Outrage Brokers

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.” – Mark Twain

Well I finally had a chance to watch Roosh vs. the bloggers – there are no journalists left in the world – debate (it was anything but a press conference) and it was about what I expected. Every opportunity these bloggers had was to call him on his beliefs and his position on the state of the world with the intent to dismiss, marginalize or ridicule him.

By my estimate, there wasn’t a single blogger present who was older than 30 and each took turns couching their questions in terms that would challenge his perspectives with respect to their own. They weren’t there to report; they were there to debate questions they’d already written their own answers before going in because, like Roosh, they live and die by the impressions their readers/commenters. Roosh tried to classify them as ‘establishment’ or ‘the media’, but in reality they are bloggers – ‘journalists’ in name only. What they really are is outrage brokers and together they have a symbiotic relationship.

Roosh manufactures outrage, they distribute it to the cubicle workers who want to feel engaged in a world outside their cubes. Roosh cancels the meet ups, the cube workers feel like they’ve won a battle with edgelord shit-head misogynists and the Rooshites (preemptively) declare a victory for raising awareness of the ‘free speech’ Social Justice Warriors want to curb. Ding, ding! Return to your corners for the next round.

All this does nothing to benefit men in the Red Pill awareness even marginal Roosh proponents want to believe is the good that comes from this circus. “At least he’s raising Red Pill awareness. Any press is good press, right?”

Wrong. Ask Subway if they think the press their spokesman Jared Fogel generated with his 15 year sentence for child pørn charges was helpful in raising awareness of how great their sandwiches are. Not that anyone is boycotting Subway sandwiches, but likewise, no one’s minds are changed after Roosh had this presser. Not the bloggers or Twiteratti that hate him, not the Neomasculists who were already onboard with him and certainly no one that’s never heard of the ‘sphere in a public fashion.

Team Roosh and team SJW are still what they are. The fact that we get women and men IRL who know about this “leader of some MRA group who wants to legalize rape” should be evidence enough of the reach this quick hit, easily digestible ‘outrage bite’ has.

It’s easy to say that fence-riding men who’d never heard of the manosphere (the manosphere Roosh disowned, remember?) will be made aware of it and embrace it, but that’s a convenient and unmeasurable metric to justify what really amounts to a very damaging PR fuck up. Or maybe it wasn’t a fuck up? Maybe it went exactly as planned; maybe even more successful than planned.

Let me be clear, this is not an apologetic. Roosh masterfully turned (intentional or not) this to his advantage by playing all the bloggers present in the room to his narrative on his terms. He did exactly what he should’ve – no apologies, no admissions of guilt, and he forced these tools to play the cards he was dealing. He was handed a golden video op on a silver platter by these young journalists bloggers who knew going in that they were compromising the “journalistic integrity” their communications class teachers told them they had.

My concern isn’t how he handled this, it’s why he put himself (and other men who admire him) into this. My concern is that any genuineness he might’ve had about Neomasculinity is suspect of being just a vehicle for his own notoriety. If that’s the direction he’s chosen to go, if that’s how he’s decided to turn a dollar, I wish him good luck, but he’s become a dishonest broker of outrage at the expense (in some cases physically and financially) of the men who believed he was sincere.

If you read through the Deadbedrooms or Divorce subredds, there are countless men there who would save or change their lives if they embraced Red Pill awareness, but for whatever reason they get violently hostile at any mention of a TRP solution to their circumstances. How many of these fence-riders will look at Roosh and just have all those biases confirmed about TRP now?

Roosh is just playing a character now; one that the outrage brokers want and need:

I wrote about exactly this dynamic on Return of Kings in the only guest post I ever wrote for the site:

If the “postponement” of the ABC 20/20 manosphere “exposé” has taught us anything it’s that the writers seeking to cast light on the manosphere are looking for crazy. They need crazy because it’s the only thing they know how, or have the patience, to confront in as minimal an effort as it takes to type a few paragraphs dismissing it as misogyny.

Writers (vichy male writers) like R. Tod Kelly are also lazy. They see an opportunity for outrage that sells advertising. They wanted Stormfront and what they got was a global consortium of rational, well reasoned men with jobs, families and intelligence, men from all walks of life, all ethnicities, and socioeconomic backgrounds expressing ideas that don’t fit into an acculturation of feminine primacy.

If you read Matt Forney’s 20/20 interview post you’ll see the desperation for crazy in their producer’s attempts to provoke him to become what they think he should be – a frothing, angry, hate-fueled misogynist. That would make it easy for them, they know how to sell crazy. The copy gets approved, the crazies get marginalized and we move on to the next Mabeline commercial.

But they didn’t get crazy from Matt, or Roosh (okay Paul Elam looks a bit like Charles Manson in a certain light)—they got well reasoned, sensibility that was hard to argue against, so they attempted to prompt the crazy by barraging Roosh with questions about rape in the hopes that he’d blow up. He wouldn’t. They wanted it to be easy. They wanted to know all they needed to know about the manosphere by sourcing Manboobz, interviewing three manosphere bloggers and then trot out the crazy, show off the carnival freak, demonize and marginalize him and frog march the crazy off the stage. They wanted fringe, the easy kind of fringe that their journalism, communications and women’s studies classes taught them the easy answers to confront it with.

But the manosphere isn’t fringe. For as much as R. Tod Kelly, or the producers at ABC would like it to be, the manosphere is too broad, too comprehensive, too diverse for anyone unfamiliar with it to really understand it, much less deliver an unbiased objective opinion of it. So Kelly follows formula and makes the same lame attempts at simple aspersion and misogynistic dismissal 20/20 had already failed in doing (as evidenced by their segment’s postponement). The Daily Beast wanted its formulaic red meat, but Kelly is just dishing out ABC’s cold left-overs.

The MSM wants crazy. Crazy gets clicks. There was a time Roosh would’ve responded with far more measured and reasonable responses to these allegations, now he’s found it necessary to adopt the crazy that the MSM wants. He did it artfully, but he’s given them the ugly caricature, the black & white melodramatic misogynist who’s easy to hate.

They want a villain, a misogynist, a chauvinist, a caveman and a guy easily ridiculed in a feminine-primary social order and it appears Roosh is more than happy to give that to them if it means he can profit from it.

The problem with delivering the crazy is that Roosh does so at the expense of men who would otherwise benefit from genuine Red Pill awareness. I approach Red Pill awareness from a bottom up perspective because it is important that men effect real change in their lives and their thinking on a personal level.

I disagree on many ‘doctrinal’ tenets of Neomasculinity for any number of reasons, but the core Red Pill principles Neomasculinity appropriates are still there. Roosh does Red Pill truth-seeking men no favors by making a mockery of those very core principles he claims for the basis of Neomasculinity with his readiness to play a dangerous game with those men’s lives for his personal benefit. All Roosh does in playing this character is polarize men into a team mentality with no real change beyond an Us vs. Them shift.

It might feel good to rally and shake a fist at SJWs and feminists, but it does nothing to educate a man with Red Pill awareness so he knows why he’s in the social conditions he finds himself with women and a large feminine-centric social structure. That takes far more effort and personal investment in that man than simply recruiting him with an easy cause and an easier enemy to hate.

Roosh calling for public meet ups on a RoK six weeks in advance on a site that claims 1 million unique hits a month is not just “a chance for likeminded guys to get together for a beer” it is the bait and the time needed to draw a response from exactly the opposition he’ll complain is out to get him when they predictably do. Granted, that opposition took the bait as predicted, and along with it the outrageous capital he’d hoped to generate, but he’s only going to be able to cry wolf like this so many times before he marginalizes not just himself, but the validity of Red Pill awareness.

In fact that may be forthcoming sooner than he expects. Of course the outrage brokers he hopes to offend will be more than happy for the blog fodder, but at some point he’ll become passé and like PT Barnum he’ll be forced to up his game due to people rolling their eyes at another one of Roosh’s set ups. This is the same formula he’s been using since the London stop of last year’s world tour; he’s got to go bigger on the next push to keep the interest going.

Satire and Irony

 

Roosh suggesting the legalization of rape on private property wasn’t satire. It was irony, it was juxtaposition to expose a counter point – that women need to accept at least some responsibility for the consequences of their sexual indiscretions – it was illustrative sarcasm, and it was an allegorical thought experiment, but it was neither satire nor parody.

It was an essay in exposing the duplicity of women’s hypoagency – the idea that certain individuals (e.g. women) lack agency in their own actions. They lack control. They are not actors … rather, they are acted upon. The corollary to that argument being that they are not responsible for their own actions. Yet the cultural narrative of the omni-empowered, Strong Independent Woman® is completely at odds with exactly women’s hypoagency with regard to rape. They are powerful and purposeful when it serves and entirely unaccountable and blameless when it’s not convenient.

There was an “entirely serious” article written by Femitheist (on Vice no less) not long ago ‘suggesting’ the systematic culling of 90% of the male population. It turned out to be less-than-serious, but it was written in the same vein as Roosh’s rape legalization “satire” to illustrate a counterpoint.

Difference? A woman wrote it.

If a woman had written, verbatim, what Roosh had, the irony wouldn’t have been intentionally missed. There would’ve been some friction for suggesting rape is any woman’s fault, ever, under any circumstance (hypoagency)  – and it would be even more salient had an anti-feminist woman wrote it – but readers would’ve gotten the gist of the irony. Just as they eventually did with Femitheist’s article.

If a homosexual like Milo Yianopoulos had written it, he’d have been met with the same friction, perhaps even more censorship at his speaking engagements, but readers would’ve gotten the irony – and with a giggle because he’s a cheeky Brit with fabulously gay bleached hair.

Outrage Sells

We live in an age of outrage media. I’ve written in the past about how women need indignation as part of their innate solipsistic make up, so it follows that in an era where men are feminized to the point that they think wearing skirts and heels are a legitimate form of protest against mass rape that fem-men would also lap up the same indignation. They lap it up because they identify with the feminine, with being women themselves.

All one need do today is search for “Rapsit beaten by” on YouTube or Google to see just how far that rape hysteria has ensaturated society. Label a man a ‘rapist’ in the slightest degree of seriousness and you have carte blanche to kill him or destroy his life and livelihood. No doubt Roosh is aware of this judging from the volume of death threats he’s received for the mere perception that he may be a rapist or the oblivious lack of critical thought that he’d seriously advocate for legalizing rape.

He knows this because he’s written, in my opinion, one of the most insightful essays on exactly this social order – The Most Insidious Method of Control Never Devised.

Roosh wrote the seminal essay on how insidious the threat of “stealing a man’s bread” has in controlling his decisions and silencing him. This is why it pains me to see Tweets like this after so elaborate an effort of publicity at the potential cost of other men’s bread – men who believe in the sincerity of what’s only a vehicle for his notoriety now:

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/696825522727317504

I had to reconsidered doing this breakdown of Roosh’s very blatant attention trolling at the expense of anyone who would’ve thought his intents were genuine about organizing a world wide meeting of the tribes. I’m in a difficult position here.

By posting I get tagged with not being cooperative to the manosphere on whole by exposing Roosh for the marketeer he’s regretably turning himself into. On Twitter and the previous thread I get accused of cutting Roosh off at the knees for not being a team player because “any press is good press” (false) and even if he is the Svengali he is, well, at least the ‘sphere is getting some spill-over publicity.

I say that’s bullshit, and then I’m reminded of my own reasons for involving myself in writing what I do and who I write for.

Not only is it bullshit, but it’s bullshit that damages the capital that the ‘sphere collectively has developed for over a decade now. Roosh isn’t making any new converts to Neomasculinity or anything else with this, and while his epic trolling of SJWs and fem-stream media bloggers deserves the highest praise, it’s regrettable the cost should come from men who are genuinely looking for the answer Red Pill awareness provides.


 

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10x10
10x10
6 years ago

@Blaximus Take it up with the scientists. This comes down to hereditarianism vs environmentalism. And the racial hereditarians have way better arguments and data. (See Molyneux video below.) @YaReally Have you ever heard of bell curves? Or regression to the mean? Or physical anthropology? You’re out of your depth. Stick with negs and disqualifiers and deconstructing Owen Cook’s every word, etc.. Or you can start to educate yourself. Here is a good starter for you and all the other race deniers; ie race creationists: https://youtu.be/CZPsXYo7gpc And Molyneux is not an alt-right guy. He just follows the data. It would be… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Nothing is forming. There is no new founding father of anything. Roissy is a guy with a blog and an opinion. If you like facts, do some deep, hard research, and stay away from ” leaning ” sources. Find out who ” hates ” the middle class. truth has no ” sides “. Intelligence indeed. Why do you think most police departments are being militarized? Was it ” liberals ” or ” conservatives ” or ” polo players ” that started the whole push? Or was it the rich and powerful? Playing both sides against one another. Hot damn, oldest… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“Your skin color will not save you, or make you immune.”

I don’t expect to survive it.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

” Blaximus

Take it up with the scientists. This comes down to hereditarianism vs environmentalism. And the racial hereditarians have way better arguments and data. (See Molyneux video below.)”

And there it is. The gold standard.

Lol, fuck Molyneux. You worship him. He’s just a dude to me with an opinion and a youtube video.

Here’s a youtube video. There’s millions of vids on youtube.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J—aiyznGQ?feature=player_detailpage&w=640&h=360%5D

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Okay. That’s enough of this boring ass bullshit for one day…

stuffinbox
6 years ago

According to some geneticists blond hair and blue eyes developed about 10k years ago due to quicker assimilation of vitamin D in northern climates.Pardon my language but if a white guy could look up his 60k year family tree he would see a coon up there and not very far up either.Racialist racist potatohead pototohead.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Blaximus

Banks want get free shit.

ZIRP isn’t exactly putting free money in pockets other than those that already had a shit ton of money in them. Rent extraction that just cuts out the middle man.

10x10
10x10
6 years ago

@kfg And then there’s Vox Day, a libertarian with a degree in economics who may have improved upon the Austrian model and, rather interesting, a non-spiritual Christian. He’s no libertarian. And he didn’t “improve on the Austrian model” lol. He’s a died in the wool neo-mercantalist putting forth recycled protectionist economics that he learned from arch protectionist Ian Fletcher. Vox Day wouldn’t last two seconds in a debate with trained Austrians like Robert Murphy or Hans Herman Hoppe. I agree with some of the ideas that Vox holds and I love his hatred of the Left. More people on the… Read more »

10x10
10x10
6 years ago

Pardon my language but if a white guy could look up his 60k year family tree he would see a coon up there and not very far up either. What’s your point? Think about what you just wrote. There was significant evolutionary adaptation to a colder environment that affected skin and eye color. Now ask yourself why evolutionary pressures are forbidden from effecting brain tissue. Is there some magic ray shield around the human brain and only the human brain? Or maybe, just maybe, what we see is intra-species differentiation? I know this stuff is unpleasant, but if you want… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

Welp, this has devolved in to a shit show.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@LeeLee February 9th, 2016 at 3:47 pm The way I see it your friend would do well to just be feminine and kind to her chosen partner (man) at the time. She should choose her partner wisely and treat kindly. The red pill is not a sexual strategy for a single woman. It can enhance a LTR/marriage with a good man. (cough,….Deida) I do think the red pill helps someone like you treat your husband more kindly because you are not entirely duplicitous and adhere to the innate hindbrain female stages of manipulation in an LTR. It is not wrong… Read more »

Razorwire
Razorwire
6 years ago

“You could never get a feminine woman to be FOR Roosh. The more feminine a woman is the more likely she would burst into tears, internally crumble or vomit if she was exposed to his writings.” Roosh is a caricature. The man Roosh has made it easy to demonize the character Roosh. But its a stretch to assign some relationship between femininity and being “FOR” this character or not. Roosh the caricature is probably not attractive to most women, feminine or otherwise. Hell, most men are not “for” Roosh. As for his writing, he is not writing to ease the… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Hey!!!! Sun!!!! Hold the door!!!!!

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
6 years ago

“Also, hint-hint, taking such a position reveals a weak intellect so it should signal one to question the other views/positions of a racist. It’s not just that racism is morally wrong, it’s also stupid. “
Well gorsh, glenn, that sounds pretty scientifical to me. I’m convinced.

(extry hint hint: I’m (just about) not a Rayciss, although the Lord knows why, it’s all the fashion hereabouts. But I go all-in on sanctimonious Indignation-mongers and Mau-Mau race-hustlers. To the ovens with the fuckers!)

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
6 years ago

“Pardon my language but if a white guy could look up his 60k year family tree he would see a coon up there “ Oh no we wouldn’t [/panto] Sure, you’re referring to La Brana (from Iberia and not that far from Mauretania. But, (pace R Khan) a more scrupulous examination of SHG/ANE evidence from e.g. Motala would present an entirely different picture. Long story short? White folks are Wite, cuz they haz to. Or die. Like them damn ko-reens an shit (granted, via other mutations). In fact, I do believe the *cough* somewhat mercurial Mr Khan has a recent… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@Razorwire

Damn, that was well said.

“The sympathy-pity that RP dabbling produces in women is hardly a goal of these places nor does it likely inspire real change in their choices, nor does it provide actual insight into the male experience beyond those superficial ways akin to a female reporter assuming which man is a lineman and which a kicker by hanging around in the locker room after the game taking interviews.”

Yep, the last time I checked the manosphere came up as a male space to advance the MI.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Have you guys seen the transcript of Roosh’s press conference?

CH and Vox Day posted about the transcript. The link below at Vox is just the transcript.

He certainly could have presented himself better. Better voice intonation. Slower. Said less in a Law #4 kind of way. More vague, open-ended, and sphinxlike to appear more in control.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/02/transcript-rooshv-press-conference-6216.html

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Oops. Forgot to mention I’m not advocating for Roosh. But every one man (or woman) should employ tactics to advance their mission with mastery. And I don’t believe Roosh is being masterful enough even though he has shown skill, at times, in explicating this or that. (And Neo-Masculinity is laughable. Even I can do neo-masc on autopilot.)

stuffinbox
6 years ago

Throughout the course of recorded history the ruling class has culled the intellectuals from the working class and discouraged crossbreeding to keep the intellect in check.Even to the point of castrating the intelligent and making them scribes and advisers or house servants.So at this point I would speculate that the process of evolution has been tampered with and still is being done so. In the last century a new phenomenon the,giving of a panther size education to a mostly pussycat brain.Whereas The majority of modern society has been educated beyond their own capacity for intelligence. Leading to such activities as… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“In the last century a new phenomenon the,giving of a panther size education to a mostly pussycat brain.”

http://www.gutenberg.ca/ebooks/leacock-toomuchcollege/leacock-toomuchcollege-00-h.html

http://www.preservenet.com/theory/Illich/Deschooling/intro.html

YaReally
6 years ago

@10×10 Like I said there might be differences, and probably are, but they’re insignificant and can be easily overcome with cultural programming and education. When you say “but in the ghetto black people are all shooting eachother” that’s because in the ghetto they have shitty cultural programming going on, the black guys in a better cultural environment with better programming (like the white-washed fully assimilated minorities I met growing up in small primarily white towns) aren’t going around acting like street gangstas. Take a black, white, brown, asian dude and put him alone in a small white town and he’ll… Read more »

walawala
walawala
6 years ago

@YaReally Great infield video. I do practice much of this stuff with great results. One comment and one question. The comment is that the minute you in any way “blink” or hesitate in that pick up or interaction, I’m sunk. Tyler is chanting “Calibration” yes. The second part of my post is a question. I’m having a lot of success recently in number closing, even getting one or two dates. I’m not hesitating, I’m constantly teasing the shit out of hot girls. But I’m finding in a few cases they just flake, lose interest, or stop responding. I now adopt… Read more »

stuffinbox
6 years ago

@KFS
Good links thanks.

recidivist
recidivist
6 years ago

I’m still confused as to how Roosh’s ‘asshole game’ antics make all Red Pill & Manosphere men ‘look bad’ or even worse, mostly because Main Street Society & Media already despise us for challenging the official gynocentric narrative about female primacy & male disposability.

Again, I ask, how can things get any worse for us when ‘All Men are Rapists’ because Misogyny, Patriarchy & Male Privilege?

YaReally
6 years ago

@walawala “The comment is that the minute you in any way “blink” or hesitate in that pick up or interaction, I’m sunk. Tyler is chanting “Calibration” yes.” ya, what you feel she feels. If you hesitate that shows her that you’re uncertain that she should like you, which she reads as “I don’t know why I shouldn’t like him, but he would know better than I would so I’ll trust his judgement”. Same as how preselection works in the opposite direction. Women ping off their environment to know how to feel, that’s why they have a lot of groupthink and… Read more »

YaReally
6 years ago


Reply in mod with the answers you’re lookin for lol watch this space!

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“In the last century a new phenomenon the,giving of a panther size education to a mostly pussycat brain.” I haven’t read KFG’s links except the premise of the first and I can imagine the theme. The pussycat brain can indeed become panther sized. By a person becoming self possessed, having his own mental point of origin and subscribing to the mindset that everything matters. Midway in my education I was horrified in a couple stratas of my formal education when my classmates questioned “why does this have to be so hard?” Why do we have to go through this shit… Read more »

cheupez
6 years ago

Race is real. The differences are real iq and all. But when it comes to the person? A woman will take your iq and shove it up your ass. For real. She don’t give a shit. She don’t. One man bleats senseless how black he is. No woman will fuck him for just being black as coal or brown whatever other shade of dusky. Bleat senseless how white. No woman will fuck for that. Women will fuck us for being men.

YaReally
6 years ago

@Rollo

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/697291119911161856

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/697291505250213889

…it’s totes about helping men though.

As fun as his press conference was, I can’t imagine him being able to hold another one. Journalists will see the first one and be like “well there’s not really any point going, he’s just going to make another speech about us” But who knows, maybe that gets clicks and is worth it. Is he already signed up for Dr Oz part 2? lol

YaReally
6 years ago

@Rollo
lol samesies!

YaReally
6 years ago

@10×10 “The ultimate PUA turned shitlord. If you think Roosh says controversial things, check out Krauser. Roosh is a leftist compared to him. Full 14-88. lol I just hope that the British don’t throw him in jail.” Holy shit I only saw Krauser’s RVF meltdown, I didn’t know he’s gone full out Stormfront: https://twitter.com/Krauserpua https://twitter.com/Krauserpua/status/696850991304597504 https://twitter.com/Krauserpua/status/696767510910214144 https://twitter.com/Krauserpua/status/696335393101373440 lol wut am I reading I can’t even You’ll NEVER see this kind of shit from RSD lol But that’s probably why the RSD guys skip around with a smile on their face while guys like Krauser and Roosh write angry bitter shit.… Read more »

walawala
walawala
6 years ago

@YaReally Thanks.. i’ve now become much more direct: “if you promise not to burn down my kitchen, let’s cook together”…. it’s like Art of the Deal.. After a Day 1 or drinks… I invite them over the next time. It does two things: 1) weeds out the time wasters 2) makes my intent clear. But in the process I’ve lost some hot young prospects. But as Tyler says…don’t be a ‘doormat’. Nice guys are manipulative. Solid. The frustation comes in having a solid winning streak then a series of flakes which leads me to my question above. My interactions and… Read more »

Niko Choski (@nikochoski)

The Roosh antics are all there for one reason only – attention. Attention makes the fucker money and that’s the ultimate goal. The fucker doesn’t give two shits about any man or helping men in general. I am pretty sure at this point that he does not give a shit, even as a self proclaimed PUA to get men laid at present. It’s all about “me, me, me…” for Roosh at this point.

YaReally
6 years ago

@walawala Scanned Krauser’s year-end results calculation post and hit the comment section and saw your comment and wanted to point out two things, one is actually for Krauser but I don’t post on his site (feel free to link/post it to him) and other guys are probably running into the same thing right now so this is partly for my archive and future guys running into these same issues lol For both you and Krauser: Very specifically pay attention to the infield “picking up an alpha female” I just linked from Tyler and Julien’s PIMP infield (watch the videos on… Read more »

walawala
walawala
6 years ago

@YaReally Epic post.

hoellenhund2
6 years ago

I’m thinking about experimenting with wearing a fake wedding ring and trying to pickup. Not even actively mentioning a wife, unless asked.

That’s just asking for trouble. You may end up turning yourself into the target of a miserable woman’s rage and retribution, because she’ll convince herself that she was terribly “wronged”. You may end up putting yourself in a world of hurt. And for what? It’s not worth it.

hoellenhund2
6 years ago

”Try not to forget that Roissy has been CH for years now because of the dust up between him an Lady Raine back in 09″

I vaguely remember that she semi-doxxed him.

There was no need to doxx him. He had earlier revealed his real name twice in interviews, and even posted the links on his blog before deleting them.

hoellenhund2
6 years ago

LMFAO.

I tried to read this post but It appears someone is really upset because they can’t follow written thought unless it is at 5th grade reading level.

MGTOW??? LMAO..again.

Waste no time on it. Xsplat is just another standard anti-MGTOW internet howler.

ColinMacLaren
ColinMacLaren
6 years ago

Rollo is stating that the journalists that followed on Rooshs invitation were actually just a bunch of young bloggers. This is not true for Europe. Here Rooshs gatherings did make it to many mainstream media and big newspapers and not for the first time. There were even politicians suggesting him being denied to from entering the country. The narrative was that a white guy who whas an confessed rapist (which he is not by any European legal standards I am aware of) is promoting gatherings of white men all over Europe in order to rape women. He was also not… Read more »

YaReally
6 years ago

@walawala One more follow-up note on my notes to Krauser’s issues: Because he does so much daygame he probably doesn’t see this shift as fast as us guys running nightclub game see it. In a nightclub girls are running on pure emotion in the moment most of the time and you’ll see this shit shoved in your face. Like watch girls in a nightclub/bar around 1am and you’ll see most of them pull out their phones and start txting. They’re setting up their booty calls with fuckbois, guys they’ve just met on Tinder, new Tinder guys who messaged them that… Read more »

walawala
walawala
6 years ago

@YaReally Interesting. Puts things into perspective. I meet girls online. It’s interesting now how quickly they’ll agree to meet with the right amount of asshole game. Spark the attraction, then invite them over. So far this year, I banged 4 girls, 2 were in my rotation, 2 I met online. I also met a girl who was introduced to me by a mutual female friend. I gamed her and had a make out that same night followed by her taking me out to dinner, admitting to me she’s married—to which I replied “I don’t care— followed by another major make… Read more »

Mark
Mark
6 years ago

Part of my introduction to the red pill was from Rollos writing. An for that I am grateful.

But tweeting unsubstantiated rape claims about another manosphere writer, is highly questionable, and that’s the kindest words I can use.

The 3 Rs, just became the 2 Rs

Bkilbour
6 years ago

Dude, I think this is pretty cool of Roosh to do. He’s diverting almost ALL negative attention towards himself by doing what he’s doing, leaving us able to raise RP awareness with far less pressure than was mounting. As far as I understand, the condemnation against the manosphere in general has been rising in the past year, but now we don’t have that negative attention – Roosh takes it, people think they are informed, we correct with rational discussion (towards Men), and the only party suffering any loss is the gynocentric world. I understand the drive to seek purity in… Read more »

YaReally
6 years ago

@walawala “it’s all now in the moment” This phrase actually sums up the shift that’s going on in my opinion. Because girls have unlimited orbiters they can just live in the moment. I’ve had girls where they’re into me, we’re txting and getting along great, everything on track, and then they make a demand like come to their place or write them a dirty story or send a dick pic etc and when I don’t they’ll flat out tell me they’ll find someone else who will and I’ll never hear from them again lol Because guys are so expendable to… Read more »

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walawala
walawala
6 years ago

@YaReally. That Sums up what I’m experiencing. Im fighting the scarcity mentality because if I read you right…showing up at a party…gaming or opening a few girls…NOT number closing and leaving …adds some mystery and creates a sense of “did he leave to meet other girls?” Aura of mystique.

Girls don’t “forget” you when you don’t number close them. I think as a game technique it might even work in sparking attraction so if you run into them again they’re asking: why didn’t you talk, dance, drink or greet me the last time?

LeeLee
6 years ago

@SJF & @Razorwire: My sadness over her returning to blue pill or purple pill wasn’t so much about what she would be missing out on for herself (thought there is some of that) as much as it was over the loss of an intellectual ally. But maybe I’m dumb to look for intellectual allies in other women. And you guys are right, RP ideas even delivered in a measured way will simply not be palatable for 95% of women and that’s fine, it’s for men and not for women — but I would personally like to find a way to… Read more »

newlyaloof
6 years ago

@Rollo, I saw that Roosh rape post you tweeted about. I had to shake my head when I read it. Here’s the Cliff’s Notes version: Roosh: “Want me to walk you home?” Girl: “NO!” Later when she “became separated” from her friends (Nice passive speech that avoids any active part on the girls). Roosh: “Want to come join me?” Girl: “NO!” Roosh: “I’ll walk you home.” Girl: “NO!” Roosh: “Can I use your toilet?” Girl: “Oh, you’re so charming and charismatic, despite the constant assholery I just protested, so okay you can come up.” Roosh: “Are you home alone.” Girl:… Read more »

thwack
thwack
6 years ago

“I’m all for free speech and expression but ‘race realism’ is a topic for CH not TRM.” — Blaximus Actually, its not even a topic for the Chateau; Roissey blocks all comments that don’t support the permanent white male pep rally he runs. Half the comments of every thread are from the same guy; most of the commenters are old and bitter; and he blocks all comments from black men. There is no “race realism” at the Chateau because its full of bitches. Roissey is actually doing his readers a dis-service because he pumps his guys up on racism; but… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

@YaReally Enjoyed the Tyler infield with the 21YO on the street. I think he is missing a few things though, that become clear as you get older. he is close… Two that stand out (and for brevity of time today) are thinking the <25YO's have "daddy issues" and the part about the girl thinking he was either intelligent or rich… he missed those. It is not because of any so called daddy issue, and not because of how he is dressed that he therefore much be rich… Owen has gotten to the part of his life where he is exhibiting… Read more »

The Question
6 years ago

Thought this was a very insightful analysis of the recent cause celebre. http://jackmurphylive.com/roosh-meetup-press-conference-return-of-kings/ “Where among us were the basement dwelling social rejects promoting rape and abuse? There were none to be found, of course. Had they taken the time to learn, they would have found what I’ve known all along. Our ranks are filled with lawyers, professors, doctors, hedge fund operators, wall street professionals, teachers, professional athletes, famous authors and even government officials. In fact, we are legion and we are everywhere. We are your brothers and cousins and fathers and boyfriends. We reach out and build communities but are… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@LeeLee “My sadness over her returning to blue pill or purple pill wasn’t so much about what she would be missing out on for herself (though there is some of that) as much as it was over the loss of an intellectual ally. But maybe I’m dumb to look for intellectual allies in other women.” Got it. I’m all for women (except for my wife, lol) seeking out others to employ their sexual and intellectual strategies for their own betterment. For example I want my daughter to employ her best strategy for herself. (For her to choose wisely and treat… Read more »

scray
scray
6 years ago

as someone who is out there in clubs every weekend (not as much as Julien), i am telling you that, especially in all matters cold approach, you need to just pull the trigger. you must not hesitate. it is a FACT that most guys (even guys who hit on women) aren’t particularly great at this. a lot of them rely on a lot of verbal stuff to keep the windows open for longer or on a lot of comfort to keep the girl around awhile so that the windows will open up again, etc. if you can escalate at the… Read more »

scray
scray
6 years ago

oh and also, the race realism/”SPEAKING TRUTH!111!1!!!1 CRUSADE!’ shit is maximum overdrive gay. and it’s one of those things that isn’t worth explaining because like…lol if you’re out there, you get it, if you’re some fringe “PUA” (termed LOOSELY) or some normalphag or whatever, then you don’t. and that’s cool.

Alwaysdiscerning
Alwaysdiscerning
6 years ago

Leelee,
So you don’t really care about your supposed friend’s development and growth, but rather YOU and how her not being red pill won’t give YOU an ally and that 95% of women aren’t as intellectual as YOU. How sad. While you may pounce around like dragonfly and think you are part of the 5% special snowflakes who get it, you don’t. AWALT.

Divided Line
6 years ago

@10×10 “Translation: Young people want free shit.” Make the distinction between goods and capital goods. This is like saying that your employees at the factory you own want “free shit” if they don’t think they should have to pay for the tools they need to do the job you need them to do. An education, for instance, isn’t a good you consume, it’s a capital good, meaning a good you consume to produce goods which people consume. Even if markets are good at matching supply and demand with respect to goods, it’s an open question as to if they are… Read more »

Ludiam0ndz
Ludiam0ndz
6 years ago

@10×10, It comes down to believing whatever helps you sleep better at night I guess. I would recommend that you travel a bit, and read a lot more, but like Ya mentioned, you’re not really about anything other than re-affirming your extreme ego-investment in white genetic superiority. Like Marco Polo visiting China, and failing to notice the evidence of movable-type printing. Folks like you will always discount evidence that contradicts your world view regardless of who/where it’s coming from. What is white anyway? What’s your “racial” lineage 10×10? Irish? German? Polish? Spanish? Greek? They can all claim to be white… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

” . . . your employees at the factory you own want “free shit” if they don’t think they should have to pay for the tools they need to do the job you need them to do.” Requiring employees to supply their own tools is the status quo for those that are not installed in fixed positions, precisely so that the employer doesn’t find himself simply handing out free shit. “An education, for instance, isn’t a good you consume, it’s a capital good, meaning a good you consume to produce goods which people consume.” Make the distinction between business transactions… Read more »

copperfox3c
6 years ago

@Rollo … you know, I was having this same conversation with RedPillSchool last week. It is interesting to see the response from some of the commenters here. We within the Manosphere are so quick to ridicule more liberal folks for failing to call out feminists/progressives/SJWs and their use of “outrage culture” as a bludgeon to stifle debate and attack opponents. Though more and more, those tactics are coming to be seen as something that discredits liberal ideals, even runs counter to them. Yet, when Roosh embraces those same “outrage culture” tactics, we don’t seem to see the danger of the… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
6 years ago

“in the past we didn’t have that much competition, before Tinder, Instagram, Whatsapp, Facebook, txting, smartphones, etc ” from what I see in the young crowd, we don’t really have competition from any of these. what are the young hotties doing on their phones when they can choose any app they want? playing fucking GAMES!! or shopping for clothes. 21-25 crowd is a totally different story. they’re already used up/broken/past prime. for the young guys here, don’t text the under 21s at night. don’t be available, except for fucking. only talk in person. guys with no instagram clean up. and… Read more »

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

@Blaximus on February 10, 2016 at 1:48 pm

oh no, now @Mark will never read you anymore, since you posted a link negative to RooshViral

btw to help out Roosh and your business, I suggest you buy ads on Return of the Onion Rings for your competitors

Divided Line
6 years ago

@kfg

“Requiring employees to supply their own tools is the status quo for those that are not installed in fixed positions, precisely so that the employer doesn’t find himself simply handing out free shit.”

I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. In the case of education, there is an opportunity cost in not investing in it, if the market doesn’t produce an educated population. Who pays that?

Or does the market never fail. It’s magic, apparently.

Make the distinction between business transactions and consumption, as well as between goods and services.

I thought I already did.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Lol. In this case, the enemy is coming for Roosh ( until another shiny object distracts them ) regardless.

Hurt feelings are gonna hurt. Rooshites can rend garments and gnash teeth until the cows come home, or the chickens come home to roost. The latter is more likely in this case. Roosh is collaborating with the MSM either by design, or misfortune…. or potential fortune.

That jail time can be a real bitch though.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ redlight

” oh no, now @Mark will never read you anymore, since you posted a link negative to RooshViral ”

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/60732665.jpg

Lol.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/50646815.jpg

Roosh stood before a group of journo-bloggers and said that no one has come forward accusing him of rape.

Challenge accepted.

If his ” Bang ” exploits were real, this was bound to happen. Stevie Wonder could see it coming.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Divided Line: “I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.” Mechanics have to buy their own tools that can be carried out of the shop. That prevents the employer’s capital expenditure from being carried out of the shop. If a tool cannot be carried out of the shop, the employer supplies it because the mechanic cannot carry it into the shop every day. For instance, at an auto repair shop, the employer supplies the bay, the lift and the air compressor. The mechanic supplies all the wrenches. ” . . . opportunity cost . . .” . . . is… Read more »

Divided Line
6 years ago

Look at the Ghomeshi and Deen cases. It doesn’t matter if you actually raped or assaulted anybody. It’s nothing for a bunch of women you slept with to form a little gossip circle and convince each other that you assaulted them. They’ll convince each other that the very masculine traits which made them attracted to you were actually predatory. An enterprising SJW blogger could make it happen. Everybody has an incentive. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if Roosh ended up falsely accused.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ Divided Line

Precisely.

I admire a little bit of arrogance in the face of accusations, but there are limits. If Roosh’s writing look, even to him, like they could be construed as rape, why boast of never being accused? He’s asking for it. And if some woman sniffs out a payday or 15 minutes of fame/celebrity, it could all go horribly, horribly wrong.

The presser was a bad idea.

There MUST be an ulterior motive for it.

Dr. BC
Dr. BC
6 years ago

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2015/07/07/bill-cosby-why-weren-t-you-outraged/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/47879384.cached.jpg

“It’s nothing for a bunch of women you slept with to form a little gossip circle and convince each other that you assaulted them. They’ll convince each other that the very masculine traits which made them attracted to you were actually predatory. ”

Dang it!!! – Dr. BC

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

” . . . why boast of never being accused? He’s asking for it.”

My only surprise is that it took a day longer than I expected it to.

Divided Line
6 years ago

@kfg “Mechanics have to buy their own tools that can be carried out of the shop. That prevents the employer’s capital expenditure from being carried out of the shop. If a tool cannot be carried out of the shop, the employer supplies it because the mechanic cannot carry it into the shop every day. For instance, at an auto repair shop, the employer supplies the bay, the lift and the air compressor. The mechanic supplies all the wrenches.” Ok, I see what you’re saying. Maybe my example as bad, but the point I was getting at is that if none… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

But, but, Roosh totally pwned the press. All his BFF’s said so….

bob
bob
6 years ago

Roosh is going to be assanged. He doesnt know when to be quiet and lay low. He’s playing with fire. The outraged sjw horded and their globalist media overlords need a sacrifice every now and again to demonstrate their power. The altar may be prepared a la ghomeshi. He is rolling the dice with his own testicles. Brilliant.
He should be on a plane to EE or Tehran.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

The point here simply that young people who want affordable college aren’t asking for “free shit.”

Assume it costs $50K to obtain a degree at a state university. What’s the ROI on a degree in “women’s studies”? IMO it is negative.

Making tution free won’t change that, because women’s studies degrees are bad for civilization. It’s like getting a degree in “random vandalism”.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Divided Line: “Maybe my example as bad . . .” It was just a point of order really. ” It’s just the basic “barrier to entry” problem.” I got a paper route. I used the proceeds to buy wrenches. “It’s not true that the market will force capital to flow to the bottom where it is most needed.” The non-initiation of force principle is not a magical incantation. That is one of the failure points of libertarianism. That’s why I don’t get too involved wondering how our society is going to evolve under the influence of the FI. When it… Read more »

Jeremy
6 years ago

@Mark

The 3 Rs, just became the 2 Rs

Yeah, tribalism is highly productive. Don’t let rational arguments get in the way, just get out there and cheer-lead.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

I’m not anti capitalism, but I’m anti 2016 capitalism. Divided Line is 100% correct in his observations IME. The leak under the sink example is golden. Where we are headed as a nation, is to a place where only the wealthy can ” have “. We all have been taught to love capitalism, so if we get robbed in the name of capitalism, it’s all good. An educated society can be a great thing, crucial to our advancement and survival. Common sense dictates that we educate as many people as is feasible. The cure for cancer or a cold fusion… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ Rollo ” @Jeremy, it’s interesting that in light of Roosh’s notoriety over this and last week that Twitter hasn’t banned his account. CH, Matt Forney, Judgy Bitch and a few other notables have been banned for far less than a rape accusation. Strange.” …. wait for it…. wait for it… Let the accusation gain more steam and it will happen quickly. If the American 24 hour cable news networks get a hold of the story, it will grow geometrically. All of this is still in a relatively small bubble. False accusations ( or otherwise ) will boost this up… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

@Jeremy, it’s interesting that in light of Roosh’s notoriety over this and last week that Twitter hasn’t banned his account.

Especially given the recent creation of the Trust and Safety Commissariate…

https://blog.twitter.com/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-safety-council

Some of the members of the Commissariate:

Anti-Defamation League
Feminist Frequency
GLAAD
Hollaback

Etc.

So, yeah, it’s interesting.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“The leak under the sink example is golden.” And a stitch in time saves nine. A simple problem with obvious consequences and solutions. Society is not quite so simple and obvious. Unintended consequences of simple inputs abound. “We all have been taught to love capitalism, so if we get robbed in the name of capitalism, it’s all good.” Names are a map. If you are given a false map, you are lost. “The cure for cancer or a cold fusion power source may just be in a crib at this very moment, in Boston’s South End.” Or it may have… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

re Roosh’s twitter account:

They have to work out their two minutes of hate first. Suspending him “prematurely” would cut off one of their own pipelines.

They’ll get to it when they’ve raged just the right amount.

Jeremy
6 years ago

@Rollo Tomassi

Strange.

Things like this do make you think too hard about this kind of stuff. It is almost as if the “outrage brokers” (great name, btw), have pre-selected their outrage production facilities to ensure a steady stream of clicks and perennial conflict on an issue that need not be fought over in the first place.

Rollo, I would expect you to get banned from twitter eventually, you’re just too rational and uncomfortable for them.

Sam Spade
6 years ago

I recommend Red Pill men disabuse themselves of the silly notion that the Manosphere is some big wonderful collective where we all have the same interests. Each individual has his own interests, and maybe some overlap. I know this firsthand, from years ago when a so-called “red pill female” roasted me on her supposed red-pill blog for getting divorced. It shocked me then but today I know: HER interests were clicks. My interest then lay in being single. Today I’m happy I did it. There’s a lot to be learned on the different blogs and forums, but the Manosphere is… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

” . . . the Manosphere is one great big Group Trap.”

Or at least the MGTOW Community Paradox.

stuffinbox
6 years ago

Someone has to wash the dishes. This chick took her biker boyfriend home to meet the folks.Along the way she warned him don’t speak at the dinner table whoever talks has to do the dishes.Inside the dirty dishes were were stacked up everywhere,musta been 12000$ worth of dirty walmart dishes. At the table he’s thinking this is ridiculous someones gona say somthing now! So he gets up and bends his girl over the table and fucks her ,silence.So he goes over and bends her mom over the table and fucks her silence.Then he starts towards the dad and dad says… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Alwaysdiscerning February 10th, 2016 at 12:27 pm Leelee, So you don’t really care about your supposed friend’s development and growth, but rather YOU and how her not being red pill won’t give YOU an ally and that 95% of women aren’t as intellectual as YOU. How sad. While you may pounce around like dragonfly and think you are part of the 5% special snowflakes who get it, you don’t. AWALT. Wrong. Totally her prerogative. See a red pill woman admits to her AWALTness and goes with it. Nothing wrong with nexting a girlfriend that doesn’t live in her Frame. Nothing… Read more »

Tom
Tom
6 years ago

Ummm, guys … Concerning James Weidemann and Chateau Heartiste: he is not currently the author of that blog. Here’s what I know of the story: James Weidemann founded and wrote the Chateau Roissy blog under the pseudonym “Roissy in DC” until he started to get careless. And yes, the name was taken from the famous chateau in The Story of O. He essentially outed himself, linking his real name to Roissy in DC in an article printed in Toronto’s Globe & Mail newspaper http://web.archive.org/web/20120420204118/http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/when-players-turn-into-boyfriends/article714983/singlepage/#articlecontent That was the key to an angry blogger being able to Doxx him http://web.archive.org/web/20101221040635/http://ladyraine.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/exposed-roissy-in-dc/ and while… Read more »

Tom
Tom
6 years ago

… addendum,

I’m sure what I wrote is not the last word on the Chateau Roissy/Heartiste history.

Would be glad to see any other info others might be able to add.

We need to maintain the history of our roots.

hoellenhund2
6 years ago

RP ideas even delivered in a measured way will simply not be palatable for 95% of women and that’s fine, it’s for men and not for women — but I would personally like to find a way to communicate honestly about womanhood in a way that restores healthy behavior and attitudes

Waste no sleep over it. It’s simply not men’s job to deliver TRP to women. They cannot do it. You just need to look at what happened to Hooking Up Smart and Just Four Guys. It’s women who’ll have to deliver it to other women.

hoellenhund2
6 years ago

His support really has very little to do with identity politics and everything to do with the failure of neoliberal economic theory. Translation: Young people want free shit This narrative is hilarious. The economic prospects of middle class people have steadily been eroded for decades through outsourcing and other policies. Now things’ve finally, finally got so bad that the political opponents of these policies are starting to gather some momentum, although it’s still unclear whether this momentum is even significant enough to have an impact on the election campaign. But it’s simply dismissed as young people wanting “free shit”. Cool… Read more »

KP
KP
6 years ago

Ya,

aww I thought the asterixes would bold shit.

Why would you think that??? You have to write genuine HTML; you’re a man–how hard can it be?

<i>This will appear in italics</i>

<b>This will appear in boldface</b>

bob
bob
6 years ago

‘Free’ is off-shoring corporate profits, ie. capturing the regulator (govt), and paying less tad thwn aj indiividual. Being able to receive the benefits of an individual but not the responsibilities, ie. externalizing environmental costs to thr greater society. The list of contradictions, standard econ 101, goes on and on.
Bottom line: corporate welfare/entitlement is huge. The rent-seekers rule. The regulators (govt) bob n weave and do smoke n mirrors. Big media does confusion and mis-direction. The average petson is brainwashed, confused or overwhelmed.
Freedom bro.
But for who?

M Simon
6 years ago

I’m proud to say that I have been banned from RoK.

M Simon
6 years ago

Blaximus February 10th, 2016 at 4:43 pm The cure for cancer or a cold fusion power source The cure for cancer has been known since 1974. Cannabis. – Get educated. Even mainstream now suggests it to improve the results of chemo and radiation. With the added benefit of nausea reduction. Results are dose dependent. Cold fusion is unlikely to work as claimed. And even if it does the reaction rates are too slow for much besides warming water. – Get educated. Me? I’m a college drop out (after the first year) and worked my way up to aerospace engineer. –… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

In defense of capitalism: http://classicalvalues.com/2016/01/they-asked-for-equality-they-got-misery/ “Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as ‘bad luck.’” – Robert Heinlein “Concentration of wealth is a natural result of concentration of ability, and recurs in history.… Read more »

Divided Line
6 years ago

@hoellenhund2

” But it’s simply dismissed as young people wanting “free shit”. Cool story bro.”

A lot of older folks who got their foot in the door during better times are in denial about how bad it is now. They just want to look the other way and ride it out until they can shuffle off into retirement. This is the interregnum. My guess it will blow after the next financial crisis, which is due any day now, since we have one every 8 to 10 years. This country is a powder keg.

Divided Line
6 years ago

@M Simon ““Concentration of wealth is a natural result of concentration of ability, and recurs in history. The rate of concentration varies (other factors being equal) with the economic freedom permitted by morals and the law… democracy, allowing the most liberty, accelerates it. — Will and Ariel Durant” The ability to do what? Turn the state into an arm of private financial interests at the public’s expense? If they were truly the fittest, they would be able to see the inevitable storm coming. And yet they almost never see it, if history is any guide. One day they’re aristocrats living… Read more »

hoellenhund2
6 years ago

@Divided Line

Indeed. And they are, of course, also hoping that there’ll be enough useful idiots around to pay the amount of taxes necessary to keep society comfy and safe enough for a pensioner to live in. That’s why they react angrily to the news of young men not working hard enough, not siring enough children, not marrying in sufficient numbers etc.

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