The Creep – Part 3

One of the parts of our evolved, human mental firmware is a need to see order in the chaotic. Pattern recognition in humans seems likely to have been a selected-for trait that aided in our survival in the past. Thus, we look for consistencies that help us predict what will likely come to be or to help us plan for eventualities. As such we had a need to categorize things in our environments as well as in other people (members of our tribe vs. the members of a competing tribe for instance). Naturally, we apply this need for familiarity and recognition to other people which is how stereotypes emerged. I feel the term ‘creep’ is one such categorization, but this is really a proxy term for a type of person that conveys a certain feeling we get from them.

There is an instinctual, animal-level recognition we get from other people’s behavior, looks, smells, subcoms, voice intonations, etc. Pattern recognition has been a survival adaptation in human being’s for sometime because it saved our conscious mind from having to perform rote memorization of each of these aspects and forming a definite identity for each and every individual we meet. It saves our brains from having to consciously process large amounts of data without being overwhelmed.

From People are People:

Human beings have an amazing capacity to multi-task, but a real trained focus on multiple sources of stimuli was problematic for us in our evolutionary past. Too much constant stimuli leads to sensory overload and a breakdown in functionality, which then proves fatal if we’re distracted from reacting to a lethal threat. Thus, we evolved psychological mechanisms to push less (though still) important information to the peripheries of our conscious awareness, to afford us a mental acuity on information of more importance.

One of my personal, foundational theories about psychology is that people are intimately aware of their own conditions.

This is a good starting point in clarifying why we feel a need to typify others. Humans are creatures of habit with an insatiable need to see familiarity in other people’s actions. So when that predictable behavior changes even marginally, our instinctual perceptions fire off all kinds of warnings. I’m starting off with this today because the last part of the creep story is about men setting off this trigger in women.

I’ve written on several occasions about how women constantly complain about how the stereotypical ‘Nice’ guy can turn into a ‘creep’ when it turns out that all the guy was being nice for was part of his Beta Game of identifying with her in order to get to intimacy. There’s a lot going on in a situation like this, but fundamentally it represents a situation where a woman’s Hypergamous filters are fooled (or not) by a guy misrepresenting himself as one asset to her Hypergamous understanding of him and then his revealing and confirming for her that he expects her to believe he’s something else.

I’ve also written before that nothing is more flattering for a woman to believe that she’s figured out a man by using her mythological feminine intuition. However, there is a flip side to this ego-compliment to women, and that’s when her ‘intuitive’ assessment of a man’s SMV status compared to her (self-perceived) own proves to be false. Nothing is more offensive to a woman than for her to have made an assessment of a guy based on her mythical intuition and then to have it prove inaccurate.

The reason this is so offensive is because women’s Hypergamous optimization with any man is largely dependent on her intuition. Hypergamy and women’s long -term breeding strategy depends on assessing men’s SMV and their utility to her accurately. This is often compounded by women being sold on the infallibility of their feminine intuition – courtesy of a feminine-primary social order – and grossly exaggerated self-perceptions of their own SMV, and the caliber of men they ‘know’ they must deserve. But as with most things human there is also a learned / trained aspect of pattern recognition. Much of this learned side for women is often distorted by our female-important society.

Hypergamy cannot afford to incorrectly assess a man’s status and value. There is only a finite window of optimization while a woman is in her peak desirability in life. So it should come as little surprise that if a man misrepresents himself as something other than what he is – either deliberately or by misunderstanding – women feel an offense on the limbic level. It’s an offense that confirms she’s wasted her very precious time with a Hypergamous dead end. And, needless to say, Game is a form of deliberately tricking a woman’s Hypergamous filtering – at least in the PUA sense, if not an authentic sense – thus, Game is so vehemently disparaged in women and their identifying sympathizers.

When a woman typifies a guy as a creep what she’s responding to is the fallibility of her intuition, but also his efforts to misrepresent himself as something he’s not to her filtering mechanism. I should also add here that concepts like preselection and social proof are extensions of this filtering process. Only in this case it’s women’s collective, social filtering that’s aiding in an individual woman’s selection and optimization process. As such, that collective of women (the Sisterhood Über Alles) needs a type of man to be the representative of the ‘deceiver of Hypergamy’ – enter the Creep.

I’m actually kind of glad I held out for three posts in this series; it allowed for that many more sexual misconduct allegations to come forward in what’s being called a masculine moral panic today. And as I predicted in Male Control, the feminine social narrative has shifted from a type of masculinity being “toxic” to masculinity itself is toxic.

THE FACT IS, IT’S YOU. IT’S MEN. THE SOCIAL ILL THAT WE CAN’T QUITE PUT OUR FINGER ON IS MEN.

This is a quote from a recent article in Esquire. Yes, Esquire, a magazine that used to be an exclusive male space dedicated to men’s higher aspirations and betterment is now a vehicle for this new narrative of male shaming, and gender loathing. That’s to be expected these days – GQ is a similar platform for the Feminine Imperative’s messaging – but what I found interesting in this article was some of the examples of ‘creepiness’ women believe is rampant in American workplace culture. I had thought that with the rise of HR departments’ directives to police male behavior (at the risk of future unemployability) the issues she mentions would be something men would fear – I guess not.

A coworker knew I had a date the night before, so he asked me how it went. He said, “So, did he get lucky?”

Don’t ask about her romantic life. Don’t refer to her sex life. Don’t ask about the quality of the sex she’s having. Don’t comment that she seems like she needs to get laid. Don’t tell her to lock down a guy before she gets too old and decrepit. Don’t reassure her that with tits like hers, she’ll find a guy some day. Don’t relay details of your own marriage and past in order to comment on hers. Don’t make knowing eyes when she mentions she’s going on date number three. Don’t tell her how to behave on a date. Don’t tell her what guys like on a date. Don’t tell her to wear a low-cut shirt on a date. Don’t make any reference to getting lucky, like, ever.

What guy does any of this? How does he know when a female coworker had a date to begin with? There’s a lot that goes along with how a woman comes to a list of Don’ts, but I think this list represents a good illustration of the creep dynamic. The primary concern she has in all of these Don’ts can all be distilled down to a guy beneath her Hypergamous attraction floor presuming a familiar intimacy with her. I find it very hard to believe any of these Don’ts would be actual occurrences, but I’m looking at them through a Red Pill Lens – yes, it’s entirely likely that Blue Pill creeps would in fact resort to some of these comments.

Essentially the entire article is an effort in berating the Beta men women really want nothing to do with.

YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF SAYING OR DOING A WRONG THING AND HAVING IT BE INTERPRETED IN EXACTLY THE WAY YOU MEANT IT.

Women want lesser men to be afraid to approach, compliment and engage with them, but the message is wrapped in generalities to imply all men do these things. This message has the potential to throw the Alphas out with the bathwater, so I would predict there’ll be a few related articles that will of course shame men for not ‘manning up’ and approaching women like a “real man” should.

Dangerous Times

All that said, I can easily imagine Beta men, confused about sexual zoning, engaging in exactly the behaviors described here. It is a very dangerous time to be a Blue Pill Beta today. In fact, I’d argue it’s never been more potentially hazardous for guy ignorant of Game and the nature of intersexual dynamics. I find it very ironic that the men who actually understand the potential for some real life-damaging accusations in the workplace or any other off-limits social context, who take the open door, have-a-witness, policy for working with women are being shamed for it by women. This is the environment they created, but they created it in response to a want for absolute control of their Hypergamous choices.

A “creep” can pretty much be anyone a woman (or women) want that guy to be – even guys who were previously attractive with whom they had consensual sex with. That Alpha they didn’t mind oversharing their sex life information with can be the “creep” if he decides to break things off with her. Again, this comes back to unfettered control of women’s Hypergamous choices as well as absolving them of any regrets they may have had that resulted from them.

Edelweiss had an excellent comment in last week’s thread:

From my perspective, the guys most often labeled a “creep” are those with poor social awareness and/or men who those women see as offering no real value to them.

Now in my mid 40’s, I can see things that would never have registered for a 20yr old version of me. I often think “how did I miss this before?”. My focus now is almost entirely on body language. A woman can consistently lie with what she says, but she (anyone really) can’t consistently lie with their body language. Any guy not well versed in reading the various signs of interest, or a lack of, needs to spend some time studying the basics. It seems simple now.

One of the major mistakes I see guys make, is escalating too quickly. Touching, and sexualizing around a woman who isn’t into you, or is unsure of your value, is a great way to be labeled a creep. How many times have you seen a guy double down on an approach that isn’t working, and consequently become known as a “creeper”? A good number of men get into “pursuit” mode, and completely fuck up their chances by being overzealous.

I’ve got to repeat this, it’s never been a more dangerous time for men unaware of Red Pill intersexual dynamics and even basic Game principles. Blue Pill Beta men have been conditioned and acculturated to default to a Beta Game that is the perfect storm for so volatile a time. These guys literally have no idea that what their interacting with women is doing is setting them up for. Simple compliments and treating women with a default respect is becoming a liability for men with poor social awareness, but this is exactly the type of men our social order has developed for the past 4 generations. These Beta ‘creeps’ who should just know better than to try to approach the ‘average’ woman are the result of decades of raising and acculturating boys to hate their masculine nature and confuse their good intentions with some form of Game women might appreciate.

Pook once had a great quote back on the SoSuave Forum. He said,

How do I judge a woman’s character? I see how she treats people who can do nothing for her.
This test has never failed me.

At this point in time I think we are seeing how women treat the men who can do nothing for them.

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Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Good teachers are priceless. I’ve been truly fortunate in life to have had many men spend their time, free of charge, to actuallyteach me a multitude of things.

And it didn’t cost me. I wouldn’t be able to pay for what each of them actually taught me.

So yes, a good teacher won’t waste his nor his students time. Possible profit opportunity aside.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ Yollo

I knew a girl once, whose kisses tasted like cinnabuns. I’d make out with her and suddenly develop a strong urge to have a cup of coffee.

Jed Mask
6 years ago

Check this out men: https://soulkiln.blog/2017/11/30/and-furthermore/

Elder brother Ed explains from the Christian “spiritual side” of the sexes.

Insightful read.

~ Bro. Jed

cheupez
6 years ago

PUA will not die, but going into the future it’s more likely going to be hush-hush underground with minimal overt online presence. Same for red pill. The material will continue to circulate and will find avid consumership. If women want a man who just gets it, or a natural, then learning game can only be useful if it is done covertly. That is why I get confused when I hear men confessing that they discuss Rollo’s blog with their wives. How can one do that? But from consciously applying learned game, it has become obvious to me that with all… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@Yollo Comanche November 30, 2017 at 7:32 am Seriously though, the biggest thing Ross has going for him is his composure. It allows him to recover fast, because when you don’t cringe at yourself practically nothing is a mistake. It’s a “quirk”. Ross Jeffries exhibits Command Presence. It’s not necessarily a quirk. And it can be learned in a relatively short period of time if you are aware of the mechanics of it. Yes not flinching is part of it. Does a police officer flinch in your presence? It is also related to the concepts of Frame and Mental Point… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Learning pick up ” game ” is very beneficial to men, but it’s akin to learning to drive a car in traffic. Nobody drives the exact same way after years of driving as they did when they were learning.

Progression, mastery and internalization.

If after driving for years, you still have an instructor in the passenger seat and a ” Student Driver ” placard on the vehicle, you’re doing it horribly wrong.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

I’m sure some men who were strangers to you, out of the goodness of their hearts, spent hours each week for decades teaching you piano. My kids developed artistry with the piano…Mrs. Gamer and I paid the teacher tens of thousands of dollars over the years. The teacher was excellent, but not free. The teacher told the kids to practice and gave them crap if they didn’t so that they cried. Funny as hell. It was amazing what the girls could do with their tiny hands. One of them even taught piano for a while and had paid gigs. Immersive… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
6 years ago

@CSI I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha”. Most men have always been beta, with alphas being a minority. But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle. how’s that FI treatin’ ya?…lol i understand what you are saying, but this idea ^^^ is in the FI’s frame… = assumption that the people being changed by the social programing/society-wide expectations… are the GIRLS…lol remember… girls ALWAYS follow… and shit test their environment as a way to test their… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Decades to learn to play piano?

*scratches head*

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Blax

“A fool and his money are lucky enough to get together in the first place.”

— G. Gecko

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
6 years ago

Guys how do we keep doing this again and again? Let me confirm, as a living example, that Game *can* be taught and I was taught (when I did my Mystery Method seminar over a decade ago) and it not only changed my life, it was worth every penny of the $2000 or so I paid. Profit isn’t a dirty word and a service that you pay for can actually be worth the money and fulfill your expectations. Did that weekend turn me into YaReally? No of course not. But they never pretended it would – they taught us the… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Blax “decades” = over ten years…the younger one quit taking lessons after 13 years, but the older one continued taking lessons when she was home from college Classical music requires extra training…the girls weren’t just keyboard bangers. The teacher was encouraging the older one to become a concert pianist. The younger one played the second movement of Moonlight Sonata so deliciously that I almost had an orgasm. The playing had me imagining a couple on a boat experiencing a sorrowful breakup. Men have large hands and it’s easier for men to play the piano. Not that many do. Girls have… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
6 years ago

PS – Whoever was saying the RSD guys are risking being shut down in this environment (either they or their students) – I don’t think so. The coaches themselves have excellent calibration and are unlikely to get into the situation. The students have more risk yes, but both coaches and students benefit enormously from *not doing this stuff in the workplace* and doing it largely in anonymous hyper-sexualised environments (the “sexual zoning” we talk about here operates in their favour – the street is not as sexual as a club but it isn’t de-sexed the way the workplace or university… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Culum

My point being many are unteachable and this is apparent on contact. The for profit motive always corrupts decision making. Often this results in elaborate self soothing stories one tells oneself, rationalizations and blame shifting.

Whatever gets one through the night. 🌙

Does not for profit have perverted incentives? Yes it can. Usually involving the ego of the teacher. In those cases the teacher will reject the student if his ego needs and power trips are not being realized. In the for profit model, well cash will be cashed regardless. Or bitcoin. Lol.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
6 years ago

Culum,

Honestly, your Game today is logrithmicly better than when the PUA class ended. That you own. No PUA coach got you out there, and made you, you.

Idolization is dangerous.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
6 years ago

“reject the student if his ego needs and power trips are not being realized.”

Why I quit Jiu-Jitsu.

He’s now cucking a wealthy student’s wife. She’s his star pupil, well groomed.

cheupez
6 years ago

@Culum I agree. I think with game coaching, only the basics matter: things like ignore, neg, skip the bitch; make the bitch laugh, dress well, posture, lift, say hi to all the hoes in the house not the target, watch the subcoms eg the gal who pats your back gently when she hugs as opposed to the one who rubs your back and lingers… Once you learn this, your coach is useless. Your coach doesn’t come with you where you are going. You have to wing it once you get the basics. For example, you have to come up with… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
6 years ago

Sentient & EhIntellect – yup, agree absolutely to both. My point was just that these things *can* be taught.

But the corollary is that not everyone can receive that teaching and improve (either because they don’t “do the work” or because they need to address much more basic psychological issues and social skills first, without which Game teaching is useless) and the profit motive often corrupts advice to those people from teachers.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
6 years ago

“Responses to trauma that are often viewed as evidence of unreliability, such as paralysis or an inability to recall timelines, have been shown by neurobiological research to be not only legitimate, but common.”

These articles are false premised. They throw out a truthy stat then quickly pivot from the original sexual assault start to current events that have nothing to do with assault/battery, I.e. inappropriate behavior.

Was Weinstein ever charged with assault? Did his behavior violate a clearly unwilling woman? Were women fighting him tooth/nail and he wouldn’t stop?

Piliing on, these ankle biters. Fooling people requires sustained momentum.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
6 years ago

“de-sexed the way the workplace or university is either”

My workplace is sexed, it’s on the minds of everyone. Alas, the women are untouchable and the shit testing doesn’t stop. Game is critical.

Universities are bipolar. Condoms are freely distributed, institutional punishment, shit testing of men, then back to idiotic sexualized class syllabi..

College chicks blathering about misogyny want the D. They’re searching for sexual leadership. Out of college echo chambers, women are the same.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
6 years ago

Have you guys ever heard of Erickson’s stages of childhood development? I’m sure you have. Therapy models based on this body of knowledge are very useful for integrating a person into society and making them “teachable”.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

EhIntellect Universities are bipolar. Condoms are freely distributed, institutional punishment, shit testing of men, then back to idiotic sexualized class syllabi.. Universities are the same as everywhere else. The girls want the Alphas and to screen out the Betas. But men are often still forming at that stage of life, so it’s easy for a girl to bed with what she thinks is Alpha only to have him turn out to be Beta = “rape”. Same old 80/20 as everywhere else – free condoms for the Alphas, “sexual harassment” training for the Betas. It looks hypocritical to men. It looks… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Asd Last year I shared an incident where my youngest daughter was sexually assaulted at the local airport. A ” creepy ” guy of either Indian or Pakistani descent was hanging around the kiosk where she was stationed, covering for someone on break. The dude spent about 30 minutes or so just standing around, asking innocuous questions about the different candy bars and what not. As I’ve taught her, she was polite and kept her distance and her eyes open. He kept telling her how pretty she was, over and over again, which was concerning her and then frightening her.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

“so it’s easy for a girl to bed with what she thinks is Alpha only to have him turn out to be Beta = “rape”.” Talking about Russell Simmons of course… His first apology brings forth disgusted recollection… https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/writer-jenny-lumet-russell-simmons-sexually-violated-me-guest-column-1062934 Read the encounter… Looks like she went to bed with a knows what he wants, socially dominant Alpha. And got done doggy. Today she wakes up 20 years later with a beta memory… Nothing left for dude to do but double down… I have been informed with great anguish of Jenny Lumet’s recollection about our night together in 1991. I know… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON BETA.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Now the Rivera situation is interesting… I seem to recall a snippet of his memoir where Midler blows him in daylight in a rowboat in Central Park… Anyone find that? But here in 1991… as he slips towards beta she gives away the thought process While Walters sat there stunned, Midler made another light joke about the incident. But then she added, “I’ll tell you the truth, if I had known 20 years later he was going to end up a slimy talk show host I never would have even let him in the room. I mean you have no… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

lol

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Midler: “Geraldo and his producer came to do an interview with me, in the Seventies, in the early Seventies. This was when he was very hot. ”

LOL when he was hot, she was a THOT… 20 years later she sees him THEN as he is NOW.

https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/936296701962305537

What’s haunting her?

Come on class… Free dress tomorrow for a correct answer!

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

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Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Is that Carlos Santana?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago
Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ Sentient

That’s Jerry Rivers… um… I mean Geraldo Rivera.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

was kidding you Blax…

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

I know. But I never miss an opportunity to call Geraldo ” Jerry Rivers ” because of the fake name controversy ( he was named Gerald Rivera, was accused of being originally named Jerry Rivers, and changed his name to ” Geraldo ” because it sounded more Puerto Rican and the news wanted a latino ” ethnic “. ) Lol.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Geraldo-Rivera.jpg

Couldn’t find one of his Bar Mitzvah Blax…

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

I’ll tell you the truth, if I had known 20 years later he was going to end up a slimy talk show host I never would have even let him in the room. I mean you have no way of knowing that these things are going to come back to haunt you.”

Lmfao.

Yeah, Red Pill sure is dangerous.

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

“If infidelity is the new litmus test for relationships the worker bees are fucked.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8eKxVCFoUk
Interested in girl invested in self…

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

GR: If I had know that 20 yrs later how ugly she’d become I never would have fucked her. seriously, is it possible to try and use the ‘equality’ card against them? seems a guy (with nothing else left to lose) could say something like “It’s severely traumatizing to think how close I came to being with her on a long-term basis. Look how crazy, saggy and bitter she is now… I have PTSD just from thinking about it. How many other men has she tried this on? If I had only said something earlier I could have save so… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

Blaximus “Progression, mastery and internalization. If after driving for years, you still have an instructor in the passenger seat and a ” Student Driver ” placard on the vehicle, you’re doing it horribly wrong.” Test me with power… Let me go in alone and show myself compiled to best person i am possibly able to become… Nature is the only test of god… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EVKy35L7MM EhIntellect “My workplace is sexed, it’s on the minds of everyone. Alas, the women are untouchable and the shit testing doesn’t stop. Game is critical.” Positive human expression paint your way to your goals with art…… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Re: Russell Simmons, fuck that guy. Lol. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SETIpihSA80&w=854&h=480%5D ( he dumped that Saddle River NJ mansion about 5 or 6 years ago. ) Rus was notorious for banging models and groupies and video chicks and startlets for decades. Then suddenly, he grew some kind of consciousness or something after his divorce from Kimora But I’m just not buying it. Sure, old Rus is getting up there in years and what not, but all of this vegan-yogi-hollier than thou shit rubs me wrong considering his lifestyle. He’s still a pompus ass. The cool thing is, after his divorce from kimora,… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
6 years ago

“That is why I get confused when I hear men confessing that they discuss Rollo’s blog with their wives. How can one do that?” that’s fucked up. talking about the possible idea of a fight club and what could possibly happen there is one thing. confirming it exists and giving a woman the fucking address to the bar where it happens is something totally different all the ladies would stay to watch. violence doesn’t bother them in the least. on the contrary, it gets them wetter than just about anything. mma won’t take off until the guys in the octy… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

He he, kimora shoulda went vegan or something herself.

http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kimora-lee-out-for-lunch-with-husband-in-beverly-hills-12-14-2016_1.jpg

Damn. Time reveals all.

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
6 years ago

ASD
Thanks very much for that link. Even if all those rationalizations are true in some cases, how is a judge or jury supposed to relax the burden of proof that rests on the accuser? So that’s a question for another article, along with what are the telltale hallmarks of a false or mistaken accusation. The article sure brushes all that off with one weak “to be sure” paragraph.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

dr zipper
seriously, is it possible to try and use the ‘equality’ card against them?

Nah, we both know that “eek-wallet-ee” is a one way street. But your own “Man, if I’d known…” if delivered with a full up ZFG frame might have some interesting results.

Or even: “I knew Bette was going to put on the pounds and become an anger addict, perpetually pissed off at everyone around her. That’s why I didn’t stick around”. Best delivered with a younger woman standing by, smile on her face.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Blaximus
Time reveals all.

What’s that? Something about the aging of wine vs. the aging of milk?

Bet she looks a lot like her mother, now. Plus too many easy carbs in this country.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@Sentient November 30, 2017 at 1:19 pm “Riiiiiight Russ. because listening to women is the key after all… LOL” It is interesting how Jenny Lumet wrote her report in The Holywood Reporter. Notice all the detail she used. I was watching another Tony Robbins video yesterday (please don’t ask why…). There was something interesting in the dogs are not cats and cats are like cats dynamic. Tony Robbins calls the dynamic The hunter report from men and the “meadow report” from women. The dynamic is somewhat important in relationship game. (Probably not so much in Jenny Lumet/Russel Simmons game…) To… Read more »

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
6 years ago

Yes that’s it! That’s why I love TRM — I slog through her Meadow Report almost every night but the women at her female-dominated workplace do not want to fix their problems or hear how to fix them

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

http://www.playbill.com/article/broadway-casting-director-fired-from-telsey-co-following-sexual-misconduct-allegations Marching Into Masculinity “Choose to set the standard from which excellence is measured.” The title of Day #1 is paying homage to the origination of this project. I turned 30 in February and decided that I was going to dedicate the first full month of my third decade alive entirely to my brethren. Men of March was what I came up with. The popularity and results from that project practically forced me to create something which could be replicated for the other men who needed it. Reading about and seeing the real world results from those men, I knew… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@O.B.I.T. “I slog through her Meadow Report almost every night but the women at her female-dominated workplace do not want to fix their problems or hear how to fix them” If that is the case, you at least want to understand what is going on in her Female Social Matrix, if not necessarily fix her problems. She doesn’t want you to fix her problems. She want you to fix her emotions after the fact. Asses her emotions and redirect those emotions to make her feel good. Women don’t want things to work in a work environment. They want to not… Read more »

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
6 years ago

Tom
November 26, 2017 at 5:40 am

Solitary Silver Fox

“When it’s comes to women, you’ve either got it or you haven’t”

Are you aware the manosphere is largely predicated on the hidden fact that this is utter bollocks?

Obviously you haven’t got it, Tom. Nevermind…

cheupez
6 years ago

Maybe the west will start realizing why there is strict segregation of the sexes in public areas in some cultures. Progressiveness is what the western culture has intended to achieve, but they will likely end up in a crisis that pushes them back centuries.

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

cheupez

SJB
SJB
6 years ago

@rugby11: you on Slack? If so, SteveP.

cheupez
6 years ago

@rugby
Thanks for the family alpha challenge post. I presume you recieved this by email. If I subscribe I get the daily challenge for the month?

teniendo un mal día
teniendo un mal día
6 years ago

@Blaximus

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i had that exact SAME shirt!…lol…

¡buena suerte!

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
6 years ago

SJF — Thanks! Looking forward to studying that material. After all these years I have learned some of what you suggest: massage the emotion and change the subject rather than expecting logical advice to have any impact. (But of course I also waste my breath offering the logical advice). Fortunately the regular Meadow Report is more funny and predictable than any kind of serious annoyance. It’s certainly better for her than holding things in. My father had a wonderful method of offering advice in a way that gently led people to basic practical solutions without making them feel stupid or… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

someone needs to come up with a similarly brilliant term for the female cloud
of emotion and frustration when they hit even a minor glitch with a phone or computer

SInce they almost always have a hissing, screaming, toy-fist-banging fit like a tired 2 year old I suggest “Toddler Moment”.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Gerald Rivers begins his apology tour. Needs to work on his moustache, it’s scraggly.

https://www.thewrap.com/geraldo-rivera-apologizes-bette-midler-women-named-tawdry-memoir/

Looks like a lot of score-settling going on across the entertainment sub-world. Apologizing to Bette Midler? She should be thanking him….

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

but is this guy creepy?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/01/nurse-38-helped-inmate-escape-for-sex-cops-say.html

hell no!!!

if she wants you, she’ll find a way to have sex with you lol

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

SJB
Ill attempt to get on it… Wasn’t able to read the phone number tried calling a while back…

cheupez
“If I subscribe I get the daily challenge for the month?”
message him on twitter and ask…
https://twitter.com/thefamilyalpha?lang=en
https://twitter.com/TheFamilyAlpha/status/935619336990887936
https://twitter.com/TheFamilyAlpha/status/936277024695603200

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
6 years ago

Peggy Noonan, of all people (normally a source of much nonsense over at The Wall Street Journal) actually had a very succinct, and I think ultimately quite true and in full agreement with a red pill perspective, take on what the essence of sexual harassment/assault/misconduct is. After a long and mostly tiresome op-ed reiterating most of Pope JPII’s worst feminist sentiments (he was quite the feminist, contrary to what many seem to think of him), she concludes: Common sense will help. Offices aren’t for 10-year-olds but for adults. Deep down you know what abuse is: You can tell when someone’s… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

Novaseeker “By adulthood you should also know what friendliness, appreciation and attraction are.” Compassion and learning to listen… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrFuEysoaP8 “That sex belongs to the men who generate genuine, spontaneous arousal and desire in these women — in other words, to men with Game, to alphas in the sexual/arousal sense (not corporate ‘alphas’ using their positions to leverage for sex that they would otherwise have no access to based on female desire). This is, in its essence, the way to avoid sexual harassment and assault claims — and also the way to guarantee that you will get them. Be the man… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

Worst thing about the Red Pill is that it wakes betas up to their lot in life. The Red Pill should only be shared with Alphas, as it only makes betas miserable. I take no joy in this, but if you think you can “alpha up” after being a pussy for your entire life, lol, I think you’ll find it’s not really doable. A sample of my “reference experiences”: Kissed the prettiest girl in school when I was 5. Banged the hottest girl in almost every social circle I was in, eventually.. . Took no shit from anyone and beat… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

The angry beta archetype….

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-gQ3aAdhIo&w=560&h=315%5D

mersonia
6 years ago

@scribblerg

“. I take no joy in this, but if you think you can “alpha up” after being a pussy for your entire life, lol, I think you’ll find it’s not really doable.”

You should know.

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

“They crave someone else telling them what to do to escape their lives, but never deal with reality. Alphas, on the other hand, have a profound relationship with realty and let it shape them. They take the lessons and the hard knocks, but still “stay within themselves” and build themselves. An alpha is his own point of mental origin.” … When your trauma kicks in and you live with it not letting it turn the wheel of your story and life… You own your though’s words and deeds… What makes life so rich is the moment’s these happen its all… Read more »

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
6 years ago

theage.com.au/comment/the-male-icons-keep-falling-how-metoo-has-turned-into-oh-god-not-you-too-20171130-gzwjyw.html

GhostofSteveMcQueen
GhostofSteveMcQueen
6 years ago

@AR @Blaximus – I still don’t agree that pedophiles and guys wanting girls who are in their late teens/early twenties is the same. I think even biology and evolutionary psychology says that a young but mature female sends fertility cues to the male hindbrain, no matter his age. However, a child is not sending those messages and thus the pedophile is a defective organism. I think your continuum argument is similar to women shaming men who date younger women. Besides, the accusations in today’s witch hunt are about men “harrassing” and “assaulting” women in work settings. It has not been… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

GhostofSteveMcQueen
Kubrick died 4 days after a yr worth of shooting and delivering it to Warner brothers…

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
6 years ago

Did anyone else notice that the man cowering behind the “Brave Girl… Facing Down the Wall Street Bull” statue looked a lot like Ray Moore? I’ll bet this was intentional on Rollo’s part.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“Did anyone else notice that the man cowering behind the “Brave Girl… Facing Down the Wall Street Bull” statue looked a lot like Ray Moore?”

No. I noticed that he was Jos Whedon. I’ll bet this was intentional on Rollo’s part.

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
6 years ago

Thanks kfg, wrong guy, right MO.

“She paints an unsettling picture of a man who allegedly exploited his feminist reputation to behave like a stereotypically creepy Hollywood producer, sleeping with young actresses while lying to his wife.”

But, why would Rollo use a creep like this in his essay picture?

(just kidding)

Jay Fink
Jay Fink
6 years ago

A lot (not all) of you red pill guys have the exact same hatred of beta males that women have. I wouldn’t have expected that. I see an unholy coalition between the red pill community and the FI.

Anonymous
Anonymous
6 years ago

I’m pretty sure this question does not belong here and it may have even been answered already, but I couldn’t find anywhere else in the blog to post, so hopefully you won’t mind my asking it in this article. In ‘Dispelling The Magic’ from Rational Male, you write: “…most young men are subject to their own set of personal conditions and environments, and their personalities and identities reflect this accordingly (…) for all, when conditions are such that they feel deprived of certain experiences in their own life, this creates a conflict between a former identity and the altering of,… Read more »

DiamondBack
6 years ago

Reblogged this on d1rty01dm4n.

Eleanor
5 years ago

Really strange

Film Mania
1 year ago

Really strange

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