Losing My Religion

Losing

In the interests of full disclosure, I’ll admit I’ve had this post in my drafts folder for some time now. As always, standard caveats apply with regard to my policy on posts about religion, politics, and socioeconomics. I don’t delve into the particulars of these subjects, but I will dissect how they coincide with intersexual dynamics.

It’s no secret that I’ve been a regular follower of Dalrock’s blog for over five years now. Along with Dal I also consider Donalgraeme and a few other bloggers in the ‘Christo-Manosphere’ Red Pill colleagues if not friends. I’ve always held Dalrock as a sort of Red Pill brother since both our blogs came up around the same time. I’ve quoted and credited him in both my books.

I do so because there was a time I considered pursuing a path in my writing that would follow the same Red Pill critique of religion, (Christianity for Dal) at least in some occasional sense. After reading Dalrock’s very insightful early posts I decided against it. Dal has earned the respect of the manosphere for his Red Pill lens of contemporary Christianity for good reason – he’s a consummate statistician and researcher, and he’s what I’d call “embedded” well within modern (I presume mostly evangelical) church culture. He does it better than I could hope to do that part of the manosphere justice.

I never go into any detail about my own faith for a couple of reasons, the first being it’s only peripherally relevant in my writing. Secondly, it’s always been my position that the Red Pill needs to remain fundamentally areligious and apolitical. That said, I am familiar enough with ‘Churchian’ culture and the psycho-social side of mainstream religion to understand it through my own Red Pill lens.

When I analyze Red Pill principles within social contexts I always have a hard time with religion. It grates on me because I’m of the opinion that one’s religious leanings, one’s interaction with existence and life, one’s consideration of the spiritual, ought to be something personal and private if it’s in anyway genuine. As such, and for some, it can be a source of real vulnerability and exploitation which is really nothing new to anyone. It’s one thing to be even agnostic and trapped in a Blue Pill world, but it’s quite another to have been raised to adulthood in a religious context and coming to terms with having some very deep ego-investments shattered by a new Red Pill awareness.

If you ask anyone steeped in the Blue Pill conditioning of the Feminine Imperative about how this exploitation operates in an intersexual context you’ll likely get the standard answer that religion is largely a “social construct designed to maintain the Patriarchy.” And I have no doubt that in a Judeo-Christian sense this was likely the case for millennia. I won’t dig into how much of this had the latent purpose of controlling for Hypergamy in this post, but in the generations since the sexual revolution and the rise of feminine social primacy this maintaining the Patriarchy is a failing distraction on the part of the Feminine Imperative.

Creating Religion in the Image of the Feminine Imperative

For the past five generations, there has been a concerted re-engineering of religion (and not just limited to Christianity) to better suit the ends of the Feminine Imperative. Just as men are sold the idealism of the old set of books while living within the social context that confounds them, religion has been coopted by the feminine. The old books religion has either been replaced wholesale by a feminine-interpreted, feminine-directed religion that places women as its highest authority, or it’s been restructured and rewritten to serve the same feminine-primary objectives.

For going on six years now, Dalrock has masterfully documented and rightly criticized these shifts in Christianity. Although I’m focusing on western Christiainty here, this re-engineering of modern religion is not limited to just Christianity. A Red Pill perspective reveals a lot of uncomfortable truths, one of these is how well the Feminine Imperative has succeeded in supplanting any and all masculine influence in religion.

I expect there will be female critics who’ll cite that, in most of church culture, it’s still predominantly men who control churches and religious organizations, but in the era of feminine social primacy, it’s not who executes the control, but whose beliefs control the executors. Pair this with the commodification of religion and we can see the spheres of true feminine control and feminine-primary purpose.

https://twitter.com/voxday/status/737234578432233472

After almost six years of following the religious aspects of the Red Pill, I think it’s high time men acknowledge that modern Christian culture simply does not have men’s best interests as part of its doctrine anymore. Christianity, in particular, is by women, for women – if not directly executed by women, though even that is changing.

Church culture is now openly hostile towards any expression of conventional masculinity that doesn’t directly benefit women and actively conditions men to be serviceable, gender-loathing Betas. The feminist narrative of “toxic masculinity” has entirely replaced any semblance of what traditional masculinity or manhood once was to the church. Any hint of a masculinity not entirely beholden to a now feminine-primary purpose is not only feared, but shamed with feminine-interpreted aspersions of faith.

I recently read a study that our current generation is the least religious in history and I think as far as men are concerned much of that disdain for religion is attributable to a church culture that constantly and openly ridicules and debases any male-specific endeavors or anything characteristic of conventional masculinity. It’s no secret in today’s church franchisement that reaching out to, and retaining the interests of, men is at its most difficult.

Again, this is attributable to a generation of feminized men being raised into a church culture, and eventual church leadership, that has been taught to prioritize and identify with the feminine and reinforced with articles of faith now defined by the Feminine Imperative. The modern church has trouble reaching men because the church no longer has a grasp of what it means to be ‘men’.

To be clear, that’s not an indictment of the genuine faith itself, but rather a fairly measured observation of the way a feminine-primary church culture has shaped that faith. In the future, any man with a marginal capacity for critical thought will avoid the contemporary Christian church and religion for the obvious misandry it espouses; the only religious men you will find will be those raised into a life of religiously motivated Beta servitude – or those dragged to the feminine-directed church by wives who hold authoritative ‘headship’ in their relationships.

And even in what some consider to be pro-masculine or “macho” churches, we still find the Paper Alpha leaders preach from a mindset that defers wholesale to the feminine’s “Godly perfection” as they attempt to AMOG other male member to greater devotion to qualifying for, and identifying with, the feminine influence that pervades their church.

Religious men will be synonymous with a Beta mindset.

It’s gotten to a point where it’s better to look after your self-interests and repent of the sin later than commit to an institution that openly seeks to indenture you. I realize that might be anathema to the more determined religious man, but just understand that this is the pragmatic, deductive future that the contemporary, western-feminized church is presenting to men. The social contract of marriage from a religious perspective has shifted into the ultimate leap of faith for men. They literally risk everything in marriage – child custody, sexual access, any expectation of true, male authority or respect, long-term financial prospects, etc. – but this leap of faith comes with a metaphysical price tag.

Men declining to participate in faith-based marriage decline an aspect of a faith reset to serve women; women who are held as a higher order of sinless being than men by this new church. For the agnostic or areligious man, discarding a Blue Pill social conditioning for a Red Pill awareness is a difficult task, but for men raised to believe that their only doctrinally approved path to sex with a woman is abstinence until marriage, that man’s only hope is to accept his fate and stay the Beta a feminized church has conditioned him to be.

And once he gets to marriage and his approved expression of his sexuality, the “Christian” man finds that the feminized church, even the male elders, expect endless qualifications to women and his wife’s unceasing appeasement in exchange for that approved sex. It’s a tail-chasing that holds men to the old books social order expectations while absolving women of all accountability and expecting him to also make concessions for a new (feminized) social order that’s ensaturated the church.

SeventiesJason from Dalrock’s blog:

And then we have “Christian marriage” divorce rates which are only a few paltry percentage points lower than the secular world……..men like Chandler will blame “men” for not leading, not being ‘holy’ enough, not bold n’ biblical enough, not going to bed exhausted every night….and a pile of other excuses for why she “had no choice” but to end the marriage.

We have a whole cottage industry of ‘christian counseling’ and self-help books, usually written for and by women. We have conferences, TV channels, broadcast networks, podcasts, radio stations, outreach, plenty of churches in this country……..the Internet. A ton of resources. Books……every pastor great and small today is “working on” or has written a book.

How on earth did the early church survive under the penalty of death? Persecution. Seclusion, and outright shunning? How did it grow? How did it survive?

We are told over and over by pastors that “God has an amazing plan for your life!” and then to sell men in the world this ‘churchian’ ploy that you are somehow not as holy, balanced, ready, equipped, or mature to handle this amazing plan….ah, but your wife to be is! The unspoken consolation prize is “but…..hey, you get to have sex….and that’s the only thing men need or think about and want!”

That seems to be given begrudgingly today (in my men’s group…..goodness, so many of the married guys complain that their wives never want sex)

How did the early church turn the world upside down? All God did was send a few men, and they made it happen. We have so many tools today…..and we’re “helpless” and we tend to think a “building program” will help everything and if we let the men fix things on the property they will feel “useful”

For over five generations now, the modern church has become a Beta farm existing only to produce the same masculinity-confused men that the secular world has perfected today. In our idealism I think too many (even well-meaning Red Pill) men believe that the church is some insulation against the worst of the Feminine Imperative when it is in fact an institution that produces the same men we hope to free from the Matrix.

Dean Abbot had an excellent post about this dynamic in his critique of another post by Mark Braivo:

In spite of what you might hear in the media about how terrible and retrograde evangelicals are, the entire movement, even the “conservative” end is thoroughly feminized.

The central Christian teaching that ALL people are sinners gets glossed over. Instead, the notion that men are somehow worse by nature than women is everywhere, sometimes stated overtly, often in the subtext.

At the same time, women are elevated to a position of moral and spiritual superiority. Women’s sin is often excused in light of a man’s failings. I remember hearing a very well known evangelical leader tell a story about how his wife freaked out and started smashing all their dishes. What was his point? That she did this because he had been neglecting her. See, she is not an adult beholden to practice self-control, but rather an innocent, sweet victim driven to outlandish behavior by his shortcomings.

“Toxic masculinity”, any masculinity inconvenient to a feminine-correct purpose, is a sin both actively and retroactively in today’s church.

With every successive generation of Beta pastors that are produced by this farm you get more and more men whose only experience of that religion is one of servile deference to a faith that’s been fundamentally altered to the utility of women and feminine-primacy. Women love to complain that it’s largely men who do the preaching and decision making in church, but what they ignore is that these men are the developed implements of the Feminine Imperative.

I will wager that in the next 10 years Christianity will be unrecognizable from its prior tenets of well defined conventional masculinity and the faith itself will expressly be centered on deference to the feminine.

Culture Informs Faith

I’ve had several critics tell me that the problem with the modern church is really one of its culture and should be considered apart from the ‘genuine’ faith, however it is church culture that ultimately informs and restructures doctrine and articles of faith. When that culture is informed by the Feminine Imperative, open Christian feminists, and a feminine influence posing as doctrinally sound egalitarianism, this fundamentally recreates an old order religion in the image of a new order, female-primary, imperative.

This and endless variations of the feminization of religion across every denomination and sect is why contemporary religion is openly hostile to any semblance of conventional masculinity. Church is no place for a single man and is just a formality for the man married to a religious woman at this point in time. All considerations of faith aside, I cannot fathom an adult man with any self-respect finding anything attractive about the modern church. Either there is nothing for him there or he is despised and denigrated, openly in a faith altering way or discreetly in resentment, or in pandering ridicule of his juvenilized maleness.

I don’t type this without a sincere sense of what’s been lost, particularly for men genuinely seeking existential answers for himself. My observations here will undoubtedly be thought of as some attack on a genuine faith, but my issue here isn’t with religion per se, but rather the thoroughness with which the Feminine Imperative has either subverted wholesale or covertly influenced really all modern religion.

Yes, I realize that faith is something personal that should be set apart from churchy social influence, but the culture is a manifestation of the doctrine and collective belief system. That culture ultimately modifies and informs the faith itself, thus with every successive generation that social influence becomes an article of the faith for the next.

Better to laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, especially when the ‘saints’ are the priestesses of the Feminine Imperative.

The Red Pill lens in today’s church is a scary prospect.

Another commenter, The Question, had a good comment about this:

You’re absolutely right about the state of the Church in the West.

What makes it so dangerous for a Blue Pill man is that it is ground-zero for girls entering the epiphany phase. The single men who remain in the church are the ones will be pressured to fulfill their role in that strategy and will be treated with hostility if they don’t. I personally anticipate a renewed church “man up” campaign somewhere in the near future as the next wave of twenty-somethings near 30 and beyond.

I’d say the only reason to go is to meet cute single young women and that’s if the church actually has them and its theology isn’t wholly intolerable. College town churches like mine have quite a few young single ladies which is why I go.

I will admit, putting aside conscience and morality, the modern (‘Relevant’) church would be a veritable untapped gold mine for a PUA savvy of christian culture. Churchianity’s already got the perfect social architecture installed for pick up. Christian women aching for sexy Alpha dominance in a sea of preconditioned christian Beta “good guys”, high intrasexual competition anxiety for both sexes, instant reconciliation and sin forgiveness for women, hell, you can even talk a woman into an abortion without her having any accountability for killing her child at this point. What’s not for a PUA to like? Feminine-primary churchianity has been waiting for christian-savvy players for years now.

Men with a well defined Red Pill lens, having the sensitivity to understand the subcommunications of what’s going on around them in church, should be rightly horrified.

This is one reason Men like Dalrock are vilified by Christian women who understand he’s wise to what’s transpiring in the church – the Feminine Imperative has taken the Lord’s name in vain by presuming to promote its agenda and socially engineer generations of men to support it by claiming it’s God’s will.

Read the Fempowerment narratives of any ‘Christian women’s ministry speaker’, they will defend the sisterhood above any tenets of faith. They’ll tolerate blasphemy of the faith, but never the Feminine Imperative. They’ll rationalize abortion as a man’s sin, but never accept accountability for it and any man to attempt to rebuke them (for anything really) is counter-shamed for male chauvinist judgementalism. And being judgemental of any woman is the most mortal of sins a man can make in the new church

In the feminine-primary church, the Holy Spirit is the Feminine Imperative, what she says is an article of faith. Men who become aware of this via the Red Pill are a danger to it.

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SJF
SJF
7 years ago

Imagine that: GB on the hill wants to marry red pill awareness (the manosphere) with Game. Gee I wish I would have thought of that…. @ Anonymous Reader You spelled Deida wrong. But you tooled me good. With the dork reading a misunderstood, easily translated passage of TWSM. Do you even read bro? @ YaReally I’m on board with the not being stuck in the shitty negativity thing about life as a man. Thanks for your straddling the divide between red pill awareness (that shouldn’t suck at all for any man because red pill awarenesss is 90% self improvement– and… Read more »

YaReally
7 years ago

@stringerbell Here’s a big one, and this is for any guy working on his text game. “I’ve found myself trying to follow your advice of always leading and pushing either for sexual innuendo or a meetup has lead to me overgaming and some text blowouts. When I’m more subtle it goes way better” Gotta learn to calibrate. Same as infield…you don’t push hard enough and you get friendzoned, you push too hard and you get blown out. But post your txts and we can break them down and see where you’re miscalibrating. Also texting has gotten tougher in the last… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“SB: Meh it should be pretty clear by now that me sense of humor is super weird. I thought it was hilarious.”

Painfully awkward, so as a save total disasterville. You cannot defensively negotiate humour. If something doesn’t fly just keep going like it never happened.

And now I have to go deal with a cricket that broke into my house, dragging a Marshall stack with him. Jeeeeezus Christ, turn it down ya chitinous little bastard!

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YaReally
7 years ago

@stringerbell Also to clarify the girls weren’t calling me creepy off my initial text, like right away, they would like me for the first part of the interaction, I’d even use some of the same humor and they’d like it, but seemingly randomly I would just keep running into holy shit all of a sudden I’ve crossed some imaginary line that makes NO sense and now she’s 180’ed and won’t even give me a CHANCE to recover, just an INSTANT Off switch was flipped…which was the part that made my friend confused because the interactions he was reading would be… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” . . . in a voice conversation where I can use tonality etc . . .”

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Writing funny things and acting funny are two different things.

Dunhill
7 years ago

@YaReally YaReally, I’d like to hear some Game advice from you, even tho this might not be the best place to do it. (Sorry Rollo). I’ve read some of your comments and needless to say, I’d had some similar trains of thoughts when it comes to the behavior of a girl in the modern society. I don’t have the time right now, but I’ll write up the field report later if you’re interested. Basically, when I run Game, the type I’m pushing for the most is what I’d call ‘Down the Rabbit Hole’. (I’m probably not the first guy who… Read more »

N1
N1
7 years ago

@Yareally
So with regard to text game you recommend to keep it short and comfort-y, push for the meetup right away (implied by the face-to-face interaction)?

Klem
Klem
7 years ago

@ya “Also texting has gotten tougher in the last couple years with the whole Tinder situation” About to read your breakdown, but I wanted to react to that. Honestly, I’m feeling more and more that texting is just low value. Look at a girls phone and there will be 20 convo with guys just as witty as yours, trying to get her to meet with them. Of course you’ll have the “hi sweetie how was your day” chodes, but A LOT of them have tight text game nowadays, I guess with all those “how to text her” guides on the… Read more »

Klem
Klem
7 years ago

Just like the idea of forever monogamy, it’s time to let go of texting as way to get attraction, and embrace that now we will have to do the HARD stuff : learn to attract very well in person!

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Klem

SNL game is about amping attraction through the rough, leading the interaction and tight tight logistics. make sure you have tight logistics.

And most girls you don’t pull will try and force their number on you, as you avoid ever asking for it…

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

roof…

YaReally
7 years ago

@Dunhill “YaReally, I’d like to hear some Game advice from you, even tho this might not be the best place to do it. (Sorry Rollo).” lol’ed “…..Because she has SO MANY OPTIONS that she doesn’t HAVE to take a chance on you and make time for you and rush her schedule to meet up with you…. Why would this be true? I’m not saying it’s not, but what’s the mechanic behind it?” Two analogies: 1) You find a $10,000 bill on the ground. An average person will shit their pants with excitement, HOLY FUCK $10,000!!! It’s the highlight of their… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

I recommend any guy hitting the field regularly try not allowing themselves to ask for phone number for a few months, so that they’re forced to either push the interaction to an SNL or build enough Attraction that the girl OFFERS her number or asks for THEIR number instead. That forces the guy to tighten up his initial game which will help convert to more lays. There is nothing that will build your game quicker than pushing every set for SNL… Doing 100 opens just to get comfortable opening… having 10 stacks memorized… practicing a little kino here and there… Read more »

Pedat Ebediyah
7 years ago

Word, Rollo!

Her: “I’m a Christian woman, being going to church all of my life, was raised in it…”

Me: “…and your point is…”

YaReally
7 years ago

Also when you give her your number you’re removing the immediacy of needing to come with you. Julien Todd etc all talk about this, but if you give her your number then she thinks in her head “okay I like this guy I’ll see him again when we go on a date” and she REALLY thinks she’ll see you again, because she doesn’t know she’s going to lose that attraction as she gets bombarded with other stimulus and end up flaking on you. But when you’re in person, sparking her attraction, and she DOESN’T have a way to get in… Read more »

corypheus
corypheus
7 years ago

Women have always been more churchgoing than men. This is one of those human universals that evolutionary psychologists attempt to explain. It makes sense that the FI would use the church as its FOB in feminizing the rest of society.

Whatever male/female dynamic happens in the church is a good indicator of how male/female relationships will eventually look like in secular society.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“That woman is by nature intended to obey is shown by the fact that every woman who is placed in the unnatural position of absolute independence at once attaches herself to some kind of man, by whom she is controlled and governed; this is because she requires a master. If she, is young, the man is a lover; if she is old, a priest.” – Schopenhauer

Point to the philosophers.

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeX9BXnD6D4

Krauser v Deepak Wayne… LOL

Klem
Klem
7 years ago

@Sentient “SNL game is about amping attraction through the rough, leading the interaction and tight tight logistics. make sure you have tight logistics.” Yup, exactly. I would just add that you need to sprinkle in some comfort in there, once you have isolation. Also, the logistics part is not only about the “material” aspect (living nearby etc.), it’s also about getting used to all the BULLSHIT you’ll get when bringing the girl home, from the moment you leave the club to the moment she is in your bed lol. I have soooo many stories of shit going wrong, like friends… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Women have always been more churchgoing than men. Eh, I dunno. “Always” is a long time. The Eastern Orthodox don’t let any women up onto Mount Athos (monestary) at all. Maybe they have a clue? I’ve read claims that put men / women at 50/50 more or less in the Christian churches at some past date, but who can say? Nowadays, yeah, pretty much. This is one of those human universals that evolutionary psychologists attempt to explain. It makes sense that the FI would use the church as its FOB in feminizing the rest of society. Certainly since the mid… Read more »

Roused
7 years ago

SJF wrote: “Great point. On of the biggest rookie mistakes in red pill and game is to forget about the purpose of women shit testing men. And not actually: 1. Realizing that they are being shit tested and 2. Responding appropriately to that test.” That. Spot on right about that. The more I keep an active awareness about shit testing the more I see it going on all the time. The more I keep my head screwed on straight and anchor myself thinking “it’s just a shit test, don’t react” the better I pass them. It’s when I forget and… Read more »

j
j
7 years ago

@yareally

lol

Dudes chase chicks in their 20s (low value to women)Try to "get rich" in 30s (high value to women)Wasted both decades. Do the opposite.— Wall Street Playboys (@WallStPlayboys) August 22, 2016

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Todd Rundgren, big hit from early 1970’s (1972) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_25z8AoByw Aerosmith with Steve Tyler as lead, big hit from eary 1970’s (1974) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXI2BPRzaA Check out the verbals and the subcomms. Can’t understand how a woman could select one of the above for sperm and the other for resources? How she could make AF-BC work? “I’m pregnant and the child is yours” has to be one of the oldest, if not THE oldest, lie told by women to men. Predating history for sure. Part of their fluid, flowing, water-like, femininity. Not anything like monkey-branching, or hypergamy, nah. But, hey. pedestalizers gonna pedestalize,… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

If I’d grown up in SoCal or Maui I might well have ended up a surfer instead of a cyclist. But your observation is essentially the same as mine; a stable bicycle is always in the process of falling over. If you attempt to make it “stable” by locking the steering, it just falls right over, unrideable. A bicycle is ridden by “correcting” the fall, by throwing into a fall to the other side (by counter-steering, which is one of the reasons it takes a bit of doing to get the “knack” of the thing). Hence, a bicycle follows a… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

One more thing, let’s get in a time machine and go back to sometime around Liv’s birth.

Ask Todd Rundgren “Do women ever lie?” I bet he’d waffle at least, maybe do a lot of rationalization.

Ask Steve Tyler the same question, likely he’d just laugh.

Because, like, duh.

Andrew
Andrew
7 years ago

“The idea that history is going somewhere is a foundational belief of Communism, to the extent that Communists have deified it as History; and you must keep yourself on the right side of History, or History will exact righteous vengeance.” I see where you’re going, yes. Though it’s interesting how the communists depersonalise it – by History, they actually mean “the mob”, but making it abstract conceals from themselves what they’re actually on about. Let me fire back with a different question. In my city, I work near a couple of the big universities, and there’s a lot of Socialist… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“what is it that attracts women in particular to Socialist-style protest movements?”

The same thing that sends them to the bathroom in groups.

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago
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having a bad day
having a bad day
7 years ago

@gb hill @YaReally I’ve gone through something of a paradigm change lately regarding game. I’ve actually come around further to your way of thinking believe it or not. … So my kudos to you and HABD and Sentient. Whatever your differences you guys are “figuring shit out” and offering truly solid info. Even better then the best posters over at SedFast; although you’ve got a few guys there that also know what they are talking about (ThinMan, PureEvil, Skills360, etc). props on sticking with it and figuring this shit out…i knew you could do it…lol… when you are actually in… Read more »

troberts77
troberts77
7 years ago

The FI is driven by the same feminine pragmatism often discussed here. That same pragmatism thinks around you to find ways to exploit your own rules for use against you.

*slow claps*
@sunwukong

You sir just won the internet today.

theasdgamer
7 years ago

Field Report Funny thing happened. Went to a new club. PBR Big Sky with dancers in bikini bottoms and leather. Met a buddy there. Chatted up a bouncer and a pour girl and a couple after opening the girl and the man showed up later. Asked one girl to dance and it was her first time at the club. She followed well, so I spun her a lot and did some cool patterns. At the end she had a beatific smile and her eyes were unfocused. She said that she felt dizzy. The girl didn’t want to leave my side.… Read more »

theasdgamer
7 years ago

Drama Report Remember the married girl I mentioned who greeted me passionately a while ago (extended-duration bear hugs/passionate kiss on cheek/leg hug)? Thinking about it, I realized that this puts me at risk. Some people at this bar don’t like me and the girl’s husband might be at this bar some day and they might magnify what happened and make the husband jealous. So, I need to be aware of this and be ready to deal with it and defuse potential jealousy (“we’re just friends and have never been alone together” and “your wife told me that she’s loyal and… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“That same pragmatism thinks around you to find ways to exploit your own rules for use against you.”

That is Rule 4.

Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis was written about its author.

Dunhill
7 years ago

@YaReally Well, here’s the report of how it went down. I’ll break it down from my perspective, but a new one would be nice. (Knowledge is power) So, one day an old friend called me to meet for some drinks (‘been a long time…’), so I invited him over at a cafe near my place. As we were approaching it, I bumped into a buddy who is a regular there and at one point, as I’m standing I look away, and spot a hot brunette sitting over at the other end. A 3-second stare-off literally, then I turned cheek. I… Read more »

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rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kcDEHkSgpuw I can’t see the meaning of this life I’m leading I try to forget you as you forgot me This time there is nothing left for you to take This is goodbye Summer is miles and miles away And no one would ask me to stay And I should contemplate this change To ease the pain And I should step out of the rain Turn away Close to ending it all, I am drifting through the stages Of the rapture born within this loss Thoughts of death inside Tear me apart from the core of my soul Summer is… Read more »

Nathan Briscoe (@nathanbrisk)

This is a message to the angry Red-pillers. Life isn’t a game–it’s a war zone. If you get stuck in a rut of anger, anxiety, shame, bitterness, unforgiveness, etc. (pick your poison), you’re only a few steps from a mental or physical grave. Alcoholism and substance abuse run rampant in our culture because people either can’t or won’t deal with their internal issues. These issues can’t be seen, and the provocateurs are also invisible. Today’s church culture is bullshit, but your life is going to be bullshit too if you harbor compromise. Can you condemn the church culture for its… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

It’s like something out of several classic science fiction stories, from time to time a ‘bot hurtles out of the Bites vortex and crashes into the world of Rational Males, only to fall into pieces. Not even decent target practice. Just another pawn, eh “Nathan”?

But it does show that DHV’ing works, even on da net, at least on aging, menopausal, bitchy feminists.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

@Nathan:

I have the heart of Jesus.

I keep it in a jar on my desk.

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Nathan Briscoe (@nathanbrisk)

@Rollo

There isn’t anything you haven’t written on, but this comments section is like an open wound.

And just to be clear–my comment was directed at the piteous and bitter members of the section.

Not sure what IB is . . .

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Destroyer
Destroyer
7 years ago

@Sun Wukong,

Fuck you, you fucking mangina feminist pussy.

constrainedlocus
7 years ago

It seems to me that inserting vasalgel as a variable into the equation of male-female sexual interchange and reproduction, while interesting and new, will not change the fundamental reality and dynamics of the relationship once a male agrees to have the vasalgel filter removed from his undercarriage, and his selected female partner is finally inseminated. All the stuff leading up to that point though, yeah, really interesting. The very idea, for example, that women might have to actually behave differently, might have to “qualify” to a higher standard for the attention of even medium-value males for the purpose her reproduction,… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
7 years ago

A couple of ideas from a few posts, comments and this seems the best place for it. Why would we cede any game field, anywhere, to the FI? PUA’s advise newbies that any venue is a possible pickup lesson, “Get out there” “unjustified confidence” and such. I agree. Every venue is an opportunity, a lesson for pickup. PUA’s are good at their trade because it does work, their techniques offer a workaround to the dominant FI. Why not take that attitude, IF one wills, back to the Church? There’s no Highlander-style no-combat policy between PUA’s and the churchianity. There’s potential… Read more »

Omega Man
Omega Man
7 years ago

from my Muslim friend… American men are supposed to worship the trinity: a father, the son, & the holy spirit, but instead, they pray primarily to a hippy-looking white man with long hair. what they don’t want to acknowledge is that if they REALLY “un-whitewash” their thoughts, they’d openly and willing admit that they pray to a middle eastern man of color who was a refugee…the exact type of person they want banned from the USA. about women… he says that, “Islam will win,” but not because it’s more true or better, etc. he says that because he believes that… Read more »

jsolbakken
jsolbakken
7 years ago
Reply to  Omega Man

Jesus would not be banned from entering our country because He is not a follower of Islam. The problem is ISLAM!!! ISLAM is a death cult. ISLAM turns ordinary people into fanatical mass murderers. There are peaceful Muslims in the world, but there is no such thing as peaceful ISLAM. Men were able to handle women for thousands of years before the disease called Islam came along. Christian men were able to handle Christian women for almost 2000 years until post modernistic Feminazism came along. The world does not need Islam, unless the world wants to destroy itself. There is… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” . . . they pray to a middle eastern man of color who was a refugee…the exact type of person they want banned from the USA . . . women will destroy the christian church thru their self-serving agenda. ” “i do believe that is what is being said here, correct?” There is a story in one of the gospels that Jesus spent some time, as a child, as a refugee from Palestine, but he remained within the greater political and social sphere. Basically what he did was analogous to moving from one US state to another adjoining one,… Read more »

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rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago
rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago

SFC Ton
http://wp.me/p4pKtS-MH

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago

Before the red pill

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Sunnybutt
Sunnybutt
6 years ago

Rollo, I think this is the wrong lens for evaluating a religion, or any belief for that matter. The question needs to be, not “how feminized is it?” or “does it serve men’s interest?” but rather “Is it true?” The truth or falsehood of a doctrine isn’t the same as the current execution of that doctrine. The Church / Christian Culture is currently executing the instructions given in the Bible very badly. That doesn’t change whether those instructions are true or good; we can’t evaluate them because they aren’t being done. I think you understand this, of course. Keep up… Read more »

Sunnybutt
Sunnybutt
6 years ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

“what is ‘true’ is subject to how that ‘truth’ is interpreted by whoever believes it is so.” I dispute that assertion. “Belief” is not Truth. Stipulate two things: 1. That the claims of Islam in the Qur’an are true, and that 2. The whole population of the Earth is Catholic (or Hindu or Pastafarian or whatever). Can the human race, by belief, alter the nature of the Universe? Or, in this scenario, is all humanity screwed? If a religion is true, it’s a fact of the universe that does not care what we think about it, any more than an… Read more »

Paul
Paul
6 years ago

The sad thing is: many churches have become this way by IGNORING God’s commands, as if they know somewhat better. Credit to Dalrock and others that are trying to fight back and restore what was lost. Unfortunately even the bible itself paints a grim picture: “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” I’ve found the bible to paint a realistic picture on the state of marriage (e.g. 1… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

There was a pingback to this:

https://insanitybytes2.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/losing-my-religion/

So I left a reply:

Yes. There is a thing called biology. And if you study it you learn that 80% of women want 20% of the men. And that is Rollo’s main point. Everything on his site comes from that fact of biology.

Biology is an attack on the church? OK. So was science generally in earlier ages.

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DFD
DFD
5 years ago

Wow…..So true. You named my story as an involuntarily divorced man who whose pastor preaches “macho Christianity” while caving to any woman who comes crying into his office with a sob story, and who only gets one side of the story. He is on the local radio station and his name would be recognized. Or at least the name of the guy who runs the show would be recognized in Evangelical circles. He taught us the Westminster Faith with the GI Williamson commentary (Presbyterian PCA church), but that seems to be only for show when the rubber meets the highway.… Read more »

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Enrique Gonzales
Enrique Gonzales
4 years ago

Absolutely BRILLIANT!!! Sums up my life to a T….got married to a woman I didn’t really love at 20 years old just in order to be able to finally have sex. I quit going to church a few years ago after my 26 year mostly Sexless once every two weeks Marriage ended. I started back 4 years later and went for 8 months to a number of different churches but stopped once again because of all the Self Deprecating Women’s Ass Kissing WEAK Preachers in the Pulpits today.

WakeUP
WakeUP
4 years ago

Its quite masterful how a very masculine book has been manipulated to press forward the self defeating feminist agenda. Anyone who has actually studied scripture from its historical language “Hebrew” would know that christianity’s true root is a hidden kabbalistic text to protect Torah and Oral traditions, during the Roman Jewish wars 2000 years ago. All the stories are vehicles to carry deeper spiritual truths designed to transform the psyche. However those literalist have been able to pick and choose scripture to support social norms throughout history. Lets face it polygamy rape war male leadership etc. That is just about… Read more »

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