Children and Cornfields

Does anyone remember the episode of the Twilight Zone called “It’s a Good Life“? I rewatched this for this article and I’ve got to stay it still holds up and it’s just as creepy as when I watched it as a kid.

Six-year-old Anthony Fremont looks like any other little boy, but looks can be deceiving: he is a monster, a mutant with godlike mental powers, including mind-reading. Years before, he isolated his town of Peaksville, Ohio. Everybody is under his rule, even his parents. Since he’s begun isolating the town, supplies of common household items, such as bar soap, have been dwindling. He has blocked television signals, caused cars to not work, and, due to his controlling everything, he does not attend school.

The children and adults, including his own parents, tiptoe nervously around him, constantly telling him how everything he does is “good,” since displeasing him can get them wished away into a mystical “cornfield”, an unknown place, from which there is no return. At one point, a dog is heard barking angrily. Anthony thinks the dog is “bad” and doesn’t “like [him] at all,” and wishes it into the cornfield. His father and mother are horrified, but they dare not show it.

One night, due to the townsfolk having always done what he wants, he treats them to one hour of TV. Although they do not like what he shows, they tell Anthony that it was far better than what used to be on TV.

Finally, at Dan Hollins’ birthday party, he gets two presents from his wife: a bottle of brandy and a Perry Como record. As Dan is eager to listen to the record, he is reminded by everyone that Anthony does not like singing. Getting slightly drunk from the brandy, complaining about not listening to the record, and no one singing “Happy Birthday” to him, Dan cannot take the strain anymore and confronts Anthony, calling him a monster and a murderer. While Anthony’s anger grows, Dan yells for someone to attack Anthony from behind and end his reign of terror. Aunt Amy (who isn’t able to sing anymore because of Anthony) tentatively reaches for a fireplace poker, but no one has the courage to act. Anthony cries out to Dan, “You’re a bad man! You’re a very bad man! And you keep thinking bad thoughts about me!” Dan is transformed into a jack-in-the-box (ending his life), causing his wife to break down. The adults are horrified at what Anthony had done, and his father begs him to wish it into the cornfield, which he does.

Because of Amy’s earlier complaints about the heat, Anthony causes snow to begin falling outside. His father observes that the snow will kill off at least half the crops, and he is about to confront Anthony about this, but his wife and the other adults look on with worried smiles on their faces. The father then smiles and tells Anthony in a horror-tinged voice, “…But it’s good you’re making it snow. A real good thing. And tomorrow… tomorrow’s gonna be a… real ‘good’ day!”

I didn’t really understand the significance of this episode until recently. In a sense I guess I can attribute it to a more defined Red Pill Lens but the femosphere events and a few articles brought to my attention this last week reminded me of this Twilight Zone story. I’ll get to why in a bit.

The first event was the highly publicized not guilty verdict in the Jian Gomeshi rape (hoax) trial. Mike Cernovich had a quick hit post about the details here. I’ve written about the particulars of why women’s insecurity about optimizing Hypergamy drives them to insane lengths to control for it before, but my focus this time with Gomeshi wasn’t so much about the women’s lying, or the ambiguity of what constitutes rape or sexual harassment. When the Rolling Stone/UVA fraternity rape hoax was finally revealed for what it was I wrote Hysteria :

Transferring information about a man’s preselected approval amongst a collective of women is one such override. However, it’s very important for men living in a feminine-primary social order to understand that social proof is not just limited to preselection of men as potential partners.

This social proof dynamic extends to the perceptions of women in a collective peer group, as well as men for whom they have no sexual interest in, but serve their material interests nonetheless.

The current cultural atmosphere of male suspicion and autonomous rape-threat assessment of men is another variation of this perceptual, hysterical, collective belief dynamic. Women want to believe in the presumption that every man outside of their preselected, collective approved, hypergamous ideal  is a potential rape threat. In other words, a man who might, by force or coercion, assume control of her hypergamous sexual selection.

The narrative, the perception, is all that matters.

[…]women become so ego-invested in the certainty of their collective perceptions that, even in light of contrary evidence, the only acknowledged verification of that perception is how it makes them feel.

This contradiction of a collective feminine hysteria is what many luminaries of the Feminine Imperative are now being forced to confront. It’s important to remember during this UVa / Rolling Stone rape debacle that women, and more than a few enabling male sympathizers, wanted to believe this travesty was true in spite of the vaudevillian outlandishments and still refuse to accept that it isn’t.

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The overwhelming zeitgeist consensus in this case was that the women concerned in Gomeshi’s rape trial were to be believed irrespective of facts that exonerated him. And so strong was this sentiment that suggesting the suspension of the most fundamental aspects of law was the first recourse to be considered – that consideration is to change the presumption of guilt where it affects the accusations of men by women.

Once again, just as in the UVA rape hoax, we see a feminine-primary collective social consciousness moved by a need to believe in order to maintain a collective ego-investment in that social order’s correctness. And all of that in spite of all controverting, unignorable evidence. However, the feminine conditioned reflex for feminine defined ‘justice’ in this regard has been taken a step further – an accusation of rape or sexual assault is as good as a conviction.

I can’t be too sympathetic for Gomeshi. He built his reputation on being a social justice warrior and a self-evincing ‘male feminist, but just like another notable male feminist, Hugo Schwyzer, he’s had to learn the hard way that feminist Game comes with a substantial risk.

However the salient point I took away from his trial wasn’t that women are duplicitous or a feminized society being too ready to unquestioningly presume the veracity of another woman’s rape claims. Neither was it unexpected that a need to believe that presumed guilt would come up. What struck me was the push for control, for absolute unilateral arbitrative power to condemn a man for the accusation of sexual misconduct.

What struck me was that the Feminine Imperative should seek to nakedly place itself above a rule of law that is otherwise founded on a logical, rational process of checks and balances (or at least intends to do so).

As the protests and debate swirled around Gomeshi I was also made aware of a review of a new book Girls & Sex: Navigating the Complicated New Landscape

An economics major taking a gender studies class is getting dressed in her college dorm room for a night out, cheerfully discussing sexual stereotyping in advertising with Orenstein — while at the same time grabbing a miniskirt and a bottle of vodka, the better to achieve her evening goal: to “get really drunk and make out with someone.” “You look hot,” her friend tells her — and the student, apparently registering the oddness of the scene, turns to Orenstein. “In my gender class I’m all, ‘That damned patriarchy,’ ” she says. “But . . . what’s the point of a night if you aren’t getting attention from guys?” Her ambition, she explains, “is to be just slutty enough, where you’re not a prude but you’re not a whore. . . . Finding that balance is every college girl’s dream, you know what I mean?”

Author Peggy Orenstien serves up the same reheated feminist alarmism for her young daughter that Hannah Rosin did 8 years ago. However, Orenstien escalates the narrative much in the same vein that the feminist reaction to Gomeshi has. She defines it for us:

For guys, she says, there is fun and pleasure; for girls (at least the straight ones), too little physical joy, too much regret and a general sense that the boys are in charge. Fully half the girls in Orenstein’s book say they’ve been coerced into sex, and many had been raped — among them, by the way, that econ major, who was so confused that when her assailant dropped her off the next morning, she told him, “Thanks, I had fun.” The sexual playing field Orenstein describes is so tilted no girl could win.

Orenstein presumes the control of a girl with a handle of vodka and dressed ‘just slutty enough’ rest entirely with the boys she’s making out with and more. They are ‘assailants’ by definition – a definition that depends on the Hypergamous whims of the woman involved.

I drew parallels between these stories because they are indicative of a trend I predicted a couple years ago – in a social order that prioritizes Hypergamy as the intersexual priority, men who wont cooperate with it must be legislated into complying with it. But as it develops now this doesn’t go far enough; men must be preemptively convicted of the crime of sexual misconduct before the they are ever judged worthy of a woman’s sexual interests. In other words, men are ‘assailants’ for the very attempt of presenting themselves for the intimate approval of women.

Monday’s Price of Nice post and the femosphere response to men’s want to be Nice in order to ingratiate themselves in the hopes that they might endear a woman to him highlights this even further. Men being ‘nice’ are by definition ‘assailants’.

But it’s not enough to discourage men’s niceties, they must be taught to fear the attempt of initiating anything looking like intimacy. They must fear being whisked away to the cornfield for not thinking the right way about the women they would hope to find favor with.

Commenter SJF had a poignant comment this week:

Infantile as they are, women are ill-equipped to handle power, and that which is born out of the insecurity that a man may do her wrong, turns into an exploitative, predatory misuse of power that fuels grandiose narcissism, and thus masculinizes her. The aforementioned relationships between the different aspects of the female psyche do not explain in it in its entirety, but nonetheless, should accurately depict its root and core.

Which brings us back to our six year old Anthony Fremont in the Twilight Zone episode. On a social scale we are rapidly approaching a time where coddling the childish impulsivity of women will dictate not just the rule of law for men, but will define the nature of men’s dealing with women on a fear based level. In fact we’re already beginning to see this in the workplace.

Taken to its intended and illogical extreme, given unilateral God-like arbitration of men in every aspect of society, politics, religion, academia, etc., women and their imperatives would define intersexual relations much in the same way as Anthony does with the ‘adults’ he controls.

 

 

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Ciacorps
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Excellent post, Rollo!! Couldn’t agree more.

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theasdgamer
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Will the fear extend to men being afraid to speak out against cuckolding? Will cuckolding become a rite in churchianity?

Jeremy
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I’m trying to hard to imagine the converse, where “men are given unilateral God-like arbitration of women in every aspect of society, politics, religion, academia, etc…” Where “men and their imperatives would define intersexual relations much in the same way as Anthony does with the ‘adults’ he controls.”

I think it would be something like being some Arab/Muslim king back when sexual slavery was routine.

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Dutchman

Whenever i think about the future of artificial intelligence, I think of this episode of the twilight zone.

kfg
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kfg

” . . . given unilateral God-like arbitration of men in every aspect of society, politics, religion, academia, etc., women and their imperatives would define intersexual relations much in the same way as Anthony does with the ‘adults’ he controls.”

That’s why God invented blue water sailboats, and I’m not afraid to use them.

SJF
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@ Rollo

“Commenter SJF had a poignant comment this week:”

Please correct that to say SJF quoted (your alter-ego across the pond) The Illimitable Man in one of his comments from this essay:

http://illimitablemen.com/2016/03/16/understanding-female-psychology/

That paragraph is way more erudite than my literary pay grade.

Adam
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“… Taken to its intended and illogical extreme, given unilateral God-like arbitration of men in every aspect of society, politics, religion, academia, etc., women and their imperatives would define intersexual relations much in the same way as Anthony does with the ‘adults’ he controls …” Once Anthony had taken control it was almost impossible to stop him. Everyone was so invested in saving their own skin and not bringing attention to themselves that they were not able to act in their own interests, even when Anthony’s action of causing it to snow doomed some of them to die by starvation.… Read more »

LeeLee
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When I had my first kid and I was stuck at home with her all day while she slept, I used to follow a popular feminist website and comment on their stuff, hoping that my impassioned explanations of the Biblical view of gender and marriage would save their souls. Success was not mine, but I did pick up on some pretty weird stuff. Like how they kept pushing for colleges to take on a criminal justice role when a student accused another of rape. WHY? Why did they want that? What was, (or is, as this remains a demand to… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“So why do feminists want colleges to go where only the police should go . . . ”

Because the police are constrained by law.

enrique
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enrique

Is that Will Robinson?

enrique
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enrique

Rollo,by the way, your take on Gomeshi is exactly why I feel zero sympathy for the Greek-American dude that got thrashed by the “brown millennial” at Yale. People were posting shit like, “I kinda feel sorry for the guy” mainly because he seemed to be reasonable in the face of hatred and (yes) racism…Zero fucks and all that. That guy supported ALL that shit on campuses until he was hoisted on his on petard. He probably constructively drowned hundreds of men, if not thousands indirectly, via his own White Knightedry and Social Justice creepery. It’s like these people never read… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“Is that Will Robinson?”

Bill Mumy – yes.

“That guy supported ALL that shit on campuses until he was hoisted on his on petard.”

Social Justice revolutions always, always, always eat their own children – but they never seem to catch on.

Not Born This Morning
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Curiously, and honestly I’m not sure exactly why, this post brings to mind my knowledge of Katherine Ann Porter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Anne_Porter My first knowledge of Porter was an abbreviation of one of her quotes “Love must be learned over and over, hate only needs to be provoked”. Here is a link to the full quote http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1157388 I was so impressed with this quote when I first saw it in my early twenties that it is the only reason I remembered her name. At the time, I considered her quote brilliant and wise and believed she must have been someone who truly… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
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Yollo Comanche

Sometimes there is so much I want to say on this blog but I don’t do it because I know I’ll look retarded for it.

That said, I’ve only ever really felt disgust from other people when I told them what I was actually thinking.

I think cornfields are beautiful.

Ophir
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Ophir

Meanwhile, Alanis spouts another open hypergamy gem: It may help to divide your dating life into three categories: 1) flings (this requires staving off the bonding that happens with oxytocin, so be careful); 2) boyfriends (these can last anywhere from two to three years, and the breakups are not the most fun); and 3) husband or long-term-commitment material. Number three is for when you are ready for the deep dive; and perhaps for when you are ready for children I have had some serious fun in the first two categories. And the third has been a huge payoff, maybe because I enjoyed… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
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Yollo Comanche

@Not born this morning

But what is “love” if not merely guessing right?

Don’t people hate what they cannot control?

What did she hate? What was her foolishness?

Why did our society reward her for her foolishness?

Where do people like her come from?

One quick look and she echoes a lot of my own thoughts.

I wonder if her family told her she was beautiful too.

She looks like a real cunt.

blogster
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blogster

Troubling is that these cases are becoming more and more frequent in occurence. I’m in Australia and we have had 3 cases recently of high profile sportsmen essentially being subject to extortion attempts. Two from disgruntled ex’s, who both it was revealed had a history of blackmail, along with a situation where a woman was dropped off in a taxi by the person in question AT her boyfriend’s house (only for the taxi camera to show nothing like she claimed happened) Women know there will be no consequences (in the UK there is at least a reasonable chance of jail… Read more »

enrique
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enrique

That pic of the fat chick with the bowl haircut getting “escorted” away by the cops, is simply priceless. I’m not creative enough to do good captions but it is worthy of continual memes.

Sun Wukong
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@kfg Social Justice revolutions always, always, always eat their own children – but they never seem to catch on. Abso-fucking-lutely. I’ve had a lot of thoughts about how dudes that come out as feminists and the like are the first dudes to get stabbed by these harpies right in the back. The moment you’re no longer a part of their victim classes, you will become a target even if you’re an ally. I suspect it’s part of the reason my friend living in the NYC hugbox decided he needed a different “gender identity”. He was about to fall out of… Read more »

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scribblerg

I often wonder why it is that women struggle with playing fair in any endeavor. Could it be that men have had to adapt fairness and ethics in order to cooperate constructively in larger groups, in high stakes undertakings? Example: Hunting the Woolly Mammoth takes a group of men who coordinate and take their roles seriously or the hunt may not be successful. Or in trade, high trust results in more productivity for everyone so keeping one’s word is valuable beyond any single transaction. Could it be that since for most of history women weren’t engaged in these high stakes… Read more »

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walawala

Borderline Personality Disorder and Cluster B traits are more common than acknowledged and often people close to these types of girls enable the behavior by rationalizing it. “He deserved it because all guys are like that..” “it sends a strong message out to all men….” that sort of thing. I’ve had two stalkers and it took all I could manage to break free from the urge to engage. I just celebrated the one year no contact with my crazy ex who had a large number of Cluster B traits and who broke up, cheated but at the same time was… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“Could it be that men have had to adapt fairness and ethics in order to cooperate constructively in larger groups, in high stakes undertakings?” Yes. In fact, I take that as my working hypothesis for male social interaction. It is what both the archaeological and anthropological evidence tends to support strongly. Not only that, but it makes a damned lot of sense. “Hunting the Woolly Mammoth takes a group of men who coordinate and take their roles seriously or the hunt may not be successful.” Worse than that, the hunt may be tragic, putting the tribe down a man through… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

Addendum:

There is some debate over where the term “right hand man” comes from, but it’s always seemed intuitively obvious to me that it comes from fighting in a phalanx, where the shield of the man to your right is what protects your exposed side.

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keyser Soze

Jian Ghomeshi used the persona(game) of “nice guy” / feminist supporter to get women, and when they ended up in his bedroom , he flipped into a dominant alpha, that caused those women to be turned off (and disgusted). These pussies knew he was no dominant and there was no tingles (though he fucked some beautiful 9s)
Tingles , tingle with the first impression (just ask Emily).

Ps: “Hell hath no fury like an Ugly woman scorned”

SJF
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@ScribblerG “….and SJF (via his Illimitable man cite) attributes it a woman’s preemptive strike based on her fear of male power but I’m just not convinced by these arguments. I notice that women always fail when the stakes go up in any activity. When survival is on the line (the highest of stakes) women are next to useless, at least in my experiences where life and limb were on the line and women were present. And they of course reserve the right to go back on any agreement at any time….” Old times vs. new times. Women were never designed… Read more »

rugby11
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rugby11

Pain and attachment
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hJoPNBEdduk
Women and children first…

SD
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SD

“Which brings us back to our six year old Anthony Fremont in the Twilight Zone episode. On a social scale we are rapidly approaching a time where coddling the childish impulsivity of women will dictate not just the rule of law for men, but will define the nature of men’s dealing with women on a fear based level. In fact we’re already beginning to see this in the workplace.” Unless you’re a high SMV male with obvious game.This will sound like graduate level humblebragging, but I live this fact daily at the office. I crack jokes as a natural part… Read more »

Sun Wukong
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@SD Wound up tonight at my local bar (just a place to build social connections; the women aren’t worth a shit) snubbing two women that try every time they see me to push FI agenda on me. They constantly try to act like they’ve got some kind of leverage (because feminism) on me, but I pretty much laugh and shrug all their anger off. Had one demand (after she had been straight up bitchy) for me to call her by her name instead of “bitch” after some fairly cunty behavior on her part. Told her “If you’re going to try… Read more »

IAS
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IAS

If I ever get divorced, learn game and start having sex with other women, I really need to learn how to protect myself against false rape accusations.

Possibly I should learn that before starting to have sex with other women.

I think RSD even has some material specifically about that.

Sun Wukong
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@IAS

The 21st century called with one word: “Cameras”.

Naka
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Naka

Hey Rollo. You say in the Rational Male that women’s sex drive is weaker than men’s. But they have a much more powerful and pleasurable orgasm so is it safe to assume they like sex as much as/more than men? What do you think?

IAS
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IAS

@Sun: not sure if admissible in court, and certainly “still guilty” even if proven innocent. Better to have specific game strategies to protect it from happening in the first place. But cameras are good. And as a bonus you can watch it later to improve your technique I guess?

kfg
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kfg

” . . . not sure if admissible in court . . . ”

Which is why the security camera industry has been a complete flop.

Misanthropist
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Misanthropist

@Naka, the belief that women have a lower sex drive than men is a myth. But it is something so deeply ingrained in our culture, that it takes some effort to deprogram from that type of thinking (indeed, until I really swallowed the Red Pill I too believed that women have less need for sex than men do). For most of human history people believed that women were more sexual than men. As with most things, people in the past were usually wiser than today. Our society is probably the most naive and deluded on most things compared to the… Read more »

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What struck me was that the Feminine Imperative should seek to nakedly place itself above a rule of law that is otherwise founded on a logical, rational process of checks and balances (or at least intends to do so). . I’d suggest this is incorrectly attributed: if I understand correctly, the FI is a subconscious biological process manifesting in general amongst females. While the FI may influence feminists I’d say the feminist identity is the preeminent rational construct in play. . In that light, identity groups have been very successful in modifying civil codes to include non-causal, thus non-evidentiary, terms.… Read more »

Misanthropist
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Misanthropist

What is striking about all this is that men are afraid of being labelled sexist or misogynistic if they dare to think or express any critical views about women. Yet women are allowed, nay encouraged to, think the absolute worst about men in every situation. What so many groups want nowadays is the right to judge and condemn others, but to never be judged themselves or forced to accept responsibility for anything. Women can judge and condemn men, but men are not allowed to cast the slightest aspersions on women’s character. Or to put it in terms of script analysis,… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Keyser – I also had the same suspicion that could it be Gomeshi’s Betaness aroused this buyer’s remorse? But then I couldn’t factor that in his dominant sexual behavior. I wonder, are Pajama Boys really choking women and dominating them physically? He’s got the cool, sultry, progressive kind of good looks that some women find attractive but also presents himself in such a hardcore SJW/Blue Pill way it would seem axiomatically beta. Perhaps is a Beta with a side of Alpha in the sack, and this causes the buyer’s remorse?

Anyone else here have a thought on this aspect?

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Misanthrope – So all those studies showing how men think about sex far more frequently than women are just nonsense? What about the fact that men can become aroused in a matter of seconds whereas the process takes much longer for women? Using the term sex drive is a bit misleading in that I think it’s true that men don’t understand women have a dualistic mating strategy (one of the major topics of this blog, fyi) which includes a purely lust driven strategy, based solely on good acquiring good genes for reproduction. You are correct that many men cannot face… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
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Yollo Comanche

@Misanthropist. It’s not about whether women like sex. It’s all about the context of female sexuality, along with the hard scientific fact that women go into different stages of sexual receptiveness as they menstruate. I hear PUAs talk all the time about how women are JUST AS sexual as men. I used to think it was a misleading marketing tactic, but maybe they really were all just stupid as hell before 2010. Read it and weep, they are NOT as sexual. Their mind is just such that they are far more likely to buy useless shit with the right pitch.… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@SJF – Well said, and i think that part of honor is one’s word, keeping it and actually understanding the value of it. One’s word is (or was) currency among men. And of course, I was speaking from what I internalized from Jack Donovan’s and other’s work. How do you weigh that view against Rollo’s assessment that Gomeshi’s trial and the rabid SJW/RadFem reaction to it is more a collective attempt to push forward the options of female sexual agency and to frame male sexual agency to women’s advantage? I like the argument intellectually, in that it looks like an… Read more »

qsajaq
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That’s interesting. Because men can overpower women on the whole, it is a woman’s brain that is rooted in a mortal fear of men. All their behaviours and rationalizations, indeed even cognitive frameworks, are rooted in a mortal fear of men. So interesting that now we are being trained to fear women.

Yollo Comanche
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Yollo Comanche

@Scribblerg

Hey I read Donovan’s book. If there’s a punch-line, I’d say it’s that he wants me to read his other book to better understand the book I bought.
I’ll figure out the punch-line dammit.

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Yollo – LMFAO, talk about a long running gambit. The punch line is that Jack Donovan is gay. Yet he’s a very masculine man in his own way. Most guys are shocked to find this out. As for him being inscrutable, I’m not sure I see it that way. I actually don’t think he’s a good writer in that there seems more to what he’s saying than there actually is. Don’t get me wrong, what he has to say is crucial but he’s a guy who should stick to video blogging or essays. The book itself was not well constructed… Read more »

Stingray
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The sexual playing field Orenstein describes is so tilted no girl could win.

This. This is what it is all about. Power and winning.

SJF
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SJF

@ScribblerG Imagine you are a child of 16 years old. Were you not sneaky and try to bend the rules of those in authority? When I was that age I went on a study tour for us German students at a Jesuit high school. We spent 4 days in London initially and were free to roam with food vouchers when we weren’t touring the sites in a group with guides. On the last day there we had a bunch of food vouchers stored up and went to a steak and ale pub for lunch (and then again for dinner). The… Read more »

Misanthropist
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Misanthropist

“So all those studies showing how men think about sex far more frequently than women are just nonsense?” Who says they are nonsense? That may well be true. But you have to consider what they are measuring. As I said, men are more preoccupied with sex because sex is harder to come by for men than it is for women. Not because of a greater innate biological need for sex. I suppose you could do a study showing that a starving man thinks about food a lot more often than someone with access to sufficient food. Does that prove he… Read more »

SJF
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SJF

@ScribblerG “The punch line is that Jack Donovan is gay. Yet he’s a very masculine man in his own way. Most guys are shocked to find this out.” I knew that before I read the book. I was not miffed. It didn’t make any difference at all. Just like race doesn’t matter when judging the content of one’s character his message is for the masculine imperative. “I actually don’t think he’s a good writer in that there seems more to what he’s saying than there actually is.” Some of us didn’t get the memo on what masculinity was when growing… Read more »

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“the suspension of the most fundamental aspects of law was the first recourse to be considered – that consideration is to change the presumption of guilt where it affects the accusations of men by women.” Due to “Enough is Enough” policy recently enacted on SUNY campuses, https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-suny-adopts-comprehensive-system-wide-uniform-sexual-assault-policy# this is already occurring in pockets of society. A similar policy is in place on California state campuses. From the policy: “(a right to)Be free from any suggestion that the victim/survivor is at fault when these crimes and violations are committed, or should have acted in a different manner to avoid such a… Read more »

SJF
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SJF

@Misanthropist

I take it you haven’t read the class material yet?

http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/04/women-sex/

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@SJF – Misanthropist is a pseudonym for scroll wheel…Nothing to see here. Listen to his response to me, pure troll. Can’t defend a fucking thing he says, moves the goalposts, substitutes snark for reason and then declares victory. I’ll give you 10:1 odds he spends a lot of time playing video games.

ace
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ace

Misanthropist

March 26th, 2016 at 4:59
“the belief that women have a lower sex drive than men is a myth.”

Not at all a myth…simple fact. Mens drive is constantly high (high in comparison to women) womens drive is much more dyamic – high highs, low lows and everything in between. Maybe your view is skewed because you’re meeting them only/primarily when they’re uber horny?

If women had a sex drive comparable to men we as a species would have died out a long time ago. We wouldn’t be doing much more than fucking. Literally fucking ourselves to death.

Jordan Awlings
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Jordan Awlings

interesting point about the UK article. In Ontario, there are “sexual harassment” and sexual violence program legislated all over the work abd private sphere. Check this link:

https://news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2015/10/ontario-strengthening-laws-to-stop-sexual-violence-and-harassment.html

ace
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ace

Misanthropist

March 26th, 2016 at 7:20 am

“I guess that’s why socially awkward men spend so much time wanking off to porn in front of their computers all day.”

Porn and wanking off to it is an activity which almost all men are engaging in today, not only “socially awkward men”. Blue balls is a condition most men, awkward or not, are afflicted by. Guess why?

Roy
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Roy

Is it better to be loved or feared? Can you trully “love” what you fear?

Jeremy
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There are physical reasons, probably derivable down to energy conservation, why men are more horny than women. 1) Human estrus is more chemical-energy costly than producing sperm 2) Because estrus is energy intensive, it is biologically taxing (perhaps mortally so) for this process to be occurring very often in a body. 3) Because of this, estrus has to be cyclical, not persistent. 4) Because Estrus is cyclical, human procreation is now dependent on it. 5) Unlike other primates, human estrus is mostly invisible/concealable. 6) Because human female fertility is invisible, and because human procreation depends on human females being fertile…… Read more »

theasdgamer
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I’d like some Game analysis of a convo. Context: Hookup bar about 8:30. I was chatting with some girls and a bartender. I’ve known these girls for a few months and have danced with them some over that time. Haven’t sexualized much. Girl 1 is a girlie girl and pretty. Girl 2 is dorky and lovely. She wears these large, dorky black-framed glasses. A tall blonde. Girl 2 is mildly attracted to me. She wanted to dance cuddly once. Maybe more than mildly, she’s a bit hard to read. Girl 1 is very good friends with Girl 2 from high… Read more »

theasdgamer
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@ Jeremy

There are physical reasons, probably derivable down to energy conservation, why men are more horny than women.

Men have a higher resting state of sexual desire, but get women around a desirable man and their sexual desire can spike higher than a man’s. Men don’t go throwing their underwear at women, but women throw panties at men who are rock stars.

enrique
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enrique

Every White Knight I have known, in any position of power, who “helped” women get into positions of authority just under him, or lateral to him, got viciously stabbed by them in the back shortly after. I think some of these high-positioned Alphas (otherwise) had no choice in a way, and had to “play along” (clearly the white dude at Yale is not this type, he was in on it from the very BEGINNING of his career). But for the senior manager at a big company or govt agency, they almost have to play the game–and then they get stabbed… Read more »

Jeremy
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@theasdgamer

No doubt you are correct. For instance, there is no male equivalent of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOcYTOBA0CI

Our fem-centric society has decided that the measure of horniness is male sexuality, and has used that yardstick as a club to beat men with for being “too obsessed with sex.”

Kyfho Myoba
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Kyfho Myoba

@Keyser, ScribblerG,

We really have no idea what the initial socio-sexual dynamics between Gomeshi and the Liars were – whether he presented as Alpha or Beta. What we do know, is that he fucked them, and fucked them well enough that they returned for more, many, many times. Ahem. These are not the results that a Beta gets.

It is more likely that the Liars wanted more (sex, commitment, who knows?) than Gomeshi was willing to provide, and, well, you know, PATRIARCHY!!!!!

Ang Aamer
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Slightly off topic but I think I found a female Anthony! I read the Sub-Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/creepyPMs/ It’s a cruel place where messages from Betas to Entitled sluts get critiqued to the amusement of the sluts and omegas who inhabit the reddit. The thread to look at is this one: http://m.imgur.com/a/0mFnO It’s a screen cap of a POF messaging – FYI You will be confused if you DO NOT Click the LOAD REMAINING IMAGES to get the sluts advice. Remember – LOAD REMAINING IMAGES Her comments mixed with Omega comments are here – https://www.reddit.com/r/creepyPMs/comments/4c004j/in_which_i_am_asked_to_give_a_critique_and_do_so/ TL;DR version – Guy with minimal Red… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

” . . . the white dude at Yale is not this type, he was in on it from the very BEGINNING of his career . . .”

It turns out that the girl screaming “Who the fuck hired you?” was on the committee that hired him.

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Jeremy – Very nice explication of the biological costs of estrus. You touched on the topic of how female fertility is hidden, whereas in some other species it is easily detectable in males. It seems males in those species are also “always on” sexually so I think you are right that it pays to have maximum choice for women when they are fertile but it doesn’t explain the hidden nature of female human estrus. According to this article which summarizes research on concealed estrus, http://pkhanal.umwblogs.org/2009/11/22/loss-of-estrus-evolution-of-concealed-ovulation-in-humans/ and it turns out that concealed estrus coincides with monogamy and increased parental investment. Yet… Read more »

Jeremy
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@scribblerg Yet human females advertise estrus via more flirtatious behavior and also engage in different sexual behavior. The implication of this is profound for the Red Pill male. It seems that women do this so they can con Beta/Provider men into sex, thinking it gives them a chance at reproduction while also changing strategies to advertise fertility when it’s on for best genetic quality. Female dualistic mating strategies have an incredibly deep biological basis and social utility that most women – and even many Red Pill men – can’t seem to come to grips with. Exactly, I think it makes… Read more »

stuffinbox
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Can a man that has been relegated to the proverbial cornfield ever return to consensus society?
IMO short of a change of identity and venue,not likely.
For high profile men like Cosby,Gomeshi etc. cornfield survival is not even an option,it would seem the only viable option would be to embrace the new villain role and run with it.This option is hardly viable for most because of the internal moral conflict implied.
Hence the men in the cornfield hear the siren call and fight down their idealistic temptation,having once survived the rocks,not wanting a repeat experience.

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

Because men can overpower women on the whole, it is a woman’s brain that is rooted in a mortal fear of men. All their behaviours and rationalizations, indeed even cognitive frameworks, are rooted in a mortal fear of men. Sexual dimorphism alone explains a lot of female behavior, add hidden estrus into the mix and a great, great deal is explainable. I believe that a lot of women look at men as a horse whisperer looks at a horse; big, not too bright animal that can cause a lot of damage if poorly managed, but quite useful otherwise. So interesting… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

” . . . it would seem the only viable option would be to embrace the new villain role and run with it.”

If you’re going to be convicted no matter what, might as well do as you please.

stuffinbox
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@ AR
I agree with your analogy,leaving men to avoid the Bit,being put out to pasture or sold to become Alpo.

Kate Minter
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“When I had my first kid and I was stuck at home with her all day while she slept…”

How charming. Your feminism is showing. Allow me to correct you:

When we had our first child and I was blissfully content at home getting to spend every moment with her…

stuffinbox
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@KFG “might as well do as you please.”

Took a guest up to my alpine honey hole yesterday,aside from the postholeing and outright floundering through deep drifts,he landed a trophy mackinaw and we both caught the limit.STELLAR day w/ no bitches present.

keyser Soze
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keyser Soze

Women are the weaker sex, when you’re weak, you can never play a fair game. weakness for women is a double edge sword , in order for the Tingle to generate, she has to enter into a dominant man’s frame, she has to be at peace with her weakness to “Tingle” otherwise, she can never Tingle. Beautiful woman (above 8s) are at peace with their nature, they can afford being weak and get Tingle + $$ from any man . Ugly women(all feminists /under 8s) are the opposite, they don’t play fair, and they are scorned and vindictive. 13 years… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

@Stuff in Box:

Still waiting for opening day here in the land of an 18″ brownie being a big deal.

Except for the snow bit, I’m jealous.

SJB
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SJB

@scribblerg: Can one use both of these signals to get laid effectively? My infield experience tells me being the older guy triggers the provider response naturally sometimes and until recently I’ve focused on disqualifying myself that way. . A neophyte’s opinion: the woman has no idea she’s signaling much less why she is signaling. If you strongly guide her away from BB and she still shows interest that’s great. If she tries to re-frame you as BB then it’s a next. In other words, why she’s approaching your frame is unimportant; what is important is that she enter your frame… Read more »

stuffinbox
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@kfg
An 18″ Brown is a big deal in any land,where hesitation leads to regret.
As for the snow another set of 36″ Canadian webs are in order.

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Jeremey – “If women can have (some level of) conscious control of their signals (as opposed to involuntary biological signals), they have some control over which males get to procreate. This is only possible with hidden estrus. I’d gather that male stoicism is an in-process response.” This is what I was trying to get at. It gives women conscious control, which they will even talk about openly if you get them very comfortable with you and the believe you “just get it”. I still find this mindblowing, how overt is it in some ways but also how it’s never, ever… Read more »

enrique
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enrique

kfg: Interesting, I did not know that. My favorite line of hers was the whole “this is about making me a comfortable home” or whatever. Too funny. To their (barely granted) credit, the Yale dude and his wife basically pulled out of the system, right? The wifey wrote some addendum to her original crybaby blog or something from what I recall. They “got it” and realized like any good coup, they themselves were going to be thrust upon the wall to be shot. Happens in all takeovers, some of the “smart” Cubans (etc) who were part of the Revolution, get… Read more »

emilyy96
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“When I had my first kid and I was stuck at home with her all day while she slept”

RPW in a nutshell.

keyser Soze
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keyser Soze

Ghomeshi ‘s lawyer Marie Henein ,one week before the ruling (by the way, she was attacked by feminists for defending Ghomeshi).

her golden rule: Always mean what you say and be prepared to walk away.

“The minute you are desperate for something to settle, your opponent knows and you have lost,” said Henein.

http://www.westerngazette.ca/news/henein-inspires-packed-law-school-audience/article_98e9b3a0-ead9-11e5-80aa-03845497006e.html

keyser Soze
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keyser Soze

@Emily the little unless bitch.
I mean, what the fuck Is wrong with you?
Different fucking photo of yourself every time you post? I mean, what the fuck?
Do you think this is fucking Facebook?
I fucking hate hate hate your face and all the lip stick you put on the pigs lips.
Get fucking over it, you are not a 10 or a 9 or an 8.
Now if you show some tits (not that you have any) you might be a 7. (in my scale a7 is ugly).

kfg
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kfg

@Enrique:

The scholar in me fixed on the prefix: “It is not about creating an intellectual space!”

At fucking Yale.

” . . . the Yale dude and his wife basically pulled out of the system, right?”

The wife resigned, the dude is “taking a one semester sabbatical.”

Others, disgusted with the system, are starting to abandon the sinking ship:

http://observer.com/2016/02/yale-art-school-dean-robert-storr-steps-down-first-woman-named-to-role/

His replacement is system to the bone:

http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20160209/yale-school-of-art-getting-first-female-dean-in-marta-kuzma

Forge the Sky
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Forge the Sky

Alright, we got a roundtable going. Just thought I’d throw out a reminder if anyone wanted to join 😉

kfg
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kfg

Addendum:

The dude, whose spine you can watch gradually crumble over the course of the confrontation, was once on Time magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in the World list.

Should he return to his position, he will do so as an eggshell waiting to be walked on.

emilyy96
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Forge! 😀
Whats a roundtable?

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Emily – It’s a table with no corners.

Forge the Sky
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Forge the Sky

Sorry Em, no ovaries allowed. House rules.

Pinelero
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Pinelero

OMG… I just closely looked at the pic of the fat lady being taken into protective custody- I think that’s a nipple. Even with tits it’s time for her to GTFO.

kfg
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kfg

@Pinelero:

She’s a member of FEMEN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femen

That’s her on the right: https://twitter.com/FemenCanada

Scroll down a bit to see the “official PR” photo of her back, which has “WOMEN DECLARE GHOMESHI GUILTY” written across it. Across her front (for which there is thankfully no PR photo) is written, “MISOGYNY IN BED AND IN COURT”.

Sun Wukong
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@keyser

Damn bro. Butthurt much?

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

keyser soze to Emilyslut I mean, what the fuck Is wrong with you? She’s a 20 year old dearie in need of attention. Duh. What’s wrong with you that you can’t see this truth right in front of you? BTW, LeeLee’s comment about staying home with her baby & hanging out on social media / uselessnet web forums is something every man under 30 needs to pay attention to. The modern young woman is a habitual user of social media, it’s the modern sewing circle. She’s in need of that social stroking, so a wise man would choose where and… Read more »

Jeremy
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@kfg

Has someone told that woman her face looks like a man? Seriously, she looks like my brother.

The Question
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“Her ambition, she explains, “is to be just slutty enough, where you’re not a prude but you’re not a whore. . . . Finding that balance is every college girl’s dream, you know what I mean?” Dalrock has elaborated on this mentality before. No girl wants to be seen as a slut, including sluts. So they engage in grandiose rationalizations or keep moving the boundary posts as to what behavior constitutes a slut to justify their own choices. As long as they can say to themselves “I’m a good girl” and they’re seen as one by others, they’ll do it. The problem… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

kfg on Yale
His replacement is system to the bone:

The bone is pretty easy to see in that hatchet face…

Looking For Zion
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Looking For Zion

This reminds me of an encounter I had while in the military. One of the women on my crew was getting married and was complaining one day about how some of the hundreds of wishes in her jar weren’t coming true. When I.reached my limit with her whining I told her sometimes you can’t always get what you want. Her response was instant red faced anger, a “how dare you talk to me that way” and stomping off the aircraft. She didn’t talk to me for like two weeks. Not that I really cared. But it was an experience that… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

One wonders how many of these girls’ “assaults” were just encounters that violated their “good girl” code. …the morning after…or the week after…or the month after…or..well, see the Ghomeshi accusers, eh? Their behavior so dramatically crossed the line between good girl and slut in their mind that they can’t rationalize it as such or move the goal post that far. Their behavior when they are in their own little nasty world is thrilling but when the compare notes later with girlfriends it becomes, oops! I didn’t mean to do THAT! He must have rayped me! It’s ironic that they bash… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Rollo – I referenced that you covered it but not the exact post. I will review, thanks for the link.

Sun Wukong
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@Rollo

You gonna pop on with us today?

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