I want to thank you if you’ve made it through the first part of this series and you stuck with it. In some respects I can see why it might be odd that I’m covering cognitive processes, however, these are really the foundational premises for so many other Red Pill intersexual dynamics, as well as interpersonal and even social dynamics between humans that they deserve some sort of fleshing out. Again, I want to stress that these cognitive processing models are ideas I’m coming to and not settled science. However, they are based on both classic interpretations combined with the benefit of what we know about the biological, evolutionary and anthropological aspects of the cognitive processes today.
If you made the connection to Freud’s components of personality models – the Id, Ego and Super Ego – in the last post you at least grasp something of the initial theory I’m building on here. Useful as they are, Freud’s models lacked anything like an understanding of how the human mind works or how it evolved to the degree we take for granted today. Freud made his best guess at these processes from an inner psyche perspective. He formed his theories from what he deduced was operating inside our heads. My belief is that his (and others’) cognitive process models evolved and developed in response to interpreting our environment and the stimuli that our senses translated to them in our formative evolutionary past. Really, all of these interpretive processes, Instinct, Emotion and Reason, are the result of our experiential lives and the many benefits they provided us in surviving and reproducing.
All of that is not to discount the internal psyche and how these processes define who we are. Freud’s model proposed the Id, Ego and Superego are components of personality, what I’m proposing is that these components are the result of evolved cognitive processes – Instinct, Emotion and Reason – that served to create these inner models which later became those components of personality. I should say that I’m not entirely sold on these Freudian components, but I can see how cognitive processes would’ve led to developing them. I propose that these components of personality, Freud’s or other’s, are the products of these interpretive processes.
The Ego is a result of the Rational (Reason) process, while the Superego is a summation of the Emotional process. Since I don’t want to veer off into the psychology lesson in all this I’ll leave this proposition for another essay, but I do want to make a distinction here; What I’m proposing in this series is that our evolved interpretive processes are the means by which we interpret our reality, which in turn shapes who we are individually, socially and sexually.
Base Instincts
Stripped down, the Id is a result of the Instinctual process and largely resides in our unconscious or preconscious experience. Instinct is reflexive, and the behaviors it prompts are directly related to our basic survival and reproductive needs. Instinct operates outside our consciousness because of the inability of the human brain to focus on the endless sources of stimulus we experience in life. As good as we’d like to think we are with multi-tasking our interpretive cognition can only process so much; the rest is pushed into our subconscious periphery and hindbrain subroutines. This is the auto-pilot part of our instinctual cognition.
Since we largely see our Rational and Emotional processes (not to mention our social consciousness) as “higher order” processes, we tend to downplay the importance of Instinct. Our Instinctive process evolved to sustain our physical survival and reproductive imperatives in as pragmatic and practical a way as would be expedient. In most respects Instinctual interpretation and cognition is, by necessity, based on immediacy. By comparison, Emotion and Reason are slower forms of cognition, and, in the case of Reason, requires a period of learning, development and internalization. As such, there is no complication of conscience or morality, nor time for rational or emotional reflection when instinctual awareness and action is necessary. All the things we call sin or immoral, unethical or duplicitous, are manifested by our Instinctual process. But so too are ennobling aspects like self-sacrifice, violence-in-protection, mate guarding and parental investment. Hypergamy is also a behavioral and psychological dynamic that is deeply rooted in the Instinctual process.
Because of all that instinct often carries a negative preconception, at least by modern standards. And thus the Id becomes the part of the human psyche inseparably connected to the instinctual process. The desire for immediate gratification, the direct, unmitigated satisfaction of our most basic needs, and the hedonistic pursuit of pleasure; all of these we associate with the Id. However, all of these basic gratifications are directed towards elements of our evolved, instinctual needs for survival and insurances of thriving in the future. Much of what we think of as impulsivity is connected to the immediate aspect of instinct, but even this often serves some latent biological or survival purpose.
Gendered Differences
In psychology 101 we’re taught to think of the Id as our ‘childish’ selves. How many times have we read in the manosphere about how men can better relate with women via Amused Mastery or relating to them like a bratty younger sister? This process, this PUA technique, is a subconscious appeal to women’s Id via the Instinctual process. When I proposed that women want a man who Just Gets It a huge part of that dynamic relies on a man appealing to a woman’s Instinctual cognition. This is exactly why demonstrating an intent serves so much better than explicating an intent. Actions speak louder than words because actions always speak clearly to our Instinctual processing. Yet one more reason I, and most of my Red Pill contemporaries, advocate for the Medium being the Message – behavior almost always appeals to instinct.
One of the questions I’m always asked by guys is, how do I know when a woman is in whichever phase of her ovulation? Usually this is prompted by some reasoned want to be able to know when to turn up the Alpha around their girlfriend’s proliferative phase and ease off when she’s in her luteal (down cycle) phase. When you look at this in terms of cognitive processes, a man’s Reasoning process wants to deductively solve a problem that is rooted in the Instinctual process. It certainly makes sense, like a lot of other problems, to use our smarts to solve that reproductive problem. The real problem is that the use of Reason is what defeats the Instinctual cognition. There are actually many subconscious, instinctual mechanisms men have evolved to determine a great deal of information about women reproductive states, but our Reason and what goes into influencing it, tends to make us discount what out Instinctive process is telling us.
Most guys get frustrated with Game at some stage of their learning (Reason) it. The most common complaint is “I can never hope to remember all of this shit perfectly all the time. I can’t calibrate the way I need to, or, this is all an act, when can I let my hair down and just relax with a girl?” Another common question/presumption guys hit me with is how I manage to continually Game my wife. The answer I almost universally give is that I don’t, in fact, consciously Game my wife. Rather, my success in our marriage and really all of my relationships with all the women in my life is the result of having internalized what I’ve learned from Red Pill awareness and made it who I am. I’ve taken what I’ve learned and internalized it to the point that Game became my instinctual response to women’s instinctual process.
Game is not an act for me, it’s an instinct. If you were to put a guitar in my hands today I could play it with a good degree of proficiency. I can play by ear and instinctually I anticipate where notes and chord progressions go if I’m trying to play a song I’ve never played before because I’ve been playing guitar for the better part of my life. However, there was a point in time where all of that was foreign to me. I could play by rote memorization, but playing music wasn’t instinctual. Playing an instrument wasn’t part of who I was at that point in time.
The same is true for internalizing Game. It is entirely possible for your Rational process to inform your Instinctual process as well as your Emotional processes. This interplay can work for all our cognitive processes, but as I’m focusing on instinct today I want to stress again that Rational and Emotional processes can alter the, largely subconscious, Instinctual process. I have pretty good pitch as a result of being a musician for so long. If you asked me to play a particular note or chord I would instinctively do so. What I wouldn’t do is hunt around the fretboard counting frets and string to come to it. This is the best illustration I can give you with regards to internalizing other things.
Martial arts is another good example. There are certain innate, instinctual reactions we have when we’re confronted with conflict or protecting ourselves. When something flies at our faces we flinch. When we hear a sudden loud noise we startle. These are inborn parts of our firmware that evolved in us for very good reasons. What martial arts training does is forces us to sublimate those natural instincts and replace them with more efficient instinctual responses. Again, this is the Rational process rewriting the instinctual process via internalization.
Art has always been something I’ve had an innate ability for. I have do doubt that many of our natural cognitive ‘gifts’ are in some way gene expressions. So when we see a ‘natural’ at something our rational/emotional minds tend to think of it as something almost supernatural. However, I had to learn to play music because I was determined to express myself creatively in that fashion as well, and that took perseverance and internalization of skills. I think the same can be said for guys we think are ‘naturals’ with regard to Game and women. They may have an instinctual affinity for Game. They may be blessed with good genetics. But Game can be learned and internalized down to the Instinctual level.
All of that said, there are still fundamental parts of our mental firmware that are ‘pre-loaded’ into us at birth. Shit tests, Hypergamy, mate guarding behaviors, ovulatory shift behaviors, and many more are in-loaded in women and every bit as Instinctual as breathing or eating or self-preservation. Just as there are physical gender differences in our brains and bodies, so too are their differences in men and women’s Instinctual processes. The easiest one for us to consider is in sexual imperatives. I’ve noted in many essays that only women are Hypergamous. Men and women’s sexual strategies are reflective of their differing physical and mental make up, but those strategies are also different (and often contradicting) as a result of the Instinctual process unique to men and women as well.
One of the more powerful instincts men have is our sexual impulse and as a consequence it’s one that we are taught to control the most. Hypergamy is also a product of women’s Instinctual process, however, since about 60 years ago, prosocial control over Hypergamy has become something individual to a woman. Men’s self-control over their sexual nature is something that’s been part of our upbringing for millennia, women today are just now being expected to self-police their own sexual impulsivity.
These innate gender differences in instinct are a very difficult aspect of human nature for both egalitarian equalists and traditional moralists to accept. Equalists chomp at the bit with respect to their ego-investments in blank-slate idealism. Even the idea of a gendered difference in human nature, much less a human “nature” at all (a concept most deny) conflicts with the social constructivism that forms most of their ideology. Moralists tend to think that acknowledging (much less embracing) our instinctual selves is endorsing the worst of it, or it’s some kind of license to shirk the personal responsibilities for it. And, for both equalist and moralist, accepting our instinctual natures seems deterministic in a way that conflicts with their sense of existential control.
Well, the good news for both is that understanding men and women’s Instinctually processed natures is something our other two processes (for better or worse) have an influence over. There’s a common refrain from equalists today that presumes we’ve “evolved beyond” our base instincts (if they acknowledge them at all). From moralists we’ve always been ‘higher minded’ and above our instincts, that is if we accept some ideological ‘truth’. The root of both of these presumptions can be traced to the Emotional and Rational processes influencing our Instinctive process.
I’m of the opinion that very few of us are actually ruled by our instincts, but they are always the favorite scapegoat for ideologues. As a Red Pill aware man I think it’s important to have an objective understanding of how the Instinctive process operates in ourselves and women. Denying or disqualifying the importance of instinct and why it evolved is usually one of the biggest blindspots for a Blue Pill conditioned mind.
In the next part of this series I’ll explore the Emotional process and how it’s become the preeminent social-defining experience for us.
I hope things are going well for you guys. I have been away busy with exams in my native language. On the Canadian incel killer, I think that since I sort of share his condition I can give an “expert” opinion. The media is the big problem. Sex is something expected. When it does not happen, it hurts. Feminists will call this “entitlement” but whatever. It is also placed at the toppest of the top of the social totem nowadays, more than ever. The President of the U.S. of A. bangs pornstars… and people cheer him! haha I know, I… Read more »
EhIntellect
I’m watching this WC football June’18 with you. Which team do you support?
I googled once how to comment on a blog that already banned me.
They told me the procedure. But at the bottom, they asked a one-way Question ” Why do you want to return to a place where people don’t want you?”
Interested in Mathematics. If I spend this amount of time in Mathe, I can earn my living with that.
Good Bye
Oscar,
Your physical appearance has zilch to do with your sex life. It’s in your head.
“would kill to know who is fucking whom, honestly.”
I take you at your word. Back off the ledge a bit.
@Eh
Nah, it isn’t. Looks matter, if not lifting would not matter. And I am no autist. Introverted, bookish, yeah, but nothing truly weird. Hence the bewilderment.
It was just a metaphor, don’t worry.
” …Trump the double divorcee, regardless of his positive virtues…..”
let’s try this one then
@oscar
“Sex is something expected. When it does not happen, it hurts”
https://twitter.com/thefaceberg/status/989325470205267968
“I wish I had their determination.”
https://twitter.com/ethenes/status/989334172840939520
yep. Determination, to keep going despite barely getting laid (fucked only 5s and 6s my first year) and getting harsh rejections and STILL having that ‘I want to get better’ trait + being “naturally cunning”, are what I find all former incels (lost virginity at 21) now getting desire sex from attractive girls, share in common. Maybe this might not inspire you, but it did me when I wasn’t getting results my first year.
Ya’s story:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2012/6/#comment-heartiste-345976
Oscar Yo Baby What’s up???? How you been??? Sex. Sex isn’t hard to get. This morning as I was getting my mail, I spied with my little eye, my older female neighbor hurriedly sneaking a gentleman into her home. People that want to have sex are figuring out ways to do so. The roadblocks are all in your head. I’m not sure I follow you when you say ” Sex is something expected. When it does not happen, it hurts. “. Why would it hurt? There’s a lot of people all around. At least half of them are women. opportunity?… Read more »
Oscar
Looks matter, if not lifting would not matter.
False. Upper body exercise is proven to increase Testosterone. Increased T affects a man positively in many ways: deeper voice, more confidence, less anxiety, even different smell. Lifting improves mental state and subcommunication.
Stop buffering about “looks”, that’s pure blue-pill poison. Rewrite the neural pathways starting today.
@j It is very inspiring indeed, most of the PUA stories are. I am saving it, thanks. I would add a certain degree of schizoid personality disorder to being cunning and determined. I don’t get the idea of “love”. I don’t feel lonely or miss a romantic relationship, I just feel cheated for not being able to enjoy something highly pleasurable. For instance, I don’t understand how men can be so affected by a cheating GF. For me it only matters as a public humillation, it is utterly ridiculous to pretend there is nobody better than you out there. At… Read more »
Oscar
So yeah, it does get under your skin. It makes you feel uncomplete. By far the hardest thing I have ever experienced.
Perhaps you enjoy this though?
@ Blax Hello, things are going well. I hope you too 🙂 Yeah, that’s the thing: I never expected to bang Victoria Secret models, but as it turns out even average girls are not easy… at all! I know by now you are thinking I am very retarded socially, but I don’t think it is the case. Not sexual perhaps, and that is what I am working on. I don’t know. I would not mind banging girls like Lena Dunham for instance. That is what I mean by average. Less than that? Meh… hard. I had a chance with a… Read more »
Lena Dunham??!!??!!
this guy has autistic gay face
http://thehollywoodmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/idris-2.gif
@Sentient
haha nice clip. Pacino is usually great.
ahh what the fuck blax??? delete
Nah, it isn’t. Looks matter, if not lifting would not matter.
Lifting matters because it turns the man’s head around…being ripped makes a man feel more attractive…so, because a man feels more attractive, he has more confidence…girls don’t give a fuck whether or not a guy is ripped…girls ping off of men’s confidence…I pull girls from ripped guys all the time…if you’re ripped, you’re probably compensating for insecurity…that’s how girls figure it…
fuck you blax, lol
Dr. Coz going to jail for drugging this lesbian…
if you’re ripped, you’re probably compensating for insecurity…that’s how girls figure it…
Erm…. no. Unless you are gay or chronically BP… They do feel inferior though, and scared – of other girls. lol
https://twitter.com/IllimitableMan/status/989600729613692928
via RT tweet
Probably regret posting this…
oscar…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvZ1YQCTWi8
Get anything from this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3O-OEem3XM
Complete scene
lol. Sorry?
I’m contacting my attorneys about visual abuse…#sight4soreeyes…I feel like I need some wealth redistributed to me, lol…America is such a wealthy country, so people with wealth need to give me some
ASD: if you’re ripped, you’re probably compensating for insecurity…that’s how girls figure it…
Sentient: Erm…. no. Unless you are gay or chronically BP…
…and, of course, most ripped guys are RP…smh, lol
@Sentient
I ran out of ruth seeds for my garden.
@Oscar @j Don’t worry j and ASD, I’ve got the mind bleach for lena dunham Guy must be drowning in pussy lol. Here’s a good post for you about looks Oscar: https://therationalmale.com/2016/05/06/good-girls-bad-girls/comment-page-9/#comment-156194 Super jacked dudes aren’t as much of an ubermensh as you think. You can tool them or befriend them. I had a casual conversation with a cute foreign girl and a handsome jacked dude way back last September. Teased the girl on her accent, NOT AT ALL trying to pick up the chick, and completely took over the set to the point where the guy got pissed, stood… Read more »
How you feel should have no bearing on what you need to do.
“How you feel should have no bearing on what you need to do.” of course: “At its core, chasing motivation is insistence on the infantile fantasy that we should only be doing things we feel like doing. The problem is then framed thus: “How do I get myself to feel like doing what I have rationally decided to do?”. Bad. The proper question is “How do I make my feelings inconsequential and do the things I consciously want to do without being a little bitch about it?”” http://www.wisdomination.com/screw-motivation-what-you-need-is-discipline/ motivation to me is icing on the cake. when I’m feeling super… Read more »
Oscar is sucking his thumb with his “what I’m not” comfort blankey.
He refuses to address what he’s good at as that would require movement.
The duplicity is known uncomfortable, movement is known uncomfortable, being static is known uncomfortable.
He’s getting off on his own masochism.
How’s that working out for ya?
Oh how you do on your exams?
Why even try? Because you’ve had practice at scholarship and don’t find it too uncomfortable not to try.
@oscar
and to add to my question about low energy,
#1 what do you enjoy doing?
#2 what have you gone out and done game-wise: FRs and such?
@kfg. Yeah good stuff @oscar You’re in your head. The only thing stopping you is yourself. You’ve had your opportunities. you know you have. You talked yourself out of it and you don’t really want to go through with the deal.. you have to want to do it and you have to trust in yourself that you know what to do. Looks do matter. But there are girls out there who will follow your lead.. yes YOU. You have to want to take them.. not look for reasons to pass. The key to getting laid is recognizing the opportunities and… Read more »
@ j F1 drivers are probably good case studies for Instinct, Emotion, and Reason. Ayrton Senna should be poignant for Red Pillers. In his lifetime he was already being discussed as a possible for GOAT. Crashed and died at age 34 while leading the San Marino GP. A most dynamic, passionate, and authentic racing driver; some say he was felled by woman troubles. From wiki-p entry: “Former Formula 1 driver Nelson Piquet said Senna was under pressure and suffering emotional stress in his last days.[52] In 1994, Senna was dating the model Adriane Galisteu for almost a year. In the… Read more »
@ Tuff
From what I can see, Oscar isn’t scared of pussy. He’s kinda ambivalent. It’s like some sort of concept, sex. It’s just what is supposed to be done.
Not from a DRIVE, but like a biological process. Like taking a shit.
Blax
Not all will reproduce. Many won’t come close. No pun… All good.
Oscar and Hank have all the knowledge available to them. All the opportunity they need.
They just lack everything else.
Hard for me to listen to people speaking Portuguese. Thankfully I can turn the volume down and read the subtitles.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I-SlUVhB5k&w=1280&h=720%5D
The only time I can hear Portuguese without grinding my teeth is when it’s spoken by a hot, sexy Brazilian. Preferably a stripper, but that’s optional.
I never heard about Senna’s youthful marriage before. Lots of Red Pill realities in that video.
Videos become like that after you’ve had the Red Pill. All your old DVD movies tell a different story from when you first watched them.
Sentient ” Not all will reproduce. Many won’t come close. No pun… All good.” I’m really starting to believe that this is a protective function purely of biology. For all the talk of women being hard to bang, there’s a reason for much of it, and mostly it is right in the mirror. Last week I had a couple of cool conversations with my soon graduating 18 year old ( time fucking breaks the sound barrier ). Her: * coming through front door from school * _smooch_ ” the mailman’s hitting on me “. Me: ” of course he is… Read more »
@ Lost
” Videos become like that after you’ve had the Red Pill. All your old DVD movies tell a different story from when you first watched them.”
Certified.
Not all will reproduce. Many won’t come close. No pun… All good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8EAwRauoM
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[A previous post of mine got lost apparently, I will try to reconstruct it.] @Sentient Well, I guess the message of the Daniel Day Lewis clip is that you have to fight tooth and nail for success. I get that, and I don’t mind delayed gratification. But sex is not like learning a language, where you put in the work and eventually see results. It is way more random and chaotic. I will keep trying nonetheless. @hank Well, more than low energy I would call it apathy… Sport makes me feel better but very temporarily. Also, it has been a… Read more »
“I will have to fake the “passion” lol”
That’s likely the key problem right there.
@EhIntellect (what a handle, lol) – Why dump on the incels? Uhhh, two boys from this little community have gone on fucking killing sprees of innocents. Perhaps if one of your loved ones was killed, you wouldn’t be so glib. And be clear – they egg each other on to do violence. Read the comments I posted, look at these little sub-humans cheering on the killing of random innocents. We used to beat such men for fun. We used to shut them the fuck up and keep them in line. Why on earth does any man have sympathy for a… Read more »
Re: Oscar C – LMFAO. Hey, Oscar – you roll in here telling us what’s what about sex and your failures and then argue. Let me break it down very simply for you. 1. You don’t get laid because you are a failed man. Your presence around women actually dries their pussies up. Like if you accidentally ran into a woman who was ovulating and in heat and ready to bang just about any guy who could put 3 sentences together, you would dry her pussy up too. Get that. It’s YOUR FAULT. Not societies. Not the media. 2. The… Read more »
TuffLuv, I hear you, though I disagree with your conflation of Oscar and the Elliot Rogers type incel. Oscar’s got potential, spine and can handle more than people think, he knows it too. IMO, that’s why this place resonates with him. We tell the truth to those we love the most. At least I do and he swallows the RP as he can. That’s all a person can expect from themselves and I respect that. This isn’t anything personal. I’d be the first guy to kick up a shitstorm if he was threatened. He’s looking for answers and is finding… Read more »
@ Chump No More “Incels are far from a joke. They are social engineering run amok. They are the direct result of our western fem-centric society’s war on masculinity. Boys must be the taught traditional, positive masculinity of stoicism, discipline, and resilience to modulate the impulsivity, aggression, and risk-taking fueled by hormones. In their disastrous machinations to create the better beta, we have generations of men with no emotional restraint or masculine coping skills…” Well said, but Incels are not men, but males. We must remember that. One must earn the title of ‘man’ in my opinion… Though i do… Read more »
Btw, I thought I was mild. I don’t calibrate well.
@SilverFox – Do you feel sorry for a guy who plays basketball, but loses every game because he doesn’t bother to train and improve? Who instead whines about it and talks to other losers about going out in the world to shoot up random innocents to staunch his anger? Any man can improve himself. Any man can learn Game. Period. @Chump – Mostly a good analysis but you completely muffed one aspect. INCELS HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED. What’s new is the Red Pill telling them they are victims too. It’s a wicked combo of SJW mentality and Red Pill truth that… Read more »
Hey Wildman, one more comment for you, because you cannot un-ring the bell and MUST move forward to get over your grief (for BOTH loss of son and loss of sex/intimacy/ltr) – you should really read Scribblergs post from April 27, 2018 at 5:13 and take it to heart. Yes these posts are “kicks when you are down”, but they are meant to be kicks in the butt to get you moving forward, because we care about all the guys who want to swallow the pill and are willing to do the work. We don’t, however, care about guys who… Read more »
Oscar C. – Maybe the issue you are identifying as to the state of your overall outlook, is one of ambivalence, ….. and perhaps even the melancholy that can creep in that door of uncertainty …. ambivalence borne of life’s quandary (the quandary that everybody has to deal with, one way or the other, but many choose to run away from the quandary instead of facing it …… but, if one chooses to seek truth and therefore chooses to face the quandary, one will soon start to see that the experience of life is full of contradictions that in turn… Read more »
I thought I saw Oscar say he’s a virgin.. maybe I misunderstood. If he’s a virgin past the age of 20.. He simply needs to do some fucking. That’s the first step. The chick will hopefully show him a thing or two, and thus fix all his other hangups for him, so he can move forward from there. I agree with scrib’s attitude about not coddling men, and his message to them to step up to the competition or shut up. Agree with much of what scrib says except maybe the extent of his sexual conquest. hehe Seriously though Oscar..… Read more »
marelius – thanks for your recent comment. And thanks for the concern. Of course I am grieving for the loss of my son to this realm. And yes – moving forward is necessary. One day at a time – making it better … perhaps using the example he showed me, with regards to helping myself do that. I think I am doing that (or at least trying). But none of what scribblerg counseled at 5:13 a.m. resonates with me. I think scribblerg might still be a tad too cynical. Not sure. Many of his comments come across that way though… Read more »
Oscar C. – I got the impression that you have had sex with pros though – no?
It is unfair to compare Oscar to incels like Rodger Elliot. Oscar may not have sexual experience, but none of his posts in the past were hateful of women. He appears have a good understanding of inter sexual dynamics and Red Pill. Like Scribb, I have no sympathy for incels who moan about “not getting any”. If they are “genetically challenged”, they need to realise that it is not the fault of women, it was nature which did not bless them with the genetics. That being said, no matter how ugly a male is, he can make his situation better… Read more »
Oscar’s not a virgin. He’s trying to figure out ” normal ” sexuality using his highly analytical mind, and trying to get the dynamics of red pill and game.
He’s nowhere near any kind of incel. Just trying to understand what it is that everyone seems to be thinking/doing/feeling that he’s not.
@oscar Well, more than low energy I would call it apathy… Sport makes me feel better but very temporarily. How long has it been like this though? Being apathetic? But you still have a fair amount of energy? Sounds like that could be a depression problem to me. Does sport make you feel a lot better? It may be the exercise or doing something a bit riskier. Have you gone mountain biking or raced cars? About the things I enjoy doing, well, I guess reading, some gaming (but now much less than before, too apathetic to get into new games)…… Read more »
The Lena Dunham as sexual object thing – that is pretty interesting (to me anyway). Here is what I see: – she is mucho frumpy – yes – she has made a career out of celebrating that frumpiness – yes – she is really quite crazy and not that smart, but has manged to get success nevertheless – yes – she wears the feminine quandary on her sleeve – that being, that she is in throw-down competition with other women with respect to sexual desireability, yet she feels deep fellowship with other women nevertheless – yes – she is extremely… Read more »
Sentient – not sure if that – ‘There will be no miracles here’, was directed my way or not. If so – you are then agreeing with me. Seeking the virtuous life is a very tough row to hoe, much much harder than the average variety of PUA for instance.
scrib knows what he needs to work on and is getting there at his own pace…he’s solid on pickup and political stuff but doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground wrt LTRs.
WildMan is too tame for this blog…he’s long on talk and short on action and too academic.
Oscar is too satisfied with his own lack of performance and too academic.
Not So Wild Man, this song is for you…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI7YzUKE_wI
Let’s get on down
To the main attraction
With a little less talk
And a lot more action
Wildman
Take your Abilify and stop the paranoia. You’ll know if someone wants to engage you in masochistic circuitous nonsense.
@Wild Man: No disrespect, but why are you here on this site? This blog is about understanding inter sexual dynamics and helping men become better men (and as consequence get better at getting women). The readers of this site do not lack virtues, neither are they immoral men because they want to bang hot women. What is wrong if men want to bang hot young women? “Seeking the virtuous life is a very tough row to hoe, much much harder than the average variety of PUA for instance.” And why is it so hard? A virtuous man also has needs… Read more »
asd – not fair, but whatever, life isn’t fair, why would this place be any different. Many here ‘talk’ and post a heck of alot more than me. So what you said is not fair because it is just wrong. Whatever – just throw some shit and see what sticks to the wall. It is a method. Not mine (but of course you are gonna say – ‘oh – yes it is especially your method Wild Man – because all your stuff is shit’ – then you won’t engage as to why it is shit, and maybe even stoop to… Read more »
Make a virtue of Necessity: act in a good or moral way, and perhaps expect praise for this, not because you chose to but because in that particular situation you had no choice. https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/28/virtue/ Rollo: “It’s been my experience that the guys who are the most vocal about the merits of self-esteem and personal integrity trumping sexual experience are generally the same guys who aren’t hooking up with any real frequency anyway. Remember, a sacrifice is only significant when you actually have something relevant to lose. The point these guys like to make are generally based on common truisms that… Read more »
@Wildman: “Why not engage as to sorting out what is what with respect to some of the difference of opinion about core concepts used here . . .”
Because the Osterizer in your brain mangles concepts bi-directionally. If you cannot understand what we are saying or what you are saying, there is no point of engagement and the entire exercise is one of futility.
@Tuffluv – My sexual exploits. I have a very, very high fail rate. The difference is I don’t internalize any of the fails as rejection. Whether a woman wants to fuck me or not has nothing to do with how I feel about myself. It’s just information. I’m at the point where I enjoy flirting and gaming so much, I often don’t even “close”. I just look for signals and play each scenario out in the way I’d like. I get fewer random IOIs, have to work harder for every inch. With these game skills at 40? Lol – I’d… Read more »
@Tuff – Re: “scrib seems to indulge heavily in things he sure professes to hate.” Like what?
@Incubus – Wildman is here to mentally masturbate. The striata in his brain has been grooved with the payoff of larping and posing on the web. He’s like most fucking losers on this world, not even worth pissing on if he was on fire. So don’t bother. He’s not here for an actual purpose, rather his entire engagement here is a buffer for him so he can avoid facing some ugly truths about himself an the world. Don’t try and fix him, most men aren’t worth helping. I only help men who are willing to fucking listen and do what… Read more »
I’ve been thinking about the Shy Boys clip I posted above. The way these guys talk about women and vaginas? Oh boy. Sex is something they may need from time to time (like taking a dump), but it looks like it’s more about finding a soulmate to go through life with (“women don’t like sex anyway”), someone who could bring meaning to their miserable lives. Which means that subconsciously they somewhat know that sex is not their main problem. It’s this empty life with no purpose, no drive and a shitload of issues to disentangle. They think it would be… Read more »
@scribblerg Having a bad day, man? Sorry, not my fault. Nobody is justifying any incel rampage, much less here. Quite the opposite, actually. The point is to understand why this happens. Under the macho posturing you sound like a male feminist. You can live without sex and be happy. I was that way in my teens. I am also never shooting anybody over this. The problem are expectations, and those are social. If I was living in 1900 I would not be suffering like I do. Pride also explains a lot of what happens to me, and it is something… Read more »
Incubus_Rising – thanks for the comment. Here are what I think the misunderstandings may be with respect to your framing of what is going on here: – there is nothing wrong with wanting to bang young hot women. I never said there was. Men are “designed” with that desire encoded – yes? – no argument there. – yes virtues are learned. But virtues are not anchored in the superego though. Virtues are borne of the Reality function like this: “Redpill outlook perhaps (as synonymous with the formation of virtuous character, or ‘masculine principles’) can therefore be seen as ….. ‘a… Read more »
@Scribb: I agree with everything you say. It is very inspirational and I am working towards getting to that state. However, a year ago I too was like Wild Man, coming here in the comments virtue signalling. Then I learnt to shut up and listen to what OMGs are saying and look for proof of that in my past and present experience. With time I am able to think and see more clearly without any buffers / illusions. At some point Wild Man will get tired and stop arguing, and hopefully he will stick around to learn and apply the… Read more »
@Oscar – I’m having an awesome day. And of course, you merely erected a set of straw men and a couple of red herrings in your imbecilic “argument’. Hint: I never said environment doesn’t matter, you man-child. But you should focus on the things you can control, instead of sitting on the sidelines and taking your satisfaction from being right about how fucked up the world is. I’ve got a little newsflash for you, bunky. Most people live in societies and social situations that are poor “environments” and have done so since the dawn of humanity. The measure of a… Read more »
Oscar
“You are of course, dead wrong about the rest. You can only control your actions, but your environment matters. You can be very hardworking, but if your country gets swamped by illegal cheap labor, you are screwed. Micro and macro are equally important. Pulling yourself by your bootstraps only takes you so far.”
Complete bullshit. Screwed? Why not fight them off? Why not move on? Lot’s of options.
But you sit and complain.
“Because the Osterizer in your brain mangles concepts bi-directionally” kfg – your name-calling has a bit more finesse. And I do enjoy that. You are a creative thinker in some ways. Nevertheless, it is still name-calling (and so rather juvenile and weak), because the intent is the same, a way to avoid answering the question I put to asd, but pretending this somehow gives you the upper had I guess? Instead why don’t you try answering the question I most recently put, to asd this time? It is not a hard question Very straightforward in fact. scribblerg – ditto for… Read more »
Wildman fools no one and we refuse to engage a psychotic in his fantasy. The rejection happens to be part of his paranoia, delusions of grandeur. Wildman: “I’ve something important but unknown to the masses. I will bring them good news. Alas, they will Hope being a combination of the desire for something and expectation of receiving it not understand, reject my truths as they cannot see as I. Therefore, I will, no must be rejected.” Jesus Prays at Gethsemane …38Then He said to them, “My soul is consumed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep… Read more »
“the world is more ruthless than I expected.”
Dads… Your obligation to your kids is to ensure that they can never say this.
Incubus_Rising: Your comment: – “As Rollo says, “you are trying to achieve Blue Pill Ideals using Red Pill awareness”. It will never work. Define bluepill/repill differentiation and then we can discuss more if you like (or you can use the differentiation I already provided, as a starting point, if you like – I can post this again, if you like, it is way way upthread – April 24 @7:54 a.m.). Also just as an aside ‘virtue signalling’ and ‘virtue’ mean different things – no? ‘Virtue-signaling’ is meant to mean the behavior of signaling a personal virtue that in fact does… Read more »
Incubus,
In your journey, what was your distinct inflection point swallowing the RP?
Mine was me waffling here at TRM between Alpha 1.0 lots of sex but still fighting her until HABD jabbed me with “You wrote this to help us? You should be helping yourself.”
That got me off my liminal-spaced ass.
@hank Thanks for the info on the supplements, I will look into it. Apathy comes and goes, but what is for sure is that I had not experienced something like this previously. I work out and lift regularly -I am in the best shape of my life, today I benched pressed my weight- so it is a bit of a paradox. I am getting my T results soon. I have friends. I have always had them. Trust me, shyness is not my problem. I just dislike the club environment. I do my best to suppress that but it is hard.… Read more »
I’m sounding more like Wildman than I’d like…corr3ction:
Wildman: “I’ve something important but unknown to the masses. I will bring them good news. Alas, they reject my truths as they cannot see as I. Therefore, I will, no must, be rejected.”
@Incubus_Rising
Ref:
“Define bluepill/repill differentiation and then we can discuss more if you like (or you can use the differentiation I already provided, as a starting point, if you like – I can post this again, if you like, it is way way upthread”
It’s a trap! Do not engage.
Wild Man is just another post-modern, internationalist, SJW coming to feed his ego by scoring brownie points with the ‘oppressors’ and confuse the newly unplugged with his b.s.
Stay on target.
Engaging Wildman is as texting on the toilet. You’re going to give everyone pinkeye.
Wildman, Define bluepill/repill differentiation and then we can discuss more if you like (or you can use the differentiation I already provided, as a starting point, if you like – I can post this again, if you like, it is way way upthread – April 24 @7:54 a.m.). You HAVE read the best of TRM (link at top of page) already, right? There you should have already found the definition of both BP “old books” and RP praexology, as the rest of us here have done as well. From there, it is a personal, internal journey to deduce the differences… Read more »
Sorry CNM and Eh, I was typing as you posted. In hindsight, all I really should have asked wildman was the very last question, because he is going to explain to us non-virtuous types how that doesn’t matter to a virtuous man.
Oscar C. I never expected to bang Victoria Secret models, but as it turns out even average girls are not easy… at all! I know by now you are thinking I am very retarded socially, but I don’t think it is the case. Not sexual perhaps, and that is what I am working on. Oscar, what is it that you want to accomplish? Can you see any steps that get you closer to that state? You’ve been posting meandering inside-your-head comments here for over a year, is there anything that you have improved in that time or is it all… Read more »
Oscar, By the way, if you detect serious mistakes in my writing, please tell me. It is always appreciated. Before you posted that, I was thinking how your writing was noticeably improved, with a broader, more nuanced use of vocabulary to communicate some very subtle distinctions in thoughts and feelings. You’re obviously a very smart man and doing well in polishing your English writing skills. Now, if you would only stop worrying what everyone else thinks of you, especially girls and other young studs getting more pussy than you, you would be well on your way to a better life.… Read more »
There Will Be No Miracles Here… Oscar, can you even conceive of a Juan Badel??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kbeaIYj0Ug http://www.spyderclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14856 Aluminum car Postby danstern » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:54 pm Here is a strange one on eBay. All aluminum, mid-engined, cheap, and strange! http://www.ebay.com/itm/281174592335?ss … 1423.l2648 Dan Quantum Mechanic, Black Holes refilled, Quarks repaired Vintage #74, 2109cc User avatar danstern $$Donating Member$$ $$Donating Member$$ Posts: 1133 Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:44 pm Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Re: Aluminum car Postby JuanB » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:29 am Hello Dan, I am Juan Badel, the builder of the car you mention.… Read more »
dang link mod got me…
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Pop quiz. Not naming any names, just asking. Choose one and only one answer. If you were caught in a burning building you would: A. Look for a fire extinguisher and a way out; B. Ponder the unfairness of the situation in a deep and personal way while congratulating yourself on your own imminent self-sacrifice; C. Write an essay on the proper, virtuous way to respond to a building fire while also working on heat-transfer equations to derive a unified, perfect model of a building fire that could be used to teach others how to properly act in case of… Read more »
B – no? A? – no?…Waait a minute….is this a trick question?
@oscar Apathy comes and goes, but what is for sure is that I had not experienced something like this previously. Alright. We are getting somewhere now. Can you pinpoint when you started to feel apathetic? What did you do when you were not apathetic. Jot down what a day was like for you then, as opposed to now. Since apathy is the reason you site for not pushing further on girls, it stands to reason that fixing your apathy will fix (or help to fix) your issues with girls. I work out and lift regularly -I am in the best… Read more »