Transitioning

As most of my readers know I’m presently editing the final draft of my third book. A very large part, almost a third, of this new book will be dedicated to Red Pill Parenting. I’ve written several series-posts about parenting from a Red Pill perspective and I felt it was an important enough topic to deserve a category itself in my sidebar links. I’ve expanded significantly upon these essays in the book as well as adding more material and some general advice for Red Pill aware men in their parenting efforts.

One thing I’m asked of from men who are Red Pill aware fathers is what to look out for and what to apply themselves to in raising a son or daughter using a Red Pill Lens. While prospectively it will give women some parenting insights, I’ve written this section with the intent of informing men about what they can expect from a feminine-primary social bent on conditioning a man’s children to assimilate to a Blue Pill mindset.

Without giving too much away, I’ve tried to express the dangers of a system of feminine-primary acculturation that contributes to what we term ‘Blue Pill Conditioning’ in the manosphere. What defines a ‘Blue Pill‘ mindset means different things to different men, but what conditions him to literally think, and invest his ego into that feminine-primary identification is initiated at a very early age. One thing I think gets lost on guys becoming Red Pill aware is just how much of his very natural-feeling sense of self is the result of a conditioning that’s taken the better part of his lifetime to develop in him.

The main reason I began developing a Red Pill parenting dialog is because it’s vitally necessary for Red Pill fathers – really any father with a sense of conventional masculinity – to come to terms with how his sons’ and daughters’ upbringing will be defined by what I call ‘The Village’ in the book. I coined this from the popular meme that “it takes a village to raise a child”, and the Village we have today is one that is dead set on instilling and normalizing a state of deliberate gender confusion – and hopefully perpetuate that state into a person’s adulthood.

The Village

This Village is a catch-all term and I mean to have it represent all of the influences a child receives in its upbringing that contributes to its Blue Pill sense of self. This includes the influences of media, popular entertainment, academia, their pre and grammar school education, popular culture that actively seeks to instill its own ideological base, etc. These are fairly recognizable sources of the Village’s systemic influence, but it’s also important to understand that this influence will be reinforced by your child’s peers, their Village family and relatives.

‘The Village’ will raise your kids if you don’t. You will be resisted, you will be ridiculed, you will be accused of every thought-crime to the point of being dragged away to jail for imparting Red Pill awareness to them (in the future I expect it to be equated with child abuse). The Village will teach your boys from the most impressionable ages (5 years old) to loath their maleness, to feel shame for being less perfect than girls and to want to remake their gender-identity more like girls – to the point that transitioning their gender to girls’ will be the norm.

The Village will raise your daughters to perpetuate the same cycle that devalues conventional masculinity, the same cycle that considers a father’s presence as superfluous and their sacrifices as granted expectations. It will raise your daughters to over-inflate their sense of worth with unmerited confidence at the expense of boys as their foils. It will teach them to openly embrace Hypergamy as their highest personal authority (publicly and privately) and to disrespect anything resembling masculinity to be less than some silly anachronism or reverse it into being all about men’s insecurities.

The good news is that for all of these efforts in social engineering, the Feminine Imperative is still confounded by basic biology and the psychological firmware evolved into us over millennia. That basic root reality is your greatest advantage as a father. If there’s one underlying truth upon which to base your parenting it’s this; children are still motivated by evolved influences that are relatively predictable. Begin from the root truth that we evolved our psychology and our behaviors from intergender complementarity that made us the preeminent species on this planet. It takes a global Village to distort this by teaching failed notions of egalitarian equalism.

Useful Tools – Blue Pill Fathers

Although the Village would assert its influence to be the primary one in your child’s life, and although it would have women believe that father’s are both necessary when convenient and superfluous, father’s are not without their uses. The Feminine Imperative (by way of the social system of the Village) needs fathers to help reinforce its feminine-primary influence in their children’s lives. Thus, Blue Pill fathers must also carry the feminine-primary water in their parenting. They must be taught to believe that parenting a daughter is preferable to parenting a son:

I realize that everything I could do with a boy I can do with my daughters (i.e. play basketball, teach them how to throw a punch, and play in the dirt). Yes, I know that’s a big fat “duh” for many of you, but I’m a recovering knucklehead with minimal relapses, so please humor me. And yes, I’m going to teach them much more than those three things – but I promise you that I will teach them those three things.

The Feminine Imperative needs men to constantly reaffirm the fallacies of egalitarian equalism, but it is The Village that needs a father to instill them into the minds of their own flesh and blood as well as those of other fathers. The meme is always a pretense of gender-neutral equity, but the latent purpose is one of devaluing the very existence of boys, and, by extension, conventional masculinity.

And this is the crux of the effort to enlist fathers in the system of the Village; masculinity and maleness are always portrayed as problems to be solved – the solution always being more feminine identification. The main goal of the Village is to destroy and redefine conventional masculinity in a way that only benefits the feminine.

I realize that being “girly” is just a myth. What does that mean, anyway? Would my kid be less girly if she dressed up as Spider-Man for Halloween instead of a princess? (and that’s exactly what she did, by the way). Would she be less girly if she wanted to tackle little boys on the football field instead of taking ballet classes? Not to me.

This is precisely the degree of gender obfuscation the Village requires fathers to endorse. The squid ink here is the idea that masculine and feminine, boys & girls, male and female are all one, undifferentiated whole; in fact the old ideas of gender differences that brought the human race to where it is today, we are taught, were nothing more than “myths”. The underlying note is that girls are the functional equals of boys, but girls have the social and sexual advantage of being female.

The social narrative of the Village, the one it needs fathers to internalize and parrot back, is one of Fempowerment, but simultaneously one of male disempowerment. The idea then evolves into a sense of conventional masculinity being a defect of men; men are just unperfected women who are in need of women (or their daughters’) innate correction.

The idea here is that men with daughters make for better men” as defined by the Feminine Imperative and approved by The Village. What Red Pill fathers need to acknowledge in this that their sons will be taught that their maleness is inherently flawed. All of the attributes and evolved instincts that make him a boy will be connected with his masculinity being “toxic”.

“Toxic Masculinity” or “Hyper-masculinity” are common tropes in the Village. We’ve gotten to a point that any form of traditional, conventionally masculine behaviors are now equated with a character flaw in men. So thoroughly has the Village distorted the old books definition of manhood that anything resembling a characteristically masculine behavior is, by default, an act of ‘hyper’ or “over-the-top” masculinity. This, of course, makes characterizing those acts as toxic, or ridiculous.

The Preferred Gender

In my essay, Environmental Stresses I added this quote from the book The Red Queen:

Contrary to popular belief a preference for boys over girls is not universal. Indeed, there is a close relationship between social status and the degree to which sons are preferred. Laura Betzig of the University of Michigan noticed that, in feudal times, lords favored their sons, but peasants were more likely to leave possessions to daughters. While their feudal superiors killed or neglected daughters or banished them to convents, peasants left them more possessions: Sexism was more a feature of elites than of the unchronicled masses.

[…]Lower down the social scale, daughters are preferred even today: A poor son is often forced to remain single, but a poor daughter can marry a rich man. In modern Kenya, Mukogodo people are more likely to take daughters than sons to clinics for treatment when they are sick, and therefore more daughters than sons survive to the age of four. This is rational of the Mukogodo parents because their daughters can marry into the harems of rich Samburu and Maasai men and thrive, whereas their sons inherit Mukogodo poverty. In the calculus of Trivers-Willard, daughters are better grandchildren-production devices than sons.

These quotes are a part of a much more in depth look at how both environmental and social stresses contribute to a ‘preferred gender’ dynamic in both animal populations and human social structure. As I was reviewing this book recently it hit me how western cultures have blatantly been endorsing ‘female’ as the preferred gender for the past 60-70 years now.

I realize this assertion grates on popular culture’s sensibilities when it comes to gender, but as I stated in that essay, at no other time in human history has it been more advantageous to be female than today. Whether you want to argue that assertion from socioeconomic, education, gender identity, social ‘progress’ or any other metric, women in this era enjoy a condition that places their sex as the primary one in terms of social advantage. Women today live in a social condition that advantages, ensures their relative successes and directly or indirectly provisions for their personal security while simultaneously seeking to handicap being male and ridiculing the conventionally masculine.

In many a prior essay I’ve made the assertion that this effort in feminizing boys – in “perfecting” them with feminization – has been a long effort in social engineering. And while I still believe this is true, I think that in recent years the adaptive response to this preferred gender dynamic for Blue Pill fathers, men and boys is now an effort in socially engineering boys to imagine their gender identity as being transitionable to that of girls. Needles to say this push for gender self-reassignment has been embraced by the Village.

Olivia loves Disney’s Frozen princesses, all things sparkly, bright tights and ballet. During her family’s Cuban vacation last summer, she danced in the children’s “mini-disco” before the evening shows, twirling and leaping across the stage. One night another guest turned to her parents, exclaiming, “Your daughter is the girliest girl I’ve ever seen!”

Olivia was born a boy.

She “socially transitioned” from male to female, in nursery school last year. She was four years old.

Today, she attends kindergarten at a Montreal primary school. Only her teachers and the school board know she is transgender, for now.

Olivia (not her real name to protect her identity) is part of a growing phenomenon that is being celebrated but which is also raising strong emotions: an increasing number of children as young as preschoolers appearing at gender identity-clinics across the country, convinced they are of the opposite sex.

The new push to normalize transgender acceptance relies solely on the presumption that gender identity is a social construct rather than influenced by biological, and evolved psychological dynamics inherent in both sexes. The idea again comes back to the egalitarian presumption of a blank-slate equalism and a rejection of gender as a binary determination. Yet in over 90% of transgender identity shifts we see it is boys who opt to “become” female in their self-reassignment. Left to their own non-abstract decision making – and reinforced by Blue Pill parents and the Village – boys will, in the binary, shift to a female / feminine gender identity in overwhelmingly greater numbers than girls shifting to a male / masculine identity.

I would argue that this greater transgender preference for boys is a direct result of the Preferred Gender dynamic and reinforced by the Village conditioning boys for it while normalizing the idea of it in a larger cultural respect. This is the next step in cultural feminization of boys and men that began in the touchy-feely days of men needing to “get in touch with their feminine sides.”

It is no longer enough for boys just to be educated in a feminine-correct manner. It is no longer enough to teach them to despise the gender they were born into, “hoping their penises will fall off”, and it’s no longer enough to condition them to defer to girl’s perfectness. Boys must literally be transitioned to be girls from as young an age as 4 years old.

This is the degree to which the Village and the Feminine Imperative will go to condition future men into a Blue Pill mindset. I outline this in the upcoming book, but this is vitally important for Red Pill fathers to understand because these will be the ‘boys’ they may eventually need to mentor and unplug from their very early psychological damage. Many voices in the manosphere call this damage child abuse and it’s easy to understand why; this damage works on a boy’s most intimate part of his sense of self.

Red Pill fathers need to recognize this perversion of conventional masculinity for what it is and protect their sons (as well as daughters) from it while still anticipating the fall that will result from the “men” this re-engineering of gender will create.

 

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theasdgamer
4 years ago

This is how AMOG vs Gamma battles typically play out…
Illustrative

So why are you organizing a dick-measuring contest?

anon
anon
4 years ago

“Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?”

It would depend on how one measures benefit and how one measures cost.
Is there a cost to avoiding turning the forum into an all-PUA-all-the-time channel?
Is there a benefit?
One thing for sure.
The Yacolytes run strong here.

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@anon “Who benefits more if YaReally posts free RSD vids here? Readers? Rollo? RSD? YaReally?” It would depend on how one measures benefit and how one measures cost. Is there a cost to avoiding turning the forum into an all-PUA-all-the-time channel? Is there a benefit? One thing for sure. The Yacolytes run strong here. FRs and pua are by far the minority of comments here. sure, the individual comments can be lengthy, but I’d say no more than 15% of the comments here pertain to pua. When I have time, I’ll tally up some comments and give you a real… Read more »

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
4 years ago

I know it’s a lot of work, but maybe setting aside a forum for the “practical” discussion could be an idea that would create a venue for that discussion, which apparently lots of people here like, especially after the “Exodus out of Roissy” crowd arrived, while helping make the comment threads stay a bit more on topic and not have every single one turn into the exact same discussion about PUA infield tactics which are at best tangentially related to the post Rollo has made. Just an idea — again, I know it’s a PITA, but it may make sense… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

I’d LOVE if I could go “actually Krauser is just executing Mystery Method properly” and “looks don’t matter” and people went “that’s a great point YaReally, I agree!”

I agree.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Rollo – thank you for changing your position and allowing the RSD videos/links to be posted. I appreciate it. I see where you’re coming from. Irrespective of whether YaReally is a paid shill or not (and I obviously don’t think he is) you’re concerned that the constant RSD references and videos are “linking” your brand to a commercial company and you don’t want that. And I think you’re right – TRM is a powerful brand in the manosphere and on an individual level for many men – you’re better off not turning commercial. RSD is obviously a commercial company and… Read more »

rugby11
4 years ago
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DrSteveBrule
DrSteveBrule
4 years ago

The African tribe example is fascinating.

Makes me think about Thailand, where around 5-10% of milennial males are transgender/’genderqueer’ etc. – higher than any other nation.

Due to its unique interpretation of Buddhism, Thailand has almost no concept of sexual morality, monogamy is weak, hypergamy is rampant (71% of married people admit to cheating in past year) and this has created a massive incel underclass.

As such, the options for peasant male there are so dire that pumping one’s self full of estrogren in order to grow a set of tits is a viable choice for social/financial progression. Yikes!

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
4 years ago

As such, the options for peasant male there are so dire that pumping one’s self full of estrogren in order to grow a set of tits is a viable choice for social/financial progression. Yikes!

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
4 years ago

As such, the options for peasant male there are so dire that pumping one’s self full of estrogren in order to grow a set of tits is a viable choice for social/financial progression. Yikes!

It’s also that a lot of gay guys there opt for trans to access the sex market for “straight” sex tourists who happen to like having sex with men in dresses and still say they are straight.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Rollo’s brand is larger than PUA. It is a full scale primer, intermediate and graduate course on Red Pill issues. It is comprehensive. PUA is complementary to this body of work. But it is not equal or more important than The Rational Male as a whole. It is not the sine qua non of Rollo’s Brand. It is one thing to be complementary in adding content and adding value. It is an entirely different to go off on rants denouncing *larger issues* and commenters. We are guests here with the host promoting awareness (which is red pill descriptive not prescriptive).… Read more »

MrT
MrT
4 years ago

+10 for the memes

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@MrT

-10 for your lack of substance in comments. And for not wanting to be on team TRM.

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DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
4 years ago

@SJF “Rollo’s brand is larger than PUA. It is a full scale primer, intermediate and graduate course on Red Pill issues. It is comprehensive. PUA is complementary to this body of work. But it is not equal or more important than The Rational Male as a whole. It is not the sine qua non of Rollo’s Brand. ” Completely agree on this – I thought it was obvious. I assumed any guy with half a brain comparing TRM/RSD would see this and totally not get confused about which is which or which is the adult/child. I follow some of the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Good comment SJF. I suspect Rollo’s issue is more having the borrowed authority of the TRM brand legitimizing the RSD activity… Especially as they continue to roosh forward in search of… More revenue… Not an RSD hater but they do have a bunch of things going on in the background they do not cop to in their promo items… And the naive and hopeless are easily misled… I’ll post some examples tomorrow. They are not alone in this… It is part of what comes from a pay me model… As purple as MMSL became at least Athol went about monetizing… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Edit. Re MMSL yes he did co opt material… Lolz

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@Disgruntled earthling I, for one, would hate to see this site be primarily OMG-centered The PUA crowd give a spice to my new RP view of life – it’s like icing on the cake. Good point. Which I totally agree with–the PUA crowd being very complementary to Rollo’s work. I’m a big fan of PUA’s these last 15 years. (…and have an odd way of showing it, but iron sharpens iron.) And that sentiment is analogous to what Sebastian Junger wrote about in regards to political In-group Malice and Out-group Altruism. A quite insightful excerpt from his recent book Tribes:… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Sentient – you mean the stuff like how they instantly kino and go boyfriend posture with very nearly every girl you see in in-fields but they don’t talk about its importance at all? Or how they want their clients to have a good night, so if the client on a bootcamp can’t pull by himself, then at the end of the night the instructor finds a girl who is ready to be pulled and pumps her BT hard and transfers it off to the client and literally tells the client “take her hand and lead her out”..stuff like that? (Tyler… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

PS – One more thought. Although the RSD marketing isn’t quite as “get rich quick/get laid quick” in its tone as other pickup companies I’ve seen, the marketing DOES tend more towards the “quick fix” angle than I’d like. Their actual content (videos, courses, live coaching, talks) all emphasizes that this is a path and a journey and will take time etc, but the MARKETING doesn’t.

I’m not thrilled with that but can give them a pass for that – it must be difficult to get attention and clicks without at least partially taking that angle.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
4 years ago

you don’t keep underscoring the places where you’re different—you underscore your shared humanity strategies. It’s not about winning the debate (Patriarchs vs. Peurarchs) with ingroup malice. It is about advancing both our causes while still advocating for our own personal strategies. I still claim my push-back in these debates is defensive. Umm, Sorry? To me, it’s more like when the discussion becomes 100% about “tactically how to game <25yo HB8+", and it's repeated that this is the only relevant thing, I tune out because, even though there may be some things here and there that are relevant to my context,… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Novaseeker Man, I’ve been saying precisely what you’ve said for many months and it’s fallen to the ground with a loud thud. This is a RP blog and shouldn’t be ” overtaken ” by PUA content dominating the tone of the comments. I don’t have problems with the PUA community as a whole, but the constant dragging in of multiple” Owen-tyler-Rsd ” stuff is a bit boring and tedious, and borderline disrespectful as this is Rollo’s blog. Red Pill is not about 25 year old hb8-9 in 2016 Tinder Culture for monoLtr whatever-the-fuck, that keeps getting relentlessly repeated in… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Blaximus @Novaseeker I really like both your contributions and posts here guys, so this isn’t said with any malice at all. But really, seriously you mean that? As Hank has pointed out, each post has several hundred comments. PUA content (field reports, tactics) is 10-15% max of the post volume (often less – it’s driven a lot by how many people post field reports and the discussions that arise out of it). Nobody is forcing you to read it and I don’t see how you get the perception that it is “taking over” the comments. When Emily was still here,… Read more »

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
4 years ago

The point is that the discussion tends to devolve — endlessly and repeatedly — into confrontations between the so-called OMGs and so-called PUAs about this that and the other thing, regardless of what the OP is about. And often it doesn’t take very long for that to happen in the thread. Yes, I use the scroll wheel, but that’s a band aid on the issue, which is that it becomes essentially the same conversation over and over and over and over again. It’s tiresome, tedious, unedifying and most importantly completely unrelated to the OP which Rollo has constructed with lots… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Culum Good morning you reasonable male. Imo, the volatility evident in the comments is directly related to the PUA content attempting to delegitamize other viewpoints in favor of a strictly PUA lifestyle. The constant blatant and veiled insults regarding men’s wives and daughters, wtf does that have to do with helping men? It goes without saying that there is much more to a man than picking up young women. Guys may need help, direction and guidance in that from time to time. I’m not, repeat-NOT anti PUA at all, but this is a site with BROADER ideas and concepts.… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Novaseeker @Blaximus YaReally’s mission is <30 yo men, while Rollo's mission is men in general. The OMG's mission is gaming their wives and maybe getting a little on the side. Rollo keeps getting pulled between the two missions since he covers both. The OMGs try to tell YaReally that the same old stuff still works…sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't with the <25 yo girls. YaReally and others diss Shakespeare's Taming-of-the-Shrew solution as not feasible. I think that it's still feasible, but the applications need to be updated…maybe a modern version of TTotS needs to be written that will… Read more »

anon
anon
4 years ago

“YaReally’s mission is <30 yo men…"

Not according to YaReally.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ asd

I’m more aligned with helping men in general in the spirit of TRM. That ” help ” comes in diverse manners.

I’d just hate to see the comments go the Roosh/CH route and become monolithic. It’d be nice to see the first few pages of comments actually reflecting the OP.

mersonia
4 years ago

@Blaximus “Red Pill is not about 25 year old hb8-9 in 2016 Tinder Culture for monoLtr whatever-the-fuck, that keeps getting relentlessly repeated in EVERY comment section.” Red Pill at it’s root is the recognition of the true nature of female behavior…. The Whole Masculine Self Improvement Was Just A Secondary Effect. “The constant blatant and veiled insults regarding men’s wives and daughters, wtf does that have to do with helping men?” Yur wifes is old and the daughtahs of menz are the slutz “That’s where it becomes counter RP, imo.” Red Pill at it’s root is the recognition of the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

Those are good points, but what I mean is “who are these guys, where do they come from and how does that play into their pitch, or not”… Just as a quick example they are pitching the Mansion these days and vids featuring it … But if Tyler even actually does live there he is with MarijuanaDon… Hmmm let’s imagine who is footing the bill… This kind of marketing veneer as they venture into financial independence products etc. Not kosher…

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

And now waddles in the Duckling… In a poozy haze missing that The Red Pill at its root recognizes Masculine behavior as much as the female… The thirst yet not slaked… The poozy still on the pedastal where he left it… And actual self improvement yet further pushed off towards oblivion… But hey where da bitches at!

Quack quack… Mersonia

FIWL
FIWL
4 years ago

Rollo’s vision is larger than PUA. At present, not the brand TRM itself. PUA has more awareness than Red Pill even if the guys make fun of PUA not being to help them because they tried it sometime and didn’t get any tangible results suddenly. Red Pill is known to outside world because of the TRP subreddit from all the media reports about Red Pill I have read. Red Pill has a even worser misogynistic image. I agree with Rollo’s idea of an outside business entity misleading his totally non-profit initiative of making men more aware of the Matrix. BUT…… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Rollo So many things are wrong with that “red pill” doctor article. Being a ‘lone wolf’ or a stranger was extremely dangerous and such individuals were avoided or attacked. It ain’t 10000 BC anymore, Chumley. Cold approach isn’t a fantasy…it works a LOT, based on field evidence. Girls aren’t guarded any more in many cases and there are ways to easily assimilate into a group. I’ll simply refer to YaReally’s linked RSD vid in an earlier comment as ample evidence that men can assimilate into groups. There are books written about how to do that, aren’t there? Tribal connections in… Read more »

FIWL
FIWL
4 years ago

@Blaximus “Red Pill is not about 25 year old hb8-9 in 2016 Tinder Culture for monoLtr whatever-the-fuck, that keeps getting relentlessly repeated in EVERY comment section.” I think it was in Heartiste’s blog I read Sexual Market rules all other market in the world(social, economic etc) I hate to say this, Red Pill is about recognizing the truth like sexual market is more important than economic market and when the people(women, white knights given the position and authority like legal/media channels) try to place one market and prioritize it over the other market(say by letting women focus on career in… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“Red Pill at it’s root is the recognition of the true nature of female behavior…. The Whole Masculine Self Improvement Was Just A Secondary Effect.”

No: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(illusion)

Interesting to see, however, that you consider “Masculine Self Improvement” as a side effect of Red Pill, rather than the true nature of male behaviour as being an innate part of it.

FIWL
FIWL
4 years ago

@Rollo regarding the lone wolf article on red pill doctor “That’s because approaching is a response to IOIs. It is not a stimulus. And this art is being lost. If she isn’t looking at You like she wants to get banged, Brother, it just ain’t there and You are wasting Your time.” – MisterDorimant in She’s bored and I’m Boring I’m just a newbie still learning the ropes when it comes to gaming but I call out these assertion above totally false because of what i did. Totally Keyboard Jockey Theory. My first # close and the girl I went… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Just so we make it clear, YaReally’s comments help lots of us OMGs, even if we aren’t YaReally’s primary mission. As to IOIs, I got two IOIs from early 20s hotties Friday and asked them to dance, but that was a one-off for me…those IOIs probably derived from a BBB (Big Bosomed Brunette) I danced with a lot. I’m not normally aware of IOIs and girls don’t often stare at me like those two did…lol, they were standing in the middle of the dance floor, just staring at me, I shit you not. Hot young guys were all around me,… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Sexual Market also has people having greater power and lesser power because of their position in the hierarchy.

We have to agree that girls who are HB8+ who is less than 25 year old occupy the topmost position in that hierarchy.

I disagree…alphas occupy the topmost position…women throw their panties at singers/scream at concerts. Women compete to have sex with alphas…alphas have more sex than the hottest women do

The sexual hierarchy goes like this:

1. alphas

2. hot women

3. betas

4. ugly women

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

” THERE CAN BE NO OTHER WAY.”

Oh, well shit then. I was gonna respond until I saw this.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
4 years ago

Oh, well shit then. I was gonna respond until I saw this.

I know — I mean obviously case closed. Only one relevant context — one ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.

Very close to being done, honestly.

rugby11
4 years ago
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Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Novaseeker

Okay, no kidding here. I really do hope that you do not leave. I’ve always valued your contributions here as a voice of sanity and reason.

Seriously.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Rollo After reading the redpilldoc’s OP, I browsed the site and ran acroos this little jewel. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15iuq9OTTsE&w=560&h=315%5D It’s not really Off Topic and it kinda refers a little to the Unbearable piece you recently posted. It’s a little long and informal, but you should give it a look. I’ve stated the same things this guy is talking about, here in the comments a while back. My friends and family are all quite familiar with this line of reasoning, but the less ” enlightened ” are still stuck in the Matrix. It is quite apparent that the tactics developed… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Novaseeker The point is that the discussion tends to devolve — endlessly and repeatedly — into confrontations between the so-called OMGs and so-called PUAs about this that and the other thing, regardless of what the OP is about. And often it doesn’t take very long for that to happen in the thread. As opposed to what? To the good old days when every thread turned into a confronation with simple minded boomer feminists like LearningTree, or InsanityBytes? Or as opposed to the good old days when every thread turned into a never ending soap opera drama featuring Mark Minter? I… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

FIWL Because Rollo has explicitly stated that he has no intention to write just because he has to if he turns up to full time professional writer/blogger. (Contrast that with academia that has became full of retards because they are being paid salary and write papers just because they have to even if they don’t have any value) Academia is full of tenured retards because they have to write papers in order to make tenure. Once they make tenure they get grants and contracts that require them to write papers. Along the way they learn never to rock the boat.… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
4 years ago

“@fleezer “big muscle dude sees hotties, joins. we look at each other as they blab on and on about this fucking business shit. no fun at all. no fucking chance to even open without interrupting as zero eye contact or iois” hmmm, I don’t get it…this other guy was jacked and you are alpha mcalphadawg with your daily $500 garden sprout breakfast or whatever you tried to insult me with lol, why didn’t they instantly stop talking to eachother and feel his biceps and try to fuck you guys?? @fleezer @hank holiday “A PUA totally couldn’t do something like befriend… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@all so hank moody is definitely my spirit animal. i’ve thought of saying things very similar to what he did as i was watching the show. for example, there was on part where his agent ordered a cranberry vodka and i said aloud “fag” at exactly the same moment that hank moody did. finished first season. definitely dropped off towards the end — first 8 episodes or so were good, but the last ones were kinda ehhh. the show is best when its focused on hank picking up chicks. @pua @yareally @culum @forge not much from these past few days.… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

I’m not YaReally but that Cold Approach article has so many holes in it, and caveats that give the author wiggle room to weasel out, that I stopped reading after a while. Just to picke one example: Mysterious Stranger is a stock figure in women’s fantasies, see 50 Shades of Grey and a zillion other femme-porn novels for examples. Or read Nancy Friday’s books starting with My Secret Garden. Maybe that site should be renamed purplepilldoctor.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Sentient – yes, I think I see what you mean. I haven’t actually seen some of the latest RSD videos so I don’t know who MarijuanaDon is (I saw one last month with Tyler and Julien sitting outside a mansion in LA riffing on random stuff including the election and Trump). But you are, I think, talking about the people who appear in their videos and the books/co-branding type stuff RSD push (especially as they get more into general self-help and physical fitness coaching and financial self-help etc) and the opacity of those arrangements and incentives. Like I don’t usually… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

As for the article, AR and Hank have commented on it and I (broadly) agree. The thing is it’s quite painful to unpick because he’s got some stuff I agree with in there, mixed in with a lot of flawed analysis and thinking and misunderstandings – it’ll really need a YaReally style line by line breakdown to do it justice and I can’t be bothered today. That said, I will say one thing: Cold Approach is NOT the easiest/least effort way to get laid. If you discount Cocaine Game and Prostitute Game and other such shortcuts, the easiest way is… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum the easiest way is social circle stuff If you read the below, would it surprise you if I said this guy is a lady killer or not? As a defiant young kid, I first started going to nightclubs when I was 12 years old… At the time, I convinced a nightclub owner to give me a job,… As a result, the owner of the club would get me into the club and sneak back stage to hang out with the rock bands, like Bush, Korn, and Deftones… It was the perfect job for me because the bar was across… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago
Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Novaseeker & @Blaximus Thanks for the explanation guys. I know Novaseeker specifically suggested a separate forum for the FRs but as I see it, your main objection (for both of you) is not some FRs from me or Hank that YaReally/Sentient/HABD/Wala and the other PUA regulars comment on. It’s more the endless thrashing between two YSG/OMG camps (oversimplification of the camps I know) and the bad feeling and snark that it has engendered (on BOTH sides). And I say this as someone who totally agreed with YaReally in the looks debate and then ended up agreeing with the OMGs on… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Sentient – Hahaha. I’m taking a wild stab here (I swear I haven’t googled the text), but that sounds a LOT like the bio of RSD Papa as he described it in some video. Or if it’s not him, it’s someone with a similar background (I don’t remember him saying anything about nightclubs and rock bands). If your point is that a bootcamp doesn’t teach the skills/mindset our young networker in that excerpt has, I am 100% in agreement with you. But there are a couple of nuances to mention: 1. Even with a guy like RSD Papa (or whoever… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “I’d actually be interested to know what YaReally’s response to this article would be:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNaJIdYyNqw “Sex with strangers is foreign to mankind.” Irrelevant article-filler. “Thus, that whole James Bond mysterious Alpha-Sigma fantasy, is just that, a fantasy. A girl is not gonna be aroused by the ‘mysterious’, enlightened loner ‘doing his own thing’”” Agreed. This is passive game. If he just sits back and “does his own thing”, he’s not going to get much attention if there are other men in the room demonstrating higher value. “that hits on the ladies by himself.” Retarded. I’d post a million infields… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Or TL:DR version: A bootcamp will not teach you to do what RSD Papa did in networking your way up. But it will teach you some foundational skills and mindset that you will need to get up to that level (and fill in some basic skill gaps that quite a few guys who got to that level have), although getting there requires a lot more than the bootcamp will teach.

YaReally
4 years ago

Fucked up the cut & paste, that should read:

“Like I say, good-looks will get you some free gimme iois. But it generally won’t be from the 25 & under 8+/10 who’s surrounded by guys who look just as good as you in her social circles. It’ll usually be from the aggressive 5-7s.”

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Yes that is Papa… the question is… how much has the bought and paid for social circle helped in all the “cold approach” videos we see…. the access at the same hot clubs in West Hollywood, South Beach, Vegas etc… over and over for 15+ years, the celebrity, the status etc.? Why does Tyler have videos in “his” mansion that MarijuanaDon seems to own? If not to “send a message’ of some sort… and that message is to whom? For what? [ more on the “Dan Bilzerian” of pot http://nextshark.com/mike-straumietis-marijuana-don-interview/ ] The issue is not this ” it’s not really… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

Which is the cart and which is the horse…?

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@pua I’ll just add that probably the BEST way to do cold approach is to do it on people standing in line to go in a club. Its a great way to get warmed up early in the night. Also, these people are bored and want to be talked to. You can cycle around chatting with people up to the door, then say “aw shit, gotta go help out a friend. fucking dave’s always getting shit faced, the motherfucker lol.” then hop back to the end of the line and work it again. LATER you can enter the club…but now… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Yareally The bigger RSD gets and the more they expand and the more haters they rack up, the easier it will be for guys like Sentient to find pics of Luke in a blazer (ignoring all the pics of Luke in t-shirts) or a soundbite snippet of Julien saying something that sounds contradictory to something Tyler said 5 years ago etc etc and guys will use that to try to discredit everything they teach because they don’t REALLY care about guys learning anything (or are promoting their own products/system, DPA-style). They just care about stroking their ego and building their… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Sentient – I finally get your point. I agree. It doesn’t mean the bootcamps aren’t beneficial and the Game training doesn’t help. But of course the results you see in RSD infields are supercharged by the context in which those guys live as you explained, and the guys *taking* the bootcamps don’t have access to that supercharging. Not ALL the RSD videos have that issue (eg Max running after random chick doing daygame in some European city or whatever) but a lot of them do, especially a lot of RSD Luke’s stuff. It’s a bit like a guy who has… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Culum “Or TL:DR version: A bootcamp will not teach you to do what RSD Papa did in networking your way up. But it will teach you some foundational skills and mindset that you will need to get up to that level (and fill in some basic skill gaps that quite a few guys who got to that level have), although getting there requires a lot more than the bootcamp will teach.” <3 Well said. They also make that clear on bootcamp and in their free videos that I can't link. They're putting out a high-quality product because that BRINGS guys… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

It’s a bit like a guy who has got huge with steroids advertising that you can get as big as him “natty” by following his training program.

All scams have the same truth – something from seemingly nothing… they are getting close to the edge now to me.

Farado
Farado
4 years ago

I am not sure if it has been posted before in the comments section (too many comments), or in one of your posts, Rollo, BUT: Have we taken into consideration deeper socio-economical reasons for the increasing penetration of the Female Imperative, as well as the Village directly supporting it? The way I see it, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Let me explain my point of view: 1) Modern Feminism, the Village and the Female Imperative effect on WOMEN: We all know that women comprise the best target market as consumers with respect to profits. Traditionally, beauty magazines/products, advertisements etc.… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

YaReally – as I seem to post quite often on these thrashes. I actually agree with you AND Sentient. That is not contradictory. Sentient is basically saying that having RSD Luke’s game alone will not get you Luke’s results with chicks, not unless you ALSO have Luke’s social circles and access he’s cultivated over years of networking the Vegas scene. And he’s saying that RSD don’t acknowledge this “boost” they get in a lot of their infield results (not all). I don’t see how this is controversial and I don’t think you will disagree with it either. Of course, in… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

I would welcome Rollo’s input on the clout that party promoters have in Vegas… or guys hooked into media like Playboy have in Hollywood…

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

LOL@Rollo. Yeah it confused me too. On topic, cogent, well argued! @Farado – welcome to the comment section. it’s a great place to hang out even if we spend a lot of time talking about all kinds of other stuff. I agree with your point. I don’t think there’s an official conspiracy of guys sitting around a table deciding how the FI will operate, but it’s certainly true that social changes that won’t affect, or will help big business have a hell of an easier time in making it to reality than changes which will affect the economic structures that… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@hank @Rollo “That said, I don’t think you quite get how superior that RSDs vids are compared to most other places.” This. Even LINKING that shitty article shows that Rollo doesn’t get this (probably because he doesn’t watch RSD videos and watch all the other companies and go out and field test stuff to compare the quality of what they’re teaching/demonstrating). “James Marshall has some great day game shit, Gambler on lasers, and Liam Mcrae has an awesome vid on getting physical on girls, but ESPECIALLY when it comes to night club game you can’t really top RSD. ” Ever… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

(YaReally – you can link now – see Rollo’s post above)

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

(and there’s a nice juicy FR from me about Sat night on the new thread, just sitting there waiting for entirely non-repetitive comments – #justsaying :))

YaReally
4 years ago

@Culum “Sentient is basically saying that having RSD Luke’s game alone will not get you Luke’s results with chicks, not unless you ALSO have Luke’s social circles and access he’s cultivated over years of networking the Vegas scene.” LUKE LITERALLY TALKS ABOUT THIS AND WARNS GUYS ABOUT IT IN HIS VIDEOS. Watch his videos, one of his recent ones he talks all about how he build his social connections up and that Tyler video I linked that started this whole fucking censorship debacle was showing a newbie being taught exactly how to DO the thing that Luke DID to cultivate… Read more »

Farado
Farado
4 years ago

@Culum Struan: Thanks, I have been a reader for quite some time. Comments have been quite insightful for me as an auxiliary brainstorming on Rollo’s posts. I am not suggesting that there is a conspiracy of fat stakeholders, far from it. In a data-driven market like nowadays, we have to agree that as men are FI conditioned to behave as consumers like women, this makes them better spenders. If I see that my advertisement can instil the necessary fear in men’s SMV perception and confidence and make them buy my products, I will continue to do invest in these marketing… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Sentient @Rollo “I would welcome Rollo’s input on the clout that party promoters have in Vegas… or guys hooked into media like Playboy have in Hollywood…” I’d welcome both your input on how that has relevance when Max runs a bootcamp in EE or Tyler runs a bootcamp in Dallas. Luke stays in Vegas but the RSD infield I post is from all over the fucking world. And Tyler even TALKS about getting recognized and the pros/cons and where/how it affects things etc but you guys wouldn’t know that ’cause you don’t watch their videos like the guys who sign… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo Any comment on our group opinion of that article you linked? Are all the guys who’ve said that article is bullshit wrong? Do you understand why we say it’s wrong? Do you get my point about the lack of quality of other content when EVERYONE here can tell you that article is garbage but they don’t say that about RSD content I post? Are they just all brainwashed and going to kool-aid suicide themselves? They all posted before I even posted my rebuttal to the article so it wasn’t MY reply influencing them all calling that article out as… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Farado Welcome sir. Capitalism is mostly gender blind. Profits chase and accentuate trends and capitalism chases profits. It’s a vicious cycle until it burns itself out and moves on to the ” next thing “. “Who benefits from that? Is it in the best interest of the financial system that this overall Feminization is taking place? The answer should be YES. The Village is (also) a Business. As a successful business is based on the competition game, Feminization would NOT be promoted IF that would hurt overall profits. “. Anything that increases demand for a product will be doggedly… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@YaReally – Point taken dude. I certainly wasn’t aware that Luke acknowledged the “boost” – I’ve seen a few things by him but I find he doesn’t resonate with me as much as Julien/Jeffy/Madison so I don’t watch much of Luke’s stuff. I probably could have added a disclaimer or something saying “he hasn’t acknowledged, at least in the videos I’ve seen but he may mention it in person or other videos” – bit like how the RSD marketing is a bit “quick fix” but they explain it’s a long path etc once they have you in the door. Obviously… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Oh, and I wear flip flops on occasion, especially when in the tropics or on Hot-As-Fuck days in the summer.

…. but I get your meaning.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Farado ” I am not suggesting that there is a conspiracy of fat stakeholders, far from it. In a data-driven market like nowadays, we have to agree that as men are FI conditioned to behave as consumers like women, this makes them better spenders. If I see that my advertisement can instil the necessary fear in men’s SMV perception and confidence and make them buy my products, I will continue to do invest in these marketing strategies; more advertisements like this, promotion through any kind of medium. Hell, if a lifestyle could be indirectly imposed after all this conditioning,… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Rollo – I didn’t see the original vid with Tyler’s student (only the description), but is it fair to say that your position is essentially that it is *possible* to do what he did, but it is likely to be a lot more difficult than the video made it look (with the student’s level of social skills/game), and therefore you are a bit suspicious that it was rigged?

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

One question Rollo – why would the club run guys off from bottle service tables? I see why (from the clubs perspective) it is good to have girls who will make the rich guy spend more to impress them. But if the rich guy is cool with having Tyler & Co at his table, why would the club run them off? Like what do they lose? I can see that the overall IMAGE of the club may go down if the publicity shots have to show Tyler instead of some hot girls, but if any individual rich guy is cool… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Rollo I am laughing my ass off for real at your comment. TRUTH!!! When I was much younger and bolder, I used to try an bum rush VIP sections in clubs where major rappers and R&B cats were. Sometimes it worked, but on the occasions that it didn’t, it got ugly very quickly. I’ve only been ejected from a club on 3 occasions, all after intruding into VIP/Bottle services, and the last time I was thrown from the front door with such force, I almost ended up on the opposite side of the street. ” …A balding redhead neckbeard… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Culum

Ime, it’s about exclusivity ( and moneyzzz) and the management has to enforce that exclusivity ( and a measure of security ). Imagine you dropped 800 bucks for service, and you had to fend off every mope that wanted to crash.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Farado The Village is (also) a Business. As a successful business is based on the competition game, Feminization would NOT be promoted IF that would hurt overall profits. Chicken / egg. The products you mention aren’t going to be sold in a vacuum, but on the other hand once the products are sold in a “this is what a man should look / smell /be like” then that takes on momentum of its own. In my not humble opinion, it’s the ideology that comes first. The ideological notion that men and women are interchangeable is something Feminism, Inc. has been… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Blaximus – thanks. That makes sense. So basically you have to be good enough that the table owner guy actively wants you to stay and prevents you from being removed. As opposed to sort of being indifferent in which case you’ll be kicked out for the reasons you describe.

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “Lets just say that it would take a lot more than a casual “he’s not from this country” for a guy like the one in the RSD video posted not to get run off a bottle service table.” http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg Have you TRIED it? Have you NEVER met an alpha dude infield who WANTS to teach you the ropes of “how to be a man”? That guy is literally BLAXIMUS. He realizes the kid is socially retarded and he gives him a pep talk about learning how to be a man and the man code and shit. SO MANY GUYS… Read more »

Farado
Farado
4 years ago

@ Blaximus Thank you sir. I agree with your point of view and I would like to expand a bit further, if you would offer your feedback. We live in the meta-post-younameit- era of Cognitive Marketing at the moment. The increase in sales of e.g. eye lashes for men (hypothetical scenario), that promotes a feminine-like look for men is interdependent on a number of industries for promotion that support each other through mutual profit sharing. I am suspecting that many young children, boys in particular, (including myself as a teenager in the late 90’s) are highly influenced by this promotion… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Thanks YaReally I will watch it (and try out the principles although I’m not quite feeling up to rushing VIP areas yet).

Farado
Farado
4 years ago

@Blaximus

I also wear flip flops in the summer, I am not excluding myself out of my counter-example 🙂 As I said, it was an extreme example 🙂 :p

YaReally
4 years ago

@Culum @Rollo “One question Rollo – why would the club run guys off from bottle service tables? I see why (from the clubs perspective) it is good to have girls who will make the rich guy spend more to impress them. But if the rich guy is cool with having Tyler & Co at his table, why would the club run them off? Like what do they lose?” When you’re ONE DUDE with 5-10 girls at your table, you WANT guys to entertain the girls for you. You can’t fuck ALL of them and you WANT the girls to have… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Blaximus Oh, and I wear flip flops on occasion, especially when in the tropics or on Hot-As-Fuck days in the summer. I’m reliably informed the Marines used to refer to those as “shower shoes” or something similar. I always have a pair on travel even in cold climates in order to put something between my feet and whatever may be on the floor, deck, or other surface. A friend of mine had to leave a hotel once in a hurry when the fire alarm went off, and managed to gouge one foot on something or other, so he left a… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Farado Well done. I agree fully. Let’s look outside the FI to get an idea of the concepts you advance, which I totally agree with. Air Jordan sneakers. Michael Jordan hasn’t played basketball for around 13 years, and he was a flop with the Washington Wizards during his 2nd…or 3rd comeback. He was able to sell Jordans not solely on his abilities on the court, but through a super strong advertising campaign. The high sales of Nike Jordans have barely slowed since the sneakers went on sale around 1984. Now, how does an inactive player still manage to sell… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “@YaReally, do you only ctrl+f for your own name when you check back for comments here?” Yes lol “I reposted your original comments 2 days ago.” Didn’t see it ’cause we were already on the next page after the deletion. Thanks, I guess? Hopefully the guys I tagged in it decide to read this thread despite the new article up and jump to the end to see that it’s back and then go back to it to watch it and read what I wrote. “surveillance staff that watch for guys doing exactly what happens in this video.” They watch… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “Yes, there are cool guys who want to be everyone’s friend and honestly they are very easy to spot in a club/event. They buy rounds, they don’t want to be an asshole, they’re outgoing, boisterous and as I said generous because that generosity they believe is DHV and social proof. They don’t get hostile because they think the girls in their circle will see it as negative aggression.” So this guy in the video that was friendly to the newbie could have been exactly this guy you’re describing. HUH. Thanks for proving my point. They picked a dude who… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo “You know, I’ve got a gig coming up next Thursday I may just take some infield shots to show you what goes on.” You know what would be better? Disguise yourself and try getting into the VIP area. Also note that in the video the VIP area isn’t roped off in some far away impossible to get to spot, it’s just a VIP area in the middle of the club that people can easily access. Not one of the cabanas behind a rope or some shit, where OBVIOUSLY you would have to be more creative to get anywhere near.… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
4 years ago

Blaximus
Air Jordans
Unbroken Momentum. Like a self selling prophecy.

In other cultural environments, this is “tradition”, also known as “We’ve Always Done It This Way”. Humans are pattern seeking, ritual loving critters.

My 16 old daughter has never seen Jordan play a single game, but has Jordans, as do all of her friends.

Huh? Who pays that much money for sneaks for 16 year olds who may grow out of them?

Anyway, this is one reason why pushing back when it’s cheap is important, even on the individual level, like Blaximus with Joe the Cop.

YaReally
4 years ago

@Rollo @Culum Straun @Sentient Hope you don’t mind this video Rollo since it’s directly relevant to making my point since you guys won’t go look this shit up yourselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn3dzu0IL6g&t=20s OH LOOK, it’s Luke explaining exactly how he built his social circle (TO GUYS IN NYC, NOT VEGAS), and how the type of neighborhood you live in will affect the type of girls and guys you can meet and build into a social circle, and how to give and spread value to befriend these people in these scenes and how Vegas is different from normal cities, and how Social Circle… Read more »

YaReally
4 years ago

@Sentient @Rollo @Culum Again hope you don’t mind but you guys not watching these before you make up shit about what they actually teach forces me to link this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1b-bMg7Avk O SHIT, A DOUBLE-COMBO, LUKE *AND* PAPA, doing exactly what Sentient says they DON’T do: describing EXACTLY how to build a social circle like they have, from scratch, in whatever city you’re in (NO YOU WONT GET PLAYBOY MODELS IN SOME PODUNK TOWN IN WISCONSIN). Papa talks about how he build his way up, collecting numbers, rolodex, tapping into local groups (event groups, business groups, nightlife staff, influencers, etc),… Read more »

FIWL
FIWL
4 years ago

@hank @pua You just described what I already did(when i sent the text) when it comes to boyfriend destroyer routine i took it from Yareally archives. The problem is the girl I ran it on, knew me for years when I was totally beta and hasn’t seen me after I having me changing my personality and body(I lost a 60 pounds when compared to previous time). So she doesn’t exactly has the image of me being a mysterious man but more like a herb boring dude. I’m sure one live encounter can change all that perception. 🙂 *** With the… Read more »

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