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Slut Walkers & Soccer Moms

This picture has been making the rounds on Face Book recently. Last I looked it’d been shared about 89,000 times from the source I pulled it from. For the most part, what passes for some organized debate in most comment threads about this centered on a conflict between two factions of women – the responsible mothers and the ‘Slut Walk’ feministas faction of the femosphere.

Yes, ‘responsible mothers’ and Soccer Moms are in fact a very vocal part of the Feminine Imperative’s sphere of social control. It’s a mistake to believe women of a feminist bent are the only driving factor in influencing a feminine-primary social order. It’s not just grrrl-power demi-lesbians with fuschia hair, it’s that sensibly dressed lady in Target too. As I mentioned in last weeks post, Peak Hypergamy is yet to be settled, but until then the women who’s sexual strategy would best be served by keeping the ugliness of it secret will be at odds with women who proudly embrace open Hypergamy with gusto.

It’s easy to apply our Red Pill lens for such things as TV shows, popular music and media, and see the social undercurrent messaging of the Feminine Imperative, but there are some more subtle instances that need a proper lens focus on them. One trapping of the Red Pill lens is that aware men often overlook the more personal, more localized influence of the Feminine Imperative when they see the most public displays of it.

I’ve stated in prior posts that if you took a roomful of God-fearing traditionalist women and asked them if they identified as feminists the answers would range from “No” to a resounding “Hell no!” However, if you asked them specifics of how a woman’s role in society should be defined, what a woman’s obligations to a man ought to be, or in what way women’s influence in should be expressed in our culture (westernizing), then you would get your real answer.

Most traditionalist women would be appalled to be associated with anything bearing the Feminist® brand name, but still find themselves carrying the same flag when it comes to their rationalized beliefs. The ‘Sisterhood’ comes before all other considerations – be they politics, religion or personal interests – the Feminine Imperative is the common thread that underscores all intrasexual relations with women.

Tribe of the Sisterhood

In a social context, a principle strength of the Feminine Imperative is a presupposed, tribalistic sense of intrasexual belonging amongst women that transcends politics, race identity, religious conviction and ideology. We euphemistically refer to this dynamic as the sisterhood, but this female ‘belonging’ shares it’s roots in our foraging evolutionary past. Thus, women from starkly different cultures or socio-economic tiers still share that common theme of pre-known ‘oppression’ by the nebulous patriarchy.

One problem I have with recent rise of self-styled anti-feminist “Red Pill Women” is that while on the surface it appears that they are “pro-men”, the real impetus is that they are “anti-feminists”. In other words, their primary concern becomes one of opposing the methods and ideologies of how best to assert the influences of the Feminine Imperative they both ultimately serve. The common tribalism of the sisterhood is still present, but the applications of how best to instrument it is the source of that conflict.

This is what I believe we’re witnessing in debates of this nature; it is a conflict between women who’d be better served by keeping men confused and in doubt of the mechanics of Hypergamy versus women who believe they’d be better served in openly and proudly embracing Hypergamy. This is the primary reason women despise other women who are openly ‘Gold Diggers’ or ‘Attention Whores’, or even prostitutes – their method of optimizing their own hypergamous interests reveals their sex’s larger sexual strategy which they’d rather men not fully comprehend (until such time as they are ready to consolidate on men’s commitment).

It’s important that Red Pill men not be fooled into thinking that ‘traditionalist’ women are in anyway less predisposed to the influences of their sex’s imperatives. They’re not unique or better suited to a feminine role because of their ideology, they simply can’t afford to have sexual rivals with different methodologies competing for the same optimization of Hypergamy.

Social Saturation

This may seem an unlikely way to address the core issue of this notice to school administrators, but read me out here. There are two presumptions implied in this message. The first is the presumption that these school-age girls are being shamed by expecting them to adhere to some modicum of dressing to a certain standard – a standard they can expect once they exit school as well I should add.

The second is that these girls wearing shorts that are too short, and bra straps so noticeable as to draw attention from school administrators (God forbid a male teacher make such a judgement call) would be more concerned with the their educational prospects than influencing the boys in their environment is questionable.

And lastly the presumption is that boys of a certain age should be taught to control themselves to counter their synaptic wiring and biochemical responses and not ‘objectify’ the girls who take it upon themselves to dress provocatively.

These are relatively easy assessments to make about the intent of this note, however, what both factions of women debating this presume is a condition of feminine primacy. The feminine presumption is one that this school is nominally founded in male primacy – the girls distract the boys with their advertised sexuality – but the expectation is one based in the male Burden of Performance.

While it’s important for men to have an objective understanding of their burden of performance, it’s equally important for men to realize that women understand the utility of that burden and put it to their own opportunistic ends. In a feminine-primary perspective that burden translates into these boys needing to be taught to act against their biological impetus.

The shaming isn’t about girls having their education interrupted for wearing booty shorts or their tits pushed up by exposed bras; the implied shame is that these boys are not being instructed to understand that their burden is one of controlling the very biology that compels them to distraction. In a feminine-primary context the real “shame” should be on the boys who see girls (who are signaling sexual cues) as the sexual objects these girls are intentionally making of themselves.

The implied prioritization of undistracted education is presumed to be focused towards the males in the class, but the reality is that this education is taking place in a feminine-primary environment that is being inconvenienced by social standards.

The Feminine Expectation of Performance

Instead of adapting to the realities of their environment, women expect men to accommodate their sexual strategies and incorporate them into their accepted burden of performance.

CH maxim: The feminist goal is removing all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality

This goal is eminently more achievable when men are taught that it is an aspect of their Burden of Performance to self-restrict their sexuality for a feminine-primary purpose. It was recently brought up in last week’s comments that the rise in unfettered, openly acknowledged Hypergamy is (or is becoming) a comparable condition to men’s unrestricted sexuality. The contrast of course was flipping the script and considering what the results would be if it were men who’s sexual strategy was unrestricted to the degree Hypergamy has currently.

In an exaggerated feminine-primary context, women like to believe this was once the case. Granted the apex fallacy is rife in that presumption, but the Feminine Imperative needs to establish a preexisting notion that women must necessarily suffer in a masculine-primary social order. That’s the presumptive social context this note was crafted in. The truth of the matter is that the Feminine Imperative cannot afford for both women and men to believe anything different if it is to remain the primary social influence.

This presumption is what brings women of conflicting ideological bents together in solidarity despite their disagreements; there is always a common enemy, a common opposition, in the belief that it’s men who are calling the shots for them. And as I said, this apex fallacy presumption is universal in that it transcends ideology and religious convictions. Thus we see similar social conventions used to maximally restrict male sexuality in those same institutions.

Holistic Game had an interesting take on this restriction this week:

I was raised Southern Baptist, then moved on to some form of megachurch-style evangelical Christianity in high school. I felt that sex before marriage was sinful, that lust was evil, and that the female body was a source of lurid temptation. It was a constant struggle not to look at porn. I remember being in a men’s young adult service when I was 24 and the pastor asked, with heads bowed, if any man in the room hadn’t looked at porn. I peeked and realized no one had raised their hand – every man in the room had indulged at some point. Though I couldn’t grasp it at the time, I’ve since come to understand that there is no point in repressing natural human desire.

I certainly couldn’t contain my urges forever, and ended up losing my virginity later that year. I was teaching guitar to a hot blonde beach babe a couple years older than me, and we got drinks one night. We fooled around, tipsily, and after a few weeks of on-and-off gropings I finally decided to fuck her. After the act was completed, I sat on her deck and looked at the ocean and searched myself. I never imagined the staining of my chastity happening in such a fashion, but I had to face the reality that it had happened. I tried to be honest with myself, and to my surprise, I found that I didn’t feel guilty. At all. The one thing I’d tried to save, that seemed to matter so much to God and his plans, I’d wasted on a stupid blonde I’d end up dumping. I should have felt overwhelmed by holy conviction, but didn’t feel anything but normality. I felt like I was finally part of the human race. This lack of guilt was the crack in the foundation that eventually led to the shattering of the whole rotten edifice.

Holistic expounds on this experience into doubting the existence of God (which I honestly think is a shame), but it’s important to understand how this presumptive state of male social primacy, and the necessity to mandate chastity as a man’s Burden of Performance has effects that go well beyond a man self-limiting his participation in his sexual strategy.

I think a necessary stage in becoming Red Pill aware is truly understanding not just our preconditioning, but the social environment that condition takes place within. This acknowledgement needs to take place in order to really unplug; it cannot simply be an acceptance that a guy was raised into his Blue Pill circumstance, he must also recognize the social conditions he’s still operating within, and he must recognize how to avoid the pitfalls and make the changes he wants to see in that world.

In a Blue Pill, feminine-primary social order plugged in men are left to participate in two institutions: jails and churches. I can imagine the frustration Red Pill men must feel when they see their friends trapped in those institutions. They see their friends in an endless tail-chasing of a performance of their own doing, but a result of their ‘teachers’ investing it in them. They contort in an endless self-expectation to be better men by self-defeating the essence that make them men. Then they are punished for the slightest infraction of acceding to that male essence, not so much by the women they hope to perform for, but rather a disappointment in themselves for not living up to what they believe are their own self-developed expectations of a standard that only serves the feminine.

Yes I know my enemies, they’re the teachers who taught me to fight me.

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Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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lh
lh
6 years ago

Kid: “Which is why it never occurred to me as even an unconscious instinct to actively AMOG another man with put-downs in in front of a woman to raise my status / show dominance.” In most cases in established groups amoging will happen when the girls aren’t even present. When the chicks show up the matter should be settled. A good AMOG will not need to physically block you from a girl. He can turn around without caring for the others, walk for some other place and the chicks and the other guys follow. What you experience as amoging is… Read more »

lh
lh
6 years ago

And Kid: Showing up here and making such a mess by picking every fight might even get you some respect. It surely got you attention like only “retarded cunts from hell etc.” usually get here (referring to past threads). That isn’t even bad. Don’t break it now.

Kryptokate
Kryptokate
6 years ago

@ scribblerg Once again, you demonstrate the power of your intellect while also showing that it isn’t in control of your emotions. Kid Jupiter clearly isn’t as experienced with women as you are, nor has he been through the same wringer of life experiences, but he at least responds to criticism and advice in a cool manner and doesn’t get defensive or go off on a hair trigger the way you do. He didn’t get rude and aggressive until you did, for no reason, and that’s an appropriate response on his part given you started outright insulting him without provocation.… Read more »

Kryptokate
Kryptokate
6 years ago

@ lh has it exactly right.

Kryptokate
Kryptokate
6 years ago

P.S. Scribblerg, I’m actually trying to be helpful. You’re smart, everyone gets it. You know whats going on. You don’t need to prove it so hard.

lh
lh
6 years ago

Kryptokate
August 28th, 2015 at 9:34 pm

And yet its scribbler getting you so emotionally involved to write this long comment full of compliments. See what he did there? This wildness is intriguing, isn’t it?

scribblerg
August 28th, 2015 at 6:15 pm

Kryptokate
Kryptokate
6 years ago

It’s because I find his need to prove his superiority to strangers disheartening and somewhat disturbing, actually. It bugs me when people who are that smart are so susceptible to stupid emotions. It’s a waste of his intellect to allow his judgment to be so compromised by the need to prove himself superior. It’s both a huge weakness and also frankly dangerous to others when really smart people have an unquenchable need to prove they’re the best. But yes, you’re right, he isn’t boring, that’s for sure. I imagine he’s a total nightmare for anyone who gets to know him… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

Kleptocake: “The actual sign of sexual attraction is a non-smiling, direct and very serious gaze. It’s animal, almost predatorial. A woman will give a dead serious face at a man with direct eye contact that is held for a second or two (which is a LONG time for two people who don’t know each other to look directly in each other’s eyes without smiling). Then she’ll look away. If she REALLY wants him she’s give him the “elevator” up and down look before making the eye contact.” N Badpainter : “Thank you Kate”.Oahhh. Now Me asking, Kleptocake, In which direction… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
6 years ago

Welp, there’s a new post so hopefully some people are still here lol. @Kryptokate. So damn close, as usual. I kinda like your comments here, they show intellectual power along with 1) insight into female experience coupled with 2) some acknowledgement of AWALT, even yourself. It’s good stuff. That said, I think you still don’t entirely get what the emotional dynamic is here between Kid and Scribbelrg. SJF has been trying his darndest to get guys here to see what ScribblerG is up to, with little success. Let me try my hand at it. @Jupiter Kid Scribbler is abrasive as… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Kryptokate: “Many of the supposed secret truths that the red-pill reveals are not actually secret at all but plainly obvious if you aren’t raised with religious myths.”

Well, in that sense I suppose some of us are Zion Born, rather than red pill. I would point out, however, that we had mothers and in our earliest years took them as the standard for everything great and wonderful.

Even the Zion Born have to come to terms with the fact that AMALT.

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
6 years ago

If a guy using insults and put downs to eliminate you from being with or interacting with a girl works, then he did actually win. You might say that he didn’t outperform you, like a team that you feel has played better than another for most of the game, then a trick play at the end of the game is what finally gives the team the lead and victory. But if the outcome is he got what he wanted, you didn’t, can you say he didn’t win? -“…especially in light of the way younger women are today, where they easily… Read more »

cheupez
6 years ago

@Kid I don’t think you are AMOGIng back a guy who outs you to a chick to get with her if you see that he is coming from a position of weakness. He is. He is coming from a position of weakness, in fact he is a weakling…and is strictly speaking not AMOGing you. He is a fukin weasel. But you should not out yourself to such a guy. Some men do not deserve to be treated like men. And they do not “AMOG” for long that way. However on this: “So you’re saying that women value men who put… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

Thanks for commenting about this issue, everyone. There were so many that I can’t answer each specifically. But generally, I wasn’t trying to start problems here. I was objectively trying to assess the supermarket girl set. Any responses I had to guys’ feedback wasn’t me trying to be defensive and reject the feedback, it was me trying to clear up what I meant by words and phrases that I used in my field report, and well as explain my mindset in that moment. I mean, we’re sitting here typing to each other, not speaking verbally. And, as we know, email,… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

Just want to add an aside: How many of you guys are familiar with and have read The Ethics by Aristotle? Yes, I know – boring college philosophy class stuff. But, I think it’s important for people to get re-aquainted with this material because it’s the basis of rationality, and we’re trying to be Rational Males here. Basically, Aristotle says there are generally two extremes, and to find truth you must stay in the middle ground. (Buddhism says the same thing – walk the Middle Path). Enlightenment resides there. Today, everyone seems to gravitate to one extreme or the other.… Read more »

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  Kid Jupiter

@Kid Jupiter
“We can be anyone we want on the internet…”
You know your right. We build in a way are online identity with what we say and only we know what we do.

Some of us have developed personas that come from the things we share. I’ve learned a lot from you about how you keep the middle ground. In the two I read to oppose is to support.

Don’t go away kid where all in this together.

Lucien
Lucien
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter

Props for citing the Ethics . . . that’s exactly the kind of thing I wish people were actually reading, once they get enough of the manosphere.

Speaking of ancient moral philosophy, the whole exchange on this thread reminds me of the Gorgias . . . with scribblerg playing the role of Polus, the young colt!

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

Heheh.

I cannot resist posting this for the nth time here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSdRMSG_k

@Kid Charlemagne

There are battles and there are wars. Think which would be better to win and which side you think we all are on.

Lurker
Lurker
6 years ago

“For the Argentine feminist economist Corina Rodríguez Enríquez, we need a cultural revolution, and especially coercion mechanisms to make men do as much house chores as women. Only in this way, she explains, it is possible for women to have the same space in the labor market than men.

We want men to take more time caring for the household chores, so we need them to work less.”

Shiva
Shiva
6 years ago

“Today, everyone seems to gravitate to one extreme or the other. No one seems to want to make the effort to walk the middle path – it’s kind of boring, takes effort, isn’t appreciated by those who’d rather yell and scream at each other from the extreme ends of things.” Western society as a whole also has conquerors paranoia. That make Western societies total war societies. They are hyper competitive even in peace time. Middle path is considered as Laid back attitude gets socially punished. Western organizations are remarkably anti-fragile but its not same for Western society. Either every one… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

We’re all on the same side here, I have no doubt about that.

@Lucien

It would be more appropriate for scribbler to play the role of Polus the Young Colt if he was actually a young colt. Then his insolent, know-it-all attitude could be excused and explained as a function of his youth. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case.

A Definite Beta Guy
6 years ago

Let’s not buy into the Golden Mean Fallacy, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation “Truth is somewhere in the middle” has merit, but the balance implies big changes in the fundamentals. For instance, Conservatives are wrong when they say the minimum wage will cause massive job loss, Liberals are wrong when they say it basically doesn’t matter. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Of course, the probable truth is that minimum wage losses of minor amounts DO cause job losses, but they are typically minor, especially as measured, because they are debated well in advance and the roll-out is well in advance, IE,… Read more »

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

ADBG: “I’d side with the Liberals on the AGW debate as fundamentally correct, but the doom and gloom is wayyyyy overboard.” It would seem to me that IF these “fundamentally correct” people truly believed what they espouse, they would: 1) Focus more energy on actually doing something about temperature control. The tech for sequestration of CO2 has been around for a long, long time, but those projects are afforded miniscule funding by comparison to…projects focusing on economics and government control. 2) The people who push for these economics and control measures have giant carbon footprints themselves, paid for by the… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

Are there any of the AGW priests and scholars also believers in free market capitalism, or defenders of private property? I think AGW is just a watermelon patch for growing scientific marxists, much like the social sciences have become labs full of petri dishes for cultural marxists.

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

“Are there any of the AGW priests and scholars also believers in free market capitalism, or defenders of private property?”

I think the premise is, things are so very very dire stuff like private property rights are of lesser importance. I can understand that to a point…exigent circumstances, urgent and important takes precedence and so forth. But, unlike the behavior one might expect from a sincere fanatic, their own actions don’t back their assertions. It doesn’t even pass the lowest level BS filter.

A Definite Beta Guy
6 years ago

The people who believe in AGW are dogmatic liberals, for the most part, and have all the baggage that entails. I try to tell my liberal friends why Conservatives won’t buy into AGW, and it’s because AGW is wrapped up into overall Environmentalism, and Liberals are almost always wrong on environmental issues. Not that humans don’t have an impact on the environment, mind you….we DEFINITELY have caused the most recent mass extinction event. But who gives a shit? We’re remaking the world to OUR image: that’s a GOOD thing. We need the world to serve us, we don’t serve the… Read more »

Jeremy
6 years ago

@A Definite Beta Guy For instance, Conservatives are wrong when they say the minimum wage will cause massive job loss… Wage minimums are a form of central planning. As such, they cannot possibly work for their intended purpose. Time and time again, central planning of an economy, or basically the consolidation of all business decisions to a central authority, has proven disastrous for cities, states, and countries. Wage minimums only exist in the U.S. because the elites have control over the money supply and use it to enrich their crony friends. This increase in the money supply in specific private… Read more »

A Definite Beta Guy
6 years ago

Jeremy, There’s a difference between saying Minimum Wage is good policy and claims by Minimum Wage detractors are wrong. Minimum Wage isn’t good policy. Re: AGW. You can show that carbon dioxide is not a warming agent and that humans are not generating CO2 or that there is an external cause to global warming (IE, sun increases). None of these are true. Where liberals are wrong, and I think this is an important point, is over-confidence in their modeling. There’s a difference between saying humans produce CO2 and increase warming as a result, and we can measure exactly what is… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

ADBG”…we have increased carbon emissions dramatically and changed the composition of the atmosphere, and this has caused measurable warming within our historical timeframe, and unabated this will cause too much change, too fast.” Not when the ground station data has to readjusted to account for a decade of recent cooling. Not when the data always has to be massaged, altererd, outright fabricated to fit a computer model that is not backward compatible with unmodified historical data. Climate science as relates to AGW or Climate Change is nothing but a con and way to give prestige, and research money to otherwise… Read more »

Rocket
Rocket
6 years ago

Just wanna weigh in on the Kid/Scribbler debate because it happens to be a pet peeve of mine as it relates to the Sphere. IMO a lot of this “be Alpha, be Alpha, be Alpha” is just so much bullshit. There is a lot of truth in making yourself better and yes it does work. But the “BE ALPHA !!!!” mantra is just selling your soul in a different way. Sounds like Scribbler bought into that. Marriage cratered and he had his life destroyed like millions of other men. Bought the BE ALPHA line and got his shit together. Rescued… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

Rocket – “The answer is just above. Know the two face lying asshole that me and all my friends wanted to beat the hell out of …. well in days past before we became civilized here was the answer. The next hunting expedition came back with 1 less tribal member. Mr asshole who slept with 3 of our wives … hell, we couldn’t even be sure that our children were actually ours when that guy was around. Next time out … no more Mr Alpha. Arrow in the back, and pushed down a cliff. Problem solved.” Hell Rocket we don’t… Read more »

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

“Sounds like Scribbler bought into that. Marriage cratered and he had his life destroyed like millions of other men. Bought the BE ALPHA line and got his shit together. Rescued his finances, went back to school, became an astronaut, fighter pilot and MMA fighter. Then a doctor, then founded his own company.”

You say scribbler was a fighter pilot? What plane and squadron?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Well, this has been an eye opener for me. I mostly enjoyed the back-and-forth engagement(s). I’ve thought long and hard, searching my memory banks because I wanted to be able to add something to this lively discussion, but I couldn’t find a point of reference that would be widely recognized. I’m just one guy, but in my experiences growing into manhood, guys didn’t amog. Maybe I’m still not 100% clear on the term, but to try and disrespect another male could be a deadly proposition. Even the ” nice guy ” amog was risky if the person being amog’ed figured… Read more »

Rocket
Rocket
6 years ago

“Rocket, Alpha doesn’t fit such a narrow definition as to only include the worst actors in a social setting. I’ve heard many comments about Alphas being pricks, assholes, jerks… but I think that’s just beta-speak for someone whose intimidated by stronger willed people.” You think wrong. Lots of Betas hate Alphas; the whole WK hatred of everything Red Pill is a good example. They hate the Red Pill because it teaches Alpha behaviors and they HATE that. Its embedded in their DNA as I said. In years past (long ago) the PUA’s that exist today and the Faux Alphas that… Read more »

Rocket
Rocket
6 years ago

Rollo … you had me until the last paragraph and then you went off the rails. Yeah, I must have an alpha mindset cause I’m telling you … you are wrong and its your site. I gave an example earlier where an “Alpha” fucked 3 men’s wives living in a cave 10,000 years ago and the men got together to put an arrow in the mofo’s back to take him out. He was an asshole and deserved to be taken out. That is how it worked for thousands of years. It had nothing the fuck to do with “accomplishments of… Read more »

Jeremy
6 years ago

@A Definite Beta Guy August 30th, 2015 at 11:40 am Jeremy, There’s a difference between saying Minimum Wage is good policy and claims by Minimum Wage detractors are wrong. Minimum Wage isn’t good policy. Re: AGW. You can show that carbon dioxide is not a warming agent and that humans are not generating CO2 or that there is an external cause to global warming (IE, sun increases). None of these are true. Unfortunately those do not serve the null hypothesis at all as they presume linear relationships between atmospheric gasses and warming. No such relationship exists. CO2 has specific EM… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@Rocket Rollo isn’t getting into the social dynamic of the Alpha mindset. He’s just analyzing and commenting on the psychological dynamic of the mindset. I agree with both of you – you on the social dynamic and him on the psychological dynamic. Rollo actually addresses what you wrote about the social dynamic in his Alpha blog post and in the first book, when he held up that douche Corey Worthington as an example of the Alpha Mindset. Alpha is necessary for blazing trails, so to speak, but not conducive to the cooperation necessary for social structures to form. Left unchecked,… Read more »

bluepillprofessor
6 years ago

@Scrib: “So pardon me if I don’t buy the “I’m a rock and my marriage is awesome and the exception, not the rule” crap. Most of you are making lemonade of your lemons and fair enough, the cost of divorce and the loss of your family isn’t worth it. But don’t tell me most of you are happy, I don’t believe you” I would also bet the happy guys do not outnumber the unhappy guys. For most- 80% or more it is a driving grind to betahood and the wife friend zone. @Scrib: “Evangelical Christian Alpha – isn’t that an… Read more »

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