession, maybe she… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@Misanthropist Your point is not complicated, but you are needlessly complicating it. To your point(s): it is explained by the common refrain of Rollo “For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own.” Go back and read Rollo’s quote from his Hysteria essay in the original post. Better yet go back and read the Hysteria essay that he linked to and give a comment in light of that, the fact that women’s strategy is winning more than you want it to. Treat the subject for what is, not what ought to be. Praxeology… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@Softek

Stay strong. And continue the Acta non Verba. And operate in your Frame.

You are still better at being a masculine male than you were last year.

Read or reread these articles for strength

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

http://illimitablemen.com/2014/03/09/how-women-argue/

and since there is a three link limit a third article, cut and paste this into google search and go to the article at ROK (The Battle To Maintain Frame Control):

the-essence-of-frame-control

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Softek “The irony is in women craving men who can’t be controlled. Still haven’t quite wrapped my head around that one. Some days I feel like I grasp it better than others. But as a freshly unplugged guy, it definitely does a number on you. Women’s solipsism and hypergamy is a real bitch to deal with.” You’re on a good path. Stay strong. Women, being and knowing they ARE uncrontrollable, likewise seek out the guy they can’t control, because HE can control HER. Now she may STILL fight this, but it IS what she really WANTS. When in doubt, up… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

edit type “uncrontrollable” to uncuntrollable…

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Keyser – “I fucking hate hate hate your face and all the lip stick you put on the pigs lips.”

LOL – and she changes her pic yet again (5th time?)… profile, hiding broad nose. Hilarious.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@Sun Wukong Great job on putting that together last night. I think it is a fantastic platform for male red-pill discussion. Keep it up. No one else here actually has the skills to pull something like that off. I sensed you were drained after doing all that, but your performance in discussions is simply excellent. Your life experiences and the way you relate them leave an impression on other men that lasts. http://www.themantable.net/pages/about-the-man-table.html Men can’t get everything they want socially and inter-personally in a declining society and this is a surrogate for in real life experiences. And that is not… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@ Softek

They’ll beg and beg for you to communicate, to be open about everything — but in reality, they don’t want you to do that.

It’s like poker. Girls want you to reveal the cards you’re holding. But no stripping, lol.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@ insanity

Women all psychologically abused by your stupid dread games

Blame God for Dread and Preselection. It’s in the Song of Solomon. https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/implied-soft-dread-in-the-song-of-solomon/

Seraph
Seraph
5 years ago

Great Post, Rollo. Struck home to me a little bit more because I grew up with a sibling who was a bit of a tyrant and hellion, and even lacking omnipotence, a self-absorbed person like makes one walk on eggshells just in an attempt to have a moment of peace. That of course implies that such a person is more rational than appears in pursuing their end game. I haven’t the time to read through the comments, but a quick note on this: “But it’s not enough to discourage men’s niceties, they must be taught to fear the attempt of… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@ Softek

Just got in another argument about the boyfriend/girlfriend thing.

Arguing with a woman is a Sisyphean task. Just lol every time she brings up commitment.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@Softek Setting aside for a moment her Epiphany Stage lack of respect for you, attempts at manipulating you, and wanting you for a long term provider for her, here is a cut-and-paste from Deida, Chapter 30 for you. (excuse the new agey romantic stuff, it is from 19 years ago, and times have changed. Lol): (apologies for the long winded-ness, I think it will help Softek) What She Wants Is Not What She Says Sometimes a woman will make a request of her man in plain English, not to get him to do something, but to see if he is… Read more »

Softek
Softek
5 years ago

@asd, Sentient, SJF Thanks for the input guys. What’s funny is she’s suspicious about my privacy habits. I set up my browser so it doesn’t record any of my web history and I also make sure I’m logged out of everything I do online if she’s going to be coming over. She questioned me about it last night. I did get a little too reactive, and she called me out on it. It’s getting harder to use Game because her Transition Phase is kicking in very hard, so passing things off lightly or comically results in her getting pissed off… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Gamer: “Blame God for Dread and Preselection. ”

One of the stronger hypotheses for the development of complex language is that it made gossip possible.

And what is gossip about? Dread and preselection.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“She questioned me about it last night.”

And the answer is, “Because you noticed.”

walawala
walawala
5 years ago

@softek “”Just got in another argument about the boyfriend/girlfriend thing. Solipsism / Hypergamy at its finest. She said that her wants/needs don’t matter to me at all, that I don’t care, etc., because I won’t commit to her.”” This is guilt-tripping. But, be aware, she’s emotional. You can’t get emotional. Either be calm and listen stone-faced and then hold her. Or exit the scene for a while until she calms down and starts calling you. Then if you decide to come back you have hand. THis is a mistake I made several times. I was always the one to make… Read more »

insanitybytes22
5 years ago

“One of the stronger hypotheses for the development of complex language is that it made gossip possible. And what is gossip about? Dread and preselection.” That is true. Ironic too, because the number one sin mentioned most in the bible is actually gossip, So what you really have with your false rape case is gossip. Dread and pre-selection is something women have learned from men, so those false charges are simply women copying your own game. What’s good for the gander is good for the goose, too. Men are horrified, outraged because what they are seeing is a reflection of… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“……has now been flipped over and the narrative rewritten.”

And look out how that is working out for masculinized women.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“Men are horrified, outraged because what they are seeing is a reflection of their own selves in female form.”

I, for one, am horrified and disgusted when I observe non-feminine women.

It makes them look like a man.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Humans gave the leopard its spots.

The leopard gave humans color vision and the intelligence to look up before walking under a tree.

They are reflections of each other.

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Softie – I think a “soft-next” is in order. Any women who interrogated me about my online habits or questions me about what I do in my own time will not have me around very long. It’s also important to draw boundaries indirectly with women and children. While you can’t escalate and soft-next over every little issue, it’s important to pick symbolic issues that communicate an overall theme and stick strongly. These become “reference experiences” for women so when you do the comic dismissals or the agree, amplify and change subject tactic they are queued on a sub-conscious level to… Read more »

Softek
Softek
5 years ago

@insanity The Bible also says that Eve’s punishment was that she will desire her husband, but he’ll rule over her. If you’re gonna play the Bible card, then God is the one that women learned dread and pre-selection from, not men. @ walawala Telling her that the time you spend together is what’s important, and that making her more insecure, sounds an awful lot like my situation. I’m thinking way ahead. Even if we could have a great relationship for say, 3 years, where will that leave me when it ends? If I commit to her and then make a… Read more »

Softek
Softek
5 years ago

@ scribblerg

Thanks for the input, just caught that after I posted my last comment. Never forgot that quote you shared all the time, that learning is defined as a permanent change in behavior.

Speaking of music:

walawala
walawala
5 years ago

@softek I wrote earlier that it is one year since I went hard next with my crazy ex. I did that for me. I too had a huge sense of loss until I got that space. Now I realize how far I’ve come since her. Byhe dread of loss keeps you from thinking clearly. The red pill mindset is one of forever forward and learning and appreciating that a woman’s true nature is something to be understood but can only be managed if you master your own fears.

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@All – Mantable was fun. It would be even better if more guys from here joined. Would love to hear from KFG, Sentient, HABD, Softie, Culum and many other regulars here. It’s a great time. And completely anonymous, no risk of doxxing. Join next time, it will make it even better. We do an unrecorded session first and then record so there is time to just yack with each other a bit first which at a certain point had me laughing so hard I couldn’t stop, like I lost control. That hasn’t happened to me for a while and just… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Softie – Wiz is good for sure, but just remember who invented the game…
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cxr1-b6Xkc&w=420&h=315%5D

Chris
Chris
5 years ago

“@Naka, the belief that women have a lower sex drive than men is a myth.” Er, no. It’s common biology. Men are endowed by our Maker with more testosterone, and that gives us the drive to create, procreate and annihilate when we’re called upon to do those things. Are there some exceptions? As an asexual, yes, I’d say that a good number of women are hornier than me. But the women who insist on parroting the claim that their gender are as collectively lustful as men are usually the ones who are suffering from chronic cases of Penis Envy –… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Chris – Hi. Serious question. If you had a choice to not be asexual, would you take it? If there was a way you could learn to get what you wanted out of women sexually, without putting them on a pedestal or being a pussy beggar, would you be interested? If I told you that two years from now you could be regularly be fucking hot women with no unnecessary drama in your life, would you be interested taking a course of action that would get you there? Are you happy as an asexual? Do you think that is healthy… Read more »

Naka
Naka
5 years ago

@ Rollo, thank you for the link (women & sex) but I already read it. You say women have a weaker sex drive because they have less testosterone. However, one could say they have a more pleasurable & powerful orgasm so they love sex more than men…how could they have a weaker sex drive and like sex more? What do you think?

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

@scrib

@SunWuKong (an aspiring Top and denizen of queensnake.com)

comment image

… goddamn you.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“…how could they have a weaker sex drive and like sex more?”

By not being men.

Women do not get to look like this without taking test:

http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/282735576.jpg

That’s legendary Joan Lauth. Go talk to her about sex drive.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Women, being and knowing they ARE uncrontrollable, likewise seek out the guy they can’t control, because HE can control HER. Now she may STILL fight this, but it IS what she really WANTS.

Oh yeah, baby! Mrs. Gamer will shit test the hell out of me as soon as I show an iota of weakness. Very subtly, too, lol. I was hit by a barrage of shit tests just for wondering to Mrs. Gamer why some other women were ignoring me.

I figured out the answer to my question independently of Mrs. Gamer, btw.

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Sun – Look, you are already great at attracting gay men. Just close your eyes and think of Emily…It will be just as good and certainly tighter. As for queensnake.com, look, I’m not here to judge what gets you through a lonely saturday night when the whole gay pickup thing doesn’t work out. I mean, it’s a little much for me but the women there look like they are having a great time. To each his own.

Roy Hobbs
Roy Hobbs
5 years ago

Holy crap!

I just looked at queensnake… I don’t think my eyes will ever unsee that-

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Roy – Blame YaReally, until he posted it here yesterday while we were on the Mantable, I didn’t even know this existed. He did give a warning, so perhaps I should have. But it, and Sun’s uncanny ability to attract gay men and excellent skills at mimicking a flaming gay man were the source of a lot of idiocy/humor/man-fuckery yesterday.

Warning: Visit QueenSnake at your own peril, NSFW and without small children around. Or anyone the least bit queezy, civilized, traditional, not perverted etc…

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

@scrib

Visit QueenSnake at your own peril, NSFW

It’s just not safe. Period. shudder

There is treatment for exposure but no cure.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

It’s brain herpes.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

You know, I’m really starting to suspect I should flip the format of what’s recorded. The funny shit should be recorded and the actual discussion should be off the record.

Hmmm…

Roy Hobbs
Roy Hobbs
5 years ago

Imagine the FR accidentally trying to pu a queensnake girl…

“Hey… Saw you wink at me when you were sitting on the barstool”
“Sorry- I was wincing… Some bruises on my ass from last weekend.”
“Mountain biking or something?”
“No- I had my labia stapled to a board and my asshole tazered all while getting bull hipped across my nipples.”
“Uh…. * ”
“Think you could handle that…”
“Me? Not so much… But my friend YaReally might be interested!”

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Roy – No, the way it goes is like this. AFC: “Uhh, ermm, hi. My name is Chodey. Chodey Chodester. What’s your’s?” AFC extends hand to QueenSnake girl meekly. QueenSnake Girl: “Why do losers like you thing girls just come here to get picked up?” Glares at extended hand with disgust. “Pffft.” AFC: Furiously wracking his brain for pickup lines, he randomly recalls a line that asshole ScribblerG from TRM said he used when he was younger: “So what color are your nipples?” He immediately realizes he’s fucked it up as Scribbler actually would ask, “Pink or Brown” querously and… Read more »

Roy Hobbs
Roy Hobbs
5 years ago

Hahaha- well done!

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

“You know, I’m really starting to suspect I should flip the format of what’s recorded. The funny shit should be recorded and the actual discussion should be off the record.”

“Woo roundtable starting!”

http://realawkwardmoments.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/crazy-party.png

“OK, I guess we should start recording guys.”

http://www.mddus.com/media/1769/roundtable1.jpg

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

Lol, just fucking with y’all. I think it should be a good listen.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

@Scribb

Word. We should start a mini-series – Adventures of an AFC.

AFC needs a name. He’ll be the counterpoint to Chad Thundercock.

‘Coming next week – Milton Mildress Compliments a Coworker!’

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

OK, finally caught up here so sorry for the comment wall, a few things.

@Jeremy

Could you expand a bit on what you mean by male stoicism being the start of a ‘counter’ to concealed ovulation? I’ve not heard that concept before. Not entirely sure what you mean by male stoicism.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

Re: female sex drive – I think we’re just gonna talk in circles about this until we get two things straight. The first is straightforward, the second complex and thereby interesting. 1. Are we saying that women have sex drives stronger than society generally believes or that their sex drives are comparable to a man’s? Seems like most people mean the former. 2. We have to understand that there are multiple ‘moving parts’ that go into the sexual response. There’s the biological urge that boils in the background irrespective of prospects, there’s sexual signaling that indicates receptivity, there’s the emotions… Read more »

insanitybytes22
5 years ago

“For Inanity to choose last night to unleash her bilious rage at us reveals all we need to know about her and her “faith””

LOL! Now that’s funny. I take it you’ve never seen bilious rage? The best I can muster is a twinge of despair over how lost and broken you all are.

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Forge – A good summary I think. But let’s be clear, as Rollo notes, the motivation of the White Knight/AFC/Blue Piller in asserting that women’s sex drive is higher than men’s is to claim that the repression of women is a core problem. Such people miss that male sexual agency is shamed and severely repressed all the time too, just in different ways. Note that Misanthrope’s angle is to claim that false rape accusations are a consequence of society’s repression and shaming of female sexual desires, lol, and that this causes them shame and regret after the fact to the… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

@Forge

“Woo roundtable starting!”

It’s funny because it’s true. Funnier still that it’s my own damn fault.

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
5 years ago

Misanthropist, if false claims were being brought up by other people on behalf of the women themselves, you might have something. But they’re not. The women are doing out of spite, out of saving a reputation, out of financial gains, even out of having the “being shallow” game turned on him. As in the proposed bill to make saying you have more money or status than you really do leading to a one nighter being considered rape. These are conscious decisions. Women want to be free of consequences, always have a scapegoat, and don’t want anything to make them or… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Or even simply to get attention, as in the case when they come out of the woodwork after decades to accuse a celebrity.

stuffinbox
5 years ago

The hillbilly POV A man carries his sex organs on the outside and is taught,don’t let your dick do your thinking for you. A woman carries her sex organs internally,thereby she is a sex organ and learns not to let on what she is thinking. Interesting feature is that girls mature fully 2 to 3yrs before boys,and make their first attempts to express their sexuality on boys that have no clue what is happening or how to reciprocate. This is when they [women] begin to master the art of covert communication. Therefore the Hillbilly theory is that women experience rejection… Read more »

Misanthropist
Misanthropist
5 years ago

“Note that Misanthrope’s angle is to claim that false rape accusations are a consequence of society’s repression and shaming of female sexual desires, lol,” Now you are just making shit up and attributing it to me. You are still smarting that I knocked your talking points out of the park before, and you are obviously going to hold a grudge. I have never said that society shames or represses female sexuality. The belief that women need sex less than men do is only maintained because White Knight/Blue Pill men prefer to continue to believe women are less carnal and more… Read more »

stuffinbox
5 years ago

As for weather one sex experiences more pleasure than another like Rollo said it is experiential and not quantitative.

The amount of pleasure or arousal of either sex is predetermined by the level of anticipation or foreplay,enter game and passive dread dhv etc.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
5 years ago

@sun

Dude, I think you’re doing great. The thing needs some discipline, listening to a bunch of dudes dick around for 2 hours ain’t gonna draw crowds.

stuffinbox
5 years ago

Women aren’t compelled to make false rape allegations,rather they are learning to play with a new toy[the media]and pushing it to its extremes.
The only upside is that the law is a tool built by men and is not easily broken by a toy…
The downside is that men become smashed between the wild machinations of the toy and the unwielding nature of the tool.

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