Weekend Interviews

So I had the pleasure of speaking not only with Mark Baxter once again, but also Carl from Black Label Logic. If you’re not familiar with Carl you really ought to (he’s on my blogroll links on the sidebar). Between he and Illimitable Men these men have become Red Pill staples for a couple of years for me now. I wont spoil the interview for you, but Mark is a master of digging through my backlog of posts and hitting me with some unexpected and fresh questions. We get back to red pill 101 covering topics like Buffers and abundance. It’s about two solid hours of great Red Pill fundamentals.

Have a listen here.

Next up, I did an interview with entrepreneur, and fellow 21 Convention speaker, Richard Cooper about 3 weeks ago.

Richard hit me up almost a couple of months prior to this after making a hard Red Pill unplugging himself and made my books the focus of that in one of his YouTube videos. I’ll have to say Richard’s interview style is very personal and I get into some personal background with him here. I generally try to stay on Red Pill point, but Richard likes to dig deep here. Be forewarned, I was coming back from some allergies and using Skype from my laptop for this, so if the audio’s not great, hopefully the content is worth it. After this interview and looking into Richard’s other videos I suggested to Anthony Johnson that he’d be a good inclusion at the 21 Convention and I’m happy to say he’s onboard for this year.

And finally, Anthony from the 21 Convention has remastered the audio from our interview from last week, complete with show notes and links. You can listen here.

Hopefully that’s not too much of my voice for the weekend. For what it’s worth, I’m toying with the idea of starting a YouTube channel myself, but I’m not sure my schedule these days would make it anything more than an occasional thing. But, let me know if you think that might be a good idea.

Also, let me know if you have any questions about anything I cover in these, or feel free to start a discussion thread about any topic from these interviews.

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@Rollo

Buffers.

I remember you saying, on a few occasions, that online dating is one of the biggest buffers that many guys use when it comes to meeting women (myself included).

Do you still hold that belief?

PS Mark, Carl, and Illman are great additions to the community.

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kfg
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kfg

” . . . online dating . . .”

. . . is, at best, an oxymoron and at its core is founded on the idea that desire can be negotiated by mail. The fact that it’s even a thing is an indicator that something has gone very, very wrong with society.

Sentient
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Sentient

ha ha… just got the BOR reference…

stuttie
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@D

I agree with KFG and will add that online dating merely is a validation side project for women, and an exercise in futility for men.

ollieoxenfree1
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The Richard Copper interview was compelling. A good interviewer allows for a good discussion and Cooper did just this. He asked pertinent questions in a succinct manner. Rollo was both erudite and sincere in his responses. When given the opportunity he really explores his ideas and the body of work, he’s created. A lot was discussed, though I’d like to highlight the MRA part of the interview. My disdain for the MRA lies in the fact, I think, if given the chance to start over. They would (to a man) make the same mistakes. Nothing about them suggests they’ve learnt… Read more »

Radawn
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Radawn

Be careful not to water yourself down rollo 🙁

The mark baxter guy seems very blue / purple pill – how marriage and christianity can be red pill is beyond me.

theasdgamer
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@Radawn

how marriage and christianity can be red pill is beyond me.

not surprising

theasdgamer
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@kfg ” . . . online dating . . .” . . . is, at best, an oxymoron and at its core is founded on the idea that desire can be negotiated by mail. The fact that it’s even a thing is an indicator that something has gone very, very wrong with society. I have no ox to grind wrt online dating…just analyzing… Can men DHV online? Social proofs? Can men do a youtube of themselves? Party pics? Can men present a profile of Preselection? (I just alliterated all over myself. I hate it when that happens!) Have any romances… Read more »

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@kfg “”online dating . . .” . . . is, at best, an oxymoron and at its core is founded on the idea that desire can be negotiated by mail” That’s an interesting way of putting it. I like it. @stuttie “I agree with KFG and will add that online dating merely is a validation side project for women, and an exercise in futility for men.” You’re not wrong. I’ve had good online dating experiences so I don’t think it’s a complete, “exercise in futility”. But these days I don’t use it. That time is now better spent on my… Read more »

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Yollo Comanche

I don’t remember who posted it, but I have a new favorite word; “Child-snatching clown”.

kfg
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kfg

“Have any romances been conducted by snail mail in the past?”

Pseudo-romances, yes. Romances, no. Interacting with bits of symbolized paper is not the same as interacting with a person. It’s mental masterbation, truly fucking with your own mind, building a delusional relationship. Printing up piles of fiat social currency with nothing behind it to give it value.

The Game is a type of social dance. Can you dance by mail?

“Dear Miss X,

Put your right foot in, take your left foot out and I shall convey my steps to you.”

orion
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orion

I do believe. whether you should do a Youtube channel, with all the demonetization drama that happened lately, depends on one factor and one factor only.

Do you wish to shift to making that whole “Rational Male” thing a significant source of your income or not.

If so, it might be worth a try.

If not, you have given enough already.

You have your blog, you have your very affordable books, anyone with a modicum of drive and ambition can access your ideas.

You cannot reach everyone, but you can burn out trying….

Cannot save them all.

Roused
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Roused

kfg May 5, 2017 at 12:52 pm ” . . . online dating . . .” . . . is, at best, an oxymoron and at its core is founded on the idea that desire can be negotiated by mail. The fact that it’s even a thing is an indicator that something has gone very, very wrong with society.” I have to disagree with some of this take on online dating. Is it a way for women to validate? Yes. Is it entirely flawed for men? Hell no. My own personal experience with online dating proved to be eye opening… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“It gives men the ability to vet women virtually . . .”

Exactly the point.

Radawn
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Radawn

To “Theasdgamer”: I’m genuinely interested how and why you think I’m wrong. This is meant to be a rational discussion rather than emotional (clue is in Rollo’s site name). Red Pill means how the world really works, not how we’d like it to work. Please can you explain these facts in terms of “Red Pill marriage” or “Red Pill religion”. Or link me to Rollo articles…. 1. Humans are not monogamous. 2. Women have lovers and providers (dual mating strategy). 3. Marriage is a relatively recent social construct to fit an ideology 4. Religious ideologies are stories created by humans… Read more »

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@Radawn 1. Humans are not monogamous. Naturally, no, not monogamous. Agreed. However, people can be trained to be monogamous. 2. Women have lovers and providers (dual mating strategy). Agreed. 3. Marriage is a relatively recent social construct to fit an ideology Yeah, it’s recent. Mankind is recent. Good point. 3. Religious ideologies are stories created by humans (that try to tame biology) More like religious constraints are aimed at improving our reproductive strategies. STDs don’t assist reproduction. Rather, they hinder it. I don’t see where “stories” enters into the discussion. Marriage is 100% provider. Says who? Are you seriously asserting… Read more »

Radawn
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Radawn

@theasdgamer

Human civilisation is a thin veneer on evolutionary biology that is millions of years old. Those “rules” you suggest don’t last long when it comes to foraging, fighting and fucking.

The Red Pill is about reproductive biological truths. These are feral. Wild. Raw. Uncomfortable. The jock guy Chad fucking 100s of groupies….that’s real. The pool boy fucking the bored housewife….that’s real.

To deny evolution and biology is to do what SJWs and “nurture not nature” feminists are doing. How can you support this?

kfg
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kfg

POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW 33(2): 321–365 (JUNE 2007)
Longevity Among Hunter-Gatherers:
A Cross-Cultural Examination

http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/faculty/gurven/papers/GurvenKaplan2007pdr.pdf

I wonder how civilization as she is now spoke would fare in comparison if we included deliberate, pre-natal termination of life into the life expectancy equation.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

” Marriage is 100% provider. You can see it as prostitution (We sign contract. I give you resources. You give me sexual exclusivity). ”

Lol…. I guess that’s one way to do it. It’s wrong as fuck, but it’s a way.

kfg
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kfg

“To deny evolution and biology . . .”

The realm of Religion does not inherently deny either biology or evolution. Civic restrictions on sexual behavior are not promoted on the basis of denial, but rather on acknowledgement.

Strictures are not needed except where people will behave outside of the desired strictures. There are laws against theft and murder because people steal and murder.

Radawn
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Radawn

@blaximus

How is marriage not being a provider? How is marriage being the alpha lover? Does she feel that animalistic sex drive with her husband?! Lol

Radawn
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Radawn

@kfg

Biology doesn’t give a damn about “civic restrictions”… basic genetic theory will tell you genes don’t give a damn about “the good of the species.”

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Joe Novick

Get a YouTube channel. It is the education center (replacing universities) of the future. If anyone wants to find a bigger more passionate audience for their work, YouTube is where you want to be. On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:17 PM, The Rational Male wrote: > Rollo Tomassi posted: ” So I had the pleasure of speaking not only with > Mark Baxter once again, but also Carl from Black Label Logic. If you’re not > familiar with Carl you really ought to (he’s on my blogroll links on the > sidebar). Between he and Illimitable Men these men… Read more »

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kfg

“Biology doesn’t give a damn about “civic restrictions”…”

Again, that is why there are civic restrictions. Civic restrictions are imposed in the expectation that people will not follow them.

OT in a nutshell:

1. PRINT ” I have given you a paradise flowing with milk and honey in which you may dwell forever so long as you follow these strictures”
2. THE PEOPLE promptly break the strictures
3. GOTO 1

In pagan pantheons even the gods are liable to meet their dooms by their own hands, by breaking the strictures.

theasdgamer
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Human civilisation is a thin veneer on evolutionary biology that is millions of years old. I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn that is millions of years old that I can let you have for a steep discount. The Red Pill is about reproductive biological truths. Naah, it’s just about truth. These are feral. Wild. Try taking someone’s life around the cops and let’s see how your feral shit holds up. Those “rules” you suggest don’t last long when it comes to foraging, fighting and fucking. The prisons are filled with feral beasts. I don’t see a lot of success there.… Read more »

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@kfg

I wonder how civilization as she is now spoke would fare in comparison if we included deliberate, pre-natal termination of life into the life expectancy equation.

Abortion is basically a special case of murder being tolerated. I don’t see abortion as a problem for civilization, but for lawless groups.

Radawn
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Radawn

I thought this website and Rollo’s books were about uncomfortable truths. Not hiding them in “let’s hold hands, pray to Jesus and be good to our wives” vanilla crap.

How can a married guy be a player??!

The blue pill / purple pill oozes out of this comment section.

kfg
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kfg

“No one is denying evolution and biology.”

Speaking as an atheist – the most common dialectical failure of atheists is erecting strawmen to knock down. I wish they would cut it out. In order to effectively argue against any position you must first honestly understand and represent it.

Otherwise those who do understand will recognize you for the dissembling fool you are.

kfg
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kfg

“I thought this website and Rollo’s books were about uncomfortable truths.”

If there are no supernatural forces at work in the world, all the behaviours of man are natural.

All of them. Even the ones you don’t like and think ought not to be.

“How can a married guy be a player??!”

By playing? Do the questions get any harder as they go along?

Blaximus
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Blaximus

@ Radawn What’s with all of this ” lets hold hands ” stuff? ” How is marriage not being a provider? How is marriage being the alpha lover? Does she feel that animalistic sex drive with her husband?! Lol” You didn’t say marriage was about being a provider originally. You said marriage was about being 100% provider. There’s a difference. You are talking about the Beta/Blue Pill idea of marriage. Not everyone follows and submits to that ( I know I don’t ). There’s doing it correctly, then there’s the Blue way. The uncomfortable truths… you seem to misunderstand. The… Read more »

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Radawn

@kfg

– Can a guy who believes in a wizard-in-the-sky religion really also understand the truths of Darwinian evolution?

– Why is a married man not a provider? Does he accept Rollo’s views on the dual mating strategy (i.e. his wife fantasises about / seeks a lover)?

– Which guy do women prefer sexually – the bad boy in jail or the christian guy in church?

– Which is the better sexual strategy for men – to be single and sleep with 100 girls or to be married and sleep with one? How is monogamy better in terms of selfish gene theory?

Radawn
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Radawn

@blaximus

Desire cannot be negotiated. A guy who intellectually rationalises why he “gets” the RP is meaningless to a girl’s tingles.

I wish Rollo would point me to some articles if I’ve got it all completely wrong. The “asdgamer” guy seems to think he’s some sort of Teacher’s Pet or Rollo mouthpiece without actually pointing me to Rollo material that would correct my thinking.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

…. and if you took the knucklehead driving 100 mph on the freeway, and placed him in an Indy car, he would crash and burn in the first turn before ever reaching 220 mph.

And everyone would agree that driving Indy cars is deadly and dangerous.

Everyone except the other true Indy drivers that is.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3WqDnD6GSs&w=1280&h=720%5D

kfg
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kfg

“– Can a guy who believes in a wizard-in-the-sky religion really also understand the truths of Darwinian evolution?” You are strawmaning. Nobody has brought up a wizard in the sky but yourself and a wizard in the sky is not an inherent aspect of Religion. However, there are many people who profess belief in God(tm) who are evolutionary biologists. Your conflation of Religion with Christianity and conflation of Christianity with Biblical Literalism is dishonest. “– Why is a married man not a provider?” No one has claimed that a married man is not a provider, although such is certainly not… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“I wish Rollo would point me to some articles if I’ve got it all completely wrong.”

You are not completely wrong, but your emotional response is preventing you from being more correct.

Radawn
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Radawn

@kfg

Intellectual posturing is a smoke screen for avoiding my very rational questions. I’ll wait until someone links me to Rollo material rather than this keyboard philosophical gymnastics which is just deflecting my questions about the biology of the Red Pill.

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“– Can a guy who believes in a wizard-in-the-sky religion really also understand the truths of Darwinian evolution?” Wow I know a guy that literally believes the bible to the point that earth was created in 6 days some 4000 years ago.All fossil evidence and carbon dating is just misinterpreting false evidence to make it agree with your theory and we live in a patriarchal society where women are oppresed. Also we can all live in harmony,religion and politics should be intertwined and peace on earth good will toward man is possible if we just impeach Trump. While I don’t… Read more »

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@ Radawn

” Intellectual posturing is a smoke screen for avoiding my very rational questions. I’ll wait until someone links me to Rollo material rather than this keyboard philosophical gymnastics which is just deflecting my questions about the biology of the Red Pill.”

Yeah, because we don’t know shit.

stuffinbox
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Monogamy is selfish in that it is likely the only thing that has kept from getting STI’s.Plus I get a higher % chance of having an influence on my childrens outlook.

kfg
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kfg

“Intellectual posturing . . . ”

Well, we wouldn’t want any of that over intellectual questions, now would we? Much better to Monkey Dance posture.

” . . . the biology of the Red Pill . . .”

. . . is biology. Simple enough.

Radawn
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Radawn

Still waiting for biology / Rollo references for the following:

– Humans are monogamous
– Christianity is true
– Women prefer Nice Guys
– Casual sex is wrong
– Just Be Yourself

….and all the other blue pill posturing on here. Have you guys learnt nothing from Rollo??!!

Blaximus
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Blaximus

” – Humans are monogamous
– Christianity is true
– Women prefer Nice Guys
– Casual sex is wrong
– Just Be Yourself”

What?? Lmao.

Who said any of this shit?

Yo man, the archives await you. You seriously need to go do some reading. But at least you’re steadfast in your misunderstanding of what you think is being said.

Good for you.

stuffinbox
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For the most part Rollos writing’s are inclusive to differing beliefs and as one gains in experience the writings gain in meaning.

Anyone looking for a dogmatic indoctrination of stone tablets will be disapointed.

Radawn
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Radawn

Can anyone who’s a long time blog reader of Rollo link some of his posts which explain how marriage / religion can be Red Pill. I genuinely want to know more about this.

“The archives await you” is dodging the question. Come on married guys / church-goers….. just one link about how girls get tingles for the faithful husband…

God bless 😉

kfg
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kfg

@Radawn:

Can you define marriage?

stuffinbox
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This is some silly shit.

“– Humans are monogamous
– Christianity is true
– Women prefer Nice Guys
– Casual sex is wrong
– Just Be Yourself”

Should be
– Humans are monogamous in a successful civilized society.
– Christianity is true,especially to a guy that has had Jesus save his ass numerous times.
– Women prefer Nice Guys that pay all the bills.
– Casual sex is wrong if it throws your back out of place.
– Just Be Yourself if your a highly accomplished individual past the age of 55.

There fixed it for me.

stuffinbox
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@Rad dawn

Have you read this?

https://therationalmale.com/2015/11/03/christian-dread/

stuffinbox
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Did i shoot five shots or six?

Blaximus
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Blaximus

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stuffinbox
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Ju got it mon.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

I think Radawn’s definition of marriage is the spitting image of scray’s, Mr. ” Promise Monogamy “.

A man gets married so he can have steady sex, and he will provide in order to do so. If there’s no such thing as ” Negotiating Desire “, then marriage is a foolish scam that no man could ever possibly undertake unless he is full blown beta/blue pill.

Because alpha’s never, ever get married under any circumstances.

…. we’ve been ( painfully ) down this crooked, broken glass filled road before.

stuffinbox
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“…. we’ve been ( painfully ) down this crooked, broken glass filled road before.”

Misty water color memories…….

Ya it all started out with the blue pill provider meme.
Anyone knows that providing has nothing to do with pills,this is just some punk trying to rationalize non support.

Roused
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Roused

“I wish Rollo would point me to some articles if I’ve got it all completely wrong. The “asdgamer” guy seems to think he’s some sort of Teacher’s Pet or Rollo mouthpiece without actually pointing me to Rollo material that would correct my thinking.”

Dude, do you think we’re your bitches or what? You’ve heard of Google, right?

Look up the material yourself. You know how to work a keyboard. Quit asking others to do your work. Just a hint, start with year one. If you didn’t come off as a total dick guys would be helping you out.

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

stuffinbox, I am triggered! Oh, so triggered!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqgGihIfq5U

Bonus: “what do they want?” “A car.” “What are you gonna do?”

“Give them one.”

theasdgamer
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@Radawn

I recommend the Song of Solomon for careful examination. You will find Red Pill truths in there like:

1. Preselection

2. The beautiful woman chases the alpha man.

3. The beautiful woman wants sex with the alpha man.

4. Double entendres are perfectly acceptable in religious society.

You know, someone might think that I had done a series of posts on this topic.

theasdgamer
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Radawn maybe thinks that Christianity has an Eleventh Commandment:

Commandment 11. Thou shalt not commit Dread against thy wife.

Maybe a 12th…

Commandment 12. Thou shalt not flirt with other women.

theasdgamer
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@Blax

Because alpha’s never, ever get married under any circumstances.

I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, you can’t prove anything.

Yeah, for thousands of years, pre-No Fault Divorce, alphas didn’t marry. The world as it is is as it ever was. 🙂

Blaximus
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Blaximus

@ AR Funny how things change. Or maybe not (? ). My dad took me to the local drive in to see every Clint Eastwood movie for as long as I can remember. I was about 10 when Dirty Harry came out. We’d go, just him and I, and get popcorn and hotdogs and milkshakes. No one ever said anything about him taking me to see such ” violent ” movies or anything. I was 5 or 6 when my all time favorite, The Good The Bad and The Ugly came out. I loved it so much he took me… Read more »

stuffinbox
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@AR

This one gets me ROFLMFAO every time,some things don’t get old.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwLesQCx9FE&w=560&h=315%5D

SJF
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SJF

LOL at Rawdawn. I’m sure that cognitive bias of yours really helps your heuristics. (What’s your narrative?) The Unbearable Triteness of Hating: 1. Old Married Monogamous blogger Writer/Commenter Hate No man could ever be happy with having gotten married to a wonderfully feminine girl 27 years ago, raise children with her, avoid terminal Betatization and actually feel comfortable with his biology. No way, no how. And what about the $500,000 dollars you spent on the wife and mid twenty year old children, in the last 25 years. Holy fuck that is going to leave a big mark. Cause males weren’t… Read more »

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SJF

Radawn May 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm @theasdgamer Human civilisation is a thin veneer on evolutionary biology that is millions of years old. Those “rules” you suggest don’t last long when it comes to foraging, fighting and fucking. The Red Pill is about reproductive biological truths. These are feral. Wild. Raw. Uncomfortable. The jock guy Chad fucking 100s of groupies….that’s real. The pool boy fucking the bored housewife….that’s real. To deny evolution and biology is to do what SJWs and “nurture not nature” feminists are doing. How can you support this? Rollo advocates for watching what biological imperatives are manifest… Read more »

SJF
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SJF

What the hell was going on there with Black Label Logic’s voice in the Mark Baxter Podcast?

Secrecy to avoid doxxing as Karl from SlingBlade voice modulator (my theory)?

If that is his real voice? It is still lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv6KFRleUG0

@4:00 moment: is Religion a bad thing

@6:25 eye contact.

Notice how Billy Bob Thornton speaks. Directly. It is interesting how direct it actually is.

kfg
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kfg

“Your mistake is in thinking biological truths allow you to disallow socialized conventional rules.”

A biological truth is that it is perfectly normal human behaviour for a mob to form and beat the crap out of anyone who violates tribal social norms.

SJF
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SJF

“A biological truth is that it is perfectly normal human behavior for a mob to form and beat the crap out of anyone who violates tribal social norms.” Back in the old days, tribes of humans happened to be small over a long period of time. They worked to secure proliferation and extension of tribal genes and population. But the groups were small. Perhaps numbering 75 humans. Back then, if you were a dick at the dinner party, or in your service and honor among men in the realm of the tribe, you’d pretty much be kicked out and suffer… Read more »

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Radawn

Listened to the podcast in full and read the Christian Dread article. That table given by @sjf was very clear too. As Rollo says in that table, an alpha guy “retains independence, women are a utility to him, accommodating to self.” Married with 2.4 kids, a white picket fence, 1950s America….that’s all classic Disney idealistic blue pill ideals where you’re in HER frame. As the article said, marriage came about as an attempt to “control hypergamy” and “help betas through a religious / social construct” The Feminine Imperative delights at most of the comments to my questions. What you guys… Read more »

walawala
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walawala

At 38:00 the assessment of The Game author Neil Strauss is fascinating. The need to internalize all this Red Pill theory and PUA techniques is critical to moving towards the alpha mindset.

Radawn
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Radawn

I have made a rewrite of the Iron Rules Of Tomassi for the blue pill commentator club on here…

1) Get married. It’s the best way to control women.
2) Believe in God. Do the right thing. Or you’ll be punished.
3) Fight to save civilisation for the good of the tribe
4) Casual non-monogamous sex is sinful and wrong. Stop it.

Hang on….that sounds like the Muslim code of conduct!

Please Rollo, don’t become a blue pill guy like Neil Strauss of Roosh 😉

theasdgamer
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@Radawn

You are quickly losing all credibility here. Lots of strawmanning and MSU (making shit up). Pretty soon everyone will tell you to fuck off. Be warned.

SJF
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SJF

@WRaydown https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/18/are-you-experienced/comment-page-9/#comment-164864 BluePillProfessor (July 29, 2016 at 9:52 am) Big Al- I am happy you are participating in MRP but you may have missed the point and inadvertently given support to many “anti-MRP” Red Pillers. One of the main objections to MRP from Red Pill Guys is that it gives young men the idea that it can work so why not? Married Red Pill provides an excuse to get married and ignore the entire thrust of the Red Pill!! That is not, and never was the intention of Married Red Pill. We are ALREADY married and are making the best… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

@radawn

Keep goin’ lad, it’s good to see someone challenging the regular arse lickers on here like @theasdgamer and @sjf. They think it’s a closed club for the boys. Very cult like. And I agree that marriage and churchgoing is anti red pill.

stuffinbox
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@Radawn

I just love to see a young man full of himself.So you get it women love oportunisticaly,they don’t nescessarily lust for nice guys see AF/BB.
I regret that after you gain in experience with women,I may not be there to see you reconsider your stance.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Engaged a couple of time, eh? That helps give some perspective to your views. So you think that because you experienced an awakening, everyone else here is still sleeping. I will tell you the same things I’ve said in the massive discussions that we’ve already had concerning marriage, which is for you to do whatever you want to do and do whatever your ability and limitations allow. The revelation that you can have ‘ casual sex ‘ with many women is new to you. In the years I’ve been here reading and commenting I’ve not heard anyone campaign against multiple… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“– You can’t violate tribal rules . . .” I would not be just a nothin’ My head all full of stuffin’ My heart all full of pain . . . You’d really be getting along much better here and find there are those in considerable agreement with you, if you could just stop all the chest poking and obvious dishonesty. What purpose do you think it serves you? “– Read the Bible . . .” Have you? The evidence suggests that you haven’t, because your criticisms appear to be arse pulled to anyone who has. “– In a civilised… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

@Radawn: ” I’m 32, been engaged a couple of times but for the last 3 years since reading Rollo’s books . . . ”

Is this period of time in which your realized your Christian church socialization was part of the Matrix?

theasdgamer
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Peanut Gallery: “Bravo, Radawn. You’re kicking arse.”

Radawn
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Radawn

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

It seems @theasdgamer, @kfg and the rest of the brady bunch are easily triggered haha. They certainly don’t like younger guys having their say.

Still looking forward to all those Rollo post links about how beta Christian married men give hot women tingles….

One….just one….

😉

stuffinbox
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” Fight to save civilisation for the good of the tribe . . . ” There are aspects of civilization I’m not particularly keen on. On the other hand, I’m rather fond of bicycles, smooth paved roads to ride them on, public libraries and all that goes with them and the Internet and all that goes with it. I’d like to preserve them, for the good of myself. The tribe kinda goes along for the ride. A biological truth is that man did not evolve to be an effective lone wolf (and neither did wolves for that matter), and if… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

@Radawn: “It seems @theasdgamer, @kfg and the rest of the brady bunch are easily triggered haha. They certainly don’t like younger guys having their say.”

The answer would appear to be “no.”

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Don’t use youth and lack of experience and understanding as an excuse.

stuffinbox
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Someone posted a clip of a muslim omg with 13 wives or more leaning on a cane and laughing at the interviewer that was mono.

This made me think that all the millenial age muslim men were of the track and left the women behind to the old man’s care. Barbarism

I feel the need to pay close attention to puerto rico in the next few years as this may hold prophetic.

Radawn
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Radawn

I’ll be at the 21 Convention to see Rollo talk.

Will @kgf, @theasdgamer and @blaximus be there with their wives and kids?

And guys…it’s Sunday…shouldn’t you be on your way to church?

stuffinbox
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@Radawn

“I’ll be at the 21 Convention to see Rollo talk.

Will @kgf, @theasdgamer and @blaximus be there with their wives and kids?

And guys…it’s Sunday…shouldn’t you be on your way to church?”

If these guys don’t make it I’ll be there as proxy,look me up I’ll buy you a beer.

My grandpa went to church,the first time they threw water on him,the second time they threw rice on him and the last time they threw dirt on him. Nobodys seen him since,thats why I don’t go where people are always throwing stuff at me.

theasdgamer
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Still looking forward to all those Rollo post links about how beta Christian married men give hot women tingles…. Well, being married is beta by Vox’s definition…Vox bases his definition on a demographic. But Rollo asserts, “Alpha is a mindset, not a demographic.” It seems to me that Rollo’s definition of beta is not being able to set and maintain your frame; alphas maintain frame; betas capitulate to the frame of others. So we get a wide variety of what makes a man Alpha – he’s the guy of high moral character, princely ambition and integrity, as well as the… Read more »

kfg
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theasdgamer
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There are other links to pertinent info at Rollo’s blog, including: https://therationalmale.com/tag/alpha-male/ @kfg @Blaximus @all I think that what is driving Radawn is the fear that he can’t perform in a marriage and make it a success. He feels threatened by those of us with successful (so far!) marriages. Radawn needs to face his demons. Otherwise he will become the stereotypical man that women talk about who is aged and unmarried…a lonely old man. You can be single and old and not be lonely, but not if you don’t face those demons. Radawn must be the man who could make… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

@Radawn: “Will @kgf, @theasdgamer and @blaximus be there with their wives and kids?
And guys…it’s Sunday…shouldn’t you be on your way to church?”

Do you even read the comments you “respond” to? This is just plain trolling.

theasdgamer
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@Radawn

I was enjoying the company of beautiful women last night. I danced with a shit-ton of them. One girl engaged me in convo as I was passing her table, “I see you dancing with a lot of women. You are very smooth.”

There was a bouncer at my bar who has avoided me in the past. I was able to engage him in convo and give him social proof and we are now on Ok terms.

So, I am a beta loser because I’m married and Christian. Lol Whatever floats your boat.

SJF
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SJF

Rad-yawn What’s your problem? https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/26/whats-your-problem/ ….It really is a matter of life or death sometimes. Understanding Game, for lack of a better term, how and why it functions, is literally a survival skill. Think about the importance of the decisions we make based on uninquisitive, flimsy and misdirected presumption we have been conditioned to believe about love, gender, sex, relationships, etc. Think about the life impact that these decisions have not only on ourselves, but our families, the children that result from them, and every other domino that falls as a repercussion. We rarely stop to think about how our… Read more »

anon
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anon

kfg: “You’d really be getting along much better here and find there are those in considerable agreement with you, if you could just stop all the chest poking and obvious dishonesty. What purpose do you think it serves you?”

Keyboard chest poking and dishonesty might be the only avenue available to raise his T level. In which case it serves a purpose of sorts.
Minter’s Law applies.

scribblerg
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scribblerg

A field report of sorts… So, my old guy strategy has been to find hot sluts under 30 who click with my older guy alpha vibe. As an interesting aside, I recently found out that there are some girls identify as “sapiophiles”, and my on again/off again hb9 project is one. She submits to me for my mind. It’s so interesting with her, she became red pill on her own, via Reddit and other places online. I began explaining to her why she’s losing her mind at 29 after riding the cock carousel so hard. Even shared this with her.… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

@Scribbler: “I also hate this society, just being in it and watching it circle the bowl causes me existential angst.”

We hadn’t noticed.

“Going straight to the boat now. Live super cheap until I buy the bluewater cruiser that suits me, move aboard and live on it until I can untie from the dock permanently.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lK4LrD8Ii4

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scribblerg
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scribblerg

@KFG – What’s with the “we”, have you got a mouse in your pocket or something? Was there an election making you a spokesmen for others here? Or do you just enjoy pretending you have authority you don’t possess? Fyi, my derisive comments here all stand. Not seeing the central role of the Left in bringing about the femcentric social order, and the pseudo-intellectuality of much of the alt right are huge issues. Sure, Voxday has some great insights, but when you put his worldview under a microscope, there are serious holes. In many ways these guys don’t get the… Read more »

Shiva
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Shiva

“What I want has become even clearer too. It’s femininity, and sweetness and gentleness and sensitivity. I want to be depended on, and listened to as well. I want a woman who takes great pleasure in making a home and supporting me. I probably won’t find it, but at least now i know what i’m looking for. And I also know how to settle and get some dirty sex here and there, which isn’t bad. As long as I don’t try and turn that into a love story, which is what the blue pill would always have me do. I… Read more »

stuffinbox
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@Scribbler
Reap it!

kfg
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kfg

“Fyi, my derisive comments here all stand.”

We hadn’t noticed.

“This seems to dissatisfy alt righters . . .”

How are they dissatisfied with it without getting that that’s what they are dissatisfied with?

“Vox and Spencer want to roll back to feudal times, essentially.”

Don’t tell me. Tell them. Seriously, I would like to see that discussion, if you are capable of conducting yourself in such a discussion.

IAS
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IAS

@Scribblerg: beware the desire of achieving a blue pill goal with RP awareness. It can’t work. You can’t go back.

theasdgamer
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@scrib

If your HB9 wants to recover, she needs some time not being around men where she can think things through…a sojourn in a convent for a year might be the thing.

EhIntellect
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“Which guy do women prefer sexually – the bad boy in jail or the christian guy in church?”

Are these my only 2 choices? Aw, hell.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Guys should never volunteer themselves in service of broken broads, regardless of their ( bullshit and worthless ) ‘ HB ‘ rating. I’ve always posited that it’s a form of destructive pedestalization for all but the most RP versed and game savvy.

Actions ( should ) have consequences. It’s not up to men to help or save hoes. A carousel riding 9 is still just another hoe at the end of the day. Feeling awful about stupid, fucked up choices is normal, and you can’t fix normal.

This is the beta/blue pill work of the FI in all of it’s glory.