Empathy 2016

The Campbell’s Soup Company was founded in 1869. In those 147 years the company developed a reputation as a wholesome staple of brands to the point it’s been considered Americana – even Andy Warhol considered Campbell’s emblematic of the American experience.

But in the space of a 30 second commercial the Feminine Imperative and the feminist narrative has managed to corrupt, if not overtly destroy a brand identity that took 147 years to establish.

Last week I outlined how the imperative assimilated the Star Wars intellectual property and franchise; arguably another example of Americana. Monday I detailed how it is in women’s innate interests individually and in the Feminine Imperative’s interests on a meta scale to appropriate the works and fruits of men’s labors as a result of their Burden of Performance. And, once again, here we have another glaring example of the imperative’s appropriation of a storied brand identity to use as a vehicle for its narratives.

The gold of course is in the comments on the YouTube page. And as you might expect there’s a lot of predictable outrage swirling around how ‘not all women are like that‘ (NAWALT) and “wow, what a bitch.” The commercial message was even overt enough to trigger the average man to risk to consider, “flip the genders and look how this commercial reads.” But that’s just it, there is such a comfort with the Feminine Imperative in being this overt that even plugged in Blue Pill men cannot ignore the message.

What exactly is that message? In this case it’s the degree to which the imperative is comfortable in revealing truths about the nature of women. I’ve been calling attention to this comfort level for almost two years now. Open Hypergamy is almost a given at this stage. Open cuckoldry is beginning to establish a foothold in being socially acceptable, and later socially expected. In the coming years I believe we’ll begin to see an even larger degree of comfort the imperative has in revealing and reveling in innate feminine nature. This commercial, from a storied brand of comfort food no less, is the first illustration of this trend.

While this commercial and the hashtag associated are intended to shock, it’s important to understand the message that Campbell’s Soup Company is aligning itself with. Bear in mind that a board of executives, brand directors and marketing directs had to approve the message and budget needed to deliver this message. The fallback of course will be that the intent was humor, but they understand very well the latent message in the humor they will hide behind when the publicity backlash occurs.

No doubt the Jezebel set of the femosphere will either embrace the commercial’s message by parroting the trope that women hate to be men’s mothers, or they will decry it as portraying women as being heartless, careerist bitches – they just can’t win. In either interpretation the louder buzz will be as it always is, women being victims.

In a Red Pill perspective we see a lot of what we already know about women’s innate, visceral natures.

From Empathy:

Women cannot bear to see a Man experiencing negative emotions such as extreme anger, rage, fear, despair, despondency or depression for extended periods of time. You say you want to “be there” for your Man; but you cannot do it. If it goes on long enough, it kills the attraction; it sets off your hypergamy alarms; and subconsciously causes you to start hunting for a replacement Man.

A woman seeing a Male go through the above will seek to replace that Male immediately.

Women cannot listen to Men talking about or working out their dating/mating/relationship issues or problems. Women reflexively view a Man discussing such issues as “whining” or “complaining” or “bitterness” or “sour grapes” or “well, you just chose poorly, so sucks to be you” or “suck it up, no one wants to hear you bitching about it”.

As to both of the above principles; when a Male is involved, ratchet up by a factor of 5 the disdain and repulsion a woman experiences when seeing a Male do or experience the above.

I took a lot of shit from indignant women when I published Empathy. Yet here we have what was likely a half million dollar budget commercial graphically confirming exactly the premise of my post.

As a bonus this message also overtly confirms much of what I wrote in Vulnerability:

Vulnerability is not something to be brandished or proud of. While I do believe the insight and acknowledgement of your personal vulnerabilities is a necessary part of understanding oneself (particularly when it comes to unplugging oneself), it is not the source of attraction, and certainly not arousal, that most men believe it is for women.

From the comfort of the internet and polite company women will consider the ‘sounds-right’ appeal of male vulnerability with regard to what they’resupposed to be attracted to, but on an instinctual, subconscious level, women make a connection with the weakness that vulnerability represents.

A lot of men believe that trusting displays of vulnerability are mutually exclusive of displays of weakness, but what they ignore is that Hypergamy demands men that can shoulder the burden of performance. When a man openly broadcasts his vulnerableness he is, by definition, beginning from a position of weakness.

Yes ladies, I understand you’re not like this. I fully anticipate the “not in my experience” personalization each of you will attempt to adopt to placate any bad juju and your solipsistic mental point of origin. Just remember that this is the messaging your gender’s imperative is fostering. This is the message that Campbell’s Soup will stake its 147 year brand reputation on because it believes it will sell more soup.

It may seem that I’m being unduly critical of the narrative of this commercial, but remember that this narrative exists for a reason. I have no doubt women will chime in about how it’s an exaggeration, but what message is being exaggerated? What is the message that the medium is conveying here? For as much as the narrative would like men to be sensitive and open up about their feelings, for as much as it wants men to be vulnerable, all it takes is a 30 second commercial to confirm that men expressing weakness isn’t strength, and Hypergamy doesn’t care if your Mommy made you soup when you were sick as a child – stop expecting Strong Independent Women® to be your Mommy.

Keep in mind the contradicting message this commercial conveys here. This is the same degree of ruthlessness and insensitivity that the Feminine Imperative expects from, and finds attractive in, men.

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Stultus Sum
6 years ago

I love this site!

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@All – Now she’s got me interested. Things I’m learning about Emily. – She’s done cocaine “just once” she posted a link to a vid on cocaine saying “Cocaine gives you such an amazing high”. And in that comment stream she calls a guy “so lame” for never even smoking weed, no less trying cocaine. And since we know she’s a liar, we can assume she’s done a fair amount of coke. – She’s likely an anti-semite. Here’s what she said when Rick Santorum came out publicly disagreeing with the pope on climate change. “OMG FUCK YOU RICK SANTORUM. You… Read more »

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

“My main issue with him is his lust and masturbation problem”

Lololololol… Poor guy. What a train wreck.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

Newlyaloof, “If the shoe was on the other foot, Emily would be sending all of Scribbs info to the social network authorities and urging people to find out his employer and get him fired.”

You are a 100% correct.

Divided Line
6 years ago

@Sun Wukong Femitheist, aka Krista Milburn did a 180 and is now on the MRA “egalitarian humanist” side. She tweets about male suicide a lot. If you check out her blog, she claims that the femitheist thing was a character, a misandrist Ziggy Stardust, if you will. Regardless if she was serious about it then or if she was never serious about it at any point, it’s still telling that women would think of such a thing. Milburn’s not the first or last woman to entertain that fantasy. It’s probably rooted in women’s hindbrain understanding that they’re the keepers of… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

scrib posts the links, Rollo starts mining and…

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scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

Emily in her warm weather outfit and some random Italian guy from Campania…
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Fyi she said to the guy on that post who was asking her who this guy was that she wouldn’t have serious relationship with him because he was short, only 5’4″. So I guess this was just some weed, anal and nobody else in the bed with her…

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

I was wondering why Emily kept commenting on Rollo’s Open Relationship post.

Liar & Fraud
Liar & Fraud
6 years ago

Thank you Rollo… You can continue to bully me if you want, but I do appreciate that you deleted that post. I know you guys don’t believe me, but I didn’t make any of those photos public. Aaand I fail to see how my photos have anything to do w what I post on Insanity’s site (I stopped going on BGR’s site since he’s crazy.) I haven’t been a ‘bitch’ to anyone here. Well, except Liz. I just disagreed with you guys, and I foolishly, naively, thought that I could change the way at least some of you think. And… Read more »

SJB
SJB
6 years ago

@Emily: Remember your teaching: to love is to will the best for another. So stop crawling into your boyfriend’s bed and grinding your butt into his crotch. You’ll stop getting depressed and he’ll compete at a different level.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Emily: “And I don’t know what you guys think of me . . .”

If you were my wife, I’d drink it.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

December 28 at 6:00 pm ، I wrote to her: Emily response to Rollo, Pay attention to threesome in the back of her head (tingles are flowing) Dec 30 8:58 am @Rollo Well under the law, that isn’t rape. Women often get the benefit of doubt because many men try to get us drunk in order for us to have sex with them. I’ve seen that happen. Hell, just yesterday I overheard some guyfriends talking about a threesome where the guy got the two girls drunk and then got them to have sex with him. Getting girls drunk in order… Read more »

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

“So stop crawling into your boyfriend’s bed and grinding your butt into his crotch.”

Lol. I had the same visual.

Pinelero
Pinelero
6 years ago

For some reason there was link to the insanity blog in response to a post I had made, so I went to that site. What I gathered there was that one reason folks from there came here (and other similar blogs to Rollo’s) was to “break up the echo chamber” . Not really sure what that means, but it does sound like it’s a deliberately disruptive and troll-like motivation.

I guess if you are mean-spirited then karma’s a bitch.

bnon
bnon
6 years ago

@Rollo: Why do you like to write about the male space intruder issue, but always dedicate half of your post to responses to women plus discussing Insanity/Emily/whoever at long lengths… I guess it’s just what’s most entertaining for yourself in the first place, and contrary positions can be valuable in the second. But it runs against exactly with the point you make and for me it’s just some extremists opinions. You only find those women who have very strong opinions about this subject on a site like this, but the whole social dynamics going on in the present world is… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

@Emily,
I love honest sluts, I owe them a LOT of gratitude, hell, I thank them for every BJ / anal, and not one of them wanted to marry me, they never lied to me by using God. Just be an honest slut (I consider myself a male slut too) . If you meet a guy with no tingles -no matter how sweet he is- don’t fuck him and don’t try to deceive him or yourself.
It’s the men with no tingles that triggers crazy ideas in women’s head.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Emily – Listen up, you self-righteous little phony, you don’t get to tell us to stop posting about you. You don’t have any power here. And you were a complete bitch many times here, and denigrating to all of us on a number of occasions. You were arrogant and judgmental and preachy as well, and often utterly wrongheaded and ignorant. Here, you don’t get to just “erase” all of your past like you are doing in many other areas of your life. pretending that you haven’t done and said the things you’ve done and said. Instead, you’ve been taken to… Read more »

bob bitchin
bob bitchin
6 years ago

I wonder if Emily has snorted coke whilst giving head and getting anal? Anyone got any pics of that?

lololol.m..bwahahaaaaaaa!

Stultus Sum
6 years ago

@Emily “and I foolishly, naively, thought that I could change the way at least some of you think.” What was your motivation, Emily? Was it a genuine concern for our well being? Love for your fellow man? Listen up. In real life, people “like” you for being a cute girl..(.i.e. they want to fuck you.) So, they pay attention to you and pretend what you have to say is interesting, intelligent or clever in some way. In a forum like TRM, we don’t have any chance of fucking you. This means the advantage of being a cute girl is worthless… Read more »

Bromeo
Bromeo
6 years ago

LOL, Emily’s getting exposed af out here, need to find some nudes.

Bromeo
Bromeo
6 years ago
Andy
Andy
6 years ago

“But here’s the thing. At some level, you know we are on to something here. You know there are holes in what you understand”

Agreed. We all did stupid shit when we were 20, but she just reaffirms EVERYTHING that we talk about. Lol.

I think this song was written for Emily.

http://youtu.be/2GhPUAVgHZc

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

This girl really doesn’t realize that you never put anything anywhere for any reason in an unencrypted digital format if you don’t want somebody to find out about it at some point. Anything you say or do and make a digital record of can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

Verdict: stupid and slutty.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@scribblerg

How about it? Wanna give this place a real try?

What, and risk breaking her neck falling off that high horse of hers? Not a chance.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

And Neil’s Stupid Girl. Played this for my HS GF one night. Told her she had to come up to my room before we went out and listen to this great song that made me think of her. The look on her face when she heard the lyrics was just priceless…And Val was a lot smarter than Emily.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UI9MlSjiRA&w=420&h=315%5D

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Sun – A million years ago, before life ripped my nutz off, I used to break women like Emily and make them submissive bitches to my dominance. Keyser talks about how tingles are an “all hole permit” – indeed. Only thing better than getting a bitchy young girl like Emily all sexed up is to take an anal virgin, howling in ecstasy as she “does things she’s never done before”. Fuck, getting old sucks… But to be serious for second, I feel bad for Emily in a way. Going through her profile and pics and comments, what I see is… Read more »

Dutchman
Dutchman
6 years ago

Wow, shit got real around here lol.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@scribblerg

I’m more and more convinced that an attractive woman without a strong man to lead her just becomes a hole given enough time. Sexually, philosophically, and psychologically.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

Aaaaaand Rollo with the kill shot:

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DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Scribbs – ” Sure, I’ll stick my dick in them given half a chance but I can’t help feeling sad for them”

We have the crying Madonna of Sicily.

Now we have the crying Cock of Scribbily, emptying its viscous tears into the saddened whoreholes of hell.

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Scribblberg, that Emily rant was fucking hilarious!

Emily, let me boil the TL/DR for you.

You are a fucking little whore who knows nothing but how to use your cunt to try to get your way.

It don’t play here bitch, cuz most of us have fucked and sodomized women that are ten times better looking and at least 1.5 times smarter then you.

Fuck off!

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Denihilist – I am getting soft, lol. But seriously, I am. The longer I’m Red Pill the more I see women as suffering too, even though they are wrecking the joint while they are. I mean, ask yourself this, do you think Emily is happy?

I see her as a lost girl, and I guess she activates a little bit of the Dad vibe in me. Weird, I’m in a very weird Red Pill phase. Not angry at women in general at all anymore but not seeing much that is working or that I want a part of.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

That’s what gonna happen to Emily’s poor bf IF he finds out http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cD9h55Mq-Ns

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago
Striver
Striver
6 years ago

I don’t understand the pissing matches with women. That’s an honest statement; I genuinely don’t understand them. I mostly ignore the women here or don’t care. I guess I am different, I don’t know. My boiling point is so high. I have probably been in less than 5 true arguments online in all my years. Motivation’s always an issue for me. Had to push myself to date, to get married. Wasn’t a natural thing for me at all. And yet it was the right decision. Well, the particular woman was bad, but I didn’t know that back then… Screwing a… Read more »

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Scribb, I get what you are saying. But I just don’t give a fuck anymore.

They made their bed (as if, most of these whoreholes are to fucking lazy now to even do that), they get to lie in it.

They know the truth, the whoreholes just decide to ignore it.

Fuck-em, sodomize-em, cum on their tits, just don’t give the fucking sluts any love, they are not fucking worthy.

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Striver, ” But honestly, I don’t feel like doing that shit any more.”

aMEN Brother!

Divided Line
6 years ago

Could women possibly be more depressing? Everybody says the rage phase ends but mine certainly hasn’t.

Divided Line
6 years ago

If there’s an upside, at least their soullessness is predictable, if nothing else, if Emily is any indication.

zip
zip
6 years ago

I feel sorry for Emily’s “boyfriend”. He should come here.

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

“I just disagreed with you guys, and I foolishly, naively, thought that I could change the way at least some of you think.”

And the best way to “change the way people think” is immediately resort to condescension and insults, and then proceed to confirm everything they said.

LWAT4
LWAT4
6 years ago

IKEA Effect #2: men really don’t need the directions
http://www.providencejournal.com/article/20151226/NEWS/151229788

GRock
GRock
6 years ago

While I don’t have an answer, or series of steps to the Empathy dilemma regarding women today, I can imagine as the climate perpetuates into a greater quandary, methods can be developed to stress test a woman for empathetic value over a trial period of say 3 months, or 6 months max. Certainly many here have been in mid-term relationships (4-8 month mark) wondering if they want to turn their current mate into an LTR. But as many of us know who she is now, can change dramatically in comparison to who she’ll be in 1-3 years. My greatest let… Read more »

cheupez
6 years ago

Almost tempted to whitenight for Emily. She is sharp but naive. She fuked up. We all do, when we are young. I hope she gets her bearings right safely and can laugh all this off someday.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Divided – While I’m less angry I find myself less hopeful as I see the same thing happening over and over and over…But here’s the thing, that’s not a powerful place for a man to stand. I’m copying SJF’s recent comment as I think it’s very relevant about how a Red Pill mentality must develop for us to feel free and unburdened by all this: SJF – “A mans basic motivation is to be released from constraint and experience the freedom on the other side. All masculine goals are directed toward more freedom. The typical masculine desire for freedom involves… Read more »

reloadedbeats
6 years ago

Hey man, lately I have been thinking about some concepts and I’ve found something troubling. You have to give up your humanity to fuck girls. Or at least the hotter ones. And I think that’s more the issue some people have with the red pill. The same way some girls say “people don’t want me cause I’m too smart” while in reality they have a shitty attitude and they are not hot enough to bother, it’s a common response that “you should be more alpha”, that ” you haven’t internalized the red pill ” or that “you had unrealistic expectations”.… Read more »

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

@reloadedbeats

http://therationalmale.com/2012/04/10/the-bitter-taste-of-the-red-pill/

Check out the “myth of the dark arts” section.

Bromeo
Bromeo
6 years ago

Damn, Rollo just went off on her lol, rip Emily

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Andy – Good cite. From the Bitter Taste of the Red Pill, http://therationalmale.com/2012/04/10/the-bitter-taste-of-the-red-pill/ “The truth will set you free, but it doesn’t make truth hurt any less, nor does it make truth any prettier, and it certainly doesn’t absolve you of the responsibilities that truth requires. One of the biggest obstacles guys face in unplugging is accepting the hard truths that Game forces upon them. Among these is bearing the burden of realizing what you’ve been conditioned to believe for so long were comfortable ideals and loving expectations are really liabilities. Call them lies if you want, but there’s a… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
6 years ago

wow. this emily stuff is hilarious. scribblerg nice work. really great. “Wildman needs to know that his ideas are a hash of nonsense.” some might say the same thing about a belief in abraham’s god of war, yahweh, a fictional character created by man in his own image to serve his own violent warmongering tendencies and to “teach” people how to live on top of each other and avoid disease in the newly developing cities “I don’t pretend to know the universalist mind of the primordial creator” everyone who goes to a church/temple/etc and reads/chants from their version of their… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

The clarity of thought by Rollo’s post Jan 4 @ 10:45 PM and before that by ScribblerG @ 9:00 has me in awe. It is very concise and telling. Nice drama. And goodwill on you ScribblerG, your insights are excellent and your emotions are entirely proper, whether attacking or retreating. Yep she was a great foil while she lasted. I don’t have a lot more or better to say, but I’ll say something anyway. Ask the question why Emily was worried about having a few pictures shown or her attitudes (racism and drugs and sex) and such. It probably really… Read more »

reloadedbeats
6 years ago

I had forgotten that the definition of psychopathy was created by the feminine society we live in. In that regard, maybe in a more patriarchal society psychopathy would be defined as the more out of control aspects of hypergamy (e.g. “unloyal bitches”). What I still think is worth noting is that, as I said, the genie is out of the bottle now. We are heading towards a collapse of this society and sluts like Emily are simply a symptom of the underlying disease. As we know, only alphas have the power to change things. But as we also know, an… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“I had forgotten that the definition of psychopathy was created by the feminine society we live in.”

https://bradtaylor.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/false-premises-false-promises.pdf

See chapter 5.

Razorwire
Razorwire
6 years ago

“This young man is denigrated by you for porn and masturbation while you flirt and play cute on social media.” Add 20% alcohol and this is the bitter extract of the SMP most men taste. The FI culutre assures that women have every opportunity to openly explore the various channels of femPorm and vibrators on Groupon (and actual “experience”, of course), openly indulge in emotional masturbation via the peaks and valleys of perpetual victimhood absent actual wounds and perpetual empowerment absent actual achievement, all while the never ending supply of beta-male emotional tampons are punched out of cloth soaked in… Read more »

Crossphased
Crossphased
6 years ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

This has been incredible to watch. So many stereotypes proven yet again to be true.

The icing on the cake is that it’s from a girl that wanted to change men’s minds.

Anyone want to chime in with NAWALT now?

Roused
Roused
6 years ago

@Scribbler
+1 on the Deida copy/paste via SJF.

The Question
6 years ago

@Rollo Tomassi I watched the commercial a couple times and one thing that occurred to me is that while women aren’t capable of empathizing with the male experience, they are capable of sympathy for men, but I think you’ve written previously about they have to be the ones to initiate it. Imagine if the man in the commercial had replied to her question with a short quip like, “I’ll live” or “Just need some of grandpa’s cough syrup and I’ll be fine.” They can give sympathy to men, but only if the man does not want it and might actually… Read more »

cheupez
6 years ago

Someone once said that Rollo pays these women to come here. I almost believe that now. Hahahahaaaa…

Fred Flange, plenty of jam jars
Fred Flange, plenty of jam jars
6 years ago

@The Question You can get sympathy, and even to a degree empathy, but only if you make clear you don’t need it and aren’t asking for it. Oh this is so an Uncle Fred iron rule. If I learned nothing else these last four years I learned this. As in: Here is this problem, or illness, or whatever. It sucks donkey dick. It makes me feel like sucked donkey dick. Poor me. Poor me! POUR ME another drink! Now here is how I am addressing it. If you don’t add that last sentence, you are on the Chode-ville Express to… Read more »

Craiger247
Craiger247
6 years ago

Regarding Emily, and i know I’m not saying what has not already been said, but its worth stating again…..the duplicity she shows, is what I believe ever man faces with every woman as she ages. For example, they claim they hate attention, and don’t want to be looked at as sex objects, until that attention is no longer there.Emily is no different, was she really that clueless that she was in her underwear and bra, and that it wouldn’t illicit a man’s foam at the mouth response? Please, women know exactly how to get attention, and how it validates them…We… Read more »

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

” If we are to understand than we are nothing more than the “things” we do for women, where does that leave us?”

@reloadedbeats

http://yareallyarchive.com/2012/4/#comment-rationalmale-4638

The Question
6 years ago

@Rollo Tomassi “I have a followup post about this coming up this week, but one of the gripes women have about men (husbands mostly) is that they wont go see the doctor in a timely fashion to stay up on health issues.” I have noticed that, too. I’m a bachelor so I haven’t experienced this personally too much, but I do observe it around me. It’s definitely a no-win situation. If a husband doesn’t go, she complains. If he goes like she says, and then finds out he has significant health problems that are outwardly noticeable, she starts to panic.… Read more »

thedeti
6 years ago

Rollo: I read the post. It includes those words I wrote, and which you used for the original November 2013 Empathy post. Good to see those words I vomited out so long ago still have some meaning. Thanks, Rollo, for this post, and for your work here. Men: Read the original post, and then go read it again. You don’t like this. Every bit of you resists it. But you need to read it and understand it. When it comes to your failures, your suffering, your pain and your problems, you cannot look to a woman to help you with… Read more »

newlyaloof
6 years ago

@cheupez: “Someone once said that Rollo pays these women to come here. I almost believe that now. Hahahahaaaa” Hamster translator: “Someone with no personal knowledge of Rollo, thus no good judge and jury of his character said Rollo pays these women to come here. I almost (see, there’s my convenient out in case someone calls me on my inconsiderate shit) believe that now. And now I’m going to laugh “hahahahaaa” just to prove that, although I’m calling into question a man’s character – one of the most fucked up, low-down things a person can do to a man – I… Read more »

thedeti
6 years ago

Rollo: I haven’t read all the exchanges with Emily. And I know you have a blog position of open unmoderated commenting. And I know why you have that position — to let discussions evolve organically and to allow the ideas expressed here to stand up under scrutiny. But it’s just the latest greatest example of what I’ve seen so many times. Women come to a male space and try to change it because they don’t like the message; or they don’t like how the message is expressed. I’m reaching a new conclusion on this. It’s that women come here to… Read more »

newlyaloof
6 years ago

@deti, I agree. This place should be like a men’s locker room. Although the door opens freely to anybody who would push on it and come in, we’d rather ladies wait outside until we’re done.

newlyaloof
6 years ago

@deti, but if they do choose to come in, they better be ready to be treated like a man if they act like one.

SJB
SJB
6 years ago

@thedeti: An anecdote: I was easily seduced by the words “can I help?” It was not in response to a problem or situation, just a normal bit of work needing to be done. However, in retrospect, it was an attention-seeking ploy that worked: more of my attention and more of my time. TANSTAAFL.

The Diplomat
The Diplomat
6 years ago

Young Emily has been yet another godsend to those who still have any doubts as to whether that which they read here on TRM is based on incontrovertible, empirically provable fact.

Nice detective work, Scrib and Rollo. I’ll still be chuckling a week from now.

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

“I only pay women to do one thing.
Pour my liquor.”

Yeah, I give my wife an allowance too.

thedeti
6 years ago

If women are going to look in the men’s locker room, they really shouldn’t complain about what they see here.

The Question
6 years ago

@thedeti @newlyaloof I agree that men need male exclusive space, and thankfully there are sites that moderate comments, but I also believe that unmoderated ones like The Rational Male are indispensable for intellectually honest Blue Pill men who, like myself, converted to the Red Pill after reading the frank, uncensored comments of women like this. Some of us can’t just have men like Rollo or Dalrock tell us these things; after years of social engineering and conditioning, we’re like doubting Thomas; we have to see the holes in the hands and in the side to believe, i.e. the white knighting,… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

Benefit of doubt.
Here is the Mother “tingle” of all tingles(for men&women):
The first BJ, when the holly grail starts flowing, a man’s job is to be honest with himself, and look at her whether she gags and puke, if she drinks it like a thirsty man in a desert. Well,, Congratulations.
Ps,
Don’t try this at home, it might be very Hazard, put a protective glasses when trying this scientific experiment.

Longgone
Longgone
6 years ago

keyser,

A little early for drunk posting eh? Better sober up before mommy gets home….

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Deti, nice to hear from you in 2016.

My advice – ignore the cunts. I see a women’s handle, or start reading some shit that starts sounding feminine or faggy- NEXT.

Let the whores come here, but like a well trained dog, they have to wait for my gaze to ascend upon them, before they get any of my sacred male energy.

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

sodapop – ” if she drinks it like a thirsty man in a desert”

you talking about yourself again?

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

Now you know who is wearing protective glasses.
Ps,
Thanks again Rollo.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Rollo

Good to see a post related to Emily’s real-time shit show coming. This is honestly the most visceral example I’ve seen on here yet of a lot of what you talk about. It couldn’t have been more instructive with any effort short of getting a director and a script involved in the process.

thedeti
6 years ago

@ The Question:

By all means, continue frequenting Rollo’s place. With some exceptions, it’s just not a good idea to engage female commenters regarding Red Pill concepts.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Rollo
These are the fundamental TRM principles Emily has graphically confirmed:

And don’t forget how she’s convirming the Rollo SMV chart. ..

It’s like watching a trust fund baby playing through a few million bucks.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@thedeti With some exceptions, it’s just not a good idea to engage female commenters regarding Red Pill concepts. Not in the same direct discussion/question and answer format you’d engage men. All men here need to keep in mind that the vast majority of women who step in the door can serve as an example if given the right input and a couple nudges. Comments toward them should be made with that intention, not with the expectation of convincing them of anything, changing them, or getting good discussion out of them. Our friend Emily is the prime example of what you… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

@The Question, I have a followup post about this coming up this week, but one of the gripes women have about men (husbands mostly) is that they wont go see the doctor in a timely fashion to stay up on health issues. Another example of fried ice. The solution? A man creates his own medical plan, with a schedule, and keeps to it while telling her only what she needs to know. IMO better to err on the side of not telling her enough than telling her too much, unless that woman is a nurse or some such. Yeah, if… Read more »

Bachelorocles
Bachelorocles
6 years ago

This is a reality all men today must confront. Expect empathy from women only in short bursts. If you show too much vulnerability, her hypergamy sensory algorithm will smells weakness.

And women despise weak men.

It’s how women manipulate us into being their these competitive, tough, unemotional, obedient workers who support them and do the dirty work and take on the stress of society.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Also, I’m not doing FRs cuz my game sucks so hard. Old man game is different I think and cold approaching is very hard to do. “Old” is partly a number, partly a condition, and partly a state of mind. I have had relatives who decided they were “old” at the age of 70, even though they had all their marbles and were in pretty good health. Results weren’t so good. On the other hand, I know a man in his mid 70’s whose wife died last year. He’s actively courting women he knew from back when, traveling to their… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Fred Flange, Uncle To Someone
Poor me. Poor me! POUR ME another drink! Now here is how I am addressing it.

+1 on this, with emphasis added.

Craiger247
Craiger247
6 years ago

@thedeti You bring up some great points, but I have to agree with The Diplomat, girls like Emily are a Godsend. We all get to see a real world example of the duplicity, hypocrisy, and ego of women and how cruel they are to betas. Her words, that story, made me relate to what unplugged me, it made my day. I’m still laughing, if he poor bf beta only knew. I’ve been there, and it is the rock bottom in term of your blue pill upbringing. P.S. I see Emily’s bf at his next swim meet exploding like the drummer… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@thedeti at 1:49 pm No you didn’t read all the exchanges with Emily especially in the Open Relationships essay comments, but she really did put the truth to the conclusion you write here in your third paragraph above. She was epic in her fail, –she tried so blindly she tried so hard just using her feminine wiles (obviously supremely dulled these days). She was a useful foil and we all have scroll buttons. Some guys need to see these things in real time and need react to them in real time. It is illustrative. I don’t like their harassment one… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

@denihilsim,
I don’t know if you EVER pass a woman’s shit test.

The Question
6 years ago

@thedeti “By all means, continue frequenting Rollo’s place. With some exceptions, it’s just not a good idea to engage female commenters regarding Red Pill concepts.” Agreed; I think the utility value of what commenters like this woman bring isn’t the value they think they bring, or their intent. They want to change our minds, but in effect what they say just proves the points made, and for men who are Blue Pill but open to changing their minds, these commenters are the proof. They are definitely not going to hear women like these speak this frankly in other settings, so… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

TheDeti By all means, continue frequenting Rollo’s place. With some exceptions, it’s just not a good idea to engage female commenters regarding Red Pill concepts. First off, good to see you posting again, man. Second of all, gotta disagree. This place is not just a locker room or a virtual bar, it’s also a virtual research laboratory / emergency urgent care clinic. So the girlies and the maginae and the confused men and the hurting men and the angry men and the smirking PUA men and the grimly determined LTR / married men and a lot of others all mix… Read more »

Bachelorocles
Bachelorocles
6 years ago

Here’s the question, Rollo: is it empathy she has for her alpha or is it fear of losing her leader-master?

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Rollo
A woman’s capacity for empathy with a man is directly proportional to his Alpha/SMV status perception with her.

+1

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Agreed; I think the utility value of what commenters like this woman bring isn’t the value they think they bring, or their intent. They want to change our minds, but in effect what they say just proves the points made, and for men who are Blue Pill but open to changing their minds, these commenters are the proof.

Absolutely. Emily’s rationalization hamster revving up to warp speed totally demolishes a whole pile of NAWALTS, and in real time.

“Are women really like that? Well, here, have a look at this one…”.

Object lessons are always useful.

Divided Line
6 years ago

Women don’t have men’s experience of the world and vice versa, so it’s understandable that they will have difficulty with empathy/sympathy. The problem is that they don’t even have to make an attempt, given the overwhelming social power women have due to their role in mating. It makes you appreciate how ridiculous the idea of “gender equality” is. There’s no possible equality. It would be a disaster to even attempt to achieve such a thing.

nastynate
nastynate
6 years ago

In my younger years, I had the problem of expecting empathy from females when I was sick. I’m not the type to act like a baby when I get sick, but I was offended at the lack of proactive help and open disdain EVERY LTR female I was involved with, projected towards me in my illness. Especially considering how proactively helpful I was when they were ill. Even before I was fully redpill, I learned in my 20’s that women are incapable of empathy towards sick men. Don’t expect relational equity and don’t underestimate hypergamy. When you get sick, females… Read more »

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