This is now

this_is_now

Razorwire had another great comment about the “wait for me at 30” social convention that was this week’s topic (emphasis mine):

The thing with the “wait for me” or “in x years” lie is that it truly does reveal the pervasive dominance of the Feminine Imperative (FI). Sure, an 18 y/o woman will drop this on her high school beta BF as a kind of preemptive moral relief from confronting her true sexual agenda (alpha fux) but what I find to be worse – through my own experience, is how the lie is not just the cagey maneuvering of a woman in her sexual peak but rather something all women invoke with the full backing of the entire supporting cast.

Its not just the individual woman dropping this pretty little lie, but it is the how the lie is supported by the entire culture and propagated such that this little lie becomes the big lie, which is that her sexual strategy must remain paramount, her magical journey of womanhood must not be subordinated or impeded in any way by a man – or men, or even her own choices.

So even by 18, she has learned early and often that these little lies are not like most lies; they don’t lurk about like so many contingent liabilities, or like writing bad cheques about town that will soon enough come back to bite her. No they are more like swiping her EBT card, fully backed by the FI.

Its not coming out of her moral account, so the weight of these lies are carried by the recipient. And not only is he expected to accept this charge but he is actually paying for it on the other end as well through the various extractions and taxes the FI upholds.

It is at this other end where the little lie turns big; it becomes too hard to ignore, when the other Jimmy Choo falls. When a man actually gets to that point “in ten years” and has watched as the truth reveals itself over and over in the interim he is still expected to accept her EBT without hesitation.

He is again asked to accept the lie that “those mistakes/other men/experiences made her who she is today” that she is “finally ready” and thus he should see this as equity accrued to him.

The lie on the font end is a lesson learned. But it is the fact that the lie is perpetuated over all of those years and choices, only to be eventually re-heated and served up lukewarm when she decides to change lanes that is so damaging.

And the normalcy whitewashed over this is astounding, to the point in which a man might hear his own mother instructing him to accept it for all kinds of reasons and rationales that pave over his own experiences and observations. He might also get his ear bent by his dutiful beta husband friends, parroting similar platitudes of man-up. It can be a solitary place for a man, residing at the other end of the lie.

There’s more to the comment, but this was the grist of it I wanted to address. I’ll confess I had a hunch that if I let the comment thread go on long enough some good brother would scoop me on this next post. Razorwire didn’t disappoint.

More so, the very next comment by Adam Man added some more cement to the mix:

I’ve been seeing this picture pop up in my facebook feed

beautiful

Do women really believe this? Apparently yes. If not for Rollo and Dalrock, I would have had no idea that intelligent (I’m convinced there are many intelligent women) women actually believe this.

Are women really that clueless? I feel like I need to ask this every month to be reminded that there are many many clueless people out there, but stuff like the picture above is absurd.

Tropes and memes like this are only absurd if, as a man, you haven’t accepted the most salient part (bolded) of what Razorwire observed in his comment, her sexual strategy must remain paramount. This is the essence of the feminine primacy I’ve explained in countless posts, but it bears repeating that this primacy is firmly root in the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies:

The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies:
For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own.

Not to belabor it yet again, but it will also serve my point here to restate the Sandbergian declaration of Open Hypergamy as well:

“When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys. But do not marry them. The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands. When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home. These men exist and, trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.”

― Sheryl Sandberg, Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead

I’m contrasting these two points to illustrate the circumstances men will find themselves in when they arrive at the point at which women will find themselves the most necessitous in consolidating their own sexual strategy (Hypergamy) in the long term.

I mentioned in That was then that the Break Phase is a very critical point for a young man’s life-decision making due to his Blue Pill conditioning and Disney naiveté about where he ought to serve women’s interests best. Naturally this is a precarious time because, for the majority, those young men are predisposed to sublimate their own ambitions and sacrifice their best interest because they cling to a Blue Pill hope; a hope that those sacrifices will engender a young woman’s attraction and she’ll reciprocate with something like his misguided concept of a mutual love.

The Plan

That was then. Now at 30 and (hopefully) with a learned and earned degree of merit, success, developed judgement, character and a reasonably well kept physique, a man finds himself in a position like no other – his options and agency to enjoy the attentions of women seem to suddenly be at an apex.

The planning women had at 19 when they told him to “wait for me at 30” now becomes more urgent as she becomes more viscerally aware of the Wall.

She knew this day would come when she was just entering into her peak SMV years.

As I’ve outline many times, women between the ages of 29 and 31 will enter the Epiphany Phase in which the rationalizations of their 20’s Sandbergian plan sexual priorities conflicts with the provisioning necessity and parental investment needs necessary for her long term security.

For men entertaining women embroiled in their Epiphany Phase inner conflicts, not only is this a very confusing phase for the uninitiated Beta, but it is also an equally precarious period with regard (once again) to the consequences of his life’s decisions with her. Most men find themselves players in women’s meta-sexual strategy at this time because they believe that their perseverance has finally paid off. All of that sacrifice and personal achievement has finally merited him the genuine interest of a “quality woman”.

For the men who never learn a Red Pill awareness what they fail to understand is that it’s at this point they’re are expected to abandon their own sexual strategy in order to complete that of the (now Epiphany Phase) woman they’re considering a pairing with. Whether they were literally asked to wait for a woman until she was 30, the effect is the same, they have waited their turn, they have waited to be of service, they have waited to fulfill a feminine primary sexual imperative.

You’ll notice I’ve bolded “over time” in Sandberg’s quote. This is an important, and not so subtle, detail to consider in the selling of a mandated and feminine-correct strategy to men.

The plan was never to find a man who “wants an equal partner. Someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated and ambitious. Someone who values fairness and expects or, even better, wants to do his share in the home.” The plan was to create and ensure a Beta provider is waiting for her when she needs him most – one pre-whipped and pre-willing to forgive the indiscretions of her fucking the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy boys, on her ‘journey of self-discovery’.

To effect this, not only must he be convicted of his righteous purpose in that plan, he’s got to be convinced that when he arrives at this juncture in life “nothing is sexier” than him. His Beta, Blue Pill conditioned ignorance about his true role in this planning is of the highest importance.

In prior generations, the ones before the sexual revolution, the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies could be balanced in both sexes mutually compromising those strategies to ensure the complementary benefit of both men and women. Those days are no more. They’ve been replaced with men’s planned (subconscious and aware) abdication to women’s Hypergamous sexual strategy. That compromise in strategy has been replaced with women’s solipsistic expectation that men will, by default and by right, abandon their own sexual strategy and sublimate their own self-interests to ensure the strategies and interests of women.

Red Pill awareness and contingent strategies on men’s part are the only recourse to this ‘plan’.

5 1 vote
Article Rating

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

Speak your mind

190 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Tom...
Tom...
7 years ago

@Signor Farfalla
Thank you for making sense. I don’t hate American women. On a relative value basis, however, the women of certain countries win out, hands down. Notice I didn’t say “foreign women.” I mean specific regions that offer the right mix of safety, feminine women, accessibility and receptiveness to western men.
Would you rather drill for oil in Texas or Missouri?
Frankly, smart men w/ money should look East and South. The west is a terminal patient in hospice.

Tom...
Tom...
7 years ago

@ Sun Wukong
Game is still important. Dating and mating may or not be easier overseas, but one’s reward per unit of effort is an order of magnitude easier. My worry is that as income levels rise, the level of difficulty will rise commensurately. Damn that burden of performance 😉

Tom...
Tom...
7 years ago

@ Sun Wukong
Should read…order of magnitude greater

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

@Tom… As I’ve heard it (and my experiences with chicks that have come here reflects it), getting laid isn’t necessarily easier in a lot of those places. Indeed it’s much harder in some cases, but that’s for the same reason that commitment still works in those places: women are still shamed for slutting it up and lauded for seeking out committed relationships to raise children. Once that income level rises though, yes it gets harder to compete. The other thing I’ve seen that changes in a lot of those places as they modernize is the male:female ratio. Examine the ratios… Read more »

Tom...
Tom...
7 years ago

@Sun Wukong
Relative value is huge and it isn’t just about income. There is a racial caste system in the American SMP. OKCupid released studies confirming this fact. The SMP in BRIC countries and SEA is more receptive to Asian men. At the very least, Asian men don’t have the handicap that they start with, in the states. It is nice to approach a woman and not have to prove that you are a cool Asian.

theasdgamer
7 years ago

It’s similar to how it’s common game advice to be a jerk to women. This would be bad advice for a guy who is already a jerk

As someone who has strong jerkish tendencies, let me say that I very much appreciate the truth of what you say. Everyone first needs to examine themselves carefully. If you have jerkish tendencies, don’t be afraid to give comfort and be playful. You need to focus on those. No need to stifle negative emotions, either, though you may need to tone them down a bit and reframe them with a playful twist.

theasdgamer
7 years ago

Funny thing, when you start off as a total jerk, then do something playful and fun, the contrast amps the DHV. Like the guy who almost never tells a joke and has everyone in stitches when he tells one. When a jerk does a little comfort, the contrast amps a woman’s eval of him as a “nice guy” in a good way.

Johnycomelately
Johnycomelately
7 years ago

The problem with what is being discussed here is that it is still couched in blue pill monogamy idealism. Most of the guys writing here are Gen Xs or late Baby Boomers, men who have residual monogamy culture conditioning, hence the frustration. We are at the tail end of the monogamy culture paradigm and slowly transitioning to full blown serial monogamy. Even Rollo’s prescriptions are really just serial monogamy hacks, how to be better serial monogamists. In the tug of war between the sexes we’ll reach an equilibrium but it will remain squarely couched in the serial monogamy paradigm. As… Read more »

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

Yeah Roosh has meshed PUA coaching with travel quite well. He’s kind of in a different league with his whole empire. My comment just comes from the unlikelihood of a guy in some fatass flyover state (who just got back from Cuba or somewhere) being willing to drop 500 bucks at some PUA seminar after he’s seen the extraordinary contrast between women. I’m not talking about pedestalizing, evo psych, NAWALT , LTR or stuff like that. All I mean is that the sheer volume of attractive women (from a physical health standpoint) once you leave the US is a an… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“Have you been overseas? ”

Oh yeah, and not just for the two week tour. Gone native. My step-father wrote for a Japanese publishing house.

“Even loosely equating South Asia with small town Idaho . . .”

I didn’t do anything of the kind, but my experience is that when you’ve seen one mud hut with a hole in the ground for a toilet you’ve pretty much seen ’em all.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

P.S. I’ve had to come back, because it has been persistantly amusing me and maybe writing it out will get it out of me, but when I wrote the above I “just happened” to be wearing traditional South Asian clothing that I made myself, in the traditional manner as I was taught.

I put “just happened” in quotes because it is my habit. I prefer it to western clothing for house wear.

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

I see now it wasn’t you; it was the other dude who made the AWALT Hong Kong=Pocatello insinuation.

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

Do you do your one arm pushups in that handmade South Asian gear?

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

No. Spandex shorts.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

I’ve been debating what kind of work I could do in Japan if I wanted to do a couple years there. Really wanted to try learning to compete in their motorcycle gymkhana leagues as we really don’t have the same thing here. It’s always in service of my obsession with all things two wheeled and motorized. Their work culture just seems rather insane (in a bad way) and their IT/programming culture seems way behind the times. Really, I’ve never seen a piece of software come out of Japan that wasn’t absolute garbage. Not sure what else I could aim for,… Read more »

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

That’s the huge catch with living overseas. Yeah it’s great and imo the women are superior to a laughable extent but being mobile and getting there is very tricky. It seems like programming would be great for y9ou. If you have advanced skills compared to them then give that a go

Badpainter
Badpainter
7 years ago

“If pussy is just pussy what difference will it be to him if it’s been ridden a thousand times if it’s the only avenue to female validation?”

What the fuck does a man need with female validation? Maybe that’s why the West is collapsing. The men started seeking “validation” from those who were never in a place to give it.

The rich don’t need the validation of the poor.
The strong don’t need the validation of the weak.
The smart don’t need the validation of the stupid.

Why then would men need the validation of women?

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“Why then would men need the validation of women?”

Beats hell outta me.

strauMan (@strauMan)
7 years ago

@Eli

Technology will further distance men from women sexually and it’s already happening. Porn, yes, it’s been here for awhile.

Oculus Rift: http://gizmodo.com/when-porn-and-virtual-reality-collide-nsfw-1660603261

Virtual Reality Ass: http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/1355537/pornhubs-twerking-butt-1000-robotic-ass-virtual-reality

I am beginning to think this is an advanced extension of the dynamics brought about by the mice experiments of John Calhoun and “the beautiful ones”.

You should look into future projections of low birth rates with respect Japan and “Herbivore Men”.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

asd

reminds me of the skittles guy principle.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/

I wonder if a good part of it is just contrast. But then, being a nice guy with the occasional jerk move doesn’t seem to work all that well; maybe being a jerk works better overall and a nice gesture just caffeinates the hamster? Maybe I’ve had too much saison? Beats the hell out of me. Maybe I’ll try being a jerk sometimes to see what I discover.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Johnycomelately Awesome link man. Thanks for that, I’ll take a closer look later. I see it as an inevitability at this point that we’re going to go further towards a serial monogamy model as a society, at least for a time. It’s interesting to see how that’s impacted a different society in the past, even though its size is very different and n=1. But yeah. A lot of redpill advice, when it becomes specific, is basically about how to best thrive and find meaning in a society where serial monogamy is the norm. The theories would hold true in all… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

Compared to advice from The Golden Age(tm):

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Sun, As a last resort, you could just teach english. Last I heard at least, they were still looking native speakers. I think that gig is moving more to China these days though. I’ve traveled China extensively and would highly recommend it, especially the more out of the way western portions. But it certainly is a very different animal than Japan. You run into minorities of just a few thousand people that still use ancient ideogrammatic scripts from thousands of years ago, people that still remember nomadic slavers terrorizing the villages, and societies that have been growing and harvesting from… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

endtag fail

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

“Why then would men need the validation of women?”

Throw your ” men needing women’s validation” down the toilet.
Why the heck you need women’s validation .
get that blue pill conditioning out of your system.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@kfg I’ve thought for a while that western clothing leaves a serious amount to be desired when it comes to everyday practicality. You have to buy separate clothes for pretty much every activity that you do – running clothes, biking clothes, yoga clothes, martial arts gi, outdoor work clothes, fancy clothes, really fancy clothes…. To wit, in a scene where two characters are trying to undress each other in a fit of passion: “By this time, however, the point of the exercise threatens to recede to an infinite distance so they make such love as is possible in their intermediate… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
7 years ago

@ Forge the Sky

Sounds like a predecessor to the toga, or similar to the Scots great plaid. I have no doubt about the comfort or general utility. However I suspect it’s still not practical when dealing with machine tools. Personally I like boiler suits or bib overalls for just about everything, but admittedly those lack any sense of fashion.

redlight
redlight
7 years ago

@strauman “Technology will further distance men from women sexually and it’s already happening. Porn, yes, it’s been here for awhile” agreed In 10 years the VR and 3D on demand will be so good. The FI will try to figure out a way to ban it, but with overt hypergamy women can’t have their cake, and have it eaten too. On married TRP, I think this is too-close-for-home for Rollo, and it would be better if some others took it up, and not convert later to purple pill for FI income. Certainly on this site there are all the tools… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Badpainter Exactly so. The toga was a derivative garment, it differed in that it was semicircular rather than rectangular. This gave it a more stately appearance, at the sacrifice of some practicality. And the Greeks didn’t have machine tools, of course. When they had to do manual labor they took the himation off and worked in a shift – basically a sleeveless shirt that went down to the knees. I actually dig a chick in overalls, provided she’s only in overalls. But that doesn’t translate very well to men probably lol. So far as fashion goes the perception is http://yourpopfilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Redneck-Sensitive.jpg… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“Have you heard of the ancient Greek himation?” Yeah, they’re metrosexual city wear and a pain in the ass, but at least nowhere near the toga for that. I prefer the simple chlamys, which is basically the same thing as the Keltic brat (which became the Scottish Great Cloak, which became the kilt). Again a simple rectangle, but smaller than the himation. But for hard weather I make them in full size, so they have all the advantages you mention of the himation. I generally advise people to pack these instead of extra clothing in a bug out bag. Not… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

Holy cross posting, Batman!

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

Yeah, there was a movement generally from practicality to simple ornamentation. The himation and the toga grew to unmanageable sizes in order to create ever more elaborate wrappings. Apparently the state toga of the Roman emperor was massive and took two attendants to don every morning. I take your point about the clamys, though if I remember correctly it was more of a woman’s thing. But it was more of a medium-sized rectangle, which was probably optimal. I didn’t know about the brat; it looks like basically a sort of cloak? That could work well. Hmm. I thought my clothes… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

And more practical

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

kfg. Curious – how large do you make these, and out of what material?

Sorry for the serious OT Rollo, I have some thoughts about the video interview for later. Promise.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” . . . if I remember correctly it was more of a woman’s thing.” No, it was a guy thing. It’s what the guys in 300 are wearing. A particular favorite of messengers who often wore nothing else, which would tend to get you arrested most places these days. By the classical period it had become thought of as a bit “peasant.” The standard size would be two arms and an ell, which for an average sized person works out in modern measurements as two yards of 45″ wide. Bog standard dimensions. I never understood why 45″ was a… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

P.S. The 300 version is Hollywoodized. Much too long. Makes me think “No capes.” You couldn’t actually fight for shit in those.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

Mini FR:

Can’t find plates worth spinning in this sausagefest whale pod of a town. Think while I’m in Dallas my sole focus should be mission till I’m out. I can’t develop a taste for women over 40 years or 160 pounds. Just ain’t worth my goddamn time, and it’s usually all I find. That’s not even worth fucking, much less getting rejected by.

just getting it
just getting it
7 years ago

Being able to change lanes at the flick of a switch from CC to wife is what’s wrong with the marriage system from the male point of view.

If marriage was more of a process than an event so that you would optionally step it up a stage every 2-3 years (if you both still want to).

Wimmin being obsessed with status would be aware that to get to the full version of marriage requires that you start earlier.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
7 years ago

@Sun —

If you’re going to do the expat thing, don’t do Japan. Japan is very feminist, and its relationship culture is dead. Go further south in east Asia, like SEA. Eastern Europe and Latin America are also good options, but the key is staying outside the US. Bring her back here, and there’s a great chance she becomes feminist due to the environment here.

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

Human rights :
1, Women.
2, Dogs.
3,Cats.
4,Raccoons.
5, squirrels.

Ps
You can find men in Pest Control.

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

@Novaseeker, I haven’t been to Japan for an extended stay in about ten years. Certainly, ten years ago it wasn’t ‘very feminist’ but maybe times change. When were you there last? I thought of relocating there again and I’m surprised to hear that they’re feminist to that extent. Last I heard, they were so starved of masculinity that bunches of them go to stare at male gorillas in the zoo to get their fill. No kidding. So I’m thinking–hit the deadlifts extra hard, drink more milk and go clean up in Osaka while the grass-eaters play vids. @Sun It’s good… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@kfg

Thanks man! I’ll give it a whirl. I’m always trying to improve in practicality and simplicity.

Like I needed another hobby, heh.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Signor Farfalla I work in healthcare with an emphasis on optimizing health rather than treating disease. I’m very aware of the problem. It doesn’t extend to mere obesity, a lot of people in America who have a reasonable BMI are ‘thin-fat,’ they have little muscle and excess fat tissue. And the prevalence of gut issues like IBS and Crohns, or just sub-clinical levels of ill health, are staggering. When you look for ‘healthy’ rather than just ‘sane weight,’ the picture does become a bit depressing. And it does make a difference, even just for spinning plates. So many girls, even… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Sun Wukong So this might just be stupid, as what I know about Dallas is what I just read in a Wikipedia article. But I thought that maybe a totally off-the-wall perspective from 30,000 feet might be what’s needed here. From the Wikipedia article: “In addition to its large number of businesses, Dallas has more shopping centers per capita than any other city in the United States and is also home to the second shopping center ever built in the United States, Highland Park Village, which opened in 1931. Dallas is home of the two other major malls in North… Read more »

A.F.O.R.
A.F.O.R.
7 years ago

Completely off topic (Other than it happened today – this is now):

But is there a word for the feeling you get when a friend uses your excellent game advice to get back with his insane girlfriend? :/

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

@Forge, That’s interesting stuff. I’m sure smokers are in that category. Many of the thin women who get there through barely eating don’t really make me go weak in the knees either. That leads to those dullards that you mentioned. I wish I wasn’t such a physical beast when it comes to women but that’s how it is. Young, healthy bodies are an absolute marvel. I see guys my age married to absolute monsters of ill-health and overconsumption. It seems like it would take a miracle to strike wood over them. Like a magician could have them in lingerie on… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago
kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” . . . a lot of people in America who have a reasonable BMI are ‘thin-fat,’ they have little muscle and excess fat tissue.” Doug McGuff (http://www.bodybyscience.net) is an ER doc. He used to assume that the obese, because they are effectively doing weight work every time they move around, at least had decent muscle mass to go with it, like a power lifter. Then he started cutting them open and discovered that they have even less muscle than the skinny fat. Obese people do not move if they can avoid it and their muscles are as atrophied as… Read more »

God is Laughing
7 years ago

Feminists have been stating again and again how they don’t want to have their sexuality controlled by the “Patriarchy”. They didn’t exactly lie about their goals (in this regard).

A.F.O.R.
A.F.O.R.
7 years ago

@ Forge – great link!

I’ve got both of Rollo’s books and think I’m going to read as many comment sections as possible. Rollo, would it possible to add Disqus comments to your site?

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

Sun
“I have no idea what you’re asking.”

Watch Rollo’s video at 3:29.

Ps
I wonder why no one commented on the video yet.

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

@ Mr T

Because the video speaks for itself…i guess

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

@Novaseeker Yeah, Japan I was considering only for a year or two strictly for the gymkhana aspect of it. Well that and the WTF factor, but I know that wears off eventually. I don’t expect it to be a good place long term. Their xenophobia would make sure of that. For the long term I’d go elsewhere. @Forge I realize part of the problem is that I might be just making excuses, but the biggest problem I’m having is that I’ve spent a couple months going out now and a lot of nights I just never see a single woman… Read more »

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

Sun
“Their xenophobia would make sure of that. ”
I agree, as in any where in the world there are Japanese who finds it Comical when none Japanese motherfucker who can’t combine a sentence or two in Japanese try to lecture them.

Longgone
Longgone
7 years ago

Atticus,

Condolences to you in your loss, but sounds like you really lucked out when dads were assigned.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

@Mr T

I agree, as in any where in the world there are Japanese who finds it Comical when none Japanese motherfucker who can’t combine a sentence or two in Japanese try to lecture them.

comment image

It’s kind of adorable how angry you still are.

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

“It’s kind of adorable how angry you still are.”
I wonder who loves using words like “adorable” and “angry”?

You forgot to use the word “creep” as well.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

@Mr T

I wonder who loves using words like “adorable” and “angry”?

Apparently the guy you’re harboring an unrequited man-crush on. It’s OK. I know I’m a pretty awesome guy.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
7 years ago

A big part of it is that Dallas is car obsessed due to the incredible heat and spread out nature of the place. I drove through deserts that weren’t as unpleasant to be out in as the weather in this place. Nobody walks anywhere here. Very few outdoor places for people to gather, largely because it’s so damn hot during the day. Everything involves at least 20-30 minute drive in a car to get anywhere. Public transit is a bad joke. Mixed use residential is starting to catch on but still an exception since the city is geared towards getting… Read more »

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

Sun
“Apparently the guy you’re harboring an unrequited man-crush on. It’s OK. I know I’m a pretty awesome guy.”

So according to you, I’m gay!
This is exactly how a rejected woman sound.

“I know I’m a pretty awesome woman”!

You sound like a woman now.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

@Mr T Hahaha, you just have so much anger going on and it’s so obvious. Every time I poke you, you get more pissed. Seriously, you’re just looking like an angry 5-year-old at this point. So much impotent rage. That’s why I’m not taking your anger seriously in the least, despite your desperate need for my validation of it. Let me give you a tip on how to avoid getting shot down in the future. Your original complaint was that I took a “cheap shot”, but I did so while you were trying to kick men that were down. Do… Read more »

Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

We have an old saying in english: He who lives in a glass house shouldn’t throw stones. How old are you 13? I mean,at your age and you back up your thoughts of a saying that I learned in grade 5. What is your obsession in the word anger? Why do you use it a lot? Who needs insanity22? Don’t you see what I proved to you using your own words? You don’t want to live in Japan because of their xenophobia while you, yourself have a hidden “angry” xenophobia . Go to Japan, I assure you, you will be… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago
Mr T
Mr T
7 years ago

Sun
Look at that MORON Roosh, he traveled to Eastern Europe and South America either to fuck or to fuck.
Roosh didn’t tell the truth about those women.
Those women fucked him because of the foreign tingle factor or in the hope of coming to the land of the free.

The world is much smaller now, even a girl in the middle of Japan or Korea heard of Jessica Valenti .

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

This is comedy gold, but I’ll stop now. It’s too easy and it’s shitting up Rollo’s board.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
7 years ago

@Novaseeker Yeah LA is definitely a product of Hollywood being there. So much money there too. It’s ridiculous. I’ve not been to Miami despite living in FL for 10 years, but I can say that overall FL was not as bad as TX. Women wore a lot less make up and weren’t near as picky. The reason I mention public transit is that yeah, NYC has a lotta ugly femcunts. But when I visited, dude the weight problem was comparatively non-existent since everyone had to walk. The average New Yorker walks about 5 miles a day between public transit and… Read more »

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
7 years ago

I lived in TX for a few years as a kid. I still love how that place feels but the obesity must be so bad by now. One other thing working against Texans is how lethargic they are to adopt more healthy eating habits. They love their barbecues. Sugary sun tea. If they ever do brave the heat on weekends they will be knocking down quarts of soft drinks unless it’s changed. Certainly doesn’t sound like it Yeah the Japanese are a very racial culture but it’s that same ‘raciality’ that will make you a mark as a foreigner in… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

You can’t walk off a case of MoonPies and RC Cola.

“Yeah the Japanese are a very racial culture . . .”

If your cat had kittens in the oven, you wouldn’t call them biscuits.

Sam Botta (@sambotta)
7 years ago

@Sun Wukong

Improve your odds:

I’ve just tweeted about Equinox arriving in Dallas.
That’s where the intentionally fit and slim people workout here in L.A.
Every day I find that there are more women inside than men.

Google says that Dallas, TX has a few Trader Joe’s markets.
That’s where people here go for real food that keeps the body fat % low.
The intentionally fit and slim go to Trader Joe’s.

Sam Botta (@sambotta)
7 years ago

You need to get to the point where…
red pill awareness,
positive masculinity and
Alpha masculinity
becomes
Who you are
not what you are.

~Rollo Tomassi during interview by Goldmund

Tam the Bam
Tam the Bam
7 years ago

“So many girls, even if they look good, are just disappointing to touch or even be around. No vibrancy, their eyes are dull, their skin feels dry, their muscle tone is undetectable, they smell dank or dusty.” Oh god. Librarians/lab assistants. I confess, I’ve been there. Seems to be a distinct type over here, as they mostly go prematurely totally grey for no reason and become professional invalids with the most obscure “conditions” imaginable. Real nasty diseases, btw, but always vanishingly rare. Genetic damage? Is that you/we’re getting a subliminal whiff of in the early years, as per your description,… Read more »

Jeremy
7 years ago

@Forge Are you suggesting that explicitly taught redpill understanding is the answer here? Frankly, I’m not sure women would benefit from a lot of it. As Rollo often says, observing a process changes the process. And understanding her drives and motivations ruins the fun for women; they want to feel, they want things to ‘just happen.’ I do not believe that Rollo means that women would choose to be ignorant of themselves. They may want to be ignorant of the process of seduction, of how masculinity works and why they’re attracted to it, that I can understand. But that does… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

The two cases you present would seem to simply be a rewording of the same case. The problem is that the biologically rational basis of women’s mating and survival strategies are inherently broken by understanding them. There is an innate resistance to breaking your own survival strategies. It manifests as fear, and women are notoriously more fearful than men. They are rationally irrational. If women become overtly aware of their strategies they effectively cease to be women. How many really feminine women are there at the higher levels of physics and engineering? As an undergrad one of the top performers… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Jeremy You’re right, I phrased that poorly. I meant more that women want to be ignorant of the way their motivations and drives are being influenced by factors around them. But even that isn’t quite right. Women are constantly fascinated by their feelings and emotions, they want to understand why they feel the way they do and what others are feeling like around them. But a dry ‘well your biological drives xyz’ bores or even repulses them. They want their feelings explained in the language of feelings, not the language of logic or science. And that goes for their self-discovery… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” Her very rejections are a way of saying, “Not like this. Like this.” ” When playing the violin I have been approached a number of times by people wanting to know who my teacher was. When I tell them I had no teacher they often express outright disbelief, as based on my playing they insist that I not only must have had a teacher, but that teacher must have been notable enough that they would recognize the name. At which point what I can offer them is that the violin itself taught me how to play it. You act… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@kfg Quite so. Mere technical mastery would never provoke such a response. “Once in the hoary ages in the Ravine of Lungmen stood a Kiri tree, a veritable king of the forest. It reared its head to talk to the stars; its roots struck deep into the earth, mingling their bronzed coils with those of the silver dragon that slept beneath. And it came to pass that a mighty wizard made of this tree a wondrous harp, whose stubborn spirit should be tamed but by the greatest of musicians. For long the instrument was treasured by the Emperor of China,… Read more »

Jeremy
7 years ago

I had a response typed up Forge, but I didn’t submit it because I didn’t feel like it actually contributed anything to the discussion. What I would say is that I don’t believe that the language of feelings, nor the language of logic are out of reach of either sex. I would also say that full understanding only comes when you’re open to both, however painful your non-native language might be.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

Sounds good dude.

I agree, this isn’t some binary ‘man/woman’ thing. Learning to do well with women does entail learning some of their ‘language’ internally, how they tick. It’s also quite helpful in creative endeavors. And I’m not suggesting that women are incapable of logic – far from it. It’s just typically prioritized and framed differently.

theasdgamer
7 years ago

Communicating with women–a field report. Last night was a date night with Mrs. Gamer. She wasn’t feeling well at the end–too much booze, which caused her GI discomfort. No fireworks. No harm, no foul. These things happen occasionally. Maybe once every six months or year. This a.m. I woke up and Mrs. Gamer greeted me cheerfully, using an endearment. I didn’t respond. Mrs. Gamer needed my help finding something and I helped and found what she needed, but spoke minimally and didn’t touch her. She caressed me once and I continued to ignore her. I went downstairs to my PC… Read more »

trackback
7 years ago

[…] the Captain of My Boat dropped this comment in the This is now thread (emphasis […]

Get This!
Get This!
7 years ago

A Thank You Letter to the Men Who Didn’t Have the Balls to Claim Me Same story, different spin: the attractive woman in the Epiphany Phase is not only openly flaunting her hypergamy, but trying to sell potential Beta suitors on the idea that, not only were her years boning Aphas an essential part of her “journey,” and taught her to “embrace her Wild” but in actual fact the “real man” will be the one who has the “balls to claim her” after all that (AND of course he’ll need to “respect her Wild” which apparently reserves her rights to… Read more »

trackback
6 years ago

[…] I also outlined the underlying plan involved in ensuring this strategy in This is now. […]

190
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x
%d bloggers like this: