Ghosting

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Lately I’ve been refocusing my take on the process of mens’ unplugging and dealing with a new Red Pill informed way of living. The Gamer Girls post, while intentionally light reading (for TRM), was really a side of things I’ve wanted to explore for a bit now.

As most of my readers know I make efforts not to be prescriptive in what I write. I realize there’s going to be bias involved in any observed process, but as I’ve stated on this blog and in my books, applying the Red Pill isn’t one size fits all. While the truth of Red Pill awareness is universally understandable, the application of it needs an individualized approach.

I don’t sell sunshine and rainbows here. You wont find deliberately inspirational reheated Zig Ziglar quotes you can frame in some motivational poster. Anyone doing so has a business based on it. What you will get here is unvarnished, un-sugar coated Red Pill awareness that is actionable in ways you choose to leverage it. My intent is not to make you a better man, but to have you make you a better man, and I trust you to be intelligent enough to make the best decisions for yourself based on your new awareness.

As I stated in The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill,…

The truth will set you free, but it doesn’t make truth hurt any less, nor does it make truth any prettier, and it certainly doesn’t absolve you of the responsibilities that truth requires. One of the biggest obstacles guys face in unplugging is accepting the hard truths that Game forces upon them. Among these is bearing the burden of realizing what you’ve been conditioned to believe for so long were comfortable ideals and loving expectations are really liabilities.

At it’s most distilled, the Red Pill is a Praxeology (h/t SJF):

Praxeology is the study of those aspects of human action that can be grasped a priori; in other words, it is concerned with the conceptual analysis and logical implications of preference, choice, means-end schemes, and so forth.

Praxeologyis the deductive study of human action based on the notion that humans engage in purposeful behavior, as opposed to reflexive behavior like sneezing and inanimate behavior. According to its theorists, with the action axiom as the starting point, it is possible to draw conclusions about human behavior that are both objective and universal. For example, the notion that humans engage in acts of choice implies that they have preferences, and this must be true for anyone who exhibits intentional behavior.

As such, and by the way I define it, the praxeology of the Red Pill is subject to the same capacity for revision and refinement as any other science. A lot of critics, including ones who’ve come to it after failing to re-plug themselves back into the Matrix, would like to believe that the foundations of Red Pill awareness are just overly complex opinions based on the anecdotal, negative, experiences of a handful of manosphere luminaries.

The truth is that as a praxeology Red Pill awareness is ‘open source’ and will necessarily evolve as our understanding of human nature advances. As new biological, psychological and sociological understanding expands so too will our understanding of Red Pill awareness, and consequently methodologies to operate on them will too.

However, in the now, we still must deal with the consequent painful disillusionments from being cut away from a formerly Blue Pill existence. As I illustrated in The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill, that freeing truth comes at a price, and sometimes that price manifests in ways you don’t expect.

Many newly unplugged men make the connection that Red Pill awareness fundamentally alters the way they see the world and certainly the latent purpose of pop culture and media trends. That’s the easy recognition, however, the Red Pill Lens reveals many more painful truths and a lot of them hit pretty close to home. Dealing with family, interacting with close personal friends still mired in a Blue Pill conditioned existence, is not only frustrating, but revealing your new awareness can sometimes draw hostility and abandonment from them.

I’ve personally known guys who’ve read my body of work, came to a Red Pill awareness, and then immediately wanted to explain it all to their friends only to find themselves ostracized from their regular social group because their sudden change diametrically conflicts with what they’ve been conditioned to expect from him. It’s very frustrating for guys who want to excitedly, sometimes proudly, talk about the particulars of their new awareness and how it’s changed them for the better.

I know better than most I think. I’m Rollo Tomassi and I can’t exactly advertise it or even drop hints about the Red Pill in my daily life without some reservation. Mrs. Tomassi would like nothing better than to blather off about my two books to her family and friends, but I’ve dropped the hammer on this since I started this blog. Obviously it behooves me to maintain at least a semi-anonymous profile to make sure my wife and daughter aren’t the target of anyone’s net hate retaliations, but I also know that most of my family and certainly all of hers will never be ready to accept Red Pill awareness.

Never appeal to truth and reality unless you are prepared for the anger that comes for disenchantment.

Ghosting

PlansAndPlates from the Red Pill sub brought up an interesting topic recently.

People who knew you in your beta past will never respect you and you will never respect yourself if you choose to associate with them anymore.

I made a pretty brutal decision to ghost a lot of ‘friends’ from my past.

I decided if people treated me in a way they wouldn’t treat someone of high regard/respect/authority (their boss, their parent, whoever they look up to) then I would next them. Boy, girl, plate, ‘friend’, family member, whoever.

If a person doesn’t respect you, it could be your fault and it could be their fault – whoever enabled and created the relationship of disrespect is not actually important.

What’s important is the result; you’re associating with someone who treats you with disrespect, or lesser respect than those they actually respect, and there is no way a man can respect himself if he’s choosing to spend time with people who don’t respect him.

Note the word choose. Sometimes you have no choice, but when you have the option to say to yourself “You know what? Fuck this, I’m bailing” or “No fucking way am I going to see that guy” you must use it.

How can you respect yourself if you choose to associate with someone who doesn’t respect you? How can you do anything in life worth a shit? You’re going to spend all the time with them ‘proving’ to them you’re worthy of respect? You’re going to spite them until they respect you? Who gives a fuck what they think? Not only is it bad to give a fuck what someone thinks, they’re likely never going to respect you. Never ever. Once you decide you don’t respect somebody, how often do you change your mind? Do you erase your memories?

How can you believe in yourself if you don’t respect yourself? How are you going to follow a plan out to get healthy, get wealthy, get smart, if you don’t respect yourself?

For that reasons I ghosted a number of friendly acquaintances I considered friends, once I understood where I was in their hierarchy. Some I’d known for 10 years and had shared some good and bad memories with.

I do not regret it one bit.

People who don’t respect you won’t change how they perceive you once you better yourself, they’ll see the old you and a new imposter.

I am a strong believer that first impressions last, forever, and that if you have made an impression on some people that you are a beta, they will never forget where they’ve pigeon holed you. They will never treat you like an alpha and defer to you, how could they? They don’t respect you, they ‘know’ that you’re just ‘acting different’.

Compare that with new people. New people see what’s in front of them and they take it at face value that you’re a lean mean fucking machine who appears to have his shit in order and probably always has. Don’t tell them about your past when you didn’t, they don’t need the dream ruined. And if other people talk about your old ways, just agree and amplify and laugh about it – the new person wasn’t there and it’s just the other persons word against yours – and you’re a likable alpha, so they’ll think fuck it and believe you’re an alpha and always were.

Lesson: You should consider making some hard decisions about ghosting some people in your life who have disrespected you and boxed you into a ‘beta’ category in their memory. You could turn from the guy from Revenge of the Nerds into Connor McGregor and they’d only tell people about how you were the guy from Revenge of the Nerds. New people will take your fucking greatness at face value and when they hear reports that you’ve upgraded and shit test you, defuse the shit test with great laughter.

His point is simple with regard to respect, but this need for ghosting is a pragmatic response most guys see coming when they shift into Red Pill awareness. They know well ahead of time that certain friends, particularly close friends whose lives are invested in the illusions of a Blue Pill contentedness, will neither accept this new awareness nor the genuineness of their change in perspective.

Law 10 Infection: Avoid the Unhappy and Unlucky

You can die from someone else’s misery – emotional states are as infectious as disease. You may feel you are helping the drowning man but you are only precipitating your own disaster. The unfortunate sometimes draw misfortune on themselves; they will also draw it on you. Associate with the happy and fortunate instead.

Remember those Zig Ziglar optimistic ‘mindset’ peddlers I mentioned earlier? One tenet of that build-a-positive-fantasy-life mental model is the clichéd notion that you should surround yourself with winners and blow off the losers in your life. It’s a simple aphorism that rolls off the tongue easy; associate with winners and that winning will rub off on you. What they don’t tell you to do is how to cut out the unhappy and unlucky persons in your life who also happen to be your oldest friends or closest family members.

This is one of those painful truths that will set you free, but still stings like a bitch.

But eliminate them, or marginalize them you must. Most guys know this, or they come to know it as the first thing once they unplug. There’s a cost to Red Pill awareness.

The Price of Truth

I only rarely make an active effort to help unplug men these days. Now, I get that my books and this blog are an effort as such, but I mean in the sense of reaching out personally to a guy whom I think may be ready to consider the Red Pill truths about men and women.

I did make one recently and I was reminded again about the part in the Matrix where Morpheus explains to Neo that he’d broken protocol to unplug him. They never tried to free a mind once it reached a certain age. The mind has difficulties in letting go of “truths” it’s become dependent upon for its own survival.

That’s a pretty accurate analogy for dealing with unplugging other men as well as revealing Red Pill awareness to people too invested in a Blue Pill existence to listen to, much less acknowledge the rationality of a truth that destroys their self-sustaining ego investments.

But attempt it I did. The guy was a fairly high profile, but minor local celebrity who at 48 years old had just had a painful split with his 30 year old girlfriend. He’d been married once before, divorced for all the Blue Pill misguided pandering you might expect, and now here he was ‘blindsided’ by a girlfriend well above 2 SMV steps to his own. Even a basic understanding of the intersexual dynamics that the Red Pill illustrates would’ve spared him a repeat of his Beta behavior and her consequent dumping of him.

But there he was, again, in the same familiar depression due to the same repeated behaviors stemming from the same misinformed Blue Pill conditioned mindset. So I made the effort. I liked the guy. In most other aspects of life he’s very pragmatic, driven, focused and definitely Alpha. He’s got social proof, a low grade of celebrity, he’s affluent, and while somewhat arrogant at times very likable. However, he suffers from one fatal flaw – he is ego invested in a Blue Pill illusion of women so thoroughly that only a man who’s lived it his entire 48 years can understand it.

So I made an effort to just get him to read my book, or at least the Best of Year One posts. He’d have none of it. The reflexive response to what he’s been taught by the women in his life is misogyny short circuit for him. To be honest I was never really hopeful, but I made the effort from that base need to help another man avoid a painful fate – not unlike my reasons for writing at all.

I’ve got to ghost him now. Not because I’m an asshole or I’ve given up, but because it’s just not pragmatic to apply that effort when others would benefit more from it. He’s past that age Morpheus says the mind should never be freed and I’ve got to be OK with that.

That’s just the price of truth.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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@Emily
“I’m sure the best abstinence (as a woman) is with someone you want power over.”
Not sure what you mean by that.

Heheheeee

What do you mean you are not sure what he means? You admitted online to putting some guy on boot camp training for the hard times of IV drip dead fish snatch ahead and when someone points it out, you pretend, “not sure what you mean by that…” Heheheeee… Hahahahaaaaa…

No wonder Blax calls you a walking example.

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I’m actually kinda offended that you guys think my posts offer less than most of the other posts here, many of which are frightfully dull like some of the field reports.

Anyway, I don’t think I was spamming in this topic. Money in PUA is a relevant topic no? Idk, I’ve been gone for a while so maybe my posts aren’t as high quality as usual eek

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@Emily Hush now don’t cry. You want the guys to clap for you? Quality posts aside, bullshit is what is catching the eye here. You are not in a good position to place some arguments. If credibility is currency in debate, you are hard pressed to contribute to some aspects of the debate because; lack of currency. And when you start doing the Not sure what you mean by that you are squandering whatever little you have remaining. Of course you know what he means, so you should just tell the fella: Hey you caught me. I meant to say… Read more »

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Here, let’s play a game: I spy something dumb.

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I spy something else… who might be in this pic here? Emmy any guesses? “The amount of hamstering going on to avoid that simple fact is remarkable.” Indeed… Indeed… “But, as I said, the self deception is interesting. Game lesson… note the projection… and in case you haven’t noticed, our lil darling has mentioned at least 3 times she is “just back from” … springbreak… and damn it – NO ONE has asked her about yet! she will keep posting nonsense until someone asks… sigh. so predictable. Come now girl BOTH hands on the keyboard. You silly thing. (PS –… Read more »

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@Yareally, @all First, I’d like to thank YaReally and all the other guys on here who take action and put this knowledge into practice. During these last few years your work has been a tremendous boon for me, really. I’m tall and lanky, and can be good-looking, but I’m lacking in the social department and can act tremendously awkward from time to time. So without further ado, here is a FR from last Friday. I meet with an old friend and some of his buddies, who I don’t know, for some pre-drinking at a small bar. There’s one girl in… Read more »

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@Roy Hobbs Wish people would listen to you lol Here we go for another 2 pages worth of this shit littering the good posts. @babysnakes Props on going out dude. Some quick notes: “I’m tall and lanky, and can be good-looking, but I’m lacking in the social department and can act tremendously awkward from time to time.” One thing average guys don’t realize is that they have the luxury of blending into the crowd when they feel like shit or fuck up. But a tall dude can’t escape everyone’s eyeballs. A really short dude in a non-crowded room has the… Read more »

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Babysnakes… Couple of things for you. Who is in who’s frame? Thats mostly going to determine what happens. So the two 8s, you are in their frame, they are leading it and you joined their party. And all was good everyone had fun. But they led. That’s why compliance tests and hoops early are so important. They set who is leading the frame. So like after the dance grind try and lead them back for a drink or stay out for another when they wanted to go etc. Get compliance and you start leading them. Because they love validation. Same… Read more »

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@Roy Hobbs – fuck off

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@adsgamer and @Walawala are fucking clueless. Jesus Fucking Christ, reading them screams PUA sperg that has no clue about what they are writing. Girls must like spergy guys if what he says is true. Give me a 2nd helping of sperg, then. (I think that he’s just still deep in the matrix about what girls like. I’m sure he thinks that Owen Cook is spergy as hell. Owen’s autistic like me, so, surely, Owen’s sperginess shows up, but he makes it fun. You learn to compensate for it. I’m no James Fucking Blond, lol. I DO play with girls’ emotions.)… Read more »

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So put my comment on your ignore list.

Emily’s Hypergamy won’t allow her to ignore a high value man.

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In all Yas infields you will note the guy is leading the interaction and getting compliance.

Made me think about last night. I asked ruddy HB9 if she’d like to dance west coast to bachata music (she really likes west coast, but it’s a little weird to dance west coast to bachata). She said that if I led it, she’d follow. Compliance test? Is there such a thing as “Do whatever you want with my body”, lol.

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@ theadsgamer, Dance girls are usually in excellent physical condition for their age and remain so unlike their peers. Definitely worth chasing.

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@Sun – well if butthurt = I sense Roy Hobbs …. cunt, then sure, call it whatever you want.

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@ pinelero

She passes my filter, but is she invested enough in me to justify the risk? Funny that the risk of crazy doesn’t cause me to eject her from my filter. There must be something in her genes to justify it.

So, the trick is to get her contact info without being creepy or appearing try-hard. Two possibilities: 1) a guy I know who used to work with her (I think) or 2) through her dance studio.

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Sniffing around other men’s butts looking for hurt is so…ghey.

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@YaReally “Out of curiousity about what point in the night was this? And did you notice if they were drinking? Often the “hottest girls in the bar” will come out and stay sober (or just have one or two drinks but not get sloppy drunk) and rally up some attention and then take off around midnight or so, leaving the “normal” girls to deal with all the drunk ballsy guys.” Totally on point. It must have been around 1 o’clock or so and in my country the bars generally close at 5, so they DID leave early. They weren’t drunk… Read more »

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@Sun – You defending Roy Hobbs? Why? Probly better for you to let Roy Hobbs do what Roy Hobbs will do wrt me. Not sure what you got against me all of sudden Sun (unless it is about defending that cunt Roy Hobbs) – why otherwise you insinuating I need to man the fuck up? Where you going with this?

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@Wild Manchild Come on. You are not even coming close passing a minor shit test. “……masculine men will “ball bust” (read: shit test your ass a new one) quite relentlessly to determine “just how much of a man you are.” If you are an effeminate or timid man, you will feel bullied rather than challenged and this tells the group everything they need to know about you. You will fail to understand that what you are experiencing is a social initiation ritual that all men must go through when they are new to a male-dominated group. You will be relentlessly… Read more »

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Put in another context. How about engaging in moving discussions along that have to do with red pill awareness, game or masculine self improvement or any of the myriad to other topics the author of this blog has expressed ideas about? Instead of thinking up new things that don’t resonate with the author of the blog or commentariat (i.e. stop making shit up).

Add value to the blog in your comments. That might garner a bit of respect and counteract the disrespect. Take your place among men and garner honor from other men. That’s part of the way of men.

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@SJF – what the fuck does Roy Hobbs thing have to do with you – butt out.

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Okay. Now I have a keyboard my fingers can actually fit on…. Money. A necessary evil in life. Rollo has stated here at least a dozen time that some of the best sex he’s had was at a time when he was anything but flush with cash. This has been my experience also, but I have also observed this with the men around me. Imo, money is vital if you plan on screwing escorts and hookers. A chick droning on about money meaning anything about the guy possessing it is childish, feminine reasoning. Money doesn’t mean anyone comes from a… Read more »

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“http://nypost.com/2012/11/25/nobody-marries-their-best-sex-ever/

That’s just sad.

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Best sex ever for women is filed under #Rollercoaster. Won’t be the last time you’ll hear that. Just ask Padma Lakshmi.

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I think if you had money you would be singin a different tune. I mean, every time I see someone in a like.. ferrari or something, I can be reasonably certain a good looking gal will be sitting next to him. And you know what? I’m usually correct! Even like.. my daddy is like pretty old and not in great shape buuut my stepmom is young and beautiful. She was probably attracted to him for the money at first, but now they seem to be happy and in love. But you know what? I’ll drop it! Rollo, I think a… Read more »

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Again, I wasn’t talking to you.

” I think if you had money you would be singin a different tune.”

…. I should buy your house and turn it into a shelter. Just for shits and giggles. Never assume shit, dummy.

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…. Oh wait, you don’t actually have a house. I mean, I should buy your Daddy’s house.

You think and speak like every entitled asshole broad I’ve ever met. Lol, yeah, your daddy’s special. He’s the only one with money.

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buuut even in the study you linked, nearly 48% of women said that their husband is the best sex they ever had. So that’s something.

What they say is not necessarily what there is. Someone says they lie butt naked in bed with (/to?) a man they do not intend to fuck, and they turn and reports that they are VERY attracted to him. What you say is not what there is either. Heheheeee… Just STFU.

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…” ..my daddy is like pretty old and not in great shape buuut my stepmom is young and beautiful. She was probably attracted to him for the money at first, but now they seem to be happy and in love. “

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@Blax

“Never assume shit, dummy.”

Whoa whoa whoa… you mean all black dudes aren’t so poor that they’ll sing “Mammy” for you if you toss them a shiny nickel? Slow down there, bro. You might blow her incredibly closed little mind.

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The young are so incredibly naïve.

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@Sun,

Easy with the stereotypes, buddy. She also said some of them prefer to do a little soft shoe for that nickel.

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@Asdgamer

No response to my comment March 12th, 2016 at 4:47 pm?

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@ SJF

What more is there to say than what you said? Maybe that we were rapport-building? I wasn’t actively gaming the wife–I was just in the moment. If the wife was gamed, it was just my own natural, incredible self. Uhhhh…I think I just twisted my arm…owwww!

Saturday eclipsed Friday for me. I thought that Friday was pretty awesome at the time and Saturday started off with plans falling through but ending on a massive high note.

It’s fun playing with dynamite!

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Lol.

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“…. I should buy your house and turn it into a shelter. Just for shits and giggles. Never assume shit, dummy.”

Given your background I doubt it.

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@beta

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@Emily: ” . . . every time I see someone in a like.. ferrari or something, I can be reasonably certain a good looking gal will be sitting next to him.” One of the reasons I’m in no hurry to get another Maserati. The free riders got annoying as hell after a while. One of the great things about riding a bicycle that’s more exotic than a mere road legal Ferrari or Maserati is there probably aren’t a half dozen women in the world who can recognize it for what it is. @Blaximus: “But what they all had in common… Read more »

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” Given your background I doubt it.”

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@yareally

I’m just under 7ft tall and while it certainly has perks, I can feel everyone’s eyes on me pretty much all the time. Can even hear them talk about me as I walk past. I know that preselection and social proof are amplified, good or ill for me. What do you recommend I do when I first get inside a club or bar to make the most of a double edged sword like that?
Also, leaning in/over to hear others is a problem i have.

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” Given your background I doubt it.” Spam! Hopefully Banned. No thank you manipulative fraud who can’t follow with a thought, rebuttal or original idea Ma’am 20 year old. She had her chance to contribute a decent comment and she blew it. Useful foil vs. spammer. Tactically 20 year old feminist studying philosophy vs. gold digging daddy’s girl playing hide the vagina for magical powers she can’t quite admit to. She’s a less sophisticated spammer than Inanitybytes but is nonetheless just posting shitty spam. Emily: “Rollo, I think a lot of women, especially if they are in boring dull relationships,… Read more »

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@ Sun ” Whoa whoa whoa… you mean all black dudes aren’t so poor that they’ll sing “Mammy” for you if you toss them a shiny nickel? Slow down there, bro. You might blow her incredibly closed little mind.” Yeah. I’m going to look past that stuff, considering the source. Of course she thinks that way. And I will not use ” my background ” to hack and doxx her to within an inch of her life. I am curious though, what does she possibly think that she knows about my background? Talking about ” daddy ” brought out the… Read more »

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YaReally Sentient HABD Scray Wala Scribblerg Forge et al Sat Night FR – Buzzy pub and then a small club. Two wings, including a (different) good looking guy from the previous night. Stayed out till closing time which I rarely do but I enjoyed – there’s some of the rush of being out when everyone is pulling and the sexual energy is high that I really like. Didn’t drink at all again. Same as before – state maintenance is really hard especially at the end of the night when everyone else is drunk (although I had wings this time so… Read more »

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@ SJF he he heeee. I thought about making a plea to banish Em, but it isn’t all that. She will do worse because she’s a spoiled little brat. … but I admit…. don’t tell anybody…. I did think for just a minute about yanking pics from her social media and just posting them everywhere I could think of, along with her cell number. But then as a father, I thought better of it. If it were my daughter ( never happen ), I’d expect a grown man to understand that she’s an immature kid and not blow her life… Read more »

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@Blax

I’d expect a grown man to understand that she’s an immature kid and not blow her life up.

She is harmless ( if you don’t count the whole blue-ball boyfriend thing).

Don’t blow her whole life up. Just her engagement to the cuck.

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@ kfg ” Unless there is some specific reason to do otherwise, a situation I try to avoid, I generally look like a lot less money than I actually am.” Ha ha haaa. I was raised Old School. Talking about how much money you, or anyone else had was considered vulgar. Having money makes you better off, but not better. I’ve been solid middle class ( Surprise Emily, we don’t all have certain backgrounds…lol…), rich, richer, lost practically all of it, and busted my ass to get it back. But money doesn’t ever define me, whether I have it or… Read more »

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@Blaximus The secret of the red pill and conversing on blogs with child-like women: Play with her and play with her. IOW amused mastery. She’s a child. She is harmless in the grand scheme. But harmful to this blog in the short term via annoyance. Think about it this way – you can never tell a woman about the red pill or how Game savvy you are, you can only show her. Demonstrate, never explicate. While it might be satisfying to overtly crush a woman’s gender perceptions, being overt will always come off like conceit, or bitterness or melancholy. If… Read more »

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Bah.. I didn’t realize I was being so annoying. I was just tryna have a conversation.

Oh well, calm down everyone. I’ll stop posting and let you go back to your field reports and whatever :/

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@ Sun ” Don’t blow her whole life up. Just her engagement to the cuck.” Don’t think that the thought doesn’t cross my mind every time she appears here. Cell phones are uncomplicated things. If I lived in Texas I prolly could find her man in about a day. From here on the East Coast it takes longer and gets a little more complicated. From the Czech Republic or Russia or Viet Nam, it’s a lot easier. If he’s on her social media, it takes about 30 minutes before I get forced out. 30 minutes is a lifetime. The info… Read more »

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Emily: I feel bad for you. Blaximus: I don’t think about you at all. “.. I didn’t realize I was being so annoying. I was just tryna have a conversation.” You didn’t hardly try. To have a conversation. You don’t have the skills. “Oh well, calm down everyone. I’ll stop posting and let you go back to your field reports and whatever ” Dismissive tone won’t rally your cause on this blog.You are out of your element. Name one time comment of yours that is adding value and moving the dialog along in interesting ways in relation to the the… Read more »

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…every time I see someone in a like.. ferrari or something, I can be reasonably certain a good looking gal will be sitting next to him. Emily, were you even paying a little attention to my field reports from Fri & Sat? I wear a cheap long sleeve shirt, cheap jeans, cheap black boots, & dri-fit black ball cap when I go out. Nothing fancy. No tats or jewelry. My truck is beat up. I don’t buy girls drinks or spend much at the bar. I rarely drink at the bar. I comment to girls that I avoid paying the… Read more »

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When did I ever say that you NEED money to be successful with PUA? All I said is that there definitely is a positive correlation. Now, I’m gonna leave before I get wrongfully accused of spamming again.

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@gamer, Women can smell money even when you dress like shit and come in a shitty truck. They can sniff it out. How they do it, I don’t know. Good thing is some actually don’t give a fuck. Some do (eg emily). What works is you tell them something akin to that you are a butler of sorts and your boss owns the mean car. Watch her face fall five floors down. At that point she the hamster assumes what you have on are hand-me-downs from your boss’s son. If that works then you are dealing at the personal level… Read more »

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@Blaximus: “Part of my job entails finding out how hackers work, and then stopping them.”

Back in the day, kings would assassinate their own security man, because it was the only way to be secure against him.

@Emily: “I’m gonna leave . . .”

. . . she returned to say.

Gone yet?

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@Cheupez: “How they do it, I don’t know.”

It isn’t enough that I wear cheap and raggedy clothing. I have to alter my posture, my gait, my language and my affect if I really want to pass as a bum.

It isn’t money, per se, that they can smell, it’s quality.

And quality tends to imply money, or at least the potential for money.

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“And quality tends to imply money, or at least the potential for money.”

Yes, I think potential is key.
That’s essentially why “alpha behaviors” attract (in a way that might be independent of current actual circumstance).

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I know this is baby steps FR and I imagine this is a bit dull to most of you, skip ahead if you want, but I’m doing stuff I wasn’t doing before. @Sentient, I think this shows I’m in no risk of accidentally cheating, if not because of willpower, for lack of game competence I went out one of the nights in the weekend, with some people from my sports social circle, but I arrived to the club before they did. In the line to get in I chatted a bit with a mixed set that arrived after me and… Read more »

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Another anecdote from last Sat. about potential for money: There were a couple of 2nd year med students on a date at a salsa club. I danced once with the girl and started chatting her up. The man joined us on the other side of her and gave her a lot of distance. Initially, the girl’s body language was open to the man, but within a minute she had closed him off. I moved to reopen him and invited him back into the convo. She again shut him off. I again reopened him and engaged him in the convo. The… Read more »

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@ IAS The girls joked around a bit with one of the guys that was with them because he was wearing a jumper and they wanted him to warm them up but he didn’t want to lose his heat. I was wearing a jacket so I thought about hugging one or both of them myself but on the other hand I wonder if that would be white knight behavior. White knighting is only when you take up a girl’s cause against another guy. Nothing wrong with using cold to warm a girl. You likely were hamsterizing to avoid the contact.… Read more »

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Wasn’t feeling it so didn’t sarge/Game this weekend. I think this is important for me somehow, not sure why. Instead I did some new drills on guitar, spent some time on my place and just kept within myself instead of running around gaming. I felt like I needed to just forget about gaming for a few days. I’ve been so focused on it for a while now, it just felt like the right thing to do. Also got in some spring skiing with bro-in-law. Nothing like ripping it up in 50 degree weather, sun shining, what snow remaining soft from… Read more »

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Also noticing how ridiculous it seems to me to be engaging with the trolls here. The less I allow myself to be drawn into negative energy, the more useless it looks to me. Guys, consider that Emily hasn’t even bothered to understand Rollo’s ideas. And that GB, Wild, NBTM and other haters are merely servicing their ego buffers. What’s the upside for any of us to even engage with them? Zero. In fact, it’s only downside to waste time on them and is also bad energy so you can get sucked into it and not even realize it. Big learning… Read more »

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@babysnakes @betathrowaway @Culum “so they DID leave early. They weren’t drunk – I was the one doing the drinking…” That’s what I figured. Pay attention for this and you’ll notice it a lot. It’s part of why I’m cutting back my drinking…the hottest girls usually aren’t drinking much. It’s rare to see the hottest girl in the club shitfaced falling over herself on the dancefloor. It’s similar to a really tall dude like betathrowaway where he knows all eyes are on him so if he gets shitfaced and makes an ass of himself, everyone is aware…the turbo hottie of the… Read more »

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I think there is someone on this thread that needs a ghosting lol

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@YaReally, Sentient, thought of a new open this Friday that worked pretty well on hot bartender girl I don’t know yet. Go up to new bar I’ve never been to yet, wait a bit to get a spot one of the bars or to get eye contact from bartender to order. Opening pops up so I slide up. Eye contact with bartender. Tell her my drink. She gives me my drink, tells me the total, and I put my money out. Just when she’s about to grab it, I pull it back with a grin and say, “What’s your name?”… Read more »

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@ YaReallyPUA It’s part of why I’m cutting back my drinking…the hottest girls usually aren’t drinking much. It’s rare to see the hottest girl in the club shitfaced falling over herself on the dancefloor. It’s similar to a really tall dude like betathrowaway where he knows all eyes are on him so if he gets shitfaced and makes an ass of himself, everyone is aware…the turbo hottie of the bar/club knows all eyes are on her all night, so she’s more careful not to do shit that would tank her reputation/value. The hottest men don’t drink much either. Dancers don’t… Read more »

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My friend Patrick took his life last week.
The red pill and this place has an will keep me in balance.
Thanks folks for sharing your truths in the world.

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To Patrick;May you know peace and happiness in your spirit journey.

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@rugby11: My condolences.

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Condolences Rugby11, very sad.

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i’ve been off line for a while, so i missed a lot but i’ll just try to catch up here… @theMarquis re comfort tests… i noticed in your FR that you can tell that you sometimes get ‘genuine’ comfort tests…lol… everything else is NOT a genuine comfort test = shit test…lol… but even with a genuine comfort test, it won’t hurt you to treat it like a shit test and agree and amplify…but then deal with the comfort issue on your own time table…remember girls have a different sense of time wrt to interactions…so, if you deal with it in… Read more »

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@rugby11

that sucks…my condolences…

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Sorry for your loss, rugby.

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Happy March 14th. Steak and BJ Day!

It’s a probably stunt to troll MIss E’s feminist imperative comrades, but sounds like a great idea!

Showed the wife the Facebook page, so it has to be real. Anyway she was skeptical about it, but thought it was odd but a fun idea for holiday. No covert contracts here, but I am going out for steak tonight.

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Condolences Rugby.

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Hey thanks guys Patrick had a wife and three daughters. Last week on Sunday he wanted to outto panerabread and talk at a weekly group I go to that mostly men show up to. They told me last evening when I was at the meeting. I don’t share anything called the red pill. Just observations. What’s sad is that I loved the guy. He made jokes out of the most intense emotional discerned bing things to get by. I don’t know about his wife and 3 daughters ones their all under 10 yrs of age. It’s hard on me. Maybe… Read more »

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@rugby

Don’t blame yourself at all or play “What if” games, bro. It was his choice.

Hang in there.

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@all re: money and other things idk, i’m not going to lie. there’s more than one way to skin a cat. when it comes to money, you can use it to attract women for sure….by SPENDING it. and I mean…SPENDING it…..buy an entourage, buy up the hotel, buy everything…use the money to make everyone your bitch. guys who do this do attract a lot of women. it’s how they appear dominant and confident etc…by essentially buying those things and ya, some of those dudes run through escorts prostitutes/whatever and ALSO attract hotties (think of the guy from Wolf of Wall… Read more »

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Yareally culum ias Some phone based thoughts… No punctuation etc… (Deal with it pedants) Ias. Yeah the finger is a major ioi. Playground game. Blow that up direct, like just go get hands on her… I do a lot of playground game, other stuff you can do- back into them when they are walking by and make fun of them “watch where you’re going” etc. Ball up cocktail napkins at the bar and throw them at girls, toss coasters like frisbees… Physicul stuff like that. On the waist grab. Yeahbit felt natural because it is natural… And feels good. This… Read more »

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@ scray but it’s all in your head unless you can close. For us married men who don’t wanna close, it’s gonna stay in our heads until Fun & Games time with the missus. I know you’re addressing the other men. Still, even for those of us who don’t wanna close, we need to keep our Game practiced and that means at least some kino and compliance testing. Working on AMOG skills, too, and DHVing. Maybe a platonic date every now and then off of a bounce. Doing this, we should get some indications of lays that would just fall… Read more »

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Thanks for the comments on my “FR” everyone. It is very clear that I would learn much faster if I went solo (or get a wing) and went “open open open”, given that in 3-4 hours with the group I only got about 3 situations worth thinking about. So far I only been to clubs when there is a “social circle” reason to go, and then it is hard for me to not get stuck there (furthermore I don’t want to be gaming too much in front of them, although I suspect most of them would be too drunk to… Read more »

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@ Sentient Then the two whales pop in. Both 60’s and married…totally zfg. And the whole demeanor of the women in the room changes. Because these guys ARE total scoundrels and own it, the women are accepting… They dont care thetbthese guys are old or married etc. Very interesting dynamic. You can be that guy in your circle if you want to. Waaaall, lots of people in my social circle assume that I am “that guy”, i.e., a total scoundrel, lol. The “good people” have ghosted me. Doan make me no nevermind. I have a good time and they miss… Read more »

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I could tell long ago Scrib was hurting about his daughter, among other things , and you guys kept typing about yourselves, pathetic.

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@IAS

“On the other hand I’m getting a bit of social proof and pre-selection from the girls in my group which is probably helping me more than I am capable of noticing at the moment.”

Here’s a pretty decent article on using pre-selection in game tactics. Also the Law of Least Effort link in the article is also useful.

https://archive.is/K9uBf

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@ wacokid

Your concern trolling is noted. I am likewise concerned.

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@Sun – Love the Panda action! Blax had a good one too. @Waco – Lots going on with me. I was responding to SJF not being able to reconcile my accomplishments and struggles. Many men here have been very supportive about the situation with my daughter.

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@scribblerg
I do enjoy your growth and constant mental courage Glenn one day I would enjoy sharing a beverage with you.
https://m.soundcloud.com/jjgrey/03-brighter-days

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@Rugby – Thanks. And my condolences on your friend of course. I may have given the wrong impression with my comment. I’m finally back on my feet and better than ever in some ways due to the Red Pill. I am struggling with consistency, hence my request. I think that I’m also being really confronted by gaming. And the truth isn’t so complex or subtle. When you game women, you are being assessed for your social value and other masculine attributes, and your ability to project them. One’s subcomms telegraph so much. My challenge is that I love very hot… Read more »

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@rugby

I’m sorry for your loss. But to reiterate Sun – this isn’t on you.

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emilyy96
March 12th, 2016 at 5:21 pm

“Course Rollo, the best sex is with someone you love =)))))”

emilyy96
March 13th, 2016 at 1:47 pm

“I’m not married yet but.. I admit that you have a point. The best sex is probably in volatile, short relationships, not in a long, stable marriage. That is rather depressing… buuut even in the study you linked, nearly 48% of women said that their husband is the best sex they ever had. So thats something.”

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