Presently I’m putting the final touches on my third book, The Rational Male – Positive Masculinity. I’m now going through the final proofing stages of the print version while I await the reformatting for the digital version. As if that weren’t enough, this time of year tends to be my busiest with regard to promo gigs and brand developments stuff for my “real” job. So if my posts for the next couple of weeks seem a bit sporadic that’s why.
In the midst of this, however, I came across a comment by a long time lurker, Logic, that dovetailed so perfectly with the Afterword of the new book so well that I’ve decided to quote parts of it in the book:
I don’t comment a lot in this blog. However, I think it is important to make a comment that many will probably disagree with but is certainly true for me.
If you ask someone what is the greatest benefit he gained by reading Rollo’s articles, I am sure that you will get various responses:
“I finally got laid”
“I managed to successfully spin plates”
“I understood the true nature of women”
“I stopped giving a fuck and focused on myself (and the women came after)”
…etc
I am sure that all of these are true, not the least reason being that I have experienced these benefits myself.
However, if I may suggest an unpopular opinion, the greatest benefit that one gets from reading Rollo’s article is the fact that you are giving yourself a safety net. And the most important thing in my opinion is that you give yourself this safety net EVEN IF you don’t truly believe what Rollo writes.
If I may elaborate briefly, by safety net I mean LITERALLY safety net. The safety net’s purpose is not for you not to fall. It is for you not to DIE after you have fallen. I believe this is an important distinction (and forgive me Rollo if you have touched on this in one of your articles already). At least for me this is HUGE.
There is a nontrivial probability that you ARE going to fall. Unless you really swear to not EVER feel ANY emotional connection with a woman, then it is highly likely that at some point you WILL fall in love with a girl. Sure, I am positive that many guys will consider that this is something that they can control now that they are Red Pill aware, but you MAY at some point fall in love and you WILL lose your “cool” (btw if you don’t want to call it love call it infatuation; there will be a girl whose combination of laughter, looks, mannerisms and personality will produce this to you; if you want to deny it go ahead and you may be right. But as I said this is just MY humble opinion).
So where does the whole “safety net” come into play? Well, it comes into play when things go south. You WILL loose your cool and she might not notice but then again she also may notice. You will think that this girl is different. Again, it is easy to say that AWALT, but you are not dealing with a bunch of 1s and 0s. It is a human being, standing in front of you, with a personality, with a voice, with interests, opinions and the like. So your brain will tell you that THIS one is different.
And when it turns out that she is not, and she goes cold or dumps you, or cheats on you, then my friend you are going to be JUST FINE. Because you have a safety net. I am not saying that you won’t be sad (you will) but you won’t try to throw yourself under a bridge. The safety net is placed there for a simple reason. The reason is that, in the beginning stages of your infatuation, before you started thinking that she is “not like that”, a little voice inside of you said “You have read about this situation in the Rational Male brother. This may be an illusion. Be careful”.
Yes, you muted that voice for a while, but you never killed it. And when the inevitable happened this little voice came back and said ” Oh well. We knew it. Nothing wrong with giving it a shot. Now let’s move on. Hey check out Little Miss Perkytits at the counter.”
I know that many of you will laugh at this but, to me at least this is a big deal. I also think that the analogy of the safety net is pretty accurate. Even if all of Rollo’s writings hadn’t helped me AT ALL with getting laid, improving myself etc and THE ONLY benefit was gaining that safety net, I think that reading Rollo’s articles would have still bee very much worth it.
I thought this metaphor of a safety net was apt. The history that comes after a man has unplugged himself from his old Blue Pill mindset is in some ways more poignant that what a man does while he is still trapped in his old way of thinking. It’s easier to forgive yourself of the decisions you made in Blue Pill ignorance, but when you become Red Pill aware you own those decisions. As Logic points out, you can only read and absorb what I or any other Red Pill author has to relate to you – at some point you’re going to either consciously or not put this new awareness into practice.
As such you’re bound to make mistakes or false starts. No one makes it on their first jump. It takes time and practice along with an educated Red Pill awareness to internalize and transition into a new way of life. One reason I wrote A New Hope was to help newly unplugged men get past the anger and nihilism stages of unplugging, but also to warn them that the want to achieve the old Blue Pill idealistic hopes will be a strong impulse until they come into a new understanding of Red Pill, realistic, hopes for themselves. In that stage, and even after, there will always be mistakes and falls along the way.
The difference now is that you have a new confidence in the knowledge that Red Pill awareness provides for you. Whereas before you struggled with both a lack of understanding intersexual dynamics and the deliberate misdirection of you ever understanding it, now you have the Red Pill Lens. Now you have a perspective that in most ways insulates you from ever thinking your situation is hopeless. Red Pill awareness provides you with a map and a safety net that allows you to make accurate corrections to your Game, to your relationships and to your life no matter if you fall, no matter your temporary setback. Many a disingenuous critic would have men believe the Red Pill is all about anger or fomenting a belief that men are victims of an unfair system, but what they conveniently ignore is the overwhelmingly positive effect Red Pill awareness has in men’s lives. A great source of confidence comes from a man knowing he’s been emancipated from a Blue Pill paradigm that’s conditioned him to blind himself to its influence.
Reader, and long-time friend, Morpheus responded with this:
Exactly right. All of it!
My 2nd marriage recently ended (about 6 weeks ago my wife left me and informed me she was filing for divorce) and to be honest I’ve sort of surprised myself just how emotionally unaffected I’ve been compared to my first marriage ending (which was before Red Pill, Rollo, and Rational Male). I’ve actually had multiple people comment incredulously at just how well I am doing. I’ve recommitted to a much more intense and frequent workout regimen, and am down about 20 pounds in those 6 weeks.
I credit my Red Pill perspective for enabling me to stay relatively stoic about it all, and refocus on something positive. I think it helps that I realize I haven’t lost my “Soulmate” because that is bullshit to begin with, and that women are fungible at least partly. Don’t get me wrong, I really do feel like I lost by best friend and have times of sadness. It certainly helps to realize that “Little Miss Perktits/Tight Ass/Tighter Wetter Pussy” is out there, and I’ll be fucking her soon enough.
I’d add that my Red Pill perspective also clues me in to what awaits my soon to be ex-wife who is 43 going on 53 in terms of her menopausal stage and very overweight (we started dating when she was 32 with the body of a fitness model). Schadenfreude is probably the wrong term since I don’t actively wish her a horrible experience in the SMP, but I do know she is in for a very rude awakening once she tests the dating waters.
But yeah, you are absolutely right. The fact of the matter is many “Red Pill” guys are going to form strong emotional bonds with women, and it will hurt when those bonds are severed unless you are a psychopath who doesn’t feel emotions like love, affection, etc. But the most powerful thing about the Red Pill perspective is knowing you will be JUST FINE and that truly the world is filled with other female options.
Anyone who’s read my post What’s Your Problem? probably has a good idea of what motivated me to write what I do going on 16 years now, but when I read stories like this and I get emails or Tweets to let me know how what I’ve made men aware of has somehow changed or saved a man’s life it’s always a humbling experience. As I’ve stated in both my books, I’m not in the business of making better men, I’m in the business of helping men become better men themselves. No formulas, no Top Ten Ways to,… lists, just actionable intelligence; but that information still requires a man come to applying it to his own life in a way which works for him.
Even if all Logic gets from my work is the sense of confidence that he has the right intel about how he can better direct his life despite any momentary downside I consider that a success of my intent as a Red Pill writer. When you look at the appalling statistics of male suicide and you understand the correlation of it with the rise of a feminine-primary social order that teaches men to loathe their own gender and accept their superfluousness, knowing that the Red Pill can provide some insulation against it is encouraging. My first reflex when I read a story like that of Morpheus is to presume the man is a suicide risk; his response to his situation is an example of how Red Pill awareness is not just an exercise in warning and preparing men of what to expect, but also a safety net in case a man must deal with the worst.
From the 16 Commandments of Poon
VII. Always keep two in the kitty
Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.
As I get closer to completing whats become a herculean task of finishing this book (it’s now at 340 pages!) I’m taking some time to reflect on what I’ve done not just with this new book, but what I’ve built in the Manosphere for over 15 years now. I may be one of the 3 ‘R’s of the ‘sphere, some might say I’m the godfather of the Red Pill and my work is required reading for the Red Pill Reddit sub, but I’ll never be comfortable with all that so long as there are guys who are still despondent in their Blue Pill paradigm. The Red Pill is ‘open source’ and its strength lies in its decentralized way of openly debating and testing the strength of ideas. I’m humbled that many men have had their lives changed by what I write, but it’s really a testament to their own resolve – all I do is connect dots, remember?
If it’s not too much to ask, for this week’s comment thread I’d like to get some feedback on how the Red Pill has changed your life. Maybe it’s been my work, maybe it’s due to others in the ‘sphere, but as I get closer to finishing book three I wanted to get men’s Red Pill testimonies, so to speak, to help with the summation of the book.
Thanks.
“I did that back in 2015 when I reset and stopped drinking alcohol for 3.5 months. I used farming (planting a couple acres of deer food plots in August), music, good relationship with wife, sex, parenting, good guy friends and athletic exercise, golfing, and exciting hobbies to do a workaround the singular dopamine hit.” Respectfully, SJF, I don’t think that is a list of dopamine fixes. Dopamine isn’t the only game in town. It’s a fight or flight chemical (as a doctor you know this, so…I’m kind of surprised you’re saying it?). There is also oxytocin and serotonin. I think… Read more »
Just to add, “addiction” probably isn’t the right word for habit pattern…a better word would probably be “association”. But that association can be really strong.
That’s why positive habit patterns are important. Once you start working out every day, you want to work out every day. Emotion is also a component of that.
Happy environments make for happier people, and vice versa. No surprise there but folks don’t often think about it. It’s why success typically leads to more success.
@anon
Good call. If cortisol is high, which happens when you stop catering to your addiction, then you need comfort-producing experiences which produce oxytocin and the like and you need distractions which produce dopamine to reduce the relative signal of cortisol. Do exciting stuff and stuff that makes you content.
“You only need to “kill your Ego” when your ego is fucking you over.”
Your ego is always fucking you over to some extent. Any and all negative emotions are caused by ego. Ego is the only “problem” in the whole world. Apparently I really suck at explaining how and why though.
@Joe K: “Who among you has put yourself through that kind of trial-by-fire?” Julien was denied entry into foreign countries, I had to flee my native country. My death threats didn’t come in the form of Internet missives, they came in the form of actual Facist men bearing full auto rifles and the authority to use them under colour of Facist law. Julien has been wearing his “face tattoo” for about three yeas, I’ve been wearing mine for more than that many decades. Holy crap! I just Googled a bit of the literature I appear in and the “acceptable” paperback… Read more »
“Any and all negative emotions are caused by ego.”
I should add a caveat here… Any negative emotions that aren’t directly related to physical survival are caused by ego.
I don’t disagree anon. It’s just labeling. Maybe my workarounds are other healthy substitutes for dopamine addiction. Lower stress and good emotions and positive habit patterns lead to being able to not be as habit prone or not solely focused on one thing. Similar brain mechanisms are involved in habit and addiction even if they aren’t the same. A lot of how the brain evolved to allow humans to survive like they did. And those normal operating firmware elements leads to habit and addictions in a prosperous society different from the environment that evolved our brains. A balance life with… Read more »
“Any negative emotions that aren’t directly related to physical survival are caused by ego.”
Please define “negative emotion”.
Remorse? Anger? Pride? Ambition?
“Your ego is always fucking you over to some extent.”
It is also always saving your ass to some extent. Even The Buddha(tm) didn’t achieve full enlightenment until he died.
“Any negative emotions that aren’t directly related to physical survival are caused by ego.”
This is an error. Ego is personal physical survival. That is its proper function, why it exists in the first place.
Addendum:
And that is why it is so hard to let go of. It provokes a fight or flight response. Letting go of the Ego is death and death is letting go of the Ego.
“Please define “negative emotion”.
Remorse? Anger? Pride? Ambition?”
Yep, all of the above. Pick one and I can try to explain why.
P.S.:
I also note that characterizing Ego as the source of any negative emotions is a type of error, because it is equally the source of any positive emotions.
“And that is why it is so hard to let go of. It provokes a fight or flight response. Letting go of the Ego is death and death is letting go of the Ego.”
Not from what I understand… It’s the death of self. Not the body.
I will always reject any bullshit prescription that all men must kill their ego because it is harmful or false. Some people have ego issues. Some people have self esteem issues. Some people have * name issue of choice*. Not understanding what ego is functionally leads to defining a problem that will not exist so much in the wider populace. Living life by allowing your job title, salary, where you live, your bank account, what you drive, or even what your family has done in the past – for some people this is a huge problem that fucks up their… Read more »
“I also note that characterizing Ego as the source of any negative emotions is a type of error, because it is equally the source of any positive emotions.”
Nope… There are the false positive emotions like those quick hit highs you get from egoic “achievements” or whatever you want to call it. But there’s a deeper sense of “rightness” or “strength” beyond the ego. I would call that a positive emotion.
Thanks kfg. There seems to be stubborn misconceptions about ego.
@Andy: “Not from what I understand… It’s the death of self. Not the body.”
I wrote in response to the words you wrote (not to your Ego as I am doing now) because your understanding is in error. You can begin to understand what I am saying when you withdraw your spiritual head from New Age Seeker’s metaphorical arse.
“You can begin to understand what I am saying when you withdraw your spiritual head from New Age Seeker’s metaphorical arse.”
I’ve been pretty careful not to say anything here that I haven’t experienced and know 100%. What exactly do you have beef with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u4Mmv90BWc
Seems that people having a “problem” with ego also have problems with mastery on one hand or motive on the other.
@Andy: “I’ve been pretty careful not to say anything here that I haven’t experienced and know 100%.” As your Ego wishes you to know, in order to lead you to one of the forms of False Enlightenment that it finds more desirable. The experience is not as rare as you might think. The “Little Nirvana” is actually quite common. Interpreting what it means without the intrusion of Maya is another story. “What exactly do you have beef with?” Saying it three times isn’t what will get you from here to there. Look, there’s this guy who is only known as… Read more »
“As your Ego wishes you to know, in order to lead you to one of the forms of False Enlightenment that it finds more desirable. The experience is not as rare as you might think. The “Little Nirvana” is actually quite common. Interpreting what it means without the intrusion of Maya is another story.” Never said I was enlightened. Never said it was rare. I’m not talking about “waking up”. I’m talking about everything I’ve realized since then. Nothing that I’ve said isn’t true. Me becoming attached to some new age spiritual guy identity is your judgement. I pointed out… Read more »
PUA is what about picking up girls for sex. Part of Red Pill. Keeping LTRs is part of Red Pill. Keeping a wife turned on for ever (good luck) is Red Pill. Not PUA territory though, if you ask me.
“Me becoming attached to some new age spiritual guy identity is your judgement.”
“… Any negative emotions that aren’t directly related to physical survival are caused by ego.”
Q.E.D.
@kfg
Are you enlightened?
““Please define “negative emotion”.
Remorse? Anger? Pride? Ambition?”
Yep, all of the above. Pick one and I can try to explain why.”
That’s okay, I’m pretty sure I know your answer.
Could you please now explain what “real positive emotion” is, by contrast?
@ cheupez What I have observed, mostly in comment sections including this one, is that when men find pua first. and work hard to try to understand and master it, they appear to all have a very strange idea of how female biology works, or they don’t care at all as long as she lays down and spreads her legs. Which is absolutely fine. Nothing at all wrong with that. But the odd thing that I’ve noticed is that many ( not all ) pua’s eschew actual masculinity in favor of a more cartoonish variety. Like the one the FI… Read more »
@anon
I’ll answer at the risk of offending kfg that I dare share some wisdom despite not being enlightened…
What I’ve experienced so far is that it’s kind of an everything is as it should be, even keeled, happy/contented feeling.
I categorically reject the notion anger is a negative emotion
Anger is the man fuel that keeps your engine going, driving you to be better, to achieve more, to be more, to beat the unbeatable and win at life
Your ego is as healthy as you are
If you are fucked in the head your ego is shit
If you are healthy in body, mind and soul your ego is healthy, right, just and good
The notion that ego and anger are bad in and of themselves is pure bitch speak
But the odd thing that I’ve noticed is that many ( not all ) pua’s eschew actual masculinity in favor of a more cartoonish variety. Like the one the FI would have everyone believe in.
Blax
…….
Gospel
“What I’ve experienced so far is that it’s kind of an everything is as it should be, even keeled, happy/contented feeling.”
What if that happy/contented feeling is the result of a sense of accomplishment after obtaining a goal?
But you’ve just established that pride and ambition are negative things.
What you’re describing sounds an awful lot like something out of Brave New World, post-soma.
@Ton
I categorically reject the notion anger is a negative emotion
Anger can be either positive or negative. If anger causes you to start bar fights, break your shit, or pop someone because of road rage, it’s negative. If you have triggers that allow others to create anger in you in order to manipulate you, that’s negative. If you use anger to improve yourself or further your mission, that’s positive.
How you manifest your anger determines whether it’s positive or negative for you.
They probaly had it coming
“What if that happy/contented feeling is the result of a sense of accomplishment after obtaining a goal?” It’s different than that. More constant. Deeper… “But you’ve just established that pride and ambition are negative things. What you’re describing sounds an awful lot like something out of Brave New World, post-soma.” Ambition… Not necessarily bad. Like I would say I have ambition to get to the truth of who I really am. Ambition could also be a good thing in the sense that if you’re ambitious to achieve certain outer goals it may lead to the realization that outer goals don’t… Read more »
““What if that happy/contented feeling is the result of a sense of accomplishment after obtaining a goal?”
It’s different than that. More constant. Deeper…”
For YOU.
You have no idea what a sense of accomplishment and purpose does for others.
You only know how your “new enlightenment” makes you feel, specifically, by contrast to how you felt before when you were doing things different (which isn’t necessarily the way others view their lives or run their lives).
Yes, you are projecting.
Or maybe you are just a dickwad with a snotty make believe superiority complex toward anyone whom doesnt buy into your hippie new age bullshit
Andy to kfg
Are you enlightened?
Best I can do on short notice. Audio could be better.
” Anyway… I guess it’s possible that people just enjoy pretending they’re someone they’re not. I can’t fathom that so maybe I project that a bit.
See? There’s that shit right there.
@ Andy
Serious question ( although I already know the answer from your past comments and our discussions here at trm ) – Did you spend a lot of time pretending in life? Not understanding who you are/were? Pretending to be someone you weren’t?
Serious question.
@ anon ” For YOU. You have no idea what a sense of accomplishment and purpose does for others. You only know how your “new enlightenment” makes you feel, specifically, by contrast to how you felt before when you were doing things different (which isn’t necessarily the way others view their lives or run their lives). Yes, you are projecting. “ Absolutely. This is what I’ve been trying to get at with Andy. The supposition that everyone lives life, thinks, and does things the exact same way. It comes from living in and growing up inside a bubble, until something… Read more »
@Andy I’m still busy as f*k, and don’t really have time for this, but I just happened to pop in for a break, aaand… you’re still stuck… let me try to translate for kfg and Blaximus… how’s that FI treatin’ ya?…lol… your ‘ego’ is the program/algo that is tasked with keeping you ‘safe’ in a World of Danger ™… it includes ALL the emotions – negative and positive (and labeling your emotions like that is based on social conditioning… bc they are only effective/not effective…to ‘solve’ your situ/problem…) – bc those emotional responses are your system’s problem-solving subroutines wrt group/situ… Read more »
“The explanations I’ve seen provided by RSD and others, do not delve into the psyche. The attitude is more like ” who cares?”
*googles rsdtyler break up*
>the video I would watch and go on with my shit:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkoKtDirvzI&w=854&h=480%5D
>the video someone who wastes too much time on youtube would watch:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyZajdTGTU&w=854&h=480%5D
Seriously, guys, you need to start using search engines. They have revolutionized the way people can learn things.
How to get over a girl?
Dump that bitch and bang 10 more. Don’t require a 7 minute video
@SFC Ton
“How to get over a girl? Dump that bitch and bang 10 more. Don’t require a 7 minute video”
Is SFCTon a PUA? (The attitude is more like ” who cares?)
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkoKtDirvzI&w=557&h=480%5D
Uhhh…. nope.
Wtf is he actually talking about?
” lay back and enjoy it and be cooolll….” Lol.
He’s not explaining much at all. Guys won’t grasp why they manage to get shit on in the first place. So they will probably get shit on again.
Yeah, you should just ” let ’em go ” and move on in the end, but what happened? Why did it happen? And why can’t you ask HER ???
Your not just getting shit on because ” women “. There’s something that’s not understood.
Or.. like… whatever.
For me this short “move on” video is enough. The video you are talking about is the second one you didn’t watch.
“They have revolutionized the way people can learn things.”
That’s the third good laugh I’ve gotten out of this thread this afternoon.
My n count is way to high to be a pua
@Blax
Your not just getting shit on because ” women “.
You’re getting shit on because you failed too many shit tests. Do I really need to watch the vid to find out whether or not Tyler explained this?
Since we’re talking about getting shit on…relationships…shit tests…I’m smashing them every Saturday and Sunday…here’s how it works for me… I go out…Mrs. Gamer freezes if I approach her that night before and after…even though I know she will freeze, I approach her to let her know that I am calibrating and affectionate…she still stays up to let me in the front door until 12:30…power was out so can’t come in through the garage…she has a candle burning for me to use…next morning she is still cold and I don’t approach but give her a brief caress when I pass…I may… Read more »
I took two days off TRM to do fun shit with buddies, enjoy the summer weather and fuck the living hell out of my girl. My reaction today morning seeing the REPLAY of 2016’s debates was a shallow laugh with a bit of eye roll. I guess I also just don’t get too wrapped up in PUA arguments. I would rather do something fun, which may include getting laid. @Mersonia wrote: “Alot of OMG’s just got divorce raped ,followed the plan and expect young men to do the same while pretending to have some secret life knowledge.” And followed with… Read more »
@ Roused
Well done sir.
@Roused
Inspirational!
@Roused
Wonderful field report. Cudos!
It’s good to be the king and that shit right there Roused makes you the king
Great job Roused. I’m proud of you. Roused and I spent two hours talking about Red Pill concepts last Thursday evening after I spent a hard day at work. My wife was pissed that I was spending time with him on the phone. (She explained she wanted to spend the evening time with me.) She was fine the next day and we had a wonderful Friday and Saturday. Bad emotions created when doing your own thing blow over like a storm. Roused has spent some time this last 10 months with the discomfort and disillusion and uncomfortable realizations that red… Read more »
@SJF
Bad emotions created when doing your own thing blow over like a storm.
Try going out dancing without your wife with her knowledge and see how you handle it. Not trying to be a dick, but I think it would be a really good test of your game for your own edification.
Some things in Christianity make a lot more sense to me now, like self-improvement is edification, but men working together to improve each other is also edification. Meta Game.
@ ASDGamer “Try going out dancing without your wife with her knowledge and see how you handle it. Not trying to be a dick, but I think it would be a really good test of your game for your own edification.” We can debate the definition of “dancing”, but I do that all the time. I go out and dance with nature, “dance” in discussion with tribal with guy friends and hobbies, as well as interact with women both with her and without her. There are infinite possibilities for “takeaways” when going out “dancing” without your wife. IOW, “dancing” is… Read more »
I went to Wally World for groceries and went thru a checkout where there was the cutest black spinner I’ve ever seen. (Black spinners are rare in my locale. Most black women around here are tall and/or meaty and/or chubby) Tiny chin, high cheekbones, 5’2″, maybe 100 lbs. I was surprised to find that I was involuntarily gaming her. lol She was definitely taking notice and not at all displeased.
@SJF
So, does your wife see you hold other women? Does she smell their perfume on you?
This has been my experience: Cliques of guys that I know who are game savvy and are married keep walking into strange pussy here and there, now and then. Game savvy men who are married are like women. They dont know when it is going to happen, they do not even expect it to happen. It just happens. It is not in the plan. [He walks everywhere with his wedding ring on. The women dont give a fuck for rings on a guy. Party time. He is in a club alone chatting with a bouncer. A girl keeps checking him… Read more »
@ Rollo
To me, education means “to bring forth from within” and that pretty much describes what you’ve done for me. For the last two years I’ve been reading all of TRM posts/books I’ve seen dramatic changes in my life. I’ve gone from being at the end of my rope to realizing my potential and making the tools to build it. I’ve gotten way more out of your free material than all of my over-priced education put together. What you do is priceless. If you ever need anything man I owe you a future.
” @Mersonia wrote: “Alot of OMG’s just got divorce raped ,followed the plan and expect young men to do the same while pretending to have some secret life knowledge.” And followed with this: “One of these days you’ll respond to comment instead of ranting about who knows what thats not related to my comment.” For fucks sake stop being a whiny bitch. Haven’t you been around long enough to have seen this entire dialogue get replayed over and over already?” Oooh the girl I wanted tonight flaked so I got some time. Yes, I’ve seen this dialog played out over… Read more »
@ASD
Dance your way into some pussy then call me…. or shit go do a field report without dancing at all and tell me how it went….
As someone who has read Rollo’s essays and tried to internalise them I had started to worry whether masculinity was endangered, perhaps even extinct except in certain corners of the internet. That’s why it was like a second sunrise this morning when I read the news reports that my country (The Netherlands) has started a campaign of Public Service Announcements that warns parents to let boys be boys. The article featured a string of highly placed scientists and the head of the department that developed the campaign all saying things that will sound familiar to Rational Male readers. They warned… Read more »
@mersonia
Once you’ve been able to be with one girl for more than 7 years and are still getting frequent sex (say, 3-4 times a week), maybe you’ve learned a little game…call me…not saying you have to be exclusive to her
Notice how mersonia is buffering and giving excuses for why he can’t keep a girl or satisfy her hypergamy for a LTR.
“habd: that you are absolutely positive (know 100%) that you “‘aren’t there yet’ but are on the right path to get there”… when that is not even close to accurate… this path that you are on is not unknown… and you aren’t the first man to make the trek/get lost/proselytize the correctness of your direction…” @habd I’m not backing off of what I said. All this red pill theory, all the PUA stuff, every single game concept boils down to just a few spiritual truths/concepts… It’s all incredibly simple. It’s relevant, universal and directly applicable to everything that is talked… Read more »
@Anon01 – way back somewhere you asked about whether RSD’s hotseats/bootcamps were redundant now. I don’t think so. Depending on where they are incorporated etc they may have publicly filed accounts which will tell us a lot, but I can’t be bothered to look it up and dig them out. I’m basically guessing here, but it seems to me that their Hotseats/Bootcamps/live programs are low-volume/high-margin premium services with an extremely high profit margin ($6000 for 3 days work on a bootcamp for 3 students – basically zero overheads or equipment – some travel costs for the instructor and a bit… Read more »
@mersonia If you can get a girl lit up, then it’s only a question of logistics. When girls throw 2 shit tests at you rapid fire, they are thinking about fucking you…I talked about how the HB8-9 threw 2 at me rapid fire right after I asked her to dance…she wanted me to smash those tests…I ignored the first and smashed the second and she wanted a hug afterwards…but still not lit up enough even though she was pleased when I chatted with her briefly later…definitely an entitled princess and I didn’t like her and I’m demisexual so no chemistry… Read more »
@Asd
“I’m demisexual so no chemistry on my side no matter her looks”
…….I’m just going to assume this is a fancy way of saying your dick doesn’t work.
and…………………
@mersonia
You can say whatever shit fills your mind…it’s a free country, lol
@mersonia
Even though you’re fixated on my dick, you ain’t getting a date.
@Andy @habd I’m not backing off of what I said. All this red pill theory, all the PUA stuff, every single game concept boils down to just a few spiritual truths/concepts… It’s all incredibly simple. It’s relevant, universal and directly applicable to everything that is talked about here… and more. Everyone is on the same journey whether they think they are or not, whether they want to be or not. Take it or leave it. Peace. all that shit’s true, but you are still missing the point… bc none of THAT matters if you are not taking ACTION… to live… Read more »
Cheupez ” Game savvy men who are married are like women. They don’t know when it is going to happen, they do not even expect it to happen. It just happens. It is not in the plan.” This should apply to all men, married or not. Live your life, be aware and go after what you want when you see it. The whole “Saturday Night have to go out and open – run game – do my reps” is ultimately counter productive if you never break out of it. Sure you need to do The Hard Work ™ and get… Read more »
@Culum Struan
Thanks!
“Wahhhhh, I wasn’t born rich or good-looking! I can’t use game to make women think I’m rich or good-looking, therefore, game is worthless!”
~Eugene
LeQuin, if you have a link to an online version of that article it would be great to see.
@ASDGamer “@SJF So, does your wife see you hold other women? Does she smell their perfume on you?” The answer to that is no. There is a reason for that, though. I have been able to go through the 12 step plan outlined by MRP BluePillProfessor. Now I didn’t actually go through the steps after reading the plan. Since the plan is a distillation of the best of the Manosphere (including Rollo), I had already been through them over three years prior to reading his book. The 12 steps were just codified there, but well know as touch-points and tactics.… Read more »
Life continues…
“The fools mate thing is very interesting.” a lot of the older game stuff is. some fuckface was wondering if I use game. my goal, because of my specific tastes, situation etc is aldous snow level game, i.e., the sober prenegotiation of threesomes (with hb8+) “Personally I was never big on gaming chicks in bars and clubs under influence of music and alcohol. That’s like shooting fish in a barrel imo.” for me the issue is frame. sex is about power, and as the fool, she is incapable of actually ceding it. this makes the encounter ultimately unsatisfying for both… Read more »
From level 9 and on is really lost course. Not worth it. Plain wrong. By the time you have to overtly tell your wife, “fuck me or else…” you should already be so sexually satisfied from fucking other women that this would be pointless. You should be coming home with a sheepy smile and chatting your wife to her full satisfaction and when you get to bed you just keel over and sleep like a damn kitten. Wife pussy is old pussy anyway. A wife that does not want to fuck her husband gives him the ammunition he needs to… Read more »
Drunk ONS girls cum. Real cum, wet pussy all the way to soaked butt and sheets. And they come back for more. Even 7 years later when they are already married to someone else, they come back for more. I am speaking from experience.
Once you’ve been able to be with one girl for more than 7 years and are still getting frequent sex (say, 3-4 times a week), ……….. Women are depreciating assets so why keep one for 7 years? If you can get a girl lit up, then it’s only a question of logistics. When girls throw 2 shit tests at you rapid fire, they are thinking about fucking you ……….. And you know that because of all the 20 year old bar bitches you banged last week? This trying to rank ysg game vs omg game is fucking stupid but it… Read more »
Oh yeah Cheupez. Fuck em right once and they are in love for life. Get them sort of repete bidness offers on the regular
“Not so much like shooting fish in a barrel, more like putting lube on for anal… ” if she’s not generating enough lube for anal you’re doing it wrong “If lube is good for attacking the rear, etOH is great lube for the mind. The timid girl who couldnt get the guts to say hi to you will get the guts of a porn star, strip dancing and spreading her ass in front of your/her phone camera.” and if guys knew deep down they are all sober porn stars they’d stop going to work “I haven’t been fucked like that… Read more »
@fleezer “if you fuck her she wins.” Are you by any chance Canadian? lol If you want to bang a chick, and she wants to get the D, too, then you are both in the same frame. This is a win-win scenario. What the fuck are you even talking about? Also, you can “game” chicks in a Mormon church during the day without any alcohol whatsoever. Game wasn’t inventent in a night club. As Senti mentioned above, you’re supposed to do it whenever and wherever. The only reason PUAs do it in a night club is because it’s a “target”… Read more »
“This trying to rank ysg game vs omg game is fucking stupid but it sounds extra stupid to read it takes more game to keep some depreciating asset around” entering/exiting asset markets at the right time is the whole human game. being early is the same as being wrong and someone will always be left holding the bag. real property, company equity, collectibles, women. all the same. a man should never borrow money to buy a truck unless that truck is going to generate revenue sufficient to pay for itself, borrowing costs and a profit. you should only ever inverst… Read more »
“Game wasn’t inventent in a night club.” Circa half the people in the world are women, and as most of these women come and go as they please circa half the people you meet will be women. Game On! You might just call it having fun with your life. Give it a try, it’s, ya know, fun and shit. Oddly enough, I go to a nightclub once a month or three, but it’s pretty much full of 55+ women I wouldn’t fuck with someone else’s ten foot dick. It’s free big band night at the jazz club. I’ll tease the… Read more »
“then you are both in the same frame” impossible. one is always dominant. “This is a win-win scenario” impossible in the battle of the sexes. zero sum. “What the fuck are you even talking about?” everything I post if fictional and for entertainment purposes only. “Also, you can “game” chicks in a Mormon church during the day without any alcohol whatsoever. Game wasn’t inventent in a night club. As Senti mentioned above, you’re supposed to do it whenever and wherever. The only reason PUAs do it in a night club is because it’s a “target” rich environment that allows for… Read more »
Just noticing typo up there meant “lost cause”.
@fleezer I wrote a post on human mating…https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/sexual-macrodynamics/…at least one person really found it clear and accurate…a British lawyer, lol Basically, the male must dominate the female. With squirrels, the test is wrestling and energy…with deer, the bucks run the does…same with bears as with deer…wolves run and wrestle and nip…humans grapple…male and female attempt to unbalance the other…you should plan to make the woman lose her mental balance…spinning a woman in a dance does this…qualifying a woman does this…negging a woman does this…push/pull does this… Do you see a pattern? Game is really nothing more than normal human mating.… Read more »
@ton Women are depreciating assets so why keep one for 7 years? vows or to test your game skills And you know that because of all the 20 year old bar bitches you banged last week? can’t post my hypothetical bidness on da interwebz…I dint do it nobody saw me do it you cant prove anything it sounds extra stupid to read it takes more game to keep some depreciating asset around I think I hit a nerve. 1. All women depreciate after finishing puberty–about 14-16 y.o. Why would you invest your time in any broad older than 16 y.o.?… Read more »
Some things about women’s bodies that you might not know… …the clitoris grows until a woman reaches her early 30s…the part inside a woman that wraps the vaj and has two wings that extend to her hip joints–not the little outer sensitive shaft …when a woman who has delivered a child orgasms, her inner parts mushroom and lose shape and it feels like you’re trying to fuck a jar of molasses…even the smallest movement on your part sends waves of pleasure through her… …but only if she feels like you’re dominant (if you’re submissive to her, failing her shit tests,… Read more »
LOL you couldn’t hit a nerve with a road map. You have no idea what it takes to bang 9 new chicks in 7 days…. besides some luck on top of frame. You are literally talking out your ass on this subject because you aren’t out there pulling new ass.
Which is ok, not where you are in life etc and that’s cool just realize you come across as an ass when you talk about pulling ass when you aren’t out pulling ass yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AlDqFgQnqQ
Human Story’s and cross cutting human story and action.
@anon
“If you want to bang a chick, and she wants to get the D, too, then you are both in the same frame. This is a win-win scenario. What the fuck are you even talking about?”
It’s for sure a win win. But I would disagree that it’s always a scenario where you’re in the same Frame. It can be, no doubt. I can speak for my recent experiences where one can have the dominant Frame.
I need a few days to let my nuts rest.
The comment that any woman is capable of anything resonates so much with me. I am 50 and have a lifetime of memories. Fucking women with their finances in the next room, blow jobs in public parks, anything and everything. Over the years it has always been terrific and wild and fun. But I got tired of gaming and it led to a different approach. The phrase when a woman wants to fuck you know it is so true. And a woman who makes you wait for sex is not worth the sex is also true. But a woman who… Read more »
@Ton You have no idea what it takes to bang 9 new chicks in 7 days…. logistics You are literally talking out your ass on this subject because you aren’t out there pulling new ass. new ass, old married ass, the shit tests are the same, the girl being lit up is the same, AWALT, biology is the same, the only diff is logistics the problem most men have with LTRs is that they think that they have bought the car when they’ve only rented it…the car requires maintenance and being driven just like when they were at the dealer…game… Read more »