Can’t Buy Me Alpha

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I can’t imagine most of the manosphere, to say nothing about MRAs, haven’t read about the latest feminist triumphalism in a recent Pew study that’s determined that 23% of women now out-earn men. The ironic inconsistencies are an easy mark for most red pill men, but I imagine they’re particularly galling for MRAs:

Moms now earn more than dads in almost a quarter of all U.S. families, the highest level in history. It’s a huge leap from 50 years ago when only a handful of moms were bringing home the bacon, according to a study released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center.

Overall, women – including those who are unmarried – are now the leading or solo breadwinners in 40 percent of U.S. households, compared with just 11 percent in 1960, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau analyzed by Pew.

Cue the MRA rage posts about unmarried women receiving uniquely feminine social benefits and entitlements men have no access to, not to mention state enforced male child support for unmarried mothers and remarried mothers. I get it, really I do, but my emphasis here isn’t so much about the factual information being skewed by the feminine imperative, rather its neurolinguistic delivery of  those distortions.

That’s both good news and bad news, depending on which end of the scale you examine. At the top level, educated women are catching up with men in the workforce. But at the bottom rungs, there are more single mothers than ever and most of them are living near the poverty line.

Bear in mind this report by Amy Langfield was what hastily replaced this report by Bill Briggs – For Richer or Poorer?, When wives make more, some men’s health suffers – on NBCs frontpage. As I’ve written before, the feminine imperative will never allow even its own message to be sullied with a male perspective.

When wives bring home more bacon than their husbands, household budgets surely may sizzle but in some cases, men may pay a price. Some guys who lose their role as primary earners are known to lose sexual steam and may deal with insomnia and other issues, researchers say.

In relationships where women’s wages become slightly fatter than what their spouses pocket, scientists have determined that men are about 10 percent more likely to require prescription pills to combat erectile dysfunction, insomnia and anxiety, according to a recent study by Washington University in St. Louis’ Olin Business School.

Naturally the comment section is rife with feminine ridicule and accusations of men’s masculine insecurities being made manifest in not being able to get it up when wifey makes more money. The apex fallacy is a helluva drug for the feminine imperative.

“There is a powerful social norm for many men that it’s important to make more than their wives and, essentially, when that social norm is violated, what this does is make them feel emasculated,” said Lamar Pierce, a professor of strategy at Olin who completed the study in February, working with colleagues in Denmark. Other research has shown that men with wives who earn more are more likely to cheat. 

It’s going to be important to read that linked 2010 article about men who’s wives earn more being more likely to cheat, because this is the crux of who gets to decide what emasculation feels like for men. Lamar Pierce’s assertion, as with most blank slaters, is that masculinity is the result of “powerful social norms”  and not the result of a culmination of what millennia of biological and psychological evolution physically made of men. The nuts and bolts get discarded when the feminine imperative defines the terms of what men feel and why they do.

The problem here is that the nuts and bolts are about the physical male sexual response. What is it about women earning more money (excluding for single mother bonuses) that makes them less likely to pass the boner test? If the feminine imperative is to be believed, it’s due to men’s fragile egos and masculinity being defined by his ability to provide. No mention is made of women’s lack of femininity, physical sexual attraction or simple logistics when she’s the one tasked with bringing home the bacon. No mention is given about women’s desire to even be in the position of being the sole or majority breadwinner.

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The main problem with women earning more than their men is far more hardwired into both gender’s psyches than the experts consigned by the feminine imperative will ever be allowed to relate. It’s not very complimentary to the imperative because it reveals far too much of its real inner workings and exposes its social engineering to effect them.

On the feminine side we have the cruel reality of feminine Hypergamy that’s constantly reminded that the man she’s paired with (or would pair with) isn’t capable of, or is less capable of, the provisioning her Hypergamy ultimately demands of him, and which she can provide for herself. For the single professional woman this imbalance results in their constant search for a man they consider “her equal”, and is the cause for many post-Wall women’s common lament of not being able to find the guy she thinks she deserves.

By this distorted logic, professional women subscribe to the social convention that they can ‘buy Alpha’; that their credentials, financial and social status ought to be the deciding factor for men’s intimate estimations of them, and any man not abiding by these conditions is by definition “infantile”, has a “fragile ego” and is “threatened by successful women”.

Feminine Operative Social Conventions are the meta-hamster of the gestalt consciousness of the feminine imperative.

On the masculine side the problems are twofold. The first comes from men’s evolved subliminal understanding about how being a provider is his last, best, resort of securing a mate who will send his genes on to future generations. Once this capacity is removed, he becomes conscious of his vulnerability to the predations of his wife’s Hypergamy.

If men met their future wives when the women already were the bigger breadwinners, “they never have any problems later on,” Pierce said. “The problems are all coming in marriages where the guys are making more, they get married, then their pay slips (below their wives’ salaries).” The study was published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.

Since mass media is rooted in a fem-centric reality, we’re spared the gory details of women’s Hypergamic re-estimations of their husbands. Rather, we’re left to believe that it’s the husbands who have an inability to cope with their wives making more money (due to fragile egos remember?) and suffer from a masculine insecurity that’s making their cocks go soft. No mention is made of men’s now-impassable Hypergamic shit-tests women demand of men affecting their previously stable marriages.

For the majority of Beta men, their cow-eyed confidence and reliance on being able to at least provide an equal contribution to a woman’s wellbeing as part of his Beta-Game sexual strategy gets flushed down the toilet when she out earns him. For Beta men, men’s primary sexual market value is derived from performance – unfortunately Betas are beginning to be outperformed by women and their wives. Once that outperformance is actualized for women, only Alpha dominance defines men’s SMV since it’s the other remaining side of women’s Hypergamy and their pluralistic sexual strategy.

The Bought Alpha

The second masculine issue is the bought Alpha. When a woman is in fact capable of her own provisioning all that’s left wanting for her hypergamy is Alpha dominance. Most breadwinning women are condemned to being frustrated by this dynamic. The majority of elite earning women simply lack the feminine grace and physical appeal to attract this Alpha dominance. Fewer still have the capacity to surrender to that Alpha, but the upper 1% of elite earning women can, and they illustrate the dynamic here. I realize it’s an old article but have a quick read – Guys more likely to cheat on high-earning women.

In fact, men who were completely dependent on their partner’s income were five times more likely to cheat than men who contributed an equal amount of money to the relationship, according to research presented at the annual meeting of the American Sociological Association.

You’d think such men wouldn’t want to risk their meal ticket. But lower-earning men may be self-medicating their inner macho guy, says Cornell University sociology graduate student Christin Munsch, who conducted the study.“Having multiple sexual partners may be an attempt to restore gender identity in response to these threats,” she writes. “In other words, for men, sex [outside their relationship] may be an attempt to compensate for feelings of inadequacy with respect to gender identity.”

Despite the masculine shaming threaded throughout the article, what’s not being addressed is women who make substantially more money, or all the money, in their relationships have flipped a dangerous gender script. As elite earners, women tend to want to pair off not with the the guy who’d otherwise be a loyal, respectable Beta provider under other conditions, but rather the men they feel they ‘deserve’. The provisioning part of their Hypergamy has been satisfied, so the visceral part is all that’s left wanting. Thus they gravitate to the Alpha cads they’re aroused by, and they ‘deserve’ by virtue of their earning ability and status. These women’s Game is a reflection of Beta men’s Game – they believe that their provisioning alone will be the lynchpin in keeping their spouse loyal.

An Alpha guy (like Jesse James from the article) grows tired of being his wife or girlfriend’s accessory, and as is the Alpha nature, he’s happy to have the financial backing to fund his infidelity. An inverse of this would be Tiger Woods’ marriage and his indulgences. The marriage becomes a means to an Alpha end (or a hinderance for Tiger), and our rich, empowered wife duplicitously loves and hates that her Man is so desired by other women, but can’t balance her Hypergamic nature any other way.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Reblogged this on oogenhand and commented:
Women could react to this by seeing alpha purely in looks and the related bodily strength.

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Stats will always hide the individual and make it about some “known” marco equation. Most of these studies deal in what they believe are “norms” (shifting or otherwise) – but they are not “rules” that govern our lives – because each of us can cite an individual case where that was outside the norm.

But it’s interesting – personally I think there are a bunch of men that are just “sick and tired” of being the only mule pulling the plow.

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A woman lives on the MotherWhore – Type spectrum.
A man used to be on the FatherWarrior – Type spectrum.

Today, being a mother or a father is a side-project at best. It doesn’t garner much respect – “Oh, so you are the mother of 4 children?”

The warrior type is outlawed, an extreme form of this being liberalism.

What’s left is the whore type, for both men and women.

I use whore in the sense of an archetype here. Think Aphrodite.

What’s a player? – he’s the whore type. Again, nothing wrong with that.
Feminization? Today I’ll call it Whorification for everybody!

Interesting times…

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In this company i work at, a lot of the senior leadership is women. Some of these VP’s earn north of 300k. The lady who heads the office probaby makes close to 800k. THere is this one VP though, who is a senior leader and she is probably bringing in north of 250k and her husband has a job working with kids and is probably making 70k max. She is a decent looking woman for her age. Ive seen her husband up close and he is a decent looking guy, but I watch her like a hawk to see if… Read more »

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Given the female imperative of finding both provisioning (long term) and dominance (short term). The high earning female doesn’t need the male except for sperm. So she isn’t so concerned if he goes cheating, she has her provisioning needs met. The dread as it were isn’t necessary, the dread was that provisioning would be lost, for the most part. What does she care if he moves on, at a low base level. This leads to a two fold “problem”. One is the bifurcation of male attitudes. There will be a few males who are aggressive and assertive enough to win… Read more »

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@andrews Yes, interesting times. It is not about the roles prescribed by society, it is about us. Who are we? One of the biggest gifts given to men – FREEDOM is now much more available. There is no obligatory marriage, enslaving the guy while he is stupid, in his teens or early twenties. We have the choice now. We have the chance to SEE and free ourselves from slavery. Are we more than walking dicks and grabbing bags for women? Do we have dignity, honour and inner strenght/soul? Really? It is very amusing for me to observe men now. I… Read more »

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One problem I see is that most of those high earning women do not have the time or energy to stay in shape and remain attractive for their “deserved” Alpha.

They are digging their own grave by spending too much time building a carreer and money instead of staying in shape.

Also, if the man wants childrens the women has to stop working and its very hard for women with too much responsability at work.

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I’ve been saying it for a few years now, feminists chasing careers are simply projecting. They area attracted to men of high status (eg high income), so they attempt to emulate this attractive quality in hopes men will find them as attractive as they do of wealthy men.

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You’d think such men wouldn’t want to risk their meal ticket. But lower-earning men may be self-medicating their inner macho guy… Meal ticket? LOL. Men don’t get a “meal ticket.” Even the average beta has enough confidence in himself to survive on his own, even with alimony payments to a woman who already earns more than him. To my mind, there’s far far less risk for a man in such a relationship to cheat than a woman to cheat on her man when he’s the primary breadwinner. What happens to the women who earn so much when the male fertility… Read more »

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It is remarkable how well my own life fits into this narrative. I am 26, but I started dating my gf when I was a senior in college. I was alpha by virtue of my social standing: cool frat boy, class president, and captain of a sports team. I get out of school, continue on my career path, and I fizzle a little bit, needing to find a new job and identity(happening now). My gf however, gets an awesome job where she makes 70k + and works 60+ hours per week with lots of travel. I watch as my gf,… Read more »

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Hahaha this post rings true! I realize that the women who were bragging to me about there careers were using BETA GAME to try and win me over… these were girls in their late 20s who were somewhat attractive but knew their looks were declining so I guess they tried to make up for it by being ‘professional’ or whatever. Too bad for them I would date but never marry.

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Why did Tiger Wood’s wife leave him? I thought wives grew more attached to their cheating husband?!?

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This is a trend that was noted at bskillet’s old blog, Christian Men’s Defense Network. What effect will women’s higher earning power have on LTRs and marriages, and relationship formation? 1. You might see some women remaining single and bouncing from LTR to STR and back again. But since most women don’t prefer to conduct their relationships this way into their 30s and 40s and beyond, women in this position will marry men who earn less and/or have lesser social status. Call it “women marrying down.” But the men they marry will be “alpha” or high status in other ways.… Read more »

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“How fast do we think divorce law reform will happen?”

Much like the second wives club driving alimony reform.

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Good post. Happens in my marriage frequently. Being self-employed there are years where I bring in the lions share, but there have been years where Wifey brought more then double. Her biggest shit test in those years is usually if she wants to buy something expensive, I have no say as it is “her” money! LOL! The old saying – What’s mine is hers, and what’s hers is her own. Cept she went back to school this past year so now I am the only bread winner – first time ever in 27 years. Don’t know if it is her… Read more »

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Great post. You answered my concern awhile back concerning what will balance the equation of feminism run amok. Odd though…

In what would be considered an evolutionary-instant women have become more masculine than feminine and in turn sparked Men to react in kind hence, balance. Mofo-nature is the origin gangsta’ and she is two steps ahead.

Some Men are reacting by not procreating with these masculine women who remain without kids in many cases into their 30’s and beyond. Tick-tock…times up.

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“’How fast do we think divorce law reform will happen?’
Much like the second wives club driving alimony reform.”

I’ve been joking for years, when asked what I think about gay marriage, that I believe everyone has a god-given right to a long, painful, bitter expensive divorce.

But in reality, I AM quite interested to see what effect gay divorce will have on divorce laws when there’s no de facto person to favor.

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You just gotta love Roosh. RationalMale speaks a lot about the Feminine imperative and there almost is no such thing as a Masculine Imperative. But if there was ever a raw sketch of it, Roosh has it. Roosh will say shit, and I am about as Manosphere hardened as anyone, and he can make me think “I fucking can’t believe he said that”. It so contrary to the Feminine Imperative. Women exist for men to fuck. Women should look good so we want to fuck them. Women should act in ways that make us choose to be with them. The… Read more »

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Interesting post indeed. Roosh is so pragmatic in his rating scale. This phrase, though, interested me: “The girl score doesn’t care if you’re lonely, coming off a bad sexless streak, or exceptionally horny—it will objectively tell you what you need to do. It prevents you from slipping back to an ex *that can’t possibly provide you with the happiness you desire*…”

Is a woman supposed to provide a man happiness, or does a man’s happiness come from within?

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“Is a woman supposed to provide a man happiness, or does a man’s happiness come from within?” A man is active, a woman is passive. That’s what makes a man happy and what makes a woman happy. To quote N. – The happiness of man is, “I will.” The happiness of woman is, “He will.” “Lo! now hath the world become perfect!”—thus thinketh every woman when she obeyeth with all her love. A man is happy to discriminate (an important feature/quality of intelligence). He chooses his woman, he lets her know what he wants. A woman is happy to be… Read more »

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What he means is your rating of them. The score of the girl. It is “absolute” and a bad streak should not affect the the threshold of girl score value of the women that you should be focusing on. To slide back merely because of a bad spell means you would ultimately be wasting your time chasing a relationship you will not be happy with. Keep in mind this is a personal rating system for Roosh. And I think it was somewhat tongue in cheek yet it did have a message about not wasting your time and yes, “attractiveness uber… Read more »

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re Op.
He never had dominance, it’s almost impossible to take it back, and if he had she probably would have married him anyway and found another shlubb to put up with her.

@keanu
Do you think that kind of woman will make a good mother?
Cause I have my doubts. Start looking for other plates I say.

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“Is a woman supposed to provide a man happiness, or does a man’s happiness come from within?” Happiness occurs on the surface. Others can make you happy. A good comedian can make you laugh til you cry. You leave his performance feeling happy. Happiness is fleeting. Love as we purport to know it is also fleeting. We “feel” love for others from what our mind tells us we want. Friendship is far deeper then love. As is joy/bliss far deeper then happiness. Happiness comes from the mind, which in itself is fleeting and scattered. Joy/bliss comes from your soul which… Read more »

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I’ve posted this before, but it’s relevant for this post… The most honest thing my STBXW said to me during our marriage was… “If I have to get a job, I don’t need you”. That was a few years ago, and at a time when I had spent the past couple years working on a business idea, found two rounds of angle financing and spending our savings – but it wasn’t moving as fast I wanted (business partner issues – side advice, go solo if at all possible in the beginning). We were bumping against the bottom and wondering where… Read more »

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@gregg That’s how the world is framed, to use Rollo’s vocabulary. Most men are in that feminine mindset. Probably a civilizational pitfall – living in a well regulated environment with little danger, where complacency is a virtue. It’s about finding niches where one can manifest his masculine drives (more than sex, of course). The liberation of the mind and the strengthening of the masculine spirit is all well and good, but, it’s difficult whenever a mindset cannot be freely applied in physical reality (e.g. the laws, which are felt to be more oppressive the larger the group size gets). The… Read more »

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The most honest thing my STBXW said to me during our marriage was…
“If I have to get a job, I don’t need you”.

honest, but not entirely accurate. she wouldn’t need your resources, but she would still need a man to lead her. all women do, it’s the natural order of things.

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@itsme May be true for someone that earns close to, equal to or more than their husband – but in her case, a SaHM, no college degree, no resume-based work experience for about 10+ years, 3 kids under 13 – would have been a stretch for her. I was looking for a little help – to lower the overall stress level – but that was the statement she made. At the time, it cut to the core, but the more I learn about “the way the world really works” the more I realize this was more about her than me.… Read more »

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Leo G “To me, real Alpha is a person who is content being who they are. Who does not desire. Who is joyful whether being with that special someone or spending weeks alone with themselves, the same contentment is there.” Nope this is not Alpha. Alpha is the man defined by women (it is the man women want). Do not mix “alpha” with the “man”. Aforementioned qualities are the qualities of the MAN. Women are not important here, it is all about him. Of course with such qualitieis it is almost impossible to put woman on pedestal, supplicate, etc. The… Read more »

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Hello Rollo, In Spanish there is phrase that says.. Verbo mata carita, meaning words over good looks. This phase is used very commonly. It is applied to guys to exemplify that a girl can fall in love with a guy regardless if he is good looking or not. If the guy has good persuasion, he can make the girl fall in love. From what you understand about the nature of women, is this true? Can a guy make most girls fall in love with him regardless of his looks? Or for this to be true, the girl has to have… Read more »

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@AP

“If the guy has good persuasion, he can make the girl fall in love.”

Damn straight. This is the essence of game. It is wonderful how true old phrases of wisdom can ring sometimes. You need a Game 101 primer. Get Bang by Roosh and read it. Also, if you want to read Spanish translations of a lot of game concepts you can find them here:

http://transmillenium.wordpress.com/

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@AP, http://therationalmale.com/2012/02/23/looks-count/

“Your bulletproof Game and charming personality wont make you look any better when your shirt comes off.”

Looks.

Assets.

Game.

Have two. Three is best, but if you only have one, Game is the most essential.

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@Phero

You’re probably right about the girl. It just sucks when you see someone do as society has told them, and become that much more unattractive in your eyes…

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“Freedom is not depending on performance. SLAVERY is. Once you reach freedom, there is nothing to prove.”

I want to prove some things to myself. The ideal of “Freedom” being absolute and free from all needs and desires reminds me of Buddhism – not my path.

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I have heard a similar phrase in English that says that if given enough time, one can talk away his ugly face. I think some French writer said it.

“Give me 10 minutes to talk away my ugly face and I’ll bed the Queen of France.” -Voltaire

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AP & BC- could it also have been that Voltaire geezer (Diderot? Montaigne?) who also remarked that if one could tolerate listening to a lady’s complaining till two in the morning, then one could most assuredly sleep with her.

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Women are looking for social status among their peers as well as sperm from alphas. I had an excellent opportunity once with a high income young woman (unfortunately still saw myself as beta). Alpha sexually, Impressive career (showing high IQ, only above average income), She was willing to bear children, she would get impressive male to build prestige with her peers. I would have had to provide some beta reassurance (making clear she is primary, other women are only fuck buddies.) Sigh.

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Persuit of happiness leads to sadness – again!

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2013/06/07/20880766.html

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Leo G June 5th, 2013 at 10:10 am I married a 60s girl. Back then bliss was in vogue. “Everyone” wanted it. I was able to provide it on demand so to speak. I get her to surrender. She bonds. Bliss. About 25 years ago she said after her first bliss experience, “If I knew it would be this good I’d do it all the time.” Net result? She has been a bitch for 25 years with short interludes of bliss – a few weeks every few years. Women do not crave bliss the way men do. Note: for the… Read more »

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Keanu: “Some guys might disagree with me here, but I would prefer to have a smart mother for my children as opposed to a dumb piece of tits and ass.” Your preferences seem to be shaped by having grown up in a society marinated in feminism. Feminists and their media lackeys would have us believe what you seem to think: that smart women work and “dumb pieces of T&A” stay home. But is that true? If you look at studies, kids with working mothers have it worse in almost every area, from being warehoused in daycare centers to getting poor… Read more »

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@Simon … Thanks for that. Good to know MEN of all ages should (and can be) at the top of their “game” throughout their lives.

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Somewhat off-topic here, but AFCism is truly a disease and it can be fatal. Man kills wife during counseling session because they were separated and she had started dating someone else. Had he been spinning plates, doubt this would’ve happened. Rollo is right: Oneitis/AFCism, whatever you call it, is a mental disorder … and I’d say, one that is not just lethal, but fatal:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2013/06/28-year-sentence-for-man-who-killed-ex-wife-during-counseling-session/

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The government plays a big role in this. I have 3 aunts that are supporting their families here in Chicago because they decided to work for the government and get their skyrocketing pensions. I have one aunt that supports her entire family on pension. Another who earns more in retirement than her husband who is actively working.

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Rollo, I’ve enjoyed your articles for a little while now, and am no stranger to things academic. I appreciate your high writing style (among a sea of lower ones), and generally “get” everything you’re saying. However, this article had a sentence which even I must admit was either worded in a purposefully obfuscatory manner (seems less likely) or is merely more difficult to translate than with a simple Google search. The sentence follows… “Feminine Operative Social Conventions are the meta-hamster of the gestalt consciousness of the feminine imperative.” Half of it, I understood. However, please explain what you mean by… Read more »

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Hey rollo I thought I would let you know about this guy on youtube making videos about the red pill and trying to make money off of it. He is even using word by word your Iron Rules like “Whoever cares less has the more power”. It even copies it word by word. I don’t know how you feel about that but just wanted to share it with you since you are not getting credit for it. here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FB1_AG3tHA

If you go to 14:40 youll see what im talking about.

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Rollo, I recently advised an Asian woman who is interested in “Women’s Studies” to start reading your blog for the most rational and calmly expressed objections to (mainly Western) feminist thought. Her English is excellent and she has done post-graduate academic work; but honestly, much of your style is seriously gnarled and difficult. There are tens of millions of potential new readers outside of the Anglosphere who can handle things like BBC news articles very easily, but who will simply bog down in confusion when trying to read your prose. Even non-Anglophones who can read and write English academic prose… Read more »

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Good day Sir, I have a question that is not really related to anything in this post and yet, Susan Walsh wont do me the favor of even showing it on her site. http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2013/05/30/hookinguprealities/the-one-and-only-way-to-avoid-being-fcked-over/ The thing is there was Dalrocks article on the Salmon run, the point being that what women do this days is so predictable that you do not have to have mad game, you just need to seem to be providery and available at the right time. Then you drag her along for some time and when she pushes for the housekidsdogpicketfence as long as its convenient… Read more »

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Is there a Acronym Appendix for the newer readers? I see lots of TLAs and no definitions – tried to search for AFC – went all the way back to the first post containing AFC – no definition – which indicates it’s a term well known amongst the cognoscenti but that doesn’t help me much.
MRA’s and SMV’s and AFC’s Oh my.

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Woman complains about Seattle dating scene in a column, gets shredded by readers. Once again, female imperative strikes again. Thoughts?

http://seattletimes.com/html/opinion/2021142903_daniellecampoamoropedxml.html

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Hey guys, random thought… but yet another example of women trying to be men. Look at the Resident Evil games. There’s literally a dozen of them or so. And men are men. They rescue the women, who might fight along side them, of course, but the men are obviously in the lead, in charge. Yet, when the games got turned into a movie series (which has to appeal to a much broader part of American society)–every movie had women as the lead, as the stars, in charge and the heroes. Sooo…. thoughts?

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My thoughts on the Resident Evil or any other form of media out there is that men have been made to be weak in every movie, commerical, advertisement, etc., be it in the movies, video games, online, etc. To me, I call B.S. To kids in grade school, middle school, and high school, it’s very damaging. In turn, they often see their Beta dad handing over all family decisions to mom. I’m not sure why this is the norm today in the U.S. It’s lined up perfectly against men: If they stand up for themselves, they’re being labeled sexist. It’s… Read more »

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I am going to suggest that there is more than a passing resemblance between the low-income man married to a high-earning woman who risks his meal-ticket by being five times more likely to cheat on her, and, the gigolo; the gigolo being a man also financially dependent on a wealthier woman who will have multiple other sexual-partners. All the gigolo has going for him is his youth and looks – and a willingness to satisfy carnal desires, so is it any wonder that a low-income husband will act in a similar manner, seeing that his ability to provision for his… Read more »

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As Father’s Day approaches, I’m wondering if all this anti-male stuff we’re reading about and seeing in every day culture is white woman driven. I say this because I know some African American women, some Latinas, and two women from Taiwan. None of these women subscribe to the theory that men are weak or should be stepped on. Heck, at my work place a co-worker (Latina woman) addressed me as Mr. and my last name. I said she could call me by my first name. She said it’s a cultural thing and chose to use the respectful “Mr.” each time.… Read more »

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You know the manosphere has gone off the tracks when I just read “Hitler Did Nothing Wrong” on another site. Holy sh-t, people need to get a grip.

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The part about rich women dating alphas seems right. I know at least a few, who were smart in career, but dumb in love.

Although the cheating low-earning husbands could have another reason, too. High earning wives are perhaps not attracted to them anymore, working too hard all the time, and forget to have sex with their men. Which leads to cheating.

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Happy Father’s Day, Rollo Hope you are being petted and fussed over sufficiently Thank you to you and your family for the time you spend with your virtual children. In talks with someone quite astute, I have had some ideas I thought I would share. The first one is a spin on your “war brides” concept. I have observed what I will call “war children.” The notion that children too are ready to abandon an unsatisfactory set-up to find or create a better family. Often at a public beach, my daughter will leave me to go and play with another… Read more »

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“But, according to my opinion, it is impossible to be the “jerk” or “bad boy” and the man.”

Difficult. Not impossible.

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“Woman complains about Seattle dating scene in a column, gets shredded by readers.”

The woman was originally from Alaska where men have to be men or they die. She moved to a city of Betas. Of course she is unhappy. She can’t even find a sperm donor.

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“Is there a Acronym Appendix for the newer readers? ”

This is a common failing among MRA (Men’s Rights Activist) blogs. I blame poor writing skills. I write for a major publication. I recently got praised for spelling out TLA (Three Letter Acronyms). So it is a common failing.

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M Simon … great line about Seattle Betas, funny (and true) stuff. On the flip side, however, Northwest women are very rude, condescending, anti-male, etc. Friend of mine, a CFO in Seattle, flies around the country for his job. He’s amazed at the Carolinas and Texas, where women (for the most part) actually respect men … well, in relation to the Northwest (where I live) where men are pretty much alienated, disliked, and disrespected. I’ve been shouted at more than once for opening a door for a woman in this region.

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It’s funny how every man on the manosphere thinks ALL men r wonderful ppl and that society is anti male ONLY because some male got screamed at for opening the door. It’s funny how manosperians talk crap aout women on the internet but don’t talk that way in real life. Everyday u men smile in women’s faces but would never tell them that u go on blogs to post about the “evil” things other women do. It’s funny how every man wants his daughter (at least I think) to have a beautiful relationship with a man wen men (a lot… Read more »

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Julia, are you a physician in Australia?

Just wondering…

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@julia It’s funny how every man on the manosphere thinks ALL men r wonderful ppl and that society is anti male ONLY because some male got screamed at for opening the door. Straw man. Fallacy of composition Hasty generalization It’s funny how manosperians talk crap aout women on the internet but don’t talk that way in real life. Appeal to emotion, wishful thinking Everyday u men smile in women’s faces but would never tell them that u go on blogs to post about the “evil” things other women do. Begging the question It’s funny how every man wants his daughter… Read more »

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No sir I am not a physician.

@Jeremy of course I was generalizing but can u elaborate on wat I said that u found offensive?

I also don’t think women naturally want to be dominated. Wats feminism for then? I hope u havebt raped or beat a woman.

Again sorry for the typos

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Don’t feed the trolls.

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But isn’t it true that men want hot babes? yes u anand other men do Isn’t it true u want ur daughter to have a good relationship with men? yes u and other men do Isn’t it true u think women want to be dominated? Yes u and other men do Isnt it true u think men r good and women/feminism is evil and anti male? Yes u and other men do. Aren’t men more likely to rape? Murder? Steal? Blame women for rape and murder and abuse? Yes men r and yes they do. U generalize by saying women… Read more »

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It takes a troll to know one, Rollo

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Jeremy, that was beautiful.

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