The Creep – Part 3

One of the parts of our evolved, human mental firmware is a need to see order in the chaotic. Pattern recognition in humans seems likely to have been a selected-for trait that aided in our survival in the past. Thus, we look for consistencies that help us predict what will likely come to be or to help us plan for eventualities. As such we had a need to categorize things in our environments as well as in other people (members of our tribe vs. the members of a competing tribe for instance). Naturally, we apply this need for familiarity and recognition to other people which is how stereotypes emerged. I feel the term ‘creep’ is one such categorization, but this is really a proxy term for a type of person that conveys a certain feeling we get from them.

There is an instinctual, animal-level recognition we get from other people’s behavior, looks, smells, subcoms, voice intonations, etc. Pattern recognition has been a survival adaptation in human being’s for sometime because it saved our conscious mind from having to perform rote memorization of each of these aspects and forming a definite identity for each and every individual we meet. It saves our brains from having to consciously process large amounts of data without being overwhelmed.

From People are People:

Human beings have an amazing capacity to multi-task, but a real trained focus on multiple sources of stimuli was problematic for us in our evolutionary past. Too much constant stimuli leads to sensory overload and a breakdown in functionality, which then proves fatal if we’re distracted from reacting to a lethal threat. Thus, we evolved psychological mechanisms to push less (though still) important information to the peripheries of our conscious awareness, to afford us a mental acuity on information of more importance.

One of my personal, foundational theories about psychology is that people are intimately aware of their own conditions.

This is a good starting point in clarifying why we feel a need to typify others. Humans are creatures of habit with an insatiable need to see familiarity in other people’s actions. So when that predictable behavior changes even marginally, our instinctual perceptions fire off all kinds of warnings. I’m starting off with this today because the last part of the creep story is about men setting off this trigger in women.

I’ve written on several occasions about how women constantly complain about how the stereotypical ‘Nice’ guy can turn into a ‘creep’ when it turns out that all the guy was being nice for was part of his Beta Game of identifying with her in order to get to intimacy. There’s a lot going on in a situation like this, but fundamentally it represents a situation where a woman’s Hypergamous filters are fooled (or not) by a guy misrepresenting himself as one asset to her Hypergamous understanding of him and then his revealing and confirming for her that he expects her to believe he’s something else.

I’ve also written before that nothing is more flattering for a woman to believe that she’s figured out a man by using her mythological feminine intuition. However, there is a flip side to this ego-compliment to women, and that’s when her ‘intuitive’ assessment of a man’s SMV status compared to her (self-perceived) own proves to be false. Nothing is more offensive to a woman than for her to have made an assessment of a guy based on her mythical intuition and then to have it prove inaccurate.

The reason this is so offensive is because women’s Hypergamous optimization with any man is largely dependent on her intuition. Hypergamy and women’s long -term breeding strategy depends on assessing men’s SMV and their utility to her accurately. This is often compounded by women being sold on the infallibility of their feminine intuition – courtesy of a feminine-primary social order – and grossly exaggerated self-perceptions of their own SMV, and the caliber of men they ‘know’ they must deserve. But as with most things human there is also a learned / trained aspect of pattern recognition. Much of this learned side for women is often distorted by our female-important society.

Hypergamy cannot afford to incorrectly assess a man’s status and value. There is only a finite window of optimization while a woman is in her peak desirability in life. So it should come as little surprise that if a man misrepresents himself as something other than what he is – either deliberately or by misunderstanding – women feel an offense on the limbic level. It’s an offense that confirms she’s wasted her very precious time with a Hypergamous dead end. And, needless to say, Game is a form of deliberately tricking a woman’s Hypergamous filtering – at least in the PUA sense, if not an authentic sense – thus, Game is so vehemently disparaged in women and their identifying sympathizers.

When a woman typifies a guy as a creep what she’s responding to is the fallibility of her intuition, but also his efforts to misrepresent himself as something he’s not to her filtering mechanism. I should also add here that concepts like preselection and social proof are extensions of this filtering process. Only in this case it’s women’s collective, social filtering that’s aiding in an individual woman’s selection and optimization process. As such, that collective of women (the Sisterhood Über Alles) needs a type of man to be the representative of the ‘deceiver of Hypergamy’ – enter the Creep.

I’m actually kind of glad I held out for three posts in this series; it allowed for that many more sexual misconduct allegations to come forward in what’s being called a masculine moral panic today. And as I predicted in Male Control, the feminine social narrative has shifted from a type of masculinity being “toxic” to masculinity itself is toxic.

THE FACT IS, IT’S YOU. IT’S MEN. THE SOCIAL ILL THAT WE CAN’T QUITE PUT OUR FINGER ON IS MEN.

This is a quote from a recent article in Esquire. Yes, Esquire, a magazine that used to be an exclusive male space dedicated to men’s higher aspirations and betterment is now a vehicle for this new narrative of male shaming, and gender loathing. That’s to be expected these days – GQ is a similar platform for the Feminine Imperative’s messaging – but what I found interesting in this article was some of the examples of ‘creepiness’ women believe is rampant in American workplace culture. I had thought that with the rise of HR departments’ directives to police male behavior (at the risk of future unemployability) the issues she mentions would be something men would fear – I guess not.

A coworker knew I had a date the night before, so he asked me how it went. He said, “So, did he get lucky?”

Don’t ask about her romantic life. Don’t refer to her sex life. Don’t ask about the quality of the sex she’s having. Don’t comment that she seems like she needs to get laid. Don’t tell her to lock down a guy before she gets too old and decrepit. Don’t reassure her that with tits like hers, she’ll find a guy some day. Don’t relay details of your own marriage and past in order to comment on hers. Don’t make knowing eyes when she mentions she’s going on date number three. Don’t tell her how to behave on a date. Don’t tell her what guys like on a date. Don’t tell her to wear a low-cut shirt on a date. Don’t make any reference to getting lucky, like, ever.

What guy does any of this? How does he know when a female coworker had a date to begin with? There’s a lot that goes along with how a woman comes to a list of Don’ts, but I think this list represents a good illustration of the creep dynamic. The primary concern she has in all of these Don’ts can all be distilled down to a guy beneath her Hypergamous attraction floor presuming a familiar intimacy with her. I find it very hard to believe any of these Don’ts would be actual occurrences, but I’m looking at them through a Red Pill Lens – yes, it’s entirely likely that Blue Pill creeps would in fact resort to some of these comments.

Essentially the entire article is an effort in berating the Beta men women really want nothing to do with.

YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF SAYING OR DOING A WRONG THING AND HAVING IT BE INTERPRETED IN EXACTLY THE WAY YOU MEANT IT.

Women want lesser men to be afraid to approach, compliment and engage with them, but the message is wrapped in generalities to imply all men do these things. This message has the potential to throw the Alphas out with the bathwater, so I would predict there’ll be a few related articles that will of course shame men for not ‘manning up’ and approaching women like a “real man” should.

Dangerous Times

All that said, I can easily imagine Beta men, confused about sexual zoning, engaging in exactly the behaviors described here. It is a very dangerous time to be a Blue Pill Beta today. In fact, I’d argue it’s never been more potentially hazardous for guy ignorant of Game and the nature of intersexual dynamics. I find it very ironic that the men who actually understand the potential for some real life-damaging accusations in the workplace or any other off-limits social context, who take the open door, have-a-witness, policy for working with women are being shamed for it by women. This is the environment they created, but they created it in response to a want for absolute control of their Hypergamous choices.

A “creep” can pretty much be anyone a woman (or women) want that guy to be – even guys who were previously attractive with whom they had consensual sex with. That Alpha they didn’t mind oversharing their sex life information with can be the “creep” if he decides to break things off with her. Again, this comes back to unfettered control of women’s Hypergamous choices as well as absolving them of any regrets they may have had that resulted from them.

Edelweiss had an excellent comment in last week’s thread:

From my perspective, the guys most often labeled a “creep” are those with poor social awareness and/or men who those women see as offering no real value to them.

Now in my mid 40’s, I can see things that would never have registered for a 20yr old version of me. I often think “how did I miss this before?”. My focus now is almost entirely on body language. A woman can consistently lie with what she says, but she (anyone really) can’t consistently lie with their body language. Any guy not well versed in reading the various signs of interest, or a lack of, needs to spend some time studying the basics. It seems simple now.

One of the major mistakes I see guys make, is escalating too quickly. Touching, and sexualizing around a woman who isn’t into you, or is unsure of your value, is a great way to be labeled a creep. How many times have you seen a guy double down on an approach that isn’t working, and consequently become known as a “creeper”? A good number of men get into “pursuit” mode, and completely fuck up their chances by being overzealous.

I’ve got to repeat this, it’s never been a more dangerous time for men unaware of Red Pill intersexual dynamics and even basic Game principles. Blue Pill Beta men have been conditioned and acculturated to default to a Beta Game that is the perfect storm for so volatile a time. These guys literally have no idea that what their interacting with women is doing is setting them up for. Simple compliments and treating women with a default respect is becoming a liability for men with poor social awareness, but this is exactly the type of men our social order has developed for the past 4 generations. These Beta ‘creeps’ who should just know better than to try to approach the ‘average’ woman are the result of decades of raising and acculturating boys to hate their masculine nature and confuse their good intentions with some form of Game women might appreciate.

Pook once had a great quote back on the SoSuave Forum. He said,

How do I judge a woman’s character? I see how she treats people who can do nothing for her.
This test has never failed me.

At this point in time I think we are seeing how women treat the men who can do nothing for them.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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@Blaximus I can’t even wrap my head around what I just typed as even remotely seeming reasonable. it’s not ‘reasonable’, but it’s not unexpected… just extrapolate Rollo’s FI analysis to its logical conclusion (barring any sufficient ‘pushback’ from the MI… which most likely won’t happen in time to avert any particular ‘step’ in the downward spiral…including the actual collapse…) getting from where we were (prosperous, wealthy society… with some problems…) to complete system failure/collapse/anarchy doesn’t just happen overnight… (well, when it kicks off, it will SEEM like it was overnight…lol)… there are plenty of steps to process through, one of… Read more »

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@ Sentient Lol, I am not ever going beta. I’m confident even chicks from a few decades ago don’t have any issues, even Tara gave a few repeats bj’s after her initial complaint. I warned her pre nut bust, she finished like the champ she was. But full disclosure: I’m much much more aware since this feeding frenzy has commenced. My job has dozens and dozens of cameras inside and outside. I used to pretty much ignore them, but I’ve become more aware. It has caused me to be more conscious of what I’m doing and saying, as everything is… Read more »

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overall, this is just part of the natural process of weeding out ‘unfit’ genetics…

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http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/hollywood-sexual-harassment-abuse-john-lasseter-matt-lauer-1201901083/

“getting from where we were (prosperous, wealthy society… with some problems…) to complete system failure/collapse/anarchy doesn’t just happen overnight… (well, when it kicks off, it will SEEM like it was overnight…lol)… there are plenty of steps to process through, one of which is what you typed… a ‘reckoning’ is just the FI’s accumulated disgust with the “male feminists’ ” lack of alpha traits… (i think we might safely move up the expected timeline on those ‘alpha stud farms’…lol)”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkd3RBfPTQI

https://www.biography.com/video/elmore-leonard-full-episode-2073090879

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Lmao.

No lamentations of their women allowed.

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@ HABD

You’re right all the way. My silly appeals to reason are a character flaw imbedded in me from spending way too much of my formative years in the company of men.

Rome has always been interesting concerning the reasons and timeframe of it’s collapse. You’d think that with examples of what not to do, subsequent empires could easily avoid bullshit pitfalls.

But nah

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@Blaximus

Rome has always been interesting concerning the reasons and timeframe of it’s collapse. You’d think that with examples of what not to do, subsequent empires could easily avoid bullshit pitfalls.

But nah

the FI is cunning and pervasive…

good luck!

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Aaaaaannd another one bites the dust — Garrison Keillor. A talented radio presence but pretty creepy in other respects

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“Creepy” Travis Bickle…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdWeU9N0Jb0

Betsy doesn’t quite know what to make of Travis. She is
curious, intrigued, tantalized. Like a moth, she draws
closer to the flame.

http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/taxidriver.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ve57l3c19g

Travis: “I felt when I walked in , that there was something between us, there was an impulse that we were both following…so that gave me the right to come in and talk to you…

[…]

Did you feel that way?”

Betsy:”I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t.”

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“a ‘reckoning’ is just the FI’s accumulated disgust with the “male feminists’ ” lack of alpha traits…“

The FI convinced women with their self provisioning, they can have it all. Women underestimate their hardwiring and survey says: no, the provisioning/sensitive metrosexual creeps them, short and long term.

Women instinctually dodge responsibility and scapegoat the latest SMP disappointment on the sexually disqualified. Why not? The supplicating Betas never tire of abuse.

Collateral damage is inevitable. Maintaining a cultural fiction requires full participation.

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RE: Keillor

From MPR

“We encourage anyone with additional information to call our confidential hotline 1-877-767-7781.”

LMFAO. Confidential hotlines…

Next step

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Followed by self confession and incrimination…

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“We are interested in how a feminine reader is constructed rhetorically and how that meaning can be used to subvert dominant meaning about women” “We have long suspected gender plays key roles in Keillor’s monologues simply because of the line with which his monologues end, “And that’s the news from Lake Woebegone, where all the women are strong and all the men good looking.” “We realize the full extent to which he creates a preferred spectator position that relies on traditionally female competencies…” http://www.sonjafoss.com/html/Foss62.pdf These guys think they’re protected. Why now? The FI is eating it’s own children now. Is… Read more »

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“Women underestimate their hardwiring and survey says: no, the provisioning/sensitive metrosexual creeps them, short and long term.

Women instinctually dodge responsibility and scapegoat the latest SMP disappointment on the sexually disqualified. Why not? The supplicating Betas never tire of abuse.

Collateral damage is inevitable. Maintaining a cultural fiction requires full participation.”

Supplicating betas never tire of abuse…. Spot on… Spot on…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY9Aw_Uadho
Requiring participation…
NSFW trigger warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZhhA87d6g
If the scene was anymore…

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Honest question:

Have enough men already left the tradional role of “Alpha with a little provisioning” that there’s really no one else to blame but the men left willing to tolerate the FI crap long term?

What is left is what was predicted: Men in enough numbers have left the trad. SMP, women remain unable to adapt to the vacuum. They begin a low-grade cry of despair (Rape! Man up!) in a vain attempt to coerce but too late.

Cool time to be alive.

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Eh

It’s making them crazy…

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http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/28/woman-26-chops-of-boyfriends-penis-with-garden-shears-during-sex-game-7113883/

HABD’s Guard Dog spin up situation is going to get very messy, very soon!

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“Have enough men already left the tradional role of “Alpha with a little provisioning” that there’s really no one else to blame but the men left willing to tolerate the FI crap long term?”

I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha”. Most men have always been beta, with alphas being a minority. But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle.

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“Have enough men already left the tradional role of “Alpha with a little provisioning” that there’s really no one else to blame but the men left willing to tolerate the FI crap long term?

What is left is what was predicted: Men in enough numbers have left the trad. SMP, women remain unable to adapt to the vacuum. They begin a low-grade cry of despair (Rape! Man up!) in a vain attempt to coerce but too late.

Cool time to be alive.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp4YyIPGk70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtcEKbUifU

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NSFW

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“But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle.”

Kinda hard to prepare your daughter for life when you’re competing with her in the SMP…..

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Keep your head up move on don’t forget the past but forge your future in the present…
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/29/567241644/garrison-keillor-accused-of-inappropriate-behavior-minnesota-public-radio-says

“Kinda hard to prepare your daughter for life when you’re competing with her in the SMP…..’

http://www.imom.com/men-and-intimacy/

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EhIntellect The FI convinced women with their self provisioning, they can have it all. Women are their own Betas now unless they do not want to be. This is true for women under 50 and it’s almost universal for those under 30. That’s why Provider Game is dead. Women underestimate their hardwiring and survey says: no, the provisioning/sensitive metrosexual creeps them, short and long term. All it takes is a taste of Alpha. The preference cascade, the “oh, I had to put up with … you did too?” is part of the ongoing FI-lanche. There’s score settling for sure. Let’s… Read more »

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That remake is terrible enough to make me appreciate the other remake. Nah not really.

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CSI I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha”. Most men have always been beta, with alphas being a minority. But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle. This. This right here sums almost everything up. Couple this with all the Title IX / female-only scholarships / Affirmative Action / Human Resources coven and any woman of average intelligence can Be Her Own Beta – so she never needs to build a better one. She can be part… Read more »

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HABD’s Guard Dog spin up situation is going to get very messy, very soon!

Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn. That’s going to take some pondering.

Reminds me of the old “how to defend yourself against an atomic missile” joke:
“Don’t be there when it goes off”.

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“That’s why Provider Game is dead.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmBm-jT0VJY

“All it takes is a taste of Alpha.”

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“Kinda hard to prepare your daughter for life when you’re competing with her in the SMP…..” that competition is amazing to witness. I would have bet a lot of smokes that these high profile guys getting taken down for sex stuff would have been mother-daughter fucking or something similarly cool. mother-daughter-grandma maybe. but no. not even close. these late 30s-mid 40s timebomb moms go off just as they are leaving the marketplace and their daughters at 12-15 are in the fastest part of the current… they fuck these teen girls up big time when they blow up the family. the… Read more »

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My daughter wants me to treat her like a princess…so I married her off to a man she didn’t know in order to secure a French alliance.

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What on earth is a Guard Dog spinup?

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“Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn.”

If Feminism is really just a meta- multi gen shit test… and there is never enough push back on the FI, it seems it has to end this way. Else women will be satisfied with no alpha.

The recent “browning” of Europe and attraction of Sharia is another sign… when those doods then go ghey… Guard your dick.

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“What on earth is a Guard Dog spinup?” See HABD’s explanation: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-59/#comment-224489 how do you train a guard dog?… you push it a little, and when it ‘fights back’ (pushes back against your frame) you let it ‘win’… next time you push it a little harder, and when it fights back, you resist a little bit, but then you let it win… rinse and repeat until you can break baseball bat over its head and it will still rip your arm off… same thing with girls…lol… you push against her frame, but when she pushes back (with her rolodex of… Read more »

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Thanks Sentient.

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Mothers & Daughters

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/02/23/30D39FEB00000578-3429038-image-m-36_1454456583219.jpg

See a lot of this in some areas…

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CSI answers the question, perhaps without even noticing it. Consent, in progressive/feminist theory is code for . . . Power.

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“I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha” Not to be contrarian…but I see it differently. The FI is a recent development in human existence. Hypergamy is eternal, but the FI anabolizes it beyond logic, the wellbeing of women even. 50 yrs of feminism is a period of time too small to register a lasting impression on human nature, too grand to conceptualize to act upon so we exaggerate our intellectual and start making cultural changes on fly for short term benefit. Tradition once served the role of providing comforting guidelines obviating the need… Read more »

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Human existence too grand to conceptualize to act upon so we exaggerate our intellectual….

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Re: penis chopping

“They were in the middle of things. He wasn’t asleep. They began with a sexual game in which he was blindfolded.”

Take note. He assumed the submissive.

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Eh

Penis chopping is an ultimate contempt move.

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“Not to be contrarian…but I see it differently. The FI is a recent development in human existence.”

No, no, no. The FI is the ground of female reproductive strategy. It has existed as long as sexual reproduction. Our proto-lemur grandmothers were fully imbued with the FI. It is not feminism (which is merely a tactic of the FI), it is the feminine itself.

Get a handle on this, or get a handle on nothing.

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kfg going deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

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@Eh intellect That story you told about that weird chick is creepy af. @NotBornThisMorning In response to your earlier comment, that was a vicious breakdown of how women will use a Mr. Nice Guy. Brutal, but you hit the nail on the head: they will use a sissy until there’s nothing left of him, but I think this response is innate: if a man is presenting himself to her as an object who lives for nothing other than her then she may as well use him like a tool until he’s no longer useful. And when you look like at… Read more »

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Now NPR’s top news editor is forced out. I have no sympathy for anyone at NPR but get a load of the three co-workers’ allegations:
1) “Unexpectedly kissing” Woman 1 in a car (back in 2002)
2) Leaning in to kiss Woman 2 as they were having drinks at a bar (2007)
3) Giving Woman 3 “unwanted attention” and “unsolicited gifts” that made her feel “deeply uncomfortable.”

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@fleezer

Preach. Whenever I’m in a shopping centre I’ll see mums – who are past it – shopping with their 15yo daughters and wearing damn near the same outfit as their kid. That period, 11 – 18, is probably when a girl needs a stable female figure, not someone who’s blowing up the house and trying to recapture the past and enter the same market their daughter’s in.

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“Giving Woman 3 “unwanted attention” and “unsolicited gifts” that made her feel “deeply uncomfortable.””

Literally rapist Hitler.

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If getting back to the article is possible, it seems we’re headed for more and more beta men being frightened into this:comment image

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@AR Sentient Sentient HABD’s Guard Dog spin up situation is going to get very messy, very soon! Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn. That’s going to take some pondering. thaaat’s what’s been bugging me about the Roy Moore situ… i couldn’t quite figure it out, but THAT was it… since the FI is the aggregated decisions (per hypergamy) of all girls, it makes sense that the FI would have the aggregated rolodexes of all girls available to use for it’s shit testing purposes… at the same time… against the same man… and what happens when you slam that shit test… Read more »

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O.B.I.T.
I have no sympathy for anyone at NPR but get a load of the three co-workers’ allegations:

He’s guilty of being a thirsty, whining, pleading Beta while impersonating Alpha.
Getting off easy just losing his job. No pruning shears involved.

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A quick check on the Google does reveal a highly beta appearance

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…. But looking and acting thirsty/whining/pleading is not necessarily a firing offense

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at kfg
so strict
fine
replace Fi with feminism.

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…. But looking and acting thirsty/whining/pleading is was not necessarily a firing offense

Fixed that for you. Don’t live in the past.

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@AR

That’s why Provider Game is dead.

Watching this all around me right now. Provider Game young men completely sidelined as the 20 something women have their own (no dirt, no danger) jobs, money, cars, even their own houses already!

@O.B.I.T.

…made her feel “deeply uncomfortable.”

In retrospect?

…. But looking and acting thirsty/whining/pleading is not necessarily a firing offense

That was five minutes ago. Things apparently have changed.

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hABD

“sooo, the FI NEEDS to make Roy Moore ‘fail’… by apologizing, confessing, etc… ”

Well consider they tried this with Trump and failed, and look to fail with Moore… As each like it or not are Alpha… Sooooo they are going cunts out on the greater betas like Lauer etc. Since they can’t by definition tag an Alpha.

Nicholson is napping soundly.

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Imagine Matt Lauer’s world and his mindset, the mindset of his wife and the mindset of those in the industry that know Matt Lauer. What’s he been doing with his life? What is his purpose and mission? What does he want to accomplish in life. Besides creeping on women at away assignments like the Olypics with woman that harbor a grudge. He seems to have been on a mission to be good at his craft and be one of the highest paid newscasters (or whatever it is that he does. I’m not sure. I don’t watch that shit). His marriage… Read more »

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“Be amoral in your assessments, Be ethical In your actions.” –forgot to attribute that to a Rollo Tweet back in September.

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@OBIT
re: workplace firing.

IMO you’re right and wrong to a degree.

Right: HR practices are imbalanced, unethical. Busuness practices of underclass exploitation, excluding native workers, rent seeking visa lobbying. Shameful.

Wrong: No one is entitled to a job. After being recently fired, that attitude personally paid off in spades as I stopped working for the boss but for myself. It’s a mindset liberation thing.

SJF says it well:

What’s he been doing with his life? What is his purpose and mission?

Nice taking to you.

What’s he been doing with his life? What is his purpose and mission?

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Bombards Body language is great entertainment. I mentioned before the Krauser had mentioned the entertainment value of watching her Youtube videos. Here she analyzes reaction to news anchors and their reaction to Matt Lauer news: One of the comments: “Chris Cuomo looks guilty as sin and scared shitless.” https://youtu.be/EYOPeyF4EFg “This is the moment we’ve been waiting for. When you start to see the news anchors get scared. “Ohh, they took out Matt Lauer!” The irony. It’s like the left called 911. But their 911 goes to 1944’s Hitler’s Germany. What do we do? It’s An Emergency! And another of the… Read more »

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@KFG No, no, no. The FI is the ground of female reproductive strategy. It has existed as long as sexual reproduction. Our proto-lemur grandmothers were fully imbued with the FI. It is not feminism (which is merely a tactic of the FI), it is the feminine itself. Get a handle on this, or get a handle on nothing. You mean it’s and automatic algorithm? Oh Noes. What if the Masculine Imperative algorithms get petrified? What if new algorithms take over? In his latest book Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow, Harari offers his vision of how our future may… Read more »

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Conservative bent?

Omg.

Pro tip: let that shit go already. It’s not longer exists. No more fairy tales for men.

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Lol, and that chick is a moron. Beware the sisterhood.

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AR/Lost Patrol Sadly you are right, at this point anything is a firing offense. I’m trying to recall if there was a time when adults dealt with these things person to person, without lawyers and HR in tow. And of course I doubt that this female NPR employee would have felt so “deeply uncomfortable” if the guy sending those gifts resembled Warren Beatty or Robert Redford — two studs who famously portrayed reporters and believe me you do not see much of that breed in any newsroom I’ve been in. And thumbs up to Bombard and to Mark Simone —… Read more »

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Watch more of her stuff going forward Blaximus. She thinks like a man. even if she’s selling her wares (which is most simply body language and facial expression interpretation. Some of us can benefit by reading body language. She’s interpreting sub-coms. You are jumping to conclusions on extemporaneous snippets of first seeing her. She has good comments on current events. I’m sure myself and Krauser like her for her judmentalism, as we are both in the INTfuckingJ mode most of the time. (Bottoms up. Who cares about the political noise? People without agency, that’s who. So don’t diss me for… Read more »

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Bombard did some hilarious stuff last year shredding up that dippy young Obama State Department woman who accidentally blabbed about some surveillance documents she wasn’t supposed to be anywhere near — and then went on every show to lie about it.

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The algorithm at work;

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@ sjf Lol. I wasn’t shitting on you brother. I’d never shit on you. I’m just saying, the talk about ” left ” vs ” right ” vs ” conservative ” vs ” liberal ” vs ” Marxism ” vs ” Godzilla ” vs ” King Kong “…. It’s not as important because everything has morphed into something that it wasn’t originally. We keep applying outdated definitions to stuff as we keep trying to choose up ” sides ” like we’re playing some kind of sport. All of it is man-made. All of it is corrupted. 75% of it is… Read more »

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Properly speaking there hasn’t been a right in the US since we ran the last Torie off to Canada, circa 1778.

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You would think that you wouldn’t waste your time on a PoPT guy like Tony Robbins. You might miss out on something. You might have Rollo be skeptical. Because. What if you had an hour and 26 minutes to waste on something by him that is evo-psych. Heh there is bluetooth earbuds, commutes and times away from your woman when you can spend some time on it. The girl in the following video gives like zero authenticity. She is duplicitous and non authentic. Half the girls fault half the guys fault. Neither being all in in terms of MRP Game.… Read more »

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If infidelity is the new litmus test for relationships the worker bees are fucked.

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Yollo

Infidelity? Nah.

This though

Matt Lauer – “Matt took the news well once he realized he was in a corner. He was very apologetic.””

https://pagesix.com/2017/11/29/matt-lauer-accused-of-sexting-nbc-intern-and-staffers/

Apology is admission, confession. Prima facie evidence of beta.

Not “locker room tawk”…

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@Blaximus I watch politics to see what’s actually going on vs what each side likes to say is going on. I don’t choose sides because that’s a losing strategy. Like choosing which kind of poisonous snake you’d like to be bitten by. It’s all bullshit now. The good news is that it’s becoming more obvious. Older members of my family, they have very spirited discussions about ” conservatism vs liberalism “, because in their eyes, nothing has changed and one side is ” right ” and the other is ” wrong “. That’s all in the past now. I Know.… Read more »

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“I’ve seen pics of my male lineage back to the 1880’s. All the women were raw feminine, the men serious, jack of all trades, never smiling. Life was hard and Alpha was necessarily accepted for survival. Christ, even wedding pictures were only muted satisfaction. This is not unusual.” Well those old timey photos were expensive and had a long exposure, which required careful posing. But I’m sure men were physically fitter, more self reliant, more stoic then. But by the definition of this site and similar ones, most men would still have been “beta”. I’m sure that at any time… Read more »

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Blax says that Marxism and the Left have changed. Lessee… “From each according to his ability…to each according to his need.” Sound familiar? Standard Old Fashioned Marxism. How does this play out today? From each man according to his ability…to each woman according to her need. Feminist Marxism…same ol’ same ol’ You can even google “feminist Marxism” and get tons of hits. While the tactics may change–unions are no longer a major player in leftist political tactics–the core marxist philosophy hasn’t changed any… …Marxism is still anti-religion …anti-family …anti-capitalist …pro-redistribution of wealth …against U.S. greatness especially through its economic and… Read more »

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Here’s how I break down conservatives, liberals, and RINOs

1. a conservative will take one dollar

2. a liberal will take three dollars and give you back one

3. a RINO will take three dollars

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Interesting series. Damn. From the OP: “I’ve got to repeat this, it’s never been a more dangerous time for men unaware of Red Pill intersexual dynamics and even basic Game principles. Blue Pill Beta men have been conditioned and acculturated to default to a Beta Game that is the perfect storm for so volatile a time. These guys literally have no idea that what their interacting with women is doing is setting them up for. Simple compliments and treating women with a default respect is becoming a liability for men with poor social awareness, but this is exactly the type… Read more »

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And here is a recent Guardian OpEd live illustration of the OP’s definition of Creep and a woman’s mystical intuition. What’s more, it even involves a bastardized and hijacked fundamental tenet of PUA alpha instruction to “take up space. Sit with your legs wide apart … from a #metoo fueld woman: “It is something that I’ve been doing for years. After spending my childhood and teenage years being told to “sit properly, for God’s sake”, I decided to rebel by reclining in as unladylike a manner as possible. Ever since I left home, I’ve been sitting how I want to:… Read more »

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Blaximus
Godzilla ” vs ” King Kong

Look! Coming out of the ocean! It’s GodzirraKong! Or is it KingZilla?

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And here it is… http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/30/media/matt-lauer-full-statement/index.html?iid=EL “There are no words to express my sorrow and regret for the pain I have caused others by words and actions. To the people I have hurt, I am truly sorry. As I am writing this I realize the depth of the damage and disappointment I have left behind at home and at NBC. “Some of what is being said about me is untrue or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth in these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed. I regret that my shame is now shared by the people I cherish dearly.… Read more »

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http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_05h0lujn

Cohen: “What is Matt’s most annoying habit.”
Couric: “he pinches me on the ass a lot?”

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http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_ldcxydvp

Lauer: “Pretty sweater. keep bending over like that, it’s a nice view.”

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The laughable visual take on Lauer in my paper this morning is of the two FEMALE anchors crying and hugging each other. Probably crocodile tears but either way that’s the FI-corrupted news biz for you now. For men, meanwhile, almost any display of emotion in almost any context is riskier than ever — it can be flagged as either “creepy” or “toxic,” or both, and that net is widening. Emotional distancing is the way to go, if you can manage it so it doesn’t come off as mere social awkwardness. Easier to do when you work for yourself or at… Read more »

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Just found this latest interview with pua Guru Ross Jeffries.

I found him…creepy. There was something unsettling about how he constantly kept the host on edge making the host second-guess his own judgements and responses…

Discuss:

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Is YaReally still kicking around? Online game is evolving too quickly, need some new material/strategy, core game principles still remain though. Quick break down:

1. DM (Direct Message) using Instagram, build pre-profile follow recon (A1-A2).
2. Pull to SnapChat, use video chat to build comfort/rapport (A3-C2).
3. Move to Whatsapp, use push/pull and increase C2, introduce C3.
4. Setup a date, use Kino and go into C3-S3.

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It seems to me that the biggest hurdle for pua/coaches/students is how to change the mindset sufficiently enough so that one no longer comes off as a little too artificial. Dude in the video is a pickup coach? Man, I’ve missed a great opportunity to make money by not having been aware of pua for so many decades. Lol. RJ seems like an interesting enough guy, and probably fun to hang out with…..for men. And he’s probably attracted a great amount of female attention because I submit that there are always women in the world who will find your particular… Read more »

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@Blax

The secret is the cinnamon and sugar swirls in every bite.

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” I’ve known guys similar to how RJ presents himself in the video. And every one of them got laid at will.

But can you successfully teach others to emulate in some fashion, a quirkier mindset? Can you really teach guys that aren’t particularly interested in a different manner of communication to become Verbal Kent?”

For profit PUA is about what?

Profit

“Teaching” is secondary.

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@ Ajax Long time. Good to see you commenting. @ Yollo Lol. Re: ” secrets “- I’ve always had problems when people tell me that they can clue me in on ” the secrets ” concerning practically anything. There are zero secrets concerning women or making money in real estate. There’s only the things you do not know and aren’t aware of. Much different than a ” secret “. I had an aunt by marriage, who’s sister I banged into a comatose state. Me=16 at the time, her =24. That was a secret ( although my uncle was aware somehow… Read more »

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@ Sentient

Yeah, the whole profit thing is what sticks in my throat because it obscures everything about pua. This is why we don’t really know what can actually be ‘ taught ‘ . it’s not about the teaching primarily, as you point out.

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@ CSI

I’ve read that definition before, and as defined, you’d be right.

We’re here for different reasons.

The benefit of TRM is a online brotherhood, for our personal RP to be actualized.

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I’m telling you Blax. Soon as you get home and she sees that box on your fridge she’ll know.

“I’m having breakfast with this man.”

It’s the taste you can see.

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Seriously though, the biggest thing Ross has going for him is his composure. It allows him to recover fast, because when you don’t cringe at yourself practically nothing is a mistake. It’s a “quirk”.

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PUAs teaching for profit is that yucky capitalism thing. Ugh!

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@walawala: Jefferies is a hypnotist if I recall. The question / response is a method of gaining compliance as a step in persuasion. The man was clear in the video clip he’d given a lesson rather than a presentation; I’d say the lesson continued rather than an interview.

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PUAs teaching for profit is that yucky capitalism thing. Ugh!

What is teaching the unteachable? Fleecing.

Fleecing for profit. Also capitalism.

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Well they gotta keep that bipartisan voter base repopulating somehow. RSD is a small wedge of a much bigger sexual zoning project.

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ASD As an avowed artist, I can tell you that sometimes, the profit motive can nullify the ” artistry ” as time becomes money. I’m not anti profit nor anti ” capitalism ” ( using the classic definition, not vampire-suck-everything-dry-fuck-the-world versions that it’s morphing into ). Profit is good and right. Buyer beware. Lol. I can ” teach ” you to play guitar. I can’t teach you to be an artist in play. You couldn’t afford it because it will take as long as it takes. Subtlety and nuance are difficult to teach as they are dependent on the student.… Read more »

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A true teacher, being paid to sit with a student and listen to him practice the same basics he has been instructed on – and clearly the kid hasn’t done anything since the last lesson – tells the payor to stop the lessons until the kid starts getting the basics down via practice. He does not upsell a more “immersive” experience. A shit teacher listens to the kid, shows a few more pointers, and signs him up for next week.

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@ Sentient

Yes. Absolutely.

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Ok that’s more than fair.

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