Transitioning

As most of my readers know I’m presently editing the final draft of my third book. A very large part, almost a third, of this new book will be dedicated to Red Pill Parenting. I’ve written several series-posts about parenting from a Red Pill perspective and I felt it was an important enough topic to deserve a category itself in my sidebar links. I’ve expanded significantly upon these essays in the book as well as adding more material and some general advice for Red Pill aware men in their parenting efforts.

One thing I’m asked of from men who are Red Pill aware fathers is what to look out for and what to apply themselves to in raising a son or daughter using a Red Pill Lens. While prospectively it will give women some parenting insights, I’ve written this section with the intent of informing men about what they can expect from a feminine-primary social bent on conditioning a man’s children to assimilate to a Blue Pill mindset.

Without giving too much away, I’ve tried to express the dangers of a system of feminine-primary acculturation that contributes to what we term ‘Blue Pill Conditioning’ in the manosphere. What defines a ‘Blue Pill‘ mindset means different things to different men, but what conditions him to literally think, and invest his ego into that feminine-primary identification is initiated at a very early age. One thing I think gets lost on guys becoming Red Pill aware is just how much of his very natural-feeling sense of self is the result of a conditioning that’s taken the better part of his lifetime to develop in him.

The main reason I began developing a Red Pill parenting dialog is because it’s vitally necessary for Red Pill fathers – really any father with a sense of conventional masculinity – to come to terms with how his sons’ and daughters’ upbringing will be defined by what I call ‘The Village’ in the book. I coined this from the popular meme that “it takes a village to raise a child”, and the Village we have today is one that is dead set on instilling and normalizing a state of deliberate gender confusion – and hopefully perpetuate that state into a person’s adulthood.

The Village

This Village is a catch-all term and I mean to have it represent all of the influences a child receives in its upbringing that contributes to its Blue Pill sense of self. This includes the influences of media, popular entertainment, academia, their pre and grammar school education, popular culture that actively seeks to instill its own ideological base, etc. These are fairly recognizable sources of the Village’s systemic influence, but it’s also important to understand that this influence will be reinforced by your child’s peers, their Village family and relatives.

‘The Village’ will raise your kids if you don’t. You will be resisted, you will be ridiculed, you will be accused of every thought-crime to the point of being dragged away to jail for imparting Red Pill awareness to them (in the future I expect it to be equated with child abuse). The Village will teach your boys from the most impressionable ages (5 years old) to loath their maleness, to feel shame for being less perfect than girls and to want to remake their gender-identity more like girls – to the point that transitioning their gender to girls’ will be the norm.

The Village will raise your daughters to perpetuate the same cycle that devalues conventional masculinity, the same cycle that considers a father’s presence as superfluous and their sacrifices as granted expectations. It will raise your daughters to over-inflate their sense of worth with unmerited confidence at the expense of boys as their foils. It will teach them to openly embrace Hypergamy as their highest personal authority (publicly and privately) and to disrespect anything resembling masculinity to be less than some silly anachronism or reverse it into being all about men’s insecurities.

The good news is that for all of these efforts in social engineering, the Feminine Imperative is still confounded by basic biology and the psychological firmware evolved into us over millennia. That basic root reality is your greatest advantage as a father. If there’s one underlying truth upon which to base your parenting it’s this; children are still motivated by evolved influences that are relatively predictable. Begin from the root truth that we evolved our psychology and our behaviors from intergender complementarity that made us the preeminent species on this planet. It takes a global Village to distort this by teaching failed notions of egalitarian equalism.

Useful Tools – Blue Pill Fathers

Although the Village would assert its influence to be the primary one in your child’s life, and although it would have women believe that father’s are both necessary when convenient and superfluous, father’s are not without their uses. The Feminine Imperative (by way of the social system of the Village) needs fathers to help reinforce its feminine-primary influence in their children’s lives. Thus, Blue Pill fathers must also carry the feminine-primary water in their parenting. They must be taught to believe that parenting a daughter is preferable to parenting a son:

I realize that everything I could do with a boy I can do with my daughters (i.e. play basketball, teach them how to throw a punch, and play in the dirt). Yes, I know that’s a big fat “duh” for many of you, but I’m a recovering knucklehead with minimal relapses, so please humor me. And yes, I’m going to teach them much more than those three things – but I promise you that I will teach them those three things.

The Feminine Imperative needs men to constantly reaffirm the fallacies of egalitarian equalism, but it is The Village that needs a father to instill them into the minds of their own flesh and blood as well as those of other fathers. The meme is always a pretense of gender-neutral equity, but the latent purpose is one of devaluing the very existence of boys, and, by extension, conventional masculinity.

And this is the crux of the effort to enlist fathers in the system of the Village; masculinity and maleness are always portrayed as problems to be solved – the solution always being more feminine identification. The main goal of the Village is to destroy and redefine conventional masculinity in a way that only benefits the feminine.

I realize that being “girly” is just a myth. What does that mean, anyway? Would my kid be less girly if she dressed up as Spider-Man for Halloween instead of a princess? (and that’s exactly what she did, by the way). Would she be less girly if she wanted to tackle little boys on the football field instead of taking ballet classes? Not to me.

This is precisely the degree of gender obfuscation the Village requires fathers to endorse. The squid ink here is the idea that masculine and feminine, boys & girls, male and female are all one, undifferentiated whole; in fact the old ideas of gender differences that brought the human race to where it is today, we are taught, were nothing more than “myths”. The underlying note is that girls are the functional equals of boys, but girls have the social and sexual advantage of being female.

The social narrative of the Village, the one it needs fathers to internalize and parrot back, is one of Fempowerment, but simultaneously one of male disempowerment. The idea then evolves into a sense of conventional masculinity being a defect of men; men are just unperfected women who are in need of women (or their daughters’) innate correction.

The idea here is that men with daughters make for better men” as defined by the Feminine Imperative and approved by The Village. What Red Pill fathers need to acknowledge in this that their sons will be taught that their maleness is inherently flawed. All of the attributes and evolved instincts that make him a boy will be connected with his masculinity being “toxic”.

“Toxic Masculinity” or “Hyper-masculinity” are common tropes in the Village. We’ve gotten to a point that any form of traditional, conventionally masculine behaviors are now equated with a character flaw in men. So thoroughly has the Village distorted the old books definition of manhood that anything resembling a characteristically masculine behavior is, by default, an act of ‘hyper’ or “over-the-top” masculinity. This, of course, makes characterizing those acts as toxic, or ridiculous.

The Preferred Gender

In my essay, Environmental Stresses I added this quote from the book The Red Queen:

Contrary to popular belief a preference for boys over girls is not universal. Indeed, there is a close relationship between social status and the degree to which sons are preferred. Laura Betzig of the University of Michigan noticed that, in feudal times, lords favored their sons, but peasants were more likely to leave possessions to daughters. While their feudal superiors killed or neglected daughters or banished them to convents, peasants left them more possessions: Sexism was more a feature of elites than of the unchronicled masses.

[…]Lower down the social scale, daughters are preferred even today: A poor son is often forced to remain single, but a poor daughter can marry a rich man. In modern Kenya, Mukogodo people are more likely to take daughters than sons to clinics for treatment when they are sick, and therefore more daughters than sons survive to the age of four. This is rational of the Mukogodo parents because their daughters can marry into the harems of rich Samburu and Maasai men and thrive, whereas their sons inherit Mukogodo poverty. In the calculus of Trivers-Willard, daughters are better grandchildren-production devices than sons.

These quotes are a part of a much more in depth look at how both environmental and social stresses contribute to a ‘preferred gender’ dynamic in both animal populations and human social structure. As I was reviewing this book recently it hit me how western cultures have blatantly been endorsing ‘female’ as the preferred gender for the past 60-70 years now.

I realize this assertion grates on popular culture’s sensibilities when it comes to gender, but as I stated in that essay, at no other time in human history has it been more advantageous to be female than today. Whether you want to argue that assertion from socioeconomic, education, gender identity, social ‘progress’ or any other metric, women in this era enjoy a condition that places their sex as the primary one in terms of social advantage. Women today live in a social condition that advantages, ensures their relative successes and directly or indirectly provisions for their personal security while simultaneously seeking to handicap being male and ridiculing the conventionally masculine.

In many a prior essay I’ve made the assertion that this effort in feminizing boys – in “perfecting” them with feminization – has been a long effort in social engineering. And while I still believe this is true, I think that in recent years the adaptive response to this preferred gender dynamic for Blue Pill fathers, men and boys is now an effort in socially engineering boys to imagine their gender identity as being transitionable to that of girls. Needles to say this push for gender self-reassignment has been embraced by the Village.

Olivia loves Disney’s Frozen princesses, all things sparkly, bright tights and ballet. During her family’s Cuban vacation last summer, she danced in the children’s “mini-disco” before the evening shows, twirling and leaping across the stage. One night another guest turned to her parents, exclaiming, “Your daughter is the girliest girl I’ve ever seen!”

Olivia was born a boy.

She “socially transitioned” from male to female, in nursery school last year. She was four years old.

Today, she attends kindergarten at a Montreal primary school. Only her teachers and the school board know she is transgender, for now.

Olivia (not her real name to protect her identity) is part of a growing phenomenon that is being celebrated but which is also raising strong emotions: an increasing number of children as young as preschoolers appearing at gender identity-clinics across the country, convinced they are of the opposite sex.

The new push to normalize transgender acceptance relies solely on the presumption that gender identity is a social construct rather than influenced by biological, and evolved psychological dynamics inherent in both sexes. The idea again comes back to the egalitarian presumption of a blank-slate equalism and a rejection of gender as a binary determination. Yet in over 90% of transgender identity shifts we see it is boys who opt to “become” female in their self-reassignment. Left to their own non-abstract decision making – and reinforced by Blue Pill parents and the Village – boys will, in the binary, shift to a female / feminine gender identity in overwhelmingly greater numbers than girls shifting to a male / masculine identity.

I would argue that this greater transgender preference for boys is a direct result of the Preferred Gender dynamic and reinforced by the Village conditioning boys for it while normalizing the idea of it in a larger cultural respect. This is the next step in cultural feminization of boys and men that began in the touchy-feely days of men needing to “get in touch with their feminine sides.”

It is no longer enough for boys just to be educated in a feminine-correct manner. It is no longer enough to teach them to despise the gender they were born into, “hoping their penises will fall off”, and it’s no longer enough to condition them to defer to girl’s perfectness. Boys must literally be transitioned to be girls from as young an age as 4 years old.

This is the degree to which the Village and the Feminine Imperative will go to condition future men into a Blue Pill mindset. I outline this in the upcoming book, but this is vitally important for Red Pill fathers to understand because these will be the ‘boys’ they may eventually need to mentor and unplug from their very early psychological damage. Many voices in the manosphere call this damage child abuse and it’s easy to understand why; this damage works on a boy’s most intimate part of his sense of self.

Red Pill fathers need to recognize this perversion of conventional masculinity for what it is and protect their sons (as well as daughters) from it while still anticipating the fall that will result from the “men” this re-engineering of gender will create.

 

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

586 comments on “Transitioning

  1. There are two sexes. Although there are methods that enhance and/or suppress the appearance and expression of one sex or the other, there is currently no method for transitioning from one to the other. No matter what methods of modification are used, the individual is still fully indentifiable as their original biological sex.

    The medical technology to transition from one sex to the other is essentially the same that is required to transition from human to chimpanzee.

    Gender is a jargon term of the gender theorists to mean a subjective state which is self-identified and is not sex.

  2. Any four year old has far more to learn about their surroundings than any interest in sexual position or disposition.

    Tonka trucks or dolls may be a decision present company considered.But gender trans? give me a break! Either you pee standing or sitting this is the extent of a four year olds concern in this matter.Anything more is seed planted by a sick fool.

  3. There was a knock on my door about 10am one morning.
    There were two guys standing there. I asked what I could do for them. They explained they were Jehovah’s Witnesses and asked if they could come in for a few moments.
    Sure, why not.
    I let them in and offered them a seat. They sat there for several awkward minutes glancing back and forth at me and each other.
    I asked them what they wanted to do.
    One of the guys look at me nervously, “Fuck if I know. We never got this far before.”

    I’m guessing Amy has never gotten this far before.

  4. One of the guys look at me nervously, “Fuck if I know. We never got this far before.”

    I’m guessing Amy has never gotten this far before.

    Sometimes you just have to observe chat bots for what they are (in real time): alleged artificial intelligence not ready for prime time.

    For example observe Amy’s gibberish response to this:

    “I can see why you think you belong to me
    I never tried to make you think, or let you see one thing for yourself
    But now your off with someone else and I’m alone
    You see I thought that I might keep you for my own

    Amy what you want to do?
    I think I could stay with you
    For a while, maybe longer if I do

    Don’t you think the time is right for us to find
    All the things we thought weren’t proper could be right in time
    And can you see
    Which way we should turn together or alone
    I can never see what’s right or what is wrong
    (will it take to long to see)

    Amy what you want to do?
    I think I could stay with you
    For a while, maybe longer if I do

    Well now
    Amy what you want to do?
    I think I could stay with you
    For a while, maybe longer if I do”

  5. There is no Thanksgiving in this part of the world. Thanksgiving should be a great holiday. Gratitude, and all that. What is the balance between being grateful for everyone in your path and the RP reality that people are inexorably full of shit, deceitful, and wretched?

    I know that gratitude yields the best possible results in our personal lives, and orients the mind to maximum efficacy. I also know that giving people the benefit of the doubt is sometimes foolhardy and counterproductive. Something to mull over this Thanksgiving.

    I am thankful that there is no Thanksgiving in the part of the world where I temporarily reside. Always hated the holiday, hated the weekend, hated all the ‘reunions’ and cookie-cutter gatherings that happen around it. Glad to be free from all the bullshit here in cold, impersonal 2nd/3rd world-istan.

  6. @Joe K

    You are free to have your own Frame (your worldview). But Frame is not power. You are not actually free from all the bullshit there in the cold, impersonal 2/3rd Worldistan. If you were, your comments and the subcommunication in them would demonstrate you have more power and agency than your words actually emit.

    So where does that leave you in a red pill awareness world? It leaves you to do the work of further self development. To pursue your goals and get good at them. To have agency and the power to attract girls to you. What are you going to do about that? Crawl inward an merely acquire things, or go outward and not fear engaging with the cruel, inhospitable world. Your World is how it is. You can either adapt to it is (as you are currently doing) or you can change yourself and your environment. With bottoms up approach to adapting or changing.

    Your nihilism also leaves you more vulnerable in a social world. Isolation is dangerous (Law #18).

    And in red pill blogs, it is not about the caricature of the YSG Cad being better than the caricature an OMG “Good Guy” towards women and children. Both are merely choices that men have made with their own free will. And you are subscribing to and perpetuating a meme if you place the value of either of these two groups in the manosphere over another, rather than valuing either over blue pill betas. (A meme which spawns the back-and-forth drawn out debates. It’s bait for debate purposes.)

    From Rollo’s ” The Myth of the Good Guy

    I am aware of certain (formerly red pill) bloggers who promote the archetype of a ‘Good’ guy as some role for men to ideally aspire to. The ‘Alpha Cad’ archetype must necessarily become the ‘douchebag’ caricature of an overtly distasteful masculinity (for men less able to embody it) and yet, the opposite caricature of the doormat, supplicating ‘Beta Dad’ is equally distasteful and certainly untenable when we consider that ‘attractive’ qualities are never ‘arousing’ qualities.

    So the archetype of the ‘Good’ guy is offered up as some sort of livable, compromised ideal. If men could aspire to embody the best of the Alpha and temper that with what they define themselves as the best of the Beta, well then he’d be the ‘perfect’ catch for any woman of course.

    The problem with this ‘Good Guy’ myth is not because men can’t or wouldn’t want to try to balance women’s Hypergamy for them, but simply because women neither want nor expect that balance in the same man to begin with.

    It comes back to the Just Get It principle for women – any guy who needs to make a concerned effort to become what he expects women will want from him to be ‘the perfect guy’ doesn’t get it. They want Mr. Perfect because that is who he already is.

    I mentioned above that there really is no parallel for this in women and I’m sure the Madonna / Whore dichotomy will be mentioned in the comments later, but allow me to point out that there is no concerted parallel social effort on the part of women in which women prompt each other to become a ‘Good Girl’ in order to satisfy the ideals of men. If anything a hostile opposite resistance to this is most true.

    Women neither expect nor want a ‘Good Guy’ because he’s not believable, and his genuineness is always doubtable. That may sound jaded, but throw away any idea of being a ‘Good Guy’ balance of Alpha and Beta, because the Beta side of ‘good’ is so reinforced and common in men that it’s become the default template for women’s perception of you.

    There is no Alpha with a side of Beta, there is only the man who’s genuine concern is first for himself, the man who prepares and provisions for himself, the man who maintains Frame to the point of arrogance because that’s who he is and what he genuinely merits. There is only the Man who improves his circumstance for his own benefit, and then, by association and merit, the benefit of those whom he loves and befriends.

    That’s the Man who Just Gets It.

  7. @Rugby

    Well played and on theme — the business card scene in American Psycho.

    I had to look that one up. It is about fear.

    https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-business-card-scene-in-American-Psycho-symbolize

    It’s meant to show the absurdity of the degree of competition between these adult men who live and work in the prestige of upper class New York society and yet are also incredibly juvenile and silly.

    If you look closely at the business cards in the movie they essentially all the look the same with only slight variations in texture and lettering. However, they all look the same and say the same thing. And yet all of the guys in the conference room get excited in how those slight variations are somehow distinguish their card over the others. This is dark comedy at its finest: adult men comparing themselves with one another by showing their business cards which are only slightly different. The game is meaningless and no winner emerges because the entire premise is meant to be absurd.

    The filmmakers take this directly from the novel which expresses the same thing: all of the guys in the room are in competition with one another and yet none of them can really see that they are just copying one another. There is no originality and none of them are unique. The only thing which matters to them is that they think they are somehow just a little bit better than the other guy sitting next to them.

    There are several important visual distractions which happen during this scene:

    Bateman and Paul Allen look very similar. They have a similar hair style, similar glasses, similar outfit. This is interesting as Bateman considers Paul Allen his nemesis and yet they look almost identical. This begs the questions of why, exactly, does Bateman envy Paul Allen? The answer is very simply that Bateman thinks Paul Allen is better than him when, in fact, the differences between them are so minute as to be absurd.

    All of the business cards identify the person as a “Vice President” at Pierce & Pierce, so all of those guys have the same job and yet they are in competition over the slightest variations of how a business card looks. Again, the absurdity of this is meant to be funny.

    The Fisher Account seems to be a coveted account and yet it is never explained. If it is so important why does it remain such a mystery? The answer is simple: no one really knows and that is why it’s so coveted. Vain, selfish people covet what they believe they do not have, even if they do not understand the meaning or value behind what they covet. And yet this account is coveted because of what it symbolizes, which is never explained because in all seriousness it does not really matter.

  8. There are drug tested meets but no drug free meets

    Ie, the guy who wins the drug free meet is the one who does the best job of masking his drug use

  9. @SJF

    That’s mostly constructive, so I appreciate it…

    “You are free to have your own Frame (your worldview). But Frame is not power. You are not actually free from all the bullshit there in the cold, impersonal 2/3rd Worldistan. If you were, your comments and the subcommunication in them would demonstrate you have more power and agency than your words actually emit.”

    OK, but then you quote Rollo…

    “There is no Alpha with a side of Beta, there is only the man who’s genuine concern is first for himself, the man who prepares and provisions for himself, the man who maintains Frame to the point of arrogance because that’s who he is and what he genuinely merits…That’s the Man who Just Gets It. ”

    To your point though – you are right that I am not ‘free from all the bullshit’- just free from experiencing the awful rituals of Thanksgiving Weekend In The USA (TM). As for ‘power’ and ‘agency’ – I have all the ‘agency’ in the world, but yes – would have more ‘power’ if I were to successfully resolve the internal conflicts in my brain. I’ve admitted this before, and do so again now.

    “go outward and not fear engaging with the cruel, inhospitable world.”

    I doubt there is anyone commenting on, or reading this blog doing that moreso than myself. For all the good things OMGs here (or OMGs generally) may have going for them – that is one very common drawback. I’m currently living out of a carry-on and traveling through 2nd/3rd World-istan (as I said), temporarily ‘living’ in particular places. I go out every night, 7 nights a week, and socialize with strangers- men and women alike. Could I be pushing myself more? Yes, and I’ll make a point of it. YaReally had some good pointers on that front.

    “Your nihilism also leaves you more vulnerable in a social world. Isolation is dangerous (Law #18).”

    Fair enough, yet I am kind/friendly to strangers around me. The people that run the place I’m currently staying all ‘know me’ (casually) and I’m friendly with them and I sorta pay them to have my back if anything shitty were to happen, so there’s that FWIW. As for forging relationships with people beyond that- just doesn’t seem worth it to me. I like my own company, like to socialize while drinking, like to fuck attractive women (whether or not there is the equivalent of pocket change, read – waaaay less than one’d spend on a typical western date, exchanged for their time), then like to be left alone (rinse/repeat). Is that nihilistic? You bet your ass it is LOL. That’s where I’m at – if that’s ‘wrong’ to any of you – so be it.

    @Scray

    Just saw this…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuvyXYJP3Kk

    It seemed applicable, she’s throwing more stinging bullshit at him then merely ‘Oh you think your Mr. Coolguy, huh?’ And notice that she throws shit at him immediately after qualifying herself to him “Rock stars have written SONGS about me” – it’s like she catches herself qualifying and then retreats to verbalizing that she’s somehow above him (a subtle DLV). Just the way Hank says “Ooooh…K” – perfect, not only in execution but what he’s communicating about how much validity he gives to her words.

    Anyway – I’ll bet that if you think about when chicks have said this kinda “Mr. Coolguy” thing to you, more often than not they just qualified themselves right before. HTH

  10. @ Joe K

    “Is that nihilistic? You bet your ass it is LOL. That’s where I’m at – if that’s ‘wrong’ to any of you – so be it.”

    It is not wrong to any of us that you are choosing to be that way. It might not fit into our worldview, but that is OK and I’m not judgmental about that for you. But I don’t value nihilism.

    Your posts subcommunicate digs at those that are willing providers in a different red pill paradigm and comfortable with it. Digs at other red pill commenters that aren’t freaked out by “love” and “providing” in a non beta supplicating way. Because they have excess and don’t mind sharing or even having strings attached.

    Is it OK with you if OMG’s provide for their spouse and children with full knowledge of red pill reality?

    You left this out of “…OK, but then you quote Rollo…:

    There is only the Man who improves his circumstance for his own benefit, and then, by association and merit, the benefit of those whom he loves and befriends.

    PS. My Thanksgiving Day was enjoyable.

  11. @yareally @forge @culum @habd @pua

    FR at work

    At work. Black girl came into store. Boss noticed and told me to go help her.

    Talked work stuff a bit, then when into “were you at that party?” she wasn’t, as she is from out of state. Went into “girls from x are party girls” routine. Was a litle nervous, since this was at work and the girl was attractive and very much my type, easy 7. She said yeah a lot of girls were like that there.

    Went to look for the item she wanted. We talked a lot about store related stuff. Found it, she wanted a few more. So I went to check in the back. Her friend is there now, a fat 5 or so. So I chatted with them a bit, but we were a little close to the ther people. The main store manager was also around there, she’s black and is…well she tends to not like people chatting up girls. Nothing to do with productivity, just her being a girl. Me and a coworker were chatting up a cute white vendor and the black boss came in and inserted her self RIGHT between us and the vendor and started talking to us. She just wants to be the center of attention basically.

    I walked away from the others, and the girls followed. 7 was telling her friend how I said girls from her city were party girls. 5 agrees. I do “you girls are troublemakers, you get drunk and she fights (5) and you become a raging lesbo (7). Works well as always. Not as big a reaction as on the asians, but still has a big impact. Unlike that time, the prettier one reacted the most. She did the black people thing where she kind of steps back laughing and leaning to the side kind of.

    I kept teasing about how she had said before that she didn’t drink much. But she kept brining up drinking. Like how she was in germany and drank all kinds of beer. So I was like “oh really?” and she came back with “noooooo I don’t drink that much.” I teased her a bunch over this, all I had to do is just wait and she’d run her mouth and she’d revel the true story.

    Eventually got to how she seemed crazy. Turned to the 5 “how many mental condictions does the 7 have?” Chatted mostly to the 5 and got closer to her for a spell. Then went back to the whole group.

    Teased the 7 a little too much though. At one point she said “I feel like I’m being judged” so i laid off.

    Ohhh. A big one. She qualified herself to me. I was really impressed since she said she drank these high abv belgian tripels. Most people haven’t head of those. So later she shows me al the ones she can drink. She say I need three to feel a buzz (they are 9%). I don’t believe her. I say I am gonna have to see her drink those. I bring this up here and there through the whole convo (ended up maybe 10-15 min). 5 says she could tell me if she really could. Nope I say, she could just bribe you. *I* need to see it. Later 5 says she’s actually seen 7 drink that much and be not super drunk. Again, I’ve got to see it.

    I pushed on this. We should meetup and there is a cool brewery and distillery downtown we can go to. Thing is though…lol…thanksgiving. And the 7 leaves soon, so its not really gonna work. Grabbed # anyway. 5 lives around here, can always befriend her for access to her hot black friends as they come up to visit.

    Did a mic drop of my phone to my boss (not the store manager lol) showing her the numbers

    Still cool since it was the first time I’ve gamed girls at work, while I was working.

  12. sorry, headed to work, puked this up. but the 7 was saysing SHE could drink 3 and barely get a buzz

  13. “The Village’ will raise your kids if you don’t. You will be resisted, you will be ridiculed, you will be accused of every thought-crime to the point of being dragged away to jail for imparting Red Pill awareness to them (in the future I expect it to be equated with child abuse). The Village will teach your boys from the most impressionable ages (5 years old) to loath their maleness, to feel shame for being less perfect than girls and to want to remake their gender-identity more like girls – to the point that transitioning their gender to girls’ will be the norm.”

    This is already on the edge of becoming mainstream. Maybe because I was born in 1963 and was old enough to be red pill aware before much of all this became rooted, or because my mother was a negative weak stupid bitter man hater bitch who dished out more than the usual share of demonic femininazi shit at the time on my brother and I or because my father (born before WW1) was 20 years older than our mother and was a bad ass of sorts who wasn’t intimidated by much, whatever the reason, I recognized that the FI had already firmly planted its insidious claws into western culture by the early nineteen seventies. I knew what was happening at the time and recognized it for what it is.

    All the conditions, imperatives, and actions Rollo describes above as futuristic aren’t. They are actually happening now. He is not predicting the future. He is describing the present. His prediction that things will get worse is likely accurate but the implementation began before now, is in action now and continues to progress.

    A significant portion of the rest of the world is reacting to this by trying to stop it locally. Research what is happening all over Eastern Africa as an example.

  14. @SJF

    “Is it OK with you if OMG’s provide for their spouse and children with full knowledge of red pill reality?”

    Of course man, and I did give lip service to that effect (a la “All the good things OMGs have going for them”) if nothing else, then because I have no desire to be a dick to sincere men who are intending to sort things out/better themselves rather than ad hom launching which is just a fuckin’ waste of time, obviously….one of the issues that I can’t relate to though is how any RP man can believe he’s in a mono-marriage/LTR that’s actually a good deal for him, being a “man who’s genuine concern is first for himself, the man who prepares and provisions for himself, the man who maintains Frame to the point of arrogance because that’s who he is and what he genuinely merits.”

    I mean, I just don’t see it. I don’t see any marriages, full stop- none, where after the NRE wears off the wife is still giving at least equally as is the husband. The wife gets what she wants, then becomes a taker, and will use every manner of dark triad behavior to take what she (thinks she) wants. So I think you’re accurate to use the word ‘provider’ – the man provides, the wife takes…which is sort of the description of Beta-bux, is it not on some level? I don’t see any Alpha type husbands honestly believing that they are getting an equitable deal in their marriage as they forego fucking other women, yet in theory ‘have all these other great benefits from having a good wife’ etc…

    So a wife cooks, cleans – so what? I’d rather cook my own food or go out to dinner, and cleaning is a tiny hour a week hassle. On the subject of ‘out to dinner’, who really enjoys sitting across from a woman and having any conversation, whatsoever, that isn’t leading to (1st time) sex? I don’t get it. Spending a considerable amount of money on a creature who doesn’t appreciate it, listening to their inane blather or utterly vanilla take on modern topics (at best), wishing that you could fuck literally any other hot woman in the place. Where is the benefit to the man in that?

    Even if she’s the mother of your children – which I can’t relate to – but I see my brother who loves his son but the relationship with the son’s mother is rocky at best…they got into an argument and she threatened to run off and become a hooker (different part of the world)…I would never tolerate that bullshit and, being in that part of the world, would take that threat seriously and pick up my son and run for the border. So the whole ‘seeing your wife’s features in the being of your own son/daughter’ – I can’t see it counting for much if the wife/mother is such a parasitic, ungrateful, fundamentally mercenary creature.

    Those are my honest thoughts on the matter, and not meant as an attack. Heading out for the night, glad you enjoyed your holiday.

  15. “a mono-marriage/LTR that’s actually a good deal for him”

    IMO incentives are different in RP marriages. There’s long-term benefit in culture stabilization when releasing RP children to adults out on the streets. Just one of many reasons OMG value investing both in the rapid ROI near and delayed ROI far. Self-sustaining RP tradition, carried out through children, gives the deceased RP father a vote in future decision making. That’s force projection!

    The challenge of winning the long game is important to me. Force multipliers (RP raised kids) are powerful change agents. A small minority of passionate few can do a lot of good.

    Thanks for your insight, Helps me be a better Dad.

  16. Joe K. Ehintellect sjf blax

    This is how Patriarchy 2.0 dropped round these parts this week.

    Tuesday – bought a vintage super car…. Lol. Right place right time. No discussion with the wife… Came up over Turkey… She looks forward to me taking for a ride in it…

    Wednesday – 3 of 4 daughters in kitchen from 3pm cranking out 4 different desserts… They clean the kitchen up. We all go out to a late dinner when some relatives show up.

    Thursday – 3 of 4 daughters in kitchen with me. They are cranking out some sides. I am prepping and launching the bird because that is my thing. Major meat thungs I do to perfection… Later in the day wife floats in and does her dishes and kitchen clean up. When parents show up we gather. I bless out meal. The table is laden with good eats. Much drinking of choice wine. Kids chattering with grandparents… Music playing.

    After seconds myself and my boy and grandpa retire to my tv room and watch football. The wife and daughters and grandmas clear the table and compete over cleaning up everything. I drink beer and watch football.

    An hour and a half later we are called for dessert… Feasting round 2 takes place. The men reture again to tv and finish watching the game. Wimen clear and clean up. An hour or so later we come back to the living room. Kitchen is spotless… All food away all dishes away. Some neighbors stop by. Open some more wine and we all sit around and catch up. Two of the kids het out their guitars and do some songs in the corner for their own amusement…. The hour grows late… Off to bed.

    Friday … Sleep in. Nice and late. Wife wakes up. Morning sleepy sex session vigourous and enjoyable. Then we go get coffee. I help her with an outside project that requires some muscle… Small shit test over my strategy which is laughed off… Project done.

    Watch hockey drink a beer… She comes in and asks what i want for lunch… Males up a killer turkey sandwich and leftovers…

    Tonight will probably go out a bit with my WK buddy… Wife is setting up some christmas decorations with the daughters…

    No worries…

  17. @pua @hank @culum @walawala @forge @paelleon etc
    For the guys sarging this weekend:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5HnukNb6D8

    Great infield of Tyler showing how you, as a scrubby nobody PUA with nothing to rely on but your pickup skills, can get the girls that other guys buy bottle/VIP service and shit to get. He shows how to handle those dudes and the 4 main reactions you’ll run into and strategies to use in those situations.

    For the alpha brahs and guys around the bottle scene like Rollo, Blaximus, etc, this is how scrubby idiots like me “take girls from richer better-looking more jacked etc” guys which sounds so mythical and impossible until you see how easy it is…ideally you see how easy it is by just TRYING it a bunch till you can do it, but here’s some infield to show how no, every guy who’s girls you talk to WON’T punch your lights out and all that other fear-mongering shit guys who don’t do this tell other guys will happen lol MOST guys are generally cool dudes with their own insecurities and shit and respect another guy who’s bringing value and is a cool fun guy.

    You can see the student in the first infield at the start has the owner of the table not approving of him at first till Tyler calibrates for him and smooths it out by setting a “sorry, he’s not from around here, I’m trying to teach him the bro code” frame and pacing the guy’s reality (about living in LA) and then the guy lights right up happy to explain the “man code” to the student and then becomes a wingman letting him have access to the table so now he can bring girls from around the club there if he wants.

    And note how Tyler is very aware of value-exchanges and has the student bring more girls to the table guy, exchanging “nightlife currency” (aka pussy lol) with him and now that guy who hasn’t paid fuck all, has full access to that guy’s expensive table, plus his approval/permission to mack the girls in his group, and girls just see a guy who “must be” as high-value as the other guy since he has his approval. Even if that guy is wearing an old t-shirt, is broke, and is out of shape…no one cares about that stuff, they care about the value you demonstrate.

    And also note that none of this is PASSIVE. This is PRO-ACTIVE. If this newbie tried to stand around relying on his looks, money, etc to have girls just ditch their table and come feel their biceps, they’d be virgins forever lol But with game, whatever advantages the other guys have don’t matter because pro-active game levels the playing field. It doesn’t matter if those girls think some guy in the corner with a 6-pack is hotter than you, if that guy doesn’t approach them and you DO and YOU give them emotional spikes, that guy and all the mental masturbation about whether looks gives you a 0.0001% advantage or a 0.0002% advantage, is made irrelevant lol

    Now the student is lame ’cause he’s a newbie, so he doesn’t really even know what to DO with the access Tyler helped him learn how to get, but if a guy doing this can manage to come off 0.00001% COOLER than that table guy, just 0.00001% less reactive etc in front of the girls (which isn’t hard to do), guess what happens in terms of attraction, social proof, preselection (to the rest of the VIP booths and the girls in the club in general), networking, and a bunch of other shit lol

    You don’t need to be rich to do any of this shit. You just need to understand social dynamics and be smart and learn to calibrate. You won’t learn how to do it by reading online on a Fri/Sat night, go out to some higher-end venues where they do bottles and try befriending some dudes with bottle/VIP service and test out what Tyler’s explaining.

    Now combine what Tyler’s explaining there, with what Julien is explaining here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fwlgN4378k

    And imagine how different your nights would look compared to hitting a dive pub and just trying to hunt out nice easy solo girls standing around the venue.

    Any guy reading this has the tools in him to do this shit every night out if he wants to. Tyler’s giving away the keys to the kingdom laying it all out step by step right there for free for anyone to learn and take infield and apply.

    It’s Friday night, you can try it out tonight if get out of your computer chair and go out. Have fun 😉

  18. (also for anyone wondering how Tyler can talk to the students without the girls noticing, Tyler has a mic so his voice comes out clear (I THINK they have fancy sound-cancelling mics that buffer out crazy loud bass etc so the voices can be heard better but not sure) but in the actual club Tyler is purposely speaking in a tonality/level that he knows girls don’t pay attention to (basically talking like a chode lol) and when he’s creepin up behind them (lol) he stays out of the line of vision of the girls hiding behind the student’s head etc, and if the student is properly engaging the girls then the girls’ RAS is focused on the student so that helps make Tyler “invisible”…and the student is paying attention for Tyler’s instructions so he hears what Tyler is saying…it’s basically a big combination of psychological tricks to stay off the girls’ RAS)

  19. Blog PSA: I am hereby pulling all RSD material from TRM as of now. I have come into some very reliable information that the spamming of this blog and the legitimacy I’ve built over several years is intentional.

    YaReally, Scray and anyone else are still welcome to post here and discuss whatever they wish, but I will no longer allow TRM to service RSD videos or links as a proxy for RSD’s advertising.

  20. @Sentient

    Bought a 1974 cb 360 two months ago. tank being repainted now. It’s the little things.

    Yes…family life…so chill.

  21. @Lost Patrol

    Real Social Dynamics. Pickup site with Tyler durden (irl Owen) Julien and others. They post free vids of how to pick up girls and they also have paid programs like Juliens PIMP and such.

    Scray and Yareally (esp yareally lol) often post their vids since they are an excellent free resource for illustrating his concepts. I’ve gained a lot from them, and haven’t paid those guys a penny, and don’t plan to.

    @Rollo

    Is this because they misrepresented you in that video? With the fat guy who said your books were like The Art of the Deal for girls?

    I dunno man. Its your site. But I never saw any kind of spamming or anything insidious. Its kind of the nature of the manosphere that you’re gonna drop references to other guys, and a lot of those other guys have paid products. For example, Goldmund Unleased. Are you banning mention of him next?

    Its just been real helpful for guys like me who come to the comment section specifically for pickup stuff (I do read all your posts by the way). Those RSD vids are very helpful to guys like me, since while scray and yareally and forge and others can describe concepts for me, it isn’t quite the same as actually seeing someone doing it real time.

    Like I said, I haven’t paid a penny to RSD, and don’t plan to.

    Again, your site, but where is this gonna end? Are you gonna ban FRs before too long?

    I just feel everyone in the manosphere helps everyone. Guys on here can hear mention of RSD, maybe a few buy their products. Guys on RSD go looking around for deeper issues, maybe a few hear mention of TRM from Tyler, they check it out an end up buying your book. Win win for everyone.

    This site works well since it is largely uncensored. This banning of RSD vids seems a step in the wrong direction for me personally and I worry where it will stop.

    Lol, the irony is since Yareally always linked the relevant vids, I never really looked around at RSD’s site for videos. But since you banned them, I’m now gonna have to look through their vids to find the few he linked here recently. I was gonna watch them here…but now I have to go to their site. So the end result is that by banning them I am actually getting MORE exposure to them.

    Banning them is just giving them MORE advertising and MORE hits on their youtube page.

    @pellaeon

    The psychologist assured me, however, that this was, of course, just coincidence. You can’t “jump to conclusions” based off people’s observed behavior. She probably just had a bad day the other times (every time I saw her over a year’s period) and had a good day when I started to ignore her (every day I saw her for three months). I stopped seeing him and decided I could help myself better than he could (and without paying $100 a session).

    yeah shrinks are all majorly blue pill. note though how red pill explains that chick’s 180 precisely, whereas blue pill only can come up with a lame excuse that anyone who thinks about it will see through. for sure don’t waste money on pysch guys, especially when it comes to women.

  22. @hank holiday

    Real Social Dynamics. Pickup site with Tyler durden (irl Owen) Julien and others. They post free vids of how to pick up girls and they also have paid programs like Juliens PIMP and such.

    Thanks.

  23. EhIntelect

    74cb 350,nice.
    A friend up the street his dad had a machine shop in the garage,imaculate all he built were air cooled race engines,porche,vw,and loads of honda flat trackers.
    He could get 50hp out of a honda350.
    He would let me watch if i was quiet,the guy was amazing,after a paper thin bore he would fit the piston with a .002 feeler guage all through and around sometimes honing for hours on one jug till he was satisfied.
    Seemed like all the racers were there at one time or another.
    Perfectionism was contagious around that guy.
    The one part that is hard to find now is third gear in that trans,as that is the gear they use on the flat track.

  24. @ Hank

    No one is banned. Content videos are being removed. You can still watch them to your heart’s delight on their site, which is how it should be. Or you can watch them on YouTube.

  25. Btw, you missed the NYC bootcamp. I was up in Yonkers for Thanksgiving and I could’ve swung by, but I don’t wanna spend hundreds of dollars to see those dudes. It’s about the money now Lebowski. Free advertising blows.

  26. Blax

    There is nothing wrong with free advertising,just don’t park your billboard in a moratorium zone.Then when people throw eggs at it and they miss and hit the bosses ride That sign is gonna move!

  27. @Rollo: I don’t quite understand the reasons for removing RSD videos.
    My interpretation of your explanation is that by having those links here, it attracts the spammer bots and potentially other similar attacks to the site.

    Presumably RSD is more infamous than this site and therefore the association brings unwanted attention?

    Some of those videos are really good, it’s a shame.

  28. The human infant biologically, morphologically, and psychologically reflects its source — the mother.

    Jungians (who you shit on, I know) refer to this as participation mystique, a form of religious identity between infant and mother, and more broadly, between infant and the feminine.

    For the female infant it is no issue to be tied into a participation mystique with her mother. The normal course of a girl’s psychological development is to mirror the mother at every step, but to learn the additive faculties of discrimination, discipline, and boundary from her father. Whether a father is present or absent, mothers and daughters share a primitive identity for their entire lives.

    For the male infant, it is a different situation. As Camille Paglia said, “A woman simply is, but a man must become.” The male child’s identity must be thrown off from his mother and switched onto the father. This is generally done as part of a social or communal process in which the young male is submitted to physical pain, and tested on his ability to endure it — this fundamental process is ritualized across cultures in painful male initiation ceremonies, in circumcisions, tattoos, brands, and the like.

    If the male child’s identity is not cast off from the mother and onto a father — perhaps due to the absence of a father — a mother complex results.

    Jung, a century ago, on the Mother Complex:

    “Typical effects on the son are homosexuality and Don Juanism, and sometimes also impotence. In homosexuality, the son’s entire heterosexuality is tied to the mother in an unconscious form; in Don Juanism, he unconsciously seeks his mother in every woman he meets.

    The effects of a mother-complex on the son may be seen in the ideology of the Cybele and Attis type: self-castration, madness, an early death.”

  29. “I don’t quite understand the reasons for removing RSD videos.”

    +1

    I watch all the videos anyway, but I can say that without a doubt I wouldn’t be where I am now without RSD. I started watching their stuff when Rollo had that post about that man in demand conference where some dude that presented made a big deal about fashion and YaReally dropped in and proved that looks don’t matter. Life changing shit for me. No joke.

    I just think it would be a shame if another “me” dropped by and was never exposed to their stuff. There are a lot of limiting beliefs that are perpetuated here and in the Manosphere that are impede guys progress.

  30. Actually I remember the exact video that triggered my light bulb moment. Tyler hit on this ridiculously hot chick that was about to leave in a cab, and he pulled her out and within 20 seconds she jumped into his arms and wanted to fuck him. I was like Whoa, there is something far deeper going on here than money, looks or some pickup lines. That’s an important realization.

  31. @ Andy

    I’ve been busy last few days, but I haven’t forgot that shit you pointed at me last thread for no reason.

    In the meantime I’ll get you a fucking box of Kleenex.

  32. @hank @pua

    “Most times, when you are doing things right, girls don’t really give you any sign of this. They only let you know when they DON’T like it. So if a woman ever doesn’t react to what you are doing, assume she likes it and keep pushing. If she ever doesn’t like what you are doing, she will DEFINITELY LET YOU KNOW lol.”

    I have a specific reference exp it happened previously. A friend i know brought her friend, I was then starting to kino everybody just to get some experience.

    I just kinoed her the arms and she freaked out so much that she met with her friend and in the complained in the bathroom to her and that friend can and told me not to touch people lol.

    Another very conservative girl i was gaming when i went on a date with her, i touched her in most places like touching her belt,legs as if she was my own property. she didn’t say anything during the date but later when she was messaging told me that she didn’t like me touching her.

  33. @yareally @pua @hank @scray @culum @HABD

    You advice is definitely needed here 🙂

    I ran Boyfriend destroyer on a girl i know just because i had her number and wanted to try to get an experience how it would work.

    She replied saying
    “There is no right person or a perfect match.. it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.”

    Does that mean she subjectively believes she is totally satisfied by the guy she is currently dating ? her most hypergamous option at the moment ?

    Or she is a smart girl?

    What to make of this sentence ?

  34. Re RSD…

    It’s been interesting to watch them lurch towards self actualization… a lot of their stuff now is about fitness, making money, developing networks… Tony Robbins light…

    Predict within a couple of years the goal will be to achieve a dynamic, passionate and authentic state… via The Platinum Rule… and Tyler will be married within five years.

    Re videos – you NOW have a bunch of increasingly in shape, fashionable, semi famous millionaires who are also massively socially proofed within the social circles and the clubs they frequent (over and over…). the “cold approach” thing has become more disingenuous since Luke has joined and Tyler is “dating” a Playboy model… and they are openly filming now much more (we’ve all seen GGW – years ago)…

    One recent video with Luke and Julian, Julian was explaining how for years in LA he built up a large social circle of girls… which is all well and good. But then if you have “cold approach” videos taken in warm approach environments… well…

    Pay attention to where they are and what that means as a start…

    Not a hater at all BTW – just objective.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BKk-ZD3DSXN

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BHqmiawjAHY

    https://www.instagram.com/p/-FkriANjeJ

  35. FIWL

    well this is the type of line I often use on girls…

    “it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.”

  36. She replied saying
    “There is no right person or a perfect match.. it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.”

    Does that mean she subjectively believes she is totally satisfied by the guy she is currently dating ? her most hypergamous option at the moment ?

    Or she is a smart girl?

    What to make of this sentence ?”

    She sounds like a smart girl who hasn’t become an alpha widow yet.

  37. @Rollo
    “Blog PSA: I am hereby pulling all RSD material from TRM as of now. I have come into some very reliable information that the spamming of this blog and the legitimacy I’ve built over several years is intentional.”

    wtf are you talking about? Did you watch that video? He’s literally showing how to go into high-end venues (like the type you run your promos at) and how to befriend (or compete with) the bottle service/VIP table dudes and take their girls, with crystal clear infield footage (which we would have KILLED for back in the early 2000s) showing EXACTLY how he does it.

    How many discussions have we had about looks/money/status mattering and how many discussions have we had about how AMOG’ing and status and how money gives you access to girls etc? How many times have I been accused of being full of shit around here when I say PUAs learn to go take girls from these rich better-looking high-value dudes. How many Red Pill observations of how the world, human psychology, social dynamics, Attraction, etc work does this shit confirm and demonstrate to support that what I’ve been saying for fucking YEARS *ISN’T* bullshit?

    That video was directly showing how to get around your looks/money matter idea, showing a thing that we do all the time infield, and showing how even a random nobody newbie can circumvent the looks/money shit with that infield.

    That’s WHY I tagged your name in it, because I was hoping you might offer some “oh, you know what, now that I see the infield of it in action, that DOES look like something that would work in the bottle model events I run. I’ve actually seen that kind of thing, but it doesn’t look like a cold approach. There are some interesting things we could discuss about how status and high-value and money and Attraction work.”

    And you just delete that shit as spam?? And say you have some cryptic information that I’m trying to delegitimize your site?? With what, proof that some of your ideas might need some readjustment or rethinking??

    “but I will no longer allow TRM to service RSD videos or links as a proxy for RSD’s advertising.”

    These are FREE videos with a shitload of useful information in them. I’ve repeatedly told guys that they should never pay for pickup shit and encouraged guys to grab their products for free (torrent that shit). If ANY other company was putting out video with the quality level that RSD does I would happily link their videos isntead, but we have Krauser’s “you look like a bunny rabbit also all jews should die” droning on videos, we have a jacked Good Looking Loser that by default makes guys think “I gotta be jacked to get the results he gets”, we have a bunch of potato-camera 240p quality shitty infield from random guys where you can’t even hear or see what’s going on VS RSD’s CRYSTAL-CLEAR infield footage that would have been like a goddamn MIRACLE to have back in the early 2000s…we would have paid a fuckton just to get a GLIMPSE of this shit, and these guys are putting this stuff up for free, breaking it down infield, in a format where you can just click past the “hey also buy our bootcamps” parts.

    I even fucking TIME-STAMP around the advertisements and tell guys which parts of the video are specifically relevant to them and to skip the rest of the video or skip the advertisement at the start etc (I didn’t on this last one because it.

    That video I linked didn’t even *HAVE* an advertisement for a bootcamp or anything, the entire 20 min vid was Tyler explaining different concepts and showing infield demonstrating those concepts.

    On top of it the RSD guys are even promoting your book now lol Just because they think it has good content in it. Fucking hilarious.

    Tyler’s networking like a motherfucker to build his empire (he’s talked about planning to expand into other areas/channels for years), that’s why he’s cross-promoting with all the Brand Carter, Big Mike, Elliot Hulse, etc dudes and tapping into their audience and they’re tapping into his. That’s just building a business…ironically the Manosphere promotes entrepreneurship and living off the grid and building your own business, but god forbid someone actually does it right instead of the way the Manosphere does it with Krauser ranting racist shit all over his Twitter, Roosh trolling feminists, and you staying underground.

    “YaReally, Scray and anyone else are still welcome to post here and discuss whatever they wish”

    Deleting their videos just means that I have to spend even MORE of my spare time typing out exactly what they would have said in a FREE video I could’ve just linked and said “watch from 5:00 – 10:53”, now I have to type out 20 paragraphs of what would be said in that video. I don’t make money from my writing here and writing here cuts into my actual career-work time, I just write a shitload because I LIKE helping guys and the old community was ABOUT helping eachother, that’s how we all got good at this shit. But if you’re gonna force me to write out shitloads of text to get around your paranoid rules, I gotta do a realistic cost/benefit of my free time on that.

    @hank holiday
    “Those RSD vids are very helpful to guys like me, since while scray and yareally and forge and others can describe concepts for me, it isn’t quite the same as actually seeing someone doing it real time.”

    This. Fucking amazing. If you guys had any idea how few resources we had back in the early 2000s…I used to watch that fucking Future AMOG in Leicester Square video on loop, full-screened trying to make out what each giant pixel was. We were listening to the shittiest audio recordings in the fucking world trying to decipher what guys were saying or tonality and we had to GUESS at what girls reactions were and hit the field a shitload with NO IDEA what it was supposed to even LOOK like when we tried to apply shit.

    Now these guys FROM that community fix that, and give a shitload of CRYSTAL-CLEAR HD video with great lighting and audio away for *FREE* and I can’t even link that shit??

    If I was linking bootcamp advertisements like “Hey everyone go sign up for the Tyler bootcamp!! Look at this advertisement for it and how much you need a bootcamp”, then hey, cool, but I’m gonna have to manually explain in 50 pages why a guy like hank or Culum or Forge or walawala etc can walk into one of Rollo’s bottle model events and just GET the “perfect 10s” he hires and throw out half the limiting beliefs the Manosphere has, instead of just linking a short little video showing DIRECT beautifullly shot infield demonstrating it???

    Fucking retarded.

    “Guys on here can hear mention of RSD, maybe a few buy their products.”

    I always always always tell guys to get their products without paying (but I don’t actively say “TORRENT THAT SHIT FOR FREE” because I don’t want Rollo’s to promote piracy on Rollo’s site), I NEVER say buy an RSD product and I ALWAYS link AROUND their advertisements and say “skip to this part, then skip to this part”.

    “Lol, the irony is since Yareally always linked the relevant vids”

    Enjoy sifting through 2000 RSD videos to try to find content directly relevant to your sticking points everyone, since I can’t just link you directly to the one that would help you solve your shit and help guys AVOID ending up being suicide cases Rollo has to deal with 10 years from now.

    @IAS
    “My interpretation of your explanation is that by having those links here, it attracts the spammer bots and potentially other similar attacks to the site.”

    I’m just assuming that this is another “YAREALLY IS HIRED BY RSD TO PROMOTE THEM” accusation. I WISH I made money from linking them then I wouldn’t have to bust my ass at my career life lol I guess in an industry where everyone is wrapping their content up to sell in eBooks, it’s hard for guys to understand that some people just legitimately want to help other men out. They think PUA was an industry from day one, they weren’t back on the old Fast Seduction forums seeing thousands of dudes helping eachother out for free and they didn’t see the industry go from charging NOTHING for the information to building the industry. Maybe it’s a projection thing like “well I’M using this to make money, so other guys must be too”.

    Whatever the reason, it’s bullshit. I’m just a guy who links shit that helps guys ’cause other guys helped me back in the old community and RSD is the main company that’s stepped up and put out USEFUL content (for FREE).

    @Andy
    “I started watching their stuff when Rollo had that post about that man in demand conference where some dude that presented made a big deal about fashion and YaReally dropped in and proved that looks don’t matter. Life changing shit for me. No joke. ”

    I guess The Brand is more important than the truth.

    “Tyler hit on this ridiculously hot chick that was about to leave in a cab, and he pulled her out and within 20 seconds she jumped into his arms and wanted to fuck him. I was like Whoa, there is something far deeper going on here than money, looks or some pickup lines. That’s an important realization.”

    I could link that video in an instant for you just from the first half of that description. Not because I’m a paid RSD shill but because on my 10 years of doing this shit I watched that video a thousand fucking times because we WISHED we had that kind of footage to learn from back when I started out and I actually get how valuable it is to SEE that in action.

    @Rollo
    I think the thing you should actually be concerend about is that you’ve entered a stage in your thought process where you consider free useful content that helps guys and might occasionally show INFIELD footage suggesting you need to rethink or rework some of your ideas, to be “undermining” your site/brand. What’s next, Rational-Masculinity to go next to Roosh’s Neo-Masculinity?

    You can delete this if you want, I’m sure you will, I don’t even care lol fuck all of this. I was so psyched to share that video last night, I can’t believe he even got that shit on camera that’s a fucking miracle. Fuck the Manosphere and its hugbox mentality lol

    Enjoy your Saturday night everyone. Go out, or DON’T. Stay in instead, otherwise you might be exposed to things that don’t align with the hugbox and be banished from it lol

  38. Fakkin’ autism, lol. I squandered A2 with a hottie (brunette, large tits on a small frame, curvy with a small butt, no tats or piercings, yummmm!) last night because I couldn’t bring myself to move to A3. She had sent her wings away and was giving me lots of hugs and her body language was focused on me and we danced a lot. Gaming myself is the hard part, lol.

  39. @Sentient
    ““I can’t believe he even got that shit on camera that’s a fucking miracle.”

    LOL”

    Should’ve clarified: it’s not the act of doing it on camera that’s a miracle, since we do this kind of thing lots. It’s the fact that he got beautiful clear footage of a newbie bootcamp student with NO idea how to do it, to do it, showing him fucking up and getting a hostile reaction from the table guy, and then following Tyler’s EXACT instructions fixing it and then GETTING the predictable result that we keep SAYING anyone here can get, and seeing that newbie’s progress, PLUS on the same bootcamp in the same venue, footage of another newbie sitting down at one of those guys tables to hit on the girls with the guy (that would intimidate most newbies from even approaching the girls) giving zero fucks (JUST LIKE WE SAY OFTEN HAPPENS), etc

    Like capturing that all in such perfect quality and being able to show the different types of reception/recovery involved in this move, and seeing a newbie LEARNING in real-time IN the video, all in hidden-cam (VS the girls seeing it’s there affecting their reactions like lots of other company’s infield is) crystal-clear HD with perfect audio and lighting etc…

    …ya, I consider that a fucking miracle. I can go out and record myself doing similar shit with my shaky potato phone and you can try to make out what I’m saying through the thumping music and what I’m doing through the shitty lighting because I don’t have an expensive camera with quality low-lightnight-vision features, and all you’ll see is a guy who talks to some other guys like he knows them.

    Seeing a newbie go through that and Tyler giving the same student the step by step in good quality and in-between footage explaining exactly how and why it works and how to handle the various situations that come up when you do this etc

    Fuck it, that’s just spam. Nothing we can learn about any Red Pill topics on this site from seeing THAT. No lessons about Hypergamy, looks/status, internal entitlement/confidence, etc to be learned there. Nope, delete that shit, it’ll undermine the Brand!! Now go out and make sure you buy a bunch of brightly colored blazers and $300 shoes because that’s how it REALLY works guise.

  40. ” . . . the Manosphere promotes entrepreneurship and living off the grid and building your own business, but god forbid someone actually does it right . . .”

    Rollo is not ignorant of brand building.

  41. I’d love to link some good hidden-cam high-quality perfect audio/lighting/etc infield from Rollo of him tearing up his bottle model events to discuss status/Hypergamy/looks/etc and for guys to learn from (undercover so he has the same low-status by default like the newbie in that video, you know, the one that any guy watching can relate to and be inspired by seeing him succeed in that clip) but until Rollo’s infield product comes out, I have to make do with what’s available and what’s available is a pretty fucking useful resource that I actively tell guys NOT to pay for.

    But hey fuck me and fuck RSD. Really fuck all the footage I link by anyone, better not link those Liam McRae or Gambler vids on laser eye-contact, those guys sell products.

    Better not link that video of a Valentino having an AMOG battle with a better looking guy and the girl actively choosing him over that guy since he sells products.

    Better not link that Future Leicester Square AMOG video where guys can see what spiking a girl’s Buying Temperature look like and how taking over their RAS makes them IGNORE better-looking more traditionally alpha/natural AMOGs for the person giving them more stimulus. Nothing to learn from THAT!

    Better not link any Keys to the VIP videos, they were commercial products aired on television, wouldn’t want to promote anything, there’s nothing we can learn from hidden infield camera footage of jacked rich AMOGs getting blown out and fucking up losing attraction from girls and scrawny little dudes getting attraction (and vice-versa, and WHY those things happen). Nothing that anyone could apply to taking their LTR out to a social event or helping guys have better internal mindsets about orbiters/AMOGs etc going for their LTR.

    And I sure as shit better not link any Mystery Method, the ultimate KINGPIN of commercialization, my god. Imagine the damage it would do if guys saw Mystery explaining how the looks/money thing doesn’t matter and that you can just socialize your way into high-value in the moment and trigger girls’ Hypergamy and force people to question “DO looks matter then?” or “but could a total newbie do that or do you have to be a pro like Tyler and Mystery?” (you know, like the newbie in that video that does it via Tyler’s instructions, showing that ANYONE can do this shit, you don’t need to be 10 years in or do it to the level Tyler does it, any of you can throw on a t-shirt and go blow Rollo’s mind at his bottle model events)

    Better not link any Krauser daygame infield, or wait, is that okay because Krauser is in the Manosphere? Just want to make sure I don’t break the rules and all, with all my spamming useless shit. Lemme know when the Rollo Infield product comes out so I can link safe videos!

    @kfg
    “Rollo is not ignorant of brand building.”

    Clearly, that’s why the RSD videos have to be deleted. I just didn’t think brand building was his primary purpose of this place after how much he made fun of Roosh and MMSL for it.

  42. @Rollo: would you be willing to clarify the reasons for the new policy on RSD videos?
    From your message I don’t understand it very clearly and it seems it is not to do with Spammer bots like the recent Amy one as I had thought.

    @YaReally: I imagine if Rollo doesn’t reconsider the RSD videos going forward you will soon move to a different comment section.

    Maybe
    https://www.trp.red/
    Could you let us know here if you move? I guess we could still track where you post through the archive, but still.

    1. Yep, that’s about what I expected would be your reaction. This is not a content decision it’s a context decision. You and anyone else are free to post whatever you do, but I will no longer allow direct video links to RSD. If you or “Tyler” want to work out some cobranding arrangement with TRM you can both contact me directly, but there’s no fucking gravy training going on here anymore.

      Look I like your input, and I think it provides a good balance of practical to what I go into, I’ve always said that, and if you actually followed anyone else in the PUA sphere in addition to RSD I might have more reason to think you’re genuine, but I know RSD is marketeering and TRM has a reputation that Owen’s attracted to. I’m not going to reveal my sources, but I will no longer allow this cobranding to go on.

  43. I see the one above now Sentient. That makes sense. I watched the (ostensible) “cold approach” videos before they were deleted and the thing that came to mind was…I think the majority of normal people in the real world would find this environment worse than a wire brush to the privates, or a fork in the eye. And this is, as a lifestyle, is supposedly the ANSWER?
    But I’m awash with confirmation bias.
    I live in the real world, and I’m trying to envision my 18 year old son going in and doing this. I just don’t see it. (plus, I’m among a lot of highly successful people and see a lot of model/model looking girlfriends, finances, and wives and none of this looks real to me…but again, maybe there’s some weird alternate reality world I’m not a part of)

  44. @Ya Really:

    You’re throwing a hissy fit.

    “I just didn’t think brand building was his primary purpose of this place after how much he made fun of Roosh and MMSL for it.”

    And perhaps that is why you don’t understand why this doesn’t make a lick of sense.

  45. Anon

    Don’t worry… Your 18yo normie son is not getting into any of these venues…

    Now maybe if he had an agent and a publicist and a private banker…

  46. @YaReally, in the blog game, the blog owners own the frame. If they change on a dime, we can’t do anything about it other than go to wordpress.com, start a free blog using an anonymous email, and start posting about anything. So, you start this free blog, choose a free blog template that looks nice to you, then simply create a post and start typing. The only difference from what you’re doing now would be, you saying, “Rollo had a post today at [insert url] that mentioned x, let’s dissect this and here is a youtube video that shows my points.” Lumpy was doing something similar, but you can do this whenever you want. We’ll bookmark your new site and read it daily and we can comment on the posts, something we can’t do with your current site.

    Get on it man. You’ve built a brand whether you meant to or not. It needs it’s own home.

  47. @Rollo
    “Yep, that’s about what I expected would be your reaction”

    I’m accused of being a shill or member of RSD and accused of purposely trying to undermine your site by you yourself, useful content I’ve spent hours writing up for guys has been deleted/fucked up, and for some reason I’m not reacting rainbows and sunshine about that. Shocker.

    “If you or “Tyler” want to work out some cobranding arrangement with TRM you can both contact me directly, but there’s no fucking gravy training going on here anymore.”

    Dude I don’t fucking KNOW Tyler. I would be amazed if he even knows the name “YaReally” because he has no reason to waste his time surfing the Manosphere. You have entered full fucking paranoia mode at this point. I have nothing to do with RSD, they just put out a shitload of legitimately good content because guys like you don’t go infield and record this shit for people to see and learn from.

    “Look I like your input, and I think it provides a good balance of practical to what I go into, ”

    Don’t bullshit me dude. It’s pretty clear now what you actually think of my input. At least own up to it like a red pill alpha male guru and all.

    “I’ve always said that, and if you actually followed anyone else in the PUA sphere in addition to RSD I might have more reason to think you’re genuine”

    I’ve linked a fuckload of other companies shit here over the years. RSD just puts out a dominant amount of quality content. You show me the Krauser video where he talks his way into the VIP table section at a nightclub and I’ll be happy to post that (and I even LINK Krauser videos). You show me the Roosh, London Daygame, etc guys breaking down concepts as concise as Tyler and I’ll be happy to post that. You put out your own infield demonstrating shit and I’ll be happy to post that.

    The fact that YOU ignore when I link Gambler, Krauser, Cupid Shmupid, Keys to the VIP, Simple Pickup, Liam McRae, James Marshall, Juggler, Paul Janka (I linked his shit the other day to someone), Mystery, etc etc etc and that YOU probably lump guys like Valentino/Alexander in with RSD because they’re copping the RSD style and you probably don’t know that they’re separate companies and Alex hates Tyler now etc but hey it all looks the same to you I’m sure, doesn’t mean I don’t “actually follow anyone else in the PUA sphere”.

    “but I know RSD is marketeering and TRM has a reputation that Owen’s attracted to. I’m not going to reveal my sources, but I will no longer allow this cobranding to go on.”

    lolololololol like Tyler gives a shit about the Manosphere. You guys have so little views compared to PUAs. You don’t even have a YouTube channel. I mean maybe he DOES want to approach your audience now that you have 5 years of content and reputation. But I was reading you from day one and I’ve been posting in the Manosphere since like 2011 (can’t remember lol) You think Tyler was trying to tap into Heartiste’s “black people should die and the jews control everything” audience?? That he played the long-con game sending me out to infiltrate the Manosphere for him all to capitalize on your success someday??

    fucking lol

    @newlyloof
    “YaReally, in the blog game, the blog owners own the frame. If they change on a dime, we can’t do anything about it other than go to wordpress”

    I agree completely. Like I say I just didn’t realize that the brand was the priority here. When I found Rollo’s first articles I was like “wow, this is a guy who gets a lot of this shit and he writes really well, I’m bookmarking this shit”. I didn’t realize that somewhere along the way getting the actual truth of how this stuff works became second priority to maintaining a brand and giving a shit about who’s linking your work and where and deleting content for dem ad revenue bucks is king. Looks like the exact same shit Roosh, MMSL, etc do. Just didn’t expect that from “I have my own businesses I don’t need any money from this I just do this from the good of my heart” Rollo of all people.

    “Get on it man. You’ve built a brand whether you meant to or not. It needs it’s own home.”

    I don’t want a brand or to run a home, that’s why I post in comment sections. Because this is 100% a time-sink for me. I get a bit of benefit in that I get to refresh game concepts for myself when I write about them and get a better idea of how to express my ideas more clearly etc to help my buddies out in real life, and this is a fun hobby for me, but I don’t want to build a brand or run an empire. When I started out I was going to just make random usernames every time I posted because I didn’t want people to base their opinion of my content on my reputation, just take the writing for what it says and try applying it infield, but that turned out to be a hassle and once Lumpy contacted me I was like ok I’ll just stay as YaReally.

    Hell, that’s WHY Lumpy archived my shit for me, ’cause I didn’t want to start or maintain a blog. I don’t even know the guy, he just came out of nowhere and hit me up with an automatic archive thing and handles it all himself ’cause he’s just a genuinely nice dude who wanted to preserve useful content. Wait maybe he’s also an RSD shill getting paid to archive all of Tyler’s content secretly through my posts! Oh shit Lumpy we’ve been found out bro!!!

    That’s why I don’t have an eBook for sale or anything, I don’t want to maintain any of that shit or come up with topics to talk about. Oh wait it must be because I’m making sick bank with my cross-promo from Tyler while he sucks my dick lol No one would just want to HELP other guys, THAT’S crazy. You totally got me. Hank, Scribblerg, Culum, Wala, Forge, I’m just grooming you guys so I can make you take RSD bootcamps, all of my writing was just a scam to promote RSD to you, I can’t believe you guys thought I actually, you know, legitimately cared that Wala couldn’t get over his BPD ex and her games, or that I gave a shit about scribblerg being at the lowest point of his life and linking him videos and content to help him get past his old age insecurities and enjoy his life again, or actually cared about hank progressing, or give a shit about Softek being in his shitty relationship and how that’s going to end, you guys fell for my puppet-master manipulation, how many bootcamps have you guys taken, dozens yet?? Better sign up for more, I gotta get my Tyler royalties!!

    @IAS
    “Could you let us know here if you move?”

    Don’t know what I’ll do yet but I’m sure as fuck not typing out a 500 paragraph transcript of an RSD video with no advertising in it when I could just say “here, check this 10 minute video out and it’ll help you get over your looks insecurities and keep your girlfriend attracted”.

  48. @YaReally: you linked Janka’s book for me, I asked about subway game.

    Anyway, it is a big inconvenience but I think you are taking this too personally as well. No point getting annoyed about it (I recommend Stoicism).

    Rollo may be paranoid but with the chances of getting doxxed etc. it pays to be paranoid.

    @Rollo: for what is worth, I don’t think YaReally being a shill adds up – he spends way too much time giving advice that isn’t “monetized” in any way for that to make sense to me.

  49. Whatever the *context*, whoever ‘YaReally’ actually is, whoever ‘Rollo Tomassi’ actually is – I have no clue. You both want anonymity, you both are proficient writers and thinkers such that you’re both widely known, and you’ve kept that anonymity AFAIK. That’s impressive…

    Here’s what I think this is about – the “E” word….

    Ready for it?…..

    …..ETHICS !

    Let’s set aside the prospective motivations of YaReally or Rollo Tomassi – and just focus on Owen Cook, AKA Tyler.

    He’s the face of RSD. He controls everything RSD.

    I have never met Owen and have no idea how valid his claims are, whether or not he uses paid actresses in his footage, etc…

    What I do know is that there is an extensive track record of NOBODY trusting him.

    He’s been accused of being UNETHICAL – over and over again. Do I have personal knowledge of him acting unethically? No. Have I read more accounts than I can remember of him acting unethically and pulling all kinds of extensive scheming Macchiavellian shit on even bottom-rung workshop attendees who tried to take him up on his (I guess, temporary) money-back guarantee. I remember reading his responses to these poor schlubs’ claims – they…did not add up, that’s as neutral as I can put it.

    Ethics matter. And they always will. Maybe that’s why Rollo got pissed off and made a change.

  50. @IAS
    “Anyway, it is a big inconvenience but I think you are taking this too personally as well.”

    This is 100% personal to me. We all know he’s not talking about someone else. Dude is flat out calling me a paid shill here to undermine his blog. Like I haven’t been linking vids from a ton of companies since day one over on Heartiste. RSD just puts out daily videos and cover the range of topics. I’ll be happy to link Mystery’s latest video, oh wait, he hasn’t put out a new video in fucking forever. I’ll link some Simple Pickup vids, oh wait they don’t have a good video that covers being an older guy learning to attract young women. I’ll link Rollo’s infield, oh wait he doesn’t make any.

    It’s not MY fault other companies haven’t stepped up to RSD’s level or that Tyler is just smart about flooding the market with their content the same way Sandman does or that that content just HAPPENS to be REALLY fucking useful and free.

    “Rollo may be paranoid but with the chances of getting doxxed etc. it pays to be paranoid.”

    Ya I was the one that warned him the RVF doxxed him back when they turned on him to try to help him, just like I warn the rest of you guys about that shit. But hey, all part of my scam to get you guys to sign up for Tyler bootcamps really!

    @Joe K
    “I have never met Owen and have no idea how valid his claims are”

    He’d be the first to tell you to go out infield and try what he says out for yourself. ’cause that’s how the oldschool mASF community WAS. I don’t care if he does shady business stuff, he’s probably a huge fucking douchebag and he was a manipulative sperglord for years till he got older and chilled out (check his vibe now VS the old David DeAngelo days).

    All that matters to me is that the things that he says hold up infield and help guys handle their shit (internal and external). I’m not giving him my money and I encourage other guys NOT to give him their money either. Just take the useful FREE content and go apply it and change your fucking life so you don’t end up a MGTOW, MRA, suicide case asking Rollo for help when shit falls apart for you etc

    Or don’t, it’s your life lol

  51. @YaReally

    You missed my point, which was that Rollo MIGHT care if Owen does shady business stuff. Especially if he *simply believes* that he does have legit word-of-mouth info pertaining to what he wrote above, even if that’s not the case (e.g. if someone were lying to him). Can’t you see that perspective?

    Anyway, maybe if Rollo was willing to say ‘Yeah, I have an issue with Owen’ and YaReally were willing to say ‘OK dude, I’ll post content from any other PUA outfit going forward then’ – things could get back on track. Just a suggestion.

  52. @Joe K
    “Can’t you see that perspective?”

    Except that he’s CLEARLY implying that I’m working for Tyler or profit/benefit in some way from posting RSD vids. That’s what the “you or Tyler can contact me for a promo deal” shit is about.

    “Anyway, maybe if Rollo was willing to say ‘Yeah, I have an issue with Owen’ and YaReally were willing to say ‘OK dude, I’ll post content from any other PUA outfit going forward then’ – things could get back on track. Just a suggestion.”

    If anyone can show me another PUA outfit that has infield of them in HD with perfect lighting/audio coaching a newbie into befriending a jacked dude with a table of girls into letting him use their table and mack their girls, I’ll be MORE THAN HAPPY to link that. Anyone got any links of that for me to link instead? Anyone? Rollo, you got video of this coming out? Or you got any videos from your “accepted PUA resources” that are okay to link from for me to link instead?

    There IS no other PUA outfit putting a video like that out for me to link. Which means now I have to try to textually describe and transcript the whole fucking thing for guys to try to guess in their mind what it looks like and still not believe it because they don’t actually see it.

  53. @theasdgamer
    “Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?”

    Personally I assumed the benefits of the reader came before the rest of those. Same way I’ll link videos from guys I don’t even like like Roosh if he puts out a video that shows something solid. All that matters to me is helping the guys who are looking to avoid being the next Elliot Rogers or George Sodini or suicide victim or sad nerd who spends 30 years dreaming of being able to get girls without having to hire a hooker to pretend she’s attracted or divorce-rape victim after a guy stops triggering Hypergamy and she goes War Bride on him (#NOTALLMARRIAGES)…I don’t care where that content comes from.

    But Roosh isn’t putting out videos of him making out with 21yo girls for me to link Scribblerg to help him feel confident that his age/looks don’t matter.

    But I guess that’s why I’m not the author of a successful Brand(TM).

  54. Just my 2 cents…

    When my BP life was in the shitter 9ish mos ago, it was the academic content in TRM that was like a light in the darkness that kept me [mostly] sane- or at least from chewing on a bullet. But that academic light only goes so far… YaReally’s detailed explanations coupled with the RSD content showed- and continues to show- the practical applications I never understood. It would be a shame to decouple the practical from theory.

  55. @theasdgamer: I’d say readers benefit the most, because it saves us time. RSD posts a ton of videos and very long ones. I spent some minutes trying to find the situation YaReally is talking about on a recent video and didn’t find it yet.

    Better content in the comments section gives some indirect benefits to everyone though. Rollo gets more repeat visits for sure, and possible more new visits to the site (if that matters to him, he isn’t really monetizing the site beyond advertising his own books, but almost all of that content is free on the site anyway). RSD gets more visits on their YT link which presumably they monetize directly, but I doubt that is a big revenue stream for them. YaReally gets a bit more reputation for being knowledgeable, but assuming he isn’t a shill (which I really think makes little sense) he isn’t monetizing it.

  56. @theasdgamer
    “Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?”

    In fact the better question is: who LOSES OUT more with no free RSD vids allowed here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? Me?

    I can tell you which one loses out the most. By a fucking MILE. My mistake was thinking that mattered over ego wars and ad bucks.

  57. @IAS
    “@theasdgamer: I’d say readers benefit the most, because it saves us time. RSD posts a ton of videos and very long ones. I spent some minutes trying to find the situation YaReally is talking about on a recent video and didn’t find it yet.”

    Type “RSD tyler taxi” into YouTube, it’s the first interaction with the girl in the cab. Note Tyler’s messy hair, plain t-shirt, etc and the mindsets he’s describing (in terms of not being attached to the outcome, feeling entitled to get physical and escalate, etc).

    BE CAREFUL, AT THE VERY END OF THE VIDEO HE TALKS ABOUT HIS PRODUCT!!! SORRY IF THIS COUNTS AS PROMOTION ROLLO!!!!!111

  58. @IAS
    From that video even (part of why I have these all memorized is because when I link them I let them play in the background while I do other shit after I post lol):

    “Is there anything here that if I had more money, would help this girl (that he’s carrying off into an alleyway to makeout with) to be even MORE attracted? What if I was like yo girl wait hold up just so you knowwww I make moneyyyyy!! Would that help?

    Would it make a difference if I was better looking? Would this girl be even MORE receptive? Would she be like “you’re really good-looking! For the redhead 5’9″ guy I just let him drag me behind the building and get it on but for the REALLY good-looking guy I’d fuck him right on the street! Would that happen? No.”

    “What this shows you is that there’s an entire society of men running around, running a rat race thinking that they’re gonna do THIS (pulling young girls to fuck) when they get to a certain point. And it’s SO fucking EASY to get what they want, it’s ridiculous.”

    Ya, nothing in there that’s relevant to any topics TRM covers like looks/money being relevant or triggering Hypergamy or internal self confident and entitlement and outcome dependence. Nope, just SPAM, GO SIGN UP FOR BOOTCAMPS OR I CAN’T PAY MY BILLS EVERYONE!!!!1111 Much more productive to talk about Emily’s latest boyfriend drama.

  59. @YaReally @Rollo – everyone else

    What just happened on this thread?

    I’m still crazy busy with work – unusually so for a Blitz (so not much going out or reading TRM) – but I just glanced at the comments on this thread and it seems to have gone surreal with the RSD stuff.

    Rollo, I have no idea why you’ve banned RSD videos. I’m sure you have your reasons and you’re not obliged to reveal them, but as I’m sure you realize, it just looks bizarre and arbitrary to those of us reading along without more details. Speaking for myself I got a lot of value out of them (and years of watching what YaReally linked to meant I did actually go to a paid RSD Hot Seat and I believe it was money well spent). So I guess someone like me is the target of their advertising – but I don’t see how that automatically equates to YaReally being a shill for some RSD marketing campaign on TRM (and I think the free content is valuable whether or not you pay for other stuff).

    But like I said – I’m sure you have your reasons. It just looks really strange to the rest of us. Even if YaReally IS a paid shill for Tyler, that still doesn’t change the fact that his posts (and relevant RSD videos he posts) are incredibly useful to me and the guys here. I can see why YaReally is taking it personally.

    And more generally regarding YaReally – I’ve posted this before and so have other guys, but I’ve benefited enormously from his posts over the years and combined with TRM (for the inner game stuff, the Red Pill, the meaning of hypergamy), his writings have literally made me a better man, with a vision of what I’m working towards (not to mention saved me from a very close brush with a potential FRA report last year which I was able to defuse with near real-time advice from YaReally and HABD).

    I know you haven’t banned YaReally (only RSD links) but I just wanted to reiterate that he adds an incredible amount of value here and I hugely appreciate his contribution.

    It’s funny actually because I actually see more similarities between you and YaReally than differences – both of you have this fantastic understanding of sexual market dynamics (from different perspectives, both valuable) and both of you have this incredible passion and drive to spread that knowledge and empathy for other men, and drive to help other men for zero profit to yourselves – basically both of you clearly have a strong sense of mission – it comes out so clearly when you write about guys you help with taking the Red Pill or YaReally talks about the guys he helps in real life to get good with girls (and on here).

  60. @YaReally, you don’t have to make a cent man, but you have proven your desire to help other dudes, so having your own FREE BLOG THAT TAKES 5 MINUTES TO SET UP, will let you do that without having to worry about censorship or outing yourself. Everything is automatic with WordPress. if you can type into MS Word, you can run a blog. Seriously, set up time is 5 minutes, then you log in, click the button to do a new post, type, hit publish, and it’s out there. The site I created with your summary was simple to set up. DID I MENTION HOW SIMPLE IT IS TO SET U A WORDPRESS BLOG! Again, you don’t have to monitize shit, but you get to still help out dudes, still get to comment about Rollo’s posts, and still get to link to RSD videos if they are relevant, and nobody can stop you.

    I’d hate not seeing your comments. I followed you and Sentient over here from Heartiste.

  61. @YaReally: I don’t think anyone, Rollo included, is questioning there is tons of value in those RSD videos.

    Rollo just doesn’t want to be associated with them at this stage for whatever reasons.

    Also, I take at face value what Rollo said numerous times about your posts bringing value to the site. It doesn’t make sense to me that you are a shill, but it also doesn’t make sense to me that Rollo actually doesn’t like your content (FR breakdowns and so on).

    Rollo said
    “Look I like your input, and I think it provides a good balance of practical to what I go into, ”

    YaReally replied
    “Don’t bullshit me dude. It’s pretty clear now what you actually think of my input. At least own up to it like a red pill alpha male guru and all.”

    Just as one relevant example, Rollo uses some of your comments to write new entries (there was even a fairly recent one which I’m sure you remember). This shows clearly he does value your input, despite disagreeing with some bits (like the looks matters stuff).

  62. Googling for a way to link RSD videos without increasing their view count on them (if that’s the thing that has Rollo’s panties in a twist, like that they’re getting 10 extra views from the guys here who actually click and watch the videos lol), but I can’t find a way to do that.

    People use archive sites to link articles without giving the site clicks/views but it looks like there’s no way to do that on YouTube. I don’t even know if that would help chill Rollo out if I could do it, but if I could I would link every RSD video through that cause the free content helps guys and that’s all I care about. That video of the girl with the cab has a handful of free clips in it that show fucking GREAT stuff internal AND external with infield reactions from girls…anyone who thinks that isn’t relevant to the stuff talked about on TRM, like, I dunno what to tell ya.

    @Culum Struan
    “and both of you have this incredible passion and drive to spread that knowledge and empathy for other men, and drive to help other men for zero profit to yourselves”

    That’s how I viewed it too. Looks like things have changed.

  63. @newlyaloof
    “so having your own FREE BLOG THAT TAKES 5 MINUTES TO SET UP, will let you do that without having to worry about censorship or outing yourself”

    Easier to get doxxed once you spread out past comment sections and I don’t want to come up with topics to talk about or moderate a comment section for spam etc That’s why I’ve just hung out in comment sections from the start. I’m just a part of the discussion and keeping shit in check when people make claims that the field doesn’t back up (by linking video showing the opposite infield). I have zero desire to sit down and write articles for a handful of dudes who happen to hear about my blog in some corner of the internet. I wouldn’t even have an archive if it wasn’t for Lumpy volunteering his time/effort, you’d have to look through every comment section page and search for my name to find all my writing lol

    On top of that how long before Rollo says “no linking to YaReally’s responses to me, too many RSD videos on there”? No point writing in a place no one visits, that’s not going to help many guys. Half the people who benefit from my shit are the lurkers here who don’t speak up ’cause they don’t want to get involved but are learning from what they read.

    Just not worth the effort to me to blog. I do this stuff because I like to help and it’s fun (PLUS THE PHAT T-DAWG CASH I MAKE OF COURSE), but realistically I’m still building my career/wealth (in an industry completely unrelated to pickup lol) and I’d rather focus my time on that than start a blog. Commenting is nice and low-effort.

    @IAS
    “Rollo just doesn’t want to be associated with them at this stage for whatever reasons.”

    His implication was that I’m benefitting from promoting their shit and my posting is some kind of free advertising for them.

    “It doesn’t make sense to me that you are a shill, but it also doesn’t make sense to me that Rollo actually doesn’t like your content (FR breakdowns and so on).”

    Who fucking knows? Maybe the FRs should all go too. What say you, Rollo? Damn PUAs just fuckin everything up going out and testing Red Pill theory infield and showing that even your regular readers can improve their lives with direct application of this stuff and sharing that with everyone to keep eachother inspired and motivated to understand the Red Pill and women and Hypergamy etc better.

    “Just as one relevant example, Rollo uses some of your comments to write new entries (there was even a fairly recent one which I’m sure you remember).”

    That’s why you’d think he would understand that sometimes it’s worth linking the useful content of someone you don’t particularly like when there’s a good point to be made from that content.

    “This shows clearly he does value your input, despite disagreeing with some bits (like the looks matters stuff).”

    No worries about the looks matter thing. He can put out “TRM Book 4: Get Rich & Jacked” next now that no one can post nice clear HD perfect undeniable evidence of a scrawny (or fat depending on the year lol) short balding old bearded weirdo getting 3-way makeouts with 21yo’s since NO ONE (especially guys coming from the blue pill) is going to believe me when I textually describe “trust me guise, Tyler pulled this girl out of a taxi and he had messy hair and she totally made out with him!!!” Gotta tighten up that hugbox of theory before guys start questioning the FI!

  64. Alright, seeing as there’s no practical way to just ban videos I’ve reinstated the old posts. And I’ll lift the ban, but I will be adding a disclaimer to TRM’s footer that state this site is not an endorsement of RSD in particular.

    I understand guys get value from the links, and as I’ve said before I don’t have any disagreement with the material, but I do understand that RSD is a business and outreach is part of that business model. I’ve never monetized this site (beyond making the books available) and I have no plans to, but TRM has a reputation for integrity in the RP sphere and that has a value all its own. I will not have TRM’s value-by-association be a springboard for other’s for-profit sites. If I ban other people for spamming here with their penis enlargement products and yet turn a blind eye to the direct association RSD has with TRM (via YaReally’s endless advertising for them) what does that say about that integrity?

    There has not been a post I’ve made in the last 14 months that hasn’t had a link to RSD posted in the comment threads. I understand that’s all about educational purposes, but there is literally no other association. I make a post referencing NIck Krauser and the entire discussion is rerouted to being about how his term for an RSD term is incorrect and RSD ought to be the benchmark for semantics – not the idea itself, but how it ought to correctly align with RSD.

    I will not have TRM’s value be dictated by any outside source. RSD is a marketeering juggernaut and that’s their business, and I’m fine with that, but I will not have the discussion here directed by what’s acceptable to RSD. They have their blogs and forums and youtube channel available for their own messaging – most of which I would endorse wholeheartedly – but I will not allow TRM’s discourse to be one more avenue to direct their message.

  65. @Rollo: major thanks from me personally.

    I haven’t seen much from Krauser myself, and I know you have him on your blogroll so you must respect him.

    YaReally doesn’t always put Krauser down – there was a recent post by him where he suggested one of Krauser’s products to someone:
    https://therationalmale.com/2016/11/16/shes-unhaapppy/comment-page-4/#comment-179608

    Also just prior to that, to me specifically, Janka at the end of this long post:
    https://therationalmale.com/2016/11/16/shes-unhaapppy/comment-page-3/#comment-179326
    and here
    https://therationalmale.com/2016/11/16/shes-unhaapppy/comment-page-3/#comment-179328
    where Krauser is also mentioned (if not in a positive light, at least neutral)

    He also routinely posts a link to a LaRuina (Gambler) clip and a few specific Liam McRae videos.

    I understand what RSD are up to (making money), and Owen’s ethics may be questionable to some (right from Style’s description of him in “The Game”) but his videos are really great, of the RSD guys he makes me laugh the most by far (maybe because I’m a bit spergy myself).

    RSD really puts out a lot of material (marketing juggernauts indeed), which is why YaReally’s “curation” of the best material is so good for me.

  66. @Rollo
    “Alright, seeing as there’s no practical way to just ban videos I’ve reinstated the old posts. And I’ll lift the ban, but I will be adding a disclaimer to TRM’s footer that state this site is not an endorsement of RSD in particular.”

    I can literally post at the top of any post I link RSD vids in or under each vid “TRM DOES NOT ENDORSE RSD” whenever I post if you want. Seriously, I don’t care, as long as guys see/hear what the video is teaching.

    “If I ban other people for spamming here with their penis enlargement products and yet turn a blind eye to the direct association RSD has with TRM (via YaReally’s endless advertising for them) what does that say about that integrity?”

    If you think the **FREE** RSD content that guys who’ve spoke up about have talked about how useful has been to them, is the equivalent of penis pill spam, then I dunno what to say.

    “I understand that’s all about educational purposes, but there is literally no other association.”

    IAS just said I linked him Paul Janka’s stuff. I link tons of other content.

    “I make a post referencing NIck Krauser and the entire discussion is rerouted to being about how his term for an RSD term is incorrect and RSD ought to be the benchmark for semantics”

    That’s because it IS incorrect. If it wasn’t incorrect I wouldn’t have said anything. AND I referenced Mystery Method as much as RSD in that. I said Mystery Method a thousand fucking times in that comment section and that what Krauser was doing was just properly executing Mystery Method.

    “not the idea itself, but how it ought to correctly align with RSD.”

    Surely you understand how calling “push/pull” by that term across the entire PUA sphere, and then Krauser calling it “increase/decrease” and you call it “advance/retreat” and Roosh calls it “vehicle/applesauce”, is confusing for newbies to the Red Pill who ALREADY have a ton of new ideas and content to take in and keep straight.

    I’d LOVE if I could go “actually Krauser is just executing Mystery Method properly” and “looks don’t matter” and people went “that’s a great point YaReally, I agree!” but instead I get a shitload of pushback (including from you) and I have to post a bunch of shit to show what I’m talking about. But you ignore all my references to MM and focus on the RSD because Tyler’s good at marketing and puts out content that you and the rest of the Manosphere and 99% of the PUA-sphere don’t put out.

    Without properly understanding these things your books will be inaccurate content. That inaccurate content will live on for generations and continue to feed the FI-conditioned system that has guys needing your content in the first place, until we can get guys to break out of their conditioning and go “ohhh, this IS just Mystery Method, I GET it now” and “ohhh, looks DON’T matter, I GET it now”, and unfortunately no one will listen to my textual description of that and Mystery doesn’t put out many infield videos for me to link while the RSD guys put out daily videos.

  67. @YaReally @Rollo,

    YaReally, from now on, you could simple say, “To illustrate this, check out the video labeled [insert name of video on youtube] and watch from 5 minutes to 10 minutes.” We can simply open a new tab on our own and search for that video. Hell, you don’t even have to mention RSD if their video title does from now on. You can use code, like “check out “the R guys” video called [insert video name on youtube], etc.”

    I could be wrong, but I think you can append the attribute “follow=nofollow” inside any url and it won’t count this url link as a regular link that benefits the person you are linking to.

  68. @all

    watching californication. great show. i watched it just for pua stuff, but its actually a good show. waay more story and plot than i thought they would be. 7 or 8/10 for me so far.

    and also hank has a very similar style to me (go figure lol) so i will have to rewatch it specifically on the girl parts.

    whole show is super RP…his long time gf ditching him for the rich beta…the redhead who ends up sleeping with him even though he nuked her from orbit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWJhAOnJIzI

    lol. I want to do that just for the reaction lol don’t even care if I get the girl. To me getting a reaction like that is the same as successfully getting a girl to number close or opening a girl on headphones for the first time. Its never really about the girl per se, more about the experience of it and making progress.

    and also hank has really good calibration. he knows when to add a bit of comfort and be like hey yeah i am an asshole then get super serious for a sec…and then drop in a sex joke lol.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiD73jDozXk

    hank moody is a huge inspiration for hank holiday

    @FIWL

    Another very conservative girl i was gaming when i went on a date with her, i touched her in most places like touching her belt,legs as if she was my own property. she didn’t say anything during the date but later when she was messaging told me that she didn’t like me touching her.

    okay, this is likely different. my guess is the liked in in the moment. however, AFTER the fact, wen she was without you, she reflected on what happened AND THEN she felt like a slut and complained.

    if you had run something like “hey, its perfectly normal that people touch each other. people shake hands, give hugs, all that stuff all the time. this is no different.” and then made a more obvious effort to want to be with her and star something, then she would have that perspective of “nah its cool, its normal” to drown out her ASD thats screaming at her
    “you let a strange man touch you??!? YOU SLUT!”

    so on these conservative girls, girls are girls. they like to be touched. BUT later she’s gonna have major ASD so you have to fight against this.

    you can still work this particular girl. just say shit like above “hey its cool. touching is normal. its what people do. if you don’t like it we don’t have to do it anymore.” then in person spike her bt until she’s horny, then start touching her again.

    If you kiss her I’d say something like “there’s just something about you. I don’t know why, but I like you. I keep thinking about you.” to give her the sense that she’s hooked you. Again, a conservative girl is gonna have crazy asd so you need to give her excuses so she can tell herself “hey this is normal and this guy really seems to love me so this is okay its nothing bad.” just be aware of that going forward.

    I ran Boyfriend destroyer on a girl i know just because i had her number and wanted to try to get an experience how it would work.

    She replied saying
    “There is no right person or a perfect match.. it’s just about two people, whether they both want to be together or not.”

    so big pua shit. kinda like how girls don’t really do anything if they like what you’re doing, there also is rarely a green flashing light of “hey fucker! this girl is 100% open to this pua technique.” what actually happens is you have openings and you take those to the next opening.

    i used an example a while back of climbing. while you or i need fancy equipment to climb, free climbers can ascend shher cliffs by grasping tiny little clefts and bumbs that you or i can’t even SEE. same with chicks…there are thes little openings that are juuuuuusst enough to pull yourself a liiitle further.

    so with this chick you can work. just keep with the bf destroyer stuff. #1 YOLO “yeah life is short. had a good friend die recently. you never know when its all gonna end so you want to make sure you are living life to the fullest #2 compliment bf while making him actually seems like a beta loser and describe yourself as a bad bf but actually seem a sexy bad boy “but it sounds you won the jackpot with your bf. he buys you everything you want, he’s always there for you, he expresses his eotions to you. what more could you want? me, lol, i have all these exs that hate me lol. i’m a shitty ass boyfriend for sure. like just the other day i was partying with some strippers. so yeah, a guy like your bf is a rare honest guy you can count on. you lucked out.”

    basic principle is that if you insult her bf, she’ll instinctively think of all the good things about him. BUT if you compliment him, she’ll think of all the bad thing about him.

    add to that girls hate predictable men and love mysterious sexy men.

    @yareally

    I always always always tell guys to get their products without paying (but I don’t actively say “TORRENT THAT SHIT FOR FREE” because I don’t want Rollo’s to promote piracy on Rollo’s site), I NEVER say buy an RSD product and I ALWAYS link AROUND their advertisements and say “skip to this part, then skip to this part”.

    lol. like i said, never paid for rsd product, not going to.

    @rollo

    I’ve always said that, and if you actually followed anyone else in the PUA sphere in addition to RSD I might have more reason to think you’re genuine, but I know RSD is marketeering and TRM has a reputation that Owen’s attracted to. I’m not going to reveal my sources, but I will no longer allow this cobranding to go on.

    Okay I am gonna be honest with you since your site changed my life and without all this shit I’m honestly not sure I would still be around right now. I have mad respect for what you write and what you do.

    I still remember when I found your site. I watched this guy on twitch.tv and he dropped off the face of the earth. I was like, wtf? Figured out he went to a game show and his girlfriend went around and gave handjobs to a bunch of dudes and slept with the guy’s best friend. I found this on the red pill reddit.

    I thought the girl was just represed as they were mormon. Guys there were talking about hypergamy and shit and how all girls are sluts and all this game stuff. I didn’t belive it. Found a link to your site and the rest is history. I was very naive back then lol.

    Now this current shit all happened since you just out of the blue deleted vids and yareally’s long post (and that shit takes hours to write). There was no warning, so discussion of “hey guys, I really don’t like all this rsd vids. Could we stop linking so many” and I am sure something could be worked out. Instead, you just punch a motherfucker in the face and are surprised when the guy wants to hit you back.

    As far as yareally *only* following RSD, that is complete and utter bullshit. About a month ago I was writing about the James Marshal and Gambler and Liam McCray vids yareally posted. There was a long discussion of GLL and his vids. And he pretty reguarly links to the original MM videos. Sure, RSD is the majority, but yareally definitely follows other guys. Its just that, and I agree, RSD tends to have the most informative and most clearly shot videos, so in most cases, their videos are the best to illustrate key points.

    I dunno man, I’m still gonna read your stuff since it is so helpful to understand the world, but I don’t like the way the comment section is headed and I feel like us pua guys are gonna end up reloacting to another site. I stopped reading CH’s comment since they were all just racist shit, it seems like there’s gonna be a similar deal here but with censoring. This was, and is, one of the best comment sections on the manosphere and I hate to see anything happen to it.

    No hate, just tough love.

    @culum @yareally @rollo

    But like I said – I’m sure you have your reasons. It just looks really strange to the rest of us. Even if YaReally IS a paid shill for Tyler, that still doesn’t change the fact that his posts (and relevant RSD videos he posts) are incredibly useful to me and the guys here. I can see why YaReally is taking it personally.

    And more generally regarding YaReally – I’ve posted this before and so have other guys, but I’ve benefited enormously from his posts over the years and combined with TRM (for the inner game stuff, the Red Pill, the meaning of hypergamy), his writings have literally made me a better man, with a vision of what I’m working towards (not to mention saved me from a very close brush with a potential FRA report last year which I was able to defuse with near real-time advice from YaReally and HABD).

    yeah about sums it up

    @newly

    @YaReally, you don’t have to make a cent man, but you have proven your desire to help other dudes, so having your own FREE BLOG THAT TAKES 5 MINUTES TO SET UP, will let you do that without having to worry about censorship or outing yourself.

    yeah, but who is there? yareally is best here because he can help people who come here. guys NEW to red pill are gonna come here, its been around for years and is well established. a long yareally post on looks no mattering will help the random lurkers that come here.

    I mean, I have tons of guys following my FRs here. When ever guys like playdontpay gave me shit for posting tons of FRs, I was shocked from all the regulars that said they read all my FRs. I can’t imagine all the lurkers who read it too and are going out and starting to change their lives as well.

    And PS any lurkers post your FRs because you will get even better if guys can give you feedback.

    no, yareally is best with no blog, as just a guy who comments on sites and helps guys out. Guys who already heard of yareally don’t need his help anywhere near as much as they guys who haven’t

    I mean, I found out about yareally from seeing him in the comments here and on CH, and THEN i looked up his archive.

    If he vanishes from the comment section, how many new guys are gonna find him?

    Nah, he’s best here in comments.

    @IAS

    Also, I take at face value what Rollo said numerous times about your posts bringing value to the site. It doesn’t make sense to me that you are a shill, but it also doesn’t make sense to me that Rollo actually doesn’t like your content (FR breakdowns and so on).

    So what about links to Roosh’s stuff? Yareally has linked that before, does that mean Rollo supports roosh? Its a ridiculous suggestion.

    Just because you TALK about an idea doesn’t mean you support it.

    I mean, I personally think tyler is a little shady too, but his vids are legit and helpful. If I see one of RSD’s products, such as PIMP, why do you think I **ahem** just come across a copy lol?

    As opposed to Rollos books which I paid money for since I like the guy and support what he does 100%.

    There’s plenty of people who I have issues with personally or their business practices, but if they have free shit that helps guys out, why not use them to help out the guys who need it most?

  69. Oh well, I don’t do pickup so I don’t mind no RSD videos, but I got to admit, they were/are mind-blowing and I greatly appreciate Yareally’s input on everything, and of course, Rollo’s too.

    When I analyze things like this I always ask – “who’s got the most to win/lose”

    Looks like the OMGs win…

  70. @rollo
    Thanks man. Understand none of us would have gotten so worked up over this shit if this site wasn’t so important to us. I hope you understand where we are coming from and don’t take it personally.

    Thanks again for all the shit that you do. It changed so many guys lives, mine included.

  71. @pua

    Other thing I noticed, with the redhead. How Hank Moody was wrong about a lot of his cold read (she wasn’t a cheap martha stewart, she’s a lawyer). However, he got one main thing right (that she couldn’t bag the guy she liked, and instead he married the next girl). That was ALL THAT MATTERED. She only noted that he was right on that part, and ignored the rest (though she still registered the stuff he was wrong on as taking her down a peg)

    yeah definitely going back over this stuff once I finish the first three seasons.

  72. One last thing and then I have to go get ready for tonight:

    The reason I take the shilling accusations personally is because every accusation ruins the credibility of my archive. Every accusation, especially coming from *THE* ROLLO TOMASSI HIMSELF, not some random hater that just pops out to accuse me or some regular commenter who disagrees with me, but from Rollo the guy who’s name carries all sorts of Manosphere weight…every accusation lets guys who ALREADY DON’T WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT I’M SAYING or what RSD is demonstrating in their infields, go “I KNEW it!! Just a paid shill for RSD!! I knew those RSD guys were scam-artists!!” and that guy, who could have turned his fucking life around by reading parts of my archive or watching some of RSDs videos, has Rollo-endorsed incentive to double-down on his limiting beliefs and social conditioning and never get past the Purple Pill keyboard jockey theory stage, or just dismiss all this shit entirely.

    That’s a big deal. Do you guys have ANY FUCKING IDEA how hard it is to convince a Scribblerg that his age doesn’t matter to girls and that an older man with a bit of a belly can still attract young women and he should cold approach them??? Or to convince Hank that he has actual potential when the rest of his life is shittying on him, and that he can actually get girls attracted to him??? Or to convince Culum to get off those fucking sugardaddy sites because I KNOW can get attraction in real life?? Or to get Walawala to NOT take the bait his BPD ex throws at him and keep running back to her??

    It’s hard as FUCK, because they don’t WANT to believe that stuff.

    They (at first) WANT to believe I’m full of shit, they WANT me to be some RSD shill that they can discount and skip past all the “obviously fake” RSD infield. Because that stuff threatens their entire understanding of the world around them and it’s SO MUCH EASIER for Scribblerg to just not try and to just be some lame old man that dies feeling worthless, or for Hank to stay in and just be depressed and slit his wrists, or for Wala to keep going back to that BPD chick till Rollo is posting his divorce-rape story as an example for us to talk about 10 years from now.

    The guys typing in “why did my marriage break up?” “what is Hypergamy” “how do I get a girlfriend” “why did my girlfriend cheat on me with that better looking guy” “i’m suicidal and never going to get a girlfriend because I was born short/asian/etc” etc are the guys who NEED to see this stuff shoved in their face and HAVE their limiting beliefs ripped apart so they can get out of the dark spiral they’re usually headed down that leads to places NONE of us want to see men end up.

    So ya, sorry if anyone thinks I’m throwing a hissy-fit but I DO take it to heart when Rollo throws some credibillty assassination my way like it’s nothing.

  73. @Yareally

    I’ve been watching a lot of the Craig Ferguson videos recently. You mentioned Russell Brand and Craig being impossible to AMOG in a comment here:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/amog-tit-grab/#comment-463932

    I stumbled across some interesting videos where Russell Brand came on Craig’s show. Some interesting AMOG dynamics here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VSgHwEKFts&t=1852s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkfwCJegVE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yq5XvmrUeA

    By the third interview I think Craig realizes Russell Brand can’t really be stopped he can only be contained.

    Although starting around 3:40 in the third video Russell Brand gives a Craig “a game recognizes game” comment

  74. @newlyaloof @Rollo
    No idea what a nofollow is exactly or how to do it but someone let me know exactly how to link a nofollow YouTube video and I’ll be happy to add ?=nofollow or whatever to every RSD vid I post from here on out lol EVEN THOUGH IT MEANS I’LL BE POOR BECAUSE I WON’T GET MY TYLER-DOUGH!!

  75. @pua

    a few more things

    #1 was joking around with boss about me being gay and she said “you’re noooooot gay hank.” like I had claimed to be an african american woman. So to the concern from way back when with guys like scray and sentient thinking my gay jokes came across wrong, thats not the case. She was insistent that I absolutely 100% was not and could not be gay. It was actually surprising that she just came right out and said it “you aren’t gay hank.” like I was being ridiculous.

    #2 had fat coworker come up out of the blue and chat with me. Was really obvious when she said “so how did you get this job? Do you get a license or anything.” Nothing the vibe here where you can tell she’s into you.

    #3 walked in gas station, girl ahead of me. she opens door and looks back at me. ioi right there. surprised to get one so soon. knew the worker there so was kinda akward, plus it was night so kinda hard to just open her outside lol.

    I mean I can do it, no excuses. I’ll be ready next time and just go for it fuck it.

    girl was a white 7 so was just interesting getting that ioi from her that soon. would have been easy to game her too, just a little difficult environment.

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