The Lie of Equality

Reader KFG dropped this insight in last week’s post and I thought it was very relevant to something I’ve been contemplating for a while now:

As a general principle genetic fitness is always relative to the environment. A spread of genetic traits makes a species more robust, because it will have individuals better suited for survival in a greater range of environments.

There’s more than one breed of working dog because no one is “better.” Each has its specific strengths, paid for with corresponding weaknesses. A terrier is to small to hunt wolves, but you’re not going to stuff a wolfhound down a badger hole.

This was a great analogy. It’s also one of the primary reasons I believe the egalitarian equalist narrative is a deliberate lie with the hoped-for purpose of empowering people who cannot compete, or believe they have some plenary exclusion from competing in various aspects of life. One of the primary selling points of egalitarian equalism for men is the idea that they can be excluded from the Burden of Performance.

There is no such thing as ‘equality’ because life doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

The tests that a chaotic world throws at human beings is never equal or balanced in measure to our strengths to pass them. Equality, in the terms that egalitarian equalists are comfortable in defining it, implies that that every individual is equally matched in both value and utility within a totality of random challenges. Aside from this being patently false, it also demerits both strengths and weaknesses when that individual succeeds or fails at a particular challenge as a result of their individual character.

This is ironic in the sense that it provides easy, repeatable, excuses for a person’s successes or failures. If someone wins, well, we’re all equal so that person’s strengths which led to the success can be passed off as a result of assumed or circumstantial ‘privileges’ that made them better suited to their challenges – rarely is their hard work recognized, and even then, it’s colored by the overcoming of a presumed-unequal adversity that grants them ‘privilege’. If they fail, again, we’re all equal, so the failure is proof of a deficit, or a handicap, or a presumed repression of an equal person in a state of baseline equal challenge.

Individual Exceptionalism

One of the longest perpetuated cop outs (I should say paradoxes) that equalists cling to is the notion that People are People; that everyone is a unique individual (snowflake) and as such there is really no universally predictable method of testing character or knowing how a particular sex will respond to various challenges. It’s all random chance according to the individual’s socially constructed character and their capacity to be a ‘more evolved’, higher-thinking being.

On the surface this all-are-individuals notion may seem the antithesis of the ‘equality’ narrative that equalists cling to, but it is part of a cognitive dissonance all equalists struggle with. This approach is a means to standardizing individuality, so no scientific evidence that might find patterns of an evolved ‘nature’ of a person – or in our Red Pill case, a sex – can be predicted. It’s the hopeful cancellation of reams of empirical evidence that show how influential our biologies and inborn predispositions are. This ‘higher order’ individualism is always touted so the equailist mindset can claim that the exception to the rule disqualifies the overwhelmingly obvious general rule itself.

“We’re all exceptions to the rule.” – Carl Jung

“…and when we’re all special, no one will be.” – Syndrome

This fallacy is where we get the NA*ALT (not all ____ are like that) absolution of the most unflattering parts of human nature. Not All Women Are Like That is standard feminine-primary boilerplate for women and sympathizing men (White Knights) who’d rather we all ignore the aspects of female nature that shine a bad light on what are easily observable truths about their behavior and the motives behind them. The social convention relies on the idea that if there is even one individual contradiction to the generalization (always deemed an ‘overgeneralization’) then the whole idea must be wrong.

Of course, this individual exceptionality rule only applies to the concepts in which equalists have invested their egos in. When a generality proves an equalist’s ego-investment, that’s when it becomes an ‘endemic’ universal truth to their mindset. A binary over-exaggeration of this effect is the reflexive response for concepts that challenge their ego-investments. Thus, we see any and all of the (perceptually) negative aspects of masculinity (actually the totality of masculinity) painted as evidence of the endemic of ‘toxic’ masculinity as a whole. The individualist exceptionality in this instance is always ridiculed as ‘insecurity’ on the part of men even considering it.

The exceptionalism of the individual is always paired with some high-order consciousness, and/or the idea that anything that proves their ego-investment is “more evolved” – despite any evidence that proves the contrary – is proof of that this individual is a being who represents some evolutionary step forward. If you agree and support feminine-primacy it is ‘proof‘ that you are more ‘evolved’ than other men. Thus, the ‘more evolved’ status becomes a form of reward to the individual who aligns with the ideology. Conversely, the avoidance of being perceived as ‘unevolved’ serves as a form of negative reinforcement.

This is kind of ironic when you consider that the same equalist mindset that relies on the individualist exception is the same mindset that insists that everyone is the same; equal value, equal potential, equal purpose and equal ability. Again, the irony is that everything that would be used to establish the ‘unique snowflake’ ideology (so long as it contradicts innate strengths and weaknesses of an opposing ideology) is conveniently ignored in favor of blank-slate egalitarianism. There is a degree of wanting to avoid determinism (particularly biological determinism) for the individual in this blank-slate concept, but it also provides the equalist with a degree of feel-good affirmation that the individual is a product of social constructivism. So, we get the idea that gender is a social construct and, furthermore, that blank-slate individual is ‘more evolved’ to the point of redefining gender for themselves altogether. Even when that ‘individual’ is only 4 years old and hasn’t the capacity for abstract thought enough to make a determination.

To be an egalitarian equalist is to accept the cognitive dissonance that the individual trumps the general truth and yet simultaneously accept that the individual is just the blank-slate template of anyone else, thus negating the idea of the individual. It takes great stretches of belief to adhere to egalitarian if-then logic.

I apologize for getting into some heady stuff right out the gate here, but I think it’s vitally important that Red Pill aware men realize the self-conflicting flaw in the ideologies of post-modern equalism. Our feminine-primary social order is rife with it. They will disqualify the generalities of Red Pill awareness with individualist exceptionalism and in the next breath disqualify that premise with their investments in blank-slate egalitarianism.

This is easiest to see in Blue Pill conditioned men and women still plugged in to the Matrix, but I also see the same self-conflicting rationales among Red Pill aware men using the same process to justify personal ideology or their inability to de-pedestalize women on whole. There’s a common thread amongst well-meaning Red Pill men to want to defend the individual natures of women who align with the Blue Pill ego-investments they still cling to. All women are like that so long as those women are granola-eating, furry-armpit feminists – ‘Red Pill Women’ then become the individual (snowflake) exceptions to the otherwise general rule because they fit a different, idealized, profile.

The Inequality of Equality

I’ve stated this in many prior threads, but, I do not believe in “equality”.

I don’t believe in equality because I can objectively see that reality, our respective environments, our personal circumstances, etc. are all inherently unequal. Everyday we encounter circumstances in life which we are eminently unequalled for in our ability to address them. Likewise, there are circumstances we can easily overcome without so much as an afterthought. Whether these challenges demand or test our physical, mental, material or even spiritual capacities, the condition is the same – reality is inherently chaotic, unfair and challenging by order of degree. To presume that all individuals have equal value in light of the nature of reality is, itself, an unequal presumption. To expect sameness in the degree of competency or incompetency to meet any given challenge reality throws at us is a form of inequality. And it’s just this inequality that equalists ironically exploit.

As KFG was stating, “each dog has it’s strengths for a given task”. One dog is not as valuable as another depending on what determines a positive outcome. What equalism attempts do to – what it has the ludicrous audacity to presume – is to alter reality to fit the needs of the individual in order to make all individuals equally valuable agents. This is the ‘participation trophy’ mentality, but it is also a glaring disregard for existential reality. Which, again, contradicts the idea of individual exceptionalism; reality must be made to be equal to accommodate the existence of the equally valuable individual.

To say you don’t believe in equality is only outrageous because it offends the predominant social narrative of today. It seemingly denies the inherent value of the individual, but what is conveniently never addressed is how an environment, condition and state defines what is functionally valued for any given instance. Like the dog bred to hunt ferrets out of their warrens is not the functional equal of a dog bred to run down prey at 45 MPH. The value of the individual is only relevant to the function demanded of it.

The default misunderstanding (actually deliberate) most equalists believe is that functional worth is personal worth. I addressed this in Separating Values:

When you attempt to quantify any aspect of human ‘value’ you can expect to have your interpretations of  it to be offensive to various people on the up or down side of that estimate. There is simply no escaping personal bias and the offense that comes from having one’s self-worth attacked, or even confirmed for them.

The first criticism I’ve come to expect is usually some variation about how evaluating a person’s SMV is “dehumanizing”, people are people, and have intrinsic worth beyond just the sexual. To which I’ll emphatically agree, however, this dismissal only conveniently sidesteps the realities of the sexual marketplace.

Again, sexual market value is not personal value. Personal value, your value as a human being however one subjectively defines that, is a definite component to sexual market value, but separating the two requires an often uncomfortable amount of self-analysis. And, as in Ms. Korth’s experience here, this often results in denial of very real circumstances, as well as a necessary, ego-preserving, cognitive dissonance from that reality.

Denial of sexual market valuation is a psychological insurance against women losing their controlling, sexual agency in their hypergamous choices.

This is where the appeal to emotion begins for the equalist mindset. It seems dehumanizing to even consider an individuals functional value. Human’s capacity to learn and train and practice to become proficient or excel in various functions is truly a marvel of our evolution. Brain plasticity being what it is, makes our potential for learning and overcoming our environments what separates us from other animals. We all have the potential to be more than we are in functional value, and this is the root of the emotional appeal of equalists. It’s seems so negative to presume we aren’t functional equals because we have the capacity and potential to become more functionally valuable. The appeal is one of optimism.

What this appeal ignores is the functional value of an individual in the now; the two dogs bred for different purposes. What this appeal also ignores is the ever-changing nature of reality and the challenges it presents to an individual in the now and how this defines value. What equalism cannot do is separate functional value from potential value.

Adopting a mindset that accepts complementarity between the sexes and between individuals, one that celebrates and utilizes innate strengths and talents, yet also embraces the weaknesses and compensates for them is a far healthier one that presuming baseline equivalency. Understanding the efficacy of applying strengths to weaknesses cooperatively while acknowledging we all aren’t the same damn dog will be a key to dissolving the fantasy of egalitarian equalism and create a more balanced and healthier relations between the sexes. Embracing the fact that condition, environment, reality and the challenges they pose defines our usefulness is far better than to assume any single individual could ever be a self-contained, self-sufficient island unto themselves – that is what equalism would have us believe.

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Albert
6 years ago

@dr zipper “what planet did you say you’re from?” I am from planet guilty white male shame filled Germany, lived in pussifed Sweden and now the diversity mania of the UK, where do you come from good sir? “ no moral superiority there lol” I am german? I have been told that we have a propensity towards this my entire life…. “that’s the most revealing thing yet in your walls of text” I stopped these particular behaviour pattern a year ago, as I didn’t like the person that the disciplinary behaviour patterns I had to observe to facilitate this outcome.… Read more »

mersonia
6 years ago

Peterson was cool before all the nerds got behind him and decided to turn him into their cult leader

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

here’s your feedback men of all types come here to figure shit out and learn; you portray yourself as being qualified to teach only because you think that advanced academic credentials will hold the same sway outside of the Ivory Tower; fuck you, you don’t get to decide that here… you have to earn it just like the other book smart and street smart guys, just like Rollo did, btw; your eagerness to jump up on the podium to shout out your truths has been seen a million times over and men in the real world don’t find it impressive… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

@mersonia “Peterson was cool before all the nerds got behind him and decided to turn him into their cult leader” I dislike Peterson’s dismissal of postmodern ideas, for his personal sense of righteousness. He uses the ‘morally deplorable’ card far too often against postmodern ideas. However, now I can add ‘nerd’ to the list of screening tests that are thrown my way and I don’t blame you, as Dr. Zipper points out: “your eagerness to jump up on the podium to shout out your truths has been seen a million times over and men in the real world don’t find… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Albert: “I suppose that is what drives me to engage with the ‘lab rats’ and now I will get shamed for not taking of my lab coat. Which is a fair criticism…I admit of having used my PhD as an argument in the points I am making.”

Bear in mind that the “lab rats” around these parts often have a higher education and a lab coat themselves.

And that Dr. Jordan Peterson is your senior.

Lecturing your grandparents on how to suck eggs isn’t going to win you a lot of Brownie Points.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

I’m late to this thread but I believe a few things must be said – if they already were, oh well. I do not have the time to wade through 300 comments… 1. The entire dialog about what classical liberals meant about equality has become dumbed down. Our liberty, the concept of it is largely based on Natural Law, and what is observed to be true in a “state of nature”. Men are equally endowed with liberty, not abilities. We are the “same” in the eyes of our creator in this regard. 2. Liberty isn’t equality. Democracy isn’t equality. 3.… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

My larger point? Our division is the Left’s victory. The white separatists play right into the hand’s of the left. It’s really just too precious. Like puppets. It’s sad and utterly anti-intellectual.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“The issue is never the issue, the issue is always the revolution.”

Which is why one of the characteristics of the left is that it eats its own children. It is explicit in Marxist revolutionary theory. A revolution that becomes the establishment ceases to be a revolution and the issue is always the revolution.

You cannot win by joining. You’re only volunteering to be in the second group to be lined up against the wall.

Rahalkar
Rahalkar
6 years ago

It is clear that this character does not know what is meant by equality. Equality means equality under the law, in the eyes of law everybody is equal. If you measure individual straits such as height, weight, intelligence, of course everybody is not equal, it is the bell curve. But even here, he seems to imply that men are somehow more intelligent than women, superior to women, that women are inferior to men. A bell curve does not mean that. Let us take the example of height. While statistically there is no difference between intelligence of men and women (in… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Rahalkar

While statistically there is no difference between intelligence of men and women (in spite of what he seems to imply)

Exactly, that’s why there are equal numbers of men and women who are Nobel prizewinners in physics in the last decade.

/sarcasm off

there are 3x as many men with IQs over 130 as women

There are also 3x as many men with IQs under 70 as women

if you ignore distribution, the numbers balance out

funny you go to statistics since it doesn’t seem to be your strong point

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

I’d also point out that those statistics are based on circa 12 year olds, where the mass IQ testing is conducted in the schools.

Girls do, in fact, develop slightly ahead of boys in that age range. Analysis of IQ tests taken by adults suggests that the IQs of females are quite settled at that point, whereas with age the entire curve of males shifts to the right.

Rahalkar
Rahalkar
6 years ago

I don’t normally read this site (rational male indeed, it is more like Nazi male or KKK male), somebody posted this article on my Facebook page. I read it and wanted to respond. But basically the writer of this article wants to set the cloak back in USA perhaps 100 years. There was strict racial segregation (because whites are obviously superior to blacks, the writer does not believe in equality), the only jobs available to women were nurses, whores and mistresses (because men are obviously superior to women, the writer does not believe in equality), gays were strictly in the… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“I don’t normally read this site . . .”

. . . but I have an informed opinion on it anyway.

” . . . it is more like Nazi male or KKK male . . .”

Yer funny.

” . . . the only jobs available to women were nurses, whores and mistresses . . .”

And an idiot.

Rahalkar
Rahalkar
6 years ago

Gamer, what I said is exactly correct, there is no difference between average intelligence of males and females. However, the distribution of the bell curves is different for the two. For females, the curve is more narrow, females tend to cluster more around the average. For males, the curve is broader, there are more males of exceptional intelligence and also are males who are mentally retarded, who are morons.

But take the average and there is not a statistically significant difference between the two.

Albert
6 years ago

@scribblerg October 1, 2017 at 6:03 am “I’m late to this thread but I believe a few things must be said – if they already were, oh well. I do not have the time to wade through 300 comments…” In order to save you the time, here is a summary of this thread so far https://therationalmale.com/2017/09/22/the-lie-of-equality/comment-page-3/#comment-217185 kfg October 1, 2017 at 4:50 am ‘Bear in mind that the “lab rats” around these parts often have a higher education and a lab coat themselves.” I wrote earlier: “I don’t see you as lab rats, I see you as fellow men, some… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

Exhibit B
https://youtu.be/547o8GDP8XI

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

Based daddy has his blindspots too . . . Telling granddaddy that the invention of . . .”

Whoosh!

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@kfg

“Yer funny.”

Radical chic humor. Only for the very mostest elitest communistes.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

But take the average

…I give you all the average shit you want. I’ll take the exceptional.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

Distribution of IQ between men and women is unequal. Men and women are mentally unequal. Averaging the IQ data is irrelevant to anything.

mersonia
6 years ago

@Albert

Don’t @me I’m not gonna read anything you type

Albert
6 years ago

@kfg ‘Whoosh!’ I stated earlier: “We are playing with disciplinary norms that are controlling people’s behaviour pattern, and ultimatley their minds. I tell you the consequences of proper disciplinary hygeneie, where the ascetic ideal that is game can be utilised to controll minds. Peterson does this by urging personal responsibility (clean your room). I think we should be more ‘bohse onkelz’ (bad uncle), in our use of our rhetoric, shaming other people into engaging with the argument and references (clean your mind) but that’s me.” The point after was a throwback to this comment: “I dislike Peterson’s dismissal of postmodern… Read more »

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
6 years ago

You cannot win by joining. You’re only volunteering to be in the second group to be lined up against the wall.

Exactly. I’ve always wondered why some men go with “maybe they’ll kill me last” as the rationale for capitulation.

Albert
6 years ago

@kfg “Lecturing your grandparents on how to suck eggs isn’t going to win you a lot of Brownie Points”

https://youtu.be/DBKLKMsR2ls

Why do it for brownie points? The ascetic ideal of positive masculinity in joerg seems rewarding in and of itself to me.

Albert
6 years ago

@Lost Patrol
‘You cannot win by joining. You’re only volunteering to be in the second group to be lined up against the wall.’

That’s just MGTOW
https://youtu.be/_v7htvkqU_I

Albert
6 years ago

@’peterson was cool

Foucault had game before it was a thing

https://youtu.be/3wfNl2L0Gf8

Who is the ‘nerd’ in that debate?

Before you lash out, explain how Chomsky position on inate structures is different from Peterson’s ideas about personality. Foucault has a point

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

you’re trying too hard with the exclusive clique approach…. “play my game and I’ll let you know if you’re good enough” attempt to dominate and place yourself in the role of arbiter you’re either in high school, a bitch, or fucking socially stunted; I’ve ruled out troll cuz unless you’ve found a good source for this sort of thing you’re not original enough… that would be yet another person’s idea taken as a prop for your own superiority complex; regurgitation isn’t much of a skill, boy no doubt you’re a smart boy so realize at some point when you get… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

SQUIRREL!!!!!!!!!

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

I know blax, but I do it in the name of science

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Dr. Z

Be careful. I understand that Thomas Dolby was blinded by science at one point.

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

just 2 hours ago I was giving my 11yo lectures on 80s music supported by youtube vids… got all the way thru Michael Jackson but hit a wall with Jermaine & Pia; Dolby would have been the better intro to quality electronic tunes lol

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

Traversable is a better reference than the Weekly World News, but nowhere near as reliable as The Enquirer. Teal Deer does a better job:

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

fuck me, kfg skips right over the carpet bombing and goes straight to the nukes

might I suggest this as a chaser to his video:

https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-47/#comment-217510

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“fuck me, kfg skips right over the carpet bombing and goes straight to the nukes” Well the mouse experiment was a Red Pill in a nutshell for sure. And not totally surprising that the problem was related to the General Social Retardation of the entire population. A non-stop downward spiral. (F. Roger Devlin pukes in the back of his throat a little….) Because of uncontrolled Social Interaction. Pretty much the premise of the movie Idiocracy. https://youtu.be/YwZ0ZUy7P3E Quotes from the KFG video: Several Similarities between the experiment and Human Behavior: -Females becoming increasingly aggressive and taking over masculine roles. -The disappearance… Read more »

YOU KNOW WHO
YOU KNOW WHO
6 years ago

Isn’t the IQ of society generally increasing SJF?

Rollo I tagged you on PPD! 😛

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“Isn’t the IQ of society generally increasing SJF?” The big truth is that IQ doesn’t matter as much as wisdom. And wisdom has no correlation with IQ. (I divined that from a JBP video, hearing comments from Rollo, Blaximus, Ton, HABD and Sentient.) IQ has not as much import as wisdom and wise choices. Choose wisely motherfuckers (in a Hand Moody tone of voice). The bigger populations of humans get, the more they get away from their firmware that was developed Evo-psych-wise to operate in groups (out-of-Africa anthropology wise) of smaller tribes, the more we see what happened in the… Read more »

YOU KNOW WHO
YOU KNOW WHO
6 years ago

Wow thats a super detailed response SJF xD But interesting, thanks. And I do agree, that wisdom is more important than IQ. A lot of the worlds highest IQ people lack wisdom, I think.

Not sure if you guessed who this is :/ But anyway, your response was quite nicee and informative! Thanks

Are you on reddit SJF?

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

“Are you on reddit SJF?”

Nein, Emily. (I see you two fingers to my eyes, two fingers to yours…)

I haven’t thought of a good moniker for reddit yet nor a good reason to join. Heheh, one of my reasons for my reluctance. So sorry for you trying to use me to get to Forge.

MRP reddit has been very good too me, but I think my receiving it has been better than my giving to it.

Thanks for participating, though. You get a participation trophy for sure.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

What does “Rollo I tagged you on PPD! ” mean you little shit, you?

Albert
6 years ago

@ dr zipper “you’re trying too hard with the exclusive clique approach…. “play my game and I’ll let you know if you’re good enough” attempt to dominate and place yourself in the role of arbiter” If rollo is correct with his attitude of “always go back to game” THAN everything is game, including this conversation (hence why ped pillers get shamed as autists). What I have been doing over these past 300 comments is to apply academic peer review standards, rhetoric and structure to the conversation here in order to tease out the argument. The replies where formulated in the… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

The reason why I think this thread already can have the potential for a good scientific article, is because what they revealed about male communication discourse. The shaming tactics that are enforced by MUH TRUTH!!! MGTOW’S for example, are the equivalent of female solipsism (my subjective perception upon reality is the only thing that matters!). So why not enforce “positive masculinity” by enforcing speech codes on the discourse: For example, ASD: AR can indeed act very gamma. Best not to engage him when he starts doing that. So much of what he knows just ain’t so, especially about philosophy of… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

kfg October 1, 2017 at 4:50 am ‘Bear in mind that the “lab rats” around these parts often have a higher education and a lab coat themselves.” SJF October 1, 2017 at 7:31 pm Well the mouse experiment was a Red Pill in a nutshell for sure. Dr. Zipper ‘your desire to be a snowflake, that’s why you try so hard to work the men on this site…” So my revolutionary suggestion is merely that if the lab rats in their will (desire) to fight back, why not do it in a positive masculine organised fashion. That’s what the fascists… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

At the start of the controversy in the moderated group sci.physics.research, Igor Bogdanov denied that their published papers were a hoax,[32] but when asked precise questions from physicists Steve Carlip and John Baez regarding mathematical details in the papers, failed to convince any other participants that these papers had any real scientific value. New York Times reporter George Johnson described reading through the debate as “like watching someone trying to nail Jell-O to a wall”, for the Bogdanovs had “developed their own private language, one that impinges on the vocabulary of science only at the edges.”[6] do the mice want… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

Look in stead of us here on this blog continuing in our pissing competition of who is the smartest (i.e. has the most references) there is nothing stopping any of us from submitting an article to an journal in the area of expertise. Just write up a text with the following structure 1. First step, think of a title. For this article that I can visualize i imagine something like ”the trust economy of online ecosystems” 2. Have I chosen the most appropriate journal? For the article I think of I would go in some philosophy of science kind of… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Shit.

Wildman and Emily.

Of course.

Albert
6 years ago

@Blax yes, “positive masculinity” is at the core of every decision of the individual, as such it shots through all of our actions, thoughts and how we are perceived (leading by example). By “disciplining” this ideal, we men literally can bend the fabric of reality as other men see value in our little “cliff notes” of the game that we’ve become good at. Its the beauty and the beast dynamic, hero villain dichotomy and strength/doubt dynamic that is the burden of performance.that masculinity has to deal with (women’s reproductive problem is that their reproduction window shorter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUO01FmsmMQ&t=104s even if you… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“4. The fourth step would be now submit to a journal 5. Would be to do the peer review 6. Do the final editing that is required for publication” This is not correct. 4 is optional. One may proceed directly to 8. 5: Jury for publication 7: Publication. 8: Peer review I know you have stated it in the common perception (as in the video), but this common misperception is a chief reason why the field of scientific inquiry (not the same thing as Science) is in such a shambles and people, including scientists, and even philosophers of science, can… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

This is a new bot I think.

pinelero
pinelero
6 years ago

Albert has traffic to your blog increased yet?

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

”the trust economy of online ecosystems”

https://infogalactic.com/info/Kuro5hin

Slashdot, which inspired Rusty’s experiment in the trust economy of online ecosystems and was in turn back influenced by it, might also be a useful source of data.

Albert
6 years ago

Nope, why should it? Ideas are tested by action. You write about it, above is the recipe, the comments of this thread are the empirical material for your case study.

I have the same excuses as A Random Guy

Albert
6 years ago

kfg, perfect, there you have a article template you guys can copy. Just get writing. Use the research that underlies this Wikipedia post a template of how to narrate your article

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@kfg

I’m sure you saw this:

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago
Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

“If you want to be a rebel and break the rules, make sure you win” Marco Pierre White. If a dork like me ( WITH the help of friends, i have 4 publications by now) or Alan Sokal can write an article like this, anyone on this blog that is worth their salt should be able with the recipe provided above. @kfg If anyone did that, what would it matter if the peer group is a few esoteric social scientists or the public in general? You can have the title (the moral economy) here is where I took that from… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@ASD:

Not that specific article, but I am familiar with the material. Nothing in it is, or ever has been, anything of a secret. I note that the article was written by a geologist, not a physicist.

It has always seemed evident to me that without Einstein, Poincaré or one of that lot would have got there in not too many further years.

Einstein claimed ignorance of the work of Lorentz, which, while it may strain credulity a bit, is at least plausible. The transforms can be derived from Maxwell’s equations without reference to the Michelson-Morley experiment.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Rollo: “If you actually took the time to familiarize yourself with what I write . . .”

To Rahalkar the issues are not the issue.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Kfg

Eddie VanHalen said in an interview once, that he never really listened to Hendrix, and that he’d pretty much discovered the hammering technique on his own.

Years later he recanted. Ozzie Osbourne made fun of him for years afterwards.

Myself, I had a couple of t-shirts emblazoned with the phrase ” Eddie Who?? “.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Blaximus: “I had a couple of t-shirts emblazoned with the phrase ” Eddie Who?? “.”

I was a “Lenny Who?” guy.

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

you just watch your fuckin mouth blax, blasphemer!

of course he didn’t invent it, been around for hundreds of years if you count stringed instruments in general:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7M8L1rAUsI&t=1m27s

he did, however, take it to new levels within the rock realm and pushed the technique itself; this is what douchebag albert misses…. standing an others’ shoulders not to make yourself appear taller, but to reach closer to what has yet to be attained

also check out Stanley Jordan to see it taken to another level

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

For those who might wish to read along at home:

Drosophila and Evolutionary Genetics: The Moral Economy of Scientific Practice; Robert E. Kohler

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/007327539102900401?journalCode=hosa

Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  kfg

@kfg thanks, much appreciated! I couldn’t find it from my smartphone.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago
Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Dr. Z

Met Jordan on numerous occasions. Amazing skills, very, very odd guy. My dad played in a style similar to Jordan’s.

Lol, I got yelled at a lot when I explained what Eddie Who? Meant. Eddie was a very competent player, no doubt. Commercialism sure helps.

Tony mcAlpine was much better. Malmstien too.lol. I accepted that I’m a blasphemer.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

… Steve Van…. Joe Satriani…. Adrian Belew….. Steve Howe…. Trevor Rabin….

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Spell check…. Steve VAI.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Albert: “If anyone did that . . .” Hold it right there. Pronoun trouble. ” . . . what would it matter if the peer group is a few esoteric social scientists or the public in general?” If your thinking were more concise and cohesive, you might realize that that is the question I have been lining up to ask you. If that is the point you have been leading up to, why didn’t you just say so? Then I could have replied,”None. Duh. What’s more, it doesn’t matter whether it’s published in a “peer reviewed” journal or on an… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  kfg

@kfg See how my crappy English is letting us down… Anyway, there is a way why this matter. It would help guys who are really good at articulating, but bad at thinking by providing them with a framework that is not FI, so you can argue not like a little bitch https://youtu.be/vlzHNY2SWps But rather like a man that is well grounded in his frame, that shouts his version of the truth so loud that anyone will listen, like you drunk bad uncle https://youtu.be/zKuFMbcmbnU Google translation Boehse Onkelz “HOUR OF THE WINNER You bear the humiliation, with a smile on your… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@Albert I lost your line of thought along the way. What exactly are you striving to articulate on The Rational Male about inter-sexual dynamics? It’s lost on me in your wall of words and cites. As as you try to hang out here, keep in mind that you are new to a primarily male space in which your participation is on a hierarchy of merit. What you bring to the discussion, not how you fancy yourself. Not just how academically rigorous you are. It matters what the content of your comments are. Sorry, but I’ve totally lost what you are… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  SJF

@SJF That was the initial idea behind taking time off and summarising these comments 300+ and writing it up as an essay. This way I could ‘find you’ in my argument again. At the moment I am far too incoherent to be able to do that. As it stands now, that wouldn’t be after Christmas (going moose hunting next week!). Would that work for you? I could send you a 3000 word essay were I summarised the point of this rant? The reason why I threw this idea about the article out there, was because I can’t see anything stopping… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Blax

Tony mcAlpine was much better. Malmstien too.lol.

Yngwie was amazing… but listenable to for no more than 10 minutes at a time. Meanwhile I can gladly sit through a three hour set from Joe B.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ Sentient

I agree. Yngwie didn’t really make ” listening ” music in the traditional sense. Lol, my dad could only stomach him in very small bites. But for speed and accuracy and tonality with a high degree of technicality, he was way up there.

Hard to groove to though. Lol.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Wildman.. Er… I mean ” Albert “, time to give it a rest now.

Emily, long time no see. Go fuck yourself.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

@Blaximus

Albert is not Wildman. Major style differences, for sure he’s a gradual student.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

“It’s lost on me in your wall of words”

lol

@blax

“you know who” = mouse scroll…no need to comment

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

sent & blax – okay, now I’ll whip mine out for measurement:

first concert I ever attended was AC/DC…. Malmsteen was the opener and I’d not heard of him yet….. made me want to go chop off my fingers; he’s like The Flash doing neurosurgery

one of my guitar teachers from looooonngg ago was himself a direct student of Satriani; those fuckers seem to get perverse pleasure from getting a student to tie his own fingers in knots… some of the hardest shit ever except maybe improv, which is hard for different reasons

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

emily slut

Why do people always assume so much about me?????

Because you demonstrate so much to them…

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Albert:

The Rahalkar thingy did not hurt or anger me. It amused me. I responded as I did because I have seen that movie already. I know where it goes and it’s poorly written. It volunteered itself to be outside the normal rules of discourse, because it had no interest in discourse, or veracity.

It was only here to get a rush from calling us fucking scum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mprqvuUS_Ho

That said, the butch chick in that video you posted did do better the second time.

Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  kfg

@blax My labcoat stays on its hook on the wall now and I am packing up the podium as we speak. My mental health is seriously been a strained and I need my marbles for my supervisor meeting tomorrow. Will be the last official meeting before my viva (I suppose this stress has triggerd my mania). @kfg Yes, this is what happens when you fight with the soilders. However, see what happens when Peterson fought with the generals https://youtu.be/JDvj6DQd93o The arguments of the generals are as empty as the ones of the soilders. However they hold the strings, as such… Read more »

freezeforcer
6 years ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940940/Woman-hid-body-unwanted-baby-drain-jailed.html

Feminism and the narrative pedalled to women are to blame for this!

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

ASD

Been telling Emily to go fuck herself for years. No need to break the tradition.

It’s heartfelt after all.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
6 years ago

@Albert

You’re staring into the abyss. At some point you’ll have to just accept that it’s really there.

“The reason why I threw this idea about the article out there, was because I can’t see anything stopping you guys doing the same.”

That’s ok. You’ll get why that isn’t important if stay here long enough.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Albert
The reason why I threw this idea about the article out there, was because I can’t see anything stopping you guys doing the same. This has been done before

“This has been done before”. What effect did it have?

For sure you are an academic, your naive faith in “published peer review” makes that clear.

Sure hope you did a better job of literature review on your PhD topic than you did on androsphere topics. Because you do not know what you don’t know.

scribblerg
scribblerg
6 years ago

@Rahalkar – How does one cross a river an average of 4 feet deep? What use does knowing the average depth provide? @Forge – You are banging @Emily? Dang, I knew someone here would. Just wish it was me, I’ve discovered Emily’s type. She’s a “brat”, turns out that’s my favorite kind of submissive young woman. The difference between a bitch and a brat is that while the brat complains a lot, she doesn’t really mean, she just wants attention and someone to pat her on the head. She’s actually sweet underneath the nonsense. Whereas a bitch is truly mean,… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

the worst kind of ignorance is the kind that doesn’t believe it is

Albert
6 years ago

@Yollo Comanche My supervisor thinks the same: “1. You get massively carried away by an unwarranted claim [retracter] will lead to the collapse of the Enlightenment / norms of scientific enquiry. • The method of [retracted] an [retracted] to be based on a high quality piece of scientific research! • Your argument is over-egged • I think it would be better to talk of a [retracted]. • Stress instead the Performative (Lyotard – The Post modern Condition) • Fore sure conclude that research will inevitably become more extrinsically focussed, with research that just has intrinsic value marginalised (and maybe discuss… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

The Postmodern Condition was influential.[4] However, Lyotard later admitted that he had a “less than limited” knowledge of the science he was to write about, and to compensate for this knowledge, he “made stories up” and referred to a number of books that he hadn’t actually read. In retrospect, he called it “a parody” and “simply the worst of all my books”.[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Postmodern_Condition

I don’t like sloppy second…

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

the potential is there, but which horse to jump on for this race?

https://fee.org/articles/imf-head-predicts-the-end-of-banking-and-the-triumph-of-cryptocurrency/

the money shot (hehe):

“But if these banks were to become less relevant in the new financial world, and demand for central bank balances were to diminish, could monetary policy transmission remain as effective?”

this is more the question than any techno limitations; in plainspeak: “how can the powers-that-be retain control of the marionette strings?”

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“Poet Frederick Turner writes that, like many post-structuralist works, The Postmodern Condition “has not worn well.” However, he sees it more readable than other post-structuralist works, and credits Lyotard with covering “a good deal of ground in a lively and economical fashion.””

Here’s your participation medal.

” . . . central elements of the postindustrial economy . . .”

People who have no idea where their Cherry Garcia comes from.

“In sociology, the post-industrial society is the stage of society’s development when the service sector generates more wealth than the manufacturing sector of the economy.”

Q.E.D.

YOU KNOW WHO
YOU KNOW WHO
6 years ago

Awwww Blaxy that’s just unecessarily mean 🙁

I knonw yall secretly like me. (especially Rollo, which is why he was trying to explain stuff to me at first rather than just banning me, which I appreciate!)

But no one answered my question :/ Is Liz here?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

God Damnit all!!!!

I just KNEW it was gonna happen as soon as Emil-bitch showed up.

http://chicbyjanssen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/34036bs-Pedestal-Classic-2-1500×1500.jpg

Was counting down the minutes.

…. fuck

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Blaximus, where’s the rest of the grand piano?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ AR

Stick around. The Super White Knight will probably be bringing it shortly.

Albert
6 years ago

@blax 3000 words is readable. If you volunteer to provide feedback that would be highly appreciated

@kfg

This is why I cited Kirby

[16] The sixteenth link is an essay by Alan Kirby where he basically contest that current postmodern ideas have run their course. You can only ever analyse the narratives of culture for so long until you have to take responsibility for your own action. The game that postmodernism has brought to society has turned society into short-sighted brutish behaviour. The “game” of postmodern to add something constructive to the conversation is passé

https://philosophynow.org/issues/58/The_Death_of_Postmodernism_And_Beyond

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

I can’t believe I’m gonna post up and RSD video….

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKbiL-CZ7tA&w=854&h=480%5D

Lol.

Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  Blaximus

So that’s a no?

Albert
6 years ago

These are the people that use the equality people to justify their bad behavior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDOJWzF_trI

note the nice mansion in the background, so I would guess what we have here is a spoiled mouse gone rouge… tragic

also the phone call is interesting (other side of the country?)

Chump No More
Chump No More
6 years ago

It’s a “I have zero fucks to give for your pedantic ramblings” no.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Blaximus
I can’t believe I’m gonna post up an RSD video….

If It Saves Just One Man…

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

listen to his answer, he goes to the end with it, good stuff…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_GPAl_q2QQ&t=2h33m00s

“men test ideas and women test men” lol

Albert
6 years ago
Reply to  dr zipper

@Dr. Zipper interesting point, the female mice are organising and it’s divriving the males insane.

Revision to the title of the essay:
The moral economy of an online ecosystem: male/female dominated social organisation contrasted

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Albert
These are the people that use the equality people to justify their bad behavior

No. That’s a stupid thing to write.

Albert
6 years ago

I used the recipe i published earlier (October 2, 2017 at 4:36 am) and I present to you the shopping list that not has to be done. The moral economy of an online ecosystem: male/female dominated social organisation contrasted Problem statement / literature gap In post industrial capitalist society the internet is becoming more and more an item of everyday use. Nevertheless, it is also become more balakanised with echo chambers forming, by the mechanism of self segregation and ‘hazing’. These online ecosystems establish their own language, dominance hirachies, in jokes and shared collective knowledge hinterland all populated by different… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 years ago

Albert I used the recipe i published earlier (October 2, 2017 at 4:36 am) and I present to you the shopping list that not has to be done. You ask for a lot of free work from other men, yet it is obvious you have not yet bothered to do the literature search required for proper research. You do not know really what you are asking for, and you do not know that some of it has already been done. You are lazy and incurious, your faith in “peer reviewed research” is naive if not blind. You are like a… Read more »

Albert
6 years ago

AR so your just another ”A Random Guy’ and leave it to other people, I have heard this story before ”@A Random Guy Albert Brennaman I honestly do not understand what the problem is. I’ve commented on Independent Man’s video not some website. And as stated earlier, I have too many things to do, which are far more important than engaging in a discussion on equality. Why do I need to discuss a fantasy (i.e. equality)? You can debate it for the next century and nothing will change. The government will pander to women because they are the majority of… Read more »

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