As was expected this week, there’s been an extensive and eager effort on the part our feminine-primary social order to once again further shifting the narrative of “toxic” masculinity to ‘masculinity is toxic. I addressed this in Male Control. Directly after the Las Vegas mass shooting we began to see articles from the femosphere decrying the evils of masculinity as being the cause of the violence.
It is no longer enough to foster the falsehood of varieties of masculinity as being “toxic” or “hyper”– now, any masculinity is a disease to society. The Feminine Imperative is all too ready to conflate any semblance of conventional masculinity with mass murder, rape, violence, harassment and any other social malaise that might viably be wiped off on men ‘being’ men. And in the wake of every new tragic act of violence this narrative shift will be more adamantly promoted by misandrist authors.
I covered a lot of this in Positive Masculinity and the Red Pill Parent series of essays, but even when I wrote these the cultural narrative was still promoting a distinction between what was acceptable masculinity and what was ‘toxic’ masculinity. This is what the Village has been instilling in our boys for some time now. Before the loss of Hillary Clinton and the Future is Female militancy took root there was some concession as to what might be considered an acceptable form of masculinity.
Naturally that ‘good’ masculinity was always defined as something uniquely benefitting the feminine. Before this cultural shift the Feminine Imperative still recognized the need it had for a masculinity that could be exploited for its purposes. There was still a need for men to Man Up and Shut Up. To be sure, boys were (and are) still taught by the Village as if they were defective girls. Boys had to be conditioned to hate their own gender in order to grow up into compliant and feminine-identifying men, but there was still a utility in masculinity that the Village recognized. Thus, there was a need to foster some kind of hopeful appreciation in men ‘being of service’ to women’s needs. There still needed to be a carrot for the mule to follow if men were to accept the old books social contract and that was the hope that their usefulness might ever be appreciated and rewarded.
The ‘Broken Boys’
Selling men on the old social contract while playing by the new set of rules worked for the Feminine Imperative throughout the late 80s, 90s and the early 2000s. However, what this narrative shift represents is a turning point in women acknowledging men as no longer (as) useful to their imperative. By 2012 it was the beginning of the End of Men, and there was little doubt, even back then, that we’d have the First Female President in office right after Obama’s exit. In the wake of that obsolescence the idea that masculinity was in any way beneficial to the Feminine Imperative, and maintaining the facade that masculinity in men might have some redeeming aspects, is no longer necessary. The feminine meta-frame has no reason to prompt men into believing their gender has anything ‘good’ to contribute to society. And thus we see the shift from qualified forms of ‘bad’ masculinity – toxic, hyper, Patriarchy, “culture of ____” – to the intended, non-qualified form of all masculinity being bad.
For the moment gyonocentrism must content itself to capitalize on human tragedies to emphasize its new masculinity = bad narrative. The Las Vegas shooting was the first paradigm shift in this respect. Once the obligatory, and now entirely boring, gun control sermons are published as a reason for the carnage, then the demonization of masculinity can be served up.
However, in the case of the most recent Nikolas Cruz shooting the Feminine Imperative gets a double bonus. The message is not only are men and masculinity the reason for all violence ever, but our boys are being taught to be these violent psychopaths because some outdated (and entirely mythical now) macho masculinity is making them so. Our boys, they say, are “broken”.
“Comedian” Michael Ian Black had a rash of post-shooting tweets that sum this narrative up:
Deeper even than the gun problem is this: boys are broken.
— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) February 15, 2018
If you want to hurt a man, the first thing you do is attack his masculinity. Men don’t have the language to understand masculinity as anything other than some version of a caveman because no language exists.
— Michael Ian Black (@michaelianblack) February 15, 2018
Black is a perfect example of a Blue Pill conditioned ‘ally’ of the Feminine Imperative, but his sentiments here sum up exactly the tact that the femosphere has been using for a while now. There will always be a utility in appealing to the old male social contract as a horrible, chauvinistic, misogynistic, insensitive facade of what masculinity should be. It serves the imperative well if the Village can convince the larger populace that boys are still being taught by horrible masculine men and a society that hasn’t existed for 50 years which bully them into being potential Nikolas Cruzs.
They say boys are broken because it’s the only easy explanation that vaguely sounds right in the face of the Village systematically feminizing boys for the past four generation. Boys are “broken” because of an “outdated masculinity” that was replaced with a feminine-primary educational system decades ago. They’ll blame men for perpetuating that lie, and in the next breath blame men for not being “men” enough to engage with these young men so as to deter them from tragedies like this. The Village has been so effective in blurring conventional masculinity that its adherents themselves have no idea what masculinity entails.
When the 2018 Women’s March took place I, and a lot of other men in the sphere, noticed a common theme in the protest placards that mothers were creating for their sons. The message for girls was the standard “girls can do anything” pablum, but for boys the message was all the same:
“BOYS WILL BE BOYS GOOD HUMANS”
The message of today’s Village is that Boys are never to be boys, never to be male, never to be masculine in any positive aspect,…boys are born as not ‘good humans’. At least, boys are not good human beings until they acquiesce to the Village that is teaching them and to the authority of The Future is Female paradigm. In order to create the genderless, masculine-less, gelded men of the future they must get to boys earlier and earlier in their development.
In the interests of full disclosure I’ve had a handful of women defending this ubiquitous messaging tell me that it’s meant to teach boys not to blame their “shitty behavior on just their being male” – boys will be boys – but what even its defenders don’t recognize is the deeper message that boys of this age register; and particularly in an acculturation process that considers them defective girls.
But this is where we’re at in the intersexual environment today. To the imperative men are no longer men today, they are “allies”. This is the next logical step in Removing the Man from our social context. Boys are no longer ‘boys’, and they can only ever be ‘good humans’ so long as they continue their Blue Pill conditioning to become ‘allies’ later.
The following is a reblog of Josh Ishiro Finney’s A Letter to Boys & Young Men of America. Josh had this post and his blog attacked in the wake of the school shooting in Florida this week and I felt it was impactful enough to warrant a reblog here. Having written many a post on the war on conventional masculinity – and really the better part of my book Positive Masculinity – I wanted to extend my support for his commentary.
A response to mass shooting in Florida.
The bodies aren’t even cold yet and already you are being blamed.
Yes you.
All of you.
The boys and young men who will grow up to become one half of America’s future.
Once again, due to society’s failure to raise you, to teach you, to properly guide you on your path to manhood, your mere existence is being held responsible for seventeen more deaths—this time in Florida, and once again, at a school. The headlines of the last few days say it all:
“Guns don’t kill people; men and boys kill people, experts say”
-USA TODAY
“Michael Ian Black reacts to Florida shooting: Boys are broken”
-New York Daily News
“How Gun Violence And Toxic Masculinity Are Linked, In 8 Tweets”
-The Huffington Post
“Toxic white masculinity: The killer that haunts American life”
-Salon
“Toxic Masculinity Is Killing Us”
-The Boston Globe
“Toxic Masculinity Is Killing Us”
-Harpers Bazaar
“Don’t Blame Mental Illness for Mass Shootings; Blame Men”
-Politico
In the handful of decades I’ve been alive, I’ve seen America shift from a culture of responsibility to one of blame. We don’t solve problems anymore. We cry, we pray for, we seek to find closure, and then finally, slaughter a sacrificial lamb for our sins. When I was young and Columbine happened, that lamb was Marilyn Manson and video games. Before that, it was D&D and Twisted Sister. These days, though, as body counts continue to rise and excuses continue to vanish, the lamb America has chosen to sacrifice is you. Rather than take responsibility for the seeds we’ve sown, the culture we built, and the disaster you’ve been left to inherit, we as a nation have chosen to lie to ourselves. To listen and believe those who claim that the answer is simple: “Boys are simply born bad.”
As an aging Gen Xer watching this tragedy unfold, I can’t help but look back at my youth and realize we were the dry run for this “crisis of masculinity” as the media likes to call it.
In my time I’ve watched as fathers were pushed out of the home, separated from their children, and their role in society debased and devalued. Like you, I was taught male behavior was bad behavior. That I was broken and needed to be fixed. Drugs, therapy, mass socialization were required to save me from my most innate instincts—
—the need compete.
—the drive to create.
—the urge to protect.
—the desire for female affection.
Like you, I was told these instincts were not only wrong, but dangerous. That due to my Original Sin of being born a boy, I was destined to mature into a lustful monster and an oppressor of women. All this was burned into me before I even reached college, where campus policy actually assumed all men to be rapists waiting to happen.
It isn’t hard to see how we got here, to an age when America is more than willing to sacrifice its boys. To quote Fight Club, “We’re a generation of men raised by women.” And the women who raised my generation had a saying: All men are pigs. But there’s another saying those same women were enamored with and that is: The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
So here we are, coming close to fifty years of single mothers raising their boys as if they were animals. Two generations of young men raised to believe they’re broken, immoral, and dangerous. That their natural state, if left unchecked and unmedicated, is a sexual ticking time bomb of rape and abuse. Half a century of academia peddling a grim version of history that holds your gender personally responsible for all the wrongs ever to have happened in the world. And a press, that at this very moment, is blaming YOU for every school shooting to have ever occurred.
After all this, how could there not be a crisis of masculinity?
So to the boys and young men of America, believe me when I say it isn’t you who should be apologizing for the state of our world today. This mess was set in motion long before you were born.
You are not bad.
You are not broken.
You are not inherently evil or a sexual abuser in waiting.
You are boys who were robbed of your right to be men.
All your life you’ve been told to act, think, and behave like women. To suppress your passions, your pride, your need to compete and drive to achieve.
Now society is crumbling around us.
Feminizing boys didn’t make better men. It’s resulted in broken homes and shattered families and record suicide rates. It’s destroying any notion of a healthy partnership between men and women, and is pushing us ever closer to total collapse of gender relations.
Boys, we don’t need you to be like women, the world has plenty of women, already.
What the world needs now more than ever is for you to be men.
For you to grow-up, to grow strong, and do what men do.
For it is men’s strength and determination that tamed the wilderness, built civilization, and has kept the world fed despite all predictions we’d all die starving before the year 2000. It’s men’s curiosity that lead us to explore the oceans, to conquer space, and peer into the tiniest of microcosms of the human body. It was men who built the cities we inhabit, the luxuries we enjoy, the medicines that keep us alive. Men built the road, the plumbing, the electrical grid, the phone in your hand, the internet it’s connected to.
Men have always been innovators, explores, defenders, and leaders.
But most importantly, men have always been fathers.
So to the boys and young men of America, please read this and take every word to heart.
The world needs you.
ASD Good to see you back. I guess.😁 But I don’t know any socialist, and that includes Jewish people I actually know. I don’t know what you’ve been reading. Sun hit the nail on the head regarding identity stuff. I’m guilty of it from time to time, but I only talk about it in light of actual things that are actually happening, not legends or group bogeymen. A man can drive himself insane believing everything he reads on face value, especially ifnhe sees his bias as character. The ” owner ” of the company I work for isn’t in the… Read more »
Blax
Don’t forget the horns and stripes…
http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/469771/Love-And-Death-Movie-Clip-What-s-A-Jew-.html
Blax, I dgas about identity politics…I only care if an enemy is attacking me or mine (including my nation or my “race”).
I can act in several ways to defend myself & mine against political enemies…vote, lobby, etc.
I simply don’t believe you when you say that you know Jews, but none are socialists. I know several Jews and they are ALL socialists…and I live in red state flyover country, not in a blue state like nj.
You distract by talking about a gentile socialist foot soldier. Why? Are your beliefs threatened?
Blax, you are distracting again by talking about unemployment nos. Employment nos. are counted without reference to unemployment nos. Workforce participation rate is counted differently from the other two statistics.
You are very desperate to resort to these distractions.
@ASD “I live in red state flyover country, not in a blue state like nj.”
Watch your variables.
…. I simply don’t believe..
Well then. That’s that.
theasdgamer
February 25, 2018 at 4:35 am
Simon, where do you find voluntary socialism?
I thought I explained that.
And I answered the question because I knew the answer.
So why? My guess is 1,000 years of ghetto history.
Fox news is going the way of SNL, this shit is funny.
https://youtu.be/FRI9uynD2EE
Yeah. Chi’s Christy – champion of blue state ideals.
I simply don’t believe that. Lol.
But tell me, a resident of the state, about how ” blue ” we are. From my experience in living here a half century plus, a democrat is elected as gov, fucks up royally, then a Republican is elected gov, fuck up royally as well. The only constant regardless of who’s in charge are high taxes.
We got Christy due to anger. We got our current gov due to anger. Electing politicians because ” mad ” usually ends in disaster.
… Hmmmmm
Trump didn’t carry the tri states, including his hometown, not because they were Democrat havens or socialist hotbeds, lol, it’s because we know trump.
Fox ” news ” has better comedic content than SNL.
Hey guys, It’s important not to get too caught up in these indentity politics / social media politics/causes/ media bullshit etc.Especially when you agree with said causes, I very rarely look at Twitter but yesterday started clicking on other Twitter accounts which were posting on Rollo’s Twitter page. Man was that a big trip, there is a whole outrage machine out there for every issue/every side of the issue. It got me wondering about how much time people are spending posting and compiling all that stuff online, while not focusing on their particular mission/goals. Keep the focus tight, focus on… Read more »
One lesson I’ve learned is that the internet is an odd place. The manosphere even moreso. I have to keep reminding myself that there are over 300 million people here, and billions worldwide.
Outrage is for suckers. Lol.
Re: Blaximus’s “Black Victim Narrative” – Look, it tries to think, lmfao. Blax’s pablum is what passes for intelligent political insight in black political circles. All pose, a few throwaway facts and then must-have nonsense memes. In no particular order: – Those “mass shooting” stats you are using for this year are horse-shit. There have been 18 “mass shootings” as the FBI defines it since 2000. And oh yeah, dipshit, 47% of them were committed by immigrants or children of immigrants. – Random non-political mass violence against schools and other innocents is a human phenomena that happens across cultures and… Read more »
As usual, lol @ Scrib.
@ foxguy ^^^^ exhibit A.
… If you have to argue with everyone, everywhere, all the time…..
Why this happened isn’t a mystery. We do not capture people who are dangerously mentally ill and get them off the street. We used to do so formally, via civil court proceedings. Loughner, the Aurora Shooter, Lanza – none of these should happened, all should have been locked up in institutions. Sorry, if we aren’t going to euthanize the defectives we need to protect ourselves from them. Combine that with the amazing improvements in firearms and ammo in the past 20 years, and voila. Fyi, I carry a Glock 19, so am no a gun enemy. But I know just… Read more »
@Blax – Don’t spout so much rank BS if you don’t want to be called out on it. I wonder, how may hours a week do you spend here? How is that “alpha” behavior in any real way?
Scrib I can’t hear you over the sounds of my happiness, success and awesomeness.
Knowing everything sure makes you grumpy.
..they’re gonna kill us ALL!!!!!!!!!!
Lol. Now that’s definetly not alpha.
“Sure, you can hunt with it for some of the same reasons – doesn’t make it a hunting rifle.” It’s a prairie dog rifle. Or, as it is derisively referred to by those who grew up going to war with proper battle rifles, a “poodle shooter.” As a carbine it’s a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon), not an “assualt” weapon, not even good for prairie dogs (target the size of a golf ball at 300+ yards). It was adopted for military use under the assumption that a less lethal arm was more militarily effective, under the assumption that killing a man… Read more »
I also note that the banning of military rounds (as some countries do) is even stupider than banning rifles with a particular aesthetic. By the Geneva convention military rounds are less lethal, for the same cartidge, than what you can pick up at Walmart.
I think the basic problem that will cause the fall of the western economic and cultural systems stems from gender dynamics IE blank slate equalism, egalitarianism and androgyny.
Sure we have a surplus of fiat currency, debt , racism , narcism , social media , online porn , street drugs , piss poor special interest leadership , globalism , totalitarianism ad infinitum.
Gender dynamics is at the root.
“Gender dynamics is at the root.”
It’s babies, all the way down. Women gestate babies. No society has ever survived losing the support of its women.
On the other hand, no society has ever survived a fiat debt economy either.
So, basically, cover your ass, ’cause we’re hosed.
Absolutely.
In the meantime, enjoy the latest viral video.
@Blax
She just got her hair did and it’s raining, so what’s a single mom to do?
lmao
Western society is definitely under pressure, more than most people realize. The underlying monetary pressures are high, people are checking out mentally, socially, as well as economically. The civic institutions are at all time lows in terms of trust and it will be a downward painful spiral for those who wish to follow it down. The beauty of Western society at it’s zenith and especially at the US zenith, was it allowed the everyday common man to rise up and live a standard of living unseen in human history for the common man, the beta male if you will. We… Read more »
IMO – there are two primary reasons Jews get a disproportional amount of hate (at least in the West), although the second is just a massively expanded part of the first. 1) Extremely high IQs typically put them close to where all the important action is – politicians, lawyers, important officials, judges, etc. People will always lash out at those in power when things go wrong. 2) Jewish people have a massive, massive influence in banking and always have – more than 50% of bank CEOs of the top 20 largest banks in the world are Jews. Due to the… Read more »
boulderhead
February 25, 2018 at 7:16 am
Shouldn’t something be done about female? And women?
boulderhead
February 25, 2018 at 10:06 am
If you look at the root of street drugs you will find interesting things. I suggest McCoy, “The Politics of Heroin” – free on the www.
Did you know Admiral Tojo was involved with a drug cartel? Not to mention the British East India Company (hail to the Queen).
” British East India Company ”
Yup. Not a part of history that’s well known, for some strange reason.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/02/23/21/4987ED7E00000578-0-image-a-67_1519422041567.jpg
beta tells
“She and her guy had only been dating a few weeks”
lol
http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/25/emily-ratajkowski-new-husband-sebastian-bear-mcclard-first-date-surprise-wedding/
https://youtu.be/6jpwqWPKAUc?t=101
“Fifty Shades of Grey” – explained.
http://mommyunderground.com/50-shades-of-sexual-assault-latest-hollywood-movie-glamorizes-abuse-as-hollywood-cheers/
It is a Blue Pill explanation.
Rollo
Won’t happen again…
Walawala
https://www.wired.com/story/the-struggle-to-predictand-preventtoxic-masculinity/
Was with Ivan this afternoon speaking about violence and masculine behavior in modern day culture.
PREACH !!!!
https://twitter.com/beachmuscles/status/967856178620456960
M Simon
“Shouldn’t something be done about female? And women?”
LOL And Cathy Newman should change her name to Newperson or Newcis.
It seems to me that street drugs go back before recorded history, likely a large contributor to homosapien brain size and IQ in a darwinian way.
Also it seems wherever we are fighting wars the drugs produced in those countrys become verry popular in ours for some odd reason. Go figger
http://www.history.com/shows/americas-war-on-drugs/about ” The final chapter of the series examines how the attacks on September 11th intertwined the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, transforming Afghanistan into a narco-state teeming with corruption. It also explores how American intervention in Mexico helped give rise to El Chapo and the Super Cartels, bringing unprecedented levels of violence and sending even more drugs across America’s borders. Five decades into the War on Drugs, a move to legalize marijuana gains momentum, mega-corporations have become richer and more powerful than any nation’s drug cartel, and continuing to rise is the demand for heroin and… Read more »
“Was with Ivan this afternoon speaking about violence and masculine behavior in modern day culture.” Care to use your words and tell us about it.? Without any links? Care to get angry, embrace your dark side, use self discipline, sublimate it without self-supressing yourself and be strong enough to punch someone in the face without actually doing it? And what are you going to do about that Rugby? Time to stop buffering and use outward intention and Action to put one foot in front of the other and choose among the possibilities that present themselves to you. You’ve been around… Read more »
“It seems to me that street drugs go back before recorded history,” They are innate to biology. They go back before humanity. Every frugivore with more than few brain cells likes to get a bit tipsy now and again, and knows how to do it. Koalas have adapted to living life perpetually stoned out of their gourds. I used to have a pretty good poppy patch in my yard, until the woodchucks found them. They LOVE them some poppy. And of course, catnip. Original Olympic athletes all had their “secret potions.” It was considered part of the game, . .… Read more »
boulderhead When I speak to gang members and drug dealers, I usually have a world map on the wall behind me, with particular countries/areas circled in red ink. I always ask, ” where are the drugs coming from? You aren’t growing and processing them, you don’t have planes and boats or tunnels to bring them in, but you will surely go to jail or die because of them.”. Then I ask them why hasn’t anyone snuck a nuke into the country? Why haven’t street drug soldiers armed themselves with RPG’s? I also ask how many of them have seen the… Read more »
” And they almost universally think that opium (native to the Med) is something the Chinese inflicted on us (never occurs to them to wonder how the British got Hong Kong in the first place, if they’re old enough to know that the British had Hong Kong).”
It’s redundant as hell, but I love this guy.
It’s also a huge part of the reason that the British were run off the china mainland.
And once upon a time, cocaine was sold at your neighborhood pharmacy.
and don’t get me started on coca cola….
https://www.livescience.com/41975-does-coca-cola-contain-cocaine.html
http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/The-More-You-Know.jpg
And that’s another thing I find myself continually explaining to the kiddies, that Sherlock Holmes was not an illegal drug user. He could just pop down to the chemist’s on the corner for his fix.
“Care to get angry, embrace your dark side, use self discipline, sublimate it without self-supressing yourself and be strong enough to punch someone in the face without actually doing it? First off getting punched in the face would do me good if it get’s me away from doing the same Damn error’s Props to mersonia My dark side has always been seen by me in the female perpective of interpretation of emotionality. When im alone with myself i see how dark thing’s can get. Holy hell im gone far. You can ask Ivan was with him and he got me… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyhiu_NE46I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBts_CcKh_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlXrxNsmMT8
Blaximus… Damnation…
The largest drug mule service on the planet moves mass volume every day rain sleet or shine.
They wear red white and blue and offer great benefit package.
boulderhead
February 25, 2018 at 6:02 pm
Also it seems wherever we are fighting wars the drugs produced in those countrys become verry popular in ours for some odd reason. Go figger
Ah. You noticed. I miss the war in Thailand. Colombia not so much.
rugby11 February 25, 2018 at 7:04 pm The Dark Side has more allure than the results warrant. I can tell you that from actual practice. At first the effort is small and the results seem big. But then the opposition starts. And on top of that your aura gets so black that even people who don’t usually notice things can tell instantly. When I faced up to all that I changed my act. You can change your act now by giving in to “it is not worth it”. Your anger is costing you at least 10X what it is hurting… Read more »
Blaximus
February 25, 2018 at 6:42 pm
Very interesting. Especially the map story. And the reason you could explain it to them is that they had all the dots. But hadn’t connected them. Lol indeed.
M Simon “The Dark Side has more allure than the results warrant. I can tell you that from actual practice. At first the effort is small and the results seem big. But then the opposition starts. And on top of that your aura gets so black that even people who don’t usually notice things can tell instantly. When I faced up to all that I changed my act. You can change your act now by giving in to “it is not worth it”. Your anger is costing you at least 10X what it is hurting anyone you direct it at.… Read more »
An then I got to thinking. Maybe Wo (as in Whoa, or Woe) might not be such a bad idea. As long as we are improving words.
Or Fe (as in Fee or the beginning of …, Fi, Fo, Fum)
rugby11
February 25, 2018 at 10:11 pm
Camila S. Espinoza
I wholeheartedly hope that feminism becomes so popular, so unavoidable, so repetitive and catchy, that you no longer forget we are people before we are women and men, and equally deserving of taking the same amount of space in this place we call Earth.
deserving? Since when did the world owe you a living? And the “same amount” for everyone? What if some want more and others prefer less?
Besides if you got the kind of masculinity you say you want – you wouldn’t like it.
A bit off topic but just saw this in a local rubbish tabloid, but worth a read, ’cause we all love grid girls, and the article is written by a woman… “It is hard to overstate how regressive modern feminism has become when it applauds an instrument of real, tyrannical misogyny and adopts a puritanical approach that robs women of the opportunity to earn a living. Being a grid girl is not something that all young women aspire to, but to paint it as some hideous example of exploitation is incongruous. These young women choose to work in that capacity… Read more »
M simon that was from a link on Rollo’s twitter
Before i rest found this and wondering about Art and Man creation
https://www.reddit.com/r/aperfectcircle/comments/7xxvl2/maynards_puzzle_solved/?ref=share&ref_source=link
@M Simon February 25, 2018 at 8:40 pm I’m not talking about a dark side outside of one’s self. And not merely a bad side of one’s self. I’m talking about what’s in the soul/heart of a man that he suppresses with his cognitive brain. And it is often for the good. When the heart and desires and feelings align with the cognitive brain. I’m talking in the sense of Jordan Peterson’s channeling of Jung’s dark side. In my own use of it, it happens to be incorporating my inferior personality function which happens to be Extroverted sensing. And getting… Read more »
Silver Fox
Grid girls and similar are reviled because they are proxinate to actual men. They are top competitors. Entertainers aren’t.
Ironic.
We installed Karzai in Afghanistan, and his brother turned out to be a huge drug dealer.
Was it ironic? I think not.
https://youtu.be/m_GL_ccFLG0 “It’s a matter of facing the thing that you least want to face. There’s this old story in King Arthur where the knights go off to look for the Holy Grail… It’s basically a holy object like the Phoenix, basically a transformation. The Knights go off to find the most valuable thing. Where do you go to look for the most valuable thing when you don’t know where it is? Well each of the knights looks at the forest around the castle and they each enter it at the point where it looks darkest to him. And that’s a… Read more »
Re: KFG lecturing me about the AR-15. Your entire comment is what’s called a “distinction without a difference”. The AR-10 was designed as a “main battle rifle” to replace the Garand from WWII. The AR-15 was a scaled down version of the AR-10… I could write 5000 words on this KFG. You should stop trying to assert your superior knowledge when you don’t possess it…Makes me wonder what else you are BSing about? Or did you actually know Eugene Stoner – the actual gun designer – personally? Lots of posers here, boys. Here’s how to sniff them out, fyi. If… Read more »
for all those who don’t know… some background on what Blaximus and kfg are talking about wrt china… https://www.thoughtco.com/the-first-and-second-opium-wars-195276 although it glosses over US involvement… sooo https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/82011.htm the deep state’s been around a looong time…lol… it didn’t just start with the latest op in parkland…lol and just to weigh in on the whole illegal drug thing… the only drugs that are ‘illegal’ are the ones that are worthless/no value if not for being illegal… that ‘risk’ in bringing that commodity to market is what allows that profit margin… drugs that are legal – alcohol, tobacco, ‘pharma’, etc. – have barriers… Read more »
“You should stop trying to assert your superior knowledge when you don’t possess it”
*everyone* does that at one point or another, no exceptions; it only differs by degree
“Makes me wonder what else you are BSing about?”
perfectly valid consideration, but again, goes for everyone, not just ‘them’
“Lots of posers here, boys. Here’s how to sniff them out, fyi. If they are here every day, on every issue, they are fucking posers…No actually high status man has the time to be here that much. Think about it, how many hours a day do these blabbermouths sit here clacking away on their keyboards? 2-3 hours? 15-20 hours a week? That’s a part time job, lol. I could build a new shed over a summer with that effort.” Your entire comment is what’s called a “distinction without a difference” Question: What’s the difference in spending two hours watching television,… Read more »
@Scribbler:
Scale is just a distinction without a difference. Looking like a Model 70 as opposed to looking like an AR, huuuge difference, because ya know, military reasons.
Got it.
@ SJF 168 hours in a week ~50-55 for sleeping (7-8hrs/day) > 50 hours a week for work + 5-10 hours getting ready/commuting to/from work (and small business owners put in a lot more than this typically) ~5 hours a week for working out That leaves ~50 hours a week for family/kids, friends, fun, eating, reading, downtime, coffee, house/yard maintenance, news etc. So unless you just have a ton of passive income or inherited a small fortune and don’t work FT, if you are on a blog 15-20 hours+ a week – every single week – you are spending nearly… Read more »
Morning Good lecture over here
https://www.patreon.com/EdLatimore
@Silver Fox – Great take but there is a part I think that you are missing. They want to ruin everything that men enjoy. They want to eliminate male spaces entirely. They don’t care about Miley or Beyonce because they aren’t male spaces. But they care about everything at a football game or F1 event etc, cuz it’s a male space. Watch, next will be cheerleaders in the NFL. They don’t care about women dressing suggestively, they care about the social context in which it occurs. This of course gives away the Left’s game utterly – they care about changing… Read more »
“Your entire comment is what’s called a “distinction without a difference” ”
No, it is entirely insinuation and insult, devoid of actual argument.
There was no point in my addressing the question about knowing Stoner (who was easy enough for me to meet after he left the west coast for Ohio), because . . . it isn’t even wrong.
If it had been a group of old, white male Methodist ministers who attacked grid girls for being indecent, feminists would now be staging slut walks in their defense.
Rob
Those are very beta notions of time.
You might peek at Blackdragon’s thoughts
http://www.blackdragonblog.com/the-alpha-male-2-0/
Be scalable wrt time/income
Be mobile.
Don’t waste time.
Scrub Remember what I’ve told you about yourself before. Don’t make me keep repeating it in front of company. You. Know. Who. And. What. You. Are. When you constantly go on the attack, you only demonstrate. Anger and fear combined aren’t a good look for a man, but you, at your age, are still trying to figure out what a ” man ” is, and you continue to shit the bed. Relax cowboy. This is the Internet. A troll is still a troll. This isn’t real life per se, where We’d be face to face and you’d have much less… Read more »
As a small business owner I have joked that the great thing about being a small business owner is that I can choose (to some extent) which 100 hours a week I want to work.
On the other hand, I never have to look busy just to keep someone else happy that I’m “working.” That’s the shit that will wear you out and send you to an early grave for a handful of peanuts.
@Sentient Thanks for the laugh buddy. It’s not a “beta” version of time – It’s simply is what it is – work and sleep are going to eat up more than 65%+ of 98% of men’s time whether by choice (eg: even Warren Buffett still works because he loves it), by necessity or more typically both. This is true whether you work for yourself, work for a small a small business or work for a large corporation, single or LTR/married. Most men are happy with that arrangement and take great pride in the work and sleep is kind of required… Read more »
Oh, and screech, just so you have an answer ( not that it matters ), I spend as much time here as I like. I don’t show up just to be an insufferable asshole. I dopretty much what I like, and I like trm and the commenters. Okay, I have question for you now : why are you here? How many friends do you actually have? I’m talking ” friends ” no associates or neighbours or people you ” see ” often, but real friends? How much time do you spend with family? And spending time ” setting them straight… Read more »
Rob
You been to Jamaica mon? Play some dominos… Do some liming? Come home to some fried fish 🐟 and clean clothes?
@Sentient You do realize your “alpha” desires aren’t others, right? Sure, if you want to go live a minimalist lifestyle, it’s pretty easy to do it. And yes I’ve been to Jamaica over a dozen times. If your passion is expensive (travel, cars, flying planes, golfing, boating or whatever), a company you own (you may not care about what your family/friends think, but if you don’t your customers you typically won’t stay in business for long), a career you love putting the time in, kids, etc it’s not really that simple unless you have already built up wealth or inherited… Read more »
@Rob: https://www.amazon.com/Trekka-Round-World-John-Guzzwell-ebook/dp/B00IOAKYV8/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1519667362&sr=1-1&keywords=trekka+round+the+world He wasn’t making anywhere near the equivalent of $30k, so he built the yacht himself. That slowed him up a bit, so he actually cast off at 25. The yacht is now in a museum. Scribbler has 5 year plan to finally buy his boat. As a general rule the people who have 5 year plans to rack up a wad so that can go . . . never actually go. They just keep working thier “5 year plan” forever. Alphas just do it, even if they have to give up their “dream boat” and build a 20… Read more »
@kfg – and for every alpha that succeeded doing that, probably 1000 failed (or died).
http://people.com/human-interest/couple-sells-belongings-and-takes-off-on-sailboat-then-it-sinks-on-day-2-it-didnt-feel-real/ <- this is far more likely to happen than that one instance.
I'm not saying you shouldn't pursue you goals. Alphas will do that and even most betas will when it comes to hobbies and work. But acting like nearly all Americans can achieve their alpha goals without working 50+hrs a week for years and years is horseshit unless you inherited or want to live a minimal lifestyle.
Rob
“But acting like nearly all Americans can achieve their alpha goals without working 50+hrs a week for years and years is horseshit unless you inherited or want to live a minimal lifestyle.”
Says you.
Rob
Of your standard beta 2500 hour a year work… I clock leas than a third.
“work” will only get you so far. Scale is the key. And acting on opportunity.
Kfg Working for yourself is it’s own reward. Unfortunately, I have bosses. A bunch of them. But myntime is valuable to me so I always work smarter and not harder. Hard work is for young cats starting out. It’s an investment. I went to work yesterday ( Sunday ) to a nice empty building with zero phones ringing and no lines of people queuing up outside my office. I had 32 servers to upgrade and modify in various ways. Normally thatntask Woulda been left for this week, and with the disruption and distraction, it would’ve taken the bulk of the… Read more »
” . . . or died . . .”
Tens of thousands a year die just while driving to a job they hate. Playing it safe is dangerous.
A billions a year fail by simple lack of trying.
” . . . acting like nearly all Americans can achieve their alpha goals without working 50+hrs a week for years and years is horseshit . . .”
This too is not even wrong, but it is delta, and delta is the stolid backbone of civilization.
“Of your standard beta 2500 hour a year work… I clock leas than a third.
“work” will only get you so far. Scale is the key. And acting on opportunity.”
Again, this requires high IQ (narrows down to 1/6 of males > 115), great ideas, a bit of luck and good handle on finances. You just narrowed the pool down to way below 5% of men.
“You just narrowed the pool down to way below 5% of men.”
And?
“Tens of thousands a year die just while driving to a job they hate. Playing it safe is dangerous.”
Who said anything about playing it safe? This is a straw-man argument. Take the sail boat argument. Two alpha males with the same goal can come to different conclusions on the best and most efficient way to do that with a reasonable/likely chance of success.
“And?”
You really think telling people that you can achieve this if you are just alpha enough! when that only will work for far less than 1 / 20 guys is legit? lmao Have a nice day gentlemen.
“Who said anything about playing it safe?” You remarked that alphas off on adventures (let’s take George Mallory as an actual example) can die trying to achieve their alpha goals. I responded that deltas die of their lives of quit desperation. Just as suddenly and violently and for much the same reasons. i.e. “or die” isn’t an inherent argument against alpha adventure. “Two alpha males with the same goal can come to different conclusions on the best and most efficient way to do that . . .” All average men are average the same. All exceptional men are exceptional differently.… Read more »
e.g. https://www.amazon.com/Tinkerbelle-Robert-Manry/dp/B0007E3TRU
http://www.robertmanryproject.com
“You really think telling people that you can achieve this if you are just alpha enough! when that only will work for far less than 1 / 20 guys . . .” If it only works for 1/20 guys I can tell them it only works for 1/20 guys, plus how to up their odds of being one of those 1/20. After that it’s up to them what they want to do. If you want to sail around the world, you odds go up if you make the decision and go, NOW, within the year. And do you think that… Read more »
Grid girls – in case you were wondering.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5474205/kelly-brook-ban-salary-snowflakes-kids-formula-1-grid-girls/
@ Rob 20+ years ago I used to believe what you say. I was on the verge of bankruptcy and had anfew hundred dollars in the bank. But instead of just accepting that ” this is the way things are and I can’t do anything about it because look at everyone else failing too..”, I got angry, then I got busy. Kfg is pointing to something that’s key for men ” wanting things ” to understand. If you have to PAY for everything, you only serve to make other people financially secure. You’re just a cog. An emphasis when young,… Read more »
SJF
February 26, 2018 at 5:01 am
I’m talking about what’s in the soul/heart of a man…
Yes. The very thing I was expounding on. I was heavier on the manifestations rather than the internal justification. Bit it is a package deal.
Rob a friend ( we made good freinds while I built his mountain home) went from programer to yacht cleaner-repair entrepreneur (his passion is boats) to yacht repo service (taking him all over the world and connecting him to many bankers) to broker. The guy did what he wanted and loved it. Of course he would work 60hrs straight if it meant sailing in a storm. The man bought a 48 ftr and had it delivered up here to 8500ft above sea level to remodel, His cute little wife mother of two of his children told him either the boat… Read more »
scribblerg
February 26, 2018 at 8:19 am
A little ditty I did some years back in how to prepare an out group for slaughter. It is a quick read.
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2004/09/how-to-put-end-to-drug-users.html
I wrote this back when Newt was still a Prohibitionist. (About 20 years ago).
M Simon
If you gave Scrib a kilo of heroin….. 😂