Well, dammit, here we go again. Just as I’m mid-way through another in-depth post I get stopped by something I can’t ignore. The above ‘post’ has been making the rounds on Twitter and more than a few in the ‘sphere have asked me for my take.
I probably would’ve just blown this off along with the few hundred other incidences of Beta guys (really Average Frustrated Chump in this instance) bemoaning the same lack of cooperation on the part of women to play along with their investment in the old set of books, that was however until I read through the predictable ‘Nice Shaming’ of Mark Pygas here.
“Good guys” are the absolute worst. If you’re going to go on an insane rant every time a woman tells you ‘no,’ you’re not a good guy.
Tumblr user Fenrufenrifenny recently spotted a flyer posted all around town that shamed women for not giving the “good guys a chance” and choosing “scum” men. Just a brief warning, it will probably be the worst thing you’ve ever read.
Proxy male femsplaining aside, no Mark, this isn’t worst thing I’ve ever read from a Nice Guy. In fact, just three years ago the ‘Nice Guys of OK Cupid‘ blog/hashtag made a point of running these Good Guys up the flagpole for the exact same frustrations of dealing with women in the most deductive, old rules way they’ve been taught to deal with women by their own words and conditioning.
You aren’t an original Mark, Hugo Schwyzer beat you to the Nice-Shaming-As-Beta-Game 4 years ago. And just like Hugo you make the same predictable assumptions about men expecting sex for niceties in an era where women exploit and advertise that men doing more chores and making women’s lives easier will lead to sex.
You see shaming Nice Guys for playing by the rules every woman has told him he ought to play by – since his single-mother or feminized father mentioned he should respect women by default to him since 5 years old – is the height of Hypergamous hypocrisy. Every time a woman, or a Vichy Male femsplainer, tells a guy “just be yourself‘ or “women love men who respect women” or in some other way convince him that women’s intimacy is best achieved by being the sensitive, understanding and supportive Beta they’ll need once they can no longer attract an Alpha asshole, all you do is reinforce the Nice Guy you now hate so much.
You see, you don’t get it both ways. You can’t shame and heap derision upon a Nice Guy for believing the same Old Books horse shit you’ve taught him will earn a woman’s favor and love. You don’t get to call him duplicitous when he believes all the “just be yourself” and “in the end women really want Nice men” tropes he’s been fed by the media mouths of a society that’s founded on women’s Hypergamy.
You may think this is some new development, but Nice Shaming has been going on for at least the 4 and a half years I’ve been blogging:
When truly nice guys (80-90% of the masculine sphere) read a line like “Nice Guys are the real jerks” something snaps in their heads. Black is white, up is down and Nice Guys are Jerks. Most Nice Guys have been playing the self-internalized Beta Game, identification scenario out for so long that to read something like this is akin to blaspheme. “Great now all these women I’ve been trying to be so nice too (like they all say they want) really think I’m a jerk?” One would think this would be a moment of clarity for the Nice Guy and he’d realize the truth of what his ‘misogynist’ Game-aware friends had been trying to enlighten him about for so long.
It’s almost like I have to revisit this Nice Guy paradox ever two years or so:
The only way to garner true appreciation, true valuation, truly inspired displays of affection, from women is to covertly imply the risk of losing a high-value Man. Whether the man is even truly of a higher value is irrelevant, only the perception needs to be reinforced for her. Risk of loss is all that factors. Risk of losing an investment in optimizing hypergamy is weighed against her own perceived sexual market value and the effort needed to reinvest in another, potentially higher SMV man. Risk of loss is why her imagination furiously spins the wheel in her head.
That sounds horrible, but the truth often is. Women’s lack of appreciation for the more compassionate natures of men, and their consuming regard for rewarding men that appease their hypergamy is so well proven it’s become predictable enough to develop techniques and behavioral modifications to exploit it (i.e. Game). Most guys would like nothing better than to honestly play the loving, white knight, romantic who women bemoan a lack of in the world. Yet for every sonnet composed, every provision met, every compliment delivered and every well planned candlelit dinner conversation, there’s a woman feverishly fucking her Alpha bad boy in his low rent apartment for fear of losing him to the competition.
Dear Sir,
If you’re watching some girl you like getting hurt by another guy STOP WHINING ABOUT IT AND DO SOMETHING. Don’t leave some anonymous note on a dorm wall. If you know someone is being hurt DO. SOME. THING.
If you want to play the “good guy” you need to rethink your intentions. If you’re only doing it for gratification, then you aren’t being the good guy. Did Batman give up on Gotham because people weren’t thanking him for saving the city?
You know what I really want? I want respect. I want people to respect that I’d rather not walk with a stranger in the middle of the night. I want people to respect that I can defend myself. I want people to respect that WOMEN CAN DO THINGS WITHOUT A GENTLEMAN TO HELP.
You want to be a gentlemen and a good guy? Start with changing the way you and other men see women. We aren’t fragile things you need to defend. We’re people. Keep holding doors open, keep being friendly, just don’t expect things in return; you aren’t owed anything by this world.
If you want us to be less afraid of the world, then change the world, don’t change us.
The obliviousness to the original message might seem staggering until you consider that it was likely typed out by a woman with a self-impression of female empowerment. The idea she’s addressing is that it’s the Nice Guy’s fault for not stepping in to “do something” while simultaneously claiming that “women can do things without a man’s help”. That alone would be enough to illustrate the mindset that would respond to a Nice Guy bemoaning women’s duplicity about ‘being Nice’, but she continues to miss the point that the dutiful ‘helping’ he’s offering isn’t help at all, but his disillusionment with his Blue Pill conditioning.
It’s likely he’s oblivious to it, but he’s publicly taken a step into Red Pill awareness and in doing so reveals women’s Hypergamous duplicity. Now, that is what it is, but that step into Red Pill awareness is something that makes women very uncomfortable when they don’t control the narrative about their own Hypergamy. It’s one thing to make Hypergamy ‘open’ in a commercial or in a book by an empowered woman, but let a man reveal it in his perspective and he’s “bitter” or it’s an “insane rant” by a Nice Guy who’s only Nice because he thinks it’ll get him laid.
As I was saying, in the future I expect to see less Nice Shaming as the machinations of Hypergamy becomes part of men’s popular consciousness. The result, like most others brought on by feminine social primacy, will be men taking women at their word – “women can do things without a man’s help” and they “aren’t fragile things you need to defend” – and they’ll get the men they deserve; men who will understand that niceties aren’t in fact exchangeable for appreciation, intimate or otherwise. Their attentions, courtesies and help will be reserved for the women who actually deserve and reciprocate it rather than due to it being some default chivalry that’s expected of them. And they’ll abandon the strong independent women (and even the ones who look like them) to their fates, while they cry about the lack of self-sacrificing ‘real men’ to love and help them when it’s convenient for them.
It’ll take a while. Obviously the same Nice Shaming from a decade ago still manifests like this occasionally, and the predictable “women don’t owe you sex” indignation is still the reflexive response. But as the old exchanges of the old rules are cycled out for the cruel, but accepted, realities that the Red Pill outlines, women will get exactly the men they deserve. Men who will give them respect based on their real personal merits and only offer niceties to the ones who wont spit in their faces or accuse them of sexual harassment for doing so.
As it stands now, Nice Shaming serves as a filter for women’s Hypergamy. The guys who Just Get It don’t post notes like this. Guys who get it learn from that frustration, they adapt, they experiment, they adjust and they develop Game to exploit the real intersexual rules in play, and they don’t make grandiose displays of the real game.
kfg: Thugtician, Sandman, Barbarossa (whatever happened to him…could never figure out if he was NY Latin, black, or both, or Italian, but he had street smarts), and a few others that were good back in the day. There’s a British-sounding guy that does the whole gamergate stuff that’s pretty good. ThinkingApe is good, reminds me of the guy who did the entire Atlas Shrugged book, like a John Galt type. Haven’t kept up with them in a long time. Part of it is, as a married guy, to a nice foreign gal, with kids, I’m only involved on the periphery.… Read more »
And of course, Tommy Sotomoyor, who is basically the king of the alt.Red Pill in a way. Gives a new angle that I think is good for all demographics and ages. Plus, he’s funny as hell.
Lord… who seriously has time to watch all those PUA videos? Just go out and act like a normal human doing things a normal, interesting human does. “Is it just me or do the men here have the same experience that women will never say ‘bless you’ when someone sneezes? I hear men say this, never women. That’s kind of petty, but it’s something I notice on a large scale.” Rollo, I think this is more a generational thing than gender. Also, cultural. Women and men alike say that quite often here in Texas, but not so much my generation… Read more »
I just want to twist everything you say emily…..right after I twist your nipples…..
@Sun Wukong lol that’s a sign that your subcomms are on track. Part of why Julien says such outrageous shit is that his subcomms are rock solid so he can do it in a way that people aren’t offended… @redlight …same with Russell Brand he can say outrageous things (although if you listen to what Russell says it’s almost NEVER negative, he’s ALWAYS spreading good value to people, compliments, very polite, very gentlemanly etc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6JdXvsWYM&t=5s Notice how he has AMPLE opportunity to insult them or AMOG the other guy in a negative way, but he doesn’t, he actively chooses to… Read more »
@Enrique: I’ve known all of those guys since day one or three, as well as some guys who primarily addressed the black community; that’s why I’m a bit surprised I didn’t know Thugtician. Barbarossa has been concentrating on a blog: http://sheddingoftheego.com/ Put me down as one of those who has no use for Sandman. Not because he’s MGTOW, but because he’s Sandman. I like the British guy (Sargon of Akkad), but I’ve posted one of his videos here to show a guy being anti-feminist, yet still egalitarian blue pill, letting a fat, unattractive radical feminist twist him around her finger… Read more »
“… who seriously has time to watch all those PUA videos?”
Really. No fashion or make up tips at all.
@Sentient – “Dynamic, Passionate and Authentic. The Alpha Triad. Your starting to feel the effect of this on your game. Once everything you are doing aligns with the Triad, you are in supra Game territory. At that point Game will make sense as merely the female language (verbal & physical) of seduction.” Wow, you are painting the path just ahead of me every step of the way. Yeah, I’m chilling about pickup as I get that the real game is getting my life fully back in alignment after it going haywire as I’ve presented at length on these pages. Congruence… Read more »
^I’m mean???
“I’m mean???”
We’ve been over this. You’re nasty. A MGTOW making machine on wheels. The feminine counterpart to everything you think Nice Guys are.
@ Sentient
“But here’s the real question. Would you fuck her?”
“The words “grudge fuck” have crossed my mind.”
Guys guys guys… this is playing right into her hands… FI all the way. It is a rigged game though Girl shit tests guy to death and IF the guy stomps all over them she gets laid by a “hot” guy who passed her tests… She can’t lose!!!
Women.
Fuck who! lol
How much do you think I am invested in what’s her name?
You can shiv a girl as long as it is totally congruent with your ZFG frame. Shivs from a ZFG frame provoke seismic perturbations in the loins of lovely lasses.
“Is it just me or do the men here have the same experience that women will never say ‘bless you’ when someone sneezes? I hear men say this, never women. That’s kind of petty, but it’s something I notice on a large scale.” Rollo, I think this is more a generational thing than gender. Also, cultural. Women and men alike say that quite often here in Texas, but not so much my generation since they weren’t taught proper manners. On the other hand, I never hear it from men or women in NYC. You know, this sounds almost like it… Read more »
@em No. You’re stupid. Never attribute to malice that which you can attribute to stupidity. @YaReally lol that’s a sign that your subcomms are on track. Part of why Julien says such outrageous shit is that his subcomms are rock solid so he can do it in a way that people aren’t offended… That’s part of it. I think the other part is honestly the old chestnut that humor and jokes are all about timing. She pretty much set me up by telling me her friend (the target) was hotter than her. Back of my mind where I’ve always been… Read more »
@Yareally
Do You have anymore links with material like tylers https://breakrapport.wordpress.com/
This shit is just golden.
@Yareally Looking for stuff like the “Sickboy007 and I want entrance into an exclusive club. We don’t only want entrance, but we want it free and we want to be bumped to the front of the line. We do this all the time – I sit back and pretend to be a celeb. I say nothing, acknowledge nobody, and act aloof. Sickboy007 is my manager. Sickboy007: Hey, we’re heading up to VIP. BOUNCER: Are you on the guest list? Sickboy007: You guys treat us really good here. Actually, we’re going to need to bring in our friends tommorow, and we… Read more »
@mersonia – I think a lot of those subcomms and behaviours go together..the DHVs that work on hot girls will work on bouncers too (umm, not sexually unless you’re gay). The point is if you just work on developing social proof and presence and all that stuff, the above will come. If you just want to read Tyler’s stuff – YaReally posts a ton of his writings – check the YaReally Archive for the Tyler posts Digest he posted quite recently and the Fast Seduction forum archives he posted a couple months ago – archived posts from the pre- and… Read more »
Scribblerg Good journey you’re on. “I see the truth of game nonstop in how women behave … It’s all as clear as a bell to me.” That’s why I liken Game to language… it’s been spoken all around you your whole life, but you couldn’t make it out. A natural is one who has picked up some phrases, can get to the station, the bathroom and order off the menu. A Game Master speaks the language without an accent, and a Grand Master speaks it in several dialects. Keep listening. Just yesterday I was walking by an outdoor patio bar… Read more »
@Sun – Ya. Finding that authentic you is a big part of what internal game is all about. Isn’t it interesting how deeply we subsume our true natures and how used to it we are? I think perhaps in both our cases, our abusive upbringing puts this phenomena on steroids as abused kids learn to be who they have to be to survive. But in the end, isn’t the Blue Pill/FI all about having men subjugate their masculinity and to suppress it? As for Em, I’m curious, you don’t see her as kind of nasty? To me, she seems coiled,… Read more »
@YaReally: wow man that is a lot of content to digest.
There is something that has been bothering me – you and others often say Tyler is ugly. His face seems fairly symmetrical to me, I wouldn’t say he is ugly at all. I wouldn’t say he is top 20% in looks, but he is probably still above average as far as guys’ faces go. Is it just because he is ginger, or am I clueless?
7.5 to 8… Pffffftt. She is 6.5 at best. Look at that round face, chipmunk cheeks and wide bridge nose… She has worked those Instagram angles harder than Pythagoras…
And that’s without seeing the rest of her.
Scrib…. Commenter Using No Truth has never said anything here that would indicate any above average intelligence at all. Also she is not above 7. Her manner of snarky attack is on par with an average self centered 20 yo chick. Nothing to see here.
For autists and others who want to learn about getting social advantages at a bar:
https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2016/03/24/this-one-weird-trick-to-get-social-advantages-at-a-bar/
@Sentient, love that “game as a language” angle. So true. I haven’t banged any other women yet, but I can practically open any woman now with very little, if any, approach anxiety or open anxiety. Wonderful mindset and head space to be in. Now, the morning walk to get coffee is much more, the lunch break is much more, the happy hour is much more happy. Any place outside of my house or office is like a Game arena to play in.
@Sentient – I found pix she posted online of herself in the past and posted them here, and then took them down as the point was to blow her cover as a fraud. She was claiming to have been this born again virgin since she was, having gone wayward as a young teen for a couple of years. She was found online to be talking about how awesome coke is, posting sexy pics of herself in various places like Badoo and discussing her racism openly with a white supremacist guy on a Google+ thread she thought she hid but was… Read more »
@ aloof
Wonderful mindset and head space to be in. Now, the morning walk to get coffee is much more, the lunch break is much more, the happy hour is much more happy. Any place outside of my house or office is like a Game arena to play in.
Excellent! I want to get there some day. I tend to be focused on my errands when I go out.
@asd, Yeah, you can “focus” on your errands when you make them and when you get to the destination point for each, but everything between those two spots is extra credit.
IAS- people have tried to quantify looks using facial symetry for a while. I don’t buy it. I don’t believe there really is a universal measurement. I don’t know if Tyler is ugly or not, and my opinion re: his looks don’t matter because I’m not a chick. Also I don’t understand ” ginger hate ” at all…lol. Perfection does not exist in anything and measurments for such are subject to the elevation os some over the many. A very human tendancy based on personal preferences. Look at ” beautiful ” over a few millenia and cultures. And pardon my… Read more »
A small phone that’s optimized to be a phone and a large tablet that’s optimized to be a tablet makes more sense than a smartphone that’s too big to be a good phone, but too small to be a good tablet.
@Blax – I have a knack for guessing people’s IQs accurately, but of course could be wrong. I’m no fan of Em’s commentary, it’s a scroll wheel cue for me, but I guarantee you she’s of above average intelligence compared to the average woman. She has the typical attitude of a 20 yo chick, and the overall POV of one, and is nasty in ways many of them aren’t in my book. She’s what I refer to as “clever”, and you find many female social justice warriors are at this level of intelligence – 115-120 IQ range (average being 100).… Read more »
Emily, I’ve found, perhaps it’s generational, that MOST women, MOST of the time, do not engage in day-to-day niceties, such as “oh, Bless you” for a sneeze or when they are in the way (like yakking in a hallway) or barraeling out of or in an elevator, you don’t get the obligatory “oh pardon me” or if you say “excuse me” you don’t get the “oh, I’m sorry, excuse me” that folks used to say and men still do. It’s especially pronounced with black women–even when two of them are yapping their gums and in everyone’s way and you do… Read more »
pua challenge: frances bean, 23, HB6 (7 if you count all that sweet nevermind cash), soon to be single, daddy issues (ex tries to look just like kurt) right in the pua wheelhouse, should be easy to take one night of from flying around the world to prove your alpha game be sure the field report includes specific reference to the “circular walls of her anus” and how you don’t “prefer her to any other” I think roissy’s biggest accomplishment was nailing some 40 y.o. single mom that used to bang anthony kedis when she was 15 shouldn’t be too… Read more »
Off topic: The Red Pill has ruined one of my all-time favorite jams. So smooth, yet so beta. lol.
@newly
Here’s your consolation prize..
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvYIpa1Ulvw&w=420&h=315%5D
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It used to be that women were respectful to men…back as late as the early 70s…now, not so much…at my bar, women mess with my world…they feel entitled to be rude because they are chasing feelz and attention and being competitive with other women…of course, I don’t tolerate it and swatted one broad on the butt for swatting my butt while I was dancing with another broad…she messed with my world…unacceptable…not an isolated incident by any means…happens all the time and I have to do constant boundary patrol…and I am definitely not a nice guy…I probably seem too laid back…girls… Read more »
@Tuff, haha, forgot about that one
@sentient Crazy article about that VC dude. I don’t feel bad for either of them. That he paid 10 million already kinda makes him a super sucker in my eyes. I wouldn’t have paid anything, especially after I’d lost my job to the situation. It boggles my mind that men of ridiculous means still get swept up in stupid bullshit like this. Why would he even fuck with such a person for any length of time? (13 years? she’s practically his common-law wife lol) @redlight so tbh i’d never heard of the baffler website and didn’t initially notice that the… Read more »
NY Times review of Girls and Sex, Navigating the Complicated New Landscape By Peggy Orenstein An economics major taking a gender studies class is getting dressed in her college dorm room for a night out, cheerfully discussing sexual stereotyping in advertising with Orenstein — while at the same time grabbing a miniskirt and a bottle of vodka, the better to achieve her evening goal: to “get really drunk and make out with someone.” “You look hot,” her friend tells her — and the student, apparently registering the oddness of the scene, turns to Orenstein. “In my gender class I’m all,… Read more »
On Beauty Here is my scale, helps focus. remember this is a distribution curve across population and logarithmic scale… Applies to women in peak years (i.e. does not account for gradiations due to decay from age) 10 – unicorn (personal fetish 9) 9 – Will be making a living primarily off of her looks. 36-24-36 5’9″ or taller. Models, top escorts, top club strippers. Great bodies, perfect teeth, eyes, lips skin. Swan neck, long limbs… 8 – “hollywood pretty”, face of a 9 but typically shorter, less ideal proportions, lower BMI than 7. Amy Adams, Rachel McAdams, Amanda seyfried, Isla… Read more »
@emilycuck: “We can distinguish if a man is holding the door open for you and carrying books for you because he’s actually a great person, or because he simply wants to impress you. And that is an important distinction.” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaha!!!! So women have their magic moist vagina detectors. All they have to do is swipe and measure how moist their red flaring hamburger meat is and it magically tells them whether a man is being “nice” because he wants to be a “great person” or because he wants to “impress you.” Of course, if he is just trying to impress… Read more »
@ bpp
Nice deconstruction of a roundup of Emily’s comments.
BTW: “Hawwwt guys” are not being “nice because they are “nice.” Instead you perceive them as “nice” because they want to fuck you and you want to fuck them. Feels before realz. I know you just expect to be treated like a princess by everybody but here is the truth: THE ONLY REASON MEN TREAT YOU WELL IS BECAUSE YOU ARE A YOUNG, HOT LOOKING SLOOT. WHEN YOU ARE 28 AND BEYOND ALL THE MEN WILL TREAT YOU LIKE THEY TREAT OTHER MEN. You think you can control and torment your BF because you are such a wonderful person yet… Read more »
All I need to know about that NYTimes book review is this:
Peggy Orenstein is 54 years old.
Jian Ghomeshi not guilty on all charges, here comes the FI articles that will claim:
1. He is “guilty”
2. This verdict hurts women everywhere
@scrib I also don’t think she’s stupid, I actually think she’s kind of smart. Not brilliant but I bet she has an IQ of about 120 or so. Intelligence isn’t just about IQ. It’s about being taught to actually use it, which she clearly has not. You can have a 200+ IQ and still be stupid if you fail or refuse to actually put it to good use. As for Em, I’m curious, you don’t see her as kind of nasty? No, I see her as a not very bright person incentivized to behave this way. Take somebody that’s not… Read more »
@redlight
I know we in TRP community tend to say SJWs want to treat any kind of rape/sexual assault accusation from a woman as “guilty until proven innocent”, but I think your points get to why that’s wrong. They want “guilty until proven guilty” to be the sexual law of the land. I think there might be a term for that.
More like guilty even after proven innocent. The Feminine Imperative trumps the legal process, all that matters is the accusation.
@redlight, yes, CBC Radio this am was all a flutter with these gems this am: “We need to rebuild the court system to get justice for victims of assault, no matter what happens in court”. “She should always be believed, the victim that is” We’ll see how fast they throw the “victims” in the fire too, you know, for not being good enough victims to “get that fucker”. Plenty more fallout to come, he has another trial coming up in June for a separate matter. The SJW’s (Who used to adore him BTW) will be burning him in effigy until… Read more »
Callaghan’s (Crown attorney / prosecutor) statement was interrupted by a distraught protester, who was topless and had the words “Women declare Ghomeshi guilty” written on her back.
She could be heard screaming Ghomeshi’s name before she was tackled by police and dragged into the courthouse.
The FI just never stops proving its existence.
@Agent P, do you have a link to that?
“You don’t have to be a jerk to be alpha or get attraction. You just have to be congruent. You don’t even have to be high-energy to be a polite value-giving dude, Todd is pretty low energy and someone like James Marshall shows how low you can take your energy level:” ya. this is why i like throwing out fictional characters who would do fine with women IRL even tho they aren’t typical ‘aphas’ that the manosphere jerks off to (James Bond, Conan, etc. etc.) “Nice Guys” also find themselves in situs with women who like Billy the Bad Boy… Read more »
I have an intelligence anecdote from last night’s board games meetup. I was playing Smashup with three other men (I had the Dwarves and Pirates decks). Two early-20s men were brand new to the game, but very clever. I was barely able to win. My fourth time playing, so I had an advantage over the young men. (The intense competition made it lots of fun, btw.) I was brand new to Elder Sign (cooperative game) and we won. I was key to the win. Two people of four were out. I played a spies game which involves the Resistance and… Read more »
Wow. Just wow. Russell Brand completely RULED that news show. And then I watched the rest of the Brand clips. Masterful wit and game.
Thanks, scray. I find that I can lol at lots of crap thrown at me without getting in peoples’ faces. Lots of times they are just a little awkward (hah!) and trying to be fun. Or they are being jerks and you can tool them, hoisting them with their own petards. Even when you enforce boundaries, you need to still not take yourself too seriously.
Keep in mind, Tom Cruise was a relatively newly minted Scientologist when that squirt prank was played on him. I’m not saying he’s not alpha, or that his response is somehow non-genuine because of that. However, there is significant pressure on him to behave a certain way as an “ambassador” to a cult.
@newlyaloof Any place outside of my house or office is like a Game arena to play in. for married guys, game doesn’t stop at the front door…lol…(or at least it shouldn’t…) even if you’ve already written off the marriage (and that’s the FI pushing on you…bc the base concept is that YOU can’t change = you are slotted as provider…), the wife can still help you as a live-in ‘game simulator’…lol…= AWALT so, when you’re feeling good about yourself and have good internals just pick a day to agree and amplify her shit tests and see what happens…you know, for… Read more »
Posted two days after Rollo, Susan Walsh makes it very clear exactly what women think of “nice” – aka, unattractive – guys. Some excerpts: – “The Nice Guy™ is one of the internet’s most ridiculed characters. He is slammed for his sense of entitlement, the ways in which he misrepresents himself, and his capacity for self-delusion. He is notorious for blaming women for his own lack of attractiveness. And he’s creepy. – However these maladjusted and warped views take hold, I want to set the record straight. Here are the reasons this letter and the pouty Nice Guy™ strategy it… Read more »
@having a bad day
…for married guys, game doesn’t stop at the front door…lol…(or at least it shouldn’t…)
Honestly, game, or the practical use of game plus the laws of power, etc… never stops.
I was considering a work situation here recently, where a female employee several pay grades above me has decided that she can’t trust me. It dawned on me that I have absolutely no choice by to employ game to salvage the situation, partly because she’s a woman, and partly because she herself is not technically strong (by any measure).
So the Toronto Star is the paper that all but facilitated the “testimony” of the alleged victims in this, they are the Left leaning paper of the nation, call them Rolling Stone by another name.
http://www.thestar.com/news/jian-ghomeshi/2016/03/24/jian-ghomeshi-verdict.html
The National Post is slightly Right leaning, they regularly run columns actually questioning the FI in pretty frank terms,
http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-ruling
CBC is of course his former employer and they are waaaaay left a la NPR style
http://www.cbc.ca/news/jian-ghomeshi-sexual-assault-trial-ruling-1.3505446
@BluePillProf – You have given me a great moment in my Red Pill journey today, in a way. The anger you displayed above seems insane to me, yet I probably have been angrier about this all than you are, and was so not that long ago. I also actually see Em as morally deficient in ways I don’t see other women so I separate that from her just being female. Even more the point? Em articulated a vital truth for men about being a “nice guy”. It isn’t about being nice, it’s about your internals and subcommunications. Are you desperate?… Read more »
@thedas “Even when you enforce boundaries, you need to still not take yourself too seriously.” yeah. That’s why the character Jerry Seinfeld plays on his show IMO probably would get women in real life. He’s pretty chill and doesn’t hesitate to walk out of a dalliance over WHATEVER may bother him lol. like it’s funny to laugh at the fact he stops banging a chick with a model-tier face because she has ‘man hands’ but most guys IRL couldn’t do that. they’d be like ‘oh well in relationships you need to compromise and i need to accept blah blah blah’… Read more »
“Top enders…”
For top enders, I prefer girls with ruddy cheeks…not pink–ruddy…have to have good proportions and facial structure, too, of course.
$usan Wal$h
Women rely on feelings of attraction to guide them in offering encouragement or initiating further contact. … To those genuinely good guys who didn’t get the memo on female attraction – for whatever reason – the solution lies with you.”
Well, there’s an old saying:
“Even a blind pig finds an acorn from time to time”.
Funny, Susan is effectively telling men, “Women don’t know what they want, it’s all intuitive, so your only sure chance is to manipulate us.”
@Rollo / agent p
http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/9540988
The feminists (ugly women) are in full gear attack on the “justice system”.
The all asking what the Ghomeshi verdict has done to “victims” who normalized situation by a blow job.
What the verdict should teach is :
For Men : DO NOT EVER go after women who are under 8s.
For Feminists (ugly women Emily ) : stop lying to yourself, you would NEVER be a HB10.
The justice system can’t fix biology.
That’s why the character Jerry Seinfeld plays on his show IMO probably would get women in real life.
One of the smoothest and most gracious displays of enforcing boundaries was in Daddy Longlegs. The girl Pendleton was dancing with was backleading and she asked if she was leading too much. Pendleton replied, “I think it was a tie.” He laughed briefly, then turned away from the girl and the camera showed his distasteful expression.
Video of topless protester:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-judge-ruling-1.3504250
Next up: police doing arrest charged with sexual assault
@Newly – Cosign that. It’s like being a zoologist and taking a walk through a nature preserve, lol. I also feel more like a predator when I’m out and about, not in the sense that I’m going to do anyone any harm or act against their will, but rather that I’m evaluating the world based on my appetites and guess what? I kind of always want to fuck hotties. So it’s like I have a new “heads up display” (HUD) called game awareness and female behavior is expressed in the language of game nonstop. That’s why the 9 that I’m… Read more »
@anon You shouldn’t ignore the book just because the author is 50+ female, as it is important to see how the FI is twisting sexual relations. Here’s how a guy became a rapist, via the book review: A college economics major wears a miniskirt, looks hot according to her friend, wants to be just slutty enough, and takes with her a bottle of vodka, to achieve her evening goal: to “get really drunk and make out with someone.” The next morning the guy she has been with gives her a ride back, and she tells him “Thanks, I had fun.”… Read more »
Funny, Susan is effectively telling men, “Women don’t know what they want, it’s all intuitive, so your only sure chance is to manipulate us.” When reading that article, let’s remind ourselves that the shitbag who wrote it, and the shitbags kissing her arse in the comment section, all of whom are now doling out vile, nasty, baseless libel against the entire Red Pill community and spreading feminist propaganda, were regular commenters on Dalrock’s blog and other Manosphere sites a mere 5-6 years ago. They pretended to be sympathizers of the Manosphere, proponents of sanitized Game and the watered-down Red Pill,… Read more »
I held the door open for a morbidly obese 30+ y.o. woman yesterday. I was a step ahead of her and held it open to let her go first because I was raised how to behave in polite society. i face-fucked my wife three hours later. holding the door open for someone really has more to do with basic manners than anything else as I’m not anything close to nice but my mother at least had the decency to teach me how to be a human fucking being. that said, I wouldn’t have held the door open for a HB8+.… Read more »
@Scribb, thought of you yesterday when I was at HH at my main spot. Saw a 24-ish girl come up to the bar by herself. I gave her the two-second eval. She seemed to be content not making eye contact with anybody and sticking to herself (girls on the prowl usually have their head on a swivel when they arrive looking for prospects), so I left her alone and continued chatting with the girl that kept insisting I share her drink and that I not leave early. I thought to myself that this 24-ish girl wasn’t in the mood for… Read more »
@hh There’s no reason to even get upset enough to call Susan names. She makes herself clear as day, though her meaning is in direct contradiction to her words. She desires to be blameless in her selection of men. Fair enough. She desires to rely only on her feelings in her selection of men. Fair enough. She desires to never be told what her feeling-based decisions mean or look like. Fair enough. The only option left, is to manipulate women. She’s made it clear that she doesn’t want responsibility, doesn’t want to use logic herself, and doesn’t want the game… Read more »
@ BPP
Daaaammmmmnnnnnnn…. You serve it up raw. I salute you.
The thing about women not being able to understand/identify/appreciate good hearted nice dudes and labeling them as desperate and/or creepy demonstrates that women actually know that they really aren’t special at all, deep down inside, and it baffles them why anyone would want to be nice to them.
I always say that Women are the ones that truly understand ” women “, and they hate each other. Pay attention.
@hoellenhund2 “Shitbags” or not, Susan knows which side her bread is buttered on today – the side that sustains the FI. Though I remember her early flirtations with the manosphere too, that history is irrelevant. The reason to read Susan today is because she says things “out loud” that the FI believes but is often silent or more subtle about. She’s a bit like a typical male ‘sphere blogger in that way – unafraid to be quite direct in her text, instead of relying on subtext. Thus one reads Susan not because she’s part of the ‘sphere, but because she… Read more »
Put more simply. There are some quotes from some famous people that say similar things…
Those who cannot be reasoned with will either subjugate you, or make their own subjugation inevitable. Women deciding they don’t want responsibility and won’t accept being reasoned with are telling you exactly what options you have left… blue pill subjugation, or gaming women.
Link to topless protester at Ghomeshi trial verdict, c/o CBC:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/protester-crashes-crown-s-scrum-at-ghomeshi-trial-1.3505895
Rollo, have you ever read a more Blue Pill article in your life? My jaw dropped half way through:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/marriage-declining-men-pigs
You shouldn’t ignore the book just because the author is 50+ female, as it is important to see how the FI is twisting sexual relations. The author is part of the FI, she went to college in the 70’s or 80’s and is bound to be a 2nd stage feminist. Here’s how a guy became a rapist, via the book review: A college economics major wears a miniskirt, looks hot according to her friend, wants to be just slutty enough, and takes with her a bottle of vodka, to achieve her evening goal: to “get really drunk and make out… Read more »
@HowlingManTodd
lol, that man gets paid to write that shit? I should start a blog. My free time is more productive than his professional time.
@Howling, clickbait.
@IAS “I wouldn’t say he is ugly at all.” He looks GREAT in his 30s (the crazy beard now is ridiculous but without it he looks good, dude lives healthy as fuck, no booze no drugs no garbage food, tons of vitamins/supplements and healthy raw food, hits the gym regularly etc). But he spent most of his pickup career looking like this: http://i.imgur.com/2bKX0Wf.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4cNQuSUTzOw/TLroCgTQN-I/AAAAAAAAADU/SK7yxzOqdqA/s1600/Screen+shot+2010-10-17+at+2.05.50+PM.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4cNQuSUTzOw/TLroemXaujI/AAAAAAAAAFU/rzWJ-7xbk4M/s320/Screen+shot+2010-10-17+at+1.47.35+PM.png http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii431/rsdnation/nathanowen.jpg With a big ol’ bald spot on the back of his head, pale pasty skin, a body that varies from skinny gay guy to fatass depending on the year, and he’s 5’7″ so full… Read more »
@BPP, ScribblerG and Blaxumus “……women actually know that they really aren’t special at all, deep down inside, and it baffles them why anyone would want to be nice to them.” Even though the current discussion is about shitting on nice guys, I think there is a more primal grab for power going on in regards to young Emily. It’s not about civilized, societal being nice and saying God Bless You for sneezes by nice guys. It is more primal than that. It is about FI power. Law #11 Learn to Keep People Dependent on You desirous of your pussy. Then… Read more »
“What’s your point?”
You can lead a hamster to vodka but you can’t make her think
Bonus coverage, NSFW remy lacroix
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1003320614
@YaReally “And I’ll stop posting huge rants about looks and RSD vids when you guys stop dedicating half the comments on every page to Emily.” Sorry man. I have shown and can show restraint. Lol. You might not have been reading hers and our posts ever since “Never Take a Woman Fishing”. Rollo needs to continue illustrating red pill awareness to newbies and intermediate and advanced guys. And her narrative is a supremely-face-palmish illustration of the FI in action. Some guys need these illustrations and Rollo has already said this past week as much. Rollo said he doesn’t mind and… Read more »
So Sentient, you posted a pic of a woman with a boob job, a heavily photoshopped woman, and then a few butter faces in swimsuits. And I’m supposed to be jealous? BPP, so many things wrong in your rant… –Nice guys are creeps because they don’t activate the tingles Uhh no, creeps are creeps. Nice guys are sometimes creeps if they are just being nice to you to get with you. I want to be treated as a human, not an object you have to impress to get sex from. –Assholes are really nice guys because they do activate the… Read more »
@ SJF
Standing next to the woman in the “Pussy Rules” T shirt, my T shirt would read, “Pussy is a commodity. Next!”
The Kevin Drum Mother Jones piece: Drum is a former rightie turned leftie. Yeah it’s clickbait but his fundamental premise is one we acknowledge: to the extent cis-het marriage continues to exist, it will be the province of the college educated and/or the economically secure, the sort whose nuptials make the NY Times. They are the only ones who can afford it, they plan for it (esp. if they want children), so their unions have the best chance of long term success. The rest of us, not so much anymore. That includes the famous bebe Boomers, whose LTR’s are falling… Read more »
@ kfg ” A small phone that’s optimized to be a phone and a large tablet that’s optimized to be a tablet makes more sense than a smartphone that’s too big to be a good phone, but too small to be a good tablet.” Agreed. My daughters keep threatening to buy me a new phone, but they all have their gigantic phones that are slightly smaller than a small tablet. I avoid typing anything out with my phone if I can help it, but I can if I need to. It just may look like a 12 year old was… Read more »
If this Kevin Drum guy has a degree it came in at the bottom percentile and certainly doesn’t show in his disneyesque writing.
He may want to consider who’s prerogative to say yes or no to a proposal before dising the working man.
Maybe he has and realized working men don’t buy this,before he sold out.
Definite sellout!
@ya “I’m just letting her know “this is what I like and if you don’t provide that then I can’t guarantee I’ll want to keep calling you”.” yeah. i mean COMPARED to a nice guy it really isn’t that hard to be a ‘bad boy.’ very good point. “It’s like man, most people out there are inherently pretty good people. ” ya….i mean, there’s some bad socialization that’s out there like racism or sexism (ya WOW this DOES EXIST) and other -isms, but most people try their best to feel you out in the moment and experience the unique individual… Read more »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrIMX1j5KI
@Blax
I hated how big phones were getting, then I found this. I’ve had mine for about two months and love it.
As for typing on smaller screens, if you’re on Android consider using the gesture topping mode if you don’t yet. It sucks on bigger screens but it’s pretty amazing on smaller ones or if you have big hands.
I like this Steve McQueen better. Before Fast and Furious and even the Seven Ups. Stevie did his own driving and there was zero cgi.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31JgMAHVeg0?feature=player_detailpage&w=640&h=360%5D
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk9SZbrh_Tg?feature=player_detailpage&w=640&h=360%5D
Buuuutttt… If you’ve never driven a muscle car hard, lol, this won’t really move you.
‘Murica
@ Sun
Thanks for the tip. I am an android guy and I have an ancient exhibit that works flawlessly, but is too old to even update now. My girls have s7’s and iphones ( I hate iphones…).
I’m gonna have to bite the bullet and upgrade. There’s a Sony store in the Mall that I frequent, adjacent to T-Mobile lol. I didn’t even know Sony had phones.
Def worth a look.
@Blax I didn’t even know Sony had phones. They were under a joint venture with Ericsson as Sony Ericsson from 2001 to 2012, then Sony bought the whole shebang. They’ve been just straight up Sony since then. And the Sony stores make me laugh whenever I see them. They want soooo bad to be Apple, but it just ain’t happening. The one in Dallas closed about a year or two back, which didn’t surprise me. There was never anyone in it. Most of their products are like paying an Apple price without getting the Apple level of cool, hence the… Read more »
@ Sentient Like your list. Guys will have their variations and it is all good. Some guys like strawberry, some guys think it’s the demon fruit. I’ll tell you something that developed for me a few years ago, and it just confirms how great it is to be a man. I’ve never been a huge fan of blondes. Not that I didn’t like blondes, but that I never felt the instant attraction and pull because of hair color. I have friends to this day that are natural blondes, so it’s not a total aversion. Maybe it’s because I don’t like… Read more »
@ Sun
Lol, yeah- the Sony store is empty most of the time I’ve ever noticed it too. They don’t even advertise phones in the storefront. I’ve only seen giant TV’s and headphones from outside the store.
I wonder why the hell don’t they spend some cash and advertise?
The Apple store is downstairs, and it’s always packed, but many of the people looked pissed off .
I looked at the prices on Amazon, and yeah they’re pricey, but I need to go and put my hands and eyeballs on one at the store.
@sun
Aren’t you gonna argue with Ya’ about door holding? Wtf man..
@Tuff
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/122/467/mentalfailure.tumblr.jpeg
Okay, I’m getting ready to bounce for the evening. I have a stupid question, but I can’t gain understanding if I shy away from stupid questions. The term ” high value ” is used quite often. Every time I read it I am not quite sure what it means. Like when guys say ” display high value “, what does that mean? Or if you’re talking about a ” high value woman “, what’s high value about her as opposed to any one else? Stop laughing at me, I am serious. What I think is that even though 20 guys… Read more »
…lol Sun.
U make me think about moving to Dallas…. even though I hate Texas heat.