The Golden Ticket

Imagine, if you will, that you buy a lottery ticket and you win. After taxes the payoff is $2 million. Not an exorbitant amount by today’s standards, but still quite a lot of money for the average paycheck to paycheck person. For some it may be what could be described as Fuck You Money, easily enough for most people to retire on very comfortably.

How would this newfound fortune change your life? How would it change your family and your friend’s dealing with you? Would they be happy for you? Maybe jealous? Would you be able to manage the changes in your daily routine? If you were accustomed to one lifestyle and then switched to a more affluent lifestyle would it be a good change? Or would you become someone else?

Now lets say you could possibly win $100 million if you made an almost certain bet. There were still some risks involved, but nothing that would threaten your life in the short term. How would winning this kind of money reflect on your daily routine? Would it be different than your winning $2 million? Money would cease to be an object for you for the rest of your life and likely the lives of your children, maybe even grandchildren and all you really had to do was make a smart bet that you believed would pay off.

What if you only won $1 million or $500,000, but you were only making $36,000 a year and scraping by the best you could? Again, all you have to do is look for the best opportunity to make a short term sacrifice and the money would be yours. Would you compromise your ‘principles’ (assuming you have any) temporarily to change your life in the long term more significantly?

Imagine you had a Golden Ticket that had a potential to win you $70,000 per year or if you played things right it had the potential to earn you $10 million per year if you were wise enough to capitalize on it. How would that change your outlook on life?

What rationales would that prompt you to in order to reconcile that other people might not have the same potential for cashing in –without really earning it – that you do?

Here’s your Ticket

Okay, got that in your head now? Good. Now imagine that you’re given this Golden Ticket at the tender age of 12 years old. It’s handed to you and you’re told, “Keep this ticket with you forever. You can redeem it for more money while you’re young, but the longer you hold on to it the less it will be worth. Even still, it should be valuable for most of your life if you can manage to hold on to it.” And even after you’ve cashed the ticket in you can still retain it for a time, because some people have been able to trade one prize for a larger one by taking the ticket back and redeeming it for a better prize later.

Now you begin to believe that you deserve the biggest prize because, well, you’ve been deprived of things. You’re special; special enough to know you deserve the very best after having been deprived of these things as one of a long line of people who’ve also been deprived of things – the best things – or so they’ve told you.

You could always earn some money and get the things you and your people have never been able to reliably get, at least, again, that’s what they’ve told you. You have a lot of personal potential, you’re independent, you have a lot of respectable strengths, so you know you could always merit the things you deserve. But you still have this Golden Ticket in your hand, why wouldn’t you use it? You could earn some money, maybe a lot, but it will never be as reliable or as much as the money the Golden Ticket could net you – if you know just when to redeem it.

Stipulations

All that said, there are going to be a few stipulations to this lottery, but still, they’re not as steep when you compare them to having to actually earn a similar prize.

The first stipulation: You must stay physically fit. In fact, the better you look the better your potential prize could be. As you age this potential decays, but even still, you occasionally see some people cash out their ticket for great prizes despite their age. They just had to apply themselves more in the gym to get it.

The second stipulation: You must be agreeable, accommodating, even a bit flirty. You must put forward the impression that you are someone who genuinely deserves the best prize that the ticket might offer to a special person like you. You must give the perception that the experience of you deserves the highest potential prize imaginable.

The third stipulation: You must position yourself in social situations where the potential for the biggest payout for your ticket can be maximized. Sometimes, not always, but often these settings might make you uncomfortable, but hey, you wanted to make the most of the ticket, right? This stipulation really isn’t all that discomforting when you realize that once you have cashed in your ticket you’ll be the one deciding where you live and who you’ll choose to associate with anyway. At least that’s what the lottery organizers would have you believe.

There are a few more minor stipulations, but, for all of this, you still deserve the biggest prize that opportunity might bring your way. So, while the best thing would be for you to stay in shape and be ready for a big prize, the people playing the same lottery as you – most with the same potential – will tell you none of this really matters. They insist that you just being you is enough for you to win a big prize. Or it should be.

It’s almost as if they want you to believe that you can dismiss all the stipulations and still make out pretty good. In fact they praise you for going against the stipulations. They complain about how unfair these rules are and that for people as deprived as themselves, and for as long as they and their predecessors have been deprived, they should simply be given the highest, best and most secure forms of the prize – all irrespective of the very minimal stipulations as they are.

This is the Golden Ticket! How dare anyone place prerequisites on us to get the prizes we so thoroughly deserve. How dare anyone make us earn our birthright. But for all this discontent, the rules of the game still apply, and the people who embrace and master the stipulations largely seem to get the biggest and best prizes. And the ones complaining about the stipulations only seem to drag down the people with the same Golden Ticket, and their prizes are usually nothing compared to the people who take the stipulations to heart.

The Agreement

Finally, and maybe most importantly, there is one last detail of this lottery to consider. In order to keep the biggest and best prizes you have to sign a very loose and totally non-binding contract that only benefits you and ensures you will continue to be paid dividends should you decide to renege on the agreement and take your ticket back to use it again. The contract can be broken by you at any time, and even when you do you’ll still receive a substantial percentage of your original prize in monthly installments and usually for the rest of of your life.

Still, your signing this contract will limit your capacity to play this lottery in the future. If you see the potential for a better prize after you’ve signed the contract of limitations you’ll be less able to capitalize on it. However, the way that the contract is written it doesn’t necessarily exclude you from winning and even bigger prize should the opportunity arise. Your ticket reserves the right to be redeemed for other prizes if you make some wise bets.

So, at the end here, we get to the larger point of this metaphor; how would this ticket change the way you live your life? How would it influence your future decisions? How would the ticket affect your personal relationships with your best friends, some of whom have tickets themselves? How would the subconscious knowledge of the ticket alter your dealings with a husband, a wife, the children you may have or your immediate family?

Would the ticket define who you will become in life?

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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It’s what they can do under law.

The “law” is just an expression of who has the most power.

So trying to destroy ” equality “, throwing the baby out with the bathwater, will have unintended consequences.

It’s exactly those consequences “they” wish to avoid. Recursive to “law”… The battle is joined.

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Sometimes. “The Future Is Female” is a popular feminist slogan. It is not equalist.

True. But you know what purges are for…

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Ever hear of a ” slave revolt “???

The 2016 Trump campaign? yeah…

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Feminists are the foot soldiers of the Equalists… Nope. Exactly backwards. Because fewer and fewer feminists are equalists. What a slave thinks is irrelevant to its master. JBP talks a lot about the equal opportunity vs equality of outcomes. Blax is also mistaking equal opportunity for young men under the law vs. equality of outcomes for those young men. Feminism was originally equality of opportunity for women in the workforce. then equality of outcomes in the workforce, then, now, Feminine Supremacism and Sheryl Sandberg as a figurehead. And Tess Holliday sitting over there in the corner eating a cake, and… Read more »

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Please don’t do that.

I.didn’t way anything about opportunity because I wasn’t talking about opportunity. I specifically stated equal treatment under law. It’s an important point because it’s how people/men are controlled – based on treatment under law(s).

It’s not really about ” power ” because that power is an.illusion easily shattered if enough 1) understanding of the problems are recognized, and 2) if enough people can be rational and fairminded.

When fairnindedness is ridiculed, it’s predictive that we are heading towards a scenario where everyone will lose – either now, or in the future. History says so.

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It’s not really about ” power ” because that power is an.illusion easily shattered if enough 1) understanding of the problems are recognized, and 2) if enough people can be rational and fairminded.

Imagine… John Lennon smiles at you, but still wishes he had a (warm?) gun.

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Belief in a thing makes it powerful and real inside one’s head.

Re: Lennon, he should’ve gotten a carry permit. He could’ve attained one more.easily than I could in NYC. But from the description of how he was shot, seems like it wouldn’t have helped.

Game rule: protect ya neck.

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“Belief in a thing makes it powerful and real inside one’s head.”

Q.E.D.

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@SJF: The same sentence caught me in the same loop. I now think Rollo pulled a fast one: he advised (prescriptive!) men to look for what golden tickets they may have . . . perhaps tickets manufactured from what they’ve mined.

That is, looks/money/status are certainly tickets for men.

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“I now think Rollo pulled a fast one”

Q.E.D.

Perhaps a basis for his fourth book in fiction.

Excellent writing Rollo. Metaphor, abstractions, what’s not to like?

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Blax, sorry

I take my comment back. I wasn’t thinking clearly.

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No harm brother.

It’s understandable what with all of the noise/jbp talk about equality of outcomes and other stawman arguments being bandied about constantly in subterfuge.😁

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Nice, Rollo!

I was really tempted to answer “yes” to the question at the end. This post lent me some understanding and even empathy for those to whom the metaphor applies. Chilling.

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Off Topic:

Interesting essay from a psycho-analytical and psycho-dynamic aspect.

Adam Ayala at The Unplugged Male blog:

Describes in both Beta and Alpha males Why Men are Attracted to Borderline Personality Women

http://adamayala.org/why-men-are-attracted-to-borderline-personality-women/

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Whenever I see the popular feminist slogan “My body my choice” I think inside of me “Your Body ok …but my choice to pump and dump you and never look back”

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This post lent me some understanding and even empathy for those to whom the metaphor applies. Chilling.

Before going further down that particular rabbit trail, suggest that you read this:

https://therationalmale.com/2015/07/14/our-sisters-keeper/

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I get bored like once a year for a couple minutes. Now’s one of those minutes. My avatar picture is from when I was flail mowing a ten-week-old field of buckwheat that I had planted for “green manure” (and to give honeybees a menagerie ). Roundup ready sugar beets are to the left of the tractor. Deer fodder. We used to trade “field reports” re: Whitetail Deer Habitat. Lots and lots of field reports. So I got off my tractor, went and climbed into a red pine and took a snapshot with my Nikon D200. DEER hunting starts this weekend.… Read more »

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I am still amazed that no one in the manosphere speaks about this phenomenon: Skank whores and other sluts on the carousel who have failed to consolidate on that elusive male that, as her hypergamy dictates, she ought to lock in a long term commitment. They are consistently pump and dumped or rejected by those top men to the point that they have recognised the pattern and lost every hope, eventually turning really nihilistic and bitter towards other men who fall into the 80% of the Pareto principle. It has happened to me and other men several times and can’t… Read more »

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So what you are saying is that skank whores that are Alpha widows don’t want to associate with low SMV Betas? So what you are saying is that they are low self esteem girls that don’t want to give out their goods for free? They’d rather be with the guys that reject them. So what you are saying is that has never been discussed in the manosphere, right? So what you are saying is that in the inter-sexual marketplace, there are strategies? You are right. If the marketplace is a game? Where does that leave you? What are you going… Read more »

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” It has happened to me and other men several times and can’t be a coincidence. They are unnecessarily bitter, ironic or mean when rejecting a guy…you can sense it from miles away that she is deriving some pleasure from this. Like …”I am so proud that I destroyed your male ego now”.” Hmmmmm…… ” They are consistently pump and dumped or rejected by those top men to the point that they have recognised the pattern and lost every hope, eventually turning really nihilistic and bitter towards other men who fall into the 80% of the Pareto principle.” You certain… Read more »

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Waitaminute…. lemme think and find my solar powered calculator.

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“I am still amazed that no one in the manosphere speaks about this phenomenon:
Skank whores and other sluts on the carousel who have failed to consolidate on that elusive male that, as her hypergamy dictates, she ought to lock in a long term commitment. ”

This is literally 80% of thr Manosphere… 100% of autistic lonely men.

Look… If this isn’t for you, the whole “proof of performance” thing. Just slide quietly into that goodnight… Or get better.

But just stop the ranting.

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Damn it Sentient…. I was still getting my thoughts and numbers together and you took my summation.

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“…. lemme think and find my solar powered calculator.”

I’ve got my beef powered Pickett slide rules right here if you want to borrow one. You can chose between full size or the mini model they sent to the moon.

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“… If this isn’t for you, the whole “proof of performance” thing. Just slide quietly into that goodnight… Or get better.”

Lotta people walking around looking for the “Skip Boss Fight” button so they can be “winners.”

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Travel and met a wider range of people perhaps?

I have. The old ladies were bitter about men wanting younger women. Pretty common.

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@ Orson

Ever consider a move towards Irreverence?

It’s *a thing* when steeped in Competence and Confidence.

It is strength of conviction. Arrogant.

https://youtu.be/mrSNnHxj7mA

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You must really have a low sense of dignity as men! There is no “proof of performance” when you are told to get the fuck off by some very average in the HB scale low IQ bimbo ! It’s humiliating!

I am not saying they are all like this but lately it’s more frequent this type of aggressive ill-intentioned rejection.

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“It’s humiliating!”

If you think you’re below the level of a very average in the HB scale low IQ bimbo !

Otherwise what it is is funny.

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” You must really have a low sense of dignity as men! There is no “proof of performance” when you are told to get the fuck off by some very average in the HB scale low IQ bimbo ! It’s humiliating! ”

No frame of reference.

umm… I mean – No frame of reference!

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“You must really have a low sense of dignity as men!”

To put it in other terms, you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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I think the word dignity it’s pretty accurate! It’s more offending when impoliteness comes from a person you deem inferior than you! It’s like a squirrel beating the shit out of a lion!

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There is no “proof of performance” when you are told to get the fuck off by some very average in the HB scale low IQ bimbo !

Ok. Why are you approaching those women?

It’s humiliating!

Well, for a start I suggest you avoid such women in the future.
Also learn some Game, especially “calibration”.

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“It’s more offending when impoliteness comes from a person you deem inferior than you!”

If you lack dignity and take your opinion of yourself from others. What you are describing is called “butthurt.” Butthurt is never, ever dignified.

If you want male dignity, kill the beta butthurt. Then you can “Bitch, pleeeease” all you want.

But it’s more fun to laugh at the joke.

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“when you are told to get the fuck off by some very average in the HB scale low IQ bimbo ! It’s humiliating!

I am not saying they are all like this but lately it’s more frequent this type of aggressive ill-intentioned rejection.”

https://redpilltalk.com/w/High_quality_non-primitive

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Off topic, but kind of funny. On Mrs. Gamer’s phone I read a message from daughter Gamer, “Is Dad behaving himself?” XD I’m in that 10% jerk sweet spot. Oh, last Fri. night I was doing my usual routine at my fav. country bar. A 30ish girl asked me to dance. During the dance, she said that she had worked at the bar previously. Ah, she had seen me, but I didn’t remember her. During the dance, she followed Ok and I turned her a lot. After the dance, I told her that I wanted to meet her group. We… Read more »

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“It’s more offending when impoliteness comes from a person you deem inferior than you!”</I.

Please explain you strategy there, Orson.

https://youtu.be/R4apiZ4pOIo

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“Then she grabbed my hand and pulled me towards her group, which consisted of her bf and another male friend. We chatted a bit about where they could take dance lessons, then I left.”

“Funny, she didn’t mention her bf during the dance. Obviously wasn’t having ASD problems.”

…because she doesn’t view you as a sexual threat, mate. Just a silly old guy with above avg dance moves.

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Work on your calibration.

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High quality not primitive, huh.

Fucking retards don’t know how to act when talking about pussy. Struggle struggle struggle….bang! Got laid. Now talk miles of shit because, again, you managed to do something billions and billions and billions of men have done before you.

Next there will be reddits and shit about breathing.😁😁

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“Next there will be reddits and shit about breathing.”

Google “how to breathe”. 297,000,000 hits.

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Masculinity is hard. Masculinity is real. It’s there when a man acts justly with no reference to his feels. Masculinity is innate. Masculinity is by design. It has been intertwined within man from the mind of the divine. Masculinity is a fire, residing in the depths of man’s mold. The man who fails to feed it leaves a gaping void within his soul. Masculinity is rugged. Masculinity speaks words of truth. Feelings may get hurt, but men are compelled by nature to deliver swift rebukes. Masculinity isn’t easy; it requires discipline of self. To commit to any less is to… Read more »

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J, have you ever danced a lead/follow dance? And have you watched women’s emotional reactions while they are in such a dance, when the man leads well?

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I was wrong that the issue isn’t addressed in the manosphere. After a bit of search last night I found this related post from Heartiste. That’s not the first time I have experienced savage put downs by unattractive women both irl and on Tinder. Some lower smv women prop up their self esteem by being bitches to men who approach them because in some way it must allow them to feel like they are emulating the behaviour of women with higher smv and like they have choices (ultimately they don’t). Higher SMV women have less to prove to themselves and… Read more »

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@Palmasailor I don’t rule out the miscalibration in approach though I doubt it’s the only variable at play. Sometimes the bitchy attitude and malicious intent is already pre-installed and she is just waiting for you to do the approach so she can shoot the venom. I remember a story a girl I was dating told me once: She used to frequent a bar in Paris where she would dress like a peacock to get the attention of a habitue who never would flirt with her. Despite her constant peacocking around him …this guy wouldn’t even stare at her or pay… Read more »

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“Sometimes the bitchy attitude and malicious intent is already pre-installed and she ”

She? I thought you were talking about yourself.

“I remember a story a girl I was dating told me once”

And the lessons of that are lost on you…

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How you react to them is part of the interaction. It’s a feedback loop.

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The best move is to laugh and say “What makes you think I was interested?” and turn your back on her. Start counting down the seconds in your head, because there is a high probability that she will start pursuing you.

Just be careful, because if she is truly a skank whore, you don’t want to have anything to do with that, and once a girl wants to fuck you, it’s my experience that she will usually find a way to convince you against your better judgment.

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Apropos of nothing in particular beyond the passing of an age, Mary “Spitfire Girl” Ellis of the British Air Transport Authority and first female commandant of the RAF and perhaps the most all around experienced pilot in the world when she was one of three women selected to fly the Gloster Meteor jet fighter died on July 24, age 101.

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“How you react to them is part of the interaction. It’s a feedback loop.”

Illustrated in American Sniper 2014 – Chris Kyle meets Taya Kyle:

video 3:53 min long:

https://youtu.be/dYwHq8vnI74

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“Some lower smv women prop up their self esteem by being bitches to men who approach them because in some way it must allow them to feel like they are emulating the behaviour of women with higher smv and like they have choices (ultimately they don’t). Higher SMV women have less to prove to themselves and others.” agree. two early 20s girls i know. both obsessed with guys. they constantly talk about guys and their plans with regards to handling them girl 1: “guys are like, obsessed. they’re all snapping me because she (point to friend, girl 2) won’t respond”… Read more »

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@ SJF

Those wide navy seal shoulders were half of the game.

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“both totally unfuckable yet have guys hounding them at every bar and snapping them and inflating their egos to massive proportions while chad, evan and brock won’t even acknowledge they are actually females

they think they have options. it’s quite insane.”

Accurate assessment of how fucked up is the dating market today!

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The women Orson (and most of the manosphere) is complaining about are low/high quality primative women (“skank whores”). Just saying NAWALT…

https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/42hq5w/awalt_debunked_based_on_science_no_not_all_women/

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“they think they have options. it’s quite insane.” Yeah truth. Last Friday I was trying to make sure my girl (7.5)’s friend had a guy (one of the first thing my girl asked me when I approached her was “do you have a friend for my friend”?). Thr friend was a chubby short big titty 4.5. Eventually this 7 approaches her and begins flirting with her. His game isnt that great but I’m like whew she has a good looking guy now (she said she likes tall white guys). Guy excuses himself to go to the bathroom, then my girl… Read more »

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Lol at Reddit. Awalt is better understood after grasping the underlying mechanics of women. Once you.so this, you will see awalt, and that it’s by degrees – from raging all the way to barely perceptible. Instead of looking to debunk, guys should – as yareally used to preach – field test it. Also understand this: if a guy has had very little exposure to a larger sample of women over his earlrlife, all of the ” concepts ” will be confusing, confounding, and most likely misunderstood. I learned this reading along in the sphere. Not getting Awalt is exactly how… Read more »

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NAWALT is what blue/purple pill guys or trad thots utilise to hide the fact that hypergamy is more like a subconscious drive. Your NAWALT unicorn remains in this modality for as long as her hypergamy remains dormant.

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“Those wide navy seal shoulders were half of the game.”

Even if that is so/stipulated, what about the other half?

What are you going to do about that? Wait for the right girl to present herself to you?

Orson, quick question: Have you ever read The Mystery Method?

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Opening up that reddit link I spy in the first paragraph:

To answer this i’d like to quote Mark Manson, a former dating coach

A blue pill conservative feminist is quoted in a reddit article that claims NAWALT.
Might as well link to PragerU.

I laugh.

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I stopped reading after that sentence.

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“Ok. Why are you approaching thosewomen?”

“Travel and met a wider range of people perhaps?

Maybe don’t spend so much time around skank whores?”

Hmmm what did they mean by this?

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Eventually this 7 approaches her

HER? what kind of fresh fuckery is this? Guys are NOT on the HB scale J…

Really you need to start growing up.

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J As far as my comment about spending time around ” skank whores ” ( which is telling of mindset in itself ), is that some.chicks let their dream flags fly with zfg about how they are perceived. Usually men they won’t fuck tend to harshly label them in some manner. My broader point, if you’d pay attention, is that every single woman has the potential to be a ” skank whores “. Awalt. This includes every woman I know, as well as my mom, wife and daughters. Potential and degree. There’s nothing mysterious or baffling about women. Ignition/fuel systems… Read more »

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@SJF No I haven’t read M.Method. I watched a bunch of videos from him the other day and have mixed feelings about as I am of the opinion that a guy who has internalised rep pill knowledge should be able to develop his own game! I wasn’t particularly blue pill before coming here with an exception of a LTR with a nasty BPD where I ended being omega! My father and oldest brother were quite alpha type of men and I was an avid reader of Marquis De Sade. Also when younger my hero was auteur porn star Rocco Siffredi….a… Read more »

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This is why I consistently ask if while guys are out there approaching all this chicks over many years, are you learning anything?

I think that J carries his learning organ in his pants.

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Orson, you are one stupid fuck. Here SJF hands you the keys to the kingdom and you drop the keys on the floor.

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J, Blax can read my field reports and see that I’m learning shit. Try to keep up.

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I actually think you are the stupid fuck here!
I have had my share of women either before or after the red pill! I also know in real life many natural pussy slayers who know nothing about faggot MM or the red pill!

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@Rollo @guys have you heard about this👇

https://youtu.be/np_ylvc8Zj8

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@Kobayashii:

Yes.

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“Guys are NOT on the HB scale” guys are on the “how badly can he fuck me up” scale, not purely physical but all life wise 7 = probability is good that some damage will occur but will not approach significance she was itching for 8+ that night translation: “I know he’ll beat up my pussy, but will he cross the line? let’s find out” really not knowing if she gonna get choked out in an alley = tingles instability is a factor girls screening for in short term fux chads as instability = more opportunity to emotionally manipulate a… Read more »

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I am of the opinion that a guy who has internalised rep pill knowledge should be able to develop his own game!

If you are the only one who speaks your language, good luck with that…

Game is the decoded female language of seduction…

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I actually think you are the stupid fuck here!
I have had my share of women either before or after the red pill!

How long have you been in a relationship and are still having sex? That’s the measure of how good your game is.

Read MM. Or stay stupid, Idc.

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“I am of the opinion that a guy who has internalised rep pill knowledge should be able to develop his own game!” Oh, Really? By using masculine inductive and deductive reasoning? Red Pill is awareness. Game is practice. The reason the manosphere was invented was to swap notes among guys about both. And to help with process. The Game (Neil Strauss’ book) and Mystery method was process founded on awareness of inter-sexual dynamics based on field work and PUA tactics. art·ist·ry noun creative skill or ability. synonyms: creative skill, creativity, art, skill, talent, genius, brilliance, flair, proficiency, virtuosity, finesse, style… Read more »

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Last night I was at a bar sitting with a bunch of old ladies. It was a group meetup. I didn’t know them, but I was paying attention to their signals. I told some mild stories from my youth and these women gave me some IOD’s, which I recognized in the moment. I just stayed chill and shut up and looked around. They restarted the convo and I told some more stories and riffed off of some stories another guy told and the girls were giggling and laughing. The event organizer asked me for suggestions for a meetup and I… Read more »

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I am not entirely dismissive of reading MM! Depends how much you actually need this information and sometimes can be counter-intuitive. It can make you too much self-aware of your previous successful natural game …assuming you had one in the first place.

I think this guy answers it better:
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/how-you-should-be-picking-up-women-using-your-own-game-not-gurus-pua-material.185552/

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@Blax
“There’s nothing mysterious or baffling about women. Ignition/fuel systems on modern cars are more mysterious than any woman could ever aspire to be.”

In fact they can be even simpler, more like working an on/off switch or a volume-control knob. But there were plenty of times I couldn’t even tell one from the other, or I’d lost the remote.

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Orson,

Welcome to the Bargaining phase of Unplugging.

https://therationalmale.com/2012/07/25/the-5-stages-of-unplugging/

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@blax

“that somechicks let their dream flags fly with zfg about how they are perceived”

Ya..so we agree… Not All Women Are Like That

The ivy league chick I SNL raw dogged two weeks ago, could be classified as a HQNP chick (not at all like the women Orsons complaining about). But I gotta calibrate to her (not gonna treat ALL women the same broski) because I’m pretty sure shes already in lurv with me lol. Texting me shit like “when am I seeing your chocolate eyes again”).

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Passed my test.

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But I gotta calibrate to her

Don’t confuse social mores and environment with biology. Girls may act a certain way but under the hood they are the same.

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and you really need to get off that Autism site…

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Blax just don’t even go there…

https://lookism.net/Thread-Aspie-What-makes-a-Girl-HQNP-Semi-SRS?pid=2257562#pid2257562

lol

They basically come up with their own language to simply describe how the majority of UMC girls look and behave in public and to non sexually experienced males…

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“Girls may act a certain way but under the hood they are the same.”

You telling me you’d treat a HB9 that grew up with rich conservative parents, attending Harvard University and slept with 4 guys, the EXACT same way you’d treat a poor HB9 that grew up with an alcoholic abusive father, and fucked 75 dudes at Arizona State University?

Yeah. Parents/childhood/environment matters.

Ever heard High Self Esteem vs Low Self Esteem girls? Yeah. Gotta Calibrate your approach to the girl u manipulating gaming.

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@SJF

What do you have to say about this funny guy? At which phase of Unplugging he is?

“A lot of the manosphere is the PUAsphere, who are preoccupied with man-whoring ..and even the MGTOW camp .. a lot of them have the philosophy of the “enjoy the decline” which is making the most out of the sexual licentiousness and degeneracy while you’re able!
Only a feminist society will give these man-whores, these degenerates and these hedonists what they want in exchange for nothing practically.”

https://youtu.be/XzdoEYoXQQM

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” You telling me you’d treat a HB9 that grew up with rich conservative parents, attending Harvard University and slept with 4 guys, the EXACT same way you’d treat a poor HB9 that grew up with an alcoholic abusive father, and fucked 75 dudes at Arizona State University? ” ” The ivy league chick I SNL raw dogged two weeks ago, could be classified as a HQNP chick (not at all like the women Orsons complaining about). But I gotta calibrate to her (not gonna treat ALL women the same broski) because I’m pretty sure shes already in lurv with… Read more »

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More RP, Less pua. Balance.

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” You telling me you’d treat a HB9 that grew up with rich conservative parents, attending Harvard University and slept with 4 guys, the EXACT same way you’d treat a poor HB9 that grew up with an alcoholic abusive father, and fucked 75 dudes at Arizona State University? ” Let’s look at this more closely, because it’s illustrative and telling. They. Are. Just. Girls. What difference does it make to you re: different upbringing, unless you buy into the idea that it nullifies AWALT? How would your approach differ for the 2 women in question – and better yet, how… Read more »

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Orson,

Denial

Ask not what ought to be, but what is.

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“and you really need to get off that Autism site…” no fucking way. weaponized autism is amazing. i think of it like the beam that comes out of sauron’s eye in lotr movie. you don’t want that shit focused on you, but if you know the landscape you can use it for great advantage i mean, look what happened to party skanks because of people like rsd guy. autism spectrum basically outed their whole m.o. and now i learn that wife has very desirable canthal tilt?.lol (thanks for link, Blax). add it to the list of shit my cock figured… Read more »

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“how do you know the n-count of the Harvard chick” Ive been around enough girls to tell. Honest signals. Dont listen to what they say, watch what they do. “How would your approach differ for the 2 women in question” Simple. I’d show more of my cocky zfg asshole side to the slutty chick. And as for the conservative chick, I’d tone it down (not completely eliminate it) in favor of a more charismatic mysterious vibe with a hint of ruthlessness underneath it. “Just be yourself” – lol Talior your game to your target. Let me try an analogy lol… Read more »

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Orson

I am not entirely dismissive of reading MM! Depends how much you actually need this information and sometimes can be counter-intuitive.

Since your own “intuition” has led you into nuclear rejections, you might want to re-train it. Since Mystery’s method actually works even in the face of a nuclear rejection you might want to learn it.

Now as for sosuave, you do realize that Rollo was commenting there over 10 years ago, right? This site is a direct outgrowth of dialogs at SoSuave…

Get off the “Toh-MAY-toh” vs. “Toh-MAH-toh” hamster treadmill. Start learning.

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” know they’re both former Quarterbacks (girls), but I’m sure NFL defenses didn’t prepare/practice to shut down dual threat QB Michael Vick (slutty girl) the same way they prepared for The Shieriff, Peyton Manning (conservative girl).” Khalil Mack. Good game is good. Nuff said. ” Ive been around enough girls to tell. Honest signals. Dont listen to what they say, watch what they do. ” No. You haven’t been around enough of them if this is what you believe. ” I’d show more of my cocky zfg asshole side to the slutty chick. And as for the conservative chick, I’d… Read more »

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Sad stuff at that lookism.net site, it reads like a reddit for socially retarded teenagers. Their definitions don’t even make sense from comment to comment. They basically come up with their own language to simply describe how the majority of UMC girls look and behave in public and to non sexually experienced males… Yeah, it’s like combining some of the worst of separatist feminism with Incel paranoia and mixing it with ingroup-slang from some nerds in the mid-high locker room. Worst thing? No way they would take any advice from a man who knows something, because they’ve worked up their… Read more »

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” You telling me you’d treat a HB9 that grew up with rich conservative parents, attending Harvard University and slept with 4 guys, the EXACT same way you’d treat a poor HB9 that grew up with an alcoholic abusive father, and fucked 75 dudes at Arizona State University? ” Let’s look at this more closely, because it’s illustrative and telling. They. Are. Just. Girls. I had a grandma who graduated from Columbia back in the day. She had money back when it meant something. She and gramps owned a vacation house in the FL keys and they went there every… Read more »

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So let me ask, if ” cocky whatever the fuck ” works with one chick, why wouldn’t it work with Ms. Conservative? Tell me why exactly game has to be ” tailored ” for different chicks. I was running game last night at the restaurant. The girls were _pretending_ that they were speshul snowflakes and were running down some guy they had seen before for telling stories. They called them whoppers. I ran my game and told stories. At first they pretended that they weren’t interested. Eventually, they were laughing. Girls run their own games and you have to figure… Read more »

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j The ivy league chick I SNL raw dogged two weeks ago, could be classified as a HQNP chick That “Hi Quality” “Non Primitive” classification is really stupid. it’s more stupid than HB-whatever. Because it’s subjective, but adds an extra layer of complexity. Not repeatable, therefore not testable, therefore not useful. You should drop it. Just stop. (not at all like the women Orsons complaining about) Orson is complaining about getting blown out via nuclear rejection. All women are capable of that. All of them. AWALT. If you don’t believe this claim, you have not been around enough women long… Read more »

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