Confidence and the Safety Net

Presently I’m putting the final touches on my third book, The Rational Male – Positive Masculinity. I’m now going through the final proofing stages of the print version while I await the reformatting for the digital version. As if that weren’t enough, this time of year tends to be my busiest with regard to promo gigs and brand developments stuff for my “real” job. So if my posts for the next couple of weeks seem a bit sporadic that’s why.

In the midst of this, however, I came across a comment by a long time lurker, Logic, that dovetailed so perfectly with the Afterword of the new book so well that I’ve decided to quote parts of it in the book:

I don’t comment a lot in this blog. However, I think it is important to make a comment that many will probably disagree with but is certainly true for me.

If you ask someone what is the greatest benefit he gained by reading Rollo’s articles, I am sure that you will get various responses:

“I finally got laid”

“I managed to successfully spin plates”

“I understood the true nature of women”

“I stopped giving a fuck and focused on myself (and the women came after)”

…etc

I am sure that all of these are true, not the least reason being that I have experienced these benefits myself.

However, if I may suggest an unpopular opinion, the greatest benefit that one gets from reading Rollo’s article is the fact that you are giving yourself a safety net. And the most important thing in my opinion is that you give yourself this safety net EVEN IF you don’t truly believe what Rollo writes.

If I may elaborate briefly, by safety net I mean LITERALLY safety net. The safety net’s purpose is not for you not to fall. It is for you not to DIE after you have fallen. I believe this is an important distinction (and forgive me Rollo if you have touched on this in one of your articles already). At least for me this is HUGE.

There is a nontrivial probability that you ARE going to fall. Unless you really swear to not EVER feel ANY emotional connection with a woman, then it is highly likely that at some point you WILL fall in love with a girl. Sure, I am positive that many guys will consider that this is something that they can control now that they are Red Pill aware, but you MAY at some point fall in love and you WILL lose your “cool” (btw if you don’t want to call it love call it infatuation; there will be a girl whose combination of laughter, looks, mannerisms and personality will produce this to you; if you want to deny it go ahead and you may be right. But as I said this is just MY humble opinion).

So where does the whole “safety net” come into play? Well, it comes into play when things go south. You WILL loose your cool and she might not notice but then again she also may notice. You will think that this girl is different. Again, it is easy to say that AWALT, but you are not dealing with a bunch of 1s and 0s. It is a human being, standing in front of you, with a personality, with a voice, with interests, opinions and the like. So your brain will tell you that THIS one is different.

And when it turns out that she is not, and she goes cold or dumps you, or cheats on you, then my friend you are going to be JUST FINE. Because you have a safety net. I am not saying that you won’t be sad (you will) but you won’t try to throw yourself under a bridge. The safety net is placed there for a simple reason. The reason is that, in the beginning stages of your infatuation, before you started thinking that she is “not like that”, a little voice inside of you said “You have read about this situation in the Rational Male brother. This may be an illusion. Be careful”.

Yes, you muted that voice for a while, but you never killed it. And when the inevitable happened this little voice came back and said ” Oh well. We knew it. Nothing wrong with giving it a shot. Now let’s move on. Hey check out Little Miss Perkytits at the counter.”

I know that many of you will laugh at this but, to me at least this is a big deal. I also think that the analogy of the safety net is pretty accurate. Even if all of Rollo’s writings hadn’t helped me AT ALL with getting laid, improving myself etc and THE ONLY benefit was gaining that safety net, I think that reading Rollo’s articles would have still bee very much worth it.

I thought this metaphor of a safety net was apt. The history that comes after a man has unplugged himself from his old Blue Pill mindset is in some ways more poignant that what a man does while he is still trapped in his old way of thinking. It’s easier to forgive yourself of the decisions you made in Blue Pill ignorance, but when you become Red Pill aware you own those decisions. As Logic points out, you can only read and absorb what I or any other Red Pill author has to relate to you – at some point you’re going to either consciously or not put this new awareness into practice.

As such you’re bound to make mistakes or false starts. No one makes it on their first jump. It takes time and practice along with an educated Red Pill awareness to internalize and transition into a new way of life. One reason I wrote A New Hope was to help newly unplugged men get past the anger and nihilism stages of unplugging, but also to warn them that the want to achieve the old Blue Pill idealistic hopes will be a strong impulse until they come into a new understanding of Red Pill, realistic, hopes for themselves. In that stage, and even after, there will always be mistakes and falls along the way.

The difference now is that you have a new confidence in the knowledge that Red Pill awareness provides for you. Whereas before you struggled with both a lack of understanding intersexual dynamics and the deliberate misdirection of you ever understanding it, now you have the Red Pill Lens. Now you have a perspective that in most ways insulates you from ever thinking your situation is hopeless. Red Pill awareness provides you with a map and a safety net that allows you to make accurate corrections to your Game, to your relationships and to your life no matter if you fall, no matter your temporary setback. Many a disingenuous critic would have men believe the Red Pill is all about anger or fomenting a belief that men are victims of an unfair system, but what they conveniently ignore is the overwhelmingly positive effect Red Pill awareness has in men’s lives. A great source of confidence comes from a man knowing he’s been emancipated from a Blue Pill paradigm that’s conditioned him to blind himself to its influence.

Reader, and long-time friend, Morpheus responded with this:

Exactly right. All of it!

My 2nd marriage recently ended (about 6 weeks ago my wife left me and informed me she was filing for divorce) and to be honest I’ve sort of surprised myself just how emotionally unaffected I’ve been compared to my first marriage ending (which was before Red Pill, Rollo, and Rational Male). I’ve actually had multiple people comment incredulously at just how well I am doing. I’ve recommitted to a much more intense and frequent workout regimen, and am down about 20 pounds in those 6 weeks.

I credit my Red Pill perspective for enabling me to stay relatively stoic about it all, and refocus on something positive. I think it helps that I realize I haven’t lost my “Soulmate” because that is bullshit to begin with, and that women are fungible at least partly. Don’t get me wrong, I really do feel like I lost by best friend and have times of sadness. It certainly helps to realize that “Little Miss Perktits/Tight Ass/Tighter Wetter Pussy” is out there, and I’ll be fucking her soon enough.

I’d add that my Red Pill perspective also clues me in to what awaits my soon to be ex-wife who is 43 going on 53 in terms of her menopausal stage and very overweight (we started dating when she was 32 with the body of a fitness model). Schadenfreude is probably the wrong term since I don’t actively wish her a horrible experience in the SMP, but I do know she is in for a very rude awakening once she tests the dating waters.

But yeah, you are absolutely right. The fact of the matter is many “Red Pill” guys are going to form strong emotional bonds with women, and it will hurt when those bonds are severed unless you are a psychopath who doesn’t feel emotions like love, affection, etc. But the most powerful thing about the Red Pill perspective is knowing you will be JUST FINE and that truly the world is filled with other female options.

Anyone who’s read my post What’s Your Problem? probably has a good idea of what motivated me to write what I do going on 16 years now, but when I read stories like this and I get emails or Tweets to let me know how what I’ve made men aware of has somehow changed or saved a man’s life it’s always a humbling experience. As I’ve stated in both my books, I’m not in the business of making better men, I’m in the business of helping men become better men themselves. No formulas, no Top Ten Ways to,… lists, just actionable intelligence; but that information still requires a man come to applying it to his own life in a way which works for him.

Even if all Logic gets from my work is the sense of confidence that he has the right intel about how he can better direct his life despite any momentary downside I consider that a success of my intent as a Red Pill writer. When you look at the appalling statistics of male suicide and you understand the correlation of it with the rise of a feminine-primary social order that teaches men to loathe their own gender and accept their superfluousness, knowing that the Red Pill can provide some insulation against it is encouraging. My first reflex when I read a story like that of Morpheus is to presume the man is a suicide risk; his response to his situation is an example of how Red Pill awareness is not just an exercise in warning and preparing men of what to expect, but also a safety net in case a man must deal with the worst.

From the 16 Commandments of Poon

VII. Always keep two in the kitty

Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.

As I get closer to completing whats become a herculean task of finishing this book (it’s now at 340 pages!) I’m taking some time to reflect on what I’ve done not just with this new book, but what I’ve built in the Manosphere for over 15 years now. I may be one of the 3 ‘R’s of the ‘sphere, some might say I’m the godfather of the Red Pill and my work is required reading for the Red Pill Reddit sub, but I’ll never be comfortable with all that so long as there are guys who are still despondent in their Blue Pill paradigm. The Red Pill is ‘open source’ and its strength lies in its decentralized way of openly debating and testing the strength of ideas. I’m humbled that many men have had their lives changed by what I write, but it’s really a testament to their own resolve – all I do is connect dots, remember?

If it’s not too much to ask, for this week’s comment thread I’d like to get some feedback on how the Red Pill has changed your life. Maybe it’s been my work, maybe it’s due to others in the ‘sphere, but as I get closer to finishing book three I wanted to get men’s Red Pill testimonies, so to speak, to help with the summation of the book.

Thanks.

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SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Hey Rugby, @12:18 PM Thanks man. Nice cite from SFC Ton’s ‘rough draft’ blog article on “Alpha enough or everyday Alpha/ how brotherhood makes you alpha”. I could have been the one that commented and was referenced: “The other day reading comments over at Rollo’s someone mentioned how all men can’t be apex Alphas. Legit point and completely pointless.” I don’t disagree with his premise that he proposes, which I believe to be: go out and do tribal masculine male things with a dedicated tribe of men who have a mission/purpose/pursuit over and above your possible Beta tendencies to lean… Read more »

GuyFromScandinavia
GuyFromScandinavia
8 years ago

My road to the red pill started when I worked in prison as a guard. Every now and then prisoners would get visited by visitors and I realized that many of these losers* had children and girlfriends that visited them. When i spoke with older colleagues they could often recount ALOT of incidents where female prison guards had fallen in love with criminal losers or highly violent individuals. This was not extremely common, but not uncommon. *Losers= Addicts, Unemployed, Criminals, Women beaters. One of my colleagues (woman) said that most of the inmates may be losers, but atleast they were… Read more »

GuyFromScandinavia
GuyFromScandinavia
8 years ago

clarification: ” but for some of us (like me) when we initially found TRP it was mainly about a struggle to try and make sense of a world not consistent with our beliefs.”

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Here’s something Red Pill:

Just because society or whatever designates someone as ” a loser “, in the bigger picture, it means nothing at all, especially when it comes to women seeking masculinity.

There are ” beliefs “, and then there is ” Real Life/Facts on the Ground “. When the 2 don’t match up, drop the belief quickly as it serves no purpose. See: Fairy Tale.

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Anything you value more then her will lend you alpha cred. That’s pretty much the point. That and you don’t have to be an apex anything to carve a decent life out of this shit storm called life

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
8 years ago

In the upmarket bar we went to was a MMA fighter with a stupid blonde. He was a thug – and nasty. You only had to look at him. ALL the women I was with literally wet themselves and moved table to be next to him. Crazy how reliable this stuff is when you look for it. Just saw this on TV, made me think of TRM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLY164a3BE Go right to 21:30 for a three minute tutorial. Word goes out an Alpha Male is in town, two females of another species rush out to see him and go all aflutter.… Read more »

SHAKA LEONIDAS
SHAKA LEONIDAS
8 years ago

First of all Thank you Rollo! You saved my life. My mom left me with my grandparents as a small kid to start a life with my stepdad. She came back and got me for a little while but my step dad was never keen on having a step-kid so she would send me back. That cycle happened twice(12 and 16). I knew my dad my entire life although he was married to another woman before i Ias even born. While not a great dad, he was a patient one. My up bringing was very purple pill lower middle class… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
8 years ago
Reply to  SHAKA LEONIDAS

Thanks for this Shaka

cheupez
8 years ago

I think maybe those girls were lucky because all the bull could smell on them was the estrogen. If that had been some pumped up dude or some old hag? That car would have been toast.

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
8 years ago

Down Under it doesn’t always go the way of the woman in the courts. Maybe the worm is starting to turn, gentlemen…

abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/amber-harrison-ordered-to-pay-legal-costs-for-seven/8716104

IAS
IAS
8 years ago

@Lost Patrol: hilarious. Those women were taking a significant risk I think (as cheupez alludes to).

Reminded me of those clips that someone posted (was it YaReally? Possibly), several instances of women giddy and giggling when big dogs started humping them… Not on the legs and stuff, actually practically mounting those women and stuff.

anon
anon
8 years ago

“Word goes out an Alpha Male is in town, two females of another species rush out to see him and go all aflutter.”

And a gay guy around 46:05!

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Shaka

Well done. Powerful post.

Congrats on finding a way back.

SFC Ton
8 years ago

I had a Great Dane stud with a cock like a 3 litter coke bottle. He wasn’t shy about sticking his nose in ladies crotches and if he liked the smell he would drop a boner. Ladies always laughed about that and all I could think was wash your smelly jizz box. One thing betas don’t get is how aggressive women will get for alpha cock. As I have said before, when I was fighting girls would offer to fuck me post fight all the time, including when my now ex wife and kids where by my side. Women want… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
8 years ago

@palmasailor

Hahha. Good shit!

theasdgamer
8 years ago

I saw this and couldn’t help smiling…

“quote ‘leaks’ which really are not leaks” are instead “mostly reporters trying very hard to get truthful information and put some context to this story.”

hah, a very creative way to put a favorable spin on lying and inventing false news (“put some context to this story”)

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/carl-bernstein-cold-civil-war-gripping-us-as-media-embrace-different-truths/article/2628813

theasdgamer
8 years ago

More political news… The significant downturn in the number of illegal border crossers between the U.S. and Mexico is “nothing short of miraculous,” National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd said on C-SPAN Monday. “As far as the Trump administration’s efforts on immigration, this is something they campaigned heavily on,” he said. “At six months, where we are on meeting those promises, we are seeing nothing short of miraculous. If you look at the rhetoric that President Trump has given, it has caused a number of illegal border crossings to go down. We have never seen such a drop that… Read more »

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Not Born This Morning
Not Born This Morning
8 years ago

@Blaximus July 12, 2017 at 6:03 pm My ” drug ” example. THAT was awesome!!! Thanks for sharing that. I hope a lot of men take example and do what you did for your daughters. There is no better teacher than reality, real life. All you had to do was drive around and point out the truth. You are one hell of a man because most males don’t have the “balls” to do even that. Most men are too sissyfied to take the kind of initiative you did and would rather let the fucking television, asstard movies and “being nice”… Read more »

Anon01
Anon01
8 years ago

@Rollo

Define alpha: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/13/scientists-discover-brains-neural-switch-for-becoming-an-alpha-male

“We stimulate this brain region(dorsal medial prefrontal cortex, dmPFC) and we can make lower ranked mice move up the social ladder.”

Not Born This Morning
Not Born This Morning
8 years ago

Rollo,

Do you know when Positive Masculinity will be available in digital (Kindle) format?

Rollo Tomassi
8 years ago

@NBTM, both editions will launch together

Not Born This Morning
Not Born This Morning
8 years ago

This is a worthy read.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTOD4Fl9ekDI4JkKwLsKwQgL0dKfP2dHmxQ-x_I3CyTs6H0trXM

Warning, don’t be fooled by thinking this book is justification for white knightism. It is most certainly not and that would be a projected delusion only for those who cannot see the truth due to their own white knight impulses. This book discusses an ancient symbolic theme existing long before any of us, and passed down for thousands of generations.

theasdgamer
8 years ago

“THAT was awesome!!!”

Indeed.

SHAKA LEONIDAS
SHAKA LEONIDAS
8 years ago

@Sentinent

Thanks. Glad to be back!

SFC Ton
8 years ago

I reckoned the biological root of domineering behaviour came from the ballsack and not the brain

That's Mr. Timex To You
That's Mr. Timex To You
8 years ago

The Rational male was a Godsend for me. It even inspired me to write a comedy/dark humor story. I was fresh out of a horrible “relationship” and the ego investment was at an all time high to the point where it just made me flat out stupid and blind. As it progressed and had an ugly end I was at work and I read the classics “Hats Off To The Bull” and The Medium Is The Message”. Those two articles among others were like a cold glass of 151 Bacardi with no chaser with your homies looking at you like… Read more »

Anon01
Anon01
8 years ago

@SFC Ton
“I reckoned the biological root of domineering behaviour came from the ballsack and not the brain”

I don’t think it’s one or the other. It’s a feedback loop.

Thomas
8 years ago

I discovered Rollo’s blog, the Rational Male, in the last of a ten year long dying relationship, 2011/12. I was totally puzzled of the whys and hows that experience went south. Thanks to the RM I finally found out that the first four years I unwittingly passed enough shit test due to mere assholery, impulsiveness and alcoholism, but, as soon as she “fixed” me (betatization), everything went relentlessly worst and worst; I just couldn’t believe that after finally giving up to her pretences, instead of appreciating it, she just lost interest, after all the investment I made in that relationship,… Read more »

Not Born This Morning
Not Born This Morning
8 years ago

Donald Hoffman is so completely full of shit he is brimming over, no spewing, it and polluting the world with the most extreme and insane lies yet. He is on the “cutting edge” of BoBo diarrhea of the mindlessness of liberal extremes. It is HIS noodle that is cooked. He has cooked himself right out of reality. He is far beyond the line crossed from “enlightenment” into delusional insanity. He has stuck his head so far up his ass he can see the back of his teeth. Academia is filled with this ilk as it cannot survive anywhere else.

Höllenhund
8 years ago

@Bromeo Two girls trying to explain hypergamy(kind of cute): The obvious problem here is that actions speak louder than words, and these two minor right-wing Youtube celebrity conserva-babes aren’t practising what they’re preaching. Neither of them are married or even engaged, to the best of our knowledge, and neither are mothers. In fact, neither of them are even on a clear path towards marriage. They aren’t displaying any ability or willingness to raise children, be homemakers, sew, knit etc. even though they claim to be anti-feminists. The dark-haired one was recently boned by a minor alt-light celebrity, who happens to… Read more »

Andy
Andy
8 years ago

One more splurge of spiritual content before I leave everyone to their Alphaness. This guy has a ton of vids about spirituality/self-actualization. He also has a vid on making chicks squirt. I’m not of huge fan of him, but the content is pretty good. https://youtu.be/q56Qkejx_FM The video above is about “bashing” PUAs. He’s kind of judgy and ignores the fact that there are a ton of PUAs that have realized the spiritual inevitability of Pick-Up. He also completely ignores the fact that Pick-Up played a part in HIS OWN spiritual realizations… Anyway… I’m pretty sure that this is the guy,… Read more »

Andy
Andy
8 years ago

One more splurge of spiritual content before I leave everyone to their Alphaness. This guy has a ton of vids about spirituality/self-actualization. He also has a vid on making chicks squirt. I’m not of huge fan of him, but the content is pretty good. https://youtu.be/q56Qkejx_FM The video above is about “bashing” PUAs. He’s kind of judgy and ignores the fact that there are a ton of PUAs that have realized the spiritual inevitability of Pick-Up. He also completely ignores the fact that Pick-Up played a part in HIS OWN spiritual realizations… Anyway… I’m pretty sure that this is the guy,… Read more »

Anon01
Anon01
8 years ago

Interesting; the only society in this sample where females had greater variance in reproductive success than males is Finland, 1745-1900. pic.twitter.com/CmkawCWJxa— Will (@Evolving_Moloch) 17 Ιουλίου 2017

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Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Lol @ ” no self ” and ” non violence “.

Eastern religions and philosophies are among the oldest known. How’d you manage to miss that Andy?

theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Neo

I’m just not a huge fan of the riddles and abstract stories… Tell it to me straight.

Parables are intended to help you unwire from the Matrix. Anytime you have a large ego investment, it’s difficult to unwire yourself. Parables attempt to bypass the ego investment.

A Course in Miracles

is very New Agey and hardly Christian.

Andy
Andy
8 years ago

Blaximus,

? It’s all the same thing dude. I just resonate with the western stuff more. Also, I noticed that a bunch of people were talking about philosophy. Philosophy kind of implies that what I’m talking about is just a bunch of ideas that you live by. This stuff isn’t about certain ideas. It’s about a lack of any ideas.

Empty your cup and dive into this shit if you want to understand it.

cheupez
8 years ago

Goddamn anti pua rant? “Be yourself!?” That rant is not just against pua. It is a rant against any man who wants to be physically fit, confident and 6, 7 or 8 inches inside pussy. This guy is the perfect FI instrument. Spiritual green huh? Hippie? Hahahaaaa… Man! There sure is a lot of shit floating around on the net. Some guy’s teenage son is going to swallow that fucking shit and hippie his ass to oblivion or commit suicide after he wakes up to find the world moved on without him. I wish someone could point that stupid mangohead… Read more »

theasdgamer
8 years ago

Empty your cup and dive into this shit if you want to understand it.

“Diving into shit” describes it perfectly. Glad I climbed back out.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“… Tell it to me straight.”

An orange tastes just like an orange.

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

” This stuff isn’t about certain ideas. It’s about a lack of any ideas. ”

You do read what you’re writing, right?

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Re: The bald headed fuck in the video above. I stopped watching him after he said ” I know you better than you know yourself..”. Gtfoh with that dumb shit. People like him prey on the very confused. A confused person scrambling and scratching for answers outside of himself is liable to accept anything , but can’t always tell when someone is playing them in a manner. Nothing that these fuckwads say is provable. They say that’s the whole point – everything is nothing and nothing is everything and you are nothing and nothing is you and the end goal… Read more »

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Believing in non violence makes you the dumbest mother fucker on the block. The window licking retard wearing a bike helmet to bed and counting to potato is fucking smarter then that

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

” Empty your cup and dive into this shit if you want to understand it. ”

Been there, done that.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJMwBwFj5nQ&w=854&h=480%5D

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
8 years ago

everything is nothing and nothing is everything and you are nothing and nothing is you and the end goal is to be nothing and that goal means everything

You get it here for free, while some people are flying half way around the world and climbing up to a mountaintop abode for this information.

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

@ Ton

” Believing in non violence makes you the dumbest mother fucker on the block.”

Truth.

During my lifetime I’ve watched the call for all men to disarm and be peaceful in the face of violence/bullshit. I’ve always laughed at that notion and bought more ammo.

People believing in non violence only serves to produce even more violence.

Because the easy targets increase.

There is an agenda behind convincing people to be more compliant and unarmed. There is nothing in life worse than needing a weapon or the ability to do violence, and not having either.

anon
anon
8 years ago

“An orange tastes just like an orange.”

Is that a veiled metaphor for acid?
Cause I think he’s on acid.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

@anon:

Ya gotta watch out for that citric. It’ll mess ya up.

theasdgamer
8 years ago

Bruce Lee loved western ideas…he came to study western philosophy…his martial arts ideas are about speed and straight lines, just like fencing. Bruce Lee is hardly an oriental thinker.

rugby11
rugby11
8 years ago

Anyone read this?
http://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006
Blaximus
“During my lifetime I’ve watched the call for all men to disarm and be peaceful in the face of violence/bullshit. I’ve always laughed at that notion and bought more ammo.”
https://www.amazon.com/This-Nonviolent-Stuffll-Get-Killed/dp/082236123X
Violence and peace…

Surrender and absolute vulnerability…

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

@ asd

Growing up a fan of Bruce, and having read his book and everything about him, I’d strongly disagree.

He’s very, very close to a Taoist in most ways.

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He studied many different fighting styles and adapted what he found useful, and discarded what was not.

rugby11
rugby11
8 years ago

“In the world I see – you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You’ll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You’ll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you’ll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway. Feel better, champ.”
https://youtu.be/HZMUGlFI_tg

https://youtu.be/bo41sGjW-_w

https://youtu.be/r5J73z1T4xk

anon
anon
8 years ago

“People believing in non violence only serves to produce even more violence. Because the easy targets increase.” No way! Look at Britain. See how the violence ended when they banned guns. Then knives. Now they’re in the process of banning acid (lots of acid attacks these days…don’t know why I keep bringing up acids of various kinds. Probably Andy). Soon they’ll be back to Great Stink days (since the proposed ban doesn’t just cover acids but all caustic substances that could be thrown onto a person’s face with adverse consequences, which would be chemicals used to clean and make life… Read more »

SFC Ton
8 years ago

I have a rather low opinion of Lee. Not as a man but he has close to no ring time and frankly I beat the dog shit out of all the JKD guys who got in the ring with me. Criminally bad.

Man those were the glory days of MMA, back when fucksticks would get in the ring with their black belt in who flung dung to get beat down by real fighters. Didn’t take long for the sport to shit can all that fairy ass Asian dancing stuff and focus in thai kickboxing, boxing and various ground games

Colinizor
Colinizor
8 years ago
Reply to  SFC Ton

I think ole mate Bruce understood and applied a psuedo form of the “feminine mystique” principal to his own life.
Also had similar experience with fluffy fighting styles back in my amutuer muay thai days in my late teens and 20’s along with many of my friends at the time, beating up on these poor deluded (not for long) souls.
Ps. I used to enjoy picking apart the bikers during sparring sessions, who where much heavier and older than me at the time who where also full of froth and bubble for the most part.

rugby11
rugby11
8 years ago

SFC Ton
https://youtu.be/EgVvvX2T418
Lomachenko Vasiliy
Hes my age but fights sparing would be interesting
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“Man those were the glory days of MMA, back when fucksticks would get in the ring with their black belt in who flung dung to get beat down by real fighters. Didn’t take long for the sport to shit can all that fairy ass Asian dancing stuff and focus in thai kickboxing, boxing and various ground games”

theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Blax

Growing up a fan of Bruce, and having read his book and everything about him, I’d strongly disagree.

Maybe you should watch a documentary about his life. No question that he was a Taoist, but I wasn’t talking about his religious beliefs.

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Tao is philosophical or religious. I was speaking of the philosophy. Taoism (/ˈdaʊɪzəm/ or /ˈtaʊɪzəm/), also known as Daoism, is a religious or philosophical tradition of Chinese origin which emphasizes living in harmony with the Tao (道, literally “Way”, also romanized as Dao). The Tao is a fundamental idea in most Chinese philosophical schools; in Taoism, however, it denotes the principle that is both the source, pattern and substance of everything that exists.[1][2] Taoism differs from Confucianism by not emphasizing rigid rituals and social order.[1] Taoist ethics vary depending on the particular school, but in general tend to emphasize wu… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

” Effortless Action “.

That’s some good shit right there.

Lol.

theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Blax

“Effortless action” = “Just be yourself” = “unconscious competence”

cheupez
8 years ago

Really good shit I tell ya.😆

stuffinbox
stuffinbox
8 years ago

Effortless action is achieved by aligning oneself with ,I ching and feng shui.

These are simple principles like southern exposure for winter heat in the northern hemisphere.proximity and the changes of the cycles and seasons,planning action to align with these is a lost art that gets run under by a right now lifestyle.

Keeping in mind the age of 100 philosophers was a civilised time and these guys didn’t expend that much effort anyway,much like today.

EhIntellect
8 years ago

“Ex brother in law was a navy pilot. From his example, anecdotally, average folks tend to give ” pilots ” just a little too much credit. They’re guys that were trained to fly jets at the end of the day.”

What’s the difference between a Navy jet engine and a Navy jet pilot?

At the end of the day the engine stops whining.

stuffinbox
stuffinbox
8 years ago

Looks pretty straight forward,in peacfull times on a calm sea.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5zgJFYFIRg&w=560&h=315%5D

SHAKA LEONIDAS
SHAKA LEONIDAS
8 years ago

@Rollo

No problem.

@Blax

“Effortless action” = “Just be yourself” = “unconscious competence

Thats some zen shit right there

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
8 years ago

Man those were the glory days of MMA, back when fucksticks would get in the ring with their black belt in who flung dung to get beat down by real fighters.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

@Blax@theasdgamer “Effortless action” = “Just be yourself” = “unconscious competence That’s some zen shit right there… http://reset.me/story/7-profound-lessons-from-the-books-of-alan-watts/ The “myself” which I am beginning to recognize, which I had forgotten but actually know better than anything else, goes far back beyond my childhood, beyond the time when adults confused me and tried to tell me that I was someone else; when, because they were bigger and stronger, they could terrify me with their imaginary fears and bewilder and outface me in the complicated game that I had not yet learned. Ordinary thinking conceals polarity and relativity because it employs terms, the… Read more »

Daniel Corwin
Daniel Corwin
8 years ago

I just read “The Rational Male” and could not put it down. I’m newly divorced from a 26 year marriage and believed most of the blue pill ideas until now. Had I been a red pill man it might have saved my marriage. The red pill is hard the swallow, but I know it’s truth. I always like the phase “Always embrace the true” no matter how hard it is the accept. Thank you Rollo for all that you do and for help us AFC’s.

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Stick with Rollo and the boys and you won’t be an AFC for much longer

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
8 years ago

@ rugby11 Thanks for posting the link to Peterson’s Biblical Series VII: Walking with God: Noah and the Flood. Towards the end of the lecture, he describes the actions that a man can take to keep chaos at bay, like building ten thousand year dikes in the Netherlands. He said in spite of your efforts your world may end, but that is OK. Maybe you get a new world. Where the men who do not prepare are taken to Hell (psychologically) and may never escape. Listening to many of Peterson’s lectures, he is not red pill—more of a blue pill… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

If-I-Fell

That’s great stuff on the job situation.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
8 years ago

Listening to many of Peterson’s lectures, he is not red pill—more of a blue pill moralist, Yes and no. He is not red pill in any comprehensive sense, that’s very true. He’s ultimately a moralist, and would disagree with things like the platinum rule and so on, so he isn’t really red pill in any meaningful way when you look at the entire message and approach. He isn’t really blue pill, though, either. His views on men and women are very evo-psych and are generally really disliked by the blue pill world on the internet. He isn’t a subscriber to… Read more »

Höllenhund
8 years ago

Jordan Peterson publicly apologized to MGTOW for baselessly insulting them, which is not something a blue-pilled man, or many self-proclaimed red-pilled men for that matter, would ever do.

stuffinbox
stuffinbox
8 years ago

JP sounds blue pill almost egalitarian when discussing his relationship with his wife,it seems to cause him much pain and is something where trp helps come to grips with the reality of the situ.

The guy is intelligent enough to maintain a facade of equality to keep from getting stoned to death in public so who can say.

Not Born This Morning
Not Born This Morning
8 years ago

Aside from the fact that every single female is a literal walking lie, cloaked in the urban camouflage of Este Lauder, Maybelline, blow up lips, blow up tits, ass vacuums, yoga blubber shapers and a plethora of other theatrical costume, the feminist lie is so thoroughly and insidiously spun and woven into our society that it is impossible to escape. It is everywhere now. Even professional bicycle racing is not immune to this disease! this cancer! this pestilence! It even infects world class professional cycling!! http://www.bicycling.com/racing/2015-tour-de-france/why-isn-t-there-women-s-tour-de-france Really?! As if women have been defiled and trespassed against because the world didn’t… Read more »

Senior Beta
Senior Beta
8 years ago

Navy pilots “whiners”? wtf? Old guy. Viet Nam vet. Served on a carrier. 30 miles due east of Haiphong. A-6, A-7 and F-4 pilots risked getting their balls shot off on every mission. And never heard one “whine.” Enough rant. Great post Rollo.

anon
anon
8 years ago

Perhaps he meant wining.
(they do like adult beverages)

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 years ago

Senior Beta, it’s a different century now. An F/A 18 pilot I was chatting with in San Diego a few years back was quite cynical about the process to get into an F-35; “pure politics and butt kissing” sums up his description. Feminization of the Navy has been going on for a while now, with predictable results. Remembe Kara Hultgren’s last F-14 landing?

Of course, given the mess that the F-35 is turning out to be, maybe he was better off driving his 1970’s-designed aircraft. That’s a different topic, though.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 years ago

NBTM, with regard to the Tour, you know what that is, it’s feminist territory-marking. I for one would welcome an all-female Tour de France with one condition: anyone who calls themself a “woman” gets to race, no questions asked. When men wearing lipstick and falsies win every stage from time trial to climb to long distance and the girls then complain, we can all smirk and demand they abase themselves for being transphobic. An all female Tour would provide so many opportunities for black knighting… Perhaps kfg will have some thoughts to spare regarding your experience with Shamu and her… Read more »

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
8 years ago

I saved a ton of money on ‘Tard Insurance by switching to Red Pill.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

@NBTM: “. . . women have been defiled and trespassed against because the world didn’t create a female Tour De France coinciding with the “male version” from its inception…” Janet Guthrie and Shirley Muldowney didn’t demand “Powder Puff” races. There has actually been a parallel women’s race, but nobody gave a shit so it didn’t prove a viable event. Ergo, what the women are demanding is actually a pussy privilege event, not a real professional event where they actually earn their way. It boils down to a demand to just throw money at them (with a side order of “Pay… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Damn, I’m trying to lay low and keep my trap shut. Lol.

@ kfg

I got a big hug from Cha Cha when I was about 11 or 12, at Englishtown Raceway Park.

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http://cdn.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/05/2016-05-24_18-25-12.jpg

She was one hell of a driver, and she could drive the wheels off of anything. I never watched the movie about her though.

Different times man…..

Anon01
Anon01
8 years ago

@NBTM
“I cancelled my subscription to Bicycling a few years ago when it became a frivolous “rag” after they decided to partially tweak their marketing to specifically women instead of just cyclists in general, as they had for years.”

Men’s health used to post a babe on insta for #wcw. Now this hashtag is #WOMENCRUSHINGITWEDNESDAY(eg, https://www.instagram.com/p/BWvM8FoDoxW/?taken-by=menshealthmag&hl=el). There is also, a women’s health publication, so these posts aren’t for motivating chicks or whatever, but for men who’ve forgoten to appreciate women this week lol

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“I never watched the movie about her though.”

It doesn’t suck as a movie, but it isn’t a very good biography. It ended up more as a “based on a true story” type deal, as these things typically do.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

@ rugby11 Thanks for posting the link to Peterson’s Biblical Series VII: Walking with God: Noah and the Flood. Towards the end of the lecture, he describes the actions that a man can take to keep chaos at bay, like building ten thousand year dikes in the Netherlands. Me too. @Rugby that cite was fucking awesome. I listened to it via bluetooth while at the gym and then driving out to my farm today. Some of this red pill wisdom (yes Peterson operates blue pill IRL, but is plugged into ancient wisdom. Easily adapted to Red Pill Praxeology). At the… Read more »

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
8 years ago

ON THE VALUE OF THE WOMAN IN YOUR LIFE SJF calls this VAF or value after fucking. My wife scores ridiculously high on this. So, I am warily considering a job offer. I have decided not to take the job, let the clock run down and reject the offer on the final day. The job fails on many counts, but I am tortured by the specter of being wrong and passing up an opportunity to monetize my skills. I know the first name of the guy who had the job prior—I’ll call him Dave. In my second interview, I throw… Read more »

anon
anon
8 years ago

“An F/A 18 pilot I was chatting with in San Diego a few years back was quite cynical about the process to get into an F-35; “pure politics and butt kissing” sums up his description.”

I’m dubious of that claim. The JSF hasn’t been around very long, so “a few years back” they were all initial cadre pilots. They don’t select initial cadre based on ‘pure politics and butt kissing”. No, not even in the current climate. They can’t afford to.

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
8 years ago

That’s been a great employment story even though you didn’t get the job (which ends up sounding like a good thing). Nice use of all available resources in concert with prior experience to keep the upper hand, and more proof that TRM principles of frame, confidence, self-improvement, action bias, etc. have broad life application beyond “just girls”.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

@SJF: ” Men operate on fact and logic and abstract thoughts. To operate otherwise is purely emotion.” Andy is talking about a third state not on that spectrum. There is a classic koan, “Does a dog have Buddha nature?” If you answer either yes or no you fall into one error or another. A classic teaching analogy, that I have inverted above, is that you can’t describe to someone what an orange tastes like. The taste of an orange is an experience. The only way you can inform someone what the taste of an orange is is to feed them… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Andy struggled with the life he’d chosen to create because he went forward in ignorance without understanding. I still remember his comments over the years. Setting and achieving goals in life baffled the fuck out of him because he had no idea why he was doing what he was doing, so he was left cold and confused and anxious. Men should not ever be compliant robots. So now he seeks relief in throwing it all away, mentally, as having no meaning at all. Nothing has meaning. We are nothing but ego. We are all stunted. So he is swinging from… Read more »

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
8 years ago

@If-I-Fell — I agree on Peterson mostly. One other note — he seems to have a pretty textbook case of one-itis. He married a woman whom he liked as a child, lived on the same street in a small town in Alberta growing up. But he married her years later when he met her again in Montreal. Seems like he was pretty fixated on one woman, really, from the time he was young, so the opposite of red pill approaches. As a professor, of course, he has access to a lot of very high quality pussy. I am guessing that… Read more »

cheupez
8 years ago

I hope I dont get killed for saying this. 😊 Looking at most of Jordan Peterson videos I can not say he is Redpill. At all. And it does not surprise me. Redpill is truth. Nature without goggles. The smarter you are the further removed from nature you are likely to be. I think the evolution of sexual dynamics occured before the addition of intellect in the human animal. Sexual dynamics existed and used to run themselves even when we had no smarts. Homo sapiens still an animal. The circuitry/hardware and software for base sexual experience still existing beneath all… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

If I Fell

Great great stuff… Abundance mindset. You are the prize… Platinum Rule stuff…

In the old “tell me what you want” dance… A good stratagem is… “well I know what I’m worth… But I only have one opportunity to find out what you think I’m worth… So let me know.”

and then hold tight…

Good luck.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

@Blaximus: “It is false enlightenment that makes one feel that everyone else is wrong and lost and without spirituality, but it’s pretty common for people to feel that way initially.” Exactly. Worse than that, however, is that he has become a “Seeker.” Oddly enough McKenna offers warnings about that in his first book. Andy has read the text, but has not taken its meaning. While some paths are more direct and easier to travel than others there is no One True Path. The Seeker tries to travel all of them (including many false paths) – half way. Squish, like grape.… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

kfg – don’t take this as a negative, just my feedback your comment above [July 20, 2017 at 5:51 am] reminded of that orange blurb you had a while back… I only remembered it because it was odd but also, perhaps more importantly, I had no idea what you meant by it and since it was referencing something so obliquely that I couldn’t even look it up to find out but with that last comment, in which the concept is spelled out, the point you were trying to get across finally makes it (to me, at least) now I’m fully… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

“well I know what I’m worth… But I only have one opportunity to find out what you think I’m worth… So let me know.”

best response I’ve ever heard to the “who gives a number first dilemma”

theasdgamer
8 years ago

Facts do exist.

I disagree. And to prove that point, Andy will give me all his money.

theasdgamer
8 years ago

Abstract things exist, even if they can’t be sensed. Spirits, wind, and breath exist, but can’t be touched or seen (obviously, they can be felt). A bank balance is abstract, but if Andy doesn’t think that he in fact has money in the bank, then he won’t object to giving me his money.

SJB
SJB
8 years ago

I’d suggest Peterson is not not-red-pill but something else altogether. That is, he makes it clear in Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief the questions he pursues are: – What is? – What should be? – How should we therefore act? His answers lead into neurobiology and thence to mythic-as-psyche-map (so to speak). In short: those same questions are what start men on an RP journey re: “what is this intersexual relationship? What should it be? How should I therefore act?” Put another way: the dots Peterson connects are both the substrate upon which intersexual relationships rest as well… Read more »

Tan
Tan
8 years ago

Rollo don’t reveal your identity in the t21c. It is already too difficult a disillusionment coming court of female reality and coming into your reality. I don’t want the feminine to circle you publicly. Use a face mask if you are doing it.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Doc Z

On the other side of the table, when I’ve hired execs a stratagem has been “What are you making now… And before you answer I want you to know if we do make you an offer I am also going to ask for a pay stub or tax return as proof… Now go ahead…”

Seperates the dreamers from the the rest quick.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

” . . . sometimes the breadcrumbs you leave are spaced too far apart . . .”

I am not unaware of this issue. Awareness of an issue, say the disjoint between Classical and Quantum physics, does not necessarily imply a solution to it.

And sometimes, as in telling Andy that an orange tastes just like an orange, I am addressing a specific point to a specific person who I have reason to believe has the requisite background knowledge.

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