“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children.” – Hillary Clinton
I had planned on using Hillary’s now infamous quote for an upcoming post outlining the distinction between women’s innate solipsism and an acculturated narcissism, but fate delivered me a much more profound use for this quote last week (we’ll get to that in part II).
Before I dig in here I feel it’s kind of incumbent upon me to point out that I in no way align with, nor endorse Hillary’s political or ideological perspectives, and I think it should go without saying that I diametrically disagree with her feminine-primary social agendas.
That said, if you ever need a better quote to explain the realities of feminine solipsism I think I’d be at a loss to give you one. A lot of men, even Red Pill aware men, have a hard time understanding how solipsism fits concretely into the feminine psyche. The social conditioning and upbringing that predisposes us towards an egalitarian equalist mindset rebels against thinking women and men would have different psychological firmware. Equalism teaches us to expect that men and women’s needs share mutual origins and our impulses are so similar that any difference is insignificant.
That egalitarian frame predisposes us to consider that ‘not all women are like that‘ or to disassociate the idea that men and women could be anything but functionally equal agents. As a result we get convenient distractions to confuse our looking for comparatives to should anyone (or thing) challenge an equalist answer.
Simply put, we get rationales like “Oh well, men do it too”, or worse, or any opposite comparison that leads us away from considering the truth that men and women are psychologically, biologically and sociologically different; with different motives and different strategies which they employ to meet their different imperatives. And often these imperatives are at odds with the best interests of the other sex.
Separating Differences
The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies:
For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own.
It is the fundamental differences in either sex’s imperatives, acculturation and biology that creates this conflict. Of course, men and women have come together for each other’s mutual benefit (and love, and enjoyment) to create families and sustain our race for millennia, however, this mutually beneficial union does not originate from mutual imperatives or sexual strategies.
When I explain how women hold an opportunistic concept of love, while men hold an idealistic one, the resistance to accept that observable, behavioral, reality is rooted in a blank-slate belief that men and women are fundamentally the same. So, when we read a statement from a woman (to say nothing of a high status one) such as Hillary’s, we either scoff at the oblivious audacity of it because it is so counter to our (male) imperative’s interests, or we nod in ascension in the feminized belief that what best serves the female imperative necessarily is the best interest of the male imperative.
This is an illustration of the fundamental difference in the interpretation of experience between the sexes.
From a solipsistically oblivious female perspective what Hillary is expounding on here is entirely true. From a perspective that prioritizes feminine Hypergamy above all else, these three sentences make perfect, pragmatic sense. The idea that men losing their lives in warfare would make them victims at all (much less the primary victims) isn’t even an afterthought; all that matters is the long term security and continued provisioning of women and their imperatives.
Solipsism, not Narcissism
A lot of newly Red Pill aware men get confused at my using the term ‘solipsism‘ when I refer to this female-specific obliviousness to any concern – or lesser prioritized concern – of anything outside their immediate existential needs. The confusion comes from men who want for a similar justice to the one I outlined in Our Sister’s Keeper. Self-importance or narcissism would seem to be a more appropriate term for this dynamic, but I disagree.
Female solipsism in and of itself is not necessarily a net negative in the larger scope of human survival and evolution. On the surface that may seem a bit outrageous, but it’s only outrageous insofar as women’s solipsistic natures come into conflict with the biological and social imperatives of men. This solipsism is the necessary result of a feminine survival instinct that’s helped preserve women and their offspring in a violent, chaotic and uncertain evolution.
Recognizing the importance of feminine solipsism is not an endorsement of the anti-social, and often cruel, byproducts of it.
No doubt, men who’ve been on the sharp end of this will grind their teeth at the inevitable narcissism that becomes an extension of women’s solipsism. I’ll agree. Socially we’re living in an era of unprecedented (western) narcissism manifested in a vast majority of women.
At no other time in history have women become more accustomed to perceived entitlements of personal security, ubiquitous social control and relative assurances of optimizing Hypergamous imperatives. At no other time have women’s sexual strategies been of such primary importance to society. However, this narcissism is the result of an acculturation and learned social priorities that predispose women to expectations that border on arrogance. Over recent generations that narcissism has become learned and fostered in women to the point that narcissism is openly embraced as a feminine strength – women believe it’s their due after a long suffrage.
Women’s solipsistic nature however is an integral part of their evolved psychological firmware. Solipsism is the evolved, selected-for result of self-preservation necessities that ensured the survival of our species. As men we get frustrated by this intrinsic nature; a nature that puts women’s imperatives as their primary mental point of origin. As any newly aware Red Pill man will attest, coming to this realization is a very hard truth to accept. It’s cruel and contrary to what the First Set of Books have taught him he should expect and build his life around.
Furthermore, it’s cruel in the respect that this solipsism neither aligns with the romantic, Blue Pill hopes he’s been raised to accept, but also the egalitarian, equal and level playing field ideology he’s been conditioned to believe he should alter his priorities to accommodate for women; and in turn he can expect from women. As I stated earlier, coming to terms with men and women’s differing concepts of love is a tough disillusionment, but this difference in concept is simply one of many a man must come to terms with.
When I wrote Empathy I got taken to task about women’s capacity to feel empathy to a greater degree than do men. It’s not that women cannot feel empathically (a shared experience), my argument was that the idea that women feel a ‘greater’ empathy than men was a social convention with the latent purpose of masking women’s innate solipsism.
That wasn’t a very popular idea. The notion that women are the mothers and nurturers was predictably spelled out, but with regards to empathizing and caring for men the primary concern of women was worry over their own and their children’s well being before that of their men should they become incapacitated. Again, this is a cruel truth, but also a pragmatic and survival based one.
Mental Point of Origin
Women’s mental point of origin begins with their own self-importance, and the overriding importance of their own and their offspring’s survival. I’ve had women readers lambast me that they couldn’t possibly be so influenced by solipsism because they put their children’s wellbeing before their own. However it is just this solipsism that predisposes women to seeing their children as extensions of themselves and their own identities. And the good news is that this dynamic is one reason the human species has been so successful.
The following was a comment from Starve the Beast on the TRP subredd:
Women are bad at reasoning, but good at rationalization.
Let that sink in for a minute. One cannot rationalize without the faculty for reason. So are women really bad at reasoning? No, actually they’re great at it.
The difference is that women don’t place as much value on Truth as they do upon self-preservation, and therefore their reasoning processes do not abort when self-contradiction is reached. They’ll just rationalize their way out of that too, if exposed.
Ultimately, the so-called hamster reflects an underlying difference in value systems more than in reasoning ability.
Women can learn to sublimate their solipsism. In fact, cultures and progressive societies have been founded on sublimating female solipsism. Women can and do learn critical thinking quite regularly. Women can learn and function within a society that forces them to compromise their sexual strategies and mitigates the worst abuses that solipsism would visit on men (and themselves). Women can learn to be empathetic towards men as well as live within a social order that looks like mutual justice and fairness.
But the fact that these civil dynamics should need to be something a woman learns only reinforces the biological and evolved influences of female solipsism as women’s mental point of origin. The parallel to this is men’s learning to sublimate intrinsic parts of themselves – primarily their sexuality – to reinforce prosocial interaction in society.
Women dislike the idea that their experience is colored by solipsism. It sounds bad, and it runs counter to what they believe are sacrifices on their own part to help others. That may be so, and I’m certainly not going to attempt to discount those investments, but they come from a learned compassion that must overcome an innate solipsism. That ‘me and my babies first’ mental point of origin isn’t necessarily a bad thing either – it’s only when that learned compassion and humility are superseded by it that anti-social behaviors and hubris arise.
I expect the predictable criticism will be that men are also self-important, and / or all humans are intrinsically selfish fucks. In part II I’ll elaborate more on this, but for now it’s important to grasp that female solipsistic nature is less about selfish individualism and more about pragmatic survival.
Many a male reader of my Hierarchies of Love series grated against the idea that a conventional model of love would progress from Men to women, women to children, children to puppies, etc. That model is a direct reflection of a uniquely female solipsism that seemingly discards men’s reciprocal emotional investment in women. However it is also the same dynamic that predisposes women to desire men who can decisively control their environment as well as dominate them sexually and emotionally.
In part II I’ll outline more examples of feminine solipsism, how it’s reflected on the individual and societal level and how a man might best use an understanding of it to his advantage.
keyser,
“overt” ?
You like the old ones?
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@scribblerg “While I think what you say about frame is insightful, I don’t understand why won’t grace women with full humanity? They are as fully capable as men are of applying reason and compassion to any situation – WHEN IT SUITS THEIR ENDS TO DO SO.” “My ex – after destroying two men, has a third one in the boat now. The point is that your ex probably doesn’t view herself as a “bad person”. She doesn’t have “full humanity” in that she’s likely not consciously thinking “haha I’m going to fuck these guys over I am an evil bitch… Read more »
YaReally, “Let us know how it all pans out. Personally I wouldn’t reply and would stay dark for a bit longer cause she MIGHT be attracted but she also might be looking for dinner and a ride home since you set the frame that she can get those from you without sex lol So I would be a ghost for a bit so that she knows she can’t just randomly text you and expect you to be available, she has to appreciate the opportunity she gets to be around you since she’s been taking that for granted with her shitty… Read more »
“It’s embarrassing to watch you embarrassing yourself. But enlightening to see what u really think of these men and rpw.” GWTDFT, you protest a bit too loudly, my dear. I know exactly why you are all over these blogs yourself and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that at all, but you don’t get to try to pretend you’re on some kind of noble quest. I’m also going to mention that I’ve been happily married for 30 years now, not divorced and living off half a million of my husband’s money like Red Pill Girl and I am not… Read more »
@longgone “Re: the “saw something that made me think of you” meme, she’s into crystals ( really lol) , wore one to our date and reverently showed it to me haha, and I may just drop this crappy piece of quartz on her that I ran into while cleaning out my storage bin the other day, but not the next time we meet, maybe after I’ve fucked her…” No. She doesn’t get shit till she puts out a few times and EARNS it. Quit being Santa Claus lol It doesn’t MATTER that the quartz doesn’t cost you anything because it’s… Read more »
@longgone (I realize at the end you say maybe after you’ve fucked her, but I want to stress it’s not MAYBE, there’s NO scenario where she gets that thing before fucking you…and ideally not till like the 3rd time she fucks you so she knows it’s not a 1:1 trade of sex:presents…again the value is irrelevant, but again I’m coming at this from the frame of getting her to want to fuck you for you for free VS wanting a sugardaddy pay for play arrangement which a 1:1 exchange would probably help cement, so you can ignore the advice if… Read more »
YaReally,
Got it!
Regards,
Santa Claus
(We ex-family guys are into giving….plus I’m stuck w/ a lot of junk after all the years haha.)
No worries, just a stream-of -(un)conscious baloney I threw out there.
crystals wooooooohoooo! You get what kind of chick we’re talking about here?
“I’m also going to mention that I’ve been happily married for 30 years now, not divorced and living off half a million of my husband’s money like Red Pill Girl and I am not a young bride already seeking tingles anywhere else she can find them, like GWTDFT.”
Rollo’s blog in GIF form:
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@YaReally, alright that was hella funny!
@longgone “(We ex-family guys are into giving….plus I’m stuck w/ a lot of junk after all the years haha.)” lol ya, you’ve been programmed most of your life to give. You literally don’t even view it in the way she does, like to you it’s just “oh I have this thing I don’t value, I should share it with someone who would appreciate it” because you’re a good dude. But a hot young chick is viewing everything through her own lens and a lot of the red pill is about understanding that lens and how it differs from how we… Read more »
@Yareally “I try to deal with the world as it is, not as I wish it was, that’s why this stuff doesn’t bug me.” That’s gold “madonna/whore complex guys. They don’t get that they have NO IDEA what those “nice innocent unicorns” are like in the right circumstances. AWALT.” Explains the trauma in my family with women on point. Hey thanks for being awesome by the way. “I didn’t view myself as deserving better because I was convinced by society that I had no inherent value as a man and women were all on a pedestal.” Holy hell I hope… Read more »
Rollo’s warning @ 7:52pm… Definitely sends the message that women should never read or comment here… it’s just bad all around. There really isn’t anything we can contribute without it seem like we’re attacking or attention whoring…. Or give anything that is taken seriously, and that’s fine. Adios! @IB, I liked you 🙁 , but I can’t believe how crazy you are in your comments on this thread!! Wow!!… if this is how you’ve been for the past few months harassing these men (which I’m guessing it is since I’m seeing you’re still at it) that really is weird and… Read more »
@longgone.
I fuck ANY BEAUTY regardless of age, I’d even fuck Jane Fonda.
Forget about that girl. Save your money and time and go to a high end prostitutes ,for $900 you can fuck three young babes (no game or time wasted).
“There is NOTHING wrong with these men voicing whatever they want to get out in these forums – there are no other places for them to actually do that. Trying to shame them for being angry or bitter at being sold an entire life of lies is disgusting…” They shame their own selves! And yes, there is something wrong with what they are doing, promoting bitterness and hatred, calling ALL women whores and sluts, and portraying us as a sub human enemy worthy of whatever they chose to dish out, is flat out wrong. This is not the behavior of… Read more »
@IB, please copy and paste any instance on this blog where I have explicitly described “all women as whores and sluts” in the comments here.
YaReally, “oh I have this thing I don’t value, I should share it with someone who would appreciate it” because you’re a good dude. But a hot young chick is viewing everything through her own lens and a lot of the red pill is about understanding that lens and how it differs from how we would view the same action.” “crystals wooooooohoooo! You get what kind of chick we’re talking about here?” “Just a standard silly young girl. 🙂 They’re cute to me, but that’s because I know not to expect them to do my taxes. ” All this…!!! I’ll… Read more »
” calling ALL women whores and sluts, and portraying us as a sub human enemy”
Insanity,
Let me be clear here, I LOVE whores and sluts, in fact 98% of women I “made Love” to, wanted me to call them (while fucking) sluts and whores.
Sluts and whores are worthy of my respect, I mean it.
The one who doesn’t give me a good BJ is not a woman worthy of my respect. And trust me, I can tell between a beta BJ and an alpha BJ.
Men are angry at women who gives a beta technique BJ.
“I just fucked two bitches ‘fore I saw you” “Baby I can make that pussy rain, often” That’s from the top album, it’s Weeknd, from the FI Fortress of Toronto If the language of current pop music offends you, then you’re too sensitive for this site too. However if you can handle modern culture, such as it is, then feel free to post here regardless of your gender identity. “fucking tell me something that I don’t know! Stupid cunt!” That’s from the movie Saw III However if you are female and posting here, one might be led to believe that… Read more »
“No gifts for her, even if they’re FREE, until she puts out” Pussy is free. She knows this. The men she wants to fuck know this. Early on, giving it away for nothing made her feel so good. This is her preferred mode and always will be. Giving her gifts under any circumstance (even traditional holidays), especially if she perceives it as reciprocation for sex, sets a bad precedent. Sex is a given and dependent on nothing besides a hard on and this needs to be the expectation from the beginning. To a man with many options, her sex is… Read more »
@fleezer
“Leave marks. Fuck her like you just got out of prison. Never ask for permission. Never apologize for anything.
My wife is a woman.”
https://m.soundcloud.com/casualkimono/closer-to-royals-lorde-vs-nin
Amen
As promised, posted the latest Man Table. Voice audio quality is rough thanks to me derping up my microphone levels and having to consequentially run compression so you could actually hear me without other folks blowing your ears out when they talked. Won’t make that mistake again.
Also, previous episode is still available for those who are interested.
@ sun – listened to first 15 min…great job.
@Sun Wukong
Just got done hearing it. The last part hit home. Thanks for the upload. Hey I’ll try recording the man in the demand conference if I get permission from everyone speaking. Do you have an email or a Dropbox and I can send the audio files to an Saturday?
“IB, please copy and paste any instance on this blog where I have explicitly described “all women as whores and sluts” in the comments here.”
You haven’t Tomassi, although I’ve only read your first book and perhaps a 100 of your posts. I really don’t have very many objections to what you yourself write, in fact, I like quite a bit of it. My objections are usually to how many of your commenters subjectively translate what you are saying.
He’s an amazing man, the precise opposite of so many of you, kind to me, generous, a good father. I actually delight in pleasing him, in serving him, in pouring words of encouragement and praise over him. He is a man worthy of respect, one who never plays games, one who would never perceive himself as so unworthy he has to rely on manipulation and trickery to try to control women. I’m also going to mention that I’ve been happily married for 30 years now Poor thing. Certainly there must be some man in your life that would bang you… Read more »
“Certainly there must be some man in your life that would bang you into the headboard until you see Jesus – And then bend you over the foot-board until you see Jesus again.”
There is. I married him and sometimes the man really does make me see God.
There is. I married him and sometimes the man really does make me see God.
If that’s true (which I doubt), then what you call “manipulation and trickery” is exactly what he’s doing. I like to call it “making a woman happy.”
Been away, and have been catching up on posts and comments. A lot of good stuff, so I wanted to touch on a few things, apart from the main post. First, getting this out of the way: INSANITY BYTES “@IB, please copy and paste any instance on this blog where I have explicitly described “all women as whores and sluts” in the comments here.” We all know she won’t find it, because she is arguing with and ranting at a phantasm in her own mind. Forgot who it was on this thread who said it, but it is entirely true… Read more »
That’s gotta be a thread winner. Here we’re talking about solipsism and the mere mention of a man who is in love with himself is so intolerable to a woman that she openly expresses her desire to murder such a man.
The hypocrisy is stunning.
One last thing… I do not remember who it was in an earlier thread, but someone pointed out the whole red light, green light thing, where women give men pleasant, friendly interactions like smiles, laughs, etc., to gain attention, keep them orbiting, ect., but which are NOT signs of arousal, although men often confuse them (something the women encourage). Thank for that insight, although it’s another little bitter taste of Red Pill and example of the complexity of sexual interaction which is NOT taught to most men. The average guy might get a stare like that, and wonder if he… Read more »
Here we’re talking about solipsism and the mere mention of a man who is in love with himself is so intolerable to a woman that she openly expresses her desire to murder such a man.
lol, I know. Especially when the truth is that she’d breathlessly open her legs for that man. This is what I mean… Women cannot be left to be in charge of their own happiness. At least not in our current environment. This is why a father gives his daughter away in marriage. It’s a hand-off of responsibility.
Not for nothing, but there will always be another IB to take her place. First it was Aunt Giggles who’s faded away into template blog, c&p content, email list insignificance. The it was Sunshine Mary who also played the Christian Red Pill angle until she flamed out, jumped her own shark and now mumbles to herself occasionally on Dalrock’s blog. Then it was Lying Tree, don’t forget her meandering, self-contradictory wall-of-text postings. Now it’s IB who fills the vacuum thinking no one else came before her with the same bullshit. Insanity is predictable because so many have played the role… Read more »
That’s gotta be a thread winner. Here we’re talking about solipsism and the mere mention of a man who is in love with himself is so intolerable to a woman that she openly expresses her desire to murder such a man. The hypocrisy is stunning. So is the stupidity. She are going to kill a guy, and stick him in her ATTIC to rot, allowing the smell to fill her house along with the flies, beetles and rodents, and allow his decomposing juices to drip through her ceiling? Most people would go at least with the basement, or in the… Read more »
She IS going to kill a guy, and stick him in her ATTIC to rot, allowing the smell to fill her house along with the flies, beetles and rodents, and allow his decomposing juices to drip through her ceiling?
I meant to write.
Maybe IB is just trying to save our souls. If we just say is too late, maybe she’ll go away…
And her biggest complaint is we call women whores?
Hey Insanelady: I’m married. Rollo is married. Many other men here are married. Why don’t you give us guys who have taken one for your team a break? You’re preaching to the choir AND wasting your time all at once. The guys here who aren’t dead set against marriage don’t need convincing, and the rest will never convert. And I don’t blame them.
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
1 Timothy 2:12
Actually, I was under the impression that even the married guys here are rather strongly encouraging young men not to marry.
“The hypocrisy is stunning.” Not hypocrisy at all, but rather the cold hearted voice of reason. I’m actually agreeing with our host, from a purely biological standpoint, you either make yourself useful to some woman or she’ll up grade to a better model or simply off you and dispose of the body in her attic. Pure biology and rational thought are cruel truths, indeed. Sorry, but you are not a special snowflake entitled to your mommy’s love just because you think you are cute. That is the biological reality. I happen to believe in faith and a different set of… Read more »
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
He who is under authority has authority. You would not believe how soft and compliant I become, quiet even, in the face of those who have such faith. It’s quite embarrassing really. Truly a pile of mush that simply wants to bake cookies, pour coffee, and submit rather passionately and frequently to my husband.
“…5But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. 6For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. 7For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.…”
1 Corinthians 11:5-7
Trust me, I have authority over you IB.
“11A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness.”
1 Timothy 2:11
Quiet woman, you’re being instructed here. Learn with submissiveness.
@insanitybytes22
Indeed, I agree with you insanity. So, biology being what is is, my dick won’t suck itself, please get started.
“Trust me, I have authority over you IB.”
Only in a blogging context, Tomassi. You are of course free to kick me out anytime you wish.
As to head coverings, may I just say that is quite wonderful to be someone “who is the glory of man.…?” That is not a bad thing at all, nor an oppressive thing, but actually one of life’s great delights.
Bites: Not hypocrisy at all, but rather the cold hearted voice of reason. Yeah, dearie, it’s hypocrisy. You demand and demand and demand of men, and typical of an aging, 2nd stage feminist you give nothing in return but words, empty words. I’m actually agreeing with our host, from a purely biological standpoint, you either make yourself useful to some woman or she’ll up grade to a better model or simply off you and dispose of the body in her attic. Or a man can go his own way. That’s the option that really scares you dearies, the notion that… Read more »
Bites
You would not believe how soft and compliant I become, quiet even,
Correct. I don’t believe such feminist cowshit from a poo-flinger like you.
“Or a man can go his own way. That’s the option that really scares you dearies, the notion that men (unlike women) can function on their own just fine.”
Yes, that does explain why so many of you are prone to accidents, suicide, short life spans, to become victims of homicide or to die in war. Are you really sure you want to get into a competition with women over which gender has the best survival skills?
Personally I prefer symbiosis, the complimentary nature of men and women, to make love not war, but suit yourself.
I don’t feel that Mr. Bytes is exercising his authority over you as well as he should. I command you to give me his email address so I can properly rebuke him.
“Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.”
1 Corinthians 14:34
Okay Tomassi, since you asked so nicely, I’ll leave you in peace. May I comment on part two?
Only if the spirit moves you may you prophesy, and only then if your head is covered.
As long as we’re clear that’s my head that is covered….and no one elses.
@insanitybytes22
Indeed, Insanity, lets make love and not war. So, don’t kill me for loving myself, and instead just get on your knees and let it happen.
Personally I prefer symbiosis, the complimentary nature of men and women, to make love not war, but suit yourself.
It’s that same symbiosis that demands war. Of course that would never occur to a woman.
IB – “Are you really sure you want to get into a competition with women over which gender has the best survival skills?”
Are we talking an airdrop into the wildernes?! Set loose in a foreign country? What kind of “survival” are we talking? Because if its real survival, I’d take my chances against any average western woman alive. I’m old and out of shape but I’d still last longer than any SJW in the wild. Most women in the modern world wouldn’t last a week without power and city water, they’d die of disentary and dehydration.
“Or a man can go his own way. That’s the option that really scares you dearies, the notion that men (unlike women) can function on their own just fine.” Bites: Yes, that does explain why so many of you are prone to accidents, suicide, short life spans, to become victims of homicide or to die in war. Irrelevent, dearie, I was pointing out an alternative to your Borg-style “submit to women or die” interpretation of Mary Daly’s 90:10 proposal. We don’ t have to die at your hands by inches over years of nagging and stress, we have other options.… Read more »
Wait, don’t go Insanity, you still haven’t let me make love to you despite your threat to murder men like me.
You guys are bored, this thread lacking purpose, so the women is taking over. Please, Rollo, can we have Solipsism II?
@lh, Coming today, I’ve got a talk in Vegas this weekend to prep for.
@IB “No shit, Sherlock. And women will rationalize for men beyond the point of all reason, beyond the point of all survival even. Now think about what you yahoos are doing, demeaning women, hating on women because of the blinders we have that allow us to love men, to perceive you as demigods in spite of your flaws. And what do you do with that gift you have been handed? Attempt to exploit it as much as possible, harvesting all you can from women while portraying us as the enemy to ease your own conscience.” —- If you were able… Read more »
Sun Wukong is correct. Wasting our time. Now she needs spelling corrections.
When paying my wife a compliment like “I love the wonderful blow job you just gave me!” I’m being complimentary. A free bonus item is also a complimentary gift. But items or people that go well with each other are complementary.
Staying on topic is easy actually, just don’t respond to IB and her ilk. The open call for killing men for loving themselves was simply too insane to pass up.
That should tell you something, not so much about the men who comment here.. it should tell you a lot about IB. What do humans do when they need attention but feel they’re getting ignored? Yep, that.
“Yes, that does explain why so many of you are prone to accidents,” …most often occurring, by far, doing the vast majority of the most dangerous jobs which keep women fed, warm, sheltered and safe. “suicide,” …as a result of being indoctrinated into believing they have no worth outside of serving women (Blue Pill), like you do. “short life spans,” …resulting from by doing, by far, the most dangerous jobs which keep women fed, warm, and safe, and furthering the bounds of science and civilization which help keep woman fed, warm and safe. Oh, and honey, a short life span… Read more »
Correction:
“You are not best suited for it, and you would have to actually put your own ass on the line to survive.”
Bytes has provided another useful set of examples of solipsism in action. She constantly meanders between her 2nd stage feminist “all men are scum” programming and her internal FI, “SOME men can be useful to me” routine. Hence the false claims of undying loyalty interspersed with the empty threat of killing “useless” men.
It’s like a case study handed to us on a cheap plastic platter.
It should be OK now, I’ve commanded IB to remain in silent submission by my divinely granted authority.
Thanks. I know you got your schedule and will stick to it anyway. And of course good luck and everything for Vegas! I mostly wanted to state what is happening here… But maybe we can get something out of insanity’s lack of faithful behavior? “You either serve a purpose in our lives or you don’t in which case don’t let the door hit you in the behind on the way out.” This is (again) a good example of a female trying alpha. It’s the powerplay of abundance mentality. Insanity isn’t only good as an example of female solipsism, she is… Read more »
Anyway, my concern is how fucking unattractive masculine women are and how common it has become. I wonder what went wrong? The women were lied to. A lie was created that has persisted and influenced the young women generation after generation. They were all told that they “had no power” over men, and that men had “all the power”. They were then convinced that they could still be women while wielding male power. That simply isn’t the case. Women instinctively know it isn’t the case though they deny it whenever possible, even to themselves. It’s not entirely the ladies fault,… Read more »
Rollo,
Me thinks that’s what she was looking for, from the beginning, and why she keeps coming back… the alpha male domination she’s obviously not getting from her husband.
Goes right along with her claims of only being ‘disgusted’ by the commenters. TRM is a uniquely male space where the newly unplugged come to vent & share their stories, fears, failures, anger, etc. Of course this is repugnant to her, hence the massive shaming.
I’m not sure I’d define TRM as a Male Space per se. It’s always been an open forum and I’ve never been opposed to women posting here. I allow for it because to test an idea’s strengths demands an open discourse. The price of that discourse is suffering the occasional idiots and ideologues, but I think it’s worth it because it makes for a better consideration of those ideas. That said TRM is a very hot kitchen and many women’s feminine-primary expectations of being coddled and modulated for by men get stepped on. Most simply aren’t prepared for the unvarnished… Read more »
“It should be OK now, I’ve commanded IB to remain in silent submission by my divinely granted authority.”
……And after much wailing and gnashing of teeth the angry hamster rested.
@NBTM, well if her husband isn’t comfortable rebuking her by authority I’ll have to take over for him.
They were then convinced that they could still be women while wielding male power. That simply isn’t the case. Women instinctively know it isn’t the case though they deny it whenever possible, even to themselves. Amen to that. They build up this make believe hardened shell of invulnerability. The reality is that they are still vulnerable, and instead of admitting it to themselves they lash out like teenagers and take everything personally when a man treats them like another man. If they admitted that they were still indeed vulnerable then it would mean they do in fact need men. And… Read more »
Going along with this women being masculine thing. Anyone else notice women drivers breaking into road rage really easily? Maybe it’s all this holiday traffic, but man… I’ve been seeing a lot of it recently. Usually with the husband in the passenger seat with a sheepish look on his face…
If you can’t handle the heat…
One thing I wanted to mention regarding something I observed while away… I attended a relative’s sweet 16 party. She is a sweet, sweet kid, well behaved, does well in school, and all that, so one does not begrudge her a party. However, and I know this may not be standard around the country, these things have become mini-weddings, I shit you not. There were close to 100 attendees, it was catered in a restaurant complete with court table at front, DJ, photographer, a dress resembling a wedding dress, etc. Again, the relative is a good kid, but the amount… Read more »
“Sites like MMSL, Mark Manson and Evan Mark Katz are glaring examples of what happens when men self-modulate to accommodate women’s feelings. Those male spaces become assimilated by the Feminine Imperative and their financial wellbeing then dictates that pandering to it supersedes harsh, evident truths.” And Rollo, this is why I’d argue that TRM is indeed a male space. I was first introduced to TRP on MMSL and stuck it out as long as I could to carry it forward, until I no longer could stand the insidious ‘assimilation’, as you aptly describe it. “Most simply aren’t prepared for the… Read more »
“That said TRM is a very hot kitchen and many women’s feminine-primary expectations of being coddled and modulated for by men get stepped on. Most simply aren’t prepared for the unvarnished truths here and get upset that my male commenters wont honor their entitled sensibilities.” The truth lights the fires of hell for those hide from it yet illuminates reality, understanding and insight for those who don’t. Hypergamy, female chicanery, feminine victimhood, solipsism……the FI itself is like the emperor without clothes; the elephant in the room. No one dares to risk exposing its truth in a micro personal forum where… Read more »
” . . . these things have become mini-weddings, I shit you not.”
Don’t worry, I haven’t been shit. I’ve seen them. What’s more, I know what they are. They are the petit bourgeois aping of the upper class debut.
The function of the debut, however, is to get the little princess hooked up to an actual prince (arranged by the parents) as quickly and propitiously (for the parents) as possible. Hence the wedding like aspects of the event, it’s the first link in the chain.
The truth lights the fires of hell for those who hide from it yet illuminates reality, understanding and insight for those who don’t.
Mostly in Los Angeles I see spinsters in Mercedes or BMWs who literally act like they own the road. I’ve seen spinsters hang half of their car into oncoming traffic for most of an intersection cycle, and block cars legitimately trying to make their way through, just so they could squeeze into a left-hand turn at the light. I’ve toyed with the idea of driving around Marina Del Rey on weekends with tons of cameras, and start a youtube channel to broadcast this shit. I don’t because while the idea of someone doing this is funny, I enjoy other things.… Read more »
Time for this from Slowhand. Don’t be pretending…pretending to understand.
Rollo I’m not sure I’d define TRM as a Male Space per se. It’s always been an open forum and I’ve never been opposed to women posting here. Well, it’s not “male only” de jure as Zed once suggested Spearhead should be. But… I allow for it because to test an idea’s strengths demands an open discourse. The price of that discourse is suffering the occasional idiots and ideologues, but I think it’s worth it because it makes for a better consideration of those ideas. …the very nature of the discourse, the dialectic that goes on here, favors problem defining,… Read more »
There will never be “tone policing” on this blog.
“There will never be “tone policing” on this blog.”
Kate, I believe that’s your cue.
@Seraph ” Bottom line, it seemed both nature and society push boys to the side, expecting them to battle to gain the kind of recognition girls seem to get by default “. It’s not just boys being pushed to the side my friend, it’s anyone with an XY chromosome. It is a very hard pill for males to swallow, to understand that they must develop and improve themselves for themselves and NEVER to gain recognition from society or women/girls. Women/girls have certain attraction triggers built in. Society as a whole is working feverishly in concert with the FI to extinguish… Read more »
Btw, Rousey is great at fighting other females. At 54, as long as I avoid her damn arm bar, I would jab her into non existence.
Too busy to catch up yet but this is a good example of what I was talking about: “That is the biological reality. I happen to believe in faith and a different set of values entirely, but in the absence of faith women have every right to be totally solipsistic and to suggest we should be anything else is simply irrational.” If you said “I’m gonna kill your husband and leave his body in the attic to rot” she would go “that’s a bad thing!”, or if you said “I’m gonna kill this little girl and leave her body in… Read more »
@IB…
“I married him and sometimes the man really does make me see God.”
“I happen to believe in faith ….”
Here is the truth…..
“believe in = “faith”.
“believe in” = pretend, “faith” = pretend. Both = pretend. There is no other reality about this.
Therefore: “I happen to believe in faith ….” literally means “I pretend to pretend.”
How does IB recognize “God” other than by her own conception? By what other standard can she know she has “seen” “God”?
“There will never be “tone policing” on this blog.” There shouldn’t be… even if it does make it hard for women to contribute at all, tone policing would ruin it for the men here, and it’s FOR THE MEN that this blog was created. And that’s exactly what IB is trying to harass you into doing here – to police their tone, when everywhere else, men aren’t allowed to really speak their minds, even with their blue pill friends (who police them). There are “female spaces” everywhere, where women can say almost anything they want about men – very disgusting… Read more »
@Dragonfly, actually those men’s comments would simply be deleted, held in moderation or they’d be blocked or banned from the “discussion”.
I should add that more than a few “men’s” blogs and forums who claim to be crusaders for ‘free speech’ have had the same practice for years now too.
Imagine, Dragonfly, if a man went into a “female space” and started talking about how he would leave any woman who wasn’t useful to his life in the attic to rot. Then try to imagine that same man acting self righteous and indignant when the hypocrisy of him claiming to be christian and “equalist” is pointed out w.r.t. his comments about murdering “unfit” women.
That’s the level of scum that IB is, if she’s for-real.
@Seraph “Thank for that insight, although it’s another little bitter taste of Red Pill and example of the complexity of sexual interaction which is NOT taught to most men. The average guy might get a stare like that, and wonder if he did something wrong, rather than seeing it like it is, then try to get her back to laughing to ‘ease the tension’.” Yeah, there’s a bunch of things like that – things that are subcommunicated, almost like a code, to test for and ‘activate’ alphas while screening out betas. It’s part of why game can seem like a… Read more »
“Imagine, Dragonfly, if a man went into a “female space” and started talking about how he would leave any woman who wasn’t useful to his life in the attic to rot.”
The issue will not be the females but only the white knights..
” Like, the first few times girls threw themselves at me sexually, I was mostly just terrified because I didn’t know what the fuck was happening or why I was feeling dizzy and shaky and shit (protip – it’s repression of impulses lol) and I thought that if I did anything sexual towards them I’d be violating some sort of trust or taking advantage of them or something. And it takes you a while, or some RP awareness, to realize that THAT’S HOW she seduces you and you’re frustrating her/making her feel bad by resisting her.” Yup, they give you… Read more »
Oh yeah, ” impulsiveness ” when trying to get laid is a very good thing. Most chicks dig it.
Just be aware in the age of ” Yes means yes..or no means yes…or whateva the fuck it’s supposed to be this year”.
The issue with religion in a RP context is how women don’t believe in and cannot understand the ideals involved anyway. The part that used to work on women was moral and social shaming. This part simply doesn’t exist anymore when her friends and neighbors do it all and aren’t afraid of hell or social exclusion. Religion is a useful toolbox for women to bind men by their ideals while it actually doesn’t have any power over them. Insanity a page back is a good example of using religion when it suits her and not caring about it if it… Read more »
Spirituality is good for men. Religion, not so much.
“Spirituality is good for men.”
I used to think that too. And I want to believe I took some profit for my personal growth from that journey. But objectively I have to say those were the bad days of my life. What is causation and what is effect? I don’t know.
“I thought that if I did anything sexual towards them I’d be violating some sort of trust or taking advantage of them or something.” That was a big part of my mentality during my formative years and beyond, which fucked me up good in regards to opportunity and development. I felt I had to police myself, FOR them. Sometimes it was because I was totally attracted to them (looking for a one-itis princess), sometimes I felt it was my chivalric duty or something. Geeesh, I mentally grind my teeth when I think of that former self. I am STILL slow… Read more »
@Andy – “lol, I know. Especially when the truth is that she’d breathlessly open her legs for that man. This is what I mean… Women cannot be left to be in charge of their own happiness. At least not in our current environment. This is why a father gives his daughter away in marriage. It’s a hand-off of responsibility.” Very interesting point of view…I’m inclined to agree…women and ‘their happiness’ is a blackhole which sucks you in and spits you out muttering gibberish, like you’ve been in a Kafkaesque nightmare…maintain frame.you as point of origin. my focus is my mission.… Read more »
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
1 Timothy 2:12″
This should be the other ‘Golden Rule’!
@No-need-to-mention-who-said-this: “I happen to believe in faith and a different set of values entirely, but in the absence of faith women have every right to be totally solipsistic and to suggest we should be anything else is simply irrational.”
Solipsistic female seeks to confuse commentariat by positing that solipsism can be stayed or curtailed by “faith”…and in the same breadth unabashedly displays that she is solipsistic. Continue on with your ‘different set of values’…
Solipsism is women’s firmware. End of!
“@Dragonfly, actually those men’s comments would simply be deleted, held in moderation or they’d be blocked or banned from the “discussion”.” Abso-fucking-lutely. Years ago some feminist author did a ‘review’ of the second Iron Man Movie, ALL done through a Feminist lens. She was entitled to hate the movie, but the ‘review’ was so infantile, so steeped in Feminist ideology gobbley-gook, and frankly so wrong on the facts (she claimed the replacement of Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle was a racist act), I took her to task. Did not call her names, but literally took her review apart piece by… Read more »
@Rollo: “11A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness.”
1 Timothy 2:11
Quiet woman, you’re being instructed here. Learn with submissiveness.”
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It’s just too easy…
@hamstersabound: “Are you really sure you want to get into a competition with women over which gender has the best survival skills?”
You couldn’t make this shit up….
@Blaximus
“ABDY= Always Be Doing You.
Anything you see great numbers of females engaged in, Drop That Shit immediately. Females are engaged in ” feel good/tingles ” shit that only ever serves their purposes. FaceBook? Fuck that shit. Tinder? Please, leave this gynocentric bullshit alone.”
ADDYI= The Female version. The Always Don’t Do You Imperative.
See what happens if you google search for Addyi.
“And that’s exactly what IB is trying to harass you into doing here – No such luck with IB…”
Pardon the interruption Tomassi, but I cannot help myself.
GWTDFT, seriously STFU. Don’t mention my name again. I’m so darn sick and tired of your relentless attacks on other women and your constant attempts to butt in to other people’s business. You don’t know anything about me, and you sure as hell aren’t qualified to judge me. Are we clear?
Ah, ah, ah, back to the shed woman! You didn’t say father may I.
There is gold there. Dissect.
@Seraph
Good, good! First step is recognizing it in retrospect. Second step is recognizing it intuitively, on the fly. Third step is having to balls to act on it.
” …Don’t mention my name again. I’m so darn sick and tired of your relentless attacks on other WOMEN and your constant attempts to butt in to OTHER PEOPLE’S BUSINESS…”
Didn’t somebody level accusations about men here being angry, hurt, mean, etc. etc. etc.
Didn’t that same somebody insinuate that they we’re full of love and caring and understanding and all that jazz?
Okay. I wasn’t gonna comment because Sun was right in most respects, but the hissy fit… Oh Lawd, I could help myself much like IrritableBowel herself.
@ lh “I used to think that too. And I want to believe I took some profit for my personal growth from that journey. But objectively I have to say those were the bad days of my life. What is causation and what is effect? I don’t know.” I dunno man, I just think that spirituality is a good tool in a man’s self arsenal. Naturally it depends on what form of spirituality a man seeks out, but I’m talking about the basics. The idea that there is something/things bigger than ourselves and a way to see our immediate problems… Read more »
“GWTDFT, seriously STFU. Don’t mention my name again. I’m so darn sick and tired of your relentless attacks on other women and your constant attempts to butt in to other people’s business. You don’t know anything about me, and you sure as hell aren’t qualified to judge me. Are we clear?”
It’s night time Mr. Hyde is back.
@Rollo
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I’ve been howling over here at your IB flogging. Black knighting at its finest. Gentlemen, this is how it’s done. Learn from the man.
Non religious women have solipsism .
Insanitybytes is religious with a sanctified solipsism.
Self sanctified
“Spirituality is good for men.”
No, usually not and its the same with religion. Because usually both are indulged hopelessness feigned as hope. Usually they only serve to distress oneself with unnecessary imaginings.
What really is “morality” other than a quite malleable crontived ideal employed as a pawn in the game of human social dynamics?
Spirituality, faith and aspirations of honor do men credit, but ultimately they become thumbscrews of the Feminine Imperative for the average man unaware of their service to it.
“GWTDFT, seriously STFU. Don’t mention my name again. I’m so darn sick and tired of your relentless attacks on other women and your constant attempts to butt in to other people’s business. You don’t know anything about me, and you sure as hell aren’t qualified to judge me. Are we clear?”
Cat fight !
I payed a visit to insanitybytes Blahg, she is taking about the end of the world with her poor husband :
“I shared this idea with my husband and I dare say I believe the poor man looked disappointed, which made me laugh. ”
He must’ve been terrified, especially with the Attic comment.
Stop gaming the poor guy.