Just Get It

I don’t usually cite Athol Kay on Rational Male, but I have to give him props for his recent How Walkaway Wives Run a Dirty MAP. There’s a lot going on in this post, and as per usual Athol approaches all of his observations from a married perspective constrained by a limited single-life experience, but a few fundamental points of Game really shine here. To be sure, relationship Game (or married Game) varies widely in application compared to the Game used in single-man-sex-life, but the foundational principles are essentially the same – as are the pitfalls – only the risks are higher and the rewards negligible by comparison.

I’ve stated this before, but, having experienced the ups and downs of single-man-sex-life as well as married-man-sex-life, I can honestly say that I’ve never found Game more necessary than when it’s within the context of marriage. I’ve also written volumes about the all-risk proposition of marriage for men, and women’s utter inability to appreciate the all-risk sacrifices men assume in committing to marriage. So it should be obvious that under such conditions if a man chooses to entertain a lifestyle of marriage the only acceptable condition is that it be within his frame and his terms. And this, gentlemen, requires not only a commitment to Game itself, but an understanding of, and an internalization of a much tighter Game than would be necessary in single-man-sex-life.

Higher risks mean less margin for error

In your single-man-sex-life Game, you have the leisure to Spin Plates, drop the ones which don’t produce dividends, and non-exclusively enjoy the ones who do. Though it may pain you to lose a particular girl as the result of fumbled Game, or to miss the opportunity of experiencing a woman due to a failed approach or consolidation, it pales in comparison to the risks inherent in lacking the long-term Game necessary to contend with women’s hypergamy in the context of marriage. Dumping a girl (or getting dumped) when single may be an emotional ordeal for some guys, but the decay of a marriage and the financial, familial and emotional consequences for lacking Game in marriage is a punishment that will make a single man’s break up tears seem like a blessing. Tight relationship Game means much more than just getting your wife to fuck you more regularly after the honeymoon.

A lot of men will respond that marriage is just not worth all that contextualization of Game, and they’d be right. It’s all risk with negligible reward / appreciation and the liabilities are too steep. Furthermore, there’s a contingent of men who’ll say that it’s impossible to perpetuate the solid Game necessary to assuage female hypergamy indefinitely, and they’d be right too, if Game was a constant act for them that they felt they had to keep up forever. Some guys get mad at just the suggestion that they’d need to Game their potential wives. “She should just love me for who I am!” They expect to be able to drop the Game, relax and be who they are, only to have their wives progressively convert them into an imagined ideal which really isn’t the guy who tingles their vaginas. Then they find out that their wives loved them for who they were.

Crossover

One of the points that jumped out at me from Athol’s post:

When the lines of communication are broken between you and your wife, you aren’t going to get a message that the lines of communication are broken. That’s what the lines of communication being broken means. When she checks out of the marriage, she doesn’t tell you because she checked out of the marriage. That’s what being checked out of the marriage means.

I usually have to control my laughter whenever I overhear an AFC in the crab barrel parrot back the Matrix-speak about how “good relationships are all about communication with your GF/wife.” When this is coming from a single guy I can at least partially excuse him for lack of any practicable experience, but when it comes from a married Plug-In it’s just evidence of the totality of his conditioning. Most guys who tell you this are repeating what their girl-friends always told them was the most important key to a good relationship, but as with everything femme there’s always a latent purpose underneath the veneer of aphoristic truth they sell themselves.

A few months back I was at a liquor event with my usual ‘pour girls’ and during our conversations one tells me about her ‘guy problems’ with a “clingy boyfriend” obviously on the down end of an SMV imbalance.

“It’s so frustrating Rollo, why can’t guy’s just get it?”

With a practiced, but cute, little wrinkle of her nose, and the huff of her $5K tits, my girl had just indirectly revealed one of the most vexing complexities of intergender communication – women want men to “just get it.”

Just Get It

From Female Dating Advice:

The guy with the capacity to call a woman’s bluff with a confidence that implies she is to be worthy of him rather than the other way around is the Man to be competed for. Essentially the ‘chick speak’, ‘chick advice’ phenomenon is a shit test writ large on a social scale. And even your own mother and sisters are in on it, expecting you to ‘get it’; to get the message and see the challenge for what it really is, without overtly telling you.

She want’s you to ‘get it’ on your own, without having to be told how. That initiative and the experience needed to have had developed it makes you a Man worth competing for. Women despise a man who needs to be told to be dominant. Overtly relating this to a guy entirely defeats his credibility as a genuinely dominant male. The guy she wants to fuck is dominant because that’s ‘the way he is’ instead of who she had to tell him to be.

Observing the process will change it. This is the root function of every shit test ever devised by a woman. If masculinity has to be explained to a man, he’s not the man for her.

In my Pour Girl’s example we see this ‘get it’ paradox from the single-man-sex-life perspective, and in Athol’s scenario we see it from the married-man (or LTR) -sex-life perspective. Many men will complain that they hate the presumption that they need to be a mind reader and ideally women ought to just communicate overtly and directly – just as a reason-based man would communicate. The problem is that in doing so it changes the dynamic for hypergamy. As I’ve stated so often, women say they want the truth, but they never want full disclosure. Hypergamy will not be pandered to, and will not be negotiated with.

This is why the “communication is everything” meme has been responsible for the demise of more relationships than anyone will ever admit. It’s not that you communicate, it’s what you’re communicating and how you communicate it. I’ve counseled more men than I care to recount who’ve sobbed from the depths of their souls, “IF SHE’D JUST TELL ME WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE HER LOVE ME I’D DO IT!” not realizing that their very verbalization of that and a belief in open, rational communication is the very thing that’s killing (or killed) their woman’s desire for him.

As I’ve written a thousand times, a cardinal truth of the universe is that genuine desire cannot be negotiated. The moment you tell your wife, your girlfriend, that you will exchange a behavior or attitude or belief or any other compromise for her desire you fundamentally change her organic desire into obligation. What she wants, what her hypergamy wants confirmation of, can never be explicated, it can only be demonstrated. If her desire is for you to be more dominant, her telling you to be so negates the genuineness and the validity of your becoming so. Again, observing a process will change it – on a limbic level of consciousness her innate hypergamy is aware of that truth.

She wants a man who knows he needs to be dominant with her, that is the confirmation of hypergamy.

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Love's Orphan
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Love's Orphan

If I understood, the point is to demonstrate dominance through actions. Saying “I am dominant.” is not the right thing. Like, going NC without saying: “Hey, I’m going no contact for x months.”?

Samuel Solomon
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Yes, Yes, Yes. If a woman has to tell you she wants you to be Dominant, and you do it, you are STILL DOING WHAT YOU ARE TOLD. Women are usually too dense to be able to elucidate what they really want anyway, and are reluctant to do so too, knowing that what they want is subject to change at all times. They want you to GET IT We must also carry this over to other parts of how we function with them. They want to know that you have discretion to keep something on the DL. They want to… Read more »

Wilf
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Wilf

Ouch! After a blow out fight with my wife a couple of years ago, she actually tearfully screamed at me that she wants to be dominated! This was pre-red pill me. I couldn’t believe it at the time as it seemed to go so against the dynamic we were in for years, i.e., AFC operating out of her frame. I’ve learned a lot and made a lot of changes since discovering the manosphere, but this article made me cringe with the memory of how hard I’d fallen. I’ve got to concur that game is so important in marriage!

Heywood Jablome
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Excellent post. Bookmarked it, on the off chance that I ever marry.

Wilf
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Wilf

@Samuel Solomon “Just basic stuff. A man who is not afraid. A man who is powerful enough to never flail about over a damn girl. A man who knows when to laugh at other people’s bullshit and never get sucked into petty attitudes, from others or from her, either. He never backpedals. He never shoots off his fucking mouth. He is far more stoic than emotional in his outward demeanor. He is the man who would kill people in the zombie apocalypse without one shred of remorse or emotional uncertainty. He is the man who doesn’t ask awkward dumbshit questions… Read more »

Sword
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Sword

While game is definitely needed to keep a marriage from its natural course of collapse, in most circumstances it is clear the bounty in terms of sex is on the side of being single.

Really, sex from girls is there reward to lure you in, once you put the yoke on, they no longer need to ‘reward’ you.

Sam Spade
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Sam Spade

Great post. I also enjoy the MMSL blog for its perspective. Anyway at some point a switch flipped in my mind. I stopped trying to “figure out” women a long time ago. As long as I keep running my program I’m fine. She is always going to run her program, so I run mine. One works for man, one works for woman. When they run together you’ve got yourself a damn good thing.

bigern77
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Sigh. So much effort spent on these wombmen. I was reading pre-WWII history last night and it was fascinating to see what a world run by men looked like. A world where all of this sex-related stuff was properly compartmentalized and regulated and all of our life’s energies put to more interesting use. There was none of this stuff like “gaming” your wife, grown men trying so hard to please bratty women, etc., since women were under control in those days. I seriously feel like we’ve entered the god damn twilight zone here with what women are becoming, especially in… Read more »

xclampa
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xclampa

‘good communication’ is such an obscure term… There are layers to communication, and it’s not all about words – by definition it’s about signals. Actions speak, decisions speak, gestures speak… Sometimes there’s worth in silence in communication, as well as extending the means to different channels. The girlfriends who wield communication may not necessarily mean that, but it’s just a theoretical clarification as well as something I believe in. As well as the role of consciousness and logic in communication. ‘Effective’ communication (verbal or non-verbal) in relation to partners will take into consideration the best position from which it should… Read more »

theprivateman
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“If a woman has to tell you she wants you to be Dominant, and you do it, you are STILL DOING WHAT YOU ARE TOLD.”

There is so much sense in this sentence that it hurts. Hell, this entire post should be enshrined in the Manosphere Hall of Fame.

Stingray
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“IF SHE’D JUST TELL ME WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE HER LOVE ME I’D DO IT!”

Just reading this sentence makes me cringe. A man who is under a woman’s control breeds contempt and she will be incapable of respecting him.

Peregrine John
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Peregrine John

The girl’s original question was never actually answered, though. She may or may not have any conscious idea of what “getting it” would practically mean, outside of the immediate problem, and quite possibly does not want to even think about what it really means. This is because of the actual answer to her question, “Why can’t guys just get it?” They can’t get it because they’ve been lied to. Women have lied to them from childhood, men who’ve bought the lies have repeated earnestly them, and society in general (who was it that said women are society?) lies to them… Read more »

modernguy
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modernguy

These dumb bitches want washing machines and airplanes and sitcoms and all the creature comforts provided by obedient betas and they want dynamic unpredictable entertaining dominance from them too. At this point the only decent thing to do is pump and dump them until they don’t know what to want anymore.

Johnycomelately
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Johnycomelately

I’ll never forget the day I saw a 6’5 300 pound Lebanese man (local thug) wincing with tears at a parking lot pleading with his girlfriend while she looked at me with a look of total disdain and discust.

This post completely encapsulates that brief moment.

Big Ern
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Big Ern

I think early man figured this out, and then said, “Fuck these mind games, we’re stronger than you”, and put all of the womb men under control. And on that day, civilization was born.

Ronin
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Ronin

“even your own mother and sisters are in on it”

If i could go back 20 years and chat to a younger me….oh well.

GGG
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GGG

To me, the reality of women needing men to ‘get it’ can be boiled down to a peculiarity of humans, whether male or female. The image of the dominant male is sacred to the majority of women so to tell a man what they desire is the same as destroying the element of the image that is so appealing- self determination. It’s like an art collector attempting to copy his most expensive acquisitions and discovering he can paint convincing forgeries, or even like a plugged-in father explaining to his daughter exactly how to manipulate men like himself.

Brutus
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Brutus

I think the Private Man gave a good answer as to why men today just don’t get it: “Masculine dominance is viewed by a feminized society as dangerous. So, little boys are taught at a very young age to be quiet and meek if they are to by accepted by female authority figures, particularly mom and teacher.”

It’s tough to exhibit dominance when men have been told since birth that being a man is a defect to corrected with the appropriate propaganda and/or psychological drugs.

Lone Planet
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Lone Planet

In the end, women are not worth it.

3rd Millenium Men
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3rd Millenium Men

Utter brilliance. I agree with private man- hall of fame worthy post.

Alpha Mission
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As men we need to be dominant, not just for each of us individually, but for the whole of civilization. I am brewing an article about the feminism, communism, and atheism, and how they relate to one another and will likely all 3 be used (because they support each other) to bring one man (yes, man) into power. It is important for us not to give up on masculine dominance, or else the few very powerful men who can manipulate their way into great power will have no credible threat to their ascension.

Mark Minter
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Stephanie Fox is back on Millionaire Match. That’s right and we should all rejoice. Her headline says “I’m back and I’m better than ever”. I don’t know where she went, but she was gone for about 6 months. She is a 32 year old HB 8.5 and she looks like a Vegas stripper (I don’t know that she is. She just has that look and body.) A Vegas girl on MillionaireMatch could be shopping for out of town guys that blow into Vegas and need a local girl to rock with, or she could the typical MillionaireMatch entitlement princess that… Read more »

furiousferret
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furiousferret

I believe that a guy’s wife actually wants her husband to pass her shit tests. Most wifes don’t want to think that their husband is a loser. I think that’s actually want annoys the hell out of them the most, is that their husband is failing these simple little shit tests when he should be passing them with flying colors.

ImmoralGables
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ImmoralGables

The ominous tone of Mark Minter’s post has left me shook

immoralgables
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immoralgables

The ominous tone of Mark Minter’s post has left me shook.

furiousferret
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furiousferret

Agreed,

Mark Minter’s opinions: ‘We’re all fucked’.

You’re not invited to the wedding big guy.

Mark Minter
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Actually my nephew is getting married and I am to stay the fuck away. I don’t know how I could sit there when the preacher says “Speak now or forever hold your peace” without just going off. He is the closest resemblance to me among all my nephews. Only my son looks more like me. I want to kidnap him, tie him to a chair, and read Rollo posts to him for 5 days. I have had knock drag out fights with my sister over him getting married and have been instructed to stay away from him. My opinion is… Read more »

gregg
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gregg

Mark – I agree. This “alpha” stuff is ridiculous. What are we gentlemen? Bunch of losers scratching their heads about what to do to be WORTHY of pussy???? How to ehm ..”keeeep your wife happy”? What about integrity, freedom? Women are like children. MEN are thinking what to do, to be worthy of CHILDREN? I am disgusted. Wise man would not enter this marriage business but frankly, how many wise men are out there when it comes to women? One in a million? Anyway, you made an interesting point concerning the “value” or “league” of your woman. While it is… Read more »

gregg
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gregg

I do have to add one think. Again – we men are so blind and stupid when it comes to women that almost EVERY chick is able to find a DECENT man, if she wants. We must have been made that way there is no other logical explanation for me. Our linear brains are worth nothing when it comes to women. I witnessed many, many couples in which the man is good looking, with great personality and decent income and the woman is UGLY, JOBLESS with bitchy personality. Almost all my friends from childhood settled with under/average (including personality and… Read more »

Stingray
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@ Mark Minter, It’s just like the big Rottweiler. It’s a good analogy, but I have one question? Why did you go for the big Rottweiller? I’ve had a Rottie for 12 years as well. We got one bred for temperament and not bred for size. She a 74 pound sweet heart. Does she give us a hard time once in a while? Sure she does. We still have to be careful, but we control her. It’s the same for women. FInd a woman based on temperament, not her *size* (I’m not implying this is in anyway easy but there… Read more »

Mark Minter
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I had a doberman before. I don’t want to seem like a trailer park guy with big dogs. But the Doberman was the best behaved dog I have ever known. She was smart as a whip and understand whole sentences. It was amazing. A dog trainer came for an hour to teach hand signals and she and I worked together for another couple of hours over the next couple of days and then never used it again. Two years later we were somewhere and she was not on a leash. We went to cross the street right when the cross… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
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“IF SHE’D JUST TELL ME WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE HER LOVE ME I’D DO IT!”
Just reading this sentence makes me cringe. A man who is under a woman’s control breeds contempt and she will be incapable of respecting him.

Oh, but it’s the basis of so many hit songs,…

b-166er
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b-166er

bigern77 August 22nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm Sigh. So much effort spent on these wombmen. I was reading pre-WWII history last night and it was fascinating to see what a world run by men looked like. ——————————————————————————————– Right on. I saw that world as a child in the 70s. My mom treated my dad like a “colonel”. This all came back to me one day when my ex was giving me sh$t about my driving. I thought to myself, “my mom would never have even considered questioning my dads driving, ESPECIALLY in front of us children”. In 18 years, I… Read more »

cynical optimist
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cynical optimist

@ b-i66er “All these years Ive been looking for a type of woman that was “disciontinued” long ago.” the pragmitist would still like to believe this possible but the more enlightened one becomes the deeper the hole goes, as unfortunate as it is there is no ideological esoteric uptopian aristocracy, the social paradigm two decades was a morally coerciably enforcable system of social engineering. As a 27 year old man i will never marry not due to the great wealth of knowledge garnered here but for the fact that my father married a bpd woman and that is a whole… Read more »

Stingray
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From the Stabbing Westward song: I know exactly what you’re thinking But I swear this time I will not let you down I’m not as selfish as I used to be That was a part of me that never made me proud Right now I think I would try anything Anything at all to keep you satisfied God I hope you see what losing you would do to me All I want is one more chance… tell me He lost her with “But I swear this time I will not let you down” And from there it just gets worse.… Read more »

A.B. Dada
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A.B. Dada

Minter:

The Wall doesn’t mean won’t can’t get beta orbiters; it means all she can get are beta orbiters.

Women don’t want them, get bored of them, but then have little more to turn to.

I have a dozen or more 30-something hotties begging for advice on how to find a man. I tell them: you can’t, you’re not 22 anymore.

The Wall.

bigern77
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The simplest way to turn a woman off is to appreciate her.

Phinn
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Phinn

Speaking of hit songs and their Game significance, consider the recent one by Gotye, Someone I Used to Know.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY&w=560&h=315%5D

It couldn’t be more beta. It even has “still be friends” written right into the lyrics. She apparently responded to beta-ness by having her friends picking up her things from his place, and changing her phone number.

GeishaKate
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GeishaKate

@A.B. Dada: Point taken, but, even in her thirties, a woman is still younger than another subset of met. While it seems men up to their fifties are still looking for twenty somethings, there does come a point when that starts to be unrealistic. I think its just a matter of finding your niche market. And having something that sets you a bit apart from a crowd. You might have to understand that if you spent your prime years with someone else, you may not get someone else’s prime years. You’ve gotta wait till they’ve gone into player retirement 🙂… Read more »

Stingray
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The simplest way to turn a woman off is to appreciate her.

Yeah, if you appreciate her for who she is, this is true. It is the pedestal. However, I think women very much like to be appreciated for the things she does, when done well.

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Lone Planet
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Lone Planet

Even if you have tight Game, you’re still screwed. Game is not a cure.

Omega Male 2012
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Omega Male 2012

I’ll get married when unicorns and faeries start popping up. Until then, there is no point.

I’ve read a lot of MRA and similar blogs over the last year or so, and my problem with all of them is the same:

Every blogger can reasonably explain what the problem is.

Virtually no one offers a solution.

namae nanka
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namae nanka

“Masculine dominance is viewed by a feminized society as dangerous. ”

They are insecure little girls! Fragile female egos!

they won’t even tell it to men who seek advice from them:

http://davidcollard.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/women-policing-the-hierarchy/

LDC
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LDC

@phinn — i thought that gotye song was lyrically embarrassing. too. But after hearing the girl’s part, it seems the male had women on the side. and that’s why she left, thus why he’s sad

mr.magNIFicient1
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mr.magNIFicient1

“But I was an excellent owner and I controlled that big 130 pound dog in a heroic manner. ”

I’m sure the kid, now disfigured for life, would concur. Owners of vicious dogs and “barkers” are passive-aggressive douchebags. I’ll bet a month’s pay that you have an extra loud fashion-harley too.

As you were.

Senior Beta
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Senior Beta

After reading Minter I think I need a drink. Or six. Is it Friday yet? The nephew marriage story really hit home. Went to a relative’s weeding recently and heard the groom’s dad (the relative) toast how his son puts the bridge “on a pedestal.” She is an HB8 for sure. Told the groom (age 30) I would slip him Athol’s book later. Hope it helps. After reading this post and Minter I doubt it.

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christianplayer
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Enjoy the game with no expectations.

Mark Minter
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mr.magNIFicient1 I have a poodle now. I made a mistake when I bought the dog. I had actually tried to sell it when it was puppy. At the time, I wasn’t harsh enough as a person to go ahead and put it down. Now, I would. But at the time I viewed as my son. That was point of the analogy. The best way to avoid trauma and catastrophic situations is to never even expose yourself to the possibility of them. In the late 80s all these cute Rott puppies showed up. They had not been even seen in the… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

Stingray, please consider this song. It’s a kind of love song also.

Cheater?
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Cheater?

As a woman I’ll say this “communication is key in a relationship” depends on the communication styles of the individuals involved. I had a boyfriend who had a completely different communication style than me and our communication was horrid, as was the relationship. Now I’m with someone with a similar communication style and its great. What is key in a relationship is having things in common, such as values, lifestyle, beliefs and world views. The more you have in common the more your communication styles are likely to be compatible as well. Our materialistic culture has it backwards. Looks and… Read more »

Michael Maier
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Solomon’s first post on this page is just about perfect. It provided some much-needed perspective today, as I’m dealing with some truly screwed-up female duplicity.

Lying infuriates me, quick. And this woman lied to me, big time.

a simpler place in time
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a simpler place in time

This excellent post reminds of the mid-80s minor hit “If She Knew What She Wants”. The song was originally performed by pseudo-indie artist and song writer Jules Shear. It is the prototypical beta ballad about being befuddled by female fickleness
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYTND2ZwrGI)

The Bangle’s version flips the script of the song and has Susanna Hoffs ramping up her coquettery to 11 as a hamster given material form solely to mock the beta for not “getting it”. The more masculine Peterson sisters are on back up vocals in an unfruitful attempt to inject logic into the situation.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjQ76vqwYMk)

Stingray
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Stingray

Anonymous Reader,

My original comment got caught in the spam filter. WordPress does not like me commenting on other blogs at the moment. Anyway, that song is hysterical! I think she would respect him more after that if she ever woke up.

D-Man
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D-Man

A clear indicator of how completely the feminine imperative has taken over. Why doesn’t a man have the right to complain that his gf/wife doesn’t “get it” and should be more sweet and submissive? A lot of people these days would laugh at that. Because as a man, if you have to ask her for that, it ruins it. It’s the same dynamic, but why does one side have license to complain but not the other? I have been in this situation (never again now that I understand)… and almost every married guy I know feels this way. Their wife… Read more »

dramafreepaul
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NBA players work at their craft. But most of them are naturally gifted athletes. And a lot of them could play another sport at a high level.

Does anyone think “just get it” can be inherent? Are some guys just born with that knowledge? You either have it or you don’t. You can read blogs, have game, Red Pill it, or whatever else. But you either just get it or you don’t.

For what it’s worth, my game is I have no game.

D-Man
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D-Man

Women burning 50 Shades of Grey (written by a woman)…

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/uk-womens-group-plans-50-shades-of-grey-book-burning/article4494729/

Fantastic for two reasons:

1) shows division in the ranks

2) every regime that commits libricide seems to obsolete itself

Rollo Tomassi
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Women’s animalistic sexual impulses are exposed (and reveled in) and now they want to burn the evidence.

Sorry ladies, the hypergamy Genie is out of the bottle.

Stingray
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I realize they go hand in hand, but I don’t think the feminist care one iota about hypergamy. It’s the natural state of submissiveness that has their panties in a bunch.

Cheater?
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Cheater?

“Women’s animalistic sexual impulses are exposed”

Not really. 50 shades is not a BDSM manifesto. It is really tame and sappy. Tied wrist? Ooooooh that’s so radical. Not.

Hero
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Hero

On the book burning. So disheartening how they just throw around the term “misogyny”…

“They send out the wrong message and are in fact encouraging abuse, sexism and misogyny,” she told the Echo.

Most never take the time to consider how it is exactly the opposite that drives a man to posses a woman. The utter love and passion that a woman can bring out in a man can drive him to change the world for her.

gregg
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gregg

@D-man “Why can’t women be urged to remember their naturally softer, yielding, and faithful nature? Why is that “oppression from the patriarchy”? You do not know anything about women, son. They are the main tool, nature has designed to keep perpetuation of humankind. The bait, the hook, the medium. Basically walking DNA. They are as ruthless as nature in their service of life. Their core is PURE animal. NO higher soul, no higher ideas, just one paradigm – s u r v i v e and r e p l i c a t e. Strong, ruthless, protean and adapting… Read more »

John5
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John5

Hey I just wrote this on Chateau’s blog. Thought it was relevant here as well. Do you have any thoughts on this? ____________ In keeping with the theme everything we ever knew was wrong… and is usually the opposite, I’ve recently been thinking about the importance of orgasms. I think I read on this blog how women are more likely to fake orgasms for more alpha or hotter guys. The mainstream picks up on this evidence that they don’t really love them etc. etc. But think about how women freak out when they can’t get you off, they start questioning… Read more »

John5
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John5

Forgot to add. So the willingness to fake an orgasm is a submissive act maybe just as powerful a display as a real one?

ProofNeeded
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ProofNeeded

This is off topic but I want to hear what people have to say: On the differences between female and male attraction could there be a sort of “Sexy Daughter” hypothesis that has women mating with beta males who are physically attractive though not socially or biologically dominant because of the benefits it would confer to her female offspring? Better to secure a cute provider if you’re an average looking woman so your daughters could take top rank in the harem of an alpha male. I think such a hypothesis could clear up the debate on male’s looks versus virility… Read more »

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Michael Maier
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John5: “Forgot to add. So the willingness to fake an orgasm is a submissive act maybe just as powerful a display as a real one?”

So this “Joke” isn’t ACTUALLY one at all?

“How do you tell if a woman orgasms?”
“Who the fuck cares?”

furiousferret
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furiousferret

@Gregg Don’t you think you’ve gone a little overboard on the whole women are evil incarinate? People in general are self-serving. It’s not just women. It’s mankind. Around the manosphere, people like to point out the flaws and the mindset of women because a lot of the guys have been fucked over in one way or another and want to figure out how to lessen that chance in the future. I believe that this is the right thing to do as well. We all found these sites usually because we had problems with dealing with women department. The only reason… Read more »

Joe Blow
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Joe Blow

It took me a while to digest this idea, I’ve never seen it articulated quite this way, but I figured out how it applies in my own marriage. For a lot time I tried hard to communicate a lot to my wife, and she was always nagging, huffing around, a perpetual air of disappointment on her face, saying she wanted more communication. She was a downer to be around. I evolved though and decided to stop talking to her – not giving her the silent treatment, still chatting and communicating about household stuff and telling her I love her –… Read more »

b-166er
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b-166er

gregg August 25th, 2012 at 1:51 am @D-man You do not know anything about women, son. They are the main tool, nature has designed to keep perpetuation of humankind. The bait, the hook, the medium. Basically walking DNA. They are as ruthless as nature in their service of life. Their core is PURE animal. NO higher soul, no higher ideas, just one paradigm – s u r v i v e and r e p l i c a t e. Strong, ruthless, protean and adapting to whatever is necessary to meet this. ———————————————————————————————- Greggs comment explains why integrity is… Read more »

furiousferret
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furiousferret

I can’t stand that attitude that gets thrown around about men’s sexuality vs. women’s sexuality. Men = Noble paragons of righteous action. Women = Treachous whores that will always fuck you over. Look BOTH sexes are evil and self-serving. If given the options I would say 80 percent of men would fuck every half attractive women if they could. That’s the kicker. Most guys can’t fuck mulitple amounts of women. That simply don’t have that option. Look at men with options in the media. It seems that every single famous male celebrity fucks around. Almost every athlete except closeted homosexual… Read more »

gregg
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gregg

furious ferret Both sexes are self serving??? Tell it to those countless men that have sacrified their lives for women that were not even their own – titanic. Men have protective instincts towards women and children. Women have protective instincts towards children. This is pure biology. Men would kill each other to protect women, much more – men would sacrifice their life to protect women. Not the other way around. Nature made it that way. This simple difference – when you give it a serious, deep thought, could tell you the truth. Your very existence is to provide, serve, protect… Read more »

King A (Matthew King)
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Christian Player, congratulations on your new site. The title by which you choose to identify yourself carries with it great responsibilities. Comport yourself accordingly. You have my best wishes and prayers. The convergence of faithful men of Christ and game technique is about to occur, and you have identified yourself with this tipping point. Gone are the stupid canards about incompatibility, those lingering prejudices of Game 1.0 that still seem to stir up ignorant atheists for a moment before they disappear back into their slough of despond. I especially like that your blog is set up to publish cleanly on… Read more »

Doc
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Doc

I learned a long time ago that women NEVER say what they mean, nor do they really understand themselves – they will look you in the eye and spout horse-sh*t when it comes to “what a woman wants” – what they should say is – “This is what I’ve been told I should want, but it’s boring so I’ll cheat on it:” before giving their list. Of course when a man asks that he wants to know “What gets your juices flowing?” – which is almost the exact opposite of what any woman will list. I never believed a word… Read more »

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D-Man
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D-Man

@gregg

Dad? Is that you?

LOL

I get your frequency… wasn’t expecting that amplitude

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http://tinyurl.com/ligeboyle29796
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I personally found this specific post , “Just Get It ”,
exceptionally compelling plus it was a fantastic read.
Thanks for your effort,Melanie

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chris
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chris

“She want’s you to ‘get it’ on your own, without having to be told how. That initiative and the experience needed to have had developed it makes you a Man worth competing for. Women despise a man who needs to be told to be dominant. Overtly relating this to a guy entirely defeats his credibility as a genuinely dominant male. The guy she wants to fuck is dominant because that’s ‘the way he is’ instead of who she had to tell him to be.” Funnily enough that’s the way I feel about sluts and girls putting out to easily. If… Read more »

Judge nismo
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Judge nismo

Women do the choosing. Game, personality, etc. is nothing more than influence.

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Eric
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Eric

Reminds me of a girl I dated in my late teens who kept asking me, ‘What are you thinking?’ during intimate moments. I would give her circumspect or flippant responses. I was instinctively cautious until I eventually concluded she wanted me to let down my guard so she and I could be closer. I figured, for us to move ahead, I needed to trust her. I was young, in love, and of course, didn’t know about shit tests and hypergamy. So I finally told her what I was thinking. In shockingly rapid order, that was the beginning of the end.… Read more »

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