Empathy 2016

The Campbell’s Soup Company was founded in 1869. In those 147 years the company developed a reputation as a wholesome staple of brands to the point it’s been considered Americana – even Andy Warhol considered Campbell’s emblematic of the American experience.

But in the space of a 30 second commercial the Feminine Imperative and the feminist narrative has managed to corrupt, if not overtly destroy a brand identity that took 147 years to establish.

Last week I outlined how the imperative assimilated the Star Wars intellectual property and franchise; arguably another example of Americana. Monday I detailed how it is in women’s innate interests individually and in the Feminine Imperative’s interests on a meta scale to appropriate the works and fruits of men’s labors as a result of their Burden of Performance. And, once again, here we have another glaring example of the imperative’s appropriation of a storied brand identity to use as a vehicle for its narratives.

The gold of course is in the comments on the YouTube page. And as you might expect there’s a lot of predictable outrage swirling around how ‘not all women are like that‘ (NAWALT) and “wow, what a bitch.” The commercial message was even overt enough to trigger the average man to risk to consider, “flip the genders and look how this commercial reads.” But that’s just it, there is such a comfort with the Feminine Imperative in being this overt that even plugged in Blue Pill men cannot ignore the message.

What exactly is that message? In this case it’s the degree to which the imperative is comfortable in revealing truths about the nature of women. I’ve been calling attention to this comfort level for almost two years now. Open Hypergamy is almost a given at this stage. Open cuckoldry is beginning to establish a foothold in being socially acceptable, and later socially expected. In the coming years I believe we’ll begin to see an even larger degree of comfort the imperative has in revealing and reveling in innate feminine nature. This commercial, from a storied brand of comfort food no less, is the first illustration of this trend.

While this commercial and the hashtag associated are intended to shock, it’s important to understand the message that Campbell’s Soup Company is aligning itself with. Bear in mind that a board of executives, brand directors and marketing directs had to approve the message and budget needed to deliver this message. The fallback of course will be that the intent was humor, but they understand very well the latent message in the humor they will hide behind when the publicity backlash occurs.

No doubt the Jezebel set of the femosphere will either embrace the commercial’s message by parroting the trope that women hate to be men’s mothers, or they will decry it as portraying women as being heartless, careerist bitches – they just can’t win. In either interpretation the louder buzz will be as it always is, women being victims.

In a Red Pill perspective we see a lot of what we already know about women’s innate, visceral natures.

From Empathy:

Women cannot bear to see a Man experiencing negative emotions such as extreme anger, rage, fear, despair, despondency or depression for extended periods of time. You say you want to “be there” for your Man; but you cannot do it. If it goes on long enough, it kills the attraction; it sets off your hypergamy alarms; and subconsciously causes you to start hunting for a replacement Man.

A woman seeing a Male go through the above will seek to replace that Male immediately.

Women cannot listen to Men talking about or working out their dating/mating/relationship issues or problems. Women reflexively view a Man discussing such issues as “whining” or “complaining” or “bitterness” or “sour grapes” or “well, you just chose poorly, so sucks to be you” or “suck it up, no one wants to hear you bitching about it”.

As to both of the above principles; when a Male is involved, ratchet up by a factor of 5 the disdain and repulsion a woman experiences when seeing a Male do or experience the above.

I took a lot of shit from indignant women when I published Empathy. Yet here we have what was likely a half million dollar budget commercial graphically confirming exactly the premise of my post.

As a bonus this message also overtly confirms much of what I wrote in Vulnerability:

Vulnerability is not something to be brandished or proud of. While I do believe the insight and acknowledgement of your personal vulnerabilities is a necessary part of understanding oneself (particularly when it comes to unplugging oneself), it is not the source of attraction, and certainly not arousal, that most men believe it is for women.

From the comfort of the internet and polite company women will consider the ‘sounds-right’ appeal of male vulnerability with regard to what they’resupposed to be attracted to, but on an instinctual, subconscious level, women make a connection with the weakness that vulnerability represents.

A lot of men believe that trusting displays of vulnerability are mutually exclusive of displays of weakness, but what they ignore is that Hypergamy demands men that can shoulder the burden of performance. When a man openly broadcasts his vulnerableness he is, by definition, beginning from a position of weakness.

Yes ladies, I understand you’re not like this. I fully anticipate the “not in my experience” personalization each of you will attempt to adopt to placate any bad juju and your solipsistic mental point of origin. Just remember that this is the messaging your gender’s imperative is fostering. This is the message that Campbell’s Soup will stake its 147 year brand reputation on because it believes it will sell more soup.

It may seem that I’m being unduly critical of the narrative of this commercial, but remember that this narrative exists for a reason. I have no doubt women will chime in about how it’s an exaggeration, but what message is being exaggerated? What is the message that the medium is conveying here? For as much as the narrative would like men to be sensitive and open up about their feelings, for as much as it wants men to be vulnerable, all it takes is a 30 second commercial to confirm that men expressing weakness isn’t strength, and Hypergamy doesn’t care if your Mommy made you soup when you were sick as a child – stop expecting Strong Independent Women® to be your Mommy.

Keep in mind the contradicting message this commercial conveys here. This is the same degree of ruthlessness and insensitivity that the Feminine Imperative expects from, and finds attractive in, men.

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Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
6 years ago

@Scribbler

I have read your posts on this article. All I want to say to you is thank you so much for thinking of the young men who get brought into this world set up to fail. Beaten, abused, gimped, treated like human detritus.

That’s MY story. How do you deal with the bitterness? How do you deal with looking uphill?

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

Yolo conuts,
You’re asking nut scribblerg! For advise !?
Just keep on reading this blog and get Rollo’s books you Moron.

zip
zip
6 years ago

@ keyser

You work hard on splitting and dividing men with your overstated alpha-gloryfying and your ruthless Beta-bashing.

Divide and conquer. Are you a FI-troll or simply an useful idiot?

Besides you have zero empathy.

stuffinbox
6 years ago

@Rollo Tomassi I’m not the brightest wrench in the drawer and your use of the word ratchet sparked a lightbulb in my thoughts.Could hypergamy,disdain and empathy,levels be measured against societal comfort and fear levels,as a sphygmomanometer or barometer to measure the current threat levels to our lifestyles.Or are womens emotions to unreliable and swayed by to many factors to be measurable.

For example;Just push the excell button and pass this jerk already or get out there and catch a goat were low on milk.

This could be an old incandecent light.

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

Another celibate before marriage disaster: M42/F33 decide to go celibate 18 months before marriage. Now 6 years of marriage and in her words: When we made the decision to be celibate until our wedding day I prayed that my desire be removed. I thought that doing the right thing would somehow wipe the slate clean and at the same time prove that (he) didn’t want me just for sex. I fully expected things to go back to the way they were before once we were married. I thought the desire and passion would come back. It has not. I have… Read more »

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

“In hindsight I realize that withholding sex thing is somewhat a pattern. It has happened before but I never saw it as the same thing because the guys and the relationships were different. In the past I used sex as a way to get the guy—it was the only way I knew. I couldn’t see it then but it was my way of controlling them. Is it possible that I am now withholding sex as a means of control? If I give in and allow myself to be vulnerable, if I lose control, what then? I am stubborn…sometimes I won’t… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@Liz “To me the big things that will determine relationship longevity/closeness (for the women) are: Values, sex, overall positive and pleasant demeanor.” I had a couple moderately long drives in my truck this weekend and had a chance to listen to Dr. Laura Schlessinger ( On XM radio, I enjoy how she doesn’t suffer fools gladly). Her take on what a woman should do to determine relationship longevity/quality with a man (specifically her talking marriage quality longevity if that what she wants): “Choose Wisely, Treat Kindly.” How’s that for being concise? (Also why Insanitybytes spam didn’t last long here, nor… Read more »

Divided Line
6 years ago

@Stultus Sum “Re: Beta overthrow of Alphas. I doubt this would ever happen. Beta’s, by nature, are followers. They may on occassion resent an Alphas dominance but they still admire and require their leadership. My step-son is a genetic Beta from a long line of Betas on his bio dads side. It’s been a couple of months since I began red-pilling his Disney-esque view about girls and life. He has had some successes in adopting more positive masculine qualities but his default is still a solid Beta. His Best friend is a natural Alpha/Leader, and despite my best efforts, he… Read more »

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

SJF: ““Choose Wisely, Treat Kindly.”
How’s that for being concise?”

Brilliant. 🙂

I’m sorry to hear about your father’s passing. 🙁
From the sound of things, you used his passing to steer your life in a positive direction, and I’m sure that’s what he would have wanted. You never know what a day may bring.
(another reason to treat each other kindly)

Per death, I’ve joked that I’m going to have DNR tattooed to my tongue.
I’m only half joking.

just getting it
just getting it
6 years ago

The strength of emotion men are showing over the woman’s reaction to him is basically a mistake of expectations. We’ve been sold equality since we could understand words and bought into it. We’ve gone more than half way to meet accomodate women and let them into our team. The reaction we have to ‘I don’t care’ is what we would have to a male teammate letting us down, it strikes deep. They can’t sublimate themselves into the team as men do so we’re trying to mix oil and water. Women have accepted equality for its advantages but don’t fancy the… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Liz, I actually conflated the two inappropriately–my starting to really live and my father’s passing. I had actually been doing quite well firing on six of 8 cylinders up till then. I moved on to have the 7th cylinder fire up with red pill awareness and game, and the 8th cylinder came to life when I stopped drinking alcohol in excess. So I actually started really living in addition to and coincident with my father dying, not because of it. I’m actually a little different in this respect than most men. As Deida says “a man must love his father… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“You never know what a day may bring.”

From a line in Karin Slaughter’s “Pretty Girls”:
“Why is it that we always neglect the things that matter most?”

My motto: Everything matters.

(Said with the disclaimer that I’ve been fortunate and yet have had fortitude, my motto being easy to say from a position of strength, hard to do from a position of weakness)

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

SJF: “By the way, Liz I think both you and your husband would really enjoy “The Way of the Superior Man”. You have us pegged pretty well. 🙂 Mike likes those types of books, and he discusses them with me. He read that one about two years ago and really liked it. Sometimes he plays audio books of this genre in the car (male-centric self improvement type stuff). It’s good for our sons who are coming of age now (so happy the “Wheels on the bus” stage is over…well, sort of happy, it’s bittersweet). Right now he’s listening to ‘The… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
6 years ago

@IAS

Thanks for that, I wasn’t aware of that documentary. Don’t watch much TV. That adds a lot of context to everything I’m reading.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
6 years ago

@zip re: keyser soze

“Divide and conquer. Are you a FI-troll or simply an useful idiot?”

Not figured it out myself yet. Not sure if his inconsistency is a smokescreen to keep us off balance, or a manifestation of mental illness. At any rate he’s definitely attempting to be disruptive rather than constructive, and so is best ignored.

rocko
rocko
6 years ago

My experience in my last relationship does mirror this commercial, Basically, these types of women will not do anything for you unless you’re really in the hole and they “fear” they will lose you. Reactive rather than proactive. I have a feeling also that when she gets sick, she will demand foot rubs and lots of Vicks. Not just from her man, but from her mommy. Again, this happened to me too. To be fair, I haven’t missed a day of work due to sickness in 12 years or so, but there are other stuff like going broke.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Yollo – First let me restate again that I’m just another bozo on the bus so my “advice” can be total horseshit. Why do I emphasize this? Because if you have actual, serious psychological issues from abuse the first thing one needs to do is get THE RIGHT professional help and a diagnosis. I choose my words carefully when I say this – if you have a serious issue, you need to get professional help. The internet and the Red Pill will not cure you. And that’s where I’ll start: – Find a male therapist/clinical psychologist who understands abuse and… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

Part Two @Yollo – Then there is the attitude and approach within the Red Pill world. It is very tempting to see the Red Pill as the solution to all your issues but there is a doublebind here for men who have serious issues. We cannot “alpha up” unless we deal with ourselves, but the approach of the Red Pill can encourage men to think that they are just being pussies for not being able to overcome their illness. We men who have the extra burden of psychological issues must be more gentle with ourselves. What I do is realize… Read more »

smileyspider
6 years ago

How to advertise to woman 101:
i) They like to believe that they live in a snarky empowered sit-com. Show them they do.
ii) They like to believe that men are inept, show them that too.

The only thing the advertisers forgot to finish hammering home the message, was the male not being able to heat soup without the woman present to hold his hand.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Liz – You married a guy with the potential to become a fighter pilot – not just some pizza delivery guy. Let’s be clear, there are very few pizza delivery guys who will become fighter pilots. You were doing the exact kind of future calculations of value that we discussed in the last thread. Fyi, my oldest bro was a WSO in F4s and through him I met many fighter pilots along the way as he now flies aerobatic airplanes and does airshows where I show up and get the VIP treatment, dining with pilots etc,. The divorce rate is… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Forge and IAS – Very interesting on Pratchett. Indeed, society makes the decision to die a very difficult one. Family members and the state are particularly troublesome. I do think that many healthcare professionals see this much more clearly though. One of my sisters (who I’m very close to) is a nurse and did a long stint on cardiac critical care units where lots of people die or are dying or end up in comas or on life support for a long time in their end days/months/years, She knew when someone should be allowed to die but was prevented from… Read more »

randallg
randallg
6 years ago

My favourite comment from Youtube: Ashley Letterman 1 day ago (edited) I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how this commercial is supposed to sell more soup (presumably the purpose for which it was made?). I mean, this didn’t just magically appear from nothing. This commercial had to be approved by multiple people before getting made. What on earth was the PITCH? We make comfort food. We want you to feel bitter, nihilistic, untrusting and defensive. Take solace in our subpar, sodium heavy sludge after we remind you of the insignificance of your life and the futility of… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

To scribblerg “with love”
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZF5m-vmDzM

Emily
Emily
6 years ago

Liz,
As I already said, I don’t disagree with Rollo here. I just don’t think awalt.

I also wasn’t making any comment on whether your mom was right or wrong.

All I said was that your very obvious mommy issues explains a lot about YOU.

Vektor
Vektor
6 years ago

“Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, there when no one else is”. That’s the tag line. Not sure what to make of that. I think they think that the women viewers will like the snarky, dismissive wife. Because modern women never seem to tire of the ‘worthless husband’ theme, and they never tire of expressing just how much they don’t need anything from, or owe anything to, anyone…ever. For men, I don’t know. What? Is soup supposed to compensate for a frigid spouse? If she is ‘not there’ then why is she a spouse? If the wider message is that men have… Read more »

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

” Who are men going to follow if not the guy who women favor sexually?”

Brother, you fucking have to get out more!

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

sodapop, nice incel move, using a shagged out “heavy” metal whore to do your talking for you.

You rokc bro!

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@Liz – thank-you for your input. This feeling synergization is a sort of a new idea for me (or more precisely – a branding of something that has been roiling around in my mind since I can remember, but maybe it is time to label it, because it seems like it might be pertinent to an understanding of what exactly is going on man/woman-wise, at a deep subjective level, for both parties,in light of the redpill knowledge base I now have acquired). I ask myself – why do people do what they do? Why do I? Redpill (as well as… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@SJF “Wild man’s “synergization” is just his take on egalitarian equalism with lipstick on it. It is sure way to kill polarity (the desire dynamic) between the sexes in a relationship. And complementarity is entirely a different concept. A man and woman should be complementary-aware of intersexual differences and drive sexual polarity (Masculine-Feminine) in a relationship. (Hey, there is nothing wrong with true synergy–“with a habit of creative cooperation”. Teamwork, open-mindedness, and the adventure of finding new solutions to old problems. I just get the feeling that that is not what Wild man was getting at.) ” I think you… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

Thank you Rollo,
Scribblerg, was the first to fail the Charles Bukowski video, and now the Moron Nihilism, failing Blood in the moment.
Ps,
Do they really read your posts?

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

sodapop, what the fuck you thanking daddy for? Your “heavy” metal mummy not making “soap” for you anymore?

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Wild Man: “I think you (and others here) may be misinterpreting as to how I use the term “egalitarian” . . .”

“When I use a word,” Wild Man said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

sodapop, what the fuck you thanking daddy for? Your “heavy” metal mummy not making “soap” for you anymore?

Laughing out loud.
Keep going

empathologism
6 years ago

If she made the soup he should throw it at her because it would be the regular soup and not the healthy request.

Women crave empathy. Having/feeling/sharing/giving it……not so much. In the allocation it is two for her, none for you.

If the guy eventually got extremely ill, first she would martyr herself as a source for low hanging empathegranates. Then she would leverage the poor man to squeeze out the more difficult to source empatho-marrow. ,

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@kfg – why do you think I was using a scornful tone?

ThrillaInRedPilla
ThrillaInRedPilla
6 years ago

I wonder what tv shows this commercial is aired during. If the show caters to a female market then maybe women are the target market. And maybe the ad is meant to induce some sort of cognitive dissonance in the target (women) so that they won’t identify with the shitty woman in the commercial, but with the can of soup. NAWALT will kick in for the viewer and makes her buy the soup to prove it. The can of soup being the solution to the problem. And the NAWALT-induced consumer wants to be PERCEIVED as being a part of the… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Wild et al – I think that what you are talking about are aesthetics versus more rational, kinetic and material aspects of the human experience. I’ve recently observed that many times when I’m dealing with feminized men or women that aesthetics are THE THING that drives their consciousness and experience. It’s what captures their attention and holds it. It’s what activates their imagination and desire to “connect”. There is a huge problem with this kind of non-normative orientation though, and that is that it’s ethereal and superfluous. It comes and goes of its own accord and is not a sound… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Wild Man:

Why didn’t you ask me what my definitions of “scornful” and “tone” are?

Or, if you think I am using the colloquial definitions, why do you take the quote as applying literally, rather than as using a well known quote from popular literature to make a point?

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Vector – Spot on, this is to appeal to women. And what I think you and some others here don’t realize is that women control the vast amount of spending on food, more than 80% of it. This ad says clearly they don’t care about what men think in any way at all. Somewhere upthread it was noted that Campbell’s female Cunt Executive Officer stated outright that this was a strategic messaging shift to appeal to millennials. What this is likely really about is that Campbells’ demographic is mostly older women, and this is designed to appeal to younger women.… Read more »

stuffinbox
6 years ago

Can one of you guys lighten up and bring this video here for an old neanderthal?
nitro boat vs whiney girlfriend

Garrett H.
Garrett H.
6 years ago

1. Youse guyse watching TV in the first place is a red flag.
2. In selecting whatever manner of product, a High Advertising Budget should be a further red flag

e.g. Harry’s Razors

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@stuffin – Yessir!
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgFhJN4H0T0&w=560&h=315%5D

stuffinbox
6 years ago

Thankyou sribblerg Sir!
Sometimes if it doesn’t have apiece of wood attached just can’t run it.

bob bitchin
bob bitchin
6 years ago

If you want someone to emphasize with you, odds are-in todays world, you need a male friend. Women are so selfish and entitled-and have seen so little adversity- that they are a write-off. That’s my opinion. fwiw
The whole society has told them how.wonderful they are-since day one-without doing anything, that they are like the people in brave new world-horrified by ageing and sickness.
They have reduced themselves to vaginas. So be it.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@bob – Ding, ding, ding! “They have reduced themselves to vaginas. So be it.”

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@scribblerg – yes I am talking about an aesthetic. For men, I think there is an aesthetic for the objective perspective as well, we judge it (objectivity) accordingly, within the aesthetic of the subjective perspective, and if two parties share in this subjective valuation of the shared objective perspective – this leads to feeling-synergization (one of the many routes to feeling-synergization). I think this is as natural for a man as it is for a woman (i.e – “subjective aesthetic as non-normative orientation” is not an accurate descriptor IMO). I think the paths to feeling-synergization are different for men and… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@kfg – so you are mocking me then?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

I am capable of cooking virtually anything, and it tastes spectacular. My soup(s) are nectar for Gods. Fuck Campbell and their shitty, salt laden, chemical filled cans of bullshit. Happy New Year Everyone!!!! Me thinks many men see women as some version of their mother and mistakenly expect that a woman will exhibit the same mannerisms toward you that your mother did. It is not completely irrational to arrive at that conclusion, but it is indeed mistaken in a majority of cases, especially given the massive changes in gender relations over the past 60 years. The old gal ain’t what… Read more »

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Ying/yang

Male energy is outward, seeking, looking, adventurous, centred on other.

Whorepoosy energy is inward, narcissistic, unfeeling, settling, centred on self.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Wild Man: “so you are mocking me then?”

mock mäk/

verb: mock; 3rd person present: mocks; past tense: mocked; past participle: mocked; gerund or present participle: mocking

1. tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner.

No.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Wild – “Man naturally desires, not only to be loved, but to be lovely;” I bet nobody on this thread can guess the philosopher who said this? It was Adam Smith in his best work, Theory of Moral Sentiments. Wild, my problem is that your sense of things seems utterly detached from morality and virtue. What we desire to be and desire derives from what see as virtuous, We love what we believe to be the proper object of our love and seek to be the proper object of love ourselves. Your musings (interesting, no doubt) seem to be much… Read more »

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

Blax, nice.

With the rise of the western feral whorepoosy, it seems that the desire to marry ones mother has transgressed into the actuality of marrying ones father.

See commercial at top of post.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@DeNihilist – “With the rise of the western feral whorepoosy”. Jesus fuck is that true or what? I met one today who was truly hateful, ugly, fat and a complete loser – but with the attitude of a 9. It’s just completely fucking unbelievable to watch these broads operate. Did a little gaming with a two set, but my wing fucked it up utterly…Giving him a copy of Pimp to watch :-).

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Hey ScribblerG, You have some kind of autopilot or spellchecker that keeps inserting KFG for SJF, lastly in your comments @7:53. Did it before last week too. I’m glad you engaged with Wild Man because I was about to mock and flog him with my own psychological projection. I can’t be someone can make such comments here that are so verbose, brooding, inscrutable and mentally masturbatory. Hell, it makes me look good by comparison. Puts my verbose, inscrutable comments to shame. I like it. It makes my comments look tame by comparison. Much like looking around a commons and seeing… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

– Sorry about the brain fart. I find Wild’s ideas expansive but not grounded. Seems like beta longing, but I’m not sure. At least he’s thinking. Fyi, your comments on my state of mind did not go un-noted and I have been working on it. Amazing how anything yields to effort.

And don’t go shorter with your comments, tell more of a narrative instead. I can see our efforts to this end, and it’s an improvement. You have a unique POV and vast knowledge, and add a lot of value here.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Scribbler: “I also think you are using the term aesthetic quite loosely . . .”

If he applied his terms with simple rigour instead of laboriously weaving definitions out of aetherial mists he couldn’t demand his metaphysical fried ice.

: “You have some kind of autopilot or spellchecker that keeps inserting KFG for SJF . . .”

Although in this case it works well enough either way.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

I suggest you should waste some time and invite a hateful, ugly, fat and a complete loser woman to take walks with you in the morning sunshine during the winter with sunshine on your face in the brutal cold if you have the time (your most valuable asset, unless it is not). This would lay claim to game sport, the fact that game is fungible. And beat your Seasonal Affective Disorder at the same time. A work-around. I’m not lying, I practiced game, keeping frame with a hillbilly neighbor likely to steal my shit for scrap iron, with my hunting… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“Amazing how anything yields to effort.”

Affirmative.

The lower one imagines their everyday hurdles to be, the more they can take advantage of stepping over them without trepidation.

http://therationalmale.com/2016/01/01/empathy-2016/comment-page-3/#comment-134031

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@”metaphysical fried ice” – sweet metaphor. I also notice you use the English spelling of rigor and the obsolete form of ethereal. Is this merely an affectation or an artifact of your education or geography?

The City Bachelor (@TheCityBachelor)

Also noteworthy is the fact that the Strong Independent Women portrayed is overweight with masculine features.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“And don’t go shorter with your comments, tell more of a narrative instead. I can see our efforts to this end, and it’s an improvement. ” I get it. And thank you for your behind the scenes, off the record, suggestion to not go TL:DR by way of cut-and-paste. I will practice and study narrative. To advance the discussion and be engaging. Not to just mentally masturbate in my own head, but to engage with others. I’m getting better at investing my narrative socializing in the other person in real life–It is all about them, not you approach–which I find… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@scribblerg – I think we do agree on many points – for instance – “I’m intentionally claiming that focusing on the aesthetic is at the core of our rootlessness as a culture and society” – yes I completely agree – but I don’t see this enhanced focus on the aesthetic as necessarily a bad thing, but more of a natural outcome of the damping down of survival selection pressures around the post-agricultural cultural forms, and as such more or less revealing something about humanity that was there within the species all a long (a mammilian type aesthetic-focus, which was probably… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Scribbler: I suppose it’s an affectation of my youthful reading and dyslexia mixed up. I grew up with a predilection for older English literature, from preschool age, and the dyslexia has always kept my concept of spelling rather loose. On the plus side it means I’ve never had any particular problem reading Middle English. I also did do a stint at Queen’s University at Kingston. Since I am not firmly patterned in contemporary standard, my spelling, language and even style often reflect what I’ve been reading of late. Today it was Burton’s notes on the Thousand Nights and a Night,… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@Kfg – mocking – no. OK then. So you are just riffing on something I said by way of a teaching aid for the readership at large, like you (as seconded by Forge) were earlier alluding to, as the source of my lack of interpreting aptitude, for the posts you have directed my way then (because I was taking what you were saying out of context then)? As such, I guess I get it – otherwise not sure what you are after with the exchanges with me today. If you are just riffing on something I said by way of… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

Gents, I found our commenter Emily, she was commenting on the Campbells video, so I went to her youtube page and then to her Google+ page. She’s smoking hot, which is very interesting… Here’s her Google+ page. https://plus.google.com/photos/110481906821782059898 Interesting because she has the narcissism and unwarranted self-confidence very common in beautiful women, particularly today. She really doesn’t care what we think, she’s here to justify something in herself or work out something she’s confused about or just to get off on fucking with us. I read some of her comments on her Youtube channel and it’s more fo the same… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Blaximus
I am capable of cooking virtually anything, and it tastes spectacular. My soup(s) are nectar for Gods. Fuck Campbell and their shitty, salt laden, chemical filled cans of bullshit.

Really bugs me when a man keeps holding back, won’t tell us where he’s really at…

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“I’m getting better at investing my narrative socializing in the other person in real life–It is all about them, not you approach–which I find is the essence of PUA. And it provides real dividends.” I got a sense of this perspective at holiday party at the country club in early December. I watched a friend of mine, who I was talking to, engage another guy who is a very nice guy with a HB9 wife. Truly engage this faux AMOG who recent came into much more wealth recently with his company going public. Call the mark G and the engager… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Wild Man: ” . . . it would be better for me if you didn’t start with @Wild Man . . .”

I have made the explicit notation that when I’m riffing I tend to indicate it by not using a specific address.

“So you are just riffing on something I said by way of a teaching aid for the readership . . .”

I used the specific address. I was, entirely metaphorically speaking, poking you with a pointy stick, not to mock you, but for your benefit.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Wild – With respect, I’m going to be very direct with you to try and affect your thinking as I think it’s quite wrongheaded. Praxeology – In all your mental meandering, did you even bother to look up what this word means? I’ll do you a favor – it’s the study of human action. As an aside, this is also the nature of Austrian economics versus other fields of economics. The Red Pill is praxeology and as such has no ideology. Your trouble with it arises because you are approaching it as an ideology but it doesn’t contain one. You… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@Wild Man I didn’t actually read your comment @9:18 because it was typically Teal-dearish and I am watching my movie which is currently rated at 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. And quite subtle and humorous with a red pill lens super old married game perspective. But let me point out that in real life apart from internet blogs, a man is best served by a bottoms up approach to his own sexual strategy, rather than a top down societal approach to gaining traction in sexual stratagems. I see this top down approach also having a parallel in real life when state-wide… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

If any of you guys have a pressure cooker sitting around at home and want to make some soup for yourself when you are under the weather, or perhaps want to feed your woman, I would highly recommend Diane Phillips book “Easy Pressure Cooker Cookbook”.

It is simply fantastic in the soup chapter. Ham and bean, french onion, Manhattan clam chowder, good, bright fresh tasting:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Easy-Pressure-Cooker-Cookbook/dp/0811872564

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@scribbler – thank-you for the feedback I agree with almost everything you say, yet not your conclusions about my meanings. Praxeology – yes precisely – I am using the term egalitarian as a way of relating. I have already well-defined why it is appropriate to use it that way (many posts ago). One small point of many is that western culture uses it that way. It is a principle that is embedded in our institutions as a praxeology for relating to others – within the rule of law for instance. Egalitarianism – how it is faring given the radically changed… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“I was, entirely metaphorically speaking, poking you with a pointy stick, not to mock you, but for your benefit.” Yep. Ref. my last two paragraphs @ 9:13. Poke with a pointy stick indeed. If you you can accept the poking, you can accept masculine self improvement energy from KFG. You want to get lucky Wild Man, or do you want to get better? You wanna be practical and get laid, or you wanna be metaphorical and rhapsodize? You wanna pay attention in class to what Rollo, TRM blog, and the commentariat is teaching, or do you want to blaze new… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Wild – Hmmm, one wonders if this is worth it.

– Egalitarianism cannot be praxeology. It’s lake saying a bird is a fish. Egalitarianism is an ideology.

– Egalitarianism doesn’t exist already. It’s an illusion and an ideology. What we have are govt and social engineers building institutions and laws etc to force it but it’s failed utterly. It’s like trying to mandate away gravity, one can cry but it won’t work. Ever. Humans are not equal in the ways that people want. Abilities and aptitudes and outcomes will never be equal. That’s why I used the word “chimera”.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Wild – I suggest you read E. O. Wilson’s The Social Conquest of Earth to see how actual human progress occurs. A very simple version of it is that humans form social groups that compete with each other. All growth of human civilization has come from group competition much as human evolution arises from selective pressures. Groups will never be “equal” to each other and we don’t want them to be so as this would halt all the progress of human civilization. You want “egalitarianism”? Go form an egalitarian group – a small one, not the entire West – and… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

SJF, I understand that for a lot of people, a car symbolizes ” status “, but it’s something that I’ve never been able to fully wrap my head around. When an asshole buys a Porsche, he’s just an asshole with a Porsche. : ) Cars used to say things about the owner. Not since the 80’s though I guess. There’s a guy in my city who has a Lambo. It looks ridiculous diving down the ave. in choked traffic among the mini vans and Toyotas and Hondas. On top of that, it’s orange. I am not sure how to feeeeel… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Wild Person
I have already well-defined why it is appropriate to use it that way (many posts ago)

Which of the several meadering wall-of-text posts was that?
They all kind of blur together.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“Egalitarianism – how it is faring given the radically changed cultural conditions – we agree it is faring terribly – why? – because it has become “deeply disconnected from the actions and motivations of those around us everyday” – yes, precisely – what to do about it? – throw it away as a “dangerous, self-destructive delusion”? – what then? What are you going to replace it with? “ Tell me you have actually watched The Matrix with Keanu Reaves. That you understand why he chose the red pill. Tell me you understand what Rollo Speaks of as what the red… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

A guy at my job recently bought a 1972 Jaguar XKE V12. He was telling me he paid 60,000 for it.

Then he asked me for my opinion, after asking me if I knew what I was looking at ( ! ).

One of my favorite films is Gumball Rally. Here the rally departs NYC. Look for the red Jaguar…but don’t blink.

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@scribblerg – I think you have it slightly wrong – all growth of human civilization has come from in-group collaboration and competition and out-group competition much as human evolution arises from selective pressures, some of which have forced cooperation, especially during bottleneck periods in human evolution, probably occurring during times of severe survival selection pressures. I would be very surprised if E. O. Wilson didn’t say as much but I’ll look at his works again. If you are willing to categorize redpill as praxeology I see no reason to categorize the egalitarian any differently. Two sides of the same coin.… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

There is one car that gives me an erection…’67 Camaro. They might as well have just stopped building muscle cars at that point as perfection can’t be improved.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9g1bXjC-h0&w=560&h=315%5D

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Come on Blaximus, I was talking about men and the importance of gaming men in a social setting and I used the example of how, the Lambo ” It looks ridiculous diving down the ave.” but nonetheless my guy J with understated game rolled with it. But you started to talk about yourself and cars. (See how that works? I just shit tested you with my bluntness. Sorry.) If I were a HB8, and you just met me in a bar or at a get-together, you being a natural, would talk about what I just elicited values about. Or would… Read more »

A Visitor
A Visitor
6 years ago

Rollo, thanks for posting this. I don’t boycott brands often but I shall be adding Campbell’s to the list. That commercial was sickening. “I called my mom, who grew up on an extended family farm during the Great Depression and rationing shortages of WWII. She said, ‘Dump the ungrateful bitch.” @kfg I LOLed. “On the contrary, guys like Rollo and Dalrock have disabused many of us of exactly those things. Not every man has to learn the hard way- some of us have the wisdom to learn from the experiences of others.” @donal Preach. Knowledge is a double edged sword… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Blaximus: “I recall helping my dad break out the battery chargers for a shop filled with Triumphs and jags and a few Rolls, because half of them had dead batteries.”

Q: Why do the English drink warm beer?
A: Because Lucas makes refrigerators too.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@@@Wildman “If you are willing to categorize redpill as praxeology I see no reason to categorize the egalitarian any differently. Two sides of the same coin. It takes both to do justice to the scope of humankind.” YGBSM. “The Egalitarian” is code for feminist B.S. It is an ideology. Never been proven to work. Do you have proof otherwise. Marxism, ideology, never worked. Praxeologies are practical strategies that have been shown to work. You are promoting ideological themes, not anything remotely resembling practicality. What? Show me the pussy. Ok, maybe I’m being belligerent now. But it is for a good… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@SJF “But let me point out that in real life apart from internet blogs, a man is best served by a bottoms up approach to his own sexual strategy, rather than a top down societal approach to gaining traction in sexual stratagems” “Game for yourself. Your own personal strategy is what matters. Improve it.” Yes, – legislating a pussy stipend for each man wouldn’t be fun enough for anyone! (Except for me if I could successfully game the system for the “Inspector General” position). Obtaining willing pussy is always going to be about building attraction, redpill style. I have no… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Wild – Yeah, I’m done. I said I presented a very simple version of what Wilson had to say about all this, yet your supposed slight correction of what I said is nothing of the sort. With respect to what I said, your comment is what’s known as “a distinction without a difference.” You telegraph with your comment that you don’t understand the implications of The Social Conquest of Earth at all, actually. But since you are so obdurate, I’ll school you just one more time The mindblowing aspect is that “in group” operations have many benefits for a society.… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
6 years ago

@SJF – I shit you not mister! The femcunts (and all the others) have hijacked a perfectly good word, to spin their BS – that’s what the femcunts (and their brothas) always do. Fuck if they think they have the right to go Orwellian on this cornerstone of the western cultural tradition. We gotta draw the line somewhere. This is the place. Don’t swallow their bullshit on this. The egalitarian is a people sorting strategy – and requires the culling (in one way of the other) of those that can’t or won’t abide. That is what we have been doing… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@A Vistor: “Admirable but don’t be surprised if you can’t.” I won’t be, I know the stats. Performance capacity falls off a cliff at about 75. But don’t be surprised if I do. At 60ish in my specialty, I can still do 10 miles on a one speed bike in the time that the army alots 17 year olds to do 6.2. Basic is only 50 points, not the 60 of active duty and I wouldn’t need anything near an age world record. It’s doable. I don’t need easy, I just need possible. ” . . .he had just seen… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“Obtaining willing pussy is always going to be about building attraction, redpill style. I have no disagreements at all with that.” I apologize, but I have a Spidey sense that your definition of “redpill style” may be skewed regarding egali-whatever-you-call-it-equal-tarianism. Your alleged esoteric definition of the last hyphed word I tried to say, matters. It really matters. And I am going to beat you over the head with it if you think you are making a new paradigm. Complementarity. Masculine–Feminine polarity. Non-equalism, Not sameness, not aligning with “fake synergy” without polarity-energy. Synergy comes from complementarity and polarity, not from egalitarian… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Wild Man January 3rd, 2016 at 11:46 pm Pretend I’m the Tone Police. I’m citing you for changing your tone/lanes/rhetoric. Or you are just intoxicated. But then, I can understand that. Otherwise: Take three deep breaths. And repeat after me. Law #38 Think as you like but Behave like others If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

” The egalitarian is a people sorting strategy – and requires the culling (in one way of the other) of those that can’t or won’t abide.”

And if the people won’t abide, the cullings will continue until we have a new people.

What a Great Leap Forward such a Cultural Revolution would be!

goosfraba
goosfraba
6 years ago

@Rollo Tomassi You should check out the recent Sherlock Holmes episode. It shows a woman dressed up as a bearded man, working as a forensic pathologist. Watson proceeds to mock her that she’s working in a “man’s world”. Now they’re trying to sell the lie that women were pretending to be men in highly skilled labour? Just plain ridiculous.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@scribblerg

Clearly something happened to her when she was slutting up a year or two ago to bring this on. Maybe she was used and dumped by a playa, or maybe other girls accused her of being a cum dumpster and whore and she’s out to prove she’s something more. Whatever the deal, this is all quite interesting. Enjoy.

Alpha Widowed. Almost certainly. She’s punishing Billy Beta for what Alan Alpha did to her.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

And for the record, she’ll never be anything other than a hot piece of ass so long as she’s got an attitude like hers towards men. But she’ll just call them bitter, commitment-phobic, and any number of the other ready-made social tropes waiting to comfort her.

DeNihilist
DeNihilist
6 years ago

SJF, you know when you have arrived for it matters not if the face in front of yours is male or female, you just bring that person into your frame. Either by investing in their fairy tales or getting them to invest in yours.

Striver
Striver
6 years ago

I have not read E.O. Wilson. The 20th century argument to competing groups is WWI and WWII. USA was designed to be superior to European factionalism. Just like Rome dispensed with Greek philosophy and got on with the business of running an empire. We’re at the end of history. Democratic capitalism from here on out. 95% of the same stuff is supported by the leaders of both the left and the right. I do understand how it was inevitable that we got here while I also understand that it’s inevitable that it can’t last. Rome was undone by bickering at… Read more »

Emily
Emily
6 years ago

Scribbler, who is that? That’s not me. Nice try though lol.

Fyi it is doxxing if you go through her private photos

Kaminsky
Kaminsky
6 years ago

@Vektor.

“Women never seem to tire of the ‘worthless husband’ theme.” And they will never feel like they owe anyone anything.

On point there. One line of thinking in the manosphere that never seems to come up is how dull and predictable and repetitive all this shit is. For how many decades have women been running the same storylines. It’s very boring in addition to the other things wrong. BORING>

cheupec
6 years ago

Yet somehow I get this nagging feeling that the woman on that soup commercial is right. She is a good woman, or rather she is good at being a woman. The guy is holding a remote, watching TV. Most men sick enough to just lie there do not have any appetite for TV or remotes. They are lying in bed because they have something bad. They probably have an IV line in both arms, may be one or two more in the legs (or neck). And they may have a tube stuck in their nose, or mouth, or some other… Read more »

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