The Advantages of Now

As of this writing my second talk at last year’s 21 Convention is now available for free public viewing on 21 University. I worked this ‘talk’ a bit differently as you’ll see. I find that I can address what most of my readers are concerned with most in and open discussion rather than my delivering a sermon from the stage. I think I’m more comfortable with this as I’ve been aggregating information with other men in a forum style discourse for so long. My time at SoSuave really taught me the value of that back and forth exchange of information, and it’s really what led to so much of the material I’ve covered on the blog for almost 7 years now.

For the sake of clarity, this talk was the second I did and took place a day after my first, Hypergamy, Micro to Macro. I had originally intended to cover aspects of my third book, Positive Masculinity, since it had been released about 2 months prior. I had an extensive lecture all ready to go, but I decided to switch up my talk that morning. The day and night before I had gotten into at least 8 different “sub-conferences” with spontaneous groups of about a dozen guys that went on for any where between 20 minutes to an hour. It occurred to me then that the best way to address my topic would be to have an open discussion about masculinity with the guys I was talking to just a few ours before.

As much as I liked the first talk – and I still feel understanding Hypergamy in its entirety is a keystone element in understanding intersexual dynamics – I think this talk was much more personal. I’ve always felt that the Red Pill should remain ‘open source’ and be an aggregate of the experience of men from all over the world. To this end I’ll always feel that a roundtable discussion style is the best way to encourage men not just to put in their two cents, but also as the best way for men to learn. I am first a writer and then a speaker, but my speaking will always be better when a man is expressing his concerns, problems, critiques and experiences within a group of men focused on untangling Red Pill awareness. I’m always humbled when an interviewer calls me one of the Godfathers of the Red Pill, but the truth is there is no father of the Red Pill. For as much as some writers would like us to believe they fathered the manosphere, Red Pill awareness is the result of a consortium of men who came together, offered their input to the whole and made it something greater than it was before.

I got to watch both my talks before the post-production and release, and while I was reviewing them it occurred to me how fortunate this generation is to have access to such information today. I’m from a generation that didn’t have the internet when I was in my early 20s. There were no Game Gurus and the only “how to pick up girls” books we’re only available from mail order ads you found in the back of a Penthouse or Hustler magazine. I did read Why Men Are The Way They Are by Dr. Warren Farrell in 1993, but other than that book there was nothing about the nature of women that would ever be published by the major publishing houses then.

After I reviewed my video here I watched a TED talk given by Robert Greene, author of The 48 Laws of Power, and in it he recounted all of the dead end jobs and life experience he’d accrued up to around 1996 when a friend of his fronted him $30,000 to keep him going while he wrote the book. He’d always wanted to be a writer, but until the mid 2000s publishing was locked by a monopoly of a handful of ‘traditional’ publishing houses. Even the 48 Laws of Power had to get past their review processes. Now I think Robert Greene is one of the greatest minds of our time in his articulating power dynamics, I attempted to model my own writer’s voice on his example, but there was a time when anything resembling Red Pill awareness or truths that would be less than flattering to the status quo would never have seen the light of day. Print on demand and digital publishing (eBooks) wasn’t even a dream at that time, but today we take them for granted.

I never had a childhood dream of being an author, writing is just something I’ve always done as one more outlet for my creativity. I never thought I’d be a published author of one book, much less three. Nor did I imagine I’d have audio versions of them (book 3 is coming soon Sam promises). But now is the time. With digital publishing anyone can be an author so long as their ‘content’ is good.

We are living in an era in which certain things we take for granted are the only time in history that they could occur. That might sound self-evident, but think about it; our technology today is such that certain ideas that could never have been brought into popular consciousness could only be considered because of that technology. We have an advantage of now. It’s kind of humbling in a way – having witnessed the transition from a time when all of the dynamics we invested so much of ourselves in then are now made common, cheapened in some cases, and the legitimacy of having earned them is lessened as a result.

In my rock star 20s it took 4-5 months of all of the guys in my band to scrape together enough money to pay for a 3 song demo tape (no CDs for us then) in a recording studio, and that was with us having friends in the industry. Today I can do everything that very expensive studio could on my iMac. I have tools now to create the dreams I’ve had since I was in high school, but the challenge is no long the access, but the ideas themselves. We live in an age when access to the tools and means of creation has never been greater, but the ideas, the imagination, the abstract unrefined concepts is what I think is lacking today. We can produce masterpieces of music in our homes, but today music is only getting worse.

I’ve seen videos of brilliant instrumentalist virtuosos on YouTube. Kids not older than ten playing complex pieces of music they learned and absorbed themselves online, yet few could actually create an original song with any expressiveness themselves.

We also live in an age where access to information has never been more ubiquitous. We have access to the knowledge of all human history in a device that we can put in our pocket, yet we’re still too lazy to actually use the search feature or cite an easily had source. We have a connectivity today that spans the globe, yet we readily factionalize and atomize our social networks according to ideological biases.

A lot of this disconnect from real genius, from true creativity, I want to chalk up to the constant distractions we’re bombarded with daily. It’s really the price we pay for having unlimited access to information and the tools of creation. Paraphrasing the late Chris Cornell, there are no more writers like Shakespeare because all he had was a table, a candle, a pen and some paper. Today, learning to avoid distractions and focus on a single task is an art itself, but there’s another reason for this lack of honest genius and that is we’re gradually seeing a new generation of men and women who are themselves the product of a social order that has never known a time or condition where this access didn’t exist.

I think it was Dave Grohl who said something like kids today think rock stars are generated from talent shows on TV. Even with all the easy access to creative expression there’s still this idea that the process is somehow out of their control.

So why am I freestyling this post just to introduce my next talk video? Because I want my readers to get some insight about the radical nature of the information that the Red Pill presents today. I’ve written essays about how the 1990s really represented the pinnacle of the Feminine Imperative’s social influence. This was due to the limitations of information inherent in that time. In those essays I wanted to stress just how influential the Imperative was on western culture, but more importantly just how ignorant we were of ever perceiving it then. Today, the jig is up.

The internet has exposed the influences of feminism and it’s opened up a dialog – one that the controllers of the means of it would like to censor – in which it can no longer hide its true intent. The nature of women, the mechanics of intersexual dynamics, the good, the bad and the ugly of everything the Red Pill makes us aware of is increasingly expanding. It’s expanding so much that I fear we’re reaching a point where the means to explore new ideas in the ‘sphere are being limited by the means itself.

When you watch this video, any Red Pill aware video, when you read the latest essay here or anywhere else, keep in the back of your mind that knowing this information is only possible in this time. I wrote Preventive Medicine in response to men telling me how they’d wished they’d had this information back when they were younger and didn’t know better so they could make better, informed decisions. The truth is that the information I’ve been spreading since 2002 could only be realized in this age. Some will say, “yeah, but ancient scholars (and deified psychologists) knew this stuff a long time ago”, to which I’ll say ‘no, they didn’t’. Not to the extent we do today. Not with the degree of accuracy we know now. Only now is this possible, and only later will we have an even greater understanding of the Red Pill – for better or worse.

You are fortunate to be here in the now. Some of what you’re made aware of will frustrate and anger you, some of it will depress you and some of it will bring you to that “Ah Ha!” moment. The Red Pill can enlighten you or stifle you, but you are better off knowing it now in an age where this is finally possible.

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Pinelero
Pinelero
4 years ago

@anon “I think the point is “explicit consent” (just reading the article) is required. So if she doesn’t say “yes” but takes your dick out and jumps on it, it could still be construed as rape.”

She takes out your dick… did she ask for his consent? She inserts it by jumping on it… did she ask his consent to have sex? What you just described is her raping him, maybe we do need common sense to be legislated after all to stop FI misandrist using the hammer of the law to persecute men.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

I didn’t come up with the definition of what a “Alpha” is. Neither did mers. Evolution did. Well, sir, evolution involves reproduction. I have a new granddaughter. Have you managed to reproduce yet, being alpha and all? And last night, men were calling me an inspiration, buying me drinks, a girl grabbed a hold of my arms and push/pulled them against her boobs, another girl was pushing her titties against my chest, I was matchmaking (it was going Ok at first, but I think the guy fucked it up at the end), and I intercepted a cockblock attempt to lead… Read more »

anon
anon
4 years ago

“What you just described is her raping him, maybe we do need common sense to be legislated after all to stop FI misandrist using the hammer of the law to persecute men.”

I described a case I”m familiar with, happening right now, with those essential facts as a basis for a rape claim against the man.

anon
anon
4 years ago

Congrats on the new grand baby Gamer! That’s awesome. 🙂

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

@ j “I didn’t come up with the definition of what a “Alpha” is. Neither did mers. Evolution did.” It seems evolution made a snarky chad in you… ““Just saying there is a much deeper world to being masculine/alpha/etc than just getting your junk wet every weekend” Cause you can’t dipshit lol (“well I could I just don’t want to” lol) That’s why you, and the other OMGs, have to redefine what “alpha” is lol.” I guess I struck a nerve? Nevermind about having a broader conversation of masculinity then, just keep that notch count climbing, you stud.. Lmao I… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

“…and I’m a spergy beta…lol”

Love the self awareness. Good shit brah

@SjR

“Your defensive reaction says a lot”

lol. It was a combination of being pissed my wingman was too sick/useless to go out + music I was listening to at the time + alcohol. Fucked a French tourist girl last night so all good now 🙂 No wonder players don’t hype this amazing Eastern European city up. Good cheap food, lot of good bars/clubs and plenty of sexy women walking around day and night…heaven.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Your defensive reaction says a lot. I stay well satisfied, but excellent keyboard AMOGing there, you got me.

lol, great stuff

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

The whole idea of trying to have a deeper conversation concerning what’s ” alpha ” is, imo, to try to assist guys that are interested in being alpha/upping alpha characteristics. Understandable that in a RP blog about intersexual dynamics that guys insist on focusing solely on the pussy aspects of ” alpha “. I get that. But you’ll never get there in that fashion. No shortcuts. No faking. It won’t serve you well over the long haul of how and downs in life. If ” alpha ” was common, there wouldn’t be a need for the designation in the first… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
4 years ago

@ John James R

“It’s the ascendance of the female mind. Feminine Imperative. Females can’t create at all. Full stop…”

Whilst i don’t agree that women can’t create at all, they certainly can’t create to the level that men can. Just look at electronic music; where are the female producers? There literally are none of any significance…

theasdgamer
4 years ago

What one sees when observing the 2 men described will depend upon the degree to which one is a slave to societies standards. Like being blue pill. Well, bad luck also plays a role…like getting terminal cancer/major car wreck. But pretty social lies (aka “narrative” aka “Blue Pill”) can have a major impact on someone’s mindset. So, the two guys can’t have “exactly the same mindset.” Narratives are a con, of course. Who sees thru the con? How do we recognize the con? Sure, many people play it straight. That can eliminate traps set for fellow cons, but not all… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Asd

I don’t believe in luck. I used to a long, long time ago, but now I believe in opportunity or lack thereof.

Lacking opportunity is in itself an opportunity to see if you can create opportunities.

….damn, does that even make sense?

Things happen, good and bad or unfortunate.

rugby11
4 years ago

Blaximus
“What one sees when observing the 2 men described will depend upon the degree to which one is a slave to societies standards.

Like being blue pill.

And imo ” blue pilled alphas ” are situational alphas only. I’m not a fan nor am I impressed.😁
Who are you when the situations shift radically?”

That’s only delt with from the inside out and confronted in every situation you are never ready for.
Part of being male to me is embracing the suck but using tools and story’s along the journey so that you don’t get stuck.

anon
anon
4 years ago

“Lacking opportunity is in itself an opportunity to see if you can create opportunities. ….damn, does that even make sense? Yep. A quoteable quote even. 🙂 On the general subject of perspectives (which came up early) I’m reminded of From Travels with Charley (by Steinbeck): ”I’ve always admired those reporters who can descend on an area, talk to people, ask questions, take samplings of opinions, and then set down an orderly report very like a road map. I envy this technique and at the same time do not trust it as a* mirror of reality. I feel that there are… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“But you’ll never get there in that fashion. No shortcuts. No faking. ”

The Alpha Triad traits will always come through. Dynamic, passionate and authentic.

The description of Alpha being “what gets p in v” or a variation thereof is to misunderstand cause and effect. Alpha is universally attractive to women. Attraction is the effect of Alpha. What irreducible elements are the cause of it?

Thr Triad.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Ok, Blax, call a child getting terminal leukemia “The Will of God” if you like. It’s not like you can do anything about it in any case.

I drive defensively, but some situation could arise where bad shit happens anyway. There’s no way to totally guarantee that bad shit won’t happen to you. Some punches can’t be ducked and will take you out. Ask Ton.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

https://twitter.com/MrsVanessaTrump/status/1007316182687539201

Strong ex wife game on display DJTJr.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Why is the Blog Roll listed twice in Rollo’s sidebar?

Incubus_Rising
Incubus_Rising
4 years ago

@EsСherCixWyen: Anthony Johnson is a self made man, build his own company form scratch, pulls more ass than a toilet seat, is fully Red Pilled and his company in collaboration with Rollo is doing such great things. I am looking forward to the video he is going to upload on 04 July 2018 titled “The Future is Masculine”. He is going all in against the FI. The gloves are off. Just because he will not bang another man’s girl does not make him a Beta. Every man has his own rules on how he will operate in the environment he… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

remember this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUDcTLaWJuo came across the backstory… very good reminder that So Hawt HB9 <25yo's are just silly girls… out looking for fun and whatever their capital [looks] will get them. worried about competing with other girls… Always have guys in their life. Don't stress… Wendy Frazier – the "Legs" girl… When I was a young girl, I always dreamed of being Miss America. The excitement I felt each year when it was televised was more than picking the winners but also slipping into their crowns and being carried away, away from my simple and at times abusive childhood.… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@Sjr Well here we go …………((Note to self) This is going to be a waste of time because He really doesn’t care but anyways) ” I wasn’t really trying to say an apex Alpha man should be like crazy ass Manson.” Because you just want to define it as whatever you want it to be and because its so flexible it means nothing like DPA. “I personally would like to think that being Alpha does in fact make you more of a leader (for good or bad causes) and by virtue of having that power and status it increases your… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@Blaximus

I see where your coming from

“Sex isn’t a barometer of alpha. Killing isn’t indicative of ” alpha “.

You’re absolutely correct. It’s deeper than that.”

But yeah you guys are trying to define masculinity in some abstract form……

mersonia
4 years ago

“I guess I struck a nerve? Nevermind about having a broader conversation of masculinity then, just keep that notch count climbing, you stud.. Lmao”

^ Your comment to J is about masculinity not Alpha………. the more you type you should realize it.

mersonia
4 years ago

@Blaximus “The whole idea of trying to have a deeper conversation concerning what’s ” alpha ” is, imo, to try to assist guys that are interested in being alpha/upping alpha characteristics.” Trying to have a deeper conversation concerning whats masculine….. in upping masculine characteristics. “Understandable that in a RP blog about intersexual dynamics that guys insist on focusing solely on the pussy aspects of ” alpha “. I get that.” No ….. RP( in general fails to focus on any aspects of getting pussy) Just as there’s only about 4 people who use Alpha in the original context here but… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@mersonia

Yeah, you nailed it, people are trying to define “alpha” too broadly. It has different meanings in different contexts. Social status is typically a good barometer of sexual alpha. Guys with high social status typically don’t have anti-game. The status could be among bikers, high-end clubs, street people, college, UMC workplace, blue-collar “working” men, etc.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@mersonia

……………..Then everyone dynamic passionate and authentic would be swimming in pussy which they are not.

Do you have any examples of non DPA guys who swim in pussy?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“Then everyone dynamic passionate and authentic would be swimming in pussy which they are not.”

Not really. If you think about what attraction means. A girl being attracted doesn’t mean you will fuck her, especially if YOU don’t realize it. Lol.

mersonia
4 years ago

The point is we’re looking for absolute traits and whatnot that cause attraction in woman…..

If you guys 20 guys who are DPA and only 5 of them are Attractive to women you wonder why the other 15 DPA guy’s weren’t attractive to women meaning there’s something the 5 did that the other 15 didn’t and it can’t be DPA because they were all DPA…. though there’s more to it and stuff -____- that’s why we can’t have all the confusion with definitions of alpha because yeah

mersonia
4 years ago

“Not really. If you think about what attraction means. A girl being attracted doesn’t mean you will fuck her, especially if YOU don’t realize it. Lol.”

No one said anything about fucking her…….even though thats the goal ……….I said if DPA ( which fucking means nothing maybe if you actually broke it down into more definite traits or something it might ) then all the DPA guys would be having some form of attraction or success( P>V??)

but the shit means absolutely nothing because its so vague and broad

mersonia
4 years ago

“Do you have any examples of non DPA guys who swim in pussy?”

eh for what its worth….as broad as DPA is ….I’m not and I clean up pretty nice

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Mersonia A is more about just definitive ++ traits and things that lead to the most efficient rate to P>V . That is the measure on your scale. it does not define Alpha at all. so if you think DPA is too broad… well. Leaving aside the issue of Betas potentially having more sex (in aggregate)… The point is we’re looking for absolute traits and whatnot that cause attraction in woman….. You’ve listed none. The issue you get to below is magnified by 10x when you make a long MECE list of possible traits. The key is reduction to the… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

” Yeah, you nailed it, people are trying to define “alpha” too broadly. It has different meanings in different contexts. Social status is typically a good barometer of sexual alpha. Guys with high social status typically don’t have anti-game. The status could be among bikers, high-end clubs, street people, college, UMC workplace, blue-collar “working” men, etc.”

…. what if you transferred your status *instantly* everywhere you went?

Is their any value in having a narrow band of ” status”?

serious question.

mersonia
4 years ago

@Sentient

Stop bullshitting and put exactly what DPA is…..

Inb4 Do whatever you want when you want……………..

Write a guide on how to be a DPA human………………………..

full of shit

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Check Newlys archive.

How to do it? Well hewing to The Platinum Rule is a good start.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Mersonia

“Inb4 Do whatever you want when you want……………..

Write a guide on how to be a DPA human………………………..”

Why do Dogs have to make it harder than it is??

But yeah taling that step. And the next. And the next.

That’s hard enough.

mersonia
4 years ago

@Sentient ……………..lol I just looked at newlys stuff on ur dpa “Dynamic – a bias for action, initiation, invention. These are male life giving and sustaining traits. A man siting on his ass ain’t bringing in mastodon meat or discovering how to make fire or exploring and conquering new territories or defending existing ones. Male dynamism is the corollary to female reproduction and nurturing. Passion – a hunger for increasing knowledge and skill. Passion is the fuel for dynamic endeavor, informing and amplifying. Passion brings life to the male trait of mission, which drives the larger society forward in the… Read more »

rugby11
4 years ago

Future hero’s are Robot’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENa98h7M7qY
Man and Machine

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Mersonia

That’s barely a rebuttal, forget about a counter argument…

theasdgamer
4 years ago

…. what if you transferred your status *instantly* everywhere you went? Is their any value in having a narrow band of ” status”? Two ways that you could transfer your status *instantly* everywhere you went… 1. You have a name which conveys high status…e.g. Mick Jagger or Lebron 2. You give off high status signals everywhere you go which both men and women can read. This is tricky, because you have to give off different signals for men than you do for women. Sure, if you’re king of your little hill, then having status on that hill has value while… Read more »

levijynx
4 years ago

@Rollo

So I stumbled upon the feminist side of tumblr and found this

https://alarajrogers.tumblr.com/post/165449403569/niambi-im-oh-my-god-this-actually-explains https://assets.tumblr.com/post.js

Obviously it’s false. I think it’s interesting that this is what they truly believe. Look at how they rationalize.. I was like BITCH you got hypergamy lol

Ajax Parallax
Ajax Parallax
4 years ago

So alpha=effective traits that are attractive to women. Period. Got it.

No mention of the effects of these same traits on other men. Nope, that’s something else called masculinity. Got it.

Man, must suck to live life with incurable vaginal myopia.

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

Very entertaining gentlemen… I’m glad I stirred the pot! I do mean that respectfully as I believe debating the differences in our experiences and core values is good for all. I may go into more detail, but here’s the short version… Yes, @Mersonia you’re right to say that the majority of what I view Alpha to mean is directly correlated to masculinity. I don’t deny that having solid game and good understanding of intersexual dynamics is important to men, including those who are Alpha type men. Where you and j lose me is when you start talking about ‘original’ Alpha… Read more »

rugby11
4 years ago
SjR
SjR
4 years ago

+1 @Vaginal Myopia.. Lol!

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Unnatural naturalness.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Sentient
The Alpha Triad traits will always come through. Dynamic, passionate and authentic.

Plus red pill. Because blue-pill DPA leads to AFC-land. Have seen it more than once…

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Higgs Boson
Stone MAGA

That’s trolling. …and entertainment.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
4 years ago

🤣

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Another thing I ‘ve found:

Looking forward to you restarting your blog…

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

I have to say this because none of you know my background and the easy arguement against what I’m saying is: “Yeah he’s naive and buys into this macho RP stuff, but can’t really get attractive women on a routine basis.” I’m 36, tall, fit, and reasonably attractive. I never had any trouble getting girls when I was younger, but I was no prom king either.. I was definitely blue pill and spent the typical 7-8 years in a BP marriage. After divorce of my own bringing, in which I was not divorce raped, I found RP and it aligned… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Escher, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

SjR

“I’d be willing to bet a dozen ONS with French tourist girls can’t even compare with the sexual satisfaction I’ve had with a handful of local girls over the past year or so…”

Based on what?

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

Ehh, satisfaction?
If numbers and variety are your thing, more power to you. While the thrill of the close is exciting I’ve not found that the sex in most ONS is that memorable.. May be just my experience though..

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

I like teasing and working a girl up over hours if not days before the encounter.. suggesting something I’d like from her, and then expiriencing her perform it in the moment without any additional prompting from me.. only her drive to satisfy me. THAT makes for memorable sex, and I don’t really see how you get that from ONS.. usually the dynamic there is lust on both sides and wanting it to be everything it was imagined to be.. (It usually isn’t, because that sort of chemistry takes a little time and practice) If the sex is not good on… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

Sentient’s favorite DPA legend, Steve Lyons, supports men fucking each other up the ass: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbB9gFFoCv/?hl=en Verdict: BETA @SjR “RP theory didn’t come along and change that, it actually explained why women are sexually drawn to Alpha (read masculine) men.” “I also have hardly been to any bar or nightclub in the past 10 years” Then you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Women may fantasy about stereotypical masculine men, but if you’d actually go out to nightclubs and observed with your very own beta eyes who the hot girls go home with (not make out with or grind… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Seriously for a.second from the fucking grown ups section: I curse pua for brainwashing legions of men : A) into believing that real answers to anything at Ok lie in a fucking bar or nightclub. So you ” pulled ” an ” hb22″ for a ONS…😂 … C’mon, calm down.. Guys been pulling chicks out of bars and clubs FOREVER. B) just because a guy isn’t a pua doesn’t mean that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. You forget, not everyone had a need for Codified pseudo watered down version ( stolen bits and pieces ) of Game. C)… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@SJR

You don’t aim for ONS–that’s only if a girl has a shitty personality (that seems so weird to me–to fuck someone you don’t actually like). You aim to spin plates–a rotating group of girls in your FB/FWB list.

If you like your girls, that’s cool, no matter what J says. It’s a little uncommon, but some young women have their shit together and aren’t boring to talk to.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Blax

Is it just me or does it seem desperate to you to have to fuck a girl you don’t even like?

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Asd Nah, the most popular pua stuff that has been linked here points to grinning dudes yapping about how to ” approach ” some 6-7 made up to fool gullible men into believing they are ” hot ” for the most part. As SJF would say, ” we all know what’s going on here “. If a man chooses to believe most women are dumb hoes not worth talking to, and only good for a quick fuck, then that man will only ” see ” what he believes. Projections. And that’s cool for him, but it doesn’t say dick about… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Men have sex drives if they are healthy. One guys sex drive isn’t any special circumstance ( I used to think I was hornier that most men 24/7 ). A man’s understanding is supposed to grow and become refined over time, no? Why the fuck would a guy have sex with some chick he doesn’t want to have sex with in the first place? Just jerk off and go to sleep.😂 Dealing with females shouldn’t be some kind of hard and frustrating task. Maybe in the beginning until you learn and get your shit together. But you are supposed to… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Oh, and for the recot, I’m a fan of j. But sometimes he says some crazy shit.😬

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Record….

j
j
4 years ago

@theasdgamer You don’t have to do anything. But if you WANT to fuck that hot ass basic bitch and don’t care if you ever see her again then go ahead. Simple. Platinum rule. @blax “into believing that real answers to anything at Ok lie in a fucking bar or nightclub” Its our laboratory (“Ha! Nerds!!!” lol) to test if something we read about works or not (or to find out if there are more efficient ways to go about seduction….progress, like any other field, is slow (it always looks like everything there is to know about a certain field has… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Grasshopper.😂 you still believe that girls are so much different from one another. Yes, there are some discernable differnces, but at the end of the day, awalt holds and true Game rules. Game is the great equalizer. Hb6’s will be no different than hb10’s, if your game is real, internalized and bulletproof. I don’t have a pua blog, but I know what I’m talking about. Imo clubs are a shitty lab for trying to learn about the nature of women wrt having sex with them on demand. That’s why I continually harp on internalized Game because it’s unlimited. If you… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

@palma

It is a passion of mine…I love the game..I love the chase…the discussions…the validation…the process…not any particular silly girl.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Absolute truth.

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

Good stuff @Blax, asdgamer, palma. @ j For the record, I want desire sex from attractive women period. I don’t care if she’s 22 or 40 as long as she’s hot and down to please. Believe it or not, women don’t just turn into withered ass hags the day they turn 30.. Some age worse than others for sure. Also what makes you think these young hotties you’re pulling are any less worn out than my “used up old chicks”? You can’t know that she hasn’t had her varsity whatever team run a train on her, or that she didn’t… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

J You refuse to get it… Sentient’s favorite DPA legend, Steve Lyons, supports men fucking each other up the ass: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkbB9gFFoCv/?hl=en Verdict: BETA The Alpha Triad is amoral, and apolitical… which is how you get this as well… you’d see that those guys aren’t necessarily the most masculine men in the world… And contradict yourself… Masculinity is a whole different thing. What are Tyler and Julien’s views on gay marriage? Are Tyler and Julien Beta? lol This… t is a passion of mine…I love the game..I love the chase…the discussions…the validation…the process…not any particular silly girl. tells us where you… Read more »

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

I’m not trying to argue that what I think/do is any better than anyone else here. It works for me and as I said before, I stay well satisfied. I truly hope all the rest of you do too. If that means pulling girls from clubs, great. Where I took issue was the defining of Alpha as the best puller of tail from social venues. I know that I’m not going to change your mind on it, and that’s fine. I think it’s an incomplete definition, but that’s my 2 cents and you’re more than entitled to your own views.… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

@SjR “I gotta say I raise an eyebrow when you start talking about “emotionally stimulating her” and “not triggering her ASD”. None of that makes it sound like you’re about to get no holds barred desire fucking.” Then this makes me skeptical you’ve ever fucked a girl that you weren’t her ideal type. ( I’ve seen the kind of guys these girls “have fucked before me through their phone…trust me…I know I’m definitely NOT the type of guy they usually go for lmao) “You do realize it takes some tight internalized game to keep a girl wet and desirous of… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

AWALT refers to a girl’s emotional wiring. Training can make her wiring more amenable to a man’s agenda. Game is always needed to deal with a girl’s emotions–whether PUA or relationships. I don’t diss PUA or relationships. Dread is required (preferably soft) for all relationships, per Rollo’s Plate Theory. It works for me, even tho I use an intermediate form of Dread. @Blax Lemme put it another way. Why would I wanna bang a girl I don’t enjoy talking to if I’m looking to spin plates? And I have no problems with J. He’s putting in the work and figuring… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

@Sentient

“And contradict yourself…”

No. The guys I see that pull a lot (and I’m including gay Tyler and julien) are alphas in mers’ Scale A. They lean beta in Scale B because they aren’t traditional masculine men…which isn’t necessary to fuck girls as I’ve just pointed out

theasdgamer
4 years ago

“You do realize it takes some tight internalized game to keep a girl wet and desirous of you a few months down the road?”

And you do realize I’ve keep multiple fuckbuddies through the years without spending a single penny on them? Constant “no holds barred desire fucking” is only one part of the equation but yeah I got that part pretty figured out lmao.

Long term FBs is part of the equation…but living with a woman for decades is a whole nuther animal.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Rollo

I noticed that some of the “like” stars aren’t clickable and say “loading”, but they never finish. WordPress problem?

j
j
4 years ago

And validation is just one of those things people love, but like to pretend they don’t care about cause its not “alpha” to admit it.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

@J

Or, for that matter, not feminist:

theasdgamer
4 years ago

J, depending on other people for validation is a trap. It makes it easier for them to manipulate you. To con you. Better to know yourself (you’re obviously still working on that and that’s Ok) and be happy with who you are and who you will be. For example, some people call me “spergy”, intending disrespect, but I’m cool with being spergy. I do have to validate my game as part of my plan, but I don’t need anyone to validate me. Of course, it’s nice to get validation, but I don’t need validation. I’m not a validation junkie. Hope… Read more »

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

@ j

“Minutes not hours. Again. We talking about streamlined/efficient game”

Maybe my pick up game is lacking, but in 95% of situations where a hot girl is willing to leave with me (a complete stranger) minutes after we meet, it triggers MY ASD.

Getting a bill from her pimp, or her giggling as she hands me a trial pack of Valtrex kinda kills the fun for me…

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Ohhhhh. How I see the massive disconnect. Tyler /Owen ( or whatever the fuck his name is ) and Julien are by NO MEANS alpha in my estimation, or any kind. This helps explain why guys that trend towards pua seen to be genuinely confused about masculinity and alpha. They’re looking to dorks that get laid ( again, any man can do this. These knuckleheads aren’t magicians, they just two you what you didn’t know ). Hence the n count= alpha. More betas in the world than alpha. More betas manage to hang the hottest women than al phas. Why?… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

….spellfucker

mersonia
4 years ago

This is why we can’t have nice things…… I’ll just go in a line. @Sjfjr “I do mean that respectfully as I believe debating the differences in our experiences and core values is good for all.” I’m not debating experiences or values with you. I’ve told you before I don’t give a fuck about what you think. Just clarifying stuff so that people could better understand . If you’ve noticed I don’t add personal bias in any of these post. “Where you and j lose me is when you start talking about ‘original’ Alpha and ‘evolution’. What does that have… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

@theasdgamer “It makes it easier for them to manipulate you” Yeah one of my main ways I manipuate guys and my target’s friends in field, is through compliments so I know what you’re talking about. “it’s nice to get validation, but I don’t need validation” Of course 🙂 @SjR I have literally zero run ins with hookers in my 4 years of going out, so I have no idea what you talking about. And when I said minutes, I meant anywhere between 20 to just under an hour. Seducing a girl in that time frame is definitely possible…if you got… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@Blaximus “Game is the great equalizer. Hb6’s will be no different than hb10’s, if your game is real, internalized and bulletproof. I don’t have a pua blog, but I know what I’m talking about.” Its pretty much the same…..just the situations are different ………HB10’s will usually have 4 rich strong blaximus type guys around and you can’t just walk up and to her and say w/e … situations like that and shit is whats important . knowing how to manuever and diffuse situations lead to w/e u want………. If a guy just walks up to your group of wimminz blax… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@Sentient Okay I’ll give you some leverage and say I’d much rather people take ur DPA advice and live a good life rather than try not to be DPA in broad terms. ” “Dynamic – a bias for action, initiation, invention. These are male life giving and sustaining traits. A man siting on his ass ain’t bringing in mastodon meat or discovering how to make fire or exploring and conquering new territories or defending existing ones. Male dynamism is the corollary to female reproduction and nurturing.” This basically just means do something…….. and has a lot of gay language to… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

It sounds nice though

marelius
marelius
4 years ago

“Authentic – male truth, the counter to female truth which is emotion. Being who you are by living as you say. This is independent of any moral judgement. Authenticity is the bedrock of leadership. So when you declare to drive your enemies from their land, raze their buildings and salt their fields you mean it AND you do it. Walking the talk even when difficult.” ….This shit doesn’t mean anything. at all…and is real gay language that just suppose to make it seem deeper than it is when it has no meaning………….. No, look a little deeper through the gay… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@maurelius

Talk the Talk, and Walk the Walk
Say what you do, then do what you say

is that it…………………

so what I have here is

D : Do something

P: Improve yourself

A: Say what you do then do what you say…….

………………fosho fosho?

marelius
marelius
4 years ago

Yep – you got it. It seems that its simplicity is undermining its effectiveness for you. Perhaps time will help that, perhaps not. For myself, it was the simplicity of the message/meaning that finally allowed me to see its truth. I have always been one to over think and over complicate.

mersonia
4 years ago

@Maurelius

So yeah it has nothing to do with defining alpha in any terms and doesn’t mean anything but if it helps you go for it buddy.

mersonia
4 years ago

Lol has nothing to do with attraction.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Mersonia

My man

“Okay I’ll give you some leverage and say I’d much rather people take ur DPA advice and live a good life rather than try not to be DPA in broad terms.”

Hypergamy doesn’t care…

You can just ascribe the common English 2018 meanings from Webster’s to dynamic, passionate or authentic. Or you can sperg out on synonyms. You get to the same place. It’s not hard.

But do go back to the post at Newlys and keep in mind this all hangs in an evobiopsych frame. Absent that you have nothing.

marelius
marelius
4 years ago

So yeah it has nothing to do with defining alpha in any terms and doesn’t mean anything but if it helps you go for it buddy.

Funny, that’s not the conclusion I reached. It actually means everything necessary.

Once in a while you can get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right…

Curiously though, who are you all trying to convince WRT shoehorning some set of definitions into the word Alpha?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

J

“And validation is just one of those things people love, but like to pretend they don’t care about cause its not “alpha” to admit it.”

It’s a weakness of ego investment. You’ll see in a few years, maybe.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Yeah, wtf?

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Mersonia

Myyy man.

I.can do everything I’ve done before because genuine.

I just do some things more slowly now.😁

I may be nearing the practical limits, I’ll grant that as true, but I’m not there yet.

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

@ Mersonia Cool brah.. I get that you don’t care about what I think or my experiences… Since this is just an internet comment board, that’s about all I, or YOU have to offer. Idk what silly ass book from 1997 you read and keep referring back to regarding your sacred definition of Alpha.. Just for shits and giggles I simply Googled “Alpha Male” and “Definition of Alpha Male”. Lots about dominance and masculinity, but nothing unexpected there.. The closest thing I can find that relates to what you half ass describe is just ‘social dominance’. That’s still awfully broad… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

I have literally zero run ins with hookers in my 4 years of going out

There are these girls who work at Twin Peaks with stripper bodies…I’ve seen them going out where I dance and I bet they do a little stripping on the side…and strippers are often hookers, too

…but don’t listen to me, I’m spergy, lol…just playin’ brah

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Speaking of strippers, long ago, back when dinos roamed the earth, I went to a club with a buddy–his idea and I wasn’t too keen on going after the first time…there were a couple of experiences that were distasteful… …I went to where a girl was dancing to put a bill in her “bikini shorts”…I tried to just tuck it inside…just a Washington…I’m a fucking cheapskate, lol…I’d paid a Hamilton for a lap dance and didn’t enjoy it…anyway, the broad grabbed my hand and shoved it into her snatch…right there on stage…ugh!…I don’t like public lewdness…keep that shit private…violates my… Read more »

SjR
SjR
4 years ago

Lmao asdgamer! I had a similar experience.. No love for strip clubs here either.

j You’re pulling in eastern euro clubs and never found a hooker? Hmmm.. Maybe it was just her night off and you emotionally stimulated her?

j
j
4 years ago

@SjR See now I know for a fact your game is shit because of your disbelief, that you can actually pull girls that fast and they aren’t hookers…but to answer your question.. In the clubs themselves? No not yet but I’ve only been here only two nights so we’ll see. Got approached by one on the street while I was trying to find a bar, offering me a blowjob (which has happened to me before back in the U.S) the first night here. She was actually not that bad looking. looked kind of shocked I said no to her immediately… Read more »

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