The Creep – Part 3

One of the parts of our evolved, human mental firmware is a need to see order in the chaotic. Pattern recognition in humans seems likely to have been a selected-for trait that aided in our survival in the past. Thus, we look for consistencies that help us predict what will likely come to be or to help us plan for eventualities. As such we had a need to categorize things in our environments as well as in other people (members of our tribe vs. the members of a competing tribe for instance). Naturally, we apply this need for familiarity and recognition to other people which is how stereotypes emerged. I feel the term ‘creep’ is one such categorization, but this is really a proxy term for a type of person that conveys a certain feeling we get from them.

There is an instinctual, animal-level recognition we get from other people’s behavior, looks, smells, subcoms, voice intonations, etc. Pattern recognition has been a survival adaptation in human being’s for sometime because it saved our conscious mind from having to perform rote memorization of each of these aspects and forming a definite identity for each and every individual we meet. It saves our brains from having to consciously process large amounts of data without being overwhelmed.

From People are People:

Human beings have an amazing capacity to multi-task, but a real trained focus on multiple sources of stimuli was problematic for us in our evolutionary past. Too much constant stimuli leads to sensory overload and a breakdown in functionality, which then proves fatal if we’re distracted from reacting to a lethal threat. Thus, we evolved psychological mechanisms to push less (though still) important information to the peripheries of our conscious awareness, to afford us a mental acuity on information of more importance.

One of my personal, foundational theories about psychology is that people are intimately aware of their own conditions.

This is a good starting point in clarifying why we feel a need to typify others. Humans are creatures of habit with an insatiable need to see familiarity in other people’s actions. So when that predictable behavior changes even marginally, our instinctual perceptions fire off all kinds of warnings. I’m starting off with this today because the last part of the creep story is about men setting off this trigger in women.

I’ve written on several occasions about how women constantly complain about how the stereotypical ‘Nice’ guy can turn into a ‘creep’ when it turns out that all the guy was being nice for was part of his Beta Game of identifying with her in order to get to intimacy. There’s a lot going on in a situation like this, but fundamentally it represents a situation where a woman’s Hypergamous filters are fooled (or not) by a guy misrepresenting himself as one asset to her Hypergamous understanding of him and then his revealing and confirming for her that he expects her to believe he’s something else.

I’ve also written before that nothing is more flattering for a woman to believe that she’s figured out a man by using her mythological feminine intuition. However, there is a flip side to this ego-compliment to women, and that’s when her ‘intuitive’ assessment of a man’s SMV status compared to her (self-perceived) own proves to be false. Nothing is more offensive to a woman than for her to have made an assessment of a guy based on her mythical intuition and then to have it prove inaccurate.

The reason this is so offensive is because women’s Hypergamous optimization with any man is largely dependent on her intuition. Hypergamy and women’s long -term breeding strategy depends on assessing men’s SMV and their utility to her accurately. This is often compounded by women being sold on the infallibility of their feminine intuition – courtesy of a feminine-primary social order – and grossly exaggerated self-perceptions of their own SMV, and the caliber of men they ‘know’ they must deserve. But as with most things human there is also a learned / trained aspect of pattern recognition. Much of this learned side for women is often distorted by our female-important society.

Hypergamy cannot afford to incorrectly assess a man’s status and value. There is only a finite window of optimization while a woman is in her peak desirability in life. So it should come as little surprise that if a man misrepresents himself as something other than what he is – either deliberately or by misunderstanding – women feel an offense on the limbic level. It’s an offense that confirms she’s wasted her very precious time with a Hypergamous dead end. And, needless to say, Game is a form of deliberately tricking a woman’s Hypergamous filtering – at least in the PUA sense, if not an authentic sense – thus, Game is so vehemently disparaged in women and their identifying sympathizers.

When a woman typifies a guy as a creep what she’s responding to is the fallibility of her intuition, but also his efforts to misrepresent himself as something he’s not to her filtering mechanism. I should also add here that concepts like preselection and social proof are extensions of this filtering process. Only in this case it’s women’s collective, social filtering that’s aiding in an individual woman’s selection and optimization process. As such, that collective of women (the Sisterhood Über Alles) needs a type of man to be the representative of the ‘deceiver of Hypergamy’ – enter the Creep.

I’m actually kind of glad I held out for three posts in this series; it allowed for that many more sexual misconduct allegations to come forward in what’s being called a masculine moral panic today. And as I predicted in Male Control, the feminine social narrative has shifted from a type of masculinity being “toxic” to masculinity itself is toxic.

THE FACT IS, IT’S YOU. IT’S MEN. THE SOCIAL ILL THAT WE CAN’T QUITE PUT OUR FINGER ON IS MEN.

This is a quote from a recent article in Esquire. Yes, Esquire, a magazine that used to be an exclusive male space dedicated to men’s higher aspirations and betterment is now a vehicle for this new narrative of male shaming, and gender loathing. That’s to be expected these days – GQ is a similar platform for the Feminine Imperative’s messaging – but what I found interesting in this article was some of the examples of ‘creepiness’ women believe is rampant in American workplace culture. I had thought that with the rise of HR departments’ directives to police male behavior (at the risk of future unemployability) the issues she mentions would be something men would fear – I guess not.

A coworker knew I had a date the night before, so he asked me how it went. He said, “So, did he get lucky?”

Don’t ask about her romantic life. Don’t refer to her sex life. Don’t ask about the quality of the sex she’s having. Don’t comment that she seems like she needs to get laid. Don’t tell her to lock down a guy before she gets too old and decrepit. Don’t reassure her that with tits like hers, she’ll find a guy some day. Don’t relay details of your own marriage and past in order to comment on hers. Don’t make knowing eyes when she mentions she’s going on date number three. Don’t tell her how to behave on a date. Don’t tell her what guys like on a date. Don’t tell her to wear a low-cut shirt on a date. Don’t make any reference to getting lucky, like, ever.

What guy does any of this? How does he know when a female coworker had a date to begin with? There’s a lot that goes along with how a woman comes to a list of Don’ts, but I think this list represents a good illustration of the creep dynamic. The primary concern she has in all of these Don’ts can all be distilled down to a guy beneath her Hypergamous attraction floor presuming a familiar intimacy with her. I find it very hard to believe any of these Don’ts would be actual occurrences, but I’m looking at them through a Red Pill Lens – yes, it’s entirely likely that Blue Pill creeps would in fact resort to some of these comments.

Essentially the entire article is an effort in berating the Beta men women really want nothing to do with.

YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF SAYING OR DOING A WRONG THING AND HAVING IT BE INTERPRETED IN EXACTLY THE WAY YOU MEANT IT.

Women want lesser men to be afraid to approach, compliment and engage with them, but the message is wrapped in generalities to imply all men do these things. This message has the potential to throw the Alphas out with the bathwater, so I would predict there’ll be a few related articles that will of course shame men for not ‘manning up’ and approaching women like a “real man” should.

Dangerous Times

All that said, I can easily imagine Beta men, confused about sexual zoning, engaging in exactly the behaviors described here. It is a very dangerous time to be a Blue Pill Beta today. In fact, I’d argue it’s never been more potentially hazardous for guy ignorant of Game and the nature of intersexual dynamics. I find it very ironic that the men who actually understand the potential for some real life-damaging accusations in the workplace or any other off-limits social context, who take the open door, have-a-witness, policy for working with women are being shamed for it by women. This is the environment they created, but they created it in response to a want for absolute control of their Hypergamous choices.

A “creep” can pretty much be anyone a woman (or women) want that guy to be – even guys who were previously attractive with whom they had consensual sex with. That Alpha they didn’t mind oversharing their sex life information with can be the “creep” if he decides to break things off with her. Again, this comes back to unfettered control of women’s Hypergamous choices as well as absolving them of any regrets they may have had that resulted from them.

Edelweiss had an excellent comment in last week’s thread:

From my perspective, the guys most often labeled a “creep” are those with poor social awareness and/or men who those women see as offering no real value to them.

Now in my mid 40’s, I can see things that would never have registered for a 20yr old version of me. I often think “how did I miss this before?”. My focus now is almost entirely on body language. A woman can consistently lie with what she says, but she (anyone really) can’t consistently lie with their body language. Any guy not well versed in reading the various signs of interest, or a lack of, needs to spend some time studying the basics. It seems simple now.

One of the major mistakes I see guys make, is escalating too quickly. Touching, and sexualizing around a woman who isn’t into you, or is unsure of your value, is a great way to be labeled a creep. How many times have you seen a guy double down on an approach that isn’t working, and consequently become known as a “creeper”? A good number of men get into “pursuit” mode, and completely fuck up their chances by being overzealous.

I’ve got to repeat this, it’s never been a more dangerous time for men unaware of Red Pill intersexual dynamics and even basic Game principles. Blue Pill Beta men have been conditioned and acculturated to default to a Beta Game that is the perfect storm for so volatile a time. These guys literally have no idea that what their interacting with women is doing is setting them up for. Simple compliments and treating women with a default respect is becoming a liability for men with poor social awareness, but this is exactly the type of men our social order has developed for the past 4 generations. These Beta ‘creeps’ who should just know better than to try to approach the ‘average’ woman are the result of decades of raising and acculturating boys to hate their masculine nature and confuse their good intentions with some form of Game women might appreciate.

Pook once had a great quote back on the SoSuave Forum. He said,

How do I judge a woman’s character? I see how she treats people who can do nothing for her.
This test has never failed me.

At this point in time I think we are seeing how women treat the men who can do nothing for them.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

481 comments on “The Creep – Part 3

  1. @Blaximus

    I can’t even wrap my head around what I just typed as even remotely seeming reasonable.

    it’s not ‘reasonable’, but it’s not unexpected…

    just extrapolate Rollo’s FI analysis to its logical conclusion (barring any sufficient ‘pushback’ from the MI… which most likely won’t happen in time to avert any particular ‘step’ in the downward spiral…including the actual collapse…)

    getting from where we were (prosperous, wealthy society… with some problems…) to complete system failure/collapse/anarchy doesn’t just happen overnight… (well, when it kicks off, it will SEEM like it was overnight…lol)… there are plenty of steps to process through, one of which is what you typed… a ‘reckoning’ is just the FI’s accumulated disgust with the “male feminists’ ” lack of alpha traits… (i think we might safely move up the expected timeline on those ‘alpha stud farms’…lol)

    Rome took how long to collapse?… with various plateaus on the way down… but Rome never had revenue from nail salons or you tube videos counted as part of GDP…so, maybe THAT will save us…lol

    tech advances generally always speeds up whatever it touches… that idea should map onto the collapse of our current system… whereas before it might have taken years, if not longer (or ever), to process out ‘creepy’ news readers like lauer… NOW, the ‘reckoning’ can be applied against MANY ‘creeps’ at the same time… it just takes a hashtag and some social media exposure… and a couple weeks…lol

    overall, this is just part of the natural process of weeding out ‘unfit’ genetics… it has a different timeline than an annual migration, but the concept is the same… no reason to believe that people are immune to ‘nature’…lol… which does not have much empathy for you…

    good luck!

  2. @ Sentient

    Lol, I am not ever going beta. I’m confident even chicks from a few decades ago don’t have any issues, even Tara gave a few repeats bj’s after her initial complaint. I warned her pre nut bust, she finished like the champ she was.

    But full disclosure: I’m much much more aware since this feeding frenzy has commenced. My job has dozens and dozens of cameras inside and outside. I used to pretty much ignore them, but I’ve become more aware.

    It has caused me to be more conscious of what I’m doing and saying, as everything is recorded and documented in some fashion.

    So now, the im’s from female coworkers only get ‘ professional ‘ replies. A message of ” hey hey hey ” only get a ” can I help you ” response. The Indian Bollywood looker with truckloads of eye contact and super close proximity gets 75% less ec in return from me and a ” step back ” to remain at a nice distance for the candid camera in the ceiling.

    The other day we had our twice yearly super cleaning of our data center. I have to be physically in the rooms to ensure no cables or fiber optics get disturbed. Half the cleaning crew is female. I was joking with one of the staff, and she laughed at something I said. While laughing, she put her hand on my shoulder and ran it down across my chest and stomach and brushed my thigh. Normally this would barely register, but not now. I actually thought to myself ” wtf?” And glanced over to see what camera angle was catching the interaction.

    So now I keep quiet and stay at a distance with my arms folded across my chest or my hands in my pockets.

    I’ve ” sexually harassed ” practically every woman in HR except the head of the Dept for years. It was a running inside joke. No more. And until all of this stupid shit sorts itself out and the ” reckoning ” is complete, whatever the fuck that means, work is going to be duller and more stiffled. Lol, no more 12-14 hour days for me. 8 hours or less and out the door.

  3. http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/hollywood-sexual-harassment-abuse-john-lasseter-matt-lauer-1201901083/

    “getting from where we were (prosperous, wealthy society… with some problems…) to complete system failure/collapse/anarchy doesn’t just happen overnight… (well, when it kicks off, it will SEEM like it was overnight…lol)… there are plenty of steps to process through, one of which is what you typed… a ‘reckoning’ is just the FI’s accumulated disgust with the “male feminists’ ” lack of alpha traits… (i think we might safely move up the expected timeline on those ‘alpha stud farms’…lol)”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkd3RBfPTQI

    https://www.biography.com/video/elmore-leonard-full-episode-2073090879

  4. @ HABD

    You’re right all the way. My silly appeals to reason are a character flaw imbedded in me from spending way too much of my formative years in the company of men.

    Rome has always been interesting concerning the reasons and timeframe of it’s collapse. You’d think that with examples of what not to do, subsequent empires could easily avoid bullshit pitfalls.

    But nah

  5. @Blaximus

    Rome has always been interesting concerning the reasons and timeframe of it’s collapse. You’d think that with examples of what not to do, subsequent empires could easily avoid bullshit pitfalls.

    But nah

    the FI is cunning and pervasive…

    good luck!

  6. Aaaaaannd another one bites the dust — Garrison Keillor. A talented radio presence but pretty creepy in other respects

  7. “Creepy” Travis Bickle…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdWeU9N0Jb0

    Betsy doesn’t quite know what to make of Travis. She is
    curious, intrigued, tantalized. Like a moth, she draws
    closer to the flame.

    http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/taxidriver.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ve57l3c19g

    Travis: “I felt when I walked in , that there was something between us, there was an impulse that we were both following…so that gave me the right to come in and talk to you…

    […]

    Did you feel that way?”

    Betsy:”I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t.”

  8. “a ‘reckoning’ is just the FI’s accumulated disgust with the “male feminists’ ” lack of alpha traits…“

    The FI convinced women with their self provisioning, they can have it all. Women underestimate their hardwiring and survey says: no, the provisioning/sensitive metrosexual creeps them, short and long term.

    Women instinctually dodge responsibility and scapegoat the latest SMP disappointment on the sexually disqualified. Why not? The supplicating Betas never tire of abuse.

    Collateral damage is inevitable. Maintaining a cultural fiction requires full participation.

  9. “We are interested in how a feminine reader is constructed rhetorically and how that meaning can be used to subvert dominant meaning about women”

    “We have long suspected gender plays key roles in Keillor’s monologues simply because of the line with which his monologues end, “And that’s the news from Lake Woebegone, where all the women are strong and all the men good looking.”

    “We realize the full extent to which he creates a preferred spectator position that relies on traditionally female competencies…”

    http://www.sonjafoss.com/html/Foss62.pdf

    These guys think they’re protected. Why now? The FI is eating it’s own children now. Is this the beginning of the end???

  10. “Women underestimate their hardwiring and survey says: no, the provisioning/sensitive metrosexual creeps them, short and long term.

    Women instinctually dodge responsibility and scapegoat the latest SMP disappointment on the sexually disqualified. Why not? The supplicating Betas never tire of abuse.

    Collateral damage is inevitable. Maintaining a cultural fiction requires full participation.”

    Supplicating betas never tire of abuse…. Spot on… Spot on…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY9Aw_Uadho
    Requiring participation…
    NSFW trigger warning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZhhA87d6g
    If the scene was anymore…

  11. Honest question:

    Have enough men already left the tradional role of “Alpha with a little provisioning” that there’s really no one else to blame but the men left willing to tolerate the FI crap long term?

    What is left is what was predicted: Men in enough numbers have left the trad. SMP, women remain unable to adapt to the vacuum. They begin a low-grade cry of despair (Rape! Man up!) in a vain attempt to coerce but too late.

    Cool time to be alive.

  12. “Have enough men already left the tradional role of “Alpha with a little provisioning” that there’s really no one else to blame but the men left willing to tolerate the FI crap long term?”

    I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha”. Most men have always been beta, with alphas being a minority. But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle.

  13. “Have enough men already left the tradional role of “Alpha with a little provisioning” that there’s really no one else to blame but the men left willing to tolerate the FI crap long term?

    What is left is what was predicted: Men in enough numbers have left the trad. SMP, women remain unable to adapt to the vacuum. They begin a low-grade cry of despair (Rape! Man up!) in a vain attempt to coerce but too late.

    Cool time to be alive.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp4YyIPGk70
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtcEKbUifU

    Sentient

    NSFW

  14. “But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle.”

    Kinda hard to prepare your daughter for life when you’re competing with her in the SMP…..

  15. EhIntellect
    The FI convinced women with their self provisioning, they can have it all.

    Women are their own Betas now unless they do not want to be. This is true for women under 50 and it’s almost universal for those under 30. That’s why Provider Game is dead.

    Women underestimate their hardwiring and survey says: no, the provisioning/sensitive metrosexual creeps them, short and long term.

    All it takes is a taste of Alpha.

    The preference cascade, the “oh, I had to put up with … you did too?” is part of the ongoing FI-lanche. There’s score settling for sure. Let’s not kid ourselves, women have been using a whiff of sex to outcompete men in the business world for decades. Why delay that promotion if Bob the Boss can be taken down by a small girl-herd conspiracy? All of you get to move up one rung of the corporate ladder right away instead of when he retires, plus get to play the role of “wronged woman!”, what’s not to like?

    Power corrupts. Especially pussy power. Salem witch trials. I keep pointing that way.

  16. CSI
    I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha”. Most men have always been beta, with alphas being a minority. But society used to prepare girls for the reality that they would be marrying an average beta. Now, it tells them not to settle.

    This. This right here sums almost everything up.

    Couple this with all the Title IX / female-only scholarships / Affirmative Action / Human Resources coven and any woman of average intelligence can Be Her Own Beta – so she never needs to build a better one. She can be part of an Alpha soft harem. Her contempt for the ordinary Beta man with a bit of Alpha can only grow larger with time.

  17. Sentient
    HABD’s Guard Dog spin up situation is going to get very messy, very soon!

    Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn. That’s going to take some pondering.

    Reminds me of the old “how to defend yourself against an atomic missile” joke:
    “Don’t be there when it goes off”.

  18. “Kinda hard to prepare your daughter for life when you’re competing with her in the SMP…..”

    that competition is amazing to witness. I would have bet a lot of smokes that these high profile guys getting taken down for sex stuff would have been mother-daughter fucking or something similarly cool. mother-daughter-grandma maybe. but no. not even close.

    these late 30s-mid 40s timebomb moms go off just as they are leaving the marketplace and their daughters at 12-15 are in the fastest part of the current…

    they fuck these teen girls up big time when they blow up the family. the girls end up angry, hurt, etc, blame themselves like kids always do and then jump on a dick asap

    an enterprising “creep” could write some code that would id girls on the web using language that betrayed the fact that mommy was done with daddy. these girls would be easy marketing targets in a coveted demo for legit products as the first hop on the carousel is often accompanied by a rampant materialistic burst that centers on making herself as sexually attractive as possible and all that makeup and shit is super high margin and creates patterns

    watching a mom sabotage her daughter in real time makes it very easy to understand why so many chicks have problems with their moms. and then have to watch in the mirror as they fucking turn into them in slow motion

    I wouldn’t be a girl for all the glitter and smoothies and attention in the world. it really is a cruel fate. maybe that’s why they bury the baby girls all over asia and then try again

  19. “Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn.”

    If Feminism is really just a meta- multi gen shit test… and there is never enough push back on the FI, it seems it has to end this way. Else women will be satisfied with no alpha.

    The recent “browning” of Europe and attraction of Sharia is another sign… when those doods then go ghey… Guard your dick.

  20. “What on earth is a Guard Dog spinup?”

    See HABD’s explanation:

    https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-59/#comment-224489

    how do you train a guard dog?… you push it a little, and when it ‘fights back’ (pushes back against your frame) you let it ‘win’… next time you push it a little harder, and when it fights back, you resist a little bit, but then you let it win… rinse and repeat until you can break baseball bat over its head and it will still rip your arm off…

    same thing with girls…lol…

    you push against her frame, but when she pushes back (with her rolodex of shit tests), you let her win… next time, you resist a little harder (and maybe pass THAT shit test), but she pushes back harder than last time, aaand… you let her win… (can be with a different shit test in her rolodex…)… rinse and repeat until you are sitting in a jail cell for being ‘creepy’… (how’s that for pulling this back around to the current OP?…lol)”

  21. CSI answers the question, perhaps without even noticing it. Consent, in progressive/feminist theory is code for . . . Power.

  22. “I think most men have always provided “beta provisioning with a bit of alpha”

    Not to be contrarian…but I see it differently.

    The FI is a recent development in human existence. Hypergamy is eternal, but the FI anabolizes it beyond logic, the wellbeing of women even.

    50 yrs of feminism is a period of time too small to register a lasting impression on human nature, too grand to conceptualize to act upon so we exaggerate our intellectual and start making cultural changes on fly for short term benefit. Tradition once served the role of providing comforting guidelines obviating the need for a backstory to justify our behavior..

    I’ve seen pics of my male lineage back to the 1880’s. All the women were raw feminine, the men serious, jack of all trades, never smiling. Life was hard and Alpha was necessarily accepted for survival. Christ, even wedding pictures were only muted satisfaction. This is not unusual.

    My cushy life and the FI hysteria (!) we are experiencing today is.

    The wheels of feminism hubris are coming off. Self destruction is not self improvement. Don’t expect the lefty types to admit it. Elitist cultural manipulation never knows when to stop or stop blaming others.

    The average empowered women is dissatisfied but can’t change course. They simply can’t do it alone and are terrified of leaving the comfort of the FI for something better.

    In the meantime, Alpha up and we not need sweat the bullshit. (h/t Sentient)

  23. Re: penis chopping

    “They were in the middle of things. He wasn’t asleep. They began with a sexual game in which he was blindfolded.”

    Take note. He assumed the submissive.

  24. “Not to be contrarian…but I see it differently. The FI is a recent development in human existence.”

    No, no, no. The FI is the ground of female reproductive strategy. It has existed as long as sexual reproduction. Our proto-lemur grandmothers were fully imbued with the FI. It is not feminism (which is merely a tactic of the FI), it is the feminine itself.

    Get a handle on this, or get a handle on nothing.

  25. @Eh intellect

    That story you told about that weird chick is creepy af.

    @NotBornThisMorning

    In response to your earlier comment, that was a vicious breakdown of how women will use a Mr. Nice Guy. Brutal, but you hit the nail on the head: they will use a sissy until there’s nothing left of him, but I think this response is innate: if a man is presenting himself to her as an object who lives for nothing other than her then she may as well use him like a tool until he’s no longer useful. And when you look like at it like that, it’s not surprising.

    Here’s a slightly creepy woman story, it’s not mine but it happened to a redpill friend of mine a few years back: he brought a girl home who he’d met on a night out two weeks before, but who he hadn’t slept with. At the house, and after stripping down, she went for a bottle of water in her bag, poured it in a glass then asked him to have one, which he did. Afterwards, she told him she had just crushed some ecstasy in it. He’d never done drugs, so it freaked him out. After the effects took place, she proceeded to sleep with him then left. He woke up with the worst migraine and never spoke to her again. I always thought that was a weird one.

  26. Now NPR’s top news editor is forced out. I have no sympathy for anyone at NPR but get a load of the three co-workers’ allegations:
    1) “Unexpectedly kissing” Woman 1 in a car (back in 2002)
    2) Leaning in to kiss Woman 2 as they were having drinks at a bar (2007)
    3) Giving Woman 3 “unwanted attention” and “unsolicited gifts” that made her feel “deeply uncomfortable.”

  27. @fleezer

    Preach. Whenever I’m in a shopping centre I’ll see mums – who are past it – shopping with their 15yo daughters and wearing damn near the same outfit as their kid. That period, 11 – 18, is probably when a girl needs a stable female figure, not someone who’s blowing up the house and trying to recapture the past and enter the same market their daughter’s in.

  28. “Giving Woman 3 “unwanted attention” and “unsolicited gifts” that made her feel “deeply uncomfortable.””

    Literally rapist Hitler.

  29. @AR Sentient

    Sentient
    HABD’s Guard Dog spin up situation is going to get very messy, very soon!

    Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn. That’s going to take some pondering.

    thaaat’s what’s been bugging me about the Roy Moore situ… i couldn’t quite figure it out, but THAT was it…

    since the FI is the aggregated decisions (per hypergamy) of all girls, it makes sense that the FI would have the aggregated rolodexes of all girls available to use for it’s shit testing purposes… at the same time… against the same man…

    and what happens when you slam that shit test back over the net with ZFG?… another volley back…lol… rinse and repeat to explain the Roy Moore situ…

    and that guard dog spinup will increase in potential intensity as each individual man succeeded and then failed (and especially after resisting more each time…)…

    sooo, the FI NEEDS to make Roy Moore ‘fail’… by apologizing, confessing, etc… bc without that failure, “men” passed the FI shit test… at least ‘that time’… so, my prediction would be that the next men targeted will get hit harder on the initial/opening salvo…

    Society wide guard dog spinup indeed…

    good luck!

  30. O.B.I.T.
    I have no sympathy for anyone at NPR but get a load of the three co-workers’ allegations:

    He’s guilty of being a thirsty, whining, pleading Beta while impersonating Alpha.
    Getting off easy just losing his job. No pruning shears involved.

  31. O.B.I.T.
    …. But looking and acting thirsty/whining/pleading is was not necessarily a firing offense

    Fixed that for you. Don’t live in the past.

  32. @AR

    That’s why Provider Game is dead.

    Watching this all around me right now. Provider Game young men completely sidelined as the 20 something women have their own (no dirt, no danger) jobs, money, cars, even their own houses already!

    @O.B.I.T.

    …made her feel “deeply uncomfortable.”

    In retrospect?

    …. But looking and acting thirsty/whining/pleading is not necessarily a firing offense

    That was five minutes ago. Things apparently have changed.

  33. hABD

    “sooo, the FI NEEDS to make Roy Moore ‘fail’… by apologizing, confessing, etc… ”

    Well consider they tried this with Trump and failed, and look to fail with Moore… As each like it or not are Alpha… Sooooo they are going cunts out on the greater betas like Lauer etc. Since they can’t by definition tag an Alpha.

    Nicholson is napping soundly.

  34. Imagine Matt Lauer’s world and his mindset, the mindset of his wife and the mindset of those in the industry that know Matt Lauer.

    What’s he been doing with his life? What is his purpose and mission? What does he want to accomplish in life. Besides creeping on women at away assignments like the Olypics with woman that harbor a grudge.

    He seems to have been on a mission to be good at his craft and be one of the highest paid newscasters (or whatever it is that he does. I’m not sure. I don’t watch that shit).

    His marriage to an attractive mother of his three children went really far south during her third pregancy. “He’s a workaholic”. “He’s abusive”. “She brought my abuse on herself” “I got NBC to pay for my helicopter trips to the Hampton’s so at least I’m trying to invest in my wife and kids emotionally.”

    She checked out. He pursued his work despite his rise in the industry and wealth (and not that there is anything wrong with that).

    He probably had a dead bedroom and she probably seethed.

    In that scenario with her in the Hamptons and raising her three kids and him being wealthy.

    What’s to stop her from pushing him out of the nest. What’s to stop the Feminine Imperative from facilitating this to advance their narrative? If you were in her shoes what would you do with him never there? (I admit, we don’t know the backstory though.) I know what I would do if I were a girl and I was in the on-the-face of it situation. I’d ditch him if I were a girl, take half his money and get the media to go all: You go girl! (And no, I’m not White Knighting even if that’s your perception. Keep in mind Matt Lauer is probably a narcissistic dick. What would Dagny Taggert or Ayn Rand do?)

    Calls for speculation on my part. Also note that I put the onus on Lauer without having any clue what he felt or wanted about the situation. I can speculate that at the least for appearances he wouldn’t want a divorce even if he was getting some on the side.

    Are my thoughts Purple Pill, fit into a Red Pill paradigm? I don’t think we can know that without the nature of the value of Lauer’s wife to him, or his real desires.

    Accompanying question: Is this Tony Robbins video red pill or purple pill? And note in that last question, don’t forget to think about the child/children. After all Lauer and the guy in the video decided to raise children with their wives. With that choice, “be amoral in your assessments, Be ethical In your actions.” Keep in mind, you also “fill her up so much that she wants to give to you is not necessarily leaning in, pedestalizing her, or making her the focus of your life. Nor is it entirely Blue Pill. It can merely be living your life in a great way the way you want it with real power and the ability to lead the outcome of your life the way you decided and continue to decide to on a in-real-time basis.

    https://youtu.be/tIg7AhfB9_A

    I’m only writing this comment to throw out Married Red Pill Relationship Game thoughts. Once again, who knows the backstory? I’m just talking about the over-story. If you had Matt Lauer’s resources, would you and could you do anything that you want to do? Accomplish your goals?

  35. “Be amoral in your assessments, Be ethical In your actions.” –forgot to attribute that to a Rollo Tweet back in September.

  36. @OBIT
    re: workplace firing.

    IMO you’re right and wrong to a degree.

    Right: HR practices are imbalanced, unethical. Busuness practices of underclass exploitation, excluding native workers, rent seeking visa lobbying. Shameful.

    Wrong: No one is entitled to a job. After being recently fired, that attitude personally paid off in spades as I stopped working for the boss but for myself. It’s a mindset liberation thing.

    SJF says it well:

    What’s he been doing with his life? What is his purpose and mission?

    Nice taking to you.

    What’s he been doing with his life? What is his purpose and mission?

  37. Bombards Body language is great entertainment. I mentioned before the Krauser had mentioned the entertainment value of watching her Youtube videos.

    Here she analyzes reaction to news anchors and their reaction to Matt Lauer news:

    One of the comments: “Chris Cuomo looks guilty as sin and scared shitless.”

    https://youtu.be/EYOPeyF4EFg

    “This is the moment we’ve been waiting for. When you start to see the news anchors get scared. “Ohh, they took out Matt Lauer!” The irony. It’s like the left called 911. But their 911 goes to 1944’s Hitler’s Germany. What do we do? It’s An Emergency!

    And another of the comments below that video: a nod to The Sisterhood:

    Mark Simone, radio host in NY, predicted it weeks ago. He said that everyone knew. Simone suggested that Megyn Kelly probably turned in information on Matt Lauer which she heard in the rumor mill at the network. I would only add that she probably heard that Lauer said something smarmy about her bad ratings first.

    Her observations and choices of analysis are somewhat random on recent events. But she can see through people when observing voice and body language. And has a conservative political bent

    This is random, but it is funny and is something to keep in mind in the future. She calls Zuckerberg a retard in relation to Artificial Intellegence, which no doubt Facebook will employ. At least Elon Musk is smart enough to call out the danger of AI and the future in the hands of retards that will employ AI as a tool. High IQ retarded Ideological Blue Pill un-wise brains. (With a lack of correlation between high IQ and wisdom or praxeology as opposed to ideology.)

    https://youtu.be/mJpCWScLyKo

  38. @KFG

    No, no, no. The FI is the ground of female reproductive strategy. It has existed as long as sexual reproduction. Our proto-lemur grandmothers were fully imbued with the FI. It is not feminism (which is merely a tactic of the FI), it is the feminine itself.

    Get a handle on this, or get a handle on nothing.

    You mean it’s and automatic algorithm? Oh Noes. What if the Masculine Imperative algorithms get petrified? What if new algorithms take over?

    In his latest book Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow, Harari offers his vision of how our future may be about to unfold, predictions that have seen him described as “the Seer of Silicon Valley”. He argues that we are already facing, with overwhelming probability, the end of humankind as we know it. The trigger for this cataclysm won’t be a race of beautiful androids or an army of machines bent on bumping off humans. It will be a simple creation that we have already incorporated into our everyday lives: the algorithm.

    The algorithm is, Harari writes, “arguably the single most important concept in our world” today. An algorithm is simply a mathematical pattern for solving problems. Until very recently, the best source of that problem-solving power on Earth was a human brain. Algorithms now outpace us at an ever-growing list of cognitive tasks.

    If the retarded Zuckerberg’s and the algorithm takes over (not that it hasn’t already) full on retard is ahead.

    https://thestand.investec.co.uk/yuval-harari-reveals-future-mankind/

    “The most important question in 21st-century economics may well be what to do with all the superfluous people.”

    Our greatest threat, in Harari’s opinion, is already under our noses and near invisible: hidden away in the algorithms that choose our news feeds and increasingly advise us how to make our choices. As Harari warns: “The algorithms won’t revolt and enslave us. Rather, the algorithms will be so good in making decisions for us, that it would be madness not to follow their advice.”

    Feminism is an algorithm of female reproductive strategy that kind of got out of control in the last two generations. The algorithms of today’s inter-sexual have worked out better than actually having men be men, feeling with their masculine heart and using their cognitive abilities in Game , natural or learned. And women being women. Not knowing what their brains are telling them, but really feeling that emotion in their Heart of Hearts, cognition be damned. Cognition is not their strong suit, so don’t be tentative/confused/surprised, when someone told them to use their cognition to solve the how-the-fuck-did-we-get-here? problem. You’re the man. You lead.

  39. Conservative bent?

    Omg.

    Pro tip: let that shit go already. It’s not longer exists. No more fairy tales for men.

  40. AR/Lost Patrol
    Sadly you are right, at this point anything is a firing offense. I’m trying to recall if there was a time when adults dealt with these things person to person, without lawyers and HR in tow.

    And of course I doubt that this female NPR employee would have felt so “deeply uncomfortable” if the guy sending those gifts resembled Warren Beatty or Robert Redford — two studs who famously portrayed reporters and believe me you do not see much of that breed in any newsroom I’ve been in.

    And thumbs up to Bombard and to Mark Simone — who says Megan Kelly and Gayle King are the two most treacherous snakes any guy could have to work with.

  41. Watch more of her stuff going forward Blaximus. She thinks like a man. even if she’s selling her wares (which is most simply body language and facial expression interpretation. Some of us can benefit by reading body language. She’s interpreting sub-coms.

    You are jumping to conclusions on extemporaneous snippets of first seeing her.

    She has good comments on current events. I’m sure myself and Krauser like her for her judmentalism, as we are both in the INTfuckingJ mode most of the time. (Bottoms up. Who cares about the political noise? People without agency, that’s who. So don’t diss me for that conservative bent comment. I like you and don’t care about who you are politically. Your red pill allegiance is enough to cement my liking to you.)

    She’s arbitrary like a woman if you only see a few snippets of her output on youtube. She has a watch their behavior, not what they say vibe going on.

    Don’t shit on me for being “conservative” whatever that means. I’m a firm believer of masculine/feminine polarity and Liberal/Conservative balance (except for the SJW retarded shit).

    You can take politics out of it and take the reading peoples action by observing what they do, rather than what they say.

    From about 15 to 20 videos I’ve seen, she has definitely been impartial on being part of the Sisterhood. Near as I can tell she’s a rural woman that would call out any and all bullshit. She’s neutral on the feminine imperative.

  42. Bombard did some hilarious stuff last year shredding up that dippy young Obama State Department woman who accidentally blabbed about some surveillance documents she wasn’t supposed to be anywhere near — and then went on every show to lie about it.

  43. @ sjf

    Lol. I wasn’t shitting on you brother. I’d never shit on you.

    I’m just saying, the talk about ” left ” vs ” right ” vs ” conservative ” vs ” liberal ” vs ” Marxism ” vs ” Godzilla ” vs ” King Kong “…. It’s not as important because everything has morphed into something that it wasn’t originally. We keep applying outdated definitions to stuff as we keep trying to choose up ” sides ” like we’re playing some kind of sport.

    All of it is man-made. All of it is corrupted. 75% of it is straight up bullshit.

    I had a discussion with my super right wing conservative cousin recently, where he was going to ” set me straight on a few things “, lol. He went on and on and on about the new tax plan and job creation and benefits to the struggling middle class and blah, blah, blah – and then he said that ” liberal leftist ” destroy the wealth of the nation with social programs that produce nothing but strangling debt.

    And he was serious. It was in his eyes.

    So I asked him what was the debt situation under/after the last 3 ” conservative ” presidents. I asked him this because he was alive and grown through the presidencies in question, so if he had eyes and ears and a brain, he should know the answers. He said something about Carter, but I demanded that he stay on subject and answer the question that I posed to him. I even gave him a hint as to one’s identity – ” No. New. Taxes. “.

    He was gonna google it and get back to me. I haven’t heard from him since. I’m sure when I do hear from him, he will be full of excuses, because his ” Team ” has to win and be right. Lol.

    There hasn’t really been a right and left in govt for a generation now. 2 sides of the same coin, both conning the public.

    I watch politics to see what’s actually going on vs what each side likes to say is going on. I don’t choose sides because that’s a losing strategy. Like choosing which kind of poisonous snake you’d like to be bitten by. It’s all bullshit now. The good news is that it’s becoming more obvious.

    Older members of my family, they have very spirited discussions about ” conservatism vs liberalism “, because in their eyes, nothing has changed and one side is ” right ” and the other is ” wrong “. That’s all in the past now.

    But interestingly, none of the old timers that consider themselves ” liberal minded ” went to vote for Hillary. Lmfao – what do you mean you don’t like/.trust her? What do you mean she’s the devil incarnate? She’s on your ” team ” right? None of the ” conservative ” family members went to vote for Trump. What do you mean he’s not intelligent or conservative? What do you mean he’s not up to the office? He’s on your team, right?

    Anyway, I didn’t mean to come off like I was shitting. I was just sayin’. Like YaReally used to say, I worry about the newbs. The younger cats looking at this stuff and just checking out. They can see it clearly. Us old folks try to hold on to what we used to know.

  44. You would think that you wouldn’t waste your time on a PoPT guy like Tony Robbins. You might miss out on something. You might have Rollo be skeptical. Because.

    What if you had an hour and 26 minutes to waste on something by him that is evo-psych. Heh there is bluetooth earbuds, commutes and times away from your woman when you can spend some time on it.

    The girl in the following video gives like zero authenticity. She is duplicitous and non authentic. Half the girls fault half the guys fault. Neither being all in in terms of MRP Game. The goal is to have actually the guy and the girl to each be in the Game 100%. Then the fun starts. Really fun.

    http://www.masculinity-movies.com/articles/the-three-stages-of-david-deida

    Fuck you if you guys in a LTR don’t believe that. You are not having fun.

    Women are scared.

    But horny straight away for an Alpha man.

    MRP tip. Have Radiance. And Authenticity.

    Women need to show openness, radiance and authenticity.

    I can’t find any non Red Pill things here on relationship Game here in the following video. It is only relevant to relationship game. But it is red pill. Tell me if you don’t think so.

    I loathe long video rather that the written word. But so be it. It it is a long one. But a good one.
    The shit about the fact that you can”t be red pill and be all in with a partner and have a healthy relationship in a married red pill fashion. I call bullshit on that.

    Purple pill naysayers. Lost boy PUAs fuck off.

    Relationship Game and LTR with good wife and children is fun as hell. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

    OK. Tell me if this isn’t straight up Red Pill and evo psych married red pill in the vein of Rian Stone and The Family Alpha.

    Non MRP guys need not even look. It’s a waste of you time.

    https://youtu.be/aLSqzMqI8tA

    Please find fault in this in a non-Red Pill vein for any LTR. Do it. Be all in with your good woman.
    Or not. Try it out. See what works.

  45. @Blaximus

    I watch politics to see what’s actually going on vs what each side likes to say is going on. I don’t choose sides because that’s a losing strategy. Like choosing which kind of poisonous snake you’d like to be bitten by. It’s all bullshit now. The good news is that it’s becoming more obvious.

    Older members of my family, they have very spirited discussions about ” conservatism vs liberalism “, because in their eyes, nothing has changed and one side is ” right ” and the other is ” wrong “. That’s all in the past now.

    I Know. I Know. Of what you are saying.

    Even though we white assed people fought with “Black People” and were kicked out and banned from All NFL stadiums (well me my son, and daughter, not my wife cause she just STFU, even though me the Patriarch dindu nothing except DEER for my son and daughter’s boy friend) in 2016 because our posse was drunk and fought with black people during our celebration of Thanksgiving, we still went back in 2017 and did the tailgating thing and had a wonderful time at that one of special teams that celebrated family and U.S.A Thanksforgiving. The facial recognition didn’t work. We had a celebration. And fun. It doesn’t fucking matter to have enmities. It’s your tribe that matters. And in-group altruism and out group malice One doesn’t own other tribes their due. You give your tribe their due. And you don’t sweat the details. Unless some other tribe attacks you (as we were at the Thanksgiving 2016 game) you don’t go out of your way to have malice for other tribes.

    Of course I’m just jesting there Blax and trust you not to take the bait. Because you are a big man.

    If They attack you Blaximus. What do you do? Adapt or punch. If the FI attacks you, what do you do? Be submissive. Adapt or punch?

    I’ve adressed it before.

    https://therationalmale.com/2016/10/07/environmental-stresses/comment-page-2/#comment-172968

    It’s not about left and right. It’s about the getting out of hand once the tribe gets too Bigly.

    Humans were not intrinsically designed to behave well in big tribes. The design of a small tribe based on our firmware is exquisite.

    Bottoms up Guys. Don’t think that huge groups of people can ever do well. Don’t think that big Ideologies can every do the best thing for you. Big pendulums can only ever suck you in and gain energy from you. Operate on your own self interest and bottoms up.. Top Down agency will never work. Because of the decline.

    The dichotomy of political forces is organic and necessary for our well being for exactly the stuff you addressed in you comments.

  46. “I’ve seen pics of my male lineage back to the 1880’s. All the women were raw feminine, the men serious, jack of all trades, never smiling. Life was hard and Alpha was necessarily accepted for survival. Christ, even wedding pictures were only muted satisfaction. This is not unusual.”

    Well those old timey photos were expensive and had a long exposure, which required careful posing. But I’m sure men were physically fitter, more self reliant, more stoic then. But by the definition of this site and similar ones, most men would still have been “beta”. I’m sure that at any time and in any culture, most men are “beta”.

  47. Blax says that Marxism and the Left have changed. Lessee…

    “From each according to his ability…to each according to his need.” Sound familiar? Standard Old Fashioned Marxism. How does this play out today? From each man according to his ability…to each woman according to her need. Feminist Marxism…same ol’ same ol’

    You can even google “feminist Marxism” and get tons of hits.

    While the tactics may change–unions are no longer a major player in leftist political tactics–the core marxist philosophy hasn’t changed any…

    …Marxism is still anti-religion

    …anti-family

    …anti-capitalist

    …pro-redistribution of wealth

    …against U.S. greatness especially through its economic and political influence

    …for government by global committee (i.e., international organizations like the U.N.)

    …against nationalism and pro-globalism

    …Marxists rewrite history to suit their agenda.

    …Marxists seek to eliminate small business by giving advantages to Big Business…then they nationalize Big Business and capitalism is no more.

    None of that shit has changed since the early 1900s. The Left hasn’t changed in any significant way except it has left Classic Liberalism and gone for hard core Marxism. Don’t let anyone pull the wool over your eyes by saying that left and right don’t matter.

  48. Here’s how I break down conservatives, liberals, and RINOs

    1. a conservative will take one dollar

    2. a liberal will take three dollars and give you back one

    3. a RINO will take three dollars

  49. Interesting series. Damn.

    From the OP:

    “I’ve got to repeat this, it’s never been a more dangerous time for men unaware of Red Pill intersexual dynamics and even basic Game principles. Blue Pill
    Beta men have been conditioned and acculturated to default to a Beta Game that is the perfect storm for so volatile a time. These guys literally have no
    idea that what their interacting with women is doing is setting them up for. Simple compliments and treating women with a default respect is becoming a
    liability for men with poor social awareness, but this is exactly the type of men our social order has developed for the past 4 generations. These Beta
    ‘creeps’ who should just know better than to try to approach the ‘average’ woman are the result of decades of raising and acculturating boys to hate their
    masculine nature and confuse their good intentions with some form of Game women might appreciate.”

    I would add that it is even twice as dangerous for the RSDeadheads of the world, both the “coaches” and hapless beta “clients.”
    I don’t think it is a stretch to predict the immediate doom of RSD-ish PUA boot camps and the like (undoubtedly which is why the Owen Cooks of the world are buffering into self-actualization and life coaching gobblety-gook).

    Tomassi has called this RSD hedge out in the past, but this hyper FI volatility is now at critical mass. If it can criminalize what nonthreatening humps like Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer and Garrison Keillor have done, what do you think it will do to modern day inexperienced pickup cubs?
    Going after 92 YO Navy pilot war hero and, oh, President of the U.S. George H.W. Bush? Seriously?

    These “just want to be able to touch a girl” self-hating blue pill acculturated beta boyz Rollo speaks of are, in a mere 3 or 4 days, given books on the mechanics of boxing (plagiarized versions of MM), shown a few moves (You have three seconds to engage your opponent, establish rapport and smash down her LMR” before they are pushed into the ring in front of Floyd Mayweather.

    I say Floyd Mayweather because that is where our frothing-at-the-mouth FI-society is at this exact moment. Sure, in 2005 they had a chance of making it out of the first round against a capable journeyman, but no more.
    Now their day game-night game stranger-approaching kino-heavy (ahem…groping in today’s vernacular) asses have a legitimate chance of being tossed in jail and, worse, having the police show up at their jobs after a freak successful SNL because they, being completely blue pill beta-acculturated, were clueless about how to ensure next day(s) comfort-reassuring follow-up.

    No natural or 10,000 hours skill. Behavior all over the map ranging from totally ignoring her to blue pill reversion — being super nice, over-communicating interest that goes into obsession. And she gets very. angry. He tricked her infallible intuition and she feels burned when she discovers his SMV is sooooo far below what she deserves in a man.

    As Rollo says in the OP, “Enter the creep.”
    #metoo

  50. And here is a recent Guardian OpEd live illustration of the OP’s definition of Creep and a woman’s mystical intuition. What’s more, it even involves a bastardized and hijacked fundamental tenet of PUA alpha instruction to “take up space. Sit with your legs wide apart

    … from a #metoo fueld woman:

    “It is something that I’ve been doing for years. After spending my childhood and teenage years being told to “sit properly, for God’s sake”, I decided to
    rebel by reclining in as unladylike a manner as possible. Ever since I left home, I’ve been sitting how I want to: legs wide apart, feet pointing out,
    and hands resting on my knees. It’s comfortable, it’s stabilising, and it makes me feel powerful in a way that crossing my legs never does.

    For the past decade, I’ve been womanspreading everywhere – on television, on the tube and on my mum’s dining table. Naturally, I now wear trousers most
    of the time, and my only rule is to make sure I’m always aware of the people around me. As much as I want to make a point, I refuse to become like the
    entitled manspreaders who force women to contort themselves into tiny spaces. Unlike them, I only spread out if I have the space to do so.

    Even so, the reactions are rarely positive. Well-meaning relatives advise me in loud whispers to be more demure, while strangers – often older women who
    have doubtless grown up being told to sit like ladies – tut at my stance.”

    — Did you see that? She actually is determined to be “unladylike” and admits to having to wear “trousers.” Mmmmmmm, hawwwwwwwt.

    But here is my favorite part. Hits all of the points in Rollo’s Creep series:

    “But the worst reactions come from men. Though I’m yet to see a man call out a fellow bro for manspreading, I’ve found my chosen posture leaves some men
    either looking at me in open disgust, or in a creepily sexual way.

    Only a small number of men are guilty of this, but I can spot them a mile off. Over-entitled and aggressive, they view my womanspreading on a spectrum
    that ranges from unattractive to an open invitation. It’s tempting to quietly bring my legs together under their judging eyes, but in recent years I’ve
    been responding with a stare so defiant it would make queen womanspreader Shan Boodram proud. If I’ve been doing enough squats, I’ll even try to claim
    more space than before.”

    — Ding ding ding. From the OP: “…nothing is more flattering for a woman to believe that she’s figured out a man by using her
    mythological feminine intuition.”

    And, to illustrate why Womanspreader Radikha is so angry: “The reason this is so offensive is because women’s Hypergamous optimization with any man is largely dependent on her intuition. Hypergamy and women’s long
    -term breeding strategy depends on assessing men’s SMV and their utility to her accurately. This is often compounded by women being sold on the infallibility
    of their feminine intuition – courtesy of a feminine-primary social order – and grossly exaggerated self-perceptions of their own SMV, and the caliber
    of men they ‘know’ they must deserve.”

    And Radikha finishes up with this gem. So, apparently the pain in my balls from the blood flow being cut off, whereby I give my junk some room to operate is really just my poorly veiled and evil desire to rape women in the subway station.
    Yep, total correlation.

    “This might all sound like a pointless exercise, but at a time where sexual assault and harassment allegations are springing up all around us, it’s more
    important than ever. After decades of being hushed up and ignored, women’s voices are only just starting to be heard. The
    #MeToo
    movement shows how many of us have been forced into a corner over the years, be it emotionally or physically, and how we are now fighting back.

    Much of the action is verbal, with thousands of women speaking out about shared experiences of sexual assault, harassment and discrimination. But it’s
    also starting to get physical. Women like myself are breaking free of society’s strict restraints on our bodies. After years of being told to “give us
    a smile”, be “seen not heard” and “not speak unless you have something nice to say”, we’re using #womanspreading. We’re finally taking up the space that
    we deserve.”

    — Oh and let me leave you with this. One of the 1,600 comments to this article. A dude had the audacity to question what the hell a man sitting with his legs apart has to do with sexual assault . He was hit with this:

    “It’s got to do with sexual harassment and assault because it’s about a mindset. It’s not just about taking up too much space on a seat, it’s about expressing
    entitlement. The argument goes a bit like, if a man thinks it’s ok to take up all the space on a seat, he’s also likely to think it’s ok to touch women
    without their consent. It’s about men taking things for granted and assuming everyone else should accomodate them and their needs.”

    — lol. So alpha is a mindset and sexual assault is her interpretation of the beta mindset, hm?

    Again, I say. That pain in my balls from the seam in my pants is actually just my subversive secret subcomm that I want to rape women. GTFOH

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/23/manspreading-womanspreading-fightback-metoo-resistance-physical#comments

  51. Blaximus
    Godzilla ” vs ” King Kong

    Look! Coming out of the ocean! It’s GodzirraKong! Or is it KingZilla?

  52. And here it is…

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/30/media/matt-lauer-full-statement/index.html?iid=EL

    “There are no words to express my sorrow and regret for the pain I have caused others by words and actions. To the people I have hurt, I am truly sorry. As I am writing this I realize the depth of the damage and disappointment I have left behind at home and at NBC.

    “Some of what is being said about me is untrue or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth in these stories to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed. I regret that my shame is now shared by the people I cherish dearly.

    “Repairing the damage will take a lot of time and soul searching and I’m committed to beginning that effort. It is now my full time job. The last two days have forced me to take a very hard look at my own troubling flaws. It’s been humbling. I am blessed to be surrounded by the people I love. I thank them for their patience and grace.”

  53. The laughable visual take on Lauer in my paper this morning is of the two FEMALE anchors crying and hugging each other. Probably crocodile tears but either way that’s the FI-corrupted news biz for you now.

    For men, meanwhile, almost any display of emotion in almost any context is riskier than ever — it can be flagged as either “creepy” or “toxic,” or both, and that net is widening. Emotional distancing is the way to go, if you can manage it so it doesn’t come off as mere social awkwardness. Easier to do when you work for yourself or at least consult (though Blax seems to have mastered the art of the regular day-to-day workplace!)

    That modern workplace will feature a central core of frustrated women emoting and backstabbing behind a busy facade of memo-writing and directive-giving, while men tiptoe quietly, orbiting silently at the periphery — getting things done to keep the business afloat.

    (But one curious thing about emotional distancing … it’s no random happenstance that Mr Spock’s blank demeanor very much excited the lovely Nurse Chapel’s tingles.)

  54. Just found this latest interview with pua Guru Ross Jeffries.

    I found him…creepy. There was something unsettling about how he constantly kept the host on edge making the host second-guess his own judgements and responses…

    Discuss:

  55. Is YaReally still kicking around? Online game is evolving too quickly, need some new material/strategy, core game principles still remain though. Quick break down:

    1. DM (Direct Message) using Instagram, build pre-profile follow recon (A1-A2).
    2. Pull to SnapChat, use video chat to build comfort/rapport (A3-C2).
    3. Move to Whatsapp, use push/pull and increase C2, introduce C3.
    4. Setup a date, use Kino and go into C3-S3.

  56. It seems to me that the biggest hurdle for pua/coaches/students is how to change the mindset sufficiently enough so that one no longer comes off as a little too artificial. Dude in the video is a pickup coach? Man, I’ve missed a great opportunity to make money by not having been aware of pua for so many decades. Lol.

    RJ seems like an interesting enough guy, and probably fun to hang out with…..for men. And he’s probably attracted a great amount of female attention because I submit that there are always women in the world who will find your particular ” quirk ” adorable or even sexually stimulating.

    Yet I can’t fathom RJ wandering into a room full of random 20-25 year olds and having much success. But that’s just my cursory observation. Who knows?

    He’s not ” creepy ” as much as he seems a little off kilter, juusssttt enough that it could be easily interpreted as negative. I’ve known guys similar to how RJ presents himself in the video. And every one of them got laid at will.

    But can you successfully teach others to emulate in some fashion, a quirkier mindset? Can you really teach guys that aren’t particularly interested in a different manner of communication to become Verbal Kent?

    I think there’s significant danger or creepdom in that scenario, because even in the video RJ was telegraphing an odd vibe that the interviewer was definetly picking up on.

    I’m still not convinced at all that a mindset can be taught. I do however believe a mindset can be learned.

    Life and it’s fucking contradictions. Lol.

  57. Blax

    ” I’ve known guys similar to how RJ presents himself in the video. And every one of them got laid at will.

    But can you successfully teach others to emulate in some fashion, a quirkier mindset? Can you really teach guys that aren’t particularly interested in a different manner of communication to become Verbal Kent?”

    For profit PUA is about what?

    Profit

    “Teaching” is secondary.

  58. @ Ajax

    Long time. Good to see you commenting.

    @ Yollo

    Lol.

    Re: ” secrets “- I’ve always had problems when people tell me that they can clue me in on ” the secrets ” concerning practically anything. There are zero secrets concerning women or making money in real estate. There’s only the things you do not know and aren’t aware of. Much different than a ” secret “.

    I had an aunt by marriage, who’s sister I banged into a comatose state. Me=16 at the time, her =24. That was a secret ( although my uncle was aware somehow and kept trying to ‘ arrange ‘ for me to find myself alone with his sister in law. Man, I LOVE my uncles, lol).

    Opening chicks, talking to them, sexualization of conversations, pinning their knees behind their ears, none of this is a secret as men have been doing these things forever.

    My meatloaf recipe is more of a secret

  59. @ Sentient

    Yeah, the whole profit thing is what sticks in my throat because it obscures everything about pua. This is why we don’t really know what can actually be ‘ taught ‘ . it’s not about the teaching primarily, as you point out.

  60. @ CSI

    I’ve read that definition before, and as defined, you’d be right.

    We’re here for different reasons.

    The benefit of TRM is a online brotherhood, for our personal RP to be actualized.

  61. I’m telling you Blax. Soon as you get home and she sees that box on your fridge she’ll know.

    “I’m having breakfast with this man.”

    It’s the taste you can see.

  62. Seriously though, the biggest thing Ross has going for him is his composure. It allows him to recover fast, because when you don’t cringe at yourself practically nothing is a mistake. It’s a “quirk”.

  63. @walawala: Jefferies is a hypnotist if I recall. The question / response is a method of gaining compliance as a step in persuasion. The man was clear in the video clip he’d given a lesson rather than a presentation; I’d say the lesson continued rather than an interview.

  64. ASD

    PUAs teaching for profit is that yucky capitalism thing. Ugh!

    What is teaching the unteachable? Fleecing.

    Fleecing for profit. Also capitalism.

  65. Well they gotta keep that bipartisan voter base repopulating somehow. RSD is a small wedge of a much bigger sexual zoning project.

  66. ASD

    As an avowed artist, I can tell you that sometimes, the profit motive can nullify the ” artistry ” as time becomes money.

    I’m not anti profit nor anti ” capitalism ” ( using the classic definition, not vampire-suck-everything-dry-fuck-the-world versions that it’s morphing into ).

    Profit is good and right.

    Buyer beware. Lol.

    I can ” teach ” you to play guitar. I can’t teach you to be an artist in play. You couldn’t afford it because it will take as long as it takes. Subtlety and nuance are difficult to teach as they are dependent on the student. Same with passion and aggression.

    But if my only concern is ” the clock ” and how much profit I can realize, it ceases being about ” art ” and become business. Business and profit need steady increase.

    So in this case, it’s more like pick up ” instruction ” as opposed to ” arts “.

    If you have enough disposable income, you probably won’t even care.

  67. A true teacher, being paid to sit with a student and listen to him practice the same basics he has been instructed on – and clearly the kid hasn’t done anything since the last lesson – tells the payor to stop the lessons until the kid starts getting the basics down via practice. He does not upsell a more “immersive” experience. A shit teacher listens to the kid, shows a few more pointers, and signs him up for next week.

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