During last week’s Red Pill Monthly discussion I was presented with the question as to whether I agreed with women’s mandatory military conscription and my take on women serving in combat roles in the military. You can listen to my take on the livecast, but since I’d already had this post in the works I’ll detail it a bit more here.
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The “Warrior Princess” myth
In making the 300: Rise of an Empire they realized they had a problem, the 300 were all men.
So now in the next movie we have Eva Green as a killing machine admiral of the Persian fleet. Wait, that’s not enough! Let’s end the movie with Lena Headey being a killing machine too. Just to make the warrior princess quota.
I happened to be listening to a feature interview on NPR on a long drive home about a week ago. The interview was of a semi-famous actress-turned-writer-turned-director who’s known for her feminist slant on storytelling and forwarding the narrative of the Feminine Imperative equalism.
So as not to focus too much on the individual and more on the messaging, I’ll just fast forward to a part of the conversation I thought was most salient:
“There was a part of the film (she’s producing/directing) where (SIW®, Warrior Princess cliché) gets into a fight with the ‘bad guy’ and the guys on the set thought that her reactions were unrealistic and no woman would do what she was for the reasons she was doing it. But the women on the set were like ‘Oh totally, I’d do that, hell I’d do worse if I was in that situation’.”
“I told the guys on set that if they really want to see gender equality they needed to embrace all sides of women. They needed to let go of all these preconceptions that women are nurturing or empathetic, and accept that we can be just as violent or hostile as men when we’re pushed this hard.”
I got to thinking about this part of the interview and I got an insight into the belief system of a woman ego-invested in the egalitarian / equalist narrative that had been taught to her since her formative years.
For women so saturated in equalism there’s a kind of convenient duplicity that expects a safe environment in which they can comfortably, and without risk of injury, play out the fantasy of not just being ‘as tough’, but tougher than men.
Nowhere is this safe fantasy more repeated than in the stories that the men and women of the equalist mindset construct for themselves with the expectation of loving mass consumption. I covered this from one angle in Storytelling and I focused primarily on the unbelievability of that narrative, but I didn’t really get into why that narrative is so appealing to that set.
As I mention there, in the world of ideas and possibilities, where all conditions and events are in the control of the storyteller, and all outcomes are scripted by the individual, what comes out in playing God is a revealing of the mindset (and the zeitgeist that created it) of the one in control of telling that story.
Fempowerment
When I wrote The Medium is the Message I primarily focused on observing women’s behaviors as the primary motivator of what their true ‘headspace’ is. However, it’s also important to consider this principle on a macro scale of societal influence. The influence women wish to exert on our collective social order is evidenced in the behavior of their storytelling and the storytelling of their proxies (i.e. men who willingly foment their message and fantasies).
White Knights and sympathetic Betas attuned by a lifetime of Blue Pill conditioning are easy foils in selling out their masculine interests if it means their identifying with the superiority fantasies of women is in someway intrinsically rewarding to them (i.e. potential sexual access with women).
But what are the fantasies women imagine themselves living out in their own storytelling? Since the rise of women’s Hypergamy as the societal priority this has been the convenience of female empowerment and the fantasy that it can be balanced with women intrinsic needs and drives as a human female.
The problem with equalism (as opposed to evolved intergender complementarity) is that it reliably creates piss poor men and women. Taken to its extreme, the ideal state of equalism is androgyny – and that’s a best case scenario. At worst, the concept that gender is a relative mental/social construct creates individuals who arbitrarily define their gender identity based on the opinions of others, or languish in a gender identity purgatory of confusion.
The greatest danger the ideology of an all-are-the-same egalitarianism poses to an individual is the belief that men and women can be fully self-contained and self-fulfilled entities mutually exclusive of each other. From the Warrior Princess perspective this equalist ideal of a ‘perfected’ woman is one in which the best aspects of the masculine and the feminine are represented in one female person.
Ignoring all realities to the contrary, this super woman, this Strong Independent Woman® archetype, is not a ‘woman’ at all. She’s an amorphous being that combines the strength and independence of conventional masculinity with the ‘womanness’ that makes those traits acceptable in a society that would otherwise ridicule a man for displaying them as emblematic of maleness.
In a male embodiment, this autonomous self-sufficient being is a laughable parody; an exaggerated cliché of all the ego insecurities we popularly believe men are predisposed to. But make this strong, independent being female and all the ridiculousness transforms into pride and inspiration. In such a pretext even women’s weaknesses and insecurities (the very traits that would make a man less of a man) become a source of that idealized strength – as a woman.
The truth of course is that this egalitarian ideal is unrealistic and at odds with the reality that women and men have both strengths and weaknesses for which the other is (should be) the complement to. No man is an island, but the Strong Independent Woman® is an entity apart.
False Pride, Real Danger
Now I say that this equalist ideal is a danger to women on whole, but collectively that ideal is a greater danger on a societal level. The reason being is that women have expectations from men while simultaneously believing they are functional equals in all ways to men. In the fantasy of storytelling, and the ubiquitous control it allows the creator, danger, outcome and conditions become mitigated for the sake of the story. The real danger comes when those stories become the template on which women (and men) will expect reality to follow.
Dalrock summed this up perfectly for me in a comment I’ve returned to for years:
These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.
They wan’t this all to happen without giving up their freedom; they want to play this out in the context of serial monogamy, so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.
They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling unsafe.
One more thing. As I mentioned above they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimic would appear. They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control the next. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.
Even within the social parameters of what passes for egalitarianism today, there is still a want and expectation on the part of men to make the stories and fantasies of women’s male-equal strengths safe for them in a real context. A prime illustration of this can be found in the language of the women in the video I linked in The War Brides of Europe post.
Whether the show was contrived or not, there’s a fraying of ends going on in these women psyches. The inherently unsafe fantasies of women’s self-perceptions of male-equal strength are being contested by the reality of their situation. The men who were supposed to make the world safe for women’s indulgences of male strength fantasies are proving to be unreliable in affording them that security.
The roller coaster is suddenly real and the prospect of injury and death are real as well. On some level of consciousness they understand that their equalist’s notions of male-equal strength are in no way sufficient for survival in a real test. They are understandably nervous, but nervous in a way that belies the disillusionment of ego-investments they’ve based their lives around.
Women have relied so much on the behind-the-scenes security of men making the world safe for them that they begin to believe they are men’s functional equals. And not only functional equals, but more perfected, autonomously independent, beings that should be a match for the harsh realities their storytellers told them they ought to be.
In fact so dependent on this imagining are women that they expect the simulations of battle to accommodate their lack of capacity to handle the reality that they’ll lobby to alter the qualification necessary to engage with that reality. Thus, the physical requirements for combat suitability are reduced to a degree where women can feel like a success and maintain the storyteller’s archetype of themselves, thus sustaining their ego’s investment in it.
The problem then becomes one where men not only become responsible for women’s security as well as their own security, but also the maintenance of their feminine-primary self-image as a strong, independent, individual capable of achieving an equal measure among men while the real-world requirements mean life or death for them both.
The fantasy of female empowerment is not just the social expectation of men, but it is also the life-threatening liability of men who don’t (or can’t) perform it for them. Men literally risk their lives to maintain women’s equalist fantasy of independent strength apart from, and above that of men.
Heheh, Blax, I actually had to look up *dead* in Urban dictionary.
I’m not as smart as I sound. And I don’t take intellectualizing with women as a DHV. I used to. It didn’t work.
@ Six bullets What is fully set in motion cannot be easily stopped. Picture an old chevy truck doing 85mph w/ drum brakes and 30% steering play the spider gears shear and the rear wheel brake drum axle and all come out of the diff housing. They then then pass the swerving truck wobbling wildly until they leave the road and plant into the ground still spinning.
Too bad commodities are dead.
@ scribbler O’daniel & SJF Class
Did you guys actually read Kate’s comments?
Should I?
Totally off topic: The movie “45 Years” is quite humorous. Up for Oscars nomination is Charlotte Rampling. It is slow and British. But is rather humorous as the character Geoff Mercer employs soft dread after 45 years of marriage. (69 year old characters). The MSM has it wrong about a husband “keeping secrets” rather than the employ of soft dread in long married couples. It is quite a squirm for the Charlotte Rampling character of Kate (heh, Kate) who is subjected to soft dread. (cough, cough, ….bittorrent, old married British couple movies are boring and not worth paying for, but… Read more »
@stuffinbox
Agree, but lets not forget: As the culture grows we layer on new parts faster then we shed the old ones, causing complexity at the exponential scale.
Fractional banking works on the way up, AND down.
@6
Fractional banking? Monetarily I expect totalitarianism one e currency deflation on non necessities inflation on necessities and a totaly clueless move backwards. ,
Ronda Rousey, last year’s Warrior Princess cries on Ellen, lol. What a nasty, ridiculous whacked out cunt she is.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwCdv9iR8P8&w=560&h=315%5D
@Stuffinbox “Should I?” No. Typical woman interloper on a manosphere blog. It would be fine if she just admitted to feminine manipulations in catering to the red pill, rather than demean the Masculine Imperative. (Along with the Q.E.D. thingy, which I think I get. But find it hard to get. I claim ignorance on that.) What good is a red pill women if she doesn’t just admit to the feminine manipulation. What good is it on a red pill masculine site, to not play along with the masculine? To have empathy for masculinity? To be solipsistic and go with the… Read more »
One of the greatest men I have ever known ( that wasn’t my Father… ) was a short-ish polish gentleman. I know I’ve spoken of him here before, but he is the type of man that bears repeating. He was a MASTER of a thousand skills. I don’t know what his official IQ might have been, but many people misjudged him by his manner of dress/appearance and his chosen mode of cryptic and curse filled communication. I loved every syllable of it though. I always considered myself to be a man of many diverse talents, but he showed me a… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H14-Nuh_N30 “Kate” She plays wipeout on the drums the squirrels and the birds come Gather around to sing the guitar Oh I…have you got nothing to say When all words fail she speaks Her mix tape’s a masterpiece Walks through the garden so the roses can see Oh I…have you got nothing to say And you can see the daisies in her footsteps Dandelions, butterflies I wanna be Kate Everyday she wars the same thing I think she smokes pot She’s everything I need, She’s everything I’m not Oh. I… Have you got nothing to say She never gets wet… Read more »
@Stuffin – Yeah, I read her comment. Yawn, IQ distributions by sex, nothing new there. Did you read my retort?
@ scribb Off course I read your comments.
I was always taught that mensa lowers the bar on certain tests for women. And still the percentage of female members stands at 40%.
So sometimes even the most intelligent lower the bar for more company.
Dumb here
@Scribbler: Do nothing suicide bitch. @SJF: “It’s not a fucking zero sum game.” T.Y.G. @Blaximus: ” . . . many people misjudged him by his manner of dress/appearance and his chosen mode of cryptic and curse filled communication.” Maybe I should curse more. ” . . . he taught me a dozen ways to send folks to the hospital or morgue . . .” I went to the hospital today. There was a sign on the front door informing that weapons weren’t allowed on the premises. In a hospital, full of sharp things, pointy things, stringy things, blunt heavy things… Read more »
@ KFG Uhuhuhmm in a hospital full of sharp things being used by people trained in sop protocol.
You are a hero for making it out alive and intact.
@Kryptokate You guys keep using “men” and “women” as broad categories when you’re talking about very rare cognitive abilities that the VAST majority of both men and women lack. Most *PEOPLE* are not cerebral, logical, or interested in science, philosophy, and abstract subjects. Interesting, what “rare cognitive ability” was mentioned? I think the discussion was on differences in behavior between the sexes when dealing with the opposite sex. If you thought we were describing the general thought processes of the sexes, and hence committing an apex fallacy on estimation of how people think, you were mistaken. MOST men are completely… Read more »
“Maybe I should curse more.” I do feel masculine liberation–freedom from constraint–on a manosphere blog such as this. Where masculine cursing is, well, masculine. I’m feeling terribly constrained on sportsman’s forums that have “moderators”. Seems you can’t speak your mind to guys that aren’t in your tribe. Those so called moderators on those so called forums feel the need to take the rough edges off of true masculinity, as does anything main-stream today. And the half of me that is Polish, needs liberation. Shit, James Michener’s “Poland” was an eye-opener on the above, middle and lower class travesty that was… Read more »
@SJF Most of the expertly profane people I know live in the condition of cronic perfectionism. And speak the language of frustration.
& on that note I would like to take this opportunity to thank all for another stimulating and entertaining evening. Off to watch the fucking fem tv w/ wifey.
lurk ya later
@Anonymous Reader – thank-you for your comments. To clarify my position its a no on the Blue Pill Equalitarianism – instead I’m the guy that drones on and on about the egalitiarian (which is a different thing). If you are interested – I define the egalitarian as the belief that the perspective of the equal fundamental existential worth of individuals is a worthy perspective as mitigated by discernment around the expectation of reciprocity in this regards, and I believe this can potentially operate at least male-intra-gender-wise, . IMO it has some definite advantages like allowing for the possibility of win-win… Read more »
I’m not so sure.
Do I sound frustrated in the last couple years here?
Truth: I’m not.
While not a complete look, this vid is great on the impact of women’s mating strategy on our society, and how they betray their ingroup.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw&w=560&h=315%5D
“” She has no concept how fragile our society is and how laws mean nothing to these men. “”
Imagine that the entire electricity grid of a major city or even an entire state got knocked out and was irreparable for a number or weeks or longer.
After about a week, you would begin to see how fragile our “civilized” society is.
This was nicely shown in the 1996 film; The Trigger Effect.
Women do ok, in gendarmes units. EG: Italian Carabinieri, Israel Border Police, US Coast Guard.
“I define the egalitarian as the belief that the perspective of the equal fundamental existential worth of individuals is a worthy perspective”
My take on this is that every person has to define ‘value’ for themselves. You can’t let society define your worth or your perceived value of other people as long as you are realistic about strengths and weaknesses. So, I don’t mind if Wildman has his definition of egalitarian because arguing about fundamental worth is pointless. Everyone has their own perspective. Same with moral values.
@Andy – Re: Egalitarianism – Social order and morality isn’t monolithic. In the U.S. the egalitarian ethos was balanced by an incredible belief in the power and worth of the individual. When we didn’t see ourselves in “classes” and weren’t riven by identity politics, it was much easier to live with the tension that exists between these two concepts. I wonder if you young guys have ever even heard phrases like “rugged individualism”, “can do attitude”, “American ingenuity”. These were ideas iw was raised on, they were truths about what it meant to be American and were all about the… Read more »
@Karl – When you say “gendarme” what distinction are you drawing? In the Israeli Defense Forces, the female soldiers assigned to combat units are called “mattresses” and they are expected to provide sexual pleasure to front line soldiers If you are referring to policing, well all I suggest you do is go sign a Ride-Along release and travel with cops in an inner city, high crime environment with a female cop and a male cop. Lol, you will see how women are treated. You will see how calls where violence is likely are dispatched to the tough men, you will… Read more »
@SJF
“And the half of me that is Polish, needs liberation.”
Four bullshit national stereotypes. Check out #2
https://bitterfallacies.wordpress.com/2015/04/12/4-bullshit-national-stereotypes/
@Bachelorocles – I have to disagree the Russians are certainly a bunch of rampaging alcoholics, and that is what is so endearing about them…Lol, just kidding, sort of.
Bachelorocles,
I’m convinced from reading the history of Poland that the 12 ruling classes for most of its history subjugated (hence the liberation comment)the non-landowners and subjected them to hard work. I think over generations, the poles evolved to have fortitude under hard work conditions. (I saw this trait in my grandmother, mother and myself.) Has nothing to do with intelligence. I’m proud of my genes and my intellectual ability, however it derived. And I don’t self deprecate. That would be stupid.
@scribblerg
Yeah it would be nice if everyone had the same values. I’m just saying that it’s unrealistic to expect anyone other than YOU to abide by YOUR value system.
@Andy – A truly absurd thing to say. Culture is where values come from and a monocultural society is defined by shared values and a system that enforces those values. Your statement is a testament to the confusion which pervades today in our multi-kulti shit show of a society. Today, everyone is just making it up as they go along and the chaos we live in is a result of such an approach to values. Multicutural societies end in revolution. Culture is decisive. U.S. culture inheres from Anglo Saxon Protestant values born of the collision of The Enlightenment taming Christianity.… Read more »
@SJF I have only been reading your comments for a few months,and don’t intend to go back further. Although if I get more free time who knows. And no you don’t seem very frustrated. Your active interest and participation in a wide variety of hands on work,would lead me to believe that if you ever did suffer from chronic perfectionism you have found ways to deal with it. Asked & answered Blax’s little big man polish mentor, I believe did suffer from this malady. And passed on his solution by the emphasis on overcoming fear. Some perfectionists are paralyzed by… Read more »
“Culture is where values come from”
Partially. Experiences and circumstances have something to do with it. Teaching values is only going to get you so far.
Values: I should have also included fidelity and chastity among those values. Running fast today – hope all you fellow TRM SOBs are out there crushing it in your lives today!
@Stuffinbox I love my 372XP Chainsaw. “Some perfectionists are paralyzed by the fear of not getting things just right to the point of inaction. Your active interest and participation in a wide variety of hands on work,would lead me to believe that if you ever did suffer from chronic perfectionism you have found ways to deal with it.” You are dead to rights about those statements. As I became more masterful about things I became more perfectionist. But as I became more masterful things, things became “no big deal”. I do have that inaction and procrastination thing going on all… Read more »
@Andy:
“I’m just saying that it’s unrealistic to expect anyone other than YOU to abide by YOUR value system.”
Andy clearly was willing to listen a few months back, back then about men “enabling” wives of military stationed abroad to cheat.
@Scribblerg:
I think this time you are the one missing something. This concept isn’t about multiculturalism. Even just Red Pill and Blue Pill “value systems” are an example – RP can’t expect BP men to abide by their value system.
You’re probably aware that the Israeli military found that if it placed women in combat roles, it caused higher casualties because the men in their units would put themselves at increased risk to protect the women. Also, if a woman was killed or captured (especially captured) it devastated the morale of the unit much more than if it had happened to a man.
any FR’s guys? 🙂
@Wild – Your reply to my comment about the existential mindfuck men are subjected to and how you deal with it was not lost on me. We are on the exact same path, brother. One of the weird things about that double-bind I so often found myself in is that over time it made me so damn cynical and destroyed my motivation but I couldn’t see it. I was still ego invested in my idealism. It’s pernicious. The key for me now is exactly what you say, just relax into and embrace my masculinity without idealistic expectations of the world.… Read more »
IAS – I get your point but strictly speaking, the Red Pill isn’t about values, it’s praxeology. It’s a lens of analysis and a POV. Culture contains values. But I am being a bit pedantic and semantic about it, I realize. I’m doing so to make a point. I believe that abandoning the values I mentioned is thrust us into chaos. I’m also coming to understand that the big break point was when chastity was abandoned by women, and men too. I’m old enough to remember thinking “cads” were actually not people to admire. Fidelity was also very important. If… Read more »
Regarding warfare and the military, females can do many things quite well; but what they lack is durability. When I watch war videos the soldiers carry a lot of gear; 50, 80 pounds?
I just don’t see women able to carry the necessary gear, run with it, jump out a vehicle with it… day in and day out and not blow out knees and have other joint issues….
@thwack This was also the conclusion of a female Lieutenant commanding a platoon of men in Iraq during the 2000s. I don’t have a link handy, but at one point she gave an interview to GMA or some mainstream hub and straight-out said that her service in combat was so draining, even with all the extra physical help that the guys were giving her, that she is now infertile in her early 30s. Her service literally destroyed her body, and she didn’t even endure the worst of it. Women simply were not built for the sustained power output that men… Read more »
@Scray Well, nothing earth-shattering so far. But how’s this: Approached a set of 8 (I think) girls in a casual venue. I didn’t have any wings. They were celebrating a 21st birthday for one of them. Dressed nicely but conservatively (so I knew they weren’t like some sorority group that was gonna get shitfaced and fuck dudes in the bathroom, they were maintaining a respectable persona in front of each other). I approached when there was 4 of them standing there (the others hadn’t arrived yet) and got IOI’s pretty strongly from one girl. I basically ran her through A1-3… Read more »
Which one of these cops do you suppose compensates the most for the other?
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/08/21/17/14/photo-of-mismatched-queensland-cops-goes-viral
That 5’1″ policewoman is a liability. If she ever patrolled a mean street in the U.S., she’d probably get a fellow officer, or non-criminal civilian killed.
…testing ( posts vanishing )
@culum @yareally Thanks. Consistency is the main thing. I find that focusing on social dynamics is a huge motivator for me. I found I really enjoyed, this past saturday, on just watching people. Like the awkward redheaded guy who was probably the orbiter for the 5 black girl. He came in an hour before she did, saving a seat for her and not saying anything to anybody. Then when she showed up he gave up his seat and stood at her side. And said NOTHING as she came on to me, but was EXTREMELY happy when I included him in… Read more »
@scray
I had my first FR a few days ago. Its at the end (page 4 I think) of the outrage brokers post comments, if you want to dig for it. Otherwise, like I said above, I will have another this sun.
@Rollo the one on the left till lunch time then the one on the right probably covers while he eats the other half of her meal.
@SJF Dead to rights, doesn’t sound very agreeable to me. Never had much time for personality but checked out the link and they all seem positive. The 372 w/ 24″ bar 84d 3/8 oregon chipper 35deg 10deg under .075rake hand file job at 14000 rpm is the fastest block saw in anything over 16″ d I have ever held.I have used the ics rz60 to sculpt stone. @Blaximus am very interested in shrinking sheet metal ie; hail damage ,dings and dents. Have used dry ice too harden the sun shell in THM 700 R 4. And to shrink shafts while… Read more »
“Barbie” joins the army. “Feminism” is not feminism. The meaning of the word itself has been bastardized and perverted. Today and for several decades “feminism” is defined by females trying to become males. The entire mantra is all about females attempting to emulate male characteristics while blaming the male population for woman’s inability to do so and simultaneously demanding that males function more like females. Femininity today is counterfeit masculinity. Today’s masculinity is yesterday’s sissyness. Feminists seek to destroy or at least confuse the natural contrast and complementary between the genders. They hope to hide from reality. This impetus to… Read more »
Our condition is not the result of chromosomal hardwiring.The jury is still out on that.Understanding the hardwiring is a tool to correct the current missconditioning of society.A society full of brainwashed strawberries,pink and bruise easily.
Re: NBTM – Ah, so finally he’s dropped the mask. He’s better than the rest of us – and apparently entire fields of science, lol. Fyi, NBTM, mental masturbation is better done in private as you will avoid making it so clear what a fatuous ponce you are.
Look up narcissism, the pathological type…Have a nice day. One last question, are you gay?
@ stuffinbox You only have to shrink sheet metal if you are forced to ” pull ” it so much that it loses it’s integrity and becomes weakened and overly flexible. Dents from hail damage, parking lot dings and the like can normally be handled with a hammer and dolly. In cases where a dolly can’t be used, the dent can be pulled from it’s deepest point with a stud/welder dent puller, like so http://www.eastwood.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p899b.jpg Now, in the case of a HUGE dent, pulling it may require the use of heat ( torch ) which will weaken the metal unless… Read more »
Oh @stuffinbox
If you become a Metal God, you will be able to perfect metal like this –
http://image.hotrod.com/f/95206838+w660+h495+cr1/1968-dodge-charger.jpg
Thanks Blaximus There is a spread hand size dent in the lower fender on my 51 f5. And I never have worked any metal this heavy before.Don’t want to f it up worse new am fenders run over five bills.
The Rm smoking lounge-locker room,for bench racers?
Nice 440 magnum super T10 4.11 posi hays clutch.That was some serious heavy metal.
@Stuffinbox “@SJF Dead to rights, doesn’t sound very agreeable to me. Never had much time for personality but checked out the link and they all seem positive.” I don’t understand what “Dead to rights, doesn’t sound very agreeable to me.” probably because you are too taciturn and not spelling out your thoughts correctly. I’ve come across a lot of interesting gentlemen in the past five years after falling into a new paradigm of engaging with men for the sake of camaraderie and plain and simple just being a guy in a gang of men. (This blog included. And you being… Read more »
@ stuff..
Okay. I’m gonna resist blathering on, but your talking about one of my passions.
I’d encourage you to practice. Stay away from hoods though…lol. Bodywork is an acquired skill through practice, but it’s not as difficult once you start trying it and learning what the metal wants.
Take dents out of any metal you can find at first. Even grab discarded, dented fenders from wherever ( junkyards ). practice.
The longer you do it, the better you will get. Plus, youtube has 9,000 videos on the subject. But, don’t go after your pride and joy right away.
Wild Person If you are interested – I define the egalitarian as the belief that the perspective of the equal fundamental existential worth of individuals is a worthy perspective as mitigated by discernment around the expectation of reciprocity in this regards, and I believe this can potentially operate at least male-intra-gender-wise 1. I’m not interested. 2. your definition contains many undefined terms, and frankly looks like a blob of multiple buzzwords harvested from different popular delusions of the last 50 years. Combining Ayn Rand with 2nd wave feminism with “I’m Ok You’re OK” with self actualization with Eckenkar with Transcendental… Read more »
@ Anonymous Reader…
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/946/735/a0a.jpg
” You would benefit more, much more from reading Rollo’s books and the archives than continuiing to carry on your own version of Ptolomaic epi-epi-epicycle rewrites of 1970’s failed pop psych/equalitarian feminism. ”
Im gonna put this on a T shirt.
Weekend mini FR: Went to a millennial / sort of bohemian bar and coffee shop for a while with other people. Sitting by myself for a few minutes while everyone else got sorted out, a barmaid mirrrored me. She came sashaying around a corner and probably had not seen me before, I smirked at her and she mirrored my smirk right back exactly, while on the way to pick up an order. Her next return trip other people were sitting with me and she looked confused. For the next hour she kept approaching me / us, then backing away, then… Read more »
@SJF Prefer dead on to dead to rights as rights rhymes w/ sights.Taciturn in typing but give me a cup of coffee and I’ll put you to sleep and then go talk to the woodpile.Got a great group of guys to hunt and fish with and work with no time for douche bags The wife is now much better since I swallowed the red pill funny how that works.Still i notice the overuse of dread will kick some manipulative mate guarding into high gear causing social pressure to ramp it up on the fi front. Still working on the balance… Read more »
@AR Lol @ your reply to Wildman, he does rather tend to write convoluted targets around his pet arrows. Re: the FR, I keep running into the same thing. Kicking myself a lot lately for not jumping through windows. It’s partly an awareness thing of course, but ya, mostly the subcomms. The crazy thing is, it demonstrates how developed women’s radar is for these things. I got a few more IOI’s when I learned to DHV properly but it was nothing compared to a shift that happened maybe 2 months-ish ago, which I attribute to a shift in mindset. I’m… Read more »
Went down to the local bar couple of months back . there wre six men and the married redhead bartender. This new guy came in we got to talking and he asks what do you guys do for excitement around here? I told him hunt and fuck. He says so what do you hunt? I said something to fuck.
OT:
I lol’d. It seems the redhead loudmouth chick has a soulmate.
@Anonymous Reader – alright, judge as you see fit, but the only compelling point I can see in your last comment directed my way is that you don’t like my writing style. Your prerogative on that. Nothing more to say wrt your most recent comments I guess. I am very interested in the man/woman normative intelligence thing though. You originally engaged on that point yesterday, but you still haven’t made yourself clear (though yesterday you insinuated men on average are more intelligent without really saying so directly – so I’m still not that sure where you stand on this issue).… Read more »
@scribblerg – thanks for the comment – yep – I think I’m in the same boat as you (conflicted but trying to figure it out). Maybe everybody is! Maybe life wouldn’t be fun otherwise even (being conflicted sucks, but then again it doesn’t)!
The interesting looking fella in the video above, never saw that guy before. Is he for real or is it parody? Which team is he playing for? If that is the face of a male feminist (whatever that is), then feminists will soon be switching camp. Because honestly, if I was a feminist and a guy was presenting the feminist side like that, I would not be sure any more if he is on our side.
@hank holiday – great work dude. Not much to say except that you seem to be on the right track both mentally and in terms of taking action so keep it up. I didn’t realize you were a virgin – I’m not sure how old you are, but I had my first kiss at 23 (cute HB7-7.5 who friendzoned me but still basically took pity on me when I asked for a kiss) and lost my virginity at 24 (NB4, if that, but she basically picked me and made sure it happened). But it HAPPENED. So I totally get where… Read more »
Oh and @hank holiday (and all the other guys really) – it’s worth keeping in mind that people like us (in terms of going out actively, seducing girls etc, and just *taking action*) are serious outliers in a good way in the sexual marketplace. Look at these CDC stats on sexual partner numbers (I don’t know the source of the data so one needs to be skeptical but I am assuming that if they were anonymous surveys there is less incentive to lie, although it does seem a bit odd that men have so many more sexual partners than women… Read more »
@Anonymous Reader and @Forge the Sky – yeah, it’s been about 6 months-ish since I started spotting the small IOIs and reactions like the ones you’re describing and it’s a real mind-fuck in terms of “Have I changed? Was this going on my whole life and I never saw it?” And as HABD pointed out to me back on the CH comments when I first started posting about it..it’s a bit of both. It’s happening all around us anyway like a secret code language, but don’t underestimate the changes you’ve made in yourself to generate those responses either. As I… Read more »
“Barbie” joins the army.
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Imagine Barbies military funeral with all female pall bearers growning and straining under the weight of her casket?
(sorry; I’ll get my coat)
KryptoKate: Love the name! I’d take it as an homage if it weren’t more likely to be random 🙂 Either you are some sort of secret Kate society or you’re kryptonite to Supermen. Count me in! Re 45 Years: This is not a movie about soft dread. This is a movie about a woman who realizes her entire marriage (45 years!) has been a sham. She is disgusted (not turned on) by the knowledge that her husband has carried a torch for/been so deeply traumatized by the death of his former love that he couldn’t possibly have loved her in… Read more »
@ Kate Minter It doesn’t matter if the character Kate Mercer is disgusted by Geoff Mercer or turned on by the soft dread. It is still rooted in a woman’s imagination of emotional, physical and provisional loss. Her loss is his gain in soft dread. He is not going anywhere and it is passive on his part. But she is going everywhere in her head. “Looked at one way, the most significant character in 45 Years hasn’t a single line of dialogue, appears only in still photographs, and died a half-century before the events of the film. Her name is… Read more »
@Wildman Dude, I have to co-sign with @AR, Nobody here truly gives a shit about your fluffy, feel-good, nonsensical definition of egalitarianism because of the over-arching reason of it having no basis in reality. Genetic variability produces individuals that are unique and endowed with differing skill-sets. Natural selection guarantees that those with the most valuable skill-sets will survive and reproduce. The human brain is a difference engine. We’re hard-wired to compare, contrast, and categorize. That includes individual worth. IQ, personality, and aptitude tests are all designed to quantify the ‘value’ of an individual. Hierarchies and classes have been instituted in… Read more »
Natural selection guarantees that those with the most valuable skill-sets will survive and reproduce. A valuable behavioral skill-set, adaptation or mutation that aids an organism to meet environmental challenges. It’s important to remember that the value of a selected-for trait is only qualified by how well it serves an organism (person) in surviving or excelling in a given set of environmental challenges. This is why touchy-feely metaphysical ‘all are one’ concepts of egalitarianism will always fall flat; the most fundamentally maladapted individual in that set will always prove a liability to the group’s survival challenges. Ergo, all are not of… Read more »
[B]The movie:[/B] “This is not a movie about soft dread. This is a movie about a woman who realizes her entire marriage (45 years!) has been a sham. She is disgusted (not turned on) by the knowledge that her husband has carried a torch for/been so deeply traumatized by the death of his former love that he couldn’t possibly have loved her in the way she imagined he did. She took the red pill and was horrified to learn she’d unknowingly played second fiddle to someone else her whole life.” I can’t imagine how it must feel for that lady… Read more »
It’s important to keep in mind that 45 Years was written and directed by 2 men. Selling the Alpha Widow concept to women would never play to their indignation needs were the story about a man who’s wife held a 45 year torch for the Alpha Bad Boy who fucked her silly in her college days, but she was unable to tame him into loving her long term. It’s interesting when you compare the dramatic seriousness with which we’re supposed to consider the situtaion in 45 Years and then contrast it with the ‘Brazilian Helicopter Pilot’ the wife internally pines… Read more »
Wild Person @Anonymous Reader – alright, judge as you see fit, but the only compelling point I can see in your last comment directed my way is that you don’t like my writing style Your writing style is convoluted, confused and turgid, apparently reflecting your thinking. Too much “ought” and not much “is”. The red pill is praxology, it’s all about the “is”. Meandering walls of text about egalitarianism are warmed-over 1970’s “ought”, what good does that do anyone? I am very interested in the man/woman normative intelligence thing though Why? Ask yourself why that matters so much to you.… Read more »
Culum Strain, you know better than to believe any self-reported N from women in a public survey. Recall the research from a uni in Canada some years back: women filling out a survey reported one N, women fillling out a survey they were told would be confidential reported a higher N, and women filling out a survey while connected to a bogus “lie detector” reported an even higher N.
Women lie about their N, because they are programmed to do so by Nature or Evolution or God or (pick one). Men Do That Too, but so what?
Kate 3.0 This is not a movie about soft dread. This is a movie about a woman who realizes her entire marriage (45 years!) has been a sham. She is disgusted (not turned on) by the knowledge that her husband has carried a torch for/been so deeply traumatized by the death of his former love that he couldn’t possibly have loved her in the way she imagined he did. She took the red pill and was horrified to learn she’d unknowingly played second fiddle to someone else her whole life. I know of a real life case of this. Friend… Read more »
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01246/eagle-vs-rabbit-2_1246662i.jpg
Save the life of the rabbit, the eagle dies. Save all the rabbits, everything dies, including the rabbits.
And that’s the way it is, because that’s the way it works, the only way it can work. Life lives on life.
Hence my working definition of vegan: A person who loves animals and hates nature.
Note that veganism is now considered part of radical feminism.
Prepare to die.
@Jeremy
Hey, that’s the ginger that went on McInnes and pretty much got wrecked the entire time. Dude’s gonna die early of a stress-induced heart attack, I guarantee.
(Not really a spoiler alert. I don’t think so, I could be wrong)
I actually re-viewed the end of the movie 45 Years and Kate’s narrative is accurate. And yes Kate Mercer was horrified and it was not humorous.
Good thing for Geoff Mercer that smoke was in her eyes for the 45 years prior. Goeff won the inter-sexual battle and nobody won the war?
No wonder two Kates are indignant.
For those of you who think the manosphere is “winning” and pushing back in a meaningful way, just consider this video critiquing Laci Green’s presentation on brain science on MTV – her show is called Braless. The creator of this video didn’t even have to stretch to debunk what Laci was saying. The woman Laci is interviewing also has a show, on PBS. While we sit here using anonymous handles out of fear of social and economic destruction. They have platforms to spew nonsense while we cower in fear and whisper quietly. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDyGmKtB3TE&w=560&h=315%5D This is what’s being taught to… Read more »
@Anonymous Reader – yeah, I’d read about that but forgot till you reminded me.
I don’t really trust the numbers, but at the same time we need to anchor an estimate somewhere, beyond just anecdotal WAGs. It seems to me that if the CDC data was based on an anonymous survey (I hope), then it is at least a starting point, because without that, we don’t even have the basis for a discussion.
The result? We end up with a culture where this guy gets 2.3 million views over 8 years. He has real talent, hard won over decades of refining his guitar playing skills. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOdXN8Onzc&w=420&h=315%5D While Anna Kendrick bangs a few cups around and pretends she’s a working class girl and gets 265 million+ views. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmSbXsFE3l8&w=560&h=315%5D This is on a bottoms up platform where popularity is not that influenced by large scale promotional companies (youtube), although Vevo did produce it. We are so skewed now that literally anything which elevates women can fly. Warrior Princess’s are just one example. I… Read more »
Still reading Antifragile by Taleeb. Now that I’ve gotten used to his style it is hugely entertaining. Complementarity arises from the genes up, while egalitarianism must be imposed from the top down, by force eventually.
One of these is antifragile, and one is not.
@Chump No More: “Dude, I have to co-sign with @AR, Nobody here truly gives a shit about your fluffy, feel-good, nonsensical definition of egalitarianism because of the over-arching reason of it having no basis in reality. Genetic variability produces individuals that are unique and endowed with differing skill-sets. Natural selection guarantees that those with the most valuable skill-sets will survive and reproduce.” Man, I’m getting a little ticked by outright dismissal on something that clearly interfaces with redpill by some of you here. I expect alot better here. If you can’t or won’t see the obvious, then just shut up… Read more »
I don’t really trust the numbers, but at the same time we need to anchor an estimate somewhere, beyond just anecdotal WAGs.
Culum, I agree that even crummy data is better than no data. Men just need to bear in mind the rule of “3x” for a woman’s stated N vs. real N has basis in fact.
@Scribbler: Alan Holdsworth has talked about getting a job at McDonald’s, because he can’t get enough gigs to live on.
Only other guitar players appreciate what he does.
Just to push Scribb over the edge today,…
WIld Person, what do you think of Title IX in general? How about “preponderance of evidence” in rape cases at uni’s, or “yes means yes” laws?
What do you think should be done to ensure that exactly 50% of all engineering graduates are female, i.e to achieve true egalitarianism in engineering?
@Anonymous Reader – Alright – maybe you are misunderstanding me because you are incorrectly assuming I stand for a position that I don’t. I think Feminism theory is the worst bunk. Some of these feminism ladies back in the 1970’s got tenured positions at prominent American universities for spouting irrational bunk and passing it off as philosophy. There were a few articles at AVFM a while back on this (by a gay man pissed off at feminist misappropriation of gay causes, who traced his concerns with feminism back to the time it began to gain the blessing of the academic… Read more »
@Anonymous Reader – yes, agreed. Personally I think more than outright lies (although there are those too), the devil is in the details with girls’ N-counts. Like for eg, my long-term ex-gf volunteered to me (a few months into the relationship) that her N-count was 2. This was a mid-30s woman, who had one long relationship through college and grad school , then a couple more shorter LTRs till her mid thirties (ie, before me). Call it 8-10 years of being single and partying hard and dating lots of guys (by her own admission). She volunteered to me her N-count… Read more »
Scribblerg, what does that all mean?
P.T. Barnum was right.
Culum
But why would she create this elaborate charade of rationalization (not lying mind you)?
Because of hidden estrus, sexual dimorphism and the relative cost of eggs vs. sperm.
The Female Imperative made her do it…
“The ‘worth’ is a qualitative and subjective equation. Complementarity and interdependence among social animals has always been a survival adaptation within humans.”
@Rollo My thoughts exactly. You say it better. 🙂
@Wild Man: ” – I really don’t know what that untold story is –”
You’ll find it in the 20’s and 30’s.
@Rollo – “Egalitarian / Equalist social schema only lead to homogeny, stagnation and the extinction of a species in a changing environment.” You continue to conflate the egalitarian with equalism. Since the definition I have been putting forward for the egalitarian is actually based upon the psychic underpinnings of the mindset, as was selected for (as I have already explained way back in the commenting here – probably well before Christmas 2015), my definition carries more weight than whatever conflation you seem to be purporting for the definition (which actually seems to be the PC conflation – and if that… Read more »
Trust? lol. The “real” egalitarian mindset is Tribe X destroys Tribe Y. Rapes all their women, enslaves them, war bride/Stockholm syndrome takes over, women fall in love with their rapists and slowly integrate into the new tribe. I doubt that women were ever much more than currency or property for a few hundred thousand years.
@Wild Man: ” . . .the “real” egalitarian mindset is obviously based on . . .”
. . . metaphysics, not physics. It is a purely philosophical extension of kinship bonding.
And even kin can think of a member as a worthless shit who is about to die in a “tragic accident” for the benefit of everyone.