The Warrior Princess

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During last week’s Red Pill Monthly discussion I was presented with the question as to whether I agreed with women’s mandatory military conscription and my take on women serving in combat roles in the military. You can listen to my take on the livecast, but since I’d already had this post in the works I’ll detail it a bit more here.

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The “Warrior Princess” myth

In making the 300: Rise of an Empire they realized they had a problem, the 300 were all men.

So now in the next movie we have Eva Green as a killing machine admiral of the Persian fleet. Wait, that’s not enough! Let’s end the movie with Lena Headey being a killing machine too. Just to make the warrior princess quota.

I happened to be listening to a feature interview on NPR on a long drive home about a week ago. The interview was of a semi-famous actress-turned-writer-turned-director who’s known for her feminist slant on storytelling and forwarding the narrative of the Feminine Imperative equalism.

So as not to focus too much on the individual and more on the messaging, I’ll just fast forward to a part of the conversation I thought was most salient:

“There was a part of the film (she’s producing/directing) where (SIW®, Warrior Princess cliché) gets into a fight with the ‘bad guy’ and the guys on the set thought that her reactions were unrealistic and no woman would do what she was for the reasons she was doing it. But the women on the set were like ‘Oh totally, I’d do that, hell I’d do worse if I was in that situation’.”

“I told the guys on set that if they really want to see gender equality they needed to embrace all sides of women. They needed to let go of all these preconceptions that women are nurturing or empathetic, and accept that we can be just as violent or hostile as men when we’re pushed this hard.”

I got to thinking about this part of the interview and I got an insight into the belief system of a woman ego-invested in the egalitarian / equalist narrative that had been taught to her since her formative years.

For women so saturated in equalism there’s a kind of convenient duplicity that expects a safe environment in which they can comfortably, and without risk of injury, play out the fantasy of not just being ‘as tough’, but tougher than men.

Nowhere is this safe fantasy more repeated than in the stories that the men and women of the equalist mindset construct for themselves with the expectation of loving mass consumption. I covered this from one angle in Storytelling and I focused primarily on the unbelievability of that narrative, but I didn’t really get into why that narrative is so appealing to that set.

As I mention there, in the world of ideas and possibilities, where all conditions and events are in the control of the storyteller, and all outcomes are scripted by the individual, what comes out in playing God is a revealing of the mindset (and the zeitgeist that created it) of the one in control of telling that story.

Fempowerment

When I wrote The Medium is the Message I primarily focused on observing women’s behaviors as the primary motivator of what their true ‘headspace’ is. However, it’s also important to consider this principle on a macro scale of societal influence. The influence women wish to exert on our collective social order is evidenced in the behavior of their storytelling and the storytelling of their proxies (i.e. men who willingly foment their message and fantasies).

White Knights and sympathetic Betas attuned by a lifetime of Blue Pill conditioning are easy foils in selling out their masculine interests if it means their identifying with the superiority fantasies of women is in someway intrinsically rewarding to them (i.e. potential sexual access with women).

But what are the fantasies women imagine themselves living out in their own storytelling? Since the rise of women’s Hypergamy as the societal priority this has been the convenience of female empowerment and the fantasy that it can be balanced with women intrinsic needs and drives as a human female.

The problem with equalism (as opposed to evolved intergender complementarity) is that it reliably creates piss poor men and women. Taken to its extreme, the ideal state of equalism is androgyny – and that’s a best case scenario. At worst, the concept that gender is a relative mental/social construct creates individuals who arbitrarily define their gender identity based on the opinions of others, or languish in a gender identity purgatory of confusion.

The greatest danger the ideology of an all-are-the-same egalitarianism poses to an individual is the belief that men and women can be fully self-contained and self-fulfilled entities mutually exclusive of each other. From the Warrior Princess perspective this equalist ideal of a ‘perfected’ woman is one in which the best aspects of the masculine and the feminine are represented in one female person.

Ignoring all realities to the contrary, this super woman, this Strong Independent Woman® archetype, is not a ‘woman’ at all. She’s an amorphous being that combines the strength and independence of conventional masculinity with the ‘womanness’ that makes those traits acceptable in a society that would otherwise ridicule a man for displaying them as emblematic of maleness.

In a male embodiment, this autonomous self-sufficient being is a laughable parody; an exaggerated cliché of all the ego insecurities we popularly believe men are predisposed to. But make this strong, independent being female and all the ridiculousness transforms into pride and inspiration. In such a pretext even women’s weaknesses and insecurities (the very traits that would make a man less of a man) become a source of that idealized strength – as a woman.

The truth of course is that this egalitarian ideal is unrealistic and at odds with the reality that women and men have both strengths and weaknesses for which the other is (should be) the complement to. No man is an island, but the Strong Independent Woman® is an entity apart.

False Pride, Real Danger

Now I say that this equalist ideal is a danger to women on whole, but collectively that ideal is a greater danger on a societal level. The reason being is that women have expectations from men while simultaneously believing they are functional equals in all ways to men. In the fantasy of storytelling, and the ubiquitous control it allows the creator, danger, outcome and conditions become mitigated for the sake of the story. The real danger comes when those stories become the template on which women (and men) will expect reality to follow.

Dalrock summed this up perfectly for me in a comment I’ve returned to for years:

These women don’t just want to build a better beta, they want to tame the alpha. In fact, I think the former is just another way they are trying to approach the latter. They want to take an inherently unsafe activity and make it safe. They want to submit to a man without having to submit; they want a man who can tame their feral self. They want him to trip their danger signals. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.

They wan’t this all to happen without giving up their freedom; they want to play this out in the context of serial monogamy, so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all of the hallmarks of very dangerous men, and they want a promise that this will always end well.

They want to know that this will be safe, without it losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They are telling men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them safely feeling unsafe.

One more thing. As I mentioned above they don’t want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they want roller coasters to spring up randomly in the same exact circumstances where the real danger they mimic would appear. They want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control the next. They want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And all they ask is your guarantee that all of this will be safe.

Even within the social parameters of what passes for egalitarianism today, there is still a want and expectation on the part of men to make the stories and fantasies of women’s male-equal strengths safe for them in a real context. A prime illustration of this can be found in the language of the women in the video I linked in The War Brides of Europe post.

Whether the show was contrived or not, there’s a fraying of ends going on in these women psyches. The inherently unsafe fantasies of women’s self-perceptions of male-equal strength are being contested by the reality of their situation. The men who were supposed to make the world safe for women’s indulgences of male strength fantasies are proving to be unreliable in affording them that security.

The roller coaster is suddenly real and the prospect of injury and death are real as well. On some level of consciousness they understand that their equalist’s notions of male-equal strength are in no way sufficient for survival in a real test. They are understandably nervous, but nervous in a way that belies the disillusionment of ego-investments they’ve based their lives around.

Women have relied so much on the behind-the-scenes security of men making the world safe for them that they begin to believe they are men’s functional equals. And not only functional equals, but more perfected, autonomously independent, beings that should be a match for the harsh realities their storytellers told them they ought to be.

In fact so dependent on this imagining are women that they expect the simulations of battle to accommodate their lack of capacity to handle the reality that they’ll lobby to alter the qualification necessary to engage with that reality. Thus, the physical requirements for combat suitability are reduced to a degree where women can feel like a success and maintain the storyteller’s archetype of themselves, thus sustaining their ego’s investment in it.

The problem then becomes one where men not only become responsible for women’s security as well as their own security, but also the maintenance of their feminine-primary self-image as a strong, independent, individual capable of achieving an equal measure among men while the real-world requirements mean life or death for them both.

The fantasy of female empowerment is not just the social expectation of men, but it is also the life-threatening liability of men who don’t (or can’t) perform it for them. Men literally risk their lives to maintain women’s equalist fantasy of independent strength apart from, and above that of men.

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hoellenhund2
10 years ago

This is a country that was run by a guy that kidnapped a well-known Japanese director to make his fanfic for him. It was the kind of shit a country run by a 14 year old girl would do. Certifiably insane.

Not to nitpick, but he was South Korean, not Japanese. On the other hand, it’s not like it was a risky decision. What would the South do about it? How would they retaliate? It wasn’t even out of the line, considering that the two Koreas didn’t even sign a ceasefire after the war.

Liz
Liz
10 years ago

“There is no such thing as a historical technology that has made war “smaller”. So why should we just accept that, “new technologies,” will make all future wars smaller and asymmetric? I think if anything, we should expect technology to continue to march towards more effective killing, as it always has. More effective killing methods mean that more “meat” (read: conscripted men) are necessary to overcome the effective methods of killing.” But technology HAS vastly impacted “scale” (note I was not the first to use the word “small”, my choice of words would be different…because while the entities that gain… Read more »

hoellenhund2
10 years ago

This weekend I had my girlfriend over and I forced her to watch Iben Thranholms video (featured here on TRM ) about the onslaught of the masculinity invasion from the Muslims where she laments the lack of masculinity in Europe. It was amazing the response from my girlfriend and the disassociation from reality. She was yelling at the TV screaming why everything Iben said was wrong. I kept telling her what would happen if men weren’t around to protect women and she just almost lost it saying how it’s against the law. She has no concept how fragile our society… Read more »

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

@agent p One reason I so enjoy competitive sailing is the “reality factor” of sailing and racing boats that are challenging, particularly offshore where there is no “EASY” button, there is no walking off the field when you are done and it gets hard, there is only the wind, the water, the boat and the crew. Do you still do offshore races? I did not manage gather your age-range from previous comments. I still haven’t done an offshore, not even a multi-day near-shore. Even in-shore in technically challenging boats lots of girls give it a go and then drop it… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago

Which is rather important when you consider that the majority of the audience for films, video games etc. with the warrior princess trope are probably men. One male fantasy among many is the woman that is girly and feminine in appearance and body shape, but isn’t actually interested in girly stuff, and would rather discuss automatic weapons, martial arts, sports cars, military history etc. after draining your balls. She wears stylish clothes, but would rather go to the shooting range than the mall etc. Lara Croft is a typical example. Definitely. I find this trope is most common among the… Read more »

Dutchman
Dutchman
10 years ago

“It’s what I call a niche SMP and it’s readily exploited by girls who are otherwise outclassed in a larger SMP by girls who are far more sexy and attention holding. ”

I wonder if this is something that is done strictly for BB. I can’t imagine too many of these chicks expect to find Chad Thundercock this way.

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

It was amazing the response from my girlfriend and the disassociation from reality. She was yelling at the TV screaming why everything Iben said was wrong. I kept telling her what would happen if men weren’t around to protect women and she just almost lost it saying how it’s against the law. She has no concept how fragile our society is and how laws mean nothing to these men. Take that same woman, throw her in front of the TV when a story about (real/alleged) police brutality is on the screen, and I’ll bet she will scream at the TV… Read more »

Andy
Andy
10 years ago

“I wonder if this is something that is done strictly for BB. I can’t imagine too many of these chicks expect to find Chad Thundercock this way.”

Maybe contextual alphas. Have you ever seen that show The Guild? Pretty funny.

Andy
Andy
10 years ago

I used to live with this guy that was a World of Warcraft celebrity. lol. He was one of the healer characters. I’m not sure what they’re called. He pretty much worked, and played WOW. Every once in a while we would have to go into his room because we’d run out of spoons, and we’d find old moldy bowls of ramen like two months old. lol. You can’t make this shit up. Anyway, so he worked his way up and ended up on this Championship 3 vs. 3 WOW team that never lost. You would not believe it, but… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Andy

@Dutch, there’s a very interesting microcosm within geek subculture that unsurprisingly mirrors virtually every intergender dynamic in larger society. AF/BB Hypergamy is still the primary order, but the geek microcosm revolves around making women feel good about themselves to such an exaggerated degree that feminism and fempowerment are part of ‘Gaming’ women. It’s Beta Game on steroids with a lot of ego-invested LARPing that’s taken very seriously by the overwhelmingly Blue Pill guys who make up most of it. It’s really entertaining to see these guys try to outdo each other when a girl enters that nerd space with even… Read more »

Moses
Moses
10 years ago

There was a Dutch version of reality show “Survivor” that divided teams into men and women. The men got things running pretty well. They built shelter, created systems for getting supplies of food and water. The women were a disaster. They were unable to organize or satisfy basic needs for shelter and food. To keep the show viable the producers had to mix up the teams. That way men’s provisioning skills (and women’s incompetence in same) were equally distributed among the team. I think this is a great illustration of Rollo’s point. Men are responsible for sustaining and protecting women’s… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 years ago

Rollo It’s what I call a niche SMP and it’s readily exploited by girls who are otherwise outclassed in a larger SMP by girls who are far more sexy and attention holding. Again, nerd-space used to be a Male Space that was infiltrated and co-opted by the FI. Sheaaw, you just dragged up a memory from earlier in the century of a pudgy bespectacled nerd in a kilt walking with his even pudgier bespectacled girly in her mid-length dress. Great that they were happy with each other at that moment, but the LARP element was pretty heavy. That in turn… Read more »

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

“There was a Dutch version of reality show “Survivor” that divided teams into men and women. . . The women were a disaster. They were unable to organize or satisfy basic needs for shelter and food.”

SlatternsRing
SlatternsRing
10 years ago

I don’t see much equalist / egalitarian aspect to the warrior princess theme. It’s more about sanctioning female superiority. As is most feminist blather. Because they have grrrl power the standards used to keep weak and sickly men from being a liability to the mission and others’ lives do not apply.

Bachelorocles
Bachelorocles
10 years ago

@kfg

Yea — women will euthanize all those dangerous, criminal, violent alpha males and mate with nice guys. LOL!!!!

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

It’s worth cruising through that guy’s channel. He has no interest in “debating,” he’s a fighter. Bare knuckle:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTrecbx23AAYdmFHDkci0aQ/videos

agent p
agent p
10 years ago

@Jeremy I might do the Newport Bermuda race this year. I had to blow off a few invites recently due to my IRL job etc. Good chance I will be doing the Chicago Mackinac race again this also. Not that offshore but dangerous enough you can still easily get dead if you don’t have your shit wired right. I also have a few inshore regattas in various countries lined up for this year too in a variety of fleets. Generally this year I am focused on cruising with the family. Which is a case study in men facilitating a female… Read more »

agent p
agent p
10 years ago

Re Cosplay chicks and chicks in nerd culture,

It struck me that chicks hanging out there is simply a form of female buffering. In the context that they are there for the boys and not the actual culture at least.

ludiam0ndz
ludiam0ndz
10 years ago

Interesting post/discussion. This decision to open up all combat positions wasn’t done hastily, if that’s any consolation. I believe it’s close to a decade of research/analysis to gauge the impact on troop strength, cohesion, lethality etc and what they found was that they could achieve this female imperative with minimal disruption, time will tell I guess. I think the nature of war and the way it is being fought has changed to the point that you’d be able find someway to leverage female combat units productively. Between drones, automation, improvements in weapons and logistics technology, soldiers can do more.. with… Read more »

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

@agent p Generally this year I am focused on cruising with the family. Which is a case study in men facilitating a female reality. E.g. “you want to have a BBQ on a deserted island then swim naked in the lake ocean after that?”. Sure, I will get the boat, stock the boat, sail / motor / operate the boat for 150 NM to get to said island, I will ensure nobody dies of either adverse environmental conditions or boredom on the way there, while there, or on the way back irrespective of current or future environmental conditions on said… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 years ago

@Andy

“I used to live with this guy that was a World of Warcraft celebrity. …”

Evidence of the Alpha Triad at work, a dynamic, passionate and authentic guy – reaping the benefits.

” he would have chicks flying in from all over the country to come and fuck him.’

Andy
Andy
10 years ago

@sentient

lol, oh yeah. The dude was a Division 1 track athlete and ended up looking like Gollum after that game came out. I wouldn’t recommend the lifestyle.

Sentient
Sentient
10 years ago

@Andy

“The dude was a Division 1 track athlete and ended up looking like Gollum after that game came out. ” EVEN BETTER

I bet not many Div 1 track look alikes had women groupies flying in to fuck them though…

Cats are not dogs…

Is This Thing On?
Is This Thing On?
10 years ago

I keep reading these stories of all female combat units training to take on ISIS. They always get a million likes on facebook. When am I going to read a story about one of these units actually doing so?

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ ITTO ” I keep reading these stories of all female combat units training to take on ISIS. They always get a million likes on facebook. When am I going to read a story about one of these units actually doing so?” It’s a major feature of the sisterhood, that ” like ” shit. It would be pretty easy for us men to just ignore all of this Warrior Princess Nonsense if it didn’t invade the more crucial aspects of life… like combat. ZFG about an imaginary brigade of women going after ISIS. That shit’s laughable, even if that laughter… Read more »

KP
KP
10 years ago

Jeremy, “I’d love to do an offshore, but I just don’t have the resume, tbh, and I doubt the average crew would take a 35+ dude who hasn’t been sailing his whole life.” Of course they would! You just need to get your skill set and conditioning to the right levels, then start putting yourself into the right places to connect up with boats doing offshore racing. Age is far less a factor than you think. Someone I know who’s in his late 50’s just took his Aero 38 on Vic-Maui last year, and another couple I know who are… Read more »

KP
KP
10 years ago

ludiamondz,

This decision to open up all combat positions wasn’t done hastily, if that’s any consolation.

OF COURSE it’s no consolation, since the decision was done pretty much against the results of all the studies.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Rollo I may write a full post on this next. Please do. Being a former decently-known nerd among the pro-gaming crowd (was personal friends with a lot of the winners), I had run-ins a lot with the females in that community. They really were big time in to getting all the attention they’d never get in the real world, but I always found the dynamic of how other dudes acted for them repulsive despite my BP ways and beliefs. I would say within that market I was more… Sigma than Beta, just didn’t have an interest in most of the… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Sun Wukong

@Sun, you know my email address

agent p
agent p
10 years ago

@Jeremy, I was kind of kidding, I spread the load a bit. 1. Autopilot, 2. wife does stand watches when we do real distance 3. I do make the kids drive and do other jobs on the boat as well 4. wife = snacktician, if I am operating the boat she can operate the galley and the bar, which she does well. 5. I have countless miles and 40 years on the water under my belt, 6. My son is obsessed with the depth sounder. 7. Both kids are fully versed in reading charts and operating the gps, this year… Read more »

Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche
Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche
10 years ago

@Sun Wukong

“Being a former decently-known nerd”

Yep I believe it. You really really hated yourself for this one failure with a chick. To the point you called yourself a social retard. It’s downright cute to find out now what I’d suspected all along.

Can I call you Goku?

@Rollo

I actually planned on trying to use my new Red Pill Superpowers to try and infiltrate the geek subculture. I want to see if I can continue what began with Gamergate and the youtube whistle blowers. I’d appreciate that article just as much as ^Kakarot over there.

Is This Thing On?
Is This Thing On?
10 years ago

@Blaximus

That is kind of the point. Even if one of these all female units went against ISIS and got decimated, I wonder if we would even here about it. The narrative is so important to them.

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ ITTO

…lol. There will be video widely available.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Yollo Well, “far more socially comfortable than your average nerd” is still pretty much socially retarded in the rest of the world. I still have moments where I blow up a perfectly good set when the weird kid escapes out my mouth for a moment. A couple months before I started making a concerted effort to work on Game, I was at Oktoberfest. The crowds were huge and all the picnic tables were taken. Most people would just stand to eat, obviously afraid of approaching others. I would walk right up, sit down at a table with my beer and… Read more »

Bachelorocles
Bachelorocles
10 years ago

@kfg He’s right. Feminism has solidified into a religion. It has its tenets of faith like mass female victimhood, the wage gap (victimhood), rape culture (victimhood), gender as a social construct (victimhood), one in four women raped (victimhood), objectification (victimhood), street harassment (victimhood), women lack agency because of societal “messages” (victimhood), and the mother of all tenets, The Patriarchy (victimhood). It is a sin to disbelieve the tenets . It is blasphemous to question the tenets even through scientific, peer reviewed studies. Notice nearly all of the tenets pertain to female victimhood. Rollo touched on this in his great article… Read more »

ludiam0ndz
ludiam0ndz
10 years ago

@kp.. heres a decent article on some of the science that informed the decision making.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/07/feature-us-moves-allow-women-combat-researchers-help-set-bar

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

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They call her a “bombshell” – she’s a landwhale, I bet SunWuKong has met her at one of the bars he hangs out at. If she’s a bombshell, she’s a “MOABShell”.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@scribblerg

I would call that about average size most places around here. Sad part is, unlike most of them she looks like she would be reasonably good looking with a healthy diet and an exercise routine. Damn shame.

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

Lol scribbler,

Truth? I’d bang the bottom out of her. She’s pretty for a bigger gal

http://besttimepass.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Ashley-Graham.jpg

… imo, that is.

But, I’m going on 55, so there’s that.

I don’t like that the media is trying to make her out to be something that everyone is supposed to think is wonderful. Different strokes, man,

Mad Kalak
Mad Kalak
10 years ago

You know, the Persian warrior queen was based on real life. Google: Artemisia of Caria. There have been some women, like Molly Pitcher, who have been warriors. It’s rare, but it does happen. Modern combat infantry is no place for a female, true, and if we don’t lower the standards less than 1% of all women will ever become infantry. And as an aside, I find it amusing all the sudden calls to end the draft from conservatives. But war in most places is all ballistics and computers and “in the rear with the gear” logistics. A woman can fly… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Newly – I ain’t frontin’, I’m for real. I don’t tolerate racists and bigots, anywhere, anytime. Let me tell you how i was raised – I never heard the word “nigger” ever used in my household. Not once. There was no bigotry. Perhaps my family was rarer than I thought, I don’t know. But I was raised to be intolerant of racism and bigotry. Don’t get me wrong, I love ethnic and racial humor. I can enjoy all those kind of jokes. But I don’t use the word nigger – this is probably one of the few times in my… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

Fun fact: my friends and I call fat people biggers.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Blax:

Ew. No. Just no. I get (and have gotten) plenty of potentially cute girls that fat who are interested in me. Done it before, can’t do it again. Ugh.

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ Sun:

Yeah, I know how you feel.

I mean, I’m not going here…

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/redd_skull/fatchick.jpg

But I will go here with a measure of quickness…

http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/2015/02/05/923/n/1922398/98a5653f65c02f13_10838725_1558571671046627_1799180402_ntSECzr.xxxlarge/i/Pictures-Plus-Size-Model-Ashley-Graham.jpg

But I’m 220 lbs myself so she’s just a full handful. If I can still throw a chick over my shoulder without dislocating it, and she’s pretty and still has curves, it’s game on. Lol.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Blaximus I also think first chick I did manage to date in high school kinda set a lot of my preferences for me. She was a black chick all of 4’11” that weighed maybe 90lbs soaking wet but had the typical black chick ass and tit proportions on a cheer leader athletic body. Incredibly cute face. Amazing singing voice. Constantly white and hispanic dudes coming up saying “Dude, I normally don’t notice black chicks, but Goddamn!” I would honestly call her a solid 9 in my book. I’ve always preferred little petite things like that. Side note: it’s a damn… Read more »

redlight
redlight
10 years ago

@Mad Kalak You know, the Persian warrior queen was based on real life. Google: Artemisia of Caria. There have been some women, like Molly Pitcher, who have been warriors. It’s rare, but it does happen. Do you understand the difference between the movie and semi-historical versions? In the Movie, Artemisia sees her parents raped/killed, and then she is captured and kept as a cum dumpster. At some point she is dumped, and some stranger finds her close to death, takes her in, and for some unknown reason trains her as a warrior. She becomes such a great warrior that the… Read more »

ludiam0ndz
ludiam0ndz
10 years ago

@blaximus

Not mad at you for Ashley, not at all, I will shmang her silly hehehe, I’d even call her a bombshell, lol.

I’d still encourage her to stay thick fit.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago

Ugh, you guys are killing me with this shit. One day I’m gonna post a few of the profile pics of the girls I hire for promos and you’ll begin to understand why I get nauseous when you post obese women in my threads.

newlyaloof
10 years ago

@Scribble, I respect your intent but not your tactics. And there’s a fine line between intentional support for black folks and patronizing them. They’re perfectly capable of voicing their own outrage. I want to move on from this because as I said I respect your knowledge and field reports, but before I do, let’s just come right out and ask the tough yes or no question:

Q: Is Rollo a racist toward black people?
Enough of the “he seems” or “by implication” or “I get the impression.” Throw down your card either way, and then let’s move on.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago

@red light, War Brides gonna War Bride.

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

@redlight

lol.. not only was she a turncoat, but both sides forgave her for it. Stories like that just make me ashamed to be the same species.

newlyaloof
10 years ago

@Rollo, and that’s the last thing I’m going to bring up about this thing with Scribb. Sorry to feel the urge to do all this stuff, man.

KL
KL
10 years ago

@Rollo. Thanks, I’ve read your books and thought the links were great illustrations. High SMV men with Ph.D.’s are expected to patiently and dutifully subsidize uptight women in their sixties!

“I’m 67, … suddenly single 13 years ago … .ANY woman, by the majority of men, … is considered uptight if they don’t spread. … Even men with PhD’s will give the signal: UPTIGHT.”

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/wwwartparasitescom/the_ugly_side_of_being_a_single_attractive_and_available_heterosexual_woman/#comment-2418651979
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/wwwartparasitescom/the_ugly_side_of_being_a_single_attractive_and_available_heterosexual_woman/#comment-2418664195

Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche
Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche
10 years ago

@Rollo

Got it, anything her bitch friends would make fun of, ABUSE. Got it.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Rollo

Shit, bro. I just call sights like that “Friday Night”.

newlyaloof
10 years ago

Let’s have an army full of front line warrior princesses accompanied by an army of auxilliary support personnel made of stay-at-home-beta-dads. We’ll be unstoppable and the SAHD’s can raise their cuck’d children in the field barracks.

And any army that’s foolish enough to actually invade American will discover another army of millions of inner city female BT-1000s that absolutely will not stop trying to kill them until they are dead. Sista’s know how to throw down. lol.

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

Well, why stop there, a fielded front line of BT-1000s would be scary enough, fully armed and filthy their flying weave particles will act as an excellent smokescreen for their spawn to bring up the rear for cheap-shots on the enemy while they’re down.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago

Now, you can argue, like an MRA, that it’s fundamentally unfair that women, in war, will get the mostly safe jobs. I’ve heard/read on Paul Elam on more than one occasion stamps his feet that women need to be legally bound to register for the draft as part of his very evident dedication to egalitarian equality. From his equalist distorted perspective I understand why this would make sense – if men must burden themselves with risking their lives by legally mandating they register for the draft at the cost of losing certain rights women are by default entitled to without… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ Sun: ” I’ve always preferred little petite things like that. Side note: it’s a damn shame but she eventually let herself bloat up to like 170 and started covering herself in tattoos after I left. Had like 3 different kids from 3 different daddies too.” I was ” imprinted ” for a long time too. My first sexual experience came from a 5′ 2″ Philipino/Puerto Rican hybrid with a body and face that still invades my dreams sometimes, 41 years after the deed was done. She’s a crackhead today. That shit should be a felony, destroying all that sexy.… Read more »

Just Saying
Just Saying
10 years ago

they needed to embrace all sides of women.

I figure that having sex in missionary – covers the front, doggie has the back, and having her suck me off covers any part that I missed – so I guess I’m good from her perspective… And I’m sure that one of the others will cover any “side” that I missed…. Those are really the only “sides” that interest me.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago

All of those women are clinically morbidly obese. All are well above 30% body fat.

newlyaloof
10 years ago

@Jeremy, I was being serious. Combine the hardened inner city peeps with the rough and rugged country folk, and a foreign army will have their hands full.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Jeremy

BT-1000s

MFW when I googled that term:

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newlyaloof
10 years ago

Probably why an invasion hasn’t happened yet. If it did, our “regular army” would probably be used against us to make sure we weren’t inappropriately killing our enemies under some Geneva convention rules.

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

@Bachelorocles: “Feminism has solidified into a religion. It has its tenets of faith . . .”

. . . and it even has a god and a devil: their names are History and Patriarchy.

“When you get the time, check out this debate between Vilar and a feminist.”

Been there, done that. Read the book. Not soon enough to avoid the big mistake though.

@Sun: “Shit, bro. I just call sights like that “Friday Night”.”

newlyaloof
10 years ago

@Just saying: Field report soldier! You’ve been MIA for ages. Thought you died soldier!

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 years ago

Huge irony in the video from 1975 featuring feminist Alice Schwarzer, where she argues at about 33 minutes in that mandatory military service for men (15 months) is equitable because women are pregnant for nine months, and if women don’t have babies then the nation won’t exist. Well, Germany became ever more feminist along Schwarzer’s lines, and now is in population decline….which is the excuse for importing tens of thousands of military-aged (18 – 25) Moslems from the middle east and the Balkans. (Yeah, they’re not all Syrians by a long shot.) Schwarzer got what she wanted. I wonder how… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
10 years ago

@Blaximus

That shit should be a felony, destroying all that sexy.

Agreed, but the first step would be to stop incentivizing it.

thwack
thwack
10 years ago

Mad Kalak

But war in most places is all ballistics and computers and “in the rear with the gear” logistics. A woman can fly a helicopter, or pilot a drone, or make sure everyone gets paid on time, as well as a man. Bone density, upper body strength, etc. etc. these don’t matter in most modern warfare
————————————————————————————–

That may be how wars are won; but if you wanna keep the peace you still need those mofos willin to kick in doors and slam a niggas head thru a plate glass window.

same as it ever was

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
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scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Blax – Look closely at the two pictures – they have very different dimensions. Perhaps Ashley was thinner in the shot you posted, or it was photo-shopped. But look at the SI cover – look at the size of her thighs and torso and hips. Do you find her attractive in that shot?

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Newly – I said what I had to say to Rollo, he doesn’t need you to rep for him. I said what I had to say to you as well. I’m happy to move on.

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Rollo – This is the the Tom Leykis gag…

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contrarian
contrarian
10 years ago

I’m setting up a consultacy. I will provide a service whereby I will mainsplain all the toxic, deluded idiocy in our culture so that foreign business people can navigate all the bombs in their path-largely unscathed. When they ask me how this came to pass I will wip out my book entitled ‘A Normal Personz Guide to an Idiot Culture or How what was great is now Evil’. Book sales and corporate.seminars will fund my new life in Thailan where I will convert to Islam, marry 4 wives, have children-4 per wife-and eat bbq.and pray for.my dozens of.grandchildren who I.will… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ scribblerg Lol, my brother!!!! I like hips. Thighs. Granted, babygirl is pushing maximum density, but I’ve banged chicks her size before and it was plenty fun. I saw her on tv the other day, and she didn’t look all that huge imo. But bend her over and that ass spreads. Rollo is getting sick to his stomach. : ) So no more pic posting of her from me. But she is cute. Obese, schmobese. Lol. But I’m aware that a lot of guys do not subscribe to the ” thick ” mode of chickness. Understood. I’m not a particularly… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@All – Speaking of field reports, what happened to that guy Camaro? He was the guy with the BPD wife who was playing with knives and had hit him etc? He went ghost after that weekend, do you think she killed him?

@Camaro – Check in if you are alive, buddy.

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Sun – “Biggers” – now that’s funny. I’m spoiled, I live near a college town where hot, tight, petite poon abounds. @Blax – Big women. I’m 5’8″ and while my shoulders are getting bigger, that’s probably why I don’t like big women and prefer smaller ones. You didn’t answer the question though – I agree, in the pic you posted, she seems a lot less porcine than in the cover shot. Are you good to go in either case? I can’t imagine they put her worst angle on the cover of SI, right? She looks like Jaba the Hut’s little… Read more »

Benny Hill
Benny Hill
10 years ago

@hoellenhund2

“Real-life warrior women indeed tend to look something like this:
http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/775-confirmed-kills-one-picture-1945/
Yeah, not exactly material for Sports Illustrated.”

**********
What that photo’s caption failed to mention is those Russian snipers apparently had killer smiles, because once a German saw one of those gals, he immediately committed harakiri rather than succumb to their homeliness.

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

@newlyaloof

I wasn’t joking either. I’ve seen the looney-toons-fight re-enactments from on the other side of the freeway.

Jeremy
Jeremy
10 years ago

@Rollo Tomassi

…but in a complementary perspective women should be relegated to lesser duties while conscripted men should be entitled to rights and benefits unavailable to women or unfit men.

I believe historically the west has had systems not too far off from this before, minus the rights for fit, and/or conscripted men. Western women became politically organized against this arrangement because they felt they lacked control over the unfit men and religious leaders, knowing who keeps asses in the pews, felt the need to accommodate the needs of these women.

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ scribbler: Lol. The answer is ” yup “. I’m good either way. I mean, I like smaller chicks just fine, but I really, really like women period. Actually, the pic of her in the black looks a lot like my wife. If my wife stopped working out and gained 20-30 pounds, she’d look like Ashley a lot. Maybe that has a lot to do with my attraction. But the wife just turned 47. Now she started weight training. I gotta get my lift game up a.s.a.p. Smaller, skinny chicks are great, but I’m more open. I had a coworker… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Blax – It’s official, you’re fucked up…Lol. But seriously, you made a very interesting comment upthread which may explain why you are Red Pill naturally in some ways. That Phillipina/PR chick who destroyed you and then deciding to just have sex, and not get involved with women after that and discovering you like variety. It seems to me that this was your awakening and from experience you put women into proper perspective. They were in your frame, not you in their’s.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 years ago

…German…committed harakiri…

What?

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ scribblerg ;

Hmmm…. that may very well be the case. That little minx broke my heart into a million pieces. My head was totally fucked up.

But she gave me sex on demand for 3 whole years. Any time, any place. I wasn’t ready to give that up.

But yes, I’m fucked up. But there’s always hope that I can change!!!! Who know, by the time I’m 70….blah, blah, blahhh….

Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche
Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche
10 years ago

The Problem I have with these Fat-Asses, aside from them never being on the more slender end of fat when I’m in the mood, is that they’re shooting lower. I mean MUCH lower, and I can’t help but think it’s because they know the thirsty fuck who’d raise her Alpha Widow kids would take her fat and full of Herpes sores.

@Blax

I know you’re an old fuck, but you don’t want HerpaDerp, do you?

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@ Yollo:

Ummmm… No, I don’t want herpes.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/58622572.jpg

Johnycomelately
10 years ago

The equalist mantra needs to be maintained to create the illusion that women are doin it on their own. Women will always seek advantageous niche roles in an economic ecology and men will always do the heavier lifting. The thing that has changed is that the economic ecology based on the physical landscape (agriculture, mining, production etc.) has effectively been replaced by mechanization and information technologies. The new economic ecology is based on the social infrastructure, in raw numbers employment in the physical economy is very small today. In prior economic ecologies men were surrogates for female survival, they were… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
10 years ago

“All of those women are clinically morbidly obese.” guys with an abundance worldview in terms of women, assets, resources etc prefer very skinny women. they have enough in all aspects of life to handle a hot size 0. guys with a scarcity mentality prefer obese women. they are scared of losing what little they have so they find comfort in a big fat woman. that’s why the trailer trash skinny dudes always have huge gfs. I’m on college campus five days a week. girls are freaking huge these days. so nasty. they all need calorie restriction but what they’ll do… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

” guys with an abundance worldview in terms of women, assets, resources etc prefer very skinny women. they have enough in all aspects of life to handle a hot size 0. guys with a scarcity mentality prefer obese women. they are scared of losing what little they have so they find comfort in a big fat woman.” Men who have a strong sense of individuality don’t subscribe to what other men like/want. Some men have 0 interest in a size 0. If you like that, more power to you. I got your back 100% Women have herd mentalities. Men do… Read more »

D. Horrenbrand
10 years ago

Women will never be satiated or satisfied. It goes against their fragile nature- and yet, they don’t understand it at all!

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Johnny – Great insights. As for your last point, I can tell you that I see female bias for hiring and doing business with females all over the place in the business world I live in, tech. But remember, when this kind of thing happens, productivity suffers. Also, much of social infrastructure being created is unsustainable. All the admin jobs and advisors and consultants in govt, education and health care etc, this is going to come crashing down sooner rather than later. Our businesses will also be outrun by competitors globally who don’t behave this way. The marketplace will eventually… Read more »

Benny Hill
Benny Hill
10 years ago

@Mazrim

Re: Heineken commercial

Hate that commercial. I interpret it as the women saying they need a male who will man-up by allowing himself to be their beta-bitch, because ‘real men’ serve women. The irony is that they’re figuratively saying they need a man to take care of them (drive them home), and that they’re unable to be responsible for themselves. Apparently Heineken doesn’t care that the ad it’s actually offensive to both men and women.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 years ago

I was at lunch today and some ginormous people came in. Color of their skin is totally irrelevant, they were too big to sit in the restaurant booths. One ordered a diet soda… There was some meat on the bone, there, I’m tellin’ y’all. Type II diabetes used to be called “adult onset”, until way too many teenagers began to develop it. Now it’s pretty much accepted as a price of civilization in some places .. it “just happens”. A long term friend of mind died a few years back of the effects of Type II diabetes, the last few… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
10 years ago

Hey I had a quizzmical thought – people still say (if they like to retread 1960’s lingo for the cools) – “Hey – I be workin for the man”, or “Hey – the man be keeping me down”. But nobody say ‘Hey – I’m be workin for the womanz”, or “the womanz is keeping me down”. Now why would that be? Riddle me this. Is it?: – it really is the fucking patriarchy man! or – we all going to be saying “the womanz be keeping me down, man” soon enough (like once everybody be hearin Roosh be callin a… Read more »

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

“…probably kfg has the relevant reference handier than I do.”

My favorite is: If you tune the string too loose, it will not sound. If you tune the string to tight, it will snap.

The Buddha, not a Greek.

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

@Wild Man: “– the woman so good at being the man that she got the man believin he be the man when he her bitch – man!”

Garden of Eden was very nice,
Adam never work in paradise.
Eve meet snake.
Paradise gone.
She make Adam work from dat day on.

Not me, but da people dey say,
da men, dey leading da women astray,
but I say, dat da women of today,
smarter dan da man in every way.

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

In a related manner, I often watch the behaviour of cats and wonder just who it is that has really domesticated whom:

http://www.boop.org/jan/justso/cat.htm

Wild Man
Wild Man
10 years ago

@kfg – yah….. that is a perspective man. Nice lyrics too…. is that a Shaggy tune?

Hey – but saying it this way is just a cop out I suppose. Blame it on the women! Those lovely lovely duplicitious cunts that we love to fuck! May as well blame it on muh dick. Same difference. Maybe the blame game is stuooopeeeid. All women are probably pros in one form or another (quid pro quo style). Might as trade dopamine rush for dopamine rush. That not so stupid.

Benny Hill
Benny Hill
10 years ago

@ludiam0ndz “Interesting post/discussion. This decision to open up all combat positions wasn’t done hastily, if that’s any consolation. I believe it’s close to a decade of research/analysis to gauge the impact on troop strength, cohesion, lethality etc and what they found was that they could achieve this female imperative with minimal disruption, time will tell I guess.” ********** It wasn’t hastily done, yet over that possible decade, they increasingly made more concessions for women because they kept failing. Their continuing failure is part of the reason it has taken so long…so those pushing this issue could lower the standards in… Read more »

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