Hysteria

In light of the Feminine Imperative having itself capsized over the UVa rape fantasy retracted by Rolling Stone this month, I was reminded of this video and post by Heartiste (Roissy) a few years ago:

Basically, the guy had a few friends follow him around the mall, one guy filming him and the other two guys (I can’t tell if any of his hired guns were women) acting as his “groupies” or entourage. He goes around identifying himself as “Thomas Elliot” when people, mostly women, ask him his name. Eventually, he begins to pile up admiring and gawking female attention, which only snowballs into more female attention. Apparently, not one of these starstruck chicks thought to question if Thomas Elliot was a real celebrity. That’s the power of preselection and fame; so powerful, it can disengage a woman’s neural logic circuitry.

Heartiste goes on to make the prerequisite Game principle  & application observations here, but there is a much larger dynamic in play. While the mall makes for a good setting to test this experiment, it is fairly isolated. A security detail gets assigned to “Thomas Eliot” and even some shops close in order to avoid a crowd panic, but could this dynamic be proven on a larger scale?

This is a very interesting social experiment, particularly when compared to the now infamous (and staged) viral video of Shoshana Roberts walking around New York and enduring the attentions of men she found less than savory. Interesting because they’re essentially trolling for attention from the opposite sex with similar methods, and the results are telling about how each gender perspective generates and reacts to that attention.

Darryl Long made a comment on this topic, and I’ve been considering it for a while now:

On this topic of how women’s attraction changes across their lifetimes I don’t think any analysis is complete without looking at the phenomena of teen-idols. As a man who has sisters and daughters its clear that there is something biological going on with pubescent girls in a way that is radically different from boys. Boys may fantasize about a poster girl, but they never fall over themselves for heartthrobs like Bieber, or Lief Garret, and David Cassidy (in the old days). I’m amazed that many of these teen heartthrobs are more on the fair/effeminate side than masculine. They look like they have good genes, but the most important thing is that all the other girls like them. They are male figures that girls lend incredible status making them even more attractive.

Preselection is a very powerful motivator of women’s hypergamous decision making process. Even the perception of fame (or even the potential for it) is a prime motivator and incentive to lock down a man who presents the hypergamous optimal ideal – a guy who satisfies the sexiness her Alpha Fucks hypergamous needs require and the long term security of provisioning potential from status-confirmed Beta Bucks.

Whether this “famous” guy actually embodies this ideal is irrelevant to a woman’s Id-centric psyche. When women are younger, tweens and teens, this self-convincing is much easier since girls lack any real world experience to reference with respect to what the guy really represents. A capacity for abstract thinking is something that develops as we mature, but the desire to optimize hypergamy is a limbic, instinctual drive for girls and no amount of reasoning can compete with the fantasy of a pre-fabricated idealized Hypergamy.

They want to believe it.

Thus we have hordes of girls and young women willing to go to behavioral lengths they would never consider with the mundane men they’re familiar with in order to just brush with the possibility of  that hypergamous ideal. They will literally climb over one another to realize this.

In a Game sense, preselection (and prequalification or 3rd party endorsement) is a very powerful, instinctual impetus for women. Even in marginal, isolated social settings preselection is an overriding imperative:

Your goal should be to attract women effortlessly, so play to your strengths no matter what they are; there is a groupie for every male endeavor. – Roissy

Mass Hysteria

Once you have a basic understanding of the preselection dynamic and how it is an evolved feature of women’s psychological firmware, the next step is to understand how the power of preselection influences women (and by association men) when scaled to a feminine social dynamic.

Roissy notes from the first video:

Apparently, not one of these starstruck chicks thought to question if Thomas Elliot was a real celebrity.

As I’ve noted in prior posts, perceptions are the overriding imperative of the feminine psyche. It’s not that women on an individual level don’t possess the faculties to discern legitimate social proof, it’s that on a social level they want to believe in that social proof. The estimation of the collective feminine mindset is a powerful influence on the individual woman since it plays on that non-abstract, instinctual need for a pre-verification of optimal hypergamy.

In other words, the effort of sexual-selection vetting has already  been done for them by the feminine hivemind.

Verifying legitimate social proof takes individual time and effort. Perhaps not as much as men have a rational capacity for (the New York stunt fooled more than a few tag-along guys affirming the pseudo-social proof), but for women that opportunity for meeting a hypergamously ideal man supersedes the mental efforts needed to verify social proof. The greater mass of women already believe in the preselection and the intersexual competition is on and overt.

I’ve made the distinction before with regards to women’s preferred communications methods; covert communication being women’s native language, but when women resort to overt communications it’s generally because the content of the  information needing to be transferred outweighs the need for how it’s delivered, or the context of that information.

Transferring information about a man’s preselected approval amongst a collective of women is one such override. However, it’s very important for men living in a feminine-primary social order to understand that social proof is not just limited to preselection of men as potential partners.

This social proof dynamic extends to the perceptions of women in a collective peer group, as well as men for whom they have no sexual interest in, but serve their material interests nonetheless.

The current cultural atmosphere of male suspicion and autonomous rape-threat assessment of men is another variation of this perceptual, hysterical, collective belief dynamic. Women want to believe in the presumption that every man outside of their preselected, collective approved, hypergamous ideal  is a potential rape threat. In other words, a man who might, by force or coercion, assume control of her hypergamous sexual selection.

The narrative, the perception, is all that matters.

And like the women who never had an afterthought as to whether “Thomas Eliot” was the real deal, likewise women become so ego-invested in the certainty of their collective perceptions that, even in light of contrary evidence, the only acknowledged verification of that perception is how it makes them feel.

This contradiction of a collective feminine hysteria is what many luminaries of the Feminine Imperative are now being forced to confront. It’s important to remember during this UVa / Rolling Stone rape debacle that women, and more than a few enabling male sympathizers, wanted to believe this travesty was true in spite of the vaudevillian outlandishments and still refuse to accept that it isn’t.

From Truth to Power:

Denial

The first step to really unplugging from our preconditioning (i.e the feminine Matrix) is recognizing that this conditioning has led to the beliefs we think are integral to our personalities. The psychological term for this is called ‘ego-investment’. When a person internalizes a mental schema so thoroughly, and has become conditioned to it for so long, it becomes an integral part of their personality. So to attack the belief is to, literally, attack the person. This is why we see such a violent reaction to people’s political, religious, inter-social/inter-sexual, inter-gender, etc. expressions of belief – they perceive it as a personal attack, even when presented with irrefutable, empirical evidence that challenges the veracity of those beliefs.

People resort to denial when recognizing that the truth would destroy something they hold dear. In the case of a cheating partner, denial lets you avoid acknowledging evidence of your own humiliation. Short of catching a spouse in bed with your best friend, evidence of infidelity is usually ambiguous. It’s motivated skepticism. You’re more skeptical of things you don’t want to believe and demand a higher level of proof. Denial is unconscious, or it wouldn’t work: if you know you’re closing your eyes to the truth, some part of you knows what the truth is and denial can’t perform its protective function.

One thing we all struggle to protect is a positive self-image. The more important the aspect of your self-image that’s challenged by the truth, the more likely you are to go into denial. If you have a strong sense of self-worth and competence, your self-image can take hits but remain largely intact; if you’re beset by self-doubt, however, any acknowledgment of failure can be devastating and any admission of error painful to the point of being unthinkable. Self-justification and denial arise from the dissonance between believing you’re competent, and making a mistake, which clashes with that image. Solution: deny the mistake. Attribute it to an outside element rather than resort to introspection.

This degree of core-level denial is where the likes of Jessica Valenti, Susan Walsh and Zerlina Maxwell find themselves today.

In spite of still growing confirmation that the story was a hoax, femosphere bloggers hold out hope against hope that even the smallest part of a medieval-like rape story to rival Silence of the Lambs could be true.

The pivot for this will of course be how the falsehood injures women who genuinely are rape victims, but this is just the shiny keys jingling to distract anyone sympathetic to their ego-investments from the fact that they wanted to believe this story was legitimate.

They wanted to believe it without an afterthought of critical analysis.

They wanted to believe it in spite of the obvious melodramatic dialogue described by “Jackie”.

They wanted to believe a naive freshmen girl could be frat boy initiation raped for three hours on the shards of glass from a broken glass table and never seek medical treatment or have anyone raise an eyebrow over the bloody mess that her back must’ve looked like as she nonchalantly walked out of the party house.

They wanted and still hope that even the most marginal parts of the story might be true. They want any shred of hope that will distract from the fact that they must now confront their complete acceptance of this obvious farce without any compunction of critical thinking.

They all have to face the fact that their presumption of male guilt comes before any logic or reason. This is the uniquely feminine hysteria that even men will invest themselves into if it means they can more positively identify with the Feminine Imperative.

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xsplat
7 years ago

@Sun 30 or 40 years down the road, as the population is falling off a cliff, women will be begging men collectively to come back. The birth rate might bounce back a bit, but men will chafe at the horrible laws still in place and check out again. Only after that do I think the laws might change, sensibility might return, and society might recover. Thirty or forty years is long enough into the future that changing tech will certainly play a big role in our changing society. I seriously doubt there will be any begging done by women for… Read more »

Thoroughbred
Thoroughbred
7 years ago

xsplat – I get where you’re coming from, but I disagree. History is not linear… It IS cyclical. You might want to read The Fourth Turning sometime to see just how cyclical it is. And as far as a “great reset” – that’s baked in the cake as far as I can see. And I don’t see it as some Socialist fantasy to rebuild a better world. More likely it will be a long slow grind similar to the Middle Ages where the advancement of society (if humans even continue to exist) takes a long unpleasant breather. There are dozens… Read more »

xsplat
7 years ago

Although men can group up into tribes and so better compete.

Personally I’m building a group of the best and the brightest, and we are positioning ourselves into industries that give us great access to the best women, as well as upcoming tech and health industries.

That’s about the only pragmatic socialism for men; forming co-operations and tribes.

There will be no gender wide movement to get “men” back. “Men” don’t count.

Only elite men even exist to women. Other men are not even there.

xsplat
7 years ago

@Thouroughbred, Technology is not cyclical, on that much I’m sure we can agree. We can have cycles within periods of similar technology. We don’t have cycles between different periods. Pre-agrarian and post internet societies don’t cycle – our situation now is novel and didn’t occur in pre-agrarian situations. Each new major tech shift ofers new social opportunities. Before the pill and economic indepence society was different. The tech itself changed the society. Peak oil is not going to stop birth control pills being made. Peak oil is not going to stop bio-tech progressing. Tech will certainly progress. In a non-cyclical… Read more »

johngmateus
7 years ago

This is why Ann Coulter was way more right when she described left-wing thought as a religion.

It truly is.

Watch a leftist friend get spitting mad when you contradict them about the Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown narratives they’ve been fed. They will yell and threaten because their religion requires them to have such narratives be true. It’s like pointing out to one of Charles Manson’s followers that he’s really not that great. Venom.

Badpainter
7 years ago

But tech doesn’t change the cyclical nature of history. Hegel was largely correct. We are at the cusp of the next paradigm shift. While tech will influence that it will not stop it or dictate it’s outcome. Tech is just a tool, it’s not magic.The airplane, the Maxim gun, and A-bomb didn’t end warfare. The information age didn’t end the business cycle. “There will be no gender wide movement to get ‘men’ back. ‘Men’ don’t count.” Which is why when push comes to shove Men resort to violence against other Men, because women are not the drivers of history. Men… Read more »

xsplat
7 years ago

No matter what fancy new invention changes the world there will still be some man somewhere using a shovel because some tech is timeless and never becomes obsolete. Ya, there are still plenty of ditch diggers in Indonesia. But for most of the world jobs that used to be done with shovels no longer are. The tech is still there, and we can’t uninvent the shovel. It’s just that we also can’t uninvent the back-hoe. I don’t need to tell you or anybody that inventions up-end not only individuals incomes, but entire industries. It does seem to be news to… Read more »

M Simon
7 years ago

jf12
December 8th, 2014 at 11:41 pm

re: orgasms.

It’s been my long and considerable experience that a woman is a lot more lovey dovey when she *hasn’t* had her orgasm yet

Mine gets cranky after three days with no “O”. I try to see that she gets wet at least once a day. And an “O” every three days or oftener. Just yesterday she was complaining of an underwear shortage. I said, “at your age you should be glad”. She had to admit that there was some truth to that.

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
7 years ago

“And we won’t be able to uninvent them” Who’s going to have the skill, tech and resources to manufacture them? I can make a real good bow, tinder, cordage, or a house, canoe, even crude smelting, whatever, with not much more than my bare hands, a few favorite rocks, and most importantly, the volatile component of my skull-circuitry (which by now contains almost all the things I need to know to make a “civilization” suited to, well, just me and my local environment. Everybody else can piss off if you don’t like it). A B/C pill or even a unicycle?… Read more »

Softek
Softek
7 years ago

@ xsplat I’m borderline agoraphobic. If I can get over that I’ve heard Thailand can be a good option. A friend of a friend went there and told me a little about his trip. Showed me pictures of him playing with tigers and also a story about how he got 3 prostitutes for 120 bucks. He ended up getting so nervous with all of them in his room that he couldn’t get an erection and they ended up going to pray at a Buddhist temple. Yep. Lol @ going to a Buddhist temple with a bunch of hookers. Hilarious. I… Read more »

xsplat
7 years ago

@Tam the Bam, are you one of those guys who group together and convince each other of the coming Great Collapse? So many people have such an earnest yearning for the apocalypse. Just remember one word. Evolution. War involves tech. Survival of the fittest for humans, involves tech. You can’t stop technological progress unless you kill ALL humans. All of them. We are not going to ever be sustainably at a low tech period again. It’s upwards or death. That’s it. That’s how it happens, and that’s how it’s going to continue to happen. It’s probably why we can’t find… Read more »

xsplat
7 years ago

@Softek, Yes, our internal narrative has a lot of influence. You have a background in self hypnosis, as I recall. So you’ll likely be aware that even if we tell ourselves a positive story, it contains a seed of doubt negative inside it. “I’m a sexy lady fucker” as self talk might contain in it a seed of doubt “am I really? Or am I just telling myself that?” There was an article on newscientist.com lately that mentioned that self talk that is more effective is “you are a sexy lady fucker” when talking to ourselves. However for myself I… Read more »

M Simon
7 years ago

Badpainter
December 10th, 2014 at 1:51 am

I haven’t heard that for a very long time. Thanks!

M Simon
7 years ago

There are dozens of examples in history of societies overrunning their resources and burning out. That’s precisely what we’re doing now.

I’m an engineer. And I don’t see it. We are multiplying our resources. And what happens when resources get very abundant? Birth rates decline. We are seeing that world wide.

I’m very unusual with 4 children. Three was my goal. The fourth was the first mate’s try for a daughter. She got her wish. What is the actual reproduction average in the first world? 1.5 to 1.8. Decline.

What will make up the difference? Immigration and then machines.

M Simon
7 years ago

I don’t buy the nonsense that we’ll discover some new unlimited energy resource like hydrogen power

Fusion will be good for another 10K years. By then we will probably have figured something else out.

Look up “m simon fusion” . I know a few things.

M Simon
7 years ago

johngmateus
December 10th, 2014 at 4:32 am

Well you might want to add this to your calculations.

“Look, we understood we couldn’t make it illegal to be young or poor or black in the United States, but we could criminalize their common pleasure. We understood that drugs were not the health problem we were making them out to be, but it was such a perfect issue…that we couldn’t resist it.” – John Ehrlichman, White House counsel to President Nixon on the rationale for the War on Drugs.

M Simon
7 years ago

Softek, xsplat’s suggestion of an older woman is good. And if you have the cash why not hire a congenial hooker as a dating coach? In the mean time practice dominance. Do not be a supplicant. I was lucky. At age 18 an older woman (22) took pity on me and coached me. By 28 I was getting a new one every 2 or 3 months. But I was kind of selective. I know this will sound obnoxious but develop an attitude that “you are god’s gift….” And if you are young enough take up MC riding. And be a… Read more »

M Simon
7 years ago

xsplat
December 10th, 2014 at 9:27 am

Yeah. Robot armies. Clone wars. I keep up with the “defense” sector and what they are up to amazes me. And the tech they have to work with is currently barely adequate. In another 10 years….

xsplat
7 years ago

Re older women: the oldest I ever had was 48. She was a squirter who had multiple streaming orgasms and together we had some of the best sexual chemistry I’ve ever had in my life. Time would lose meaning, just the same way it does on LSD. Was that 10 minutes or 1 hour that just passed? One hour or 10 minutes? Truly mind blowing sex. It was embarrassing to be seen with her in public, but in her apartment we were content. Great cook. Engaging conversationalist. Her 19 year old stripper daughter would sometimes visit and sleep next door… Read more »

Badpainter
7 years ago

M Simon – “And the tech they have to work with is currently barely adequate. In another 10 years….” What I find interesting is that future is often envisioned by, imagined by non-tech people, sci-fi writers, movie model makers, geeks and nerds. The actualization of those visions requires tech people, engineers, applied science types, programmers. The entire future of technological progress rests on the shoulders of men who are almost entirely betas. Men whose status, and competancy in their fields won’t enhance their individual SMV in the current SMP and might infact hurt their SMV. At the other end of… Read more »

Softek
Softek
7 years ago

@ xsplat The girl I hooked up with was a 43 year old single mom. Part of the reason I got kind of upset that she never came back and despite me trying to initiate another hookup multiple times (I’d always try to be not pushy about it and would always wait 2-3 weeks between asking, just would check in and it would be “no this week’s not good for me,” etc.) It did feel good though because I let her know I didn’t have any experience with one night stands, and she said “Well you could’ve fooled me.” Once… Read more »

chrisachi
7 years ago

@xsplat what do you think might happen that is worse then “Yes means Yes”?

David W
David W
7 years ago

Minter said “…with questioning the validity of the 20% statistic,…”

I REALLY doubt the 20% statistic as well, but I haven’t been able to find good research which contradicts it; anyone have a study/survey that is good enough to mention in conversations with family/friends who aren’t red pill?

Softek
Softek
7 years ago

@ M Simon

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. Points taken.

Johnycomelately
Johnycomelately
7 years ago

The real impact of technology on men will be the distribution of income, tech advances seem to have the effect of flattening the income distribution curve. Every progressive stage of increased general societal wealth reduced wealth generation as a fitness marker for female attraction cues. Just remember how much Jon Finkel (of notorious Magic fame) was lambasted despite being relatively wealthy and relatively handsome to boot (but no game). When land was the limiting factor of wealth it accumulated in the hands of few alphas and polygyny was the norm, the European Urban revolution saw the arrival of new wealth… Read more »

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
7 years ago

xsplat : “those guys who group together and convince each other of the coming Great Collapse” lolwut i couldn’t give a fuck, I’ve actuarially outstripped any relevant insurance policies by some margin. Pine weskit afore the Thunderdome fer the likes of me. It’s an appalling prospect. No pubs. My kid bro lived with some sort of northern tribals in Thailand for decades (he hates our native country, too cold, too impoverished, too colonized). Has to touch base every year for a bit (visa/tax crap) and has experienced the anguish of never “owning” any local property, no matter how much you… Read more »

M Simon
7 years ago

I’ve been talking to a bisexual girl that’s 22 on and off and am going to try to initiate something. Bi girls are very good because even if her GF is gay – if you can make friends with the gay girl it triggers a competition response in a very friendly way. You get “qualified”. And if you can do a threesome it is really a confidence builder even if you only get to fonldle the gay girl. Not only that – even if you are a late starter it will make all your male friends envious. Another confidence builder.… Read more »

M Simon
7 years ago

What if some young men are avoiding those fields because subconsciously they know that those vocations are male birth control?

At the very highest levels (aerospace, rocket science) there are a fair number of alphas. But at the lower levels (commercial, industrial) very Betaized. In fact if I was giving advice I’d say don’t work aerospace if you aren’t at least an incipient alpha. You won’t do well. The egos in that area are giant.

I am fortunate to be a contractor. I’ve seen it all.

M Simon
7 years ago

Now I know I’d like to focus on pursuing music and instrument building as well as a few other things (hypnosis therapy for example) Massage is very good for getting your hands on a girl. Foot rubs. Back rubs. If you get “empty” (internally quiet) you can feel the acupressure points without having to train. If the first mate is misbehaving I withhold the foot rubs. She comes around in fairly short order. Talent advice – if you like math you will probably be good at music. They correlate. No one knows why. When I interview candidates for tech jobs… Read more »

M Simon
7 years ago

just look at American black culture, the first to genuinely embrace serial polygyny

It was forced on them by the depredations of Prohibition. Thus I’m not so sure it is a fixed feature.

David Black
David Black
7 years ago

“Women want to believe in the presumption that every man outside of their preselected, collective approved, hypergamous ideal is a potential rape threat. In other words, a man who might, by force or coercion, assume control of her hypergamous sexual selection.”

I understood what you said about pre selection and the mass phenomen of mass hysteria but why can it be applied to their rape stories? I didn’t get why they want to believe this.

Does it make them horny, thinking of strong man in a world of weak betas?

What do you think ?

eon
eon
7 years ago

@ David W

“I REALLY doubt the 20% statistic as well, but I haven’t been able to find good research which contradicts it; anyone have a study/survey that is good enough to mention in conversations with family/friends who aren’t red pill?”
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I don’t have anything handy, but you can probably find what you need here: http://www.cotwa.info/ (Community of the Wrongly Accused)

And take a look here: www[]avoiceformalestudents[]com/category/misandry-and-conformism/rape-hysteria/

And here: www[]avoiceformalestudents[]com/category/rights-protections/school-to-prison-pipeline-rights-protections/

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

@Joe Katzman, “Magnifique… charter schools are getting a foothold. First the plan, then the man (commitment), then the money. Tranched like any good VC. Tell us what you need from us to hep with the plan.” Joe, To start, I would appreciate a council of males who would be willing to provide a governance structure. This is not something I propose to govern myself. (simply not that arrogant). Second, I would appreciate a council of other males who would be willing to help construct the curriculum. Not for one second do I claim to be in a position to do… Read more »

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

Or, all of the manosphere energy concentrated here at Rollo’s site can wait for the public school system to do it for you (or to your fucking children). Good luck with that. Man, I want to curse you guys, but I will show some restraint and not do it. Nonetheless, I suppose that if you won’t step up, then no one will. Fuck. Pulling my hair out. Soon, it will be time to leave you to your slumber, and I just really don’t want to do that—because the consequences for me and mine will be dire. But whatever male instincts… Read more »

heyjay
heyjay
7 years ago

Softek, why don’t you just consider hiring an escort and get it over with already. You’re pretty good at analyzing your condition, but being too much in your head doesn’t help you. To enable you to get women and not overanalyzing it too much you just need an experience or 2 to break you free from it. I know you might say that you want to “earn” it (whatever that means). I say f*ck it. Just do a few girls, let all the frustration out and you’ll be much better off. After that you’ll see the anxiety fading because you’ll… Read more »

Chester
Chester
7 years ago

@magnifique

What are you talking about?

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

@Peeps, Clear the way for a wrecking ball. Or get your friends in on the action. If nothing else, in your fleeting life, it will be a fun-ass thing for you and your friends to drink beers to… and it just might amount to much more than that… something that you might even pass onto your children (or grandchildren). I’m sorry, I really can’t grovel to you all that much, because I really don’t respect you all that much. Do what’s in your heart. Yes, I knew you before your VP status… I know what you really are, what you… Read more »

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

@Chester

Previous thread…

jf12
jf12
7 years ago

re: “Verifying legitimate social proof takes individual time and effort.”

Yes. Dishonest signalling works very well indeed.

jf12
jf12
7 years ago

@Badpainter re: “The actualization of those visions requires tech people, engineers, applied science types, programmers.”

In a very real sense we “tech people” have almost entirely found ourselves involuntarily drafted into the army of the populace subservient to the pipe dreams of the plutocrats. Almost all rich and powerful people are incompetent and merely lucky, especially compared to the sleeping giant of “tech people” aka “the actually competent”. The dreams of the plutocrats are usually not merely unrealizable but actually objectively worse – stupider, less detailed, sillier, more self-serving, etc. – than the dreams of the competent.

jf12
jf12
7 years ago

@David Black re: “Does it make them horny, thinking of strong man in a world of weak betas?”

Not particularly, but glad you asked. Actually it makes them horny to think of bad men violently forcing fearful women. If you want to know.

jf12
jf12
7 years ago

If de’ briar patch of wolf-whistling cat-calling alley-thug rapists won’t materialize itself in the real world, then Sister Rabbit will just imagine that’s where she already is.

Glenn
Glenn
7 years ago

A few random reactions: @ Badpainter – Spot on with respect to female anxiety and fears. They are better off being kept busy with some small crisis or drama in their lives. They seem happier when this is so, and this may explain why so many women create drama when it’s unnecessary. It may also just be plain old boredom. @ whoever mentioned Ray Kurzweil and the singularity – Just know that the leading minds in artificial intelligence (Kurzweil is not among them) will not even discuss Kurzweils idiotic ideas. His “science” is complete horseshit and his lack of understanding… Read more »

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

@Glenn, “How can you not get that you are a joke in this community? I have exactly nothing in common with you or that scumbag Julian over at RSD. Perhaps others here don’t mind making common cause with you or him, but just the thought that I’m “in it” with you or him makes me sick to my stomach.” I hear you. Support of those scumbags also makes it difficult for me to find common cause. For fuck’s sake: they advocate rape on twitter to young, impressionable, socially uncalibrated males. How could anyone support that? Also, I’ve never supported Minter’s… Read more »

jacklabear
jacklabear
7 years ago

@Glenn
“…but just the thought that I’m “in it” with you or him makes me sick to my stomach… you seem to think you have solidarity with the rest of us, and presume a role in speaking to us …”

Perhaps you’re putting the cart before the horse. Presuming acceptance and solidarity may be a way of acquiring them.

jacklabear
jacklabear
7 years ago

Johnycomelately December 10th, 2014 at 9:11 pm Good observations. Another way of putting it is that women’s instinct to get men to provision them is still functioning, and probably will continue to do so for a long time. in that sense it’s not vestigial. Monogamy culture has been around about as long as agriculture and similarly has had little influence on our DNA. What I’m interested in is what relationships between men and women are naturally like in pre-civilization cultures. I’ve read the herd-like and ghetto-like depictions of that, but I would like to see more detail from verifiable sources.… Read more »

Jeremy
Jeremy
7 years ago

Re Rollo’s link… Kathryn and Jeremy figured it was just a matter of time before Coy sorted it out for himself.“It’s a phase,” the Mathises reassured each other. Goddamn why are so many parents so infuriatingly ignorant? There seems to be some kind of mass delusion that children come out of the womb with most of their preferences, personality, and behavior pre-determined, and that all kids need is “space” to “figure things out on their own.” This thinking then turns into a crutch to stop watching your own child’s behavior and figure out what is influencing them. Eventually you get… Read more »

Badpainter
7 years ago

Jeremy,

Is it just me or the only idiots who try and intentionally raise children without gender roles/expectations leftist man haters?

jacklabear
jacklabear
7 years ago

A good way to refuse sex without drawing a false rape accusation or sexual assault by withholding sex charge: tell her you’re a gay tranny.
It’s fashionable these days. You might even get SJWs doing things for you. Might be worth money too.
If enough men claimed to be gay or tranny to game the system, it might trigger a retreat from the current climate of social silliness.

Glenn
Glenn
7 years ago

@ Magnifique – I like your contributions here for sure, but please, I don’t need to be reminded that Minter is a human being. He’s an asshole. And you’ve known it for a long time, so yeah, we’re on the same page. Being an atheist and a selfish prick has its advantages. I don’t think all human life has dignity and worth. I don’t think people are innately good. I take people as they come and deal with them as I see fit. I don’t feel bad for Minter. I could give a shit less about his humanity – he’s… Read more »

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

When one studies the author (JRR Tolkien) of the Lord of the Rings, one will discover that he was a pretty righteous fellow. Why did Frodo give Gollum so much slack? Because he knew: he knew that the same sickness that was inside of Gollum was inside of him also. And he had to believe that he could transcend it (which he did, with the help of his spiritual brother, Sam, because none of us are in this thing alone). Yes, I have known about Minter for a long time. I’ve also known about many proprietors and loud commenters for… Read more »

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
7 years ago

Australia 517/7d
India 369/5 (97.0 ov)
India trail by 148 runs with 5 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

What? The where ..?
Oh sorry chaps, must have a touch of hysteria. Horse on.

M Simon
7 years ago

Magnifque
December 11th, 2014 at 1:20 am

Joe is absolutely top drawer. I have known him on the ‘net for about 14 years. If you get a chance to work with him. Do.

Hi Joe 🙂

M Simon
7 years ago

Magnifque
December 11th, 2014 at 1:20 am

I can help some with science, technology (electronics, computers, power, control) and manual arts. My e-mail is on the sidebar at:

http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/

As much as possible avoid books. Most everything needed is on the ‘net. All except lab eqpt.

M Simon
7 years ago

Brother, on this, we agree one million percent. As I just stated, it’s the ultimate sin to abandon one’s issue.

Which is one of the reasons I stuck with the first mate no matter what. And better yet. When I hit a very low point with her and was ready to give up totally who provided council that changed my mind? #1 son.

M Simon
7 years ago

$100 says that the kid in that story was babysitted through most of his childhood by watching animated Disney movies that have subtle (but obvious if you’re paying attention) digs at masculinity.

Some. But hormones in the womb also matter. Living in a big city matters. Ecology matters.

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/11/blue-and-red.html

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

@ M Simon,

“When I hit a very low point with her and was ready to give up totally who provided council that changed my mind? #1 son.”

Amen.

Jeremy
Jeremy
7 years ago

@Magnifque
December 11th, 2014 at 1:20 am

Re: Joe Katzman,

I can’t find Joe’s comment… wth are you discussing, exactly?

Magnifque
Magnifque
7 years ago

http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/05/teach-your-children-well/comment-page-2/#comments

Joe Katzman
December 6th, 2014 at 3:45 am

Sorry, posted that last in the wrong thread somehow.

Magnifique… charter schools are getting a foothold. First the plan, then the man (commitment), then the money. Tranched like any good VC. Tell us what you need from us to hep with the plan.

Badpainter
7 years ago

Willa Brown doesn’t get it.

I this article she shows both complete contempt for and a simultaneous absence of understanding about masculinity and why today men might search for any totem, ritual, or costume that allows us to reconnect with ourselves absent the good opinion of women. She does do a nice job demonstrating why a woman’s opinion on such matters is every bit as uninformed, unimportant, and unwanted as my opinion of the best brand tampons would be if I had one.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/lumbersexuality-and-its-discontents/383563/

Of course the criticism is directed only evil white men. Quelle surprise.

redlight
redlight
7 years ago

very important report is now out:

Rape and Sexual Assault Victimization Among College-Age Females, 1995–2013

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf

“rate of rape and sexual assault was 1.2 times higher for non-students (7.6 per 1,000) than for students (6.1 per 1,000)”

statistically, rape culture on campus is hysteria

MoLoLu
MoLoLu
7 years ago

@ Softek: This is a bit random but your comments here finally shed light on the frustration of a friend I once held dear. Ultimately his utter failure at dating and my inability to comprehend, much less assist him, drove us apart. I’m glad I finally got to understand what this feels like and why it’s such a pain. I still can’t understand it – it just does not compute in my mind that this is possible – but just seeing a bit makes me feel like, maybe, the next time I run into this I can be less useless… Read more »

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
7 years ago

If rape by deception gets wider acceptance, then a marine in the Philippines who is charged with killing a transsexual woman could be said to have killed an attempted rapist. “…According to the Philippine National Police, Pemberton allegedly met Laude and another transgender woman named Barbie at a disco bar while on shore leave in Olongapo City. The three checked into a motel, but later that night, Laude told the other woman that they should leave before Pemberton could discover that they were transgender. Laude was found next to a toilet by the motel clerk, dead by apparent drowning. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/15/u-s-marine-charged-with-the-murder-of-a-transgender-woman-in-the-philippines/?tid=hpModule_04941f10-8a79-11e2-98d9-3012c1cd8d1e… Read more »

Opus
Opus
7 years ago

Perhaps I might add to Thoroughbreds list of Hysteria (December 8) the present hysteria in England over the late Jimmy Saville. Saville who for forty years was as popular as one could be, a man who dspite his fame devoted his life to charitable causes, turned over-night post-mortem in to the worst man who ever lived and there is not one shred of evidence to support the ever-growing list of his abominations ascribed to him. The non-stop calumny comes entirely from women who have been set in motion by one single and entirely inaccurate allegation (Duncroft). For women, men are… Read more »

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