Transitioning

As most of my readers know I’m presently editing the final draft of my third book. A very large part, almost a third, of this new book will be dedicated to Red Pill Parenting. I’ve written several series-posts about parenting from a Red Pill perspective and I felt it was an important enough topic to deserve a category itself in my sidebar links. I’ve expanded significantly upon these essays in the book as well as adding more material and some general advice for Red Pill aware men in their parenting efforts.

One thing I’m asked of from men who are Red Pill aware fathers is what to look out for and what to apply themselves to in raising a son or daughter using a Red Pill Lens. While prospectively it will give women some parenting insights, I’ve written this section with the intent of informing men about what they can expect from a feminine-primary social bent on conditioning a man’s children to assimilate to a Blue Pill mindset.

Without giving too much away, I’ve tried to express the dangers of a system of feminine-primary acculturation that contributes to what we term ‘Blue Pill Conditioning’ in the manosphere. What defines a ‘Blue Pill‘ mindset means different things to different men, but what conditions him to literally think, and invest his ego into that feminine-primary identification is initiated at a very early age. One thing I think gets lost on guys becoming Red Pill aware is just how much of his very natural-feeling sense of self is the result of a conditioning that’s taken the better part of his lifetime to develop in him.

The main reason I began developing a Red Pill parenting dialog is because it’s vitally necessary for Red Pill fathers – really any father with a sense of conventional masculinity – to come to terms with how his sons’ and daughters’ upbringing will be defined by what I call ‘The Village’ in the book. I coined this from the popular meme that “it takes a village to raise a child”, and the Village we have today is one that is dead set on instilling and normalizing a state of deliberate gender confusion – and hopefully perpetuate that state into a person’s adulthood.

The Village

This Village is a catch-all term and I mean to have it represent all of the influences a child receives in its upbringing that contributes to its Blue Pill sense of self. This includes the influences of media, popular entertainment, academia, their pre and grammar school education, popular culture that actively seeks to instill its own ideological base, etc. These are fairly recognizable sources of the Village’s systemic influence, but it’s also important to understand that this influence will be reinforced by your child’s peers, their Village family and relatives.

‘The Village’ will raise your kids if you don’t. You will be resisted, you will be ridiculed, you will be accused of every thought-crime to the point of being dragged away to jail for imparting Red Pill awareness to them (in the future I expect it to be equated with child abuse). The Village will teach your boys from the most impressionable ages (5 years old) to loath their maleness, to feel shame for being less perfect than girls and to want to remake their gender-identity more like girls – to the point that transitioning their gender to girls’ will be the norm.

The Village will raise your daughters to perpetuate the same cycle that devalues conventional masculinity, the same cycle that considers a father’s presence as superfluous and their sacrifices as granted expectations. It will raise your daughters to over-inflate their sense of worth with unmerited confidence at the expense of boys as their foils. It will teach them to openly embrace Hypergamy as their highest personal authority (publicly and privately) and to disrespect anything resembling masculinity to be less than some silly anachronism or reverse it into being all about men’s insecurities.

The good news is that for all of these efforts in social engineering, the Feminine Imperative is still confounded by basic biology and the psychological firmware evolved into us over millennia. That basic root reality is your greatest advantage as a father. If there’s one underlying truth upon which to base your parenting it’s this; children are still motivated by evolved influences that are relatively predictable. Begin from the root truth that we evolved our psychology and our behaviors from intergender complementarity that made us the preeminent species on this planet. It takes a global Village to distort this by teaching failed notions of egalitarian equalism.

Useful Tools – Blue Pill Fathers

Although the Village would assert its influence to be the primary one in your child’s life, and although it would have women believe that father’s are both necessary when convenient and superfluous, father’s are not without their uses. The Feminine Imperative (by way of the social system of the Village) needs fathers to help reinforce its feminine-primary influence in their children’s lives. Thus, Blue Pill fathers must also carry the feminine-primary water in their parenting. They must be taught to believe that parenting a daughter is preferable to parenting a son:

I realize that everything I could do with a boy I can do with my daughters (i.e. play basketball, teach them how to throw a punch, and play in the dirt). Yes, I know that’s a big fat “duh” for many of you, but I’m a recovering knucklehead with minimal relapses, so please humor me. And yes, I’m going to teach them much more than those three things – but I promise you that I will teach them those three things.

The Feminine Imperative needs men to constantly reaffirm the fallacies of egalitarian equalism, but it is The Village that needs a father to instill them into the minds of their own flesh and blood as well as those of other fathers. The meme is always a pretense of gender-neutral equity, but the latent purpose is one of devaluing the very existence of boys, and, by extension, conventional masculinity.

And this is the crux of the effort to enlist fathers in the system of the Village; masculinity and maleness are always portrayed as problems to be solved – the solution always being more feminine identification. The main goal of the Village is to destroy and redefine conventional masculinity in a way that only benefits the feminine.

I realize that being “girly” is just a myth. What does that mean, anyway? Would my kid be less girly if she dressed up as Spider-Man for Halloween instead of a princess? (and that’s exactly what she did, by the way). Would she be less girly if she wanted to tackle little boys on the football field instead of taking ballet classes? Not to me.

This is precisely the degree of gender obfuscation the Village requires fathers to endorse. The squid ink here is the idea that masculine and feminine, boys & girls, male and female are all one, undifferentiated whole; in fact the old ideas of gender differences that brought the human race to where it is today, we are taught, were nothing more than “myths”. The underlying note is that girls are the functional equals of boys, but girls have the social and sexual advantage of being female.

The social narrative of the Village, the one it needs fathers to internalize and parrot back, is one of Fempowerment, but simultaneously one of male disempowerment. The idea then evolves into a sense of conventional masculinity being a defect of men; men are just unperfected women who are in need of women (or their daughters’) innate correction.

The idea here is that men with daughters make for better men” as defined by the Feminine Imperative and approved by The Village. What Red Pill fathers need to acknowledge in this that their sons will be taught that their maleness is inherently flawed. All of the attributes and evolved instincts that make him a boy will be connected with his masculinity being “toxic”.

“Toxic Masculinity” or “Hyper-masculinity” are common tropes in the Village. We’ve gotten to a point that any form of traditional, conventionally masculine behaviors are now equated with a character flaw in men. So thoroughly has the Village distorted the old books definition of manhood that anything resembling a characteristically masculine behavior is, by default, an act of ‘hyper’ or “over-the-top” masculinity. This, of course, makes characterizing those acts as toxic, or ridiculous.

The Preferred Gender

In my essay, Environmental Stresses I added this quote from the book The Red Queen:

Contrary to popular belief a preference for boys over girls is not universal. Indeed, there is a close relationship between social status and the degree to which sons are preferred. Laura Betzig of the University of Michigan noticed that, in feudal times, lords favored their sons, but peasants were more likely to leave possessions to daughters. While their feudal superiors killed or neglected daughters or banished them to convents, peasants left them more possessions: Sexism was more a feature of elites than of the unchronicled masses.

[…]Lower down the social scale, daughters are preferred even today: A poor son is often forced to remain single, but a poor daughter can marry a rich man. In modern Kenya, Mukogodo people are more likely to take daughters than sons to clinics for treatment when they are sick, and therefore more daughters than sons survive to the age of four. This is rational of the Mukogodo parents because their daughters can marry into the harems of rich Samburu and Maasai men and thrive, whereas their sons inherit Mukogodo poverty. In the calculus of Trivers-Willard, daughters are better grandchildren-production devices than sons.

These quotes are a part of a much more in depth look at how both environmental and social stresses contribute to a ‘preferred gender’ dynamic in both animal populations and human social structure. As I was reviewing this book recently it hit me how western cultures have blatantly been endorsing ‘female’ as the preferred gender for the past 60-70 years now.

I realize this assertion grates on popular culture’s sensibilities when it comes to gender, but as I stated in that essay, at no other time in human history has it been more advantageous to be female than today. Whether you want to argue that assertion from socioeconomic, education, gender identity, social ‘progress’ or any other metric, women in this era enjoy a condition that places their sex as the primary one in terms of social advantage. Women today live in a social condition that advantages, ensures their relative successes and directly or indirectly provisions for their personal security while simultaneously seeking to handicap being male and ridiculing the conventionally masculine.

In many a prior essay I’ve made the assertion that this effort in feminizing boys – in “perfecting” them with feminization – has been a long effort in social engineering. And while I still believe this is true, I think that in recent years the adaptive response to this preferred gender dynamic for Blue Pill fathers, men and boys is now an effort in socially engineering boys to imagine their gender identity as being transitionable to that of girls. Needles to say this push for gender self-reassignment has been embraced by the Village.

Olivia loves Disney’s Frozen princesses, all things sparkly, bright tights and ballet. During her family’s Cuban vacation last summer, she danced in the children’s “mini-disco” before the evening shows, twirling and leaping across the stage. One night another guest turned to her parents, exclaiming, “Your daughter is the girliest girl I’ve ever seen!”

Olivia was born a boy.

She “socially transitioned” from male to female, in nursery school last year. She was four years old.

Today, she attends kindergarten at a Montreal primary school. Only her teachers and the school board know she is transgender, for now.

Olivia (not her real name to protect her identity) is part of a growing phenomenon that is being celebrated but which is also raising strong emotions: an increasing number of children as young as preschoolers appearing at gender identity-clinics across the country, convinced they are of the opposite sex.

The new push to normalize transgender acceptance relies solely on the presumption that gender identity is a social construct rather than influenced by biological, and evolved psychological dynamics inherent in both sexes. The idea again comes back to the egalitarian presumption of a blank-slate equalism and a rejection of gender as a binary determination. Yet in over 90% of transgender identity shifts we see it is boys who opt to “become” female in their self-reassignment. Left to their own non-abstract decision making – and reinforced by Blue Pill parents and the Village – boys will, in the binary, shift to a female / feminine gender identity in overwhelmingly greater numbers than girls shifting to a male / masculine identity.

I would argue that this greater transgender preference for boys is a direct result of the Preferred Gender dynamic and reinforced by the Village conditioning boys for it while normalizing the idea of it in a larger cultural respect. This is the next step in cultural feminization of boys and men that began in the touchy-feely days of men needing to “get in touch with their feminine sides.”

It is no longer enough for boys just to be educated in a feminine-correct manner. It is no longer enough to teach them to despise the gender they were born into, “hoping their penises will fall off”, and it’s no longer enough to condition them to defer to girl’s perfectness. Boys must literally be transitioned to be girls from as young an age as 4 years old.

This is the degree to which the Village and the Feminine Imperative will go to condition future men into a Blue Pill mindset. I outline this in the upcoming book, but this is vitally important for Red Pill fathers to understand because these will be the ‘boys’ they may eventually need to mentor and unplug from their very early psychological damage. Many voices in the manosphere call this damage child abuse and it’s easy to understand why; this damage works on a boy’s most intimate part of his sense of self.

Red Pill fathers need to recognize this perversion of conventional masculinity for what it is and protect their sons (as well as daughters) from it while still anticipating the fall that will result from the “men” this re-engineering of gender will create.

 

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anon
anon
4 years ago

What about the “non-binaries”? Think of the non-binaries!

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/transgender-army-veteran-1st-in-us-to-change-sex-to-non-binary-1.414223

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

There are two sexes. Although there are methods that enhance and/or suppress the appearance and expression of one sex or the other, there is currently no method for transitioning from one to the other. No matter what methods of modification are used, the individual is still fully indentifiable as their original biological sex.

The medical technology to transition from one sex to the other is essentially the same that is required to transition from human to chimpanzee.

Gender is a jargon term of the gender theorists to mean a subjective state which is self-identified and is not sex.

stuffinbox
4 years ago

Any four year old has far more to learn about their surroundings than any interest in sexual position or disposition.

Tonka trucks or dolls may be a decision present company considered.But gender trans? give me a break! Either you pee standing or sitting this is the extent of a four year olds concern in this matter.Anything more is seed planted by a sick fool.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

BOT Spam going on. That’s all I got to say about Aimee.

stuffinbox
4 years ago

Totally agree SJ. GONG the troll.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Never seen that before…..

anon
anon
4 years ago

There was a knock on my door about 10am one morning. There were two guys standing there. I asked what I could do for them. They explained they were Jehovah’s Witnesses and asked if they could come in for a few moments. Sure, why not. I let them in and offered them a seat. They sat there for several awkward minutes glancing back and forth at me and each other. I asked them what they wanted to do. One of the guys look at me nervously, “Fuck if I know. We never got this far before.” I’m guessing Amy has… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

One of the guys look at me nervously, “Fuck if I know. We never got this far before.” I’m guessing Amy has never gotten this far before. Sometimes you just have to observe chat bots for what they are (in real time): alleged artificial intelligence not ready for prime time. For example observe Amy’s gibberish response to this: “I can see why you think you belong to me I never tried to make you think, or let you see one thing for yourself But now your off with someone else and I’m alone You see I thought that I might… Read more »

Joe K
Joe K
4 years ago

There is no Thanksgiving in this part of the world. Thanksgiving should be a great holiday. Gratitude, and all that. What is the balance between being grateful for everyone in your path and the RP reality that people are inexorably full of shit, deceitful, and wretched? I know that gratitude yields the best possible results in our personal lives, and orients the mind to maximum efficacy. I also know that giving people the benefit of the doubt is sometimes foolhardy and counterproductive. Something to mull over this Thanksgiving. I am thankful that there is no Thanksgiving in the part of… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
4 years ago

Joe K

world-istan

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@Joe K You are free to have your own Frame (your worldview). But Frame is not power. You are not actually free from all the bullshit there in the cold, impersonal 2/3rd Worldistan. If you were, your comments and the subcommunication in them would demonstrate you have more power and agency than your words actually emit. So where does that leave you in a red pill awareness world? It leaves you to do the work of further self development. To pursue your goals and get good at them. To have agency and the power to attract girls to you. What… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@Rugby Well played and on theme — the business card scene in American Psycho. I had to look that one up. It is about fear. https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-business-card-scene-in-American-Psycho-symbolize It’s meant to show the absurdity of the degree of competition between these adult men who live and work in the prestige of upper class New York society and yet are also incredibly juvenile and silly. If you look closely at the business cards in the movie they essentially all the look the same with only slight variations in texture and lettering. However, they all look the same and say the same thing. And… Read more »

SFC Ton
4 years ago

There are drug tested meets but no drug free meets

Ie, the guy who wins the drug free meet is the one who does the best job of masking his drug use

Joe K
Joe K
4 years ago

@SJF That’s mostly constructive, so I appreciate it… “You are free to have your own Frame (your worldview). But Frame is not power. You are not actually free from all the bullshit there in the cold, impersonal 2/3rd Worldistan. If you were, your comments and the subcommunication in them would demonstrate you have more power and agency than your words actually emit.” OK, but then you quote Rollo… “There is no Alpha with a side of Beta, there is only the man who’s genuine concern is first for himself, the man who prepares and provisions for himself, the man who… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@ Joe K “Is that nihilistic? You bet your ass it is LOL. That’s where I’m at – if that’s ‘wrong’ to any of you – so be it.” It is not wrong to any of us that you are choosing to be that way. It might not fit into our worldview, but that is OK and I’m not judgmental about that for you. But I don’t value nihilism. Your posts subcommunicate digs at those that are willing providers in a different red pill paradigm and comfortable with it. Digs at other red pill commenters that aren’t freaked out by… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@yareally @forge @culum @habd @pua FR at work At work. Black girl came into store. Boss noticed and told me to go help her. Talked work stuff a bit, then when into “were you at that party?” she wasn’t, as she is from out of state. Went into “girls from x are party girls” routine. Was a litle nervous, since this was at work and the girl was attractive and very much my type, easy 7. She said yeah a lot of girls were like that there. Went to look for the item she wanted. We talked a lot about… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

sorry, headed to work, puked this up. but the 7 was saysing SHE could drink 3 and barely get a buzz

Not Born This Morning
4 years ago

“The Village’ will raise your kids if you don’t. You will be resisted, you will be ridiculed, you will be accused of every thought-crime to the point of being dragged away to jail for imparting Red Pill awareness to them (in the future I expect it to be equated with child abuse). The Village will teach your boys from the most impressionable ages (5 years old) to loath their maleness, to feel shame for being less perfect than girls and to want to remake their gender-identity more like girls – to the point that transitioning their gender to girls’ will… Read more »

Joe K
Joe K
4 years ago

@SJF “Is it OK with you if OMG’s provide for their spouse and children with full knowledge of red pill reality?” Of course man, and I did give lip service to that effect (a la “All the good things OMGs have going for them”) if nothing else, then because I have no desire to be a dick to sincere men who are intending to sort things out/better themselves rather than ad hom launching which is just a fuckin’ waste of time, obviously….one of the issues that I can’t relate to though is how any RP man can believe he’s in… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“a mono-marriage/LTR that’s actually a good deal for him” IMO incentives are different in RP marriages. There’s long-term benefit in culture stabilization when releasing RP children to adults out on the streets. Just one of many reasons OMG value investing both in the rapid ROI near and delayed ROI far. Self-sustaining RP tradition, carried out through children, gives the deceased RP father a vote in future decision making. That’s force projection! The challenge of winning the long game is important to me. Force multipliers (RP raised kids) are powerful change agents. A small minority of passionate few can do a… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
4 years ago
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Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

…. marriage discussion.😶

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Joe K. Ehintellect sjf blax This is how Patriarchy 2.0 dropped round these parts this week. Tuesday – bought a vintage super car…. Lol. Right place right time. No discussion with the wife… Came up over Turkey… She looks forward to me taking for a ride in it… Wednesday – 3 of 4 daughters in kitchen from 3pm cranking out 4 different desserts… They clean the kitchen up. We all go out to a late dinner when some relatives show up. Thursday – 3 of 4 daughters in kitchen with me. They are cranking out some sides. I am prepping… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@pua @hank @culum @walawala @forge @paelleon etc For the guys sarging this weekend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5HnukNb6D8 Great infield of Tyler showing how you, as a scrubby nobody PUA with nothing to rely on but your pickup skills, can get the girls that other guys buy bottle/VIP service and shit to get. He shows how to handle those dudes and the 4 main reactions you’ll run into and strategies to use in those situations. For the alpha brahs and guys around the bottle scene like Rollo, Blaximus, etc, this is how scrubby idiots like me “take girls from richer better-looking more jacked etc”… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

(also for anyone wondering how Tyler can talk to the students without the girls noticing, Tyler has a mic so his voice comes out clear (I THINK they have fancy sound-cancelling mics that buffer out crazy loud bass etc so the voices can be heard better but not sure) but in the actual club Tyler is purposely speaking in a tonality/level that he knows girls don’t pay attention to (basically talking like a chode lol) and when he’s creepin up behind them (lol) he stays out of the line of vision of the girls hiding behind the student’s head etc,… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
4 years ago
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Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
4 years ago

What’s RSD?

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

@Sentient

Bought a 1974 cb 360 two months ago. tank being repainted now. It’s the little things.

Yes…family life…so chill.

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@Lost Patrol Real Social Dynamics. Pickup site with Tyler durden (irl Owen) Julien and others. They post free vids of how to pick up girls and they also have paid programs like Juliens PIMP and such. Scray and Yareally (esp yareally lol) often post their vids since they are an excellent free resource for illustrating his concepts. I’ve gained a lot from them, and haven’t paid those guys a penny, and don’t plan to. @Rollo Is this because they misrepresented you in that video? With the fat guy who said your books were like The Art of the Deal for… Read more »

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
4 years ago

@hank holiday

Real Social Dynamics. Pickup site with Tyler durden (irl Owen) Julien and others. They post free vids of how to pick up girls and they also have paid programs like Juliens PIMP and such.

Thanks.

stuffinbox
4 years ago

EhIntelect 74cb 350,nice. A friend up the street his dad had a machine shop in the garage,imaculate all he built were air cooled race engines,porche,vw,and loads of honda flat trackers. He could get 50hp out of a honda350. He would let me watch if i was quiet,the guy was amazing,after a paper thin bore he would fit the piston with a .002 feeler guage all through and around sometimes honing for hours on one jug till he was satisfied. Seemed like all the racers were there at one time or another. Perfectionism was contagious around that guy. The one part… Read more »

stuffinbox
4 years ago
Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Hank

No one is banned. Content videos are being removed. You can still watch them to your heart’s delight on their site, which is how it should be. Or you can watch them on YouTube.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Btw, you missed the NYC bootcamp. I was up in Yonkers for Thanksgiving and I could’ve swung by, but I don’t wanna spend hundreds of dollars to see those dudes. It’s about the money now Lebowski. Free advertising blows.

stuffinbox
4 years ago

Blax

There is nothing wrong with free advertising,just don’t park your billboard in a moratorium zone.Then when people throw eggs at it and they miss and hit the bosses ride That sign is gonna move!

MrT
MrT
4 years ago

@rollo

Lets hope you achieve what you intend. Ill have my prayers up 😉

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Rollo: I don’t quite understand the reasons for removing RSD videos.
My interpretation of your explanation is that by having those links here, it attracts the spammer bots and potentially other similar attacks to the site.

Presumably RSD is more infamous than this site and therefore the association brings unwanted attention?

Some of those videos are really good, it’s a shame.

Roland
Roland
4 years ago

The human infant biologically, morphologically, and psychologically reflects its source — the mother. Jungians (who you shit on, I know) refer to this as participation mystique, a form of religious identity between infant and mother, and more broadly, between infant and the feminine. For the female infant it is no issue to be tied into a participation mystique with her mother. The normal course of a girl’s psychological development is to mirror the mother at every step, but to learn the additive faculties of discrimination, discipline, and boundary from her father. Whether a father is present or absent, mothers and… Read more »

Andy
Andy
4 years ago

“I don’t quite understand the reasons for removing RSD videos.” +1 I watch all the videos anyway, but I can say that without a doubt I wouldn’t be where I am now without RSD. I started watching their stuff when Rollo had that post about that man in demand conference where some dude that presented made a big deal about fashion and YaReally dropped in and proved that looks don’t matter. Life changing shit for me. No joke. I just think it would be a shame if another “me” dropped by and was never exposed to their stuff. There are… Read more »

Andy
Andy
4 years ago

Actually I remember the exact video that triggered my light bulb moment. Tyler hit on this ridiculously hot chick that was about to leave in a cab, and he pulled her out and within 20 seconds she jumped into his arms and wanted to fuck him. I was like Whoa, there is something far deeper going on here than money, looks or some pickup lines. That’s an important realization.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

You can go to their site and watch.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Andy

I’ve been busy last few days, but I haven’t forgot that shit you pointed at me last thread for no reason.

In the meantime I’ll get you a fucking box of Kleenex.

FIWL
FIWL
4 years ago

@hank @pua “Most times, when you are doing things right, girls don’t really give you any sign of this. They only let you know when they DON’T like it. So if a woman ever doesn’t react to what you are doing, assume she likes it and keep pushing. If she ever doesn’t like what you are doing, she will DEFINITELY LET YOU KNOW lol.” I have a specific reference exp it happened previously. A friend i know brought her friend, I was then starting to kino everybody just to get some experience. I just kinoed her the arms and she… Read more »

FIWL
FIWL
4 years ago

@yareally @pua @hank @scray @culum @HABD You advice is definitely needed here 🙂 I ran Boyfriend destroyer on a girl i know just because i had her number and wanted to try to get an experience how it would work. She replied saying “There is no right person or a perfect match.. it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.” Does that mean she subjectively believes she is totally satisfied by the guy she is currently dating ? her most hypergamous option at the moment ? Or she is a smart girl? What to… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Re RSD… It’s been interesting to watch them lurch towards self actualization… a lot of their stuff now is about fitness, making money, developing networks… Tony Robbins light… Predict within a couple of years the goal will be to achieve a dynamic, passionate and authentic state… via The Platinum Rule… and Tyler will be married within five years. Re videos – you NOW have a bunch of increasingly in shape, fashionable, semi famous millionaires who are also massively socially proofed within the social circles and the clubs they frequent (over and over…). the “cold approach” thing has become more disingenuous… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

FIWL

well this is the type of line I often use on girls…

“it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.”

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Rollo – one non promotional post in mod.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNKWl9ohgpm

Tyler’s housemate “Big MIke”

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNNKOx-BXU4/

750k followers…

anon
anon
4 years ago

She replied saying
“There is no right person or a perfect match.. it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.”

Does that mean she subjectively believes she is totally satisfied by the guy she is currently dating ? her most hypergamous option at the moment ?

Or she is a smart girl?

What to make of this sentence ?”

She sounds like a smart girl who hasn’t become an alpha widow yet.

anon
anon
4 years ago

Are you sure that’s not an advertisement, Sentient?
It looks exactly like an advertisement.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

That’s not the post in mod…

rugby11
rugby11
4 years ago
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YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “Blog PSA: I am hereby pulling all RSD material from TRM as of now. I have come into some very reliable information that the spamming of this blog and the legitimacy I’ve built over several years is intentional.” wtf are you talking about? Did you watch that video? He’s literally showing how to go into high-end venues (like the type you run your promos at) and how to befriend (or compete with) the bottle service/VIP table dudes and take their girls, with crystal clear infield footage (which we would have KILLED for back in the early 2000s) showing EXACTLY… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Andy

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Something to contemplate…

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Fakkin’ autism, lol. I squandered A2 with a hottie (brunette, large tits on a small frame, curvy with a small butt, no tats or piercings, yummmm!) last night because I couldn’t bring myself to move to A3. She had sent her wings away and was giving me lots of hugs and her body language was focused on me and we danced a lot. Gaming myself is the hard part, lol.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“I can’t believe he even got that shit on camera that’s a fucking miracle.”

LOL

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@Sentient ““I can’t believe he even got that shit on camera that’s a fucking miracle.” LOL” Should’ve clarified: it’s not the act of doing it on camera that’s a miracle, since we do this kind of thing lots. It’s the fact that he got beautiful clear footage of a newbie bootcamp student with NO idea how to do it, to do it, showing him fucking up and getting a hostile reaction from the table guy, and then following Tyler’s EXACT instructions fixing it and then GETTING the predictable result that we keep SAYING anyone here can get, and seeing that… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

” . . . the Manosphere promotes entrepreneurship and living off the grid and building your own business, but god forbid someone actually does it right . . .”

Rollo is not ignorant of brand building.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

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RSD Luke’s blazer game…

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

I’d love to link some good hidden-cam high-quality perfect audio/lighting/etc infield from Rollo of him tearing up his bottle model events to discuss status/Hypergamy/looks/etc and for guys to learn from (undercover so he has the same low-status by default like the newbie in that video, you know, the one that any guy watching can relate to and be inspired by seeing him succeed in that clip) but until Rollo’s infield product comes out, I have to make do with what’s available and what’s available is a pretty fucking useful resource that I actively tell guys NOT to pay for. But… Read more »

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Rollo: would you be willing to clarify the reasons for the new policy on RSD videos?
From your message I don’t understand it very clearly and it seems it is not to do with Spammer bots like the recent Amy one as I had thought.

@YaReally: I imagine if Rollo doesn’t reconsider the RSD videos going forward you will soon move to a different comment section.

Maybe
https://www.trp.red/
Could you let us know here if you move? I guess we could still track where you post through the archive, but still.

anon
anon
4 years ago

I see the one above now Sentient. That makes sense. I watched the (ostensible) “cold approach” videos before they were deleted and the thing that came to mind was…I think the majority of normal people in the real world would find this environment worse than a wire brush to the privates, or a fork in the eye. And this is, as a lifestyle, is supposedly the ANSWER? But I’m awash with confirmation bias. I live in the real world, and I’m trying to envision my 18 year old son going in and doing this. I just don’t see it. (plus,… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

@Ya Really:

You’re throwing a hissy fit.

“I just didn’t think brand building was his primary purpose of this place after how much he made fun of Roosh and MMSL for it.”

And perhaps that is why you don’t understand why this doesn’t make a lick of sense.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

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Brand by Madison

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Anon

Don’t worry… Your 18yo normie son is not getting into any of these venues…

Now maybe if he had an agent and a publicist and a private banker…

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Rollo: Thanks for clarification. I would prefer the videos were allowed, but I understand your position.

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@YaReally, in the blog game, the blog owners own the frame. If they change on a dime, we can’t do anything about it other than go to wordpress.com, start a free blog using an anonymous email, and start posting about anything. So, you start this free blog, choose a free blog template that looks nice to you, then simply create a post and start typing. The only difference from what you’re doing now would be, you saying, “Rollo had a post today at [insert url] that mentioned x, let’s dissect this and here is a youtube video that shows my… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “Yep, that’s about what I expected would be your reaction” I’m accused of being a shill or member of RSD and accused of purposely trying to undermine your site by you yourself, useful content I’ve spent hours writing up for guys has been deleted/fucked up, and for some reason I’m not reacting rainbows and sunshine about that. Shocker. “If you or “Tyler” want to work out some cobranding arrangement with TRM you can both contact me directly, but there’s no fucking gravy training going on here anymore.” Dude I don’t fucking KNOW Tyler. I would be amazed if he… Read more »

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@YaReally: you linked Janka’s book for me, I asked about subway game.

Anyway, it is a big inconvenience but I think you are taking this too personally as well. No point getting annoyed about it (I recommend Stoicism).

Rollo may be paranoid but with the chances of getting doxxed etc. it pays to be paranoid.

@Rollo: for what is worth, I don’t think YaReally being a shill adds up – he spends way too much time giving advice that isn’t “monetized” in any way for that to make sense to me.

Joe K
Joe K
4 years ago

Whatever the *context*, whoever ‘YaReally’ actually is, whoever ‘Rollo Tomassi’ actually is – I have no clue. You both want anonymity, you both are proficient writers and thinkers such that you’re both widely known, and you’ve kept that anonymity AFAIK. That’s impressive… Here’s what I think this is about – the “E” word…. Ready for it?….. …..ETHICS ! Let’s set aside the prospective motivations of YaReally or Rollo Tomassi – and just focus on Owen Cook, AKA Tyler. He’s the face of RSD. He controls everything RSD. I have never met Owen and have no idea how valid his claims… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@IAS “Anyway, it is a big inconvenience but I think you are taking this too personally as well.” This is 100% personal to me. We all know he’s not talking about someone else. Dude is flat out calling me a paid shill here to undermine his blog. Like I haven’t been linking vids from a ton of companies since day one over on Heartiste. RSD just puts out daily videos and cover the range of topics. I’ll be happy to link Mystery’s latest video, oh wait, he hasn’t put out a new video in fucking forever. I’ll link some Simple… Read more »

Joe K
Joe K
4 years ago

@YaReally

You missed my point, which was that Rollo MIGHT care if Owen does shady business stuff. Especially if he *simply believes* that he does have legit word-of-mouth info pertaining to what he wrote above, even if that’s not the case (e.g. if someone were lying to him). Can’t you see that perspective?

Anyway, maybe if Rollo was willing to say ‘Yeah, I have an issue with Owen’ and YaReally were willing to say ‘OK dude, I’ll post content from any other PUA outfit going forward then’ – things could get back on track. Just a suggestion.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Joe

You missed my point, which was that Rollo MIGHT care if Owen does shady business stuff.

Throw the baby out with the bathwater. Good strategy.

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@Joe K “Can’t you see that perspective?” Except that he’s CLEARLY implying that I’m working for Tyler or profit/benefit in some way from posting RSD vids. That’s what the “you or Tyler can contact me for a promo deal” shit is about. “Anyway, maybe if Rollo was willing to say ‘Yeah, I have an issue with Owen’ and YaReally were willing to say ‘OK dude, I’ll post content from any other PUA outfit going forward then’ – things could get back on track. Just a suggestion.” If anyone can show me another PUA outfit that has infield of them in… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@theasdgamer “Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?” Personally I assumed the benefits of the reader came before the rest of those. Same way I’ll link videos from guys I don’t even like like Roosh if he puts out a video that shows something solid. All that matters to me is helping the guys who are looking to avoid being the next Elliot Rogers or George Sodini or suicide victim or sad nerd who spends 30 years dreaming of being able to get girls without having to hire a hooker to pretend she’s… Read more »

Roy Hobbs
Roy Hobbs
4 years ago

Just my 2 cents…

When my BP life was in the shitter 9ish mos ago, it was the academic content in TRM that was like a light in the darkness that kept me [mostly] sane- or at least from chewing on a bullet. But that academic light only goes so far… YaReally’s detailed explanations coupled with the RSD content showed- and continues to show- the practical applications I never understood. It would be a shame to decouple the practical from theory.

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@theasdgamer: I’d say readers benefit the most, because it saves us time. RSD posts a ton of videos and very long ones. I spent some minutes trying to find the situation YaReally is talking about on a recent video and didn’t find it yet. Better content in the comments section gives some indirect benefits to everyone though. Rollo gets more repeat visits for sure, and possible more new visits to the site (if that matters to him, he isn’t really monetizing the site beyond advertising his own books, but almost all of that content is free on the site anyway).… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago


“Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?”

In fact the better question is: who LOSES OUT more with no free RSD vids allowed here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? Me?

I can tell you which one loses out the most. By a fucking MILE. My mistake was thinking that mattered over ego wars and ad bucks.

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@IAS “@theasdgamer: I’d say readers benefit the most, because it saves us time. RSD posts a ton of videos and very long ones. I spent some minutes trying to find the situation YaReally is talking about on a recent video and didn’t find it yet.” Type “RSD tyler taxi” into YouTube, it’s the first interaction with the girl in the cab. Note Tyler’s messy hair, plain t-shirt, etc and the mindsets he’s describing (in terms of not being attached to the outcome, feeling entitled to get physical and escalate, etc). BE CAREFUL, AT THE VERY END OF THE VIDEO HE… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@IAS From that video even (part of why I have these all memorized is because when I link them I let them play in the background while I do other shit after I post lol): “Is there anything here that if I had more money, would help this girl (that he’s carrying off into an alleyway to makeout with) to be even MORE attracted? What if I was like yo girl wait hold up just so you knowwww I make moneyyyyy!! Would that help? Would it make a difference if I was better looking? Would this girl be even MORE… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@YaReally @Rollo – everyone else What just happened on this thread? I’m still crazy busy with work – unusually so for a Blitz (so not much going out or reading TRM) – but I just glanced at the comments on this thread and it seems to have gone surreal with the RSD stuff. Rollo, I have no idea why you’ve banned RSD videos. I’m sure you have your reasons and you’re not obliged to reveal them, but as I’m sure you realize, it just looks bizarre and arbitrary to those of us reading along without more details. Speaking for myself… Read more »

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@YaReally, you don’t have to make a cent man, but you have proven your desire to help other dudes, so having your own FREE BLOG THAT TAKES 5 MINUTES TO SET UP, will let you do that without having to worry about censorship or outing yourself. Everything is automatic with WordPress. if you can type into MS Word, you can run a blog. Seriously, set up time is 5 minutes, then you log in, click the button to do a new post, type, hit publish, and it’s out there. The site I created with your summary was simple to set… Read more »

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@YaReally: I don’t think anyone, Rollo included, is questioning there is tons of value in those RSD videos. Rollo just doesn’t want to be associated with them at this stage for whatever reasons. Also, I take at face value what Rollo said numerous times about your posts bringing value to the site. It doesn’t make sense to me that you are a shill, but it also doesn’t make sense to me that Rollo actually doesn’t like your content (FR breakdowns and so on). Rollo said “Look I like your input, and I think it provides a good balance of practical… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

Googling for a way to link RSD videos without increasing their view count on them (if that’s the thing that has Rollo’s panties in a twist, like that they’re getting 10 extra views from the guys here who actually click and watch the videos lol), but I can’t find a way to do that. People use archive sites to link articles without giving the site clicks/views but it looks like there’s no way to do that on YouTube. I don’t even know if that would help chill Rollo out if I could do it, but if I could I would… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@newlyaloof “so having your own FREE BLOG THAT TAKES 5 MINUTES TO SET UP, will let you do that without having to worry about censorship or outing yourself” Easier to get doxxed once you spread out past comment sections and I don’t want to come up with topics to talk about or moderate a comment section for spam etc That’s why I’ve just hung out in comment sections from the start. I’m just a part of the discussion and keeping shit in check when people make claims that the field doesn’t back up (by linking video showing the opposite infield).… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

This is how AMOG vs Gamma battles typically play out…

Illustrative

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Rollo: major thanks from me personally. I haven’t seen much from Krauser myself, and I know you have him on your blogroll so you must respect him. YaReally doesn’t always put Krauser down – there was a recent post by him where he suggested one of Krauser’s products to someone: https://therationalmale.com/2016/11/16/shes-unhaapppy/comment-page-4/#comment-179608 Also just prior to that, to me specifically, Janka at the end of this long post: https://therationalmale.com/2016/11/16/shes-unhaapppy/comment-page-3/#comment-179326 and here https://therationalmale.com/2016/11/16/shes-unhaapppy/comment-page-3/#comment-179328 where Krauser is also mentioned (if not in a positive light, at least neutral) He also routinely posts a link to a LaRuina (Gambler) clip and a few specific… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “Alright, seeing as there’s no practical way to just ban videos I’ve reinstated the old posts. And I’ll lift the ban, but I will be adding a disclaimer to TRM’s footer that state this site is not an endorsement of RSD in particular.” I can literally post at the top of any post I link RSD vids in or under each vid “TRM DOES NOT ENDORSE RSD” whenever I post if you want. Seriously, I don’t care, as long as guys see/hear what the video is teaching. “If I ban other people for spamming here with their penis enlargement… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

Thought I was going to have the last site I like on the manosphere…..

http://media.tenor.co/images/9b9114f36f6f0a994f1eed31045d5f14/raw

Also I doubt anyone from here actually purchases any of RSD shit……I mean I torrented all their products..and only watched one ( never finished it actually) I watch the free vids that ya links though.

Censorship is a bitch.

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@YaReally @Rollo, YaReally, from now on, you could simple say, “To illustrate this, check out the video labeled [insert name of video on youtube] and watch from 5 minutes to 10 minutes.” We can simply open a new tab on our own and search for that video. Hell, you don’t even have to mention RSD if their video title does from now on. You can use code, like “check out “the R guys” video called [insert video name on youtube], etc.” I could be wrong, but I think you can append the attribute “follow=nofollow” inside any url and it won’t… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@all watching californication. great show. i watched it just for pua stuff, but its actually a good show. waay more story and plot than i thought they would be. 7 or 8/10 for me so far. and also hank has a very similar style to me (go figure lol) so i will have to rewatch it specifically on the girl parts. whole show is super RP…his long time gf ditching him for the rich beta…the redhead who ends up sleeping with him even though he nuked her from orbit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWJhAOnJIzI lol. I want to do that just for the reaction… Read more »

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
4 years ago

Oh well, I don’t do pickup so I don’t mind no RSD videos, but I got to admit, they were/are mind-blowing and I greatly appreciate Yareally’s input on everything, and of course, Rollo’s too.

When I analyze things like this I always ask – “who’s got the most to win/lose”

Looks like the OMGs win…

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@rollo
Thanks man. Understand none of us would have gotten so worked up over this shit if this site wasn’t so important to us. I hope you understand where we are coming from and don’t take it personally.

Thanks again for all the shit that you do. It changed so many guys lives, mine included.

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@pua Other thing I noticed, with the redhead. How Hank Moody was wrong about a lot of his cold read (she wasn’t a cheap martha stewart, she’s a lawyer). However, he got one main thing right (that she couldn’t bag the guy she liked, and instead he married the next girl). That was ALL THAT MATTERED. She only noted that he was right on that part, and ignored the rest (though she still registered the stuff he was wrong on as taking her down a peg) yeah definitely going back over this stuff once I finish the first three seasons.… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

One last thing and then I have to go get ready for tonight: The reason I take the shilling accusations personally is because every accusation ruins the credibility of my archive. Every accusation, especially coming from *THE* ROLLO TOMASSI HIMSELF, not some random hater that just pops out to accuse me or some regular commenter who disagrees with me, but from Rollo the guy who’s name carries all sorts of Manosphere weight…every accusation lets guys who ALREADY DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT I’M SAYING or what RSD is demonstrating in their infields, go “I KNEW it!! Just a paid shill… Read more »

The Awakened One
The Awakened One
4 years ago

@Yareally

I’ve been watching a lot of the Craig Ferguson videos recently. You mentioned Russell Brand and Craig being impossible to AMOG in a comment here:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/amog-tit-grab/#comment-463932

I stumbled across some interesting videos where Russell Brand came on Craig’s show. Some interesting AMOG dynamics here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VSgHwEKFts&t=1852s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkfwCJegVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yq5XvmrUeA

By the third interview I think Craig realizes Russell Brand can’t really be stopped he can only be contained.

Although starting around 3:40 in the third video Russell Brand gives a Craig “a game recognizes game” comment

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@Rollo, okay man. Here you go. This page shows you how to make sure NOBODY get’s any “link juice” from you for free:

http://www.wpbeginner.com/plugins/how-to-nofollow-all-external-links-in-wordpress/

YaReally
YaReally
4 years ago

@newlyaloof @Rollo
No idea what a nofollow is exactly or how to do it but someone let me know exactly how to link a nofollow YouTube video and I’ll be happy to add ?=nofollow or whatever to every RSD vid I post from here on out lol EVEN THOUGH IT MEANS I’LL BE POOR BECAUSE I WON’T GET MY TYLER-DOUGH!!

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@pua a few more things #1 was joking around with boss about me being gay and she said “you’re noooooot gay hank.” like I had claimed to be an african american woman. So to the concern from way back when with guys like scray and sentient thinking my gay jokes came across wrong, thats not the case. She was insistent that I absolutely 100% was not and could not be gay. It was actually surprising that she just came right out and said it “you aren’t gay hank.” like I was being ridiculous. #2 had fat coworker come up out… Read more »

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