Presently I’m putting the final touches on my third book, The Rational Male – Positive Masculinity. I’m now going through the final proofing stages of the print version while I await the reformatting for the digital version. As if that weren’t enough, this time of year tends to be my busiest with regard to promo gigs and brand developments stuff for my “real” job. So if my posts for the next couple of weeks seem a bit sporadic that’s why.
In the midst of this, however, I came across a comment by a long time lurker, Logic, that dovetailed so perfectly with the Afterword of the new book so well that I’ve decided to quote parts of it in the book:
I don’t comment a lot in this blog. However, I think it is important to make a comment that many will probably disagree with but is certainly true for me.
If you ask someone what is the greatest benefit he gained by reading Rollo’s articles, I am sure that you will get various responses:
“I finally got laid”
“I managed to successfully spin plates”
“I understood the true nature of women”
“I stopped giving a fuck and focused on myself (and the women came after)”
…etc
I am sure that all of these are true, not the least reason being that I have experienced these benefits myself.
However, if I may suggest an unpopular opinion, the greatest benefit that one gets from reading Rollo’s article is the fact that you are giving yourself a safety net. And the most important thing in my opinion is that you give yourself this safety net EVEN IF you don’t truly believe what Rollo writes.
If I may elaborate briefly, by safety net I mean LITERALLY safety net. The safety net’s purpose is not for you not to fall. It is for you not to DIE after you have fallen. I believe this is an important distinction (and forgive me Rollo if you have touched on this in one of your articles already). At least for me this is HUGE.
There is a nontrivial probability that you ARE going to fall. Unless you really swear to not EVER feel ANY emotional connection with a woman, then it is highly likely that at some point you WILL fall in love with a girl. Sure, I am positive that many guys will consider that this is something that they can control now that they are Red Pill aware, but you MAY at some point fall in love and you WILL lose your “cool” (btw if you don’t want to call it love call it infatuation; there will be a girl whose combination of laughter, looks, mannerisms and personality will produce this to you; if you want to deny it go ahead and you may be right. But as I said this is just MY humble opinion).
So where does the whole “safety net” come into play? Well, it comes into play when things go south. You WILL loose your cool and she might not notice but then again she also may notice. You will think that this girl is different. Again, it is easy to say that AWALT, but you are not dealing with a bunch of 1s and 0s. It is a human being, standing in front of you, with a personality, with a voice, with interests, opinions and the like. So your brain will tell you that THIS one is different.
And when it turns out that she is not, and she goes cold or dumps you, or cheats on you, then my friend you are going to be JUST FINE. Because you have a safety net. I am not saying that you won’t be sad (you will) but you won’t try to throw yourself under a bridge. The safety net is placed there for a simple reason. The reason is that, in the beginning stages of your infatuation, before you started thinking that she is “not like that”, a little voice inside of you said “You have read about this situation in the Rational Male brother. This may be an illusion. Be careful”.
Yes, you muted that voice for a while, but you never killed it. And when the inevitable happened this little voice came back and said ” Oh well. We knew it. Nothing wrong with giving it a shot. Now let’s move on. Hey check out Little Miss Perkytits at the counter.”
I know that many of you will laugh at this but, to me at least this is a big deal. I also think that the analogy of the safety net is pretty accurate. Even if all of Rollo’s writings hadn’t helped me AT ALL with getting laid, improving myself etc and THE ONLY benefit was gaining that safety net, I think that reading Rollo’s articles would have still bee very much worth it.
I thought this metaphor of a safety net was apt. The history that comes after a man has unplugged himself from his old Blue Pill mindset is in some ways more poignant that what a man does while he is still trapped in his old way of thinking. It’s easier to forgive yourself of the decisions you made in Blue Pill ignorance, but when you become Red Pill aware you own those decisions. As Logic points out, you can only read and absorb what I or any other Red Pill author has to relate to you – at some point you’re going to either consciously or not put this new awareness into practice.
As such you’re bound to make mistakes or false starts. No one makes it on their first jump. It takes time and practice along with an educated Red Pill awareness to internalize and transition into a new way of life. One reason I wrote A New Hope was to help newly unplugged men get past the anger and nihilism stages of unplugging, but also to warn them that the want to achieve the old Blue Pill idealistic hopes will be a strong impulse until they come into a new understanding of Red Pill, realistic, hopes for themselves. In that stage, and even after, there will always be mistakes and falls along the way.
The difference now is that you have a new confidence in the knowledge that Red Pill awareness provides for you. Whereas before you struggled with both a lack of understanding intersexual dynamics and the deliberate misdirection of you ever understanding it, now you have the Red Pill Lens. Now you have a perspective that in most ways insulates you from ever thinking your situation is hopeless. Red Pill awareness provides you with a map and a safety net that allows you to make accurate corrections to your Game, to your relationships and to your life no matter if you fall, no matter your temporary setback. Many a disingenuous critic would have men believe the Red Pill is all about anger or fomenting a belief that men are victims of an unfair system, but what they conveniently ignore is the overwhelmingly positive effect Red Pill awareness has in men’s lives. A great source of confidence comes from a man knowing he’s been emancipated from a Blue Pill paradigm that’s conditioned him to blind himself to its influence.
Reader, and long-time friend, Morpheus responded with this:
Exactly right. All of it!
My 2nd marriage recently ended (about 6 weeks ago my wife left me and informed me she was filing for divorce) and to be honest I’ve sort of surprised myself just how emotionally unaffected I’ve been compared to my first marriage ending (which was before Red Pill, Rollo, and Rational Male). I’ve actually had multiple people comment incredulously at just how well I am doing. I’ve recommitted to a much more intense and frequent workout regimen, and am down about 20 pounds in those 6 weeks.
I credit my Red Pill perspective for enabling me to stay relatively stoic about it all, and refocus on something positive. I think it helps that I realize I haven’t lost my “Soulmate” because that is bullshit to begin with, and that women are fungible at least partly. Don’t get me wrong, I really do feel like I lost by best friend and have times of sadness. It certainly helps to realize that “Little Miss Perktits/Tight Ass/Tighter Wetter Pussy” is out there, and I’ll be fucking her soon enough.
I’d add that my Red Pill perspective also clues me in to what awaits my soon to be ex-wife who is 43 going on 53 in terms of her menopausal stage and very overweight (we started dating when she was 32 with the body of a fitness model). Schadenfreude is probably the wrong term since I don’t actively wish her a horrible experience in the SMP, but I do know she is in for a very rude awakening once she tests the dating waters.
But yeah, you are absolutely right. The fact of the matter is many “Red Pill” guys are going to form strong emotional bonds with women, and it will hurt when those bonds are severed unless you are a psychopath who doesn’t feel emotions like love, affection, etc. But the most powerful thing about the Red Pill perspective is knowing you will be JUST FINE and that truly the world is filled with other female options.
Anyone who’s read my post What’s Your Problem? probably has a good idea of what motivated me to write what I do going on 16 years now, but when I read stories like this and I get emails or Tweets to let me know how what I’ve made men aware of has somehow changed or saved a man’s life it’s always a humbling experience. As I’ve stated in both my books, I’m not in the business of making better men, I’m in the business of helping men become better men themselves. No formulas, no Top Ten Ways to,… lists, just actionable intelligence; but that information still requires a man come to applying it to his own life in a way which works for him.
Even if all Logic gets from my work is the sense of confidence that he has the right intel about how he can better direct his life despite any momentary downside I consider that a success of my intent as a Red Pill writer. When you look at the appalling statistics of male suicide and you understand the correlation of it with the rise of a feminine-primary social order that teaches men to loathe their own gender and accept their superfluousness, knowing that the Red Pill can provide some insulation against it is encouraging. My first reflex when I read a story like that of Morpheus is to presume the man is a suicide risk; his response to his situation is an example of how Red Pill awareness is not just an exercise in warning and preparing men of what to expect, but also a safety net in case a man must deal with the worst.
From the 16 Commandments of Poon
VII. Always keep two in the kitty
Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.
As I get closer to completing whats become a herculean task of finishing this book (it’s now at 340 pages!) I’m taking some time to reflect on what I’ve done not just with this new book, but what I’ve built in the Manosphere for over 15 years now. I may be one of the 3 ‘R’s of the ‘sphere, some might say I’m the godfather of the Red Pill and my work is required reading for the Red Pill Reddit sub, but I’ll never be comfortable with all that so long as there are guys who are still despondent in their Blue Pill paradigm. The Red Pill is ‘open source’ and its strength lies in its decentralized way of openly debating and testing the strength of ideas. I’m humbled that many men have had their lives changed by what I write, but it’s really a testament to their own resolve – all I do is connect dots, remember?
If it’s not too much to ask, for this week’s comment thread I’d like to get some feedback on how the Red Pill has changed your life. Maybe it’s been my work, maybe it’s due to others in the ‘sphere, but as I get closer to finishing book three I wanted to get men’s Red Pill testimonies, so to speak, to help with the summation of the book.
Thanks.
Oh, and this –
” If you were who you think you are you wouldn’t be rankle-able at all.”
I am who I have proven myself ( to myself ) to be over time and circumstance.
Illusions are for magicians.
Sooner or later a TRM post gets philosophical on multiple levels, and it’s a ton of fun. No pun Ton.
Common ground of many stories in this thread – you can’t function effectively until you let it go. Oneitis, anger phase, revenge impulse, desire to make red pill knowledge fulfill blue pill ideals…Reconstruction series anyone?
Nihilism/fatalism – or liberty/freedom of action?
@ Ton ” Not to start a religion deal but that is why I have always been a fan of Proverbs and the Stoics. Real do this, don’t do that, be this, don’t be that nuts and bolts sort of deal.” Truth. Some people are unfortunate enough to never have to test themselves, or be tested by outside forces. So they have the luxury of believing in fantasy shit. When something forces them to confront what they’ve believed, they either crumble or do what Andy is doing and become overly ” enlightened ” and try to believe in ” nothing… Read more »
@ Lost Patrol
” Common ground of many stories in this thread – you can’t function effectively until you let it go. Oneitis, anger phase, revenge impulse, desire to make red pill knowledge fulfill blue pill ideals…Reconstruction series anyone?”
Yup.
And through all of that is Truth. Truth informs Knowledge, or at least it should.
fleezer
Re: what is truth blah blah:
Peter Schickele (composer-comedian who invented the Spike Jones-ish fake classical jape PDQ Bach) put it this way when an audience groaned at a joke:
“Look, truth is truth. You can’t have opinions about truth.”
Part of a family pulling this on you is really annoying
http://bit.ly/2sJ7P01
How did the Red Pill change my life? I’m in my early fifties. I grew up in the Catholic tradition, not too much sexual experience and married the third woman I slept with, after getting my (provider) professional degree. She was a submissive, nice looking woman. The first three to four years were good, but she was slowly putting on weight. It got worse and I spoke to her about it, how it was affecting our sex life; and how I managed to stay in shape despite working in an intense field. She made all sorts of promises and half-hearted… Read more »
Fight to fuck ratio better be 0 fights and on my cock when ever I want. They will semi pout etc but never raise their voice, curse or any of that
The Girls and I don’t fight. Not even close. It’s comply or say goodbye
“When something forces them to confront what they’ve believed, they either crumble or do what Andy is doing and become overly ” enlightened ” and try to believe in ” nothing “…. which is still a manner of belief….believing in spiritualty…,. Lmao….while claiming beliefs sucks.”
You’re not listening to what I’m saying. You don’t have to believe in spirituality. You experience it. That’s my whole point. It’s a realization. A bunch of realizations.
@Andy
Yeah, no way that a super smart spirit could pull the wool over YOUR eyes.
@Andy I got busy today but you are new to “spirituality” and keenly aware that before coming to Red Pill and TRM that your beliefs had come to be shit. Some of us, me included have had an intimate relationship with spirituality all are lives. Spirituality is actually not allowing your cognitive brain to cock-block your soul or heart (like when you were 5 to 7 years old, your soul was free to roam. You didn’t have a functioning cognitive brain that was developed). I understand what you are saying. But my responses would mirror Blaximus’ whole-heartedly. I did listen… Read more »
“abstract stuff I resonate with spurs me on because it reflects ancient knowledge before all the noise.”
Unconsciously following the heart’s desire is an masculine X-factor. These are the guys who just get it. The heart is impossible to quantify, serves only it’s owner. The BP world will have none of that.
Since we’re talking about spirituality and wisdom and Proverbs…chapter 5 My son, give attention to my wisdom, Incline your ear to my understanding; 2 That you may observe discretion And your lips may reserve knowledge. 3 For the lips of an [a]adulteress drip honey And smoother than oil is her [b]speech; 4 But in the end she is bitter as wormwood, Sharp as a two-edged sword. 5 Her feet go down to death, Her steps take hold of Sheol. 6 [c]She does not ponder the path of life; Her ways are unstable, she does not know it. 7 Now then,… Read more »
Buffers Rollo buffers The one that changed my life. Not just porn or video games but there is a lot in life that is buffers.your essay on mate poaching and mate guarding explained my divorce but buffers is the one that changed nonaction into action.
This blog has been lifechanging. I came to the sphere after my divorce 4 years ago. I was suffering from extreme anxiety, blamed myself for my “sins”, and various other stuff. I have always been an enterprising guy but I kept that under wraps in the house. I kowtowed to the female social order by definition. Rollo helped me see the reality of what occurs. In spite of all that, my first girlfriend after the divorce almost made me completely relapse. She played the perfect girlfriend role to a tee and I lost myself. Luckily, I rebounded as she was… Read more »
From the OP: Rollo: “The Red Pill is ‘open source’ and its strength lies in its decentralized way of openly debating and testing the strength of ideas. I’m humbled that many men have had their lives changed by what I write, but it’s really a testament to their own resolve – all I do is connect dots, remember? As I’ve stated in both my books, I’m not in the business of making better men, I’m in the business of helping men become better men themselves. No formulas, no Top Ten Ways to,… lists, just actionable intelligence; but that information still… Read more »
“All this don’t drink the coolaid Andy. Sjf’s neighbor lives to close to Gladys Cravats. When I read this I couldn’t pin it to left or right,probably left as they are self defeating.It does mention Sandburg as a thought leader,not a realist. https://newrepublic.com/article/143004/rise-thought-leader-how-superrich-funded-new-class-intellectual” Not a new phenomena. Its the relationship between Patron and Patronee for tens and thousands of years across all cultures. If the livelihood of the Patronee depends totally on its Patrons it will do as told. “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they… Read more »
My “soulmate” left me and years passed before I found your writing and dug myself out. I went from local celebrity in the second city to someone who was embarrassed to show his face to even his family. To top it all off, I ended up getting diagnosed with cancer and had to go through treatment. Broke, Alcoholic, overweight, and suicidal, I spent my days holed up drinking my life away. Now things are looking much better. I am back to work, cancer seems to be gone, moved to a place in a very nice neighborhood, and found love again… Read more »
@Rollo;
Thanks, I’m doing better everyday now that I’m starting to see the bigger picture.
Almost through your first book. I like your writing style a lot because
I sense no bitterness or hate in it. (Which is quite unlike some other writers in
the TRP community).
Rollo, I’m 61 years old. I divorced a year ago after a 30 year LTR inc marriage and 2 terrific daughters. We’d been separated for 3 years before that. It didn’t come as a surprise but was still a shock as I’d invested everything into it and did everything expected of me. I had to unlearn an awful lot. I’d reached the point of being a MGTOW (but not being aware of MGTOWs or the manosphere) and really fed up with LTRs, relationships, feminism and the current shitty situation with the feminine matrix in the world right now. Then in… Read more »
“Everyone wants their life to be comfortable, abundant, free of illness and chaos”
Nope. Not everyone…… well the free of illness would be nice but the chaos, lack of abundance and comforts is what makes a man. A lack of chaos, an abundance of comfort and abundance kills the masculine soul or leave it stillborn and stunted
As a 39 yo virgin male (UK based), your essays and other RP sites have helped me understand the nature of women when I never would have. Some insight was creeping in over recent years, but not as profoundly manifested as your own work. I only wish I had learnt all of this in my teens, and not my early 30s. As it is, my life still feels wasted, and I don’t think I will ever “kill the beta” as you put it. Massively late developer + acute shyness + lack of charisma probably contributed to that. Either that or… Read more »
Would you be able to point me in the direction of those in that older age group who are experienced and write about Game, etc. as it applies to us in the 50 plus years 58 here – I haven’t found any resource specific to our age group and situation. Silver Fox, who posted here earlier, might be starting a blog of sorts… But from what I’m seeing and experiencing, if you are healthy and have a good sense of humour, then life and game follows the same pattern as the 30+ crowd. Except for the bar scene. Finding younger… Read more »
“This’ll bake your noodle http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/09/06/492779594/what-if-evolution-bred-reality-out-of-us On that note, I thought this was interesting: http://hearingthevoice.org/2013/11/14/predictive-coding-masterclass/ (the hollow mask illusion) Some people are less susceptible to illusions (for example, the hollow mask illusion doesn’t work on them). I think Schizophrenics in particular are in that category. Which is interesting, and might make one contemplate further. I (for one) can accept that music is just noise yet still appreciate it. But then (since Andy is back with his beliefs, excuse me, absence of beliefs, and love and stuff) I also think unconditional love (between humans) is barely (if at all) discernible from pity,… Read more »
Per hardship:
“In soft regions are born soft men”
-Herodotus
If authentic, and I’ll assume it is..that quote dates back to 460+ BC.
Bet there were some hard, hard folks back in that day.
I have to wonder what his version of “soft” would be.
(not being a dude, I like my lazy time)
@SJF
The law of attraction definitely seems to be a real thing. I agree with that. The thing is… People that follow that stuff are kind of missing a real foundation. I just don’t see the point. Manifestation of what you want isn’t fulfillment. What about that Deida quote you had there…
“Have you devoted yourself to finding out the deepest truth of your own existence?”
@anon
I love you. 😉
LOL! 😀
“Have you devoted yourself to finding out the deepest truth of your own existence?”
I’m pretty sure I’ve only barely scratched the surface. But my finds are pretty fucking deep. ‘Cause I have lots of depth. It’s not about reaching there, it’s about moving towards there. The Action is what is important.
I’m not really familiar with the new thought term “law of attraction” though.
“I’m pretty sure I’ve only barely scratched the surface. But my finds are pretty fucking deep. ‘Cause I have lots of depth. It’s not about reaching there, it’s about moving towards there.”
@SJF
It’s more like you’re already there, but you just have to peel back the layers of delusion. Kind of like you’re talent code book. You have a realization, then you need to time to rewire your mind to that new reality… Then you usually have another realization. Seems to be the pattern.
You’re an onion.
@Ton
chaos, lack of abundance and comforts
pain increases as you get older…a little comfort would be nice…women bring beer, pussy, and chaos
challenge, train, run the mission, accept risk, overcome and adapt, hunt, kill, impose your will on your environment
“what-if-evolution-bred-reality-out-of-us”
Bad headline. It didn’t breed reality out of us, it polished us into a filter lens with a tight focus.
We see what reality we need to at the level on which we exist. We can’t see the actual colors of flowers because we are not bees and don’t need to. Being able to see “quantum bubbling” would have no benefit and only distract us from that which does. Our perceptions would be overwhelmed by “noise.”
Itdoesgetbetter women are women and men are men… there is not much difference between ye olde guy game and young guy game… so pretty much anything you read on Mystery Method, attraction, frame, kino etc. is going to be useful. As an older guy you will get more age shit testing instead of the kinds of shit tests young guys get, but shit testing is shit testing. Just be prepared for it. There are a large number of women who have a thing for older guys, there are a large number of women who develop a thing for older guys… Read more »
http://www.snakkle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/george-clooney-oscar-nominations-freshman-high-school-red-carpet-photo-GC.jpg
This is not the Clooney women went ape over for a decade plus…
This is… candid shot…
pushing along kfg’s comment, evolution *made* (not the right word but go with it for now) us custom-tailored for what we need to survive and pass on genetics. This has physical components along with other less tangible ones, e.g., mental/cognitive/perception abilities.
Why aren’t women more empathetic to a man’s plight? ‘Cuz they never had to have this skill to survive…. why the fuck would it be there? Same for the man’s predilection for aggressiveness, risk-taking, etc. Women didn’t need it but it sure helps men in their quest for genetic dispersal.
“There are a large number of women who have a thing for older guys . . .” I guestimate circa 20 to 25%. And about half who aren’t there, but can be gamed into it. Calibrate to the older guy girls and give out the right subcoms and they will make themselves known to you. Many of them will do it by opening. “The biggest issue you will have is managing multi set situations where the girl might be shamed by her hen friends . . .” Nail. Head. Again, just a matter of calibration. The tactics may shift a… Read more »
Just logged in for the first time in almost two years to post this.
The Rational Male forced me to realize how I’d been fucking up with the women in my life, and enabled me to escape my suicidal ideation over my inability to have a sex life or secure a relationship
If Rollo’s material didn’t save my life, it came pretty fucking close.
Thanks man.
“Why aren’t women more empathetic to a man’s plight? ‘Cuz they never had to have this skill to survive…. why the fuck would it be there?” More to the point, as their sexual strategy relies on deception and manipulation, they must, to some degree, play blind themselves. Red Pilling women is a misguided “dog” concept. Even if it does take, it simply masculinizes them. Just as women think they want a better Beta, until they actually get one, men don’t really want a woman who thinks like a man. It just makes the dance a bunch of feet tripping over… Read more »
Women in general have paper thin frames… Young women… have no frames at all… They are silly putty.
Oh God, this is so true. the young’uns just want to be led and told what to do. I’m starting to tell my 19yo what to bring – “bring a bathing suit” – stay overnight at a local spa/inn. “bring good running shoes” – go over to a local kiddi/family rock climbing gym.
@kfg
I guestimate circa 20 to 25%. And about half who aren’t there, but can be gamed into it.
~25% PREFER older men, but can be gamed by younger men
~25% PREFER younger men, but can be gamed by older men
~50% don’t have a strong preference
This means that about 100% of girls can be gamed by anybody.
Really good stuff
https://calmandcollected.com/start-here/
Create 6 pages a day
https://www.instagram.com/p/vRU1UdFkOT/?taken-by=stephenking&hl=en
Observe and create from the infinte
https://www.instagram.com/p/g-D8JYFkBY/?taken-by=stephenking&hl=en
“More to the point, as their sexual strategy relies on deception and manipulation, they must, to some degree, play blind themselves. Red Pilling women is a misguided “dog” concept. Even if it does take, it simply masculinizes them. Just as women think they want a better Beta, until they actually get one, men don’t really want a woman who thinks like a man.” Yep. Estrogen makes women dopey and confused. Dopey, confused, “expressive” are female traits. They’re also appealing (within reason of course) Imagine a man who is dopey and confused, with a expressive and buoyant personality who wants to… Read more »
“Estrogen makes women dopey and confused.”
It also causes women to manipulate and deceive..why are they women?…because their father gave them an X-chromosome…it’s his fault…if women have a problem, blame a man
“It also causes women to manipulate and deceive…
Women are more likely to be manipulative and deceptive (IMO), but I’m not so sure that’s estrogen related. I’ve been pregnant and wasn’t more prone toward manipulation or deception during that time.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWFpx-hnKOK
55YO John Enos III playing around by the pool…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVSynpenyW9
Playing around at Frankie’s on Melrose… Yes that is Mickey Rourke.
Did I mention that older guys have more experiences and stories and social status?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWOioEcA-lx
59YO Dolph Lundgren’s daughter…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTZ3ssaBPGo
Pre-selection via offspring… looks like a lunch I had recently… LOL
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOs0TjQjgH5
And always time to hang out with your crew… When you have a crew, and a DPA life… women are always an adjunct… mere sport.
@anon “Women are more likely to be manipulative and deceptive (IMO), but I’m not so sure that’s estrogen related. I’ve been pregnant and wasn’t more prone toward manipulation or deception during that time.” (Rollo does not like to venture into the following line much.) Strong fathers raise a generation of daughters worthy of marriage. When do women become deceptive and manipulative: Having either an absent father or weak father who she does not respect or having a partner with weak frame or a promiscuous partner, who might abondon her any time or doesn’t have partner, so she is aspiring for… Read more »
You wont think so after you read the new book.
Chicks with good fathers… I mean it’s night and day. But I’m gonna add.. it’s fathers who actually have a relationship with them, not just strong fathers. The hallmark of this dynamic is that the chick actually cares about and loves her father. Lots of chicks have a good father but didn’t necessarily have a quality relationship with him. So a good man is not enough. She must revere him, for what he gave to her, what he taught her.
Night and day from a chick with daddy issues, and it goes beyond just the manipulation aspect.
@ TuffLuv “Chicks with good fathers… I mean it’s night and day. But I’m gonna add.. it’s fathers who actually have a relationship with them, not just strong fathers. The hallmark of this dynamic is that the chick actually cares about and loves her father. Lots of chicks have a good father but didn’t necessarily have a quality relationship with him. So a good man is not enough. She must revere him, for what he gave to her, what he taught her.” Cosign this ^^^ to the 10th power. I’ve spent years talking to my male friends and family with… Read more »
Blax Another DPA Warrior/Scholar for your collection… https://www.instagram.com/p/1l5TxflEn3 57 here… still getting after things… Hans Lundgren was born on 3 November 1957 in Spånga, the son of Sigrid Birgitta (née Tjerneld), a language teacher, and Karl Johan Hugo Lundgren, an engineer and economist for the Swedish government. He lived in Spånga until the age of 13, when he moved to his grandparents’ home in Nyland, Ångermanland.[5][6][7] Some sources wrongly state 1959 as his year of birth,[8][9] but Lundgren himself has confirmed it to be 1957.[10][11][12] He has two sisters and an older brother;[7] he was raised in the Lutheran church.[13]… Read more »
I’ve detailed a lot of my background and Red Pill Journey here: https://alphajedi.com/2017/07/11/the-game-grind/ For the TL;DR crowd, it basically can be summed up as I was as Blue Pill as they came. But after a few bad experiences and looking at the discrepancy between what I was telling myself and what I actually had success with, I began to look for knowledge and answers. By chance I was lead to Rollo’s blog via his SMV graph, and from there I searched many Red Pill writings and thinkers to learn as much as possible. Where I am today is a much… Read more »
Your writing in particular and TRP in general have helped me immensely. Two years ago I was reeling from a major breakup – my “first everything” girl and I were done after over 5 years together. I was diving into a dating market that I had never been competent at navigating. TRP let me understand my old relationship, how to find new ones, and what I could expect. You, however, helped me to understand that whatever I did, it needed to focus on me and what I wanted out of life. I have since begun pursuing what I believe to… Read more »
Rollo- Concerning “Hoffman’s big radical idea”, history is filled with such big ideas spawn from weakling men living lives of leisure. Protected, sheltered from and unencumbered or destroyed by real challenges, they are permitted to manufacture imaginary ones. The perception of reality is warped by such “thinkers”, i.e. bullshit artists. The whole idea that humanity is superior to nature is nothing new and it is really nothing more than an ultimate beta fantasy. Man is part of nature but has imagined himself as separate from nature for thousands of years. It’s a cop out for sissies. The human propensity to… Read more »
nbtm – excellent first paragraph; I’ll take it
second one seems like it’s referencing a whole other blog post than what I read, totally different take on it; I’ll leave this one behind
@Sentient: There are a large number of women who have a thing for older guys, there are a large number of women who develop a thing for older guys because older guys are often everything the younger guys are not – solid frame,.. I’m 50’s and the average age of the girls I’m banging is 28…a few 26…rarely but one or two 32… They all say the same things when I ask why they like older guys: less drama, younger guys today aren’t “Men”…they’re immature etc. But…and this is the big but…like those guys in the photos you’ve posted, I’m… Read more »
“Are the words written by Rollo there to make us “feel better”, feign a pretense of security, when we become angry, sad, frustrated and desperate after experiencing the consequences of ignoring the truth?” No. the red pill/game safety net is there so a man can take huge risks with regards to women and know while he will always face the consequences of his actions, one of those consequences will not be death. me: “I just stopped in my tracks and backpeddled to stare at you” wife: (flirty look) and? me: “and the fact that I don’t love you at all,… Read more »
@ Wala
” They’re not necessarily looking for a “boyfriend” but don’t want a pump and dump…they want a cool guy who teases them, offers them stuff to think about, has some special set of skills—cooking, photography…is accomplished in some way…
And…doesn’t make stupid “Dad” type age jokes…. ”
PREACH !!!!!!!!
Young men need to destroy the notion of ” why should I do ‘X’ ???”. Do it for yourself. Create yourself. Improve yourself. Challenge yourself.
The byproduct is that there are legions of chicks looking for you/that.
Not too shabby for a byproduct.
“The whole idea that humanity is superior to nature is nothing . . .”
. . . that I see in Hoffman’s words. But then I see very little of Hoffman’s words in the words of the author of the article either. That happens a lot and you always have to watch out for it.
In any case I’m not sure what the ‘revolutionary’ idea is either. It seems perfectly obvious that our senses are tuned to survival, not to making fundamental measurements. Isn’t that the very reason we’ve had to invent devices to do that?
Wala Blax Welcome back Wala… The fact is they don’t really care. True. The movie going around now The Hero, interesting bit of RP in it. He is 71 and the love interest is mid 30’s (37 IRL)… He does nothing but exist in the shadow of the imazing live he has lived to date [DPA], and act on his impulses. [there are a few bs Hollyweird false notes but not too much] The age thing is part of the story. worth watching the first 15 minutes and his frame when they meet at least… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7DG5G1W8O8 This clip starts at… Read more »
Sam Elliott is 72 IRL… He does not look 40… he looks old by any definition. But he is trim.
http://www.ozebook.com/cpotw/extimages/007%20Disneyland.jpg
There are different ways to approach aging…
Superior to nature? I have critter heads haginng on my wall and not the other way round so fucking a right I am superior to nature
@Sfc
nah can’t beat nature homie
“I have critter heads haginng on my wall . . .”
Naturally.
FI reinforcing dad bods
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3870467/good-news-guys-this-is-the-body-type-women-love-best-and-you-dont-get-it-from-heading-to-the-gym/
“they want a cool guy who teases them, offers them stuff to think about, has some special set of skills—cooking, photography…is accomplished in some way…”
This is good…
I’ve made the mistake of telling women what I do…it’s a desire killer. No more of that. I say I’m an artist and move on to the sexualization. You’re right, the young women don’t care, the older who’d want to fuck don’t either. The ones who who do, shit test about it…next.
you funny Ton…. those critter heads mean you won some battles, the war ain’t over though
@EhIntellect
Good link. “A recent survey by Planet Fitness” shows women like men with extra body fat. We can prove it with these photos of hefty, rich celebrities that women said they like.
Planet Fitness. The “gym” that advertises itself as a place for people to go that can’t hack it, so their self image won’t be bothered by people that can.
Sometimes I think of joining PF, so I can earn my getting kicked out for being too fit badge of honour.
And hey, Tootsie Rolls.
LP, didn’t know of the Planet Fitness angle before but from a business marketing view, it’s fucking genius. Even other gyms will have well under 50% of the members ever actually use it. I imagine PF’s is even lower. I think a gym will get peak attendance/membership around New Year’s Rez time but tapers off precipitously fast lol
other than that, yeah, it sucks
Regarding the status enquiry, next time this happens to me I’m seriously going to say something like…
– how big are your tits?
– I need to get an idea of your cooking and cleaning skills
– anal?
– swallow?
– I need you to pop this thing on my ass
Seriously baby, I need to know the viability of a LTR with you right away so I don’t waste time.
ok palm…. maybe the last three were over the top but the first two, oh yeah, I can deliver them lines like a boss
might need to be tailored to the moment, but it’s that kind of natural RP smartass mouth trait that kept my dick from totally drying out in my BP youth
The Red Pill gave me a choice. I choose abundance.
The safety net is a good description. After my first relationship ended (I broke up) I had a 5 month dry spell that was anguish. I did not know how to attract women. Recently I had a 6 month dry spell, mostly because I was too swamped with work to meet anyone. And I felt at peace, because I knew that as soon as I had the time I’d be able to attract someone (and I did). A more concrete example is it helped me arrange a threesome. I got a text from a former lover who wanted to hook… Read more »
Love the life guard at a car wash, the looking for work because I can’t swim is even better I tell them mid level henchman in the direct action department of an evil international organization bent on world domination for fun and profit. I will also tell them burden on society rob armored cars, public relations, which isn’t internet funny but pretty funny in real time given my appearance I don’t think there is a good honest answer to the question though, unless you are a fireman. Buddy of mine drove F-16’s and use to tell girls he was a… Read more »
Good work Anon
“LP, didn’t know of the Planet Fitness angle before but from a business marketing view, it’s fucking genius.” Do you really think so? I don’t know much about marketing but from my perspective it’s catatonically stupid. True, people make commitments to use the gym and then don’t use them. But they don’t actually join while expecting not to use them. The intention is to get in shape (whether it happens or not), not to just say you are a member of a gym that gives out free pizza and candy (hey, why not make it into a microbrewery too?! Then… Read more »
“the pilot deal wasn’t working for him.”
Exactly. Women don’t want to desire fuck rich guys generally. The provisioning ability is too strong a factor and kills the feel she’s living on the edge.
Two post wall women shit tested me remorselessly, I vague in everything but leaked I was a white collar tech type job. I could fake the language, I thought. No it just got me more b.s., and they weren’t married, all that good looking, thin enough. That whole post wall expectancy in play. 15 ” I’ll never get back.
I’m sticking to obfuscation.
“But they don’t actually join while expecting not to use them.”
Gyms as health clubs replace the scarcity of food and physical labor once needed for gathering said food. They’re poor replacement as the fit folks in gyms would be fit without, so I don’t use them as good examples of a gym’s usefulness.
People don’t get married planning to get a divorce. Marriage sounds like a good idea. Alas BP ideas predesine too many marriages to failure.
“People don’t get married planning to get a divorce.”
True. The PF equivalent for a marketing scheme of that genre would be a 50k trip to Tijuana .
“Hey! You know you’re going to get robbed and broke, eventually end up drunk with a tattoo of unknown origin after a gang bang with fuglies you can’t remember. Pay us a bunch of money and we’ll skip all that other stuff!”
For scoffers, sure, not everyone ends up there.
But not everyone ends up at 300 pounds of lard riding little rascals around the gym waving their bells at folks who distress them by exercising and grunting. This is a specific crowd.
Hi Rollo, over the course of the last ten years I have been interested in the PUA scene. It began with reading ‘The Game’ when I was 18 years of age, whilst on my way to work on the bus. Subsequently it all branched out – Richard La Runia, Mystery, Mark Manson, and all the other PUA/Dating coaches would soon be familiar to me. During my time at University I was too much of an introvert to make a go of anything, role on 10 years later and I have had moderate success with women. Now this is where you… Read more »
Wotan,Cernunos,Pan.
Aria,Sophia!
*Dolph Lundgren* had an offer to go to MIT as a Fulbright Scholar. Wow. Just..wow.
Culum
http://st-fashiony.ru/pic/celebrity/pic/105040/16.jpg
1983 – a virtually unknown 26 yo Dolph at Studio 54 with his internationally famous GF…
26… Imagine the mindset.
I think like many men, pre-redpill I was drifting through life, not really engaged in setting a course of action for what I wanted. Sure I had a job, a wife, paid my bills; but it felt hollow. I see now that I was waiting from someone to say ” Ready, Set, And Go! Your and adult now, go out and start adulting”. As my marriage starting having issues, I started looking around for help. When you start that search, you find all the Blue Pill, Feminist crap in Cosmo and Good Housekeeping. We all know what they say and… Read more »
One of the things I find striking is how everyone who gets into TRP always says something like:
“It saved my life, thank god I’m not blue pill anymore.”
And never says:
“I tried it, and I’m going back to being an AFC again because my outcomes were WAY better.”
The more I think about it, I needed a safety net when I was Guy Disney because I was certain to crash. Now I don’t need one anymore because I know better.
Ehintellect SFCton Palmasailor “What do you do?” #1 Response – “What do you think I do?” [ laser, smirk] #2 Response – “Guess”… And so it begins… Loving the lifefguard stuff btw… My standard for a while has been the Bean Farmer routine… Burke – the best thing you can do is NOT tell them what you do… The Bean Farmer routine is the typical way I respond to the “what do you do” question… You want to play with emotion and fun. Example (from prior post): [continued at https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/11/12/create-your-identity-to-attract-more-women/#comment-727831%5D But be careful… you can end up overgaming if you… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChQTMcJcgqY
whoops… wrong clip. this is the clip with “what do you do?”
” . . . this is inaccurately titled “hot girl” . . .”
They usually are.
A couple small social victories, post red pill: Scenario #1) Went out with a girl, she friendzoned me pretty hard, I moved on with my life. She started hoo-hahing her friend’s fiance, I found out – deleted her #, defriended her on FB. She keeps re-sending friend requests and leaves VM’s, which I ignore. She comes up a few weeks later in the club saying weepily “Are we still FRIENDS?!?!?” I say tersely and unsmilingly, ‘yeah, we’re great’, and walk away. She comes up a few minutes later, pulls me to the dance floor and grinds on me like there’s… Read more »
AV – since you’re already detached mentally from these girls, why not practice on them? see if you can turn it around with a strong RP approach…. whatever it is, do what Sentient preaches about pushing beyond what you’re used to doing
you weren’t going to be fucking them anyway so there’s no downside and all upside if you do manage to score or at least learn something
Rollo, I am a lurker and have never contributed till now. You asked for feedback from us how the Red Pill has changed our life. You also asked how maybe your work has changed our lives. Your work and the Red Pill has served me extraordinarily well and I will share how with you. Afterwards, as father of a daughter, I feel obligated to share something currently going on that may provoke forethought about something you may face. First, about me. After spending 60 percent of my life in a marriage, and all my life blue pill conditioned, my wife… Read more »
@Watcher
I can do nothing to enlighten this young man
Really? I did some of that with my son in law. If a man doesn’t understand how to run relationships, divorce is the final destination…do you want your daughter and grandkids to go through a divorce? Of course, it has to be done carefully. Breadcrumbs. Small bites. Old wisdom like “The Taming of the Shrew.”
@Watcher, I had the same questions about raising my daughter. For a son, the advice is Red Pill all the way, but for a daughter, unless you want her to grow up as a lawyer-cunt-do-everything-without-men woman of resources, you have to either teach her to be really feminine and see out older men of resources, or don’t do anything as you have and let your future son-in-law fend for himself. Perhaps you can give him the book right after he has the first child? I’m hoping Rollo covers how to breach this topic with our daughters (may have already, but… Read more »
Watcher, what a pickle to be in
I’ve envisioned this scenario in my head but have no to reference to pull from so I got nothing
Since this is your daughter, her hypergamy is working for you, too, at least in this microcosm
I bet Rollo covers it in his next book, tho lol
@Watcher, I think I’ll teach my daughter to be traditionally feminine, seek out older men of resources, yet seek the skill sets necessary to do a side hussle out of the house – tax prep, web design, etc.
@Sentient, I know you’ve mentioned your daughters before, so I’m sure you’d have many helpful insights on this.
With daughters you do patriarchy…tell her if she’s out late, has a bf, etc., she gets to be independent and move out…no more educational assistance or financial assistance of any kind. No man belongs in your single daughter’s bedroom, even to “study.” Check up on her friends and converse with them…if they avoid you, that’s a red flag. You tell her it’s up to her if any man is worth being emancipated.