Changing Your Programming

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Changing Your Programming

I mentioned in the first book that I am not a motivational speaker.

I’m not anyone’s savior and I would rather men be their own self-sustaining solutions to becoming the men they want and need to be – not a Rollo Tomassi success story, but their own success stories.

That said, let me also add that I would not be writing what I do if I thought that biological determinism, circumstance and social conditioning were insurmountable factors in any Man’s life. Men can accomplish great things through acts of will and determination. God willing, they can be masters of those circumstances and most importantly masters of themselves.

With a healthy understanding, respect and awareness of what influences his own condition, a Man can overcome and thrive within the context of them – but he must first be aware of, and accepting of, the conditions in which he operates and maneuvers.

You may not be able to control the actions of others, you may not be able to account for women’s Hypergamy, but you can be prepared for them, you can protect yourself from the consequences of them and you can be ready to make educated decisions of your own based upon that knowledge.

You can unplug.

You can change your programming, and you can live a better life no matter your demographic, age, past regrets or present circumstances.

These are the last words from The Rational Male – Preventive Medicine. I wrote something similar in the first book too, but I’m quoting them here because they are just as important now as they were when I was writing them then. I’m not now nor have I ever been interested in creating a cult of Rollo. I’m not interested in creating better men, I’m interested in those men making themselves better men.

Descriptions and Prescriptions

You’ll have to forgive me, I wrote this part about a year ago, but I think it’s still relevant now. In part 4 of Preventative Medicine a commenter (who, for the record is not an InCel by any stretch) asked me why I had no real prescriptive plan for men to follow with regards to ‘preventing’ or avoiding the bad decisions associated with the time line I laid out in that series. This was my response:

Imagine for a moment I had the temerity to presume that I know exactly what a 60 year old reader experiences in his personal life with a post-menopausal wife. I could take a good stab at it, but anything specific I could prescribe for him would be based on my best-guess speculations and according to how I’ve observed and detailed things in this series or any of my past posts.

From my earliest posts at SoSuave (in 2004) I’ve had men ask me for some ‘medicine’ for their condition; some personalized plan that will work for them. This sentiment is exactly what makes PUA and manosphere ‘self-help’ speakers sell DVDs and seats at seminars. They claim to have the cure. I say that’s bullshit.

I’m not in the business of cures, I’m in the business of diagnoses. Imagine a PUA guru attempting to force fit their plans to accommodate that 60 year old man’s situation. Athol Kay makes attempts to remedy married men’s (non) sex lives, but what’s his real success rate? Is it even measurable? Even Athol recognizes that his MMSL outline is just a map, a diagnosis, that men have to modify for themselves per their individual experience and demographic. You see, your cure, your plan of action isn’t what another man’s will be, or your future son’s, or anyone else reading my work. I can give you a map, but you still have to make your own trail. I’m not a savior, you are your savior

Short version: I’m not interested in making men be better men, I’m interested in men making themselves better Men.

What’s more legitimate, my prescribing some course or template to follow that leads a man to a success that ultimately I define for a reader, or my laying out an accurate landscape for his better understanding and he creates his own success with it?

Are you your success or my success? I’d rather a Man be his own.

Most men already suspect they know what the keys are, and most even know how to use them, but what they really want is confirmation that they actually have the keys.

My approach to Game is defined in much broader terms than simply ‘how to get girls’, and I think for the better part of the manosphere the understanding of Game has evolved beyond rote memorization of scripts and plans. It’s gotten to a stage where even the most enthusiastic proponents of PUA techniques acknowledge a need for an individualized approach to relating and interacting with women based on a broader applied understanding of feminine psychology, sociology and the particular conditions that apply to themselves as well as the women they’re interacting with.

It’s been noted before, my approach to Game / Red Pill awareness is descriptive, not prescriptive.

I’m humbled by the men who email me and let me know how something I’ve written or shined a light on for them has saved them from suicide or some particular hell they would’ve endured longer in. For the most part though I get email and comments from men who tell me that they have built better lives for themselves because a Red Pill awareness made their situations more intelligible. I don’t sell a program or a prescription because each man’s circumstance is different, his acculturation is different, his ethnicity, society, upbringing, body composition and mental faculties are all different.

But we are all men. If the Red Pill is anything it’s a consortium of men who relate their individual experiences about women, about themselves and about their circumstances in what’s now become a feminine-primary social order. As I’ve stated in the past, I’m humbled and flattered to be considered one of the pillars of Red Pill awareness, but most of what I write is the result of piecing together the related experiences of other men.

I didn’t create the Red Pill, I just describe that awareness in terms I think are intelligible. I connect dots, but much of those dots are presented to me by a collective of men who’ve had common experiences. If those dots don’t follow, if those dots would be better connected in another way, I expect the Men who make up Red Pill awareness to offer their new ideas in an open exchange, in a marketplace of ideas.

Sometimes that marketplace gets weighed down with disingenuous critics, trolls and attention seekers, but this is the price, I believe, is necessary to distill and test the strength of those ideas. Only in a crucible of open debate where all are encouraged to participate can those ideas be sussed out.

Men with questions don’t frighten me; men with no questions do.

Law 18: Do Not Build Fortresses to Protect Yourself— Isolation is Dangerous
The world is dangerous and enemies are everywhere— everyone has to protect themselves. A fortress seems the safest. But isolation exposes you to more dangers than it protects you from-it cuts you off from valuable information, it makes you conspicuous and an easy target. Better to circulate among people, find allies, mingle. You are shielded from your enemies by the crowd.

From Nursing Power:

A handful of my male readers often ask why I don’t moderate comments, or that the message of Rational Male would be better served if I banned certain commenters. I’ve mentioned on several posts and threads as to why I won’t ever do that (except for blatant spamming), but in a nutshell it’s my fundamental belief that the validity of any premise or idea should be able to withstand public debate. People who aren’t confident of the strength of their assertions or ideas, or are more concerned with profiting from the branding of those weak assertions than they are in truth, are the first to cry about the harshness of their critics and kill all dissent as well as all discourse about those assertions.

That’s the primary reason I’ve never moderated; if people think I’m full of shit I’m all ears – I’m not so arrogant as to think I’ve thought of every angle about any idea I express here or on any other forum. However, the second reason I don’t censor, ban users or delete comments is that I believe it’s useful to have critics (usually women or fem-men) provide the gallery with examples of exactly the mentality or dynamic I’m describing in an essay. With a fair amount of predictability, a blue pill male or an upset woman will just as often prove my point for me and serve as a model for what I’ve described.

I never intentionally try to make rubes out of the critics I know will chime in about something, but I will sometimes leave out certain considerations I may have already thought about something, knowing it will get picked up on by a critic. I do this on occasion because the I know that the “ah hah! I got him, he forgot about X,Y, Z” moment serves as a better teaching tool and confirms for me that a critic does in fact comprehend what I’m going on about.

Last week Roosh came out against the various tribes of Game such as it is. While I understand his intent I must disagree with his methods. A couple of weeks ago I got into a bit of political discourse with regard to how the Feminine Imperative and how Hypergamy influences social dynamics. That post generated a lot of conversation, but from it I made this statement:

It’s my opinion that red pill awareness needs to remain fundamentally apolitical, non-racial and non-religious because the moment the Red Pill is associated with any social or religious movement, you co-brand it with an ideology, and the validity of it will be written off along with any preconceptions associated with that specific ideology.

Furthermore, any co-branding will still be violently disowned by whatever ideology it’s paired with because the Feminine Imperative has already co-opted and trumps the fundaments of that ideology. The fundamental truth is that the manosphere, pro-masculine thought, Red Pill awareness or its issues are an entity of its own.

As most of my readers know I have a great deal of respect for Roosh and I still do. Nothng is going to change that. I think time will tell what direction his push for Neomasculine philosophy truly goes in. As far as what he’s describing in that “new” doctrine there’s not much I disagree with. I’ll take issue with his anti-evolution, anti-evo psych stance. I’ll take issue with his want for some as yet undefined moralism; and not because I don’t think morality or reverence to a higher power shouldn’t be part of it, but rather because it pollutes and distorts open discourse.

I’m not an atheist, anyone who’s read my commentary on Dalrock’s site knows this. That said I don’t think there is a substitute for critical inquiry, and when that is stifled, that’s when we lean over into dogma.

From Moral to the Manosphere:

Putting angel’s or devil’s wings on observations hinders real understanding.

I say that not because I don’t think morality is important in the human experience, but because our interpretations of morality and justice are substantially influenced by the animalistic sides of our natures, and often more than we’re willing to admit to ourselves. Disassociating one’s self from an emotional reaction is difficult enough, but adding layers of moralism to an issue only convolutes a better grasp of breaking it down into its constituent parts. That said, I also understand that emotion and, by degree, a sense of moralism is also characteristic of the human experience, so there needs to be an accounting of this into interpretations of issues that are as complex as the ones debated in the manosphere.

Although I’m aware that observing a process will change it, it’s my practice  not to draw moralistic conclusions in any analysis I make because it adds bias where none is necessary. The problem is that what I (and others in the manosphere) propose is so raw it offends ego-invested sensibilities in people. Offense is really not my intent, but often enough it’s the expected result of dissecting cherished beliefs that seem to contribute to the well being of an individual.

There was a time I sat in a behavioral psychology class back in college. Behaviorism appealed to me because it was very nuts & bolts, not at all like the touchy-feely humanist schools of psychology. Behavior is the only reliable proof of motive. It was cause and effect, modify variables, and watch for behavior.

At one point I began to see that women are masters of operant conditioning – they had the natural reward 99% of men want, sex. Men’s behavior could be modified just by the prospect of sex, and they could also be influenced by negative reinforcement and punishment. It was one thing to make these observation, but quite another to express them in the classroom. Many of the more intelligent minds I dealt with then would adamantly refuse to recognize the truths that operant conditioning played. After I thought about it I understood that they were likewise motivated to deny what I thought was right in front of their faces.

I had connected some uncomfortable dots; dots that had the potential of making a man less desirable for having connected them. This was really the beginning of many more uncomfortable connections I would make later.

Roosh has tried to make a case that the Red Pill community (subred) has now reached critical mass. He sees it as inbred; a community of complainers – and in some instances I can understand that. Debate can often sound like complaining. However, what I get from Roosh now is a need for answers, it seems to me he’s looking for a plan of action. He wants something prescriptive for himself and other men to follow on with. I get it.

He’s still included Red Pill truths as being an important part of his new doctrine and I’d respect him for that, if not for the wholesale disownment of the consortium that’s been the testbed for those truths for so long. As I stated above, I think Neomasculinity may have some merit, I don’t disagree with about 90% of the manifesto Roosh went to great effort to put together. What I disagree with is how he’s initiated all of this. He does no favors to himself with casual dismissals of principles he knows are deeper than he wants to give credit to – in fact most are principles he influenced personally.

As for my part, I’m going to keep doing what I do and that’s making men aware of the world that’s been pulled over their eyes. I will likely have some strong disagreement with Roosh in the future, but as I’m fond of saying unplugging men from the matrix is dirty work. We’re both in the same family, and sometimes brothers will fight, and that’s OK.

I disagree with him that the Red Pill will cease to go on. It may be called something else, but it’s been around before he or I started writing about it. The “Red Pill”, like many other terms, is an abstraction; a place holder for an idea. Don’t like the Matrix movie references? Fine, but the truth is the truth and freely expressed ideas need words to describe them.

Maybe Neomasculinity is the prescription you need, but from what I can gather so far it’s a movement based on exclusion; not inclusion, not on a free exchange of ideas. Maybe the christianized Red Pill of Donalgraeme or Dalrock is a better prescription for you. Maybe you need the inspiration of a guy like Victor Pride and a better outlook on your physique.

Or maybe all you need is a truth and an awareness to help you lift yourself up. Yes, Red Pill awareness can be very depressing in the beginning, I’ve written several posts and book chapters dedicated to helping men come to terms with that, but ultimately it will be that awareness that becomes the catalyst for changing his life.

The Red Pill isn’t one size fits all, you have to tailor your own life with what it shows you.

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Jeremy
8 years ago

@Glenn

If there’s one thing that I’ve learned from TRP, it is to listen to men (of all races, creeds, backgrounds, education and income levels) much more often than I listen to women. No need to fear there.

Glenn
Glenn
8 years ago

@ITTO – Wake the fuck up, there is nothing wrong or inappropriate about my displays of anger here. In fact, I may be one of the few men here with the dignity to actually tell these bitches off in the way they actually deserve. You see, I realize I’m their foil – I want to fast forward beyond all that to a power-based reality, not these rhetorical parlor games these punk-bitches want to engage in. Here’s what I want them to get – which is the same thing I’ve communicated to men here and in my real life. Don’t shit… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Glenn

@Glenn

‘I said I knew “they” hated me – meaning Insanity and Charlotte, very clear from my comments that my anger has been directed at them personally, not all women in general.’

I “hate” you? Really? You’re the one who’s angry with me–as you yourself say–not I with you.

Remember that language loses its power when repeated too often.

insanitybytes22
8 years ago

“She’s dividing us now, in order to destroy our own community….That is how women neuter men…. she playing on your “thirst” Bahaha! Your hysterical shrieking and perpetual emotional meltdown makes me feel very powerful indeed. Dang, I had no idea I was that awesomely significant. I feel like an evil villain or something, perhaps Catwoman. “What’s sad is that you can’t handle that. Why?” I can’t handle what?? I’m not the one having a tantrum here, you are. Dignity, huh? I’m not seeing it in your response. What’s sad is my chronic and perpetual empathy for men such as yourself,… Read more »

Agent P
Agent P
8 years ago

I for one enjoy Glenn’s righteous anger. Sometimes it grates a bit but in general I enjoy it of only as a sign that this “safe space”, to use a term I fucking hate from the SJW crowd, is in fact doing one of the things that it should. I have only skimmed over this thread as I have been trying to quell my addiction for TRM in general so I’ll keep my contributions short. Re: Motherhood, it’s only the raison d’etre for the SMP in the first place. In my experience, it is but one side of a coin… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
8 years ago

I’m with you Glenn, but
“The only rational reaction to Insanity is anger”,
that’s only 2/5ths of the way through the process.
I’d rather my emotion be indifference.

Is This Thing On?
Is This Thing On?
8 years ago

@Glenn, I’ll reiterate a point that seems to have been lost. I’ve never once said there is anything inappropriate about any of the anger. What is inappropriate is the complete lack of male space in this culture. TRM is about as close as we get and that is unfortunate. Rollo has made it clear that the forum is open to anyone. That’s fine. It’s his forum. Since that is his stance however, these women aren’t invading male space are they? They are coming her and acting just like the red pill predicts. I believe that is why Rollo wants them… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
8 years ago

@Guys – A bit more, for us. It may seem that some women like Insanity are our allies because they flack for “traditional” values, whatever the fuck that even means. But that ship has already sailed, guys. We are like the cucumber that has been pickled, we ain’t going back to being a cucumber. Here’s what you really need to know. TradCon women are terrified of men spitting out the traditional bit from their mouths. That way of life was a very good deal for women. Remember, men were shamed and suppressed sexually in the extreme in recent, American Christianity… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Glenn

@Glenn

Actually you’re the one who’s always saying you’re angry.

Yes, I’m a “tradcon,” but one of my tradcon beliefs is that my husband is head of our household. I don’t want a vassal (ugh!); I want a lord. “As the church submits to Christ,” etc.

And I don’t believe that wives should ever deny sex to their husbands. Unless they’re really, really sick. That’s always my first piece of advice to women for having a happy marriage.

Glenn
Glenn
8 years ago

@Sifrellc – You should watch Christopher Hitchens speak about righteous anger at one’s enemies. Tell me, do you hate people who hurt your or want to ruin you? Also, I’m not in some phase – we have very different life experiences. I went through the rage only phase two years ago. Now? I focus my anger on those who I rightfully loathe. That is normal. What’s not normal is suppressing all your righteous anger and calling that evolved or enlightened or some other horseshit. Simple question for you: Are you angry about anything in your life? Do you hate your… Read more »

Chump No More
Chump No More
8 years ago

Didn’t take too much effort to find this…

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/new-dating-game

Apparently, @Charlotte’s well versed/researched in red-pill concepts, game, PUA, the major players in the manosphere, etc… much, much more than she lets on. My guess is she’s purposefully riling folks here up, playing ignorant, to collect material for her next hit piece.

insanitybytes22
8 years ago

“She should know that I’d bury her beaten carcass in the back woods of New Hampshire……They are basically the terrorist with your heart and family held hostage, with a gun to your head.”

Wow, that’s some major repressed rage, and an entitled attitude that outright advocates violence towards women.

If you perceive women as being that all powerful, that all knowing, then you’re actually engaging in a form of goddess worship and assigning us far more power then we are actually worthy of. That’s a rather perverse and dangerous distortion to subscribe to.

Seraph
8 years ago

Well, since we got to 1,000 comments, why not push for 2,000 and see if we can break the internet! Wheee! First, astounding the explosion of this site in regards to comments. True, much of it fueled by Troll bait, but that only means TRM is doing something right, which some people believe it do be doing something very wrong. People do not respond like this to things they do not consider a threat. In regards to dealing with Trolls, I was going to go into long winded discussion about it, but decided against it. “THANK CHRIST!” says the entire… Read more »

Seraph
8 years ago

“Apparently, @Charlotte’s well versed/researched in red-pill concepts, game, PUA, the major players in the manosphere, etc… much, much more than she lets on. My guess is she’s purposefully riling folks here up, playing ignorant, to collect material for her next hit piece.”

Ok, let’s make this clear for all those playing.

The person posting here claiming to be Charlotte Allen is NOT Charlotte Allen.

If ‘Charlotte’ claims otherwise, let her prove she is who she says she is.

insanitybytes22
8 years ago

“Also, I’m not in some phase –” Yes, my point exactly! Some of you red pills make rage a way of life, not a phase. Precisely what I was trying to explain to Tomassi. “Try it out, do a screed of bilious rage at one of these cunts (who I will not respond to). In fact, if we all did that, and just pounded them without mercy, they would soon leave” Yes, pound them without mercy, pour your rage out all over them, bury them in the backwoods somewhere. “I hate my enemies. I loathe…..” Follow this guy if you… Read more »

insanitybytes22
8 years ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

Yes, so?? Who said the world was fair and equal? Male anger is scary and female anger is transformative. That’s because women tend to internalize, while men externalize. Social conditioning, biology, etc. Women are actually far more dangerous when they don’t appear angry at all.

I think one of your trolls may have hit on the truth, some of you do seem trapped in never ending V-envy.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
8 years ago

Lol, you don’t know how much Glenn is enjoying this Insanity. I’ve told you before, you don’t understand male anger at all.

Get off your surfboard, you’re jumping the shark.

Jeremy
8 years ago

Did Glenn just troll the trolls?

*golf clap*

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
8 years ago

@Glenn “What’s not normal is suppressing all your righteous anger and calling that evolved or enlightened or some other horseshit. Simple question for you: Are you angry about anything in your life? Do you hate your enemies? Or have hate and anger been expiated from you due to your apparent superiority? Think carefully about what I’m saying here, as I’m not the person you seem to think I am.” I’m not superior Glenn. I know damn well where hubris will get me. I just think indifference is a better game tactic. I’ve been angry about things in my life. I… Read more »

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“Some are very good with their bait, making you think there might be SOME shred of rationality in there you can reach.” I did that with the Insane One at the overtly Christian tradcon/reactionary sites she used to frequent, before they finally, after years of putting up with her, banned her ass. So here she is, because her “own” don’t want her. I did so with Good Charlotte as well, although she manages her presence more tactically, going into remission for periods of time, staging an outbreak, and then pulling back before she gets herself banned. These particular ants have… Read more »

Seraph
8 years ago

From Insanity’s Blog: <i"Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil.…….Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. Ephesians 4 Insanity on TRM: “Bahahaha! That’s the spirit, boys. Refuse to engage IN ALL CAPS!!!” For the Lord sayeth upon his followers, useth the edifying words, providing moral or intellectual instruction… Read more »

Seraph
8 years ago

I did so with Good Charlotte as well, although she manages her presence more tactically, going into remission for periods of time, staging an outbreak, and then pulling back before she gets herself banned…

Or before she gets her ass handed her in debate.

Yeah, I noticed that.

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Seraph

@Seraph

But remember–I’m not really Charlotte Allen. I’m someone else.

lh
lh
8 years ago

“At least feminists are naked in their aggression – tradcon broads? They are the shiv wrapped in silk. Wake up.” Very true, I called it “making good use of clueless betas” a few pages back. Your analysis on how religion plays into it is also very accurate. I’d go even further: the whole idea of “God loves you” or “Holy Mother loves you” has a function to give men the love (or it’s illusion) so the wife doesn’t have to do the job. In the old ways it was a tool to improve inner game. Once one understands how deep… Read more »

lh
lh
8 years ago

And don’t call on me for Insanity and Charlotte waking back up in FI mode. You called for them to play, now play with them.

Seraph
8 years ago

But remember–I’m not really Charlotte Allen. I’m someone else.

Evasion…so unlike you…whoever you are.

I rest my case.

Jack LeBear
Jack LeBear
8 years ago

@ Badpainter I appreciate the insight, clarity and wisdom of your comments. It reminds me of feidelbogen: http://antimisandry.com/attachments/campaigns-news/3043d1387763793-poison-manifesto.pdf Let us not forget that feminism is the reason that the FI is running amok to the point of self destruction. Some women are smart enough to realize that women will be the ultimate losers in this gender war. That’s why there are women MRAs and counter-feminists. Circular firing squad behavior is kind of dumb when there is a big picture to be addressed. Just because insanity uses her real email address linked to a blog doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a… Read more »

Shiva H. P.
Shiva H. P.
8 years ago

@lh “the US is positioned quite well for that information age.” No doubt about it. But it does not do anything for most of americans. If those in Silicon valley earning most profits still spend their money on European wine, Chines merchandise and South east asian vacations or Greek isles, it does not trickle down to rest of americans. “And that’s what I was talking about: Middle-Class betas (sorry for that insult, but that’s how it is) are getting the shaft so the Valley and Wall Street alphas can strive.” Adding to your point, Also revenue per employee is increasing… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
8 years ago

@All – Consider that the shaming of male “hate” and anger and rage etc. is a primary FI informed meme which women (not just feminists) use to neuter men. Ask yourself this? How did this anodyne society we live in come about? When I was a kid? Male violence and rage was much more a part of society and was not shamed. Example: While my Dad was a madman in some real ways, he also brooked no shit from people pretty righteously. One day while driving, a man cut him off in his car, quite dangerously, while with my pregnant… Read more »

Shiva H. P.
Shiva H. P.
8 years ago

“These days I have a standard briefing for such kids, I tell the truth. “Hey kid, your mother wants you to call home, she thinks you’ll be nervous and afraid to stay the night, the truth is it’s your mother who is afraid and feeling lonely, so just know that before you call her.”. It’s amazing, it works every time, the little kid buoys up their mom and assuages her insecurities and they invariably stay over without so much as a breath of concern. To me it’s been very instructive of the real job of children for most women, be… Read more »

Jeremy
8 years ago

I wonder, do Insanity and Charlotte’s husbands talk to them like that?

Insanity and Charlotte’s husbands, should they exist, are beta enough that those two women come here to get the masculine-pushback they crave.

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy

@Jeremy

Not my husband–he’s super alpha, which is why I adore him. You’re projecting.

Jeremy
8 years ago

A woman attempting to define alpha is like a man trying to tell a woman how to use make-up.

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy

@Jeremy

Women don’t have to “define” alpha. They know alpha and respond accordingly.

Jeremy
8 years ago

I also find it curious how often the fem-trolls try to use the word “projecting”. I’ve never seen them use it correctly. TRP uses the term “projecting” because people (particularly solipsistic people) often project their own experience onto others, expecting other people to think as they do. Charlotte demonstrates right there she has no idea what the term means, as there is no way I was projecting any experience of mine onto women. I’ve never been married, and I’ve never given a wife pushback, nor have I experienced any difference in behavior from an SO for doing so. Honestly, they… Read more »

lh
lh
8 years ago

Chump No More
June 1st, 2015 at 11:52 am

Didn’t take too much effort to find this…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/new-dating-game

“..he introduced Courtney to his dog: “Say hello to the new slut.”” Damn

It’s quite nice towards Roissy and the analysis isn’t bad either. The one thing Charlotte doesn’t see is how this new dating world is fun for the hot 20 year olds. Of course the new world is very bad and very cruel to older or less attractive women, but that’s not all of them.

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  lh

@ih Actually, I agree that the dating world I described IS a lot of fun for 20-year-olds. They are at the height of their beauty and sexual power. Men drool over them.The problem for a lot of those girls these days is that they don’t use that beauty and sexual power to land husbands instead of indulging in the dating world aka sexual free-for-all I described. Then, when they are getting up to age 30 and beyond, and they are no longer at that peak, they finally start thinking about marriage–and it can be rough for them. And it starts… Read more »

Vulpine
Vulpine
8 years ago

When I first discovered the “manosphere”, it was in the context of “PUA”, or “Pick-Up Artistry”. The knowledge I was ingesting was geared to “get more women/pussy”. What I came to realize, and I think this is the disconnect for those who hate the manosphere, is that there are two sides: light and dark, good and evil, black and white. On the dark side of “the force” that is the manosphere, there is the notion of “fake it until you make it”. Which, translated, amounts to being a fraud until you get laid. That didn’t sit well with me, as… Read more »

lh
lh
8 years ago

@Glenn: “But my GF? She goes crazy, telling me if that I ever act that way around her again she will break up with me.” It’s a shit-test again. It’s not about morals or what you are allowed to do. It’s her being afraid because you lost control over your feelings, a loss of frame. That is indeed not allowed, it scares them. What did your father do to preserve his frame in such situations? I personally have quite good success with my rage and women if I break it in between. Like all rage, hot blood, then suddenly reframe,… Read more »

longgone
longgone
8 years ago

“Harlotte is the protector “Butch” and bytes is bottom.” Like Hill & Humus…

Shiva H. P.
Shiva H. P.
8 years ago

@lh “Gold trumps bitcoin because gold doesn’t need coal to burn in a power plant in order to make electricity that runs over miles of wire to eventually run a computer that is networked with equally fallible computers around the world. Gold is gold. Bitcoin is simply replacing a paper fiat currency with an even less stable, electricity-dependent one. You need to have a power cord on your wallet? Absurd.” Thanks for writing that up, so I donot have to. But I will add, “Even a barbarian knows value of gold, bit coin is known only among the minuscule of… Read more »

Mike
Mike
8 years ago

Gentlemen, this “white hot rage” (mentioned by Glenn and expressed by many others) directed at women as a result of RP knowledge is counterproductive to both personal game and society in general. First of all, it reveals the lingering bitterness and resentment oozing from festering emotional scars left by rejection, dashed hopes and shattered dreams of a beta still struggling to assimilate RP insights. It is based on an incomplete understanding of what the RP actually indicates about the nature of women. AF/BB, hypergamy, the Stockholm/War Bride syndrome, shit testing, social proof seeking and the FI all make sense from… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
8 years ago

@Vulpine, I like your chapter one @1:59. Well said. Why did you make us read through 1025 comments before you finally coughed that up? “Simply put, instead of faking being a man of value, I put my effort into becoming/being a valuable male instead. By becoming “the real deal”, I had real confidence, real value: I proactively eliminated the need to lie/trick/steal pussy, as it was thrown at me voluntarily, as I was truly valuable. By becoming a positive masculine male, not only did I benefit, but also any women I chose to be with me: the women get a… Read more »

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“So let’s try to cut them some slack.”

They have, at present, been given so much slack that the string will no longer sound.

Seraph
8 years ago

Another ‘Charlotte’ Translation Not my husband–he’s super alpha, which is why I adore him. He’s not just Alpha, he’s super alpha. One might say he is super, duper Alpha. One might even say he is superduper cala fragilistic expialidocious! I often tell him that while we are making sweet passionate love which might explain why he often turns me over and buries my face in the pillow. Then again, it could be my face… Anyway, he’s so super-alpha that often runs around in red and blue tights with a big ‘A’ with his chest, not to brag or because he… Read more »

longgone
longgone
8 years ago

Char “@ih Actually, I agree that the dating world I described IS a lot of fun for 20-year-olds. They are at the height of their beauty and sexual power. Men drool over them.The problem for a lot of those girls these days is that they don’t use that beauty and sexual power to land husbands instead of indulging in the dating world aka sexual free-for-all I described. Then, when they are getting up to age 30 and beyond, and they are no longer at that peak, they finally start thinking about marriage–and it can be rough for them. And it… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
8 years ago

@LH – I’m getting like Rollo in that I leave traps in my comments now. I thought someone might conflate reciprocity with relational equity. The two are not the same. And I’ve dated women who submitted to me and appreciated my dominance, it’s actually a great balance to have in a relationship. I’m happy running some things, she runs others. Travel, logistics, planning – I’m in charge. Deciding which restaurant to go to or the kind of bath towels to get, I don’t give a shit. Leadership is not earned, it is taken. Submission isn’t asked for, but it has… Read more »

longgone
longgone
8 years ago

Seraph,

“He’s not just Alpha, he’s super alpha.

One might say he is super, duper Alpha”

He’s MYG!

Vulpine
Vulpine
8 years ago

@sifrellc

I’m terribly sorry for making you read 1000 posts. I know, I could’ve told you last week that I was going to post this now, but, I didn’t, and I’m horribly ashamed of applying such overwhelming force upon you. But, I was off being a valuable male in real life, so, I wasn’t on here being virtually valuable. Please forgive me.

LoL@Seraph: “risk severe de-hydration”

&

lol@ ‘women only do the nastiest shit for a Klondike bar’

Classic.

Glenn
Glenn
8 years ago

All. Also note how Insanity picks up on the comment about what I want a woman to think about me if she decided to steal my family from me. Tell me, what is the appropriate reaction towards someone who steals my family? To someone who promises, before God and her family and entire community and takes a solemn oath to love and respect me but just changes her mind one day? Nothing bad happens, she just doesn’t get wet for me anymore, and she’s 32 now, and knows her value is fading fast. Aging is tragic for a super hot… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Glenn

@Glenn

Aging is tragic for a super hot young woman – you know, the kind of girls Charlotte and Insanity imagine they once were”

Alas, I was never “super hot.” I’m a butterface with a slender figure. Fortunately I met a non-beta guy whose bare threshold of female attractiveness I happened to meet. (Plenty of competition, though, with the genuinely super-hot redhead he was messing around with when we met.) Your ex-wife would have found me far too nerdy to spend any time with. Horrible that she broke her vows.

lh
lh
8 years ago

@Charlotte: Back in my BluePill days I also believed the deal would be for the women to give her youth and sexiness early and for the man to stay with that after she got old. But you cannot make unseen what has shown up. And let’s be honest: the sex and passion was always lacking in that model. The question today is why a man should stick with an aging ex-beauty instead of going for something younger and hotter? I think that deal doesn’t even work for smart young girls anymore (if they exist). It’s over, we’ll have to deal… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  lh

@ih I dunno–lots of guys stick with aging ex-beauties–because women who were beautiful in their youth usually look pretty good when they get old. My father stuck with the aging ex-beauty known as my mother (actually, she still looks great for a 93-year-old) for nearly 60 years. Men get wife-goggles. With their capacity for unconditional love, they get romantically attached to the women who are the mothers of their children, make nice homes for them, and are good companions whom they like to spend time with. It really does happen. Look at Keith Williams and Patti Hansen. She’s a classic… Read more »

redlight
redlight
8 years ago

“So when men ‘collude’ to bypass those filters not only is it offensive, but it’s angering for women because it poses the threat of her not being in control of her own selection” and then we have Rollo must be wrong, or he forgot motherhood, or this is just male anger, or I’m a snowflake that doesn’t melt. really posting any comment that distracts that Rollo has 100% nailed it Now with Open Hypergamy it is amusing to watch recent shows like the Mindy Project and see how TRP/TRM unerringly predicts every move For myself I had determined a lot… Read more »

M Simon
8 years ago

insanitybytes22
June 1st, 2015 at 8:58 am

The FI as it relates to government, run mostly by men, is only a tool being exploited by government to oppress men. The FI has no power, except that that is enforced and backed up by other men.

This is true. Mostly. But who votes for the Democrats that implement it and the Republicans who won’t reverse it?

There is a certain Party with a libertarian wing. I support that wing. And the Senator who is currently rolling back a bit of government.

lh
lh
8 years ago

@Glenn: I didn’t attack you because of your rage, I respect it and I like it. And if you ask me, the girls here do too. But I think you could understand and use it’s “game-power” better – by showing women it’s not an accident, but true power. Regarding violence vs. women: I don’t have this “don’t beat women” thing. Some violence always worked for me, starting at the kindergarten, when I broke the nose of a much older and bigger girl distressing me. But losing it, beating out of a loss of frame, is not good. If it has… Read more »

lh
lh
8 years ago

@longgone: Thx for caring for my name, it’s actually Lukas. But please: No bitch-war over here, ok?

M Simon
8 years ago

lh June 1st, 2015 at 3:48 pm Weeeeeeeeeeeeell we have a little problem here. Yeah the new world is fine for Alphas. But what happens when the Betas stop producing? We have a nation of basement boys growing up. No problem now. But what about 10 years down the line? We are already below replacement rate when it comes to reproduction. To put not too fine a gloss on it – what we are doing is not sustainable. This is how civilization works: “will work for pussy” and he corollary “no pussy, no work”. We used to have laws about… Read more »

Jeremy
8 years ago

Women only know alpha when it bites them in the ass. Beyond that they’re as blind as bats at what really turns them on. This is why women literally can’t explain why they’ll cheat or leave one man for someone they’ve been with for years. They have the absolute worst knowledge of their own attraction, so when someone they thought was “alpha” becomes exposed as less alpha than someone else, women literally jump ship as if the 10+ years they just spent with one man never existed. Women literally live in a world where their equivalent of male cleavage or… Read more »

Seraph
8 years ago

Another Charlotte Translation Actually, I agree that the dating world I described IS a lot of fun for 20-year-olds. I know that seems to contradict my earlier assertions than men are having all the fun, exploiting young women for their own selfish desires, but being a sock-puppet means never having to be accountable for your inconsistency or hypocrisy. So, bite me. They are at the height of their beauty and sexual power. Men drool over them. Again, this may seem to contradict my earlier implications that men are unfairly taking advantage of young innocent girls, by acknowledging the considerable power… Read more »

M Simon
8 years ago

Jeremy
June 1st, 2015 at 10:37 am

Crypto-currency in blockchain format needs no asset backing.

But think of the INTRINSIC value if it was asset backed and paid dividends. Better than gold.

I have a buddy working on this.

Leave a comment here: http://classicalvalues.com/2015/05/breast-feed/ and I can extract your e-mail from the comment. I can put you in touch with my friend. You might be of some use to each other.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“will work for pussy”

When I was 13 I went to work for a 10″ Newtonian primary. I still have it. In all these years it’s never given me any shit. There are men who will work for nice things, if they are given some expectation of being able to keep them.

lh
lh
8 years ago

@M Simon: I’m well aware of that issue and wrote about it earlier. But we are marching into a world where the machines do the work anyway. And capitalism doesn’t work in that world, machines don’t buy stuff. So far the problem of hyperproductivity was dealt with by creating lots of bullshit-jobs (another great idea from David Graeber, you can google it) like in marketing or finance. That will only work so far. We need something new anyway and I don’t know what it may be. Interesting times.

lh
lh
8 years ago

“…guy whose bare threshold of female attractiveness I happened to meet”

That is the definition of “alpha” as seen by a women.

Jeremy
8 years ago

@M Simon This is painful for many people to accept, but there is no such thing as intrinsic value. There are, however intrinsic properties. The value of any single thing is based on those properties and their particular usefulness to mankind at the time. Gold and Silver had unique properties to any other item mankind could get its hands on for many thousands of years. It has those properties still (though they are less unique now). Because of those properties, they became the greatest way of keeping track of “stored labor” worldwide that anyone has ever seen. What mankind really… Read more »

lh
lh
8 years ago

“Men get wife-goggles. With their capacity for unconditional love, they get romantically attached to the women who are the mothers of their children, make nice homes for them, and are good companions whom they like to spend time with. It really does happen.”

I know, my parents are no different. But the term in the manosphere for it is “betaisation”. If it happens as the women hit the wall, it can work. If it happens before (and it usually does if the women is too young) it leads to divorce.

Seraph
8 years ago

Another Charlotte Translation Alas, I was never “super hot.” I was never anything remotely resembling hot. Hell, I am not even anything remotely resembling Charlotte Allen! I’m a butterface with a slender figure. I’m unattractive and lack a shapely figure to compensate for it. Life is cruel. Fortunately I met a non-beta guy He was Omega. No…I WISH I meant a Frat boy! whose bare threshold of female attractiveness I happened to meet. I had a pulse, and he did not have to move too fast to catch me. (Plenty of competition, though, with the genuinely super-hot redhead he was… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Seraph

@Seraph

Ha ha! My husband WAS a frat guy. At Yale.

And I agree that many women are repulsed and annoyed by me.

M Simon
8 years ago

Glenn June 1st, 2015 at 2:49 pm Too bad you have never participated in an aerospace design review. It is no holds barred. Even management can get criticized for creating the wrong specifications. I always loved getting reviewed. I design clean. Clear. With thought given to every part included or not included. OTOH I have seen engineers leave crushed wanting to go in a corner and cry. This culture is in part why airplanes do not fall out of the sky very often. Anyway. I like the freewheelin here. Keeps me on my toes. Give it your best shot. I… Read more »

M Simon
8 years ago

Jeremy
June 1st, 2015 at 4:54 pm

You make good points. And I accept them. None the less improvements can be made.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
8 years ago

@Jeremy Money is really nothing more than the ability to peacefully, voluntarily exchange stored labor. In the end we all have only one resource. It is of a limited, unknown amount. That resource is time. Money is nothing more than an abstraction for time. You’re exchanging your time for the time of others. Some peoples’ time is more valuable than others, hence they are paid more. Criminals pay for involuntarily taking time from others through monetary compensation (time abstraction) all the way up to the death penalty (the loss of all their remaining time). In the end it’s all about… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
8 years ago

Mike – “So let’s try to cut them some slack.” Been there done that. Fuck that. No. The current model expects men to arrive fully formed in their perfection if they wish to obtain and retain the benefits of having women as positive contributors to their lives. They won’t be there to provide any meaningful support in the building process. As such I won’t be cutting any slack. I will evaluate their performance and judge without mercy, same as they do. I will be as opportunistic same as they are. Any who fail to evolve along MY chosen path will… Read more »

M Simon
8 years ago

lh June 1st, 2015 at 4:43 pm You realize that history – so far – is against you. What actually happens is the value of a given kind of labor changes. Making cloth now has near zero value except for some artisan types. What has value is designing and making clothing. And the making might go to zero. Leaving designing. I have a buddy that makes quilting machines. So quilting has lost its value. But designing quilts? More valuable than ever. If we quit making b*shite jobs we maybe could rationalize our production. An economy built on theft is not… Read more »

lh
lh
8 years ago

Glenn June 1st, 2015 at 3:14 pm “Tell me, if I didn’t have the impulse to kill her for doing that, is there anyone else I could justifiably have the impulse to kill?” That goes deep, so I’ll pick up on it. I once had that impulse too with a women. I wanted to shot her right into the face with a Glock. It took me a long time getting over the anger and normalize my feelings for her. I felt I had to do it to cleanse my soul of that bitch. It was long ago, long before understanding… Read more »

Mike
Mike
8 years ago

@ Badpainter – Yeah, I pretty much agree with all of that. But being angry at women for their opportunistic “love” makes about as much sense as being angry at mosquitoes for blood sucking. It is just their nature. So, spray on some deet and smack them when they bite but no need to rage against them.

Seraph
8 years ago

Yet Another Charlotte Translation I dunno Much about anything. –lots of guys stick with aging ex-beauties–because women who were beautiful in their youth usually look pretty good when they get old. I’m screwed. My father stuck with the aging ex-beauty known as my mother I write that on her Mother’s Day Card…”To my aging ex-beauty of a mother…” Did I mention I don’t like her either? (actually, she still looks great for a 93-year-old) for nearly 60 years. And this here melon I left out in the sun for a week? It looks GREAT for a melon left out in… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Seraph

@Seraph

Sorry–Keith Richards.

You are entitled to think whatever you like about your mother.

M Simon
8 years ago

Sun Wukong
June 1st, 2015 at 5:10 pm

“Depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.” – Samuel Johnson

Jeremy
8 years ago

That’s because women tend to internalize…

That is bull shit of the highest order:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Woman-Accused-of-Running-Down-Motorcyclist-in-Road-Rage-Killing-CHP-305502841.html

zdr01dz
8 years ago

@ Rollo Tomassi
Droid should interview this mom about her mothering instincts:
N=1. Sloppy thinking bro.

Jeremy
8 years ago

@M Simon

None the less improvements can be made.

Yes, I agree. However I think “linking” gold or silver to crypto is backwards-looking. Better to improve the protocol, imho. I’m not saying bitcoin is the best, it may yet fail. But the solution laid out in Satoshi’s whitepaper is better improved with math than physical objects.

Seraph
8 years ago

Another Charlotte Translation

Ha ha! My husband WAS a frat guy. At Yale.

And I agree that many women are repulsed and annoyed by me.

AHAHHHHAAHHHAHAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Serpah wipes eyes, tries to get up from floor)

Sorry, ‘Charlotte’, did you….(cough)… say something…?

(Looks at translator screen, falls back down to floor)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!

Jeremy
8 years ago

Oh, I forgot the sick part of that news story… it was clearly intentional:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Video-Motorcycle-Road-Rage-Death-Navy-Sailor-San-Diego-305681651.html

lh
lh
8 years ago

@M Simon: We are getting to root of the current problems. Capital investment is done not to create more production, but to increase productivity of that production. Up until the ’70ies wages rose with productivity-gain + inflation, so while the number of workers might get reduced, total wages stayed the same. That way demand could stay the same and new jobs popped up elsewhere. That post-war fordistic consensus broke in the ’70ies. Unions were beaten down, Nixon went to China and the productivity gains now went to the capital side, flooding the financial markets who got bigger and bigger. That’s… Read more »

insanitybytes22
8 years ago

Dominance is not destruction, people. It’s actually a lovely quality in men that many of us appreciate a great deal. Those who equate dominance with declaring all women the enemy and advocating outright violence towards us, actually engage in a perverse kind of misandry.

Seraph
8 years ago

@’Charlotte’,

“Sorry–Keith Richards.”

AHAHAHHHAHHAHHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHHA!

Okay…okay…(sniff)…I’m do-

(snicker)

No, seriously. I’m-

(Tee-Hee)

Sorry, seriously. It’s just that…you think that the only thing hilarious about that last bit was completely F***ing up Keith Richards name…

Oh…I swear…You are more fun than a PS4 once you get going…

Thanks…I needed that.

M Simon
8 years ago

Jeremy June 1st, 2015 at 5:35 pm Well let us think about what is wrong with the current situation and one small area of it at that. The transaction costs of dealing with fractional stock certificates is too high. We have money and 100 share lots to deal with that. Now suppose there was another way. I must say I’m not as up on the topic as I should be. My specialty is electronics and Polywell Fusion. OTOH the friend I have mentioned is right up there with you. And God willing and the creek don’t rise you may be… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
8 years ago

Mike – “So, spray on some deet and smack them when they bite but no need to rage against them.”

In what sense and in what venues? IRL rage is often a waste of time I agree, but here in the virtual arena there’s no reason to hold back. I believe we’re all old enough to understand about the differences between sticks, stones, and words.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
8 years ago

@Jeremy I had a bitch try to do that to me. Once I got out of her way and we were stopped a light, I got off my bike, walked back to her, and started yelling at her to step out of the car if she wanted to kill me. I was ready to put her through her own window. She yelled at me that I shouldn’t be cursing in front of her young daughter sitting in the seat next to her. My response, even in my adrenalin-soaked rage, was to instantly shoot back “YOU DON’T WANT ME CURSING IN… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
8 years ago

Target 1 – “…equate dominance with declaring all women the enemy and advocating outright violence towards us…”

WTF?

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“N=1. Sloppy thinking bro.”

N=1, and I can’t even actually demonstrate that she’s 1, has been your entire line of “reasoning” bro.

Jeremy
8 years ago

Those who equate dominance with declaring all women the enemy and advocating outright violence towards us, actually engage in a perverse kind of misandry. You cannot handle the truth of your existence. Those who perceive men angry at being lied to their entire lives as “advocating outright violence towards {women}” through their words speak from a position of privilege that cannot comprehend the shit men go through to create the world you live in. Lady, we live in a world that has walls, criminals, evil intentions, harsh environments and animals that want to eat us. That means women need to… Read more »

Charlotte Allen
8 years ago
Reply to  Jeremy

@Jeremy

So many people on this thread don’t give a damn what I think–and keep saying so.

lh
lh
8 years ago

@Insanity: Dominance is the sovereignty to choose whether to “engage in a perverse kind of misandry”. It’s not your choice – and for good reason I might add.

Jeremy
8 years ago

@Sun,

Yeah, I guess I should invest in some cameras… :/

Mike
Mike
8 years ago

As Rollo has pointed out many times, men and women love differently. For the most part, women are incapable of idealized male love and women’s performance based, opportunistic love is unnatural for men. This makes perfect sense from an evolutionary perspective. You can afford to love unconditionally when you are the one who is depended upon but when you are the dependent party, this can be very costly. Women would love men the way men want to be loved if they could but their instincts get the best of them. They can’t help it. This is why I say we… Read more »

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

What she is doing is disqualifying a man’s base source of power, so that men can dominate her . . . at her sufferance.

Her fear of men is rooted in the fact that they might, and can, dominate her without asking permission first.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
8 years ago

@Jeremy

I was thinking rear and front mounted 7.62mm “deterrent systems”…

Badpainter
Badpainter
8 years ago

Jeremy that was beautiful.

That Dude
That Dude
8 years ago

@Charlotte: “Women don’t have to “define” alpha. They know alpha and respond accordingly.” While this is very much the truth, I always find it funny how you always have to drag out and apply force to get a truthful statement out of women. @Jeremy: “Women only know alpha when it bites them in the ass. Beyond that they’re as blind as bats at what really turns them on. ” Jeremy, in your comment at June 21st @ 4:23pm, you sound blue pilled to the bone. Tomassi, along with many other bio-evo studies, have explained how women’s sexual selection works. It’s… Read more »

Jeremy
8 years ago

@That Dude Tomassi, along with many other bio-evo studies, have explained how women’s sexual selection works. It’s quite simple, really… to say that “women don’t know what they want” is just another blue-pilled dismissive excuse for not wanting to acknowledge that women have a high amount of choice in thsi sexual market. No. Saying women don’t understand their own attraction cues says nothing about whether such attraction cues exist. You’re misreading what I said to say that everything about Game is a useless excercise. I said nothing of the sort. What I said was that women do not understand their… Read more »

redlight
redlight
8 years ago

Droid interview the Mom (see Rollo link)

D. How is motherhood for you?
M. Fantastic, and what is your cock size?
D. First, can we talk about you being a mom?
M. Do you use condoms?
D. Yes I can, but do you love your child?
M. Of course I do. Can you dominate me in the bedroom?
D. Isn’t being a mother more important?
M. You need to relax, and have fun, why are you so wound up?
D. Well I can’t talk about it right now
M. Oh you poor baby, tell mommy all about it

Seraph
8 years ago

Another Charlotte Translation (got it fixed) So many people on this thread don’t give a damn what I think–and keep saying so. So many people on this thread won’t simply agree with me. They keep asking me troublesome questions for which I don’t have an answer or are embarrassed to answer, even including proving who I am. Just because I refuse to actually defend my positions or stand by my own words, they seem to not take me seriously, as if I am afraid or incapable of defending my positions or standing by my own words. This is very unfair,… Read more »

YaReally
8 years ago

@Glenn @Forge @etc “Lol, you don’t know how much Glenn is enjoying this Insanity. I’ve told you before, you don’t understand male anger at all.” ya I am lol’ing over here. There’s no dude here that actually thinks Glenn is some big rage-monger except trolls. Dude is just swinging at the chubby punching bags because it’s therapeutic and funny, and with any luck they’ll find it distasteful enough to leave. …and yet, they don’t leave. huh, I wonder why that could be. Hint ladies: You can’t laugh at a guy’s raging rant and then ALSO play the “omg you have… Read more »

redlight
redlight
8 years ago

“I know that I need to have children like I know that I need to eat and breathe. Perhaps I wouldn’t die if I didn’t have children but some part of me would wilt and fade … Most women will tell you that they love their children because of the way they make them feel” oh wait, sorry, I miss-typed that quote it was not “children” but “shoes” “Flats, heels, boots, ballets, sandals, clogs, platforms, wedges, strappy, buckled, lace-ups, peep-toes, I love shoes, desire and lust after them. I feel my heart race when I look at shoes I am… Read more »

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

” . . . you will not understand women until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes”

Join the Army.

Jeremy
8 years ago

Women will walk a mile? These girls must not be from Los Angeles.

Seraph
8 years ago

@YaReally, Okay, funs fun, but I gotta call foul, dude: You can’t laugh at a guy’s raging rant and then ALSO play the “omg you have so much scary rage I’m really worried about you” card. THAT looks suspiciously like LOGIC, bro…and that’s ain’t cool. We’re dealing with women here, and you are well aware women do not like logic being used against them when it proves useful to do so. I can’t believe you would stoop so low as to use a logical argument in a discussion with women when it makes them look bad. What’s next, bro? Using… Read more »

M Simon
8 years ago

Jeremy
June 1st, 2015 at 5:35 pm

BTW I was not arguing for backing crypto with gold or silver. I was arguing for backing it with production.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

” I was arguing for backing it with production.”

Production is backed by resources.

zdr01dz
8 years ago

@ That Dude

How is this for “motherly instinct”?

That’s the Alpha Fuck instinct. Or alternately it’s an ex-husband or boyfriend getting revenge.

Some people have a hard time spotting what might be bait.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
8 years ago

@Seraph

YaReally is such an asshole. Which means he’s one more reason they won’t be able to resist this place.

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