The New Polyandry

About five years ago I wrote a post called You Need Sex. In that essay I asserted a few key points about the importance of a healthy sex life for men. If I’m honest I kind of expected most of the reactions I got from that post and even now it remains one of my more contentious pieces. Even when I was in my Blue Pill youth in the 80s and 90s I’d run across the guys who always wanted to deemphasize sex in some reverse-psychology effort to get women to believe that they were deeper than the guys who just wanted to bang them. These were the guys who’d listen to a girl say something like, “I don’t see why sex is such a big deal to guys” or “Am I just a piece of ass to you?“, they’d take it to heart, and then construct some kind of personalized Game around how they respected women and wanted to really relate with them ‘beyond the sexual’.

That’s exactly what the Blue Pill teaches guys; they should always defer to, empathize with and identify with the feminine. This is Blue Pill conditioning at its most basic. It is a boy/man’s imperative to place women’s existence as more important than his own – and with men’s innate protection instincts for women this Blue Pill training is key to establishing a gynocratic social order.

But guys also have to find some way to set themselves apart from the competition in the Blue Pill sexual marketplace. They have to find someway to make themselves unique in how unlike ‘typical‘ guys they are. The miscalculation is, of course, the belief that the more alike, the more they identify, with (as?) women the likelier a woman would select them for intimacy and reproduction. 

Men are natural problem solvers. It’s part of our evolved firmware to look for solutions to challenges in our environment. This makes us constructive, creative, often innovative and more ready to take risks. It also makes us competitive and that competitiveness extends to the sexual marketplace. So it’s not too much of a stretch to see how Blue Pill conditioned young men might look for creative ways to outdo one another in the ‘female-identification olympics

One way this identification competition gets pushed to new heights is in how well a man might better devalue and abase his own sexual strategy to better accommodate that of the woman he believes will appreciate it. Taken to the binary extreme this means finding some way to devalue all men’s sexual natures. What better way to set oneself apart from other guys than to not be a guy? What better way to empathize with the feminine than to tear down the gender women say they despise?

Does all that seem kind of ridiculous? I used to think this way when I was younger. There was a time I might’ve even jumped on the “masculinity is toxic/confusing/outdated/outmoded/ridiculous” train because I truly believed it was the way to a woman’s vagina heart and mind. Even in the 80s and 90s this was a popular misconception. It wasn’t until I’d been through my first bad breakup that I realized the truth. Then I had nothing to lose by making myself more important than the women I was idealizing and behold! The women I wanted, wanted me – sexually to be sure, but they wanted to lock me down in commitment.

In my 20s I had unwittingly shifted from one sexual strategy to another, and I liked the change. It didn’t happen overnight. I had to learn to adopt the attitude, the swagger, the character that would get me laid, but I found that the most important part of playing the game well was putting my own desires well above those of any woman.

Suddenly I discovered I could easily nail the girls I could only jerk off to in my younger years. I can remember the time I first had sex with a girl I thought was the apex of hotness when I was in my teens. She was the best friend of the girlfriend of the drummer in the band I was in then. Both were swimsuit models and I thought I’d finally reached the goal. It wasn’t until after I dumped her to get with a centerfold model that I knew I’d set my sights too low.

Does that sound like a humblebrag? If you’re still held back by a Blue Pill mindset it probably will. I mentioned on a podcast recently that a majority of men will never know sex as anything but a mitigated, compromised transaction. They’ll never know what it’s like to have a woman lust after them. They’ll never experience the dilated eyes of a woman that would give anything to please him in that moment. Not because she’s obligated, but because her ego is validated at the same time her body is aching to have sex with him.

Strategic Pluralism Theory

According to strategic pluralism theory (Gangestad & Simpson, 2000), men have evolved to pursue reproductive strategies that are contingent on their value on the mating market. More attractive men accrue reproductive benefits from spending more time seeking multiple mating partners and relatively less time investing in offspring. In contrast, the reproductive effort of less attractive men, who do not have the same mating opportunities, is better allocated to investing heavily in their mates and offspring and spending relatively less time seeking additional mates.

From a woman’s perspective, the ideal is to attract a partner who confers both long-term investment benefits and genetic benefits. Not all women, however, will be able to attract long-term investing mates who also display heritable fitness cues. Consequently, women face trade-offs in choosing mates because they may be forced to choose between males displaying fitness indicators or those who will assist in offspring care and be good long-term mates (Gangestad & Simpson, 2000). The most straightforward prediction that follows is that women seeking short-term mates, when the man’s only contribution to offspring is genetic, should prefer muscularity more than women seeking long-term mates.

from Why Is Muscularity Sexy? Tests of the Fitness Indicator Hypothesis

The latter quote here is a simple outline of Hypergamy, but the first part, Strategic Pluralism Theory is what I want to focus on today because this is where the “sex is no big deal” cop out derives from for men.

The first sexual strategy, the one in which a higher SMV (sexual market value) male can enjoy the sexual experience of many women is a strategy predicated on what our most basic, evolved, biological instinct directs us to. It served ancestral men better to ‘hit it and quit it’ and move on to the next girl as expediently as possible for a variety of reasons. This is also a reason why women’s Hypergamous filtering is a base part of women’s sexual selection process today. The investment cost of becoming pregnant was so high that it became part of women’s evolved firmware to be hypersensitive to reproduction cues as well as parental investment cues (provisioning resources) to ensure survival of herself and her offspring. If you ever wonder why rape is such an existential fear for women you have to understand that this fear is written deep into women’s evolved mental firmware because of men overriding this filtering process by violence.

The first archetype of Strategic Pluralism Theory we could day is the Alpha archetype. This is the guy who has the luxury, by effort or genetic lottery, to pursue what I’d speculate was our ancestors’ pre-agrarian, hunter-gatherer sexual imperative. This is what guys like to call the “Natural” with women. Thanks so any number of intersexual advantages (looks, Game, social proof, preselection) it serves him best to spread the seed and women are only too happy to enjoy him as well. He represents the 20th percentile in the 80/20 Pareto distribution of the sexual marketplace.

This side of Strategic Pluralism Theory reflects the r aspect of the r/K reproductive theory. A lot of well meaning Red Pill theologians seem to think that r/K reproductive selection is only limited to the female side of the equation. I’d also point out that this applies to the male side as well. Hypergamy is women’s evolved sexual strategy, however, I would argue that men’s innate, default sexual strategy is unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. This r strategy is manifested today in our base predilection for pornography. Untempered by societal restraints, Alpha sexual strategy is what men a majority would default to if given the choice. 

More attractive men accrue reproductive benefits from spending more time seeking multiple mating partners and relatively less time investing in offspring.

I’m establishing this perspective to better illustrate the Beta side of Strategic Pluralism Theory. For sake of convenience I’m labeling men who fall into the ‘more attractive men’ category as Alphas. I don’t think this is too much of a stretch for most of my readers, but if you have a problem with this just consider the statistics laid out in the book Dataclysm. A majority of women rate 80-85% of men as “unattractive”. That last 15-20% are our ‘more attractive’ Alphas here.

This then leaves the remaining ‘less attractive men’ as the Beta cohort. 

…the reproductive effort of less attractive men, who do not have the same mating opportunities, is better allocated to investing heavily in their mates and offspring and spending relatively less time seeking additional mates.

This then is the Beta mating strategy and if it sounds like the conventional idea of monogamy you’re not too far off. This is the K side of the r/K selection theory. Before I continue I want to stress that monogamy or non-exclusivity is not a value judgement in this essay. Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks has male sexual strategy implications beyond women’s Hypergamy. I refer to Alpha and Beta as placeholder terms here.

For the Beta side of Strategic Pluralism the reproductive strategy is one that, in part, aligns with one side of Hypergamy. The 80% of ‘less attractive’ men find it necessary to compromise their biological imperative (unlimited access to unlimited sexuality) in order to successfully reproduce. This is the nuts & bolts of what is today being called “enforced monogamy”. While this idea is taken to absurd extremes by critics, the premise is rooted in Strategic Pluralism. Since monogamy serves the largest block of men’s reproductive efforts it follows that it would be the institutionalized standard for ‘civil’ society.

Monogamy is Beta

Monogamy is a social norm, if not an evolutionary norm. A lot has been written about how monogamy in its present incarnation – one man, one woman – is really the result of a post-agrarian social order that optimized the sexual strategy of Beta men. In essence socially-enforced monogamy serves the largest population of Beta males.

However, the tradeoff for women was long term provisioning, protection (in as far as the man was capable) and parental investment – all thing conducive to sustainable futures for women and their children. All that was expected of women was a compromise on the Alpha arousal side of Hypergamy. And naturally, Alpha men and most women found ways to circumvent this socio-sexual adaptation that benefitted women in spite of Beta men. 

Monogamy serves Beta men. Alpha men still get sex, broke or not.

I had the above video passed along to me by a Twitter follower about 2 weeks ago. I think he expected me to take issue with how she was defending ‘gold-diggers’ but, ironically, she unwittingly detailed the basics of Hypergamy and Strategic Pluralism Theory. She’s not wrong. Women’s sexual strategy is optimized in conditions of polygamy and polyandry, while men’s sexual strategy – the Beta sides anyway – is optimized in a condition of socially enforced monogamy. 

What’s really ironic is that this girl discounts what so many men discount when they consider Hypergamy. She couches her total perspective on the Beta Bucks, long-term provisioning side of Hypergamy while conveniently omitting the Alpha Fucks side of Hypergamy. The only consideration she has is for resource transfer – again perpetuating the Beta sex experience – and ignoring the fact that even poor men still get to bang women like her if they’re “hawt’. ‘Monogamy is made to benefit men‘, no it’s made to benefit Beta men; Alpha men solve the reproductive problem irrespective of (in spite of) socially enforced monogamy. ‘Broke men don’t get women‘,…unless they’re hot broke men.

I’ve seen Jordan Peterson and more than a few notable evo-psych professors make a similar mistake. They deliberately make Hypergamy solely about the Beta Bucks side of a dualistic mating strategy. Mostly this misdirection is due to personal bias or a want to present the feminine in a positive light. But likewise we also tend to see focus of men’s sexual strategy centering on what long term resources a man has to measure his worth by. Historically, women have generally been the losers in a social order based on a monogamy that tries to ensure that the most men (majority Beta) are solving the reproductive problem. Because women lacked the same resource generating capacity of men, because up until 50 years ago women needed men to solve the Beta Bucks side of Hypergamy, monogamy was a at least a workable solution to their own reproductive problem.

In 2018 this is no longer the case. For all of the bleating of women wanting a ‘good man’ once they exit the cock carousel, the reproductive problem they’re trying to solve isn’t founded in the Beta Bucks side of Hypergamy it’s on the Alpha Fucks side. For as much as the women in this video tried to defend their mercenary sexual strategy of being justifiable gold diggers they really didn’t need to. All of the provisioning needs side of Hypergamy is relatively provided for for women in western cultures today.

The monogamous priority – the one that tried to ensure that most Beta men reproduced – that priority has now shifted to a neo-polyandry. This new social mechanic attempts to solve the Alpha Fucks side of the reproductive problem for the largest number of women. Just as patriarchal monogamy attempted to aide men who wouldn’t otherwise reproduce, the new polyandry seeks to ensure that even the lowest SMV women are entitled to breed with an Alpha male of their choosing.

Once all social stigma and religious buffers were removed from Hypergamy (since the Sexual Revolution) it has been a rapid shift from a male-beneficial monogamy that’s been the social norm for millennia to a form of polyandry that benefits the female sexual strategy.

I’ll be continuing this post in the next essay, but before I leave this essay let me reiterate the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies: For one sex’s strategy to be fulfilled the other’s must be compromised or abandoned. Think of this on a sociological meta-scale.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

382 comments on “The New Polyandry

  1. That’s not Hypergamy. That’s a drunk, desperate, horny broad. She’s not looking for a better option, she’s begging for any option.

    Don’t misidentify.

    It’s instructive whenever a woman goes fully blatant like that, even if they are drunk. She’s attempting to communicate like a ” man “, or how she thinks is the most effective way to get the quick penis she wants.😂

    I’ve seen dozens of begging bitches. When you rebuff them, you usually get some lane attempt at shaming – ” what? Are you gay? You.Don’t like pussy? “.

    No, I’m particular.

    Hypergamy isn’t about a chick hounding random dudes.

  2. You raped me!!! My inbred redneck brothers are gonna kick your ass for this!!!! They are coming with their repeaters, carabines and revolvers hahahahahahhahahahahahahahha

    THEY ARE WICKED!!!!!! THE RED MEN GROUP RAPED MEEEE!!!

  3. “Men are natural problem solvers. It’s part of our evolved firmware to look for solutions to challenges in our environment. This makes us constructive, creative, often innovative and more ready to take risks. It also makes us competitive and that competitiveness extends to the sexual marketplace. So it’s not too much of a stretch to see how Blue Pill conditioned young men might look for creative ways to outdo one another in the ‘female-identification olympics.”

    https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/can-a-man-be-too-handsome/

  4. Yeah Rollo, that’s where it’s at… The ole Silver Fox is BIT, back in town, boys! At a music festival a couple of weekends ago, before i even performed, a hot 27 yo jumped me (25 years my junior) & it looks like it could be something more than just some festival fling… That look in her eye as Rollo described (which i have experienced much of in the past before my recent 12 month dry spell), bareback good times, her all over me in front of all comers, all my mates very impressed, the full story soon in FR’s…

  5. @ JohnD

    Good Morning.

    Regarding obfuscating your provider status, that’s a legit issue. Unsolicited advice incoming….

    You said you have hobbies, that means you’ve more than cursory knowledge of something other than your career, right?

    Talk about your hobby in a meager-earning artistic way as if it IS your career and though you don’t earn much from it, you earn enough to be happy and all the best things in life are free…right?

    How romantic!

    IOW, lie about yourself. I’ve never been a strong believer in telling women the truth about anything and there’s nothing more thrilling than happily sitting there, while a woman who’s fucked you under false pretenses (i.e. you earn a lot), tries shaming YOU for YOUR clever truth bending. And there you sit, both knowing you’ve done the right thing at the moment as she now likes you for your bedroom antics and to hate on you for being poor makes her the manipulator.

    It’s all covert, I’ve done it and it works.

    It really doesn’t matter at that point how much you earn or don’t earn. It’s in her best interest to fuck you in the here and now. No joke. You’re doing her a much needed favor by putting the sex before her overwrought BB hypergamy. Your AF will show and the hook is then set. When she finds out about your income, if ever, she’ll think she’s in some chick flick where the fuckable pauper is really a prince. Again, no joke. See Nicholas Sparks books. That shit is chick crack.

    Consider it an early Christmas present to her, such a giver you are.

    https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Nicholas_Sparks_Holiday_Collection.html?id=JZePMQEACAAJ&source=kp_cover

  6. “IOW, lie about yourself. I’ve never been a strong believer in telling women the truth about anything …..

    It’s all covert, I’ve done it and it works.”

    You mean The Red Pill is amoral? It’s OK to cheat?

    Go figure.

    Women’s sexual strategy frequently involves double binds for the man?

    How the hell did that happen?

    BluePillProfessor in regards to MRP talks about this and uses the analogies of The Gordian Knot and the Kobayashi Maru (Cheat Like Captain James T. Kirk?) in regards to the normal female sexual strategy of putting men in a double bind scenario:

    https://youtu.be/W2VS8c5MTjs

  7. @Lex / palmasailor
    “I used to pull more, and hotter women, when I was young and broke. It really seemed that it worked in my favor. I think these women really are turned on by losers. Now that I have a nice house and car, it’s as though that is all they see”

    Bad boys yes but not losers. You clearly were not a loser then because look at you now.

    Been thinking about the “young and broke” phase you raise — worked for me so I’m wondering why. Women do want to see some spark of talent, amused mastery and upward potential. But men on an upward path often go through a lag phase where that success has not yet been cashed in for tangible material trappings. (Nice pad, nice car, expensive clothes and toys, whatever). You’ve got it together but might still be sleeping on a mattress on the floor. I didn’t have a car and had to borrow my LTR’s spare bowling ball.

    The point: Having nothing yet is good for a young man — you are more free to chuck it, move, do something new, try someone new. But if some young woman is into you, seeing you in this state is absolutely thrilling for her.

    Women are curious and imaginative — not intellectually but in certain other ways — so she will be curious about what you are all about, and she will use her overheated imagination to fill in the blanks. (Just don’t let her actually start redecorating your lifestyle here or your frame will be gone with the wind).

    And because you do still have the freedom to chuck it, you are creating some nice dread vibes in the back of her mind. You remain unpredictable, a blank slate, and that’s an ace up your sleeve.

    That’s my theory. So no longer being young and broke — especially if you want a bunch of nice things — does come with some tradeoffs.

  8. @Anonymous Reader

    “Not Born This Morning

    “Biological Man”?
    WTF is a “Biological Man”
    Bruce Jenner.
    You sure that you weren’t born this morning?”

    Anonymous reader – You obviously respect the term “biological man” by “knowing what it means”. By referring to Bruce Jenner as a “biological man” you naïvely, ignorantly and stupidly acquiesce to your overlords who you are so willfully and anxiously eager to please. “Biological man” is a politically correct pseudo academic term for the likes of Bruce Jenner. It tiptoes around, ignores and distracts from his most significant characteristic. Certainly, Jenner was born male and still is whether he or the liberal asstard slime like it or not, no matter what they pretend to themselves and their servile ignorant subjects such as you.

    Unlike you, I did not fall off the turnip truck this morning and therefore I fully understand. Starting with the most basic, I will attempt to spoon feed you self evident blatant elementary truth concerning your predicted respect for and use of “biological man”.

    Words do effect your perception and clearly manifest your servile acquiescence to your masters. “Biological man” is their preferred reference because those words frame Jenner et al in the context they intend and designed for you to perceive. You are so extremely pathetically weak that you completely fail to face this simple fact although there is no risk to you for doing so. Words alone are all your masters need and employ to control you, especially your thoughts. They succeed with such excellent effect and efficiency, that you attack me in your own mind (a mind you obviously relinquish total control of). You are totally controlled by words alone, words that are not your choosing, words that are uttered and written by your masters who you have never even met face to face.

    You attack me because I attack the frame that your masters fabricated to control your mind and you, the frame that you are so pathetically and willfully eager to live within for their pleasure.

    If you were following your own balls instead of caressing and masturbating those of your masters while they mind fuck your lights out, you would ignore “biological man” and call the asstard Bruce Jenner what he really is A FUCKING PERVERT!

  9. “So no longer being young and broke”

    Success is a left handed blessing.

    Water slakes thirst and then sated, man wants wine.

    The man who’s amassed his stuff is no happier than the guy who doesn’t want stuff. It happens the latter is a lot easier to achieve.

  10. “The Alpha Triad traits can be displayed regardless of SES [socio-economic status]…”

    That’s right, and affluence does seem to come with a price if not played right.

    We can probably all agree that being OLD and poor sucks, but while you’re still young you can make young-and-broke work just fine. Women like to fill in the blanks in their own minds, so let them, up to a point at least.

    Just don’t be a blank slate in your own mind.

  11. NBTM
    Anonymous reader – You obviously respect the term “biological man” by “knowing what it means”.

    The first step to wisdom is to call things by their right names. 1970’s Olympic gold medal winner Bruce Jenner is a man[1]. Pump him full of hormones so that he grows tits? Still a man. Cut his balls off? Still a man. Flense his penis, cut a hole in his pelvic tissue, turn the penile skin inside out and stick it up into him?

    Still a man. Every cell has Y chromosomes, he grew up male. Call him a biological male / man is scientifically accurate.

    Blah-blah-blah-blah
    tl;dr

    Dunno what your problem is, don’t really care, but you are way out of date with this “your masters want you to say ‘biological male’. The 1990’s called and want your konspiracy thinking back.

    Test this:
    1. Get Twitter account.
    2. Tweet “Bruce Jenner is a man”.
    3. See how long it takes for Twitter to delete the account.

    In the current year, typing the name “Bruce Jenner” is the thoughtcrime of Deadnaming and the SJW’s won’t stand for it, the Trust & Safety committees will punish that.

    Try to get up to speed. Sorry that the cornflakes in your bowl are soggy with someone’s urine, but really you shouldn’t be eating cornflakes anyway.

    So go and clean your bowl.

    [1] “Man” in the common sense of the word. Maybe you are trolling for a good old fashioned 20-century style “No TROO Man!” argument? IF so, carry on but don’t expect my participation.

  12. “You mean The Red Pill is amoral? It’s OK to cheat?”

    Let’s go to the OP!

    “the reproductive problem they’re trying to solve isn’t founded in the Beta Bucks side of Hypergamy it’s on the Alpha Fucks side.”

    Women are convinced of something that just ain’t so.

    We’re, in our little way, helping women come around to a truth that benefits both sexes. Doing the correct thing, in the now, takes discipline, courage and faith.

    Shit, all this high-minded selflessness doesn’t help my narcissism.

  13. “Bruce Jenner is a man”.

    This is not the same statement as “Bruce Jenner is a biological man.” This form of the statement did not exist in my youth, because the word “biological” was redundant.

    The fact that it is not now considered redundant indicates a shift in perspective. Using it indicates some acceptance of that perspective.

  14. kfg

    This is not the same statement as “Bruce Jenner is a biological man.” This form of the statement did not exist in my youth, because the word “biological” was redundant.

    So?

    The fact that it is not now considered redundant indicates a shift in perspective.

    In the real world, where I have to live, the current perspective is that a man who puts on a dress can call himself a woman and demand that everyone else do the same. “Or else”. The “or else” varies from venue to venue. But it is there.

    Pointing out that man-in-a-dress-even-with-balls-cut-off remains a man at the biological level is in fact “calling things by their right names”. It is a rejection of the Narrative, therefore it is a firing offense in a growing number of companies. It’s one of the things that is slowly ruining open source software via “codes of conduct” that explicitly denounce Deadnaming.

    Using it indicates some acceptance of that perspective.

    No.
    Using the scientifically accurate term “biological man” indicates an overt rejection of the perspective. The alternative is to actually accept the Narrative or perspective and call a man-in-a-dress “woman”.

    You can call Bruce Jenner “Caitlyn” all you want. He’s still male at the biological level.

    That’s the reality – deal with it.

    PS: In other news, the Boy Scouts of America are edging up to declaring bankruptcy. BSA embraced the Narrative a few years back, now the org is dying. But no worries, the BSA can’t be called “homophobic”, and that’s all that really matters.

    PPS: Bruce. His name is Bruce, and no matter how fancy he dresses up he’s still a man at the biological level.

  15. “So?”

    So it is advantageous to know whose frame you are operating in and to not yield frame gratuitously.

    ” . . . where I have to live, the current perspective is that a man who puts on a dress can call himself a woman and demand that everyone else do the same.”

    Precisely. I referred to transgenders competing as athletes in the women’s divisions as “men with bows in their hair” with consideration.

  16. The same Narrative that seeks to ban the term “biological man” because it’s like Deadnaming also insists that one man can’t be enough for a woman, so she’s entitled to a second man on the side in her “marriage”.

    It is the same “words mean what we say they mean when we say them, so SHUT UP!” SJW Narrative. It is the same “If it is wearing a dress, it’s a woman so SHUT UP!” SJW Narrative.

    Bruce Jenner is a man at the biological level Reality. All the tl;dr foaming on the keyboard won’t change that.

  17. Boulderhead
    “call the asstard Bruce Jenner what he really is A FUCKING PERVERT!”

    You write like an SJW. Everyone’s a pervert by someone’s standards.

    “Gender dysphoria” is a mental issue. Can’t fix that by surgical mutilation & hormone treatments. This is likely a big factor in the high suicide rate among full “transition” trannys. The get all cut up and still have the same problems…

  18. “The same Narrative that seeks to ban the term “biological man” . . .”

    Although, oddly enough, “transgender woman” means the same thing.

  19. kfg
    “So?”

    So it is advantageous to know whose frame you are operating in and to not yield frame gratuitously.

    Yet you yield frame to the SJW’s by joining with them in castigating a scientifically accurate term. Curious.

    ” . . . where I have to live, the current perspective is that a man who puts on a dress can call himself a woman and demand that everyone else do the same.”

    Precisely. I referred to transgenders competing as athletes in the women’s divisions as “men with bows in their hair” with consideration.

    But now you join them in having a hissy fit about calling things by their right names.
    Odd.

  20. kfg
    “The same Narrative that seeks to ban the term “biological man” . . .”

    Although, oddly enough, “transgender woman” means the same thing.

    Nope. You’re old enough to know better, too.

  21. “But now you join them in having a hissy fit about calling things by their right names.”

    NBTM is having a hissy fit. I am not. Nor am I castigating anyone for anything.

    “Yet you yield frame to the SJW’s by joining with them in castigating a scientifically accurate term.”

    The scientifically accurate term is “male.”

    “Bruce Jenner is a man . . .”

    There ya go, although it would be better if we had not abandoned the use of the male prefix. The lack of it tends to objectify men.

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  23. Assume a man past middle age. Surgically remove his testicles and give him drugs that result in an increase of Estrogen in his bloodstream as his T drops to near zero. Result? Higher voice, changes in thinking, more tissue building up on his pecs, loss of muscle mass, shrinking penis, etc.

    What does this describe? Is it “transition to a woman”, or is it “one kind of end stage treatment for hormonal-dependent prostate cancer”?

    Question: Does the man described who is slowly dying of cancer turn into a woman when his balls are cut off, or does he remain a man?

    Question: If he puts on a dress and insists he’s now a “woman”, is he still a man / male at the biological level or not? Does the miracle of surgical mutilation remove all Y chromosomes from the body, or not?

    The simple answer is to call things by their right names. Surgical mutilation for whatever reason does not change the biological nature of a male human being, aka a “man”. Of course, SJW’s don’t like this piece of reality. Not my problem.

    However, I’m surprised to see some of the regulars going in the SJW direction…maybe they need to clean their pair of The Glasses. Get those SJW smears out of their field of view…

  24. @AR

    You left out one crucial element, place this man in a LTR with American television personality, entertainment manager, producer, businesswoman, and author. She rose to fame. While he is a has been athlete out from under the USOC thumb and under hers. A most effective form of castration.

    And some wonder how an ltr works where she has the money and power,look no further.

  25. “You’re old enough to know better, too.”

    I’m older than that. When I came into this movie you could be a bit careless with the bandsaw and still count all the genders on the fingers of one hand.

    And the term “transgender” would only be coined decades into the future. I remember David Reimer, he was younger than me.

  26. With respect to our hypothetical Gratefully Dead-named man, the real source of his syndrome (and so-called treatment/transformation to Magazine Babe) is that which fuels the entire Keeping Up With industry: Dead Kardashian Money. (As in Robert, remember?) Without his dead hand dough, the family would all have remained the meth-mad trailer trash from which they sprung and the fabulous Ms. Deadname would still be singing tenor with the Bruces chorus from the Pythons’ version of Australia.

    Speaking of bio-Men (the term bio-Woman is used in some circles to denote genuine xx sentient beings), having a prostate (or being born with one but slicing it out), along with XY cellular structure, pretty much calls the tune. This holds regardless of the chosen gender of one’s current Hatsune Miko vocaloid persona.

    I was amused to hear Super-Seattle-SJW Lindy West recently on teevee expounding on reproductive rights, as in birth control, on behalf of all persuns. The obvious context of her remarks was the issues pertaining to women. But she couldn’t allow herself to be heard saying birth control for women! She twisted herself up several times circumlocuting the term. Because otherwise she would be dissing those women who don’t have wombs or vaginas, but do have prostates, who can’t be in a position to give birth. Resulting in her banishment to Outer Darkness for un-Wokeness and De-Twitterfication.

    I might actually peruse a page of her book on it next time I’m flight-stuck at the airport book store to see how she steps around to acknowledge the prostate-endowed women who might have to be forced to give birth somehow, or at least have the RIGHT to want to give birth. (Cue: Life of Brian video clip)

    As one who has passing familiarity with prostate cancer treatments (never mind how I know), I’ve certainly not heard of de-Brucing as even part of a cure. Yes in scarier situations with high Gleason scales of 8 or such, T-reduction may be done since that may help slow the spread, with some feminizing side effects, but not like this.

    Another fun fact: our God Emperor (peace be upon him) is known to take Propecia – the claimed reason being to help maintain his flowing mane. This indeed is one indicated use. But its original indicated use was to provide relief for BPH (swollen prostate which impedes urine flow), a common problem in older men and a sign for possible prostate cancer. Which, left untreated, can result in a man truly being Dead-named.

  27. “However, the tradeoff for women was long term provisioning, protection (in as far as the man was capable) and parental investment – all thing conducive to sustainable futures for women and their children. All that was expected of women was a compromise on the Alpha arousal side of Hypergamy. And naturally, Alpha men and most women found ways to circumvent this socio-sexual adaptation that benefitted women in spite of Beta men.”

    The paragraph above and virtually (but not entirely) all of these writings seem to mostly ignore the fact that prior to birth control pills and widely promoted fetal homicide, women were “controlled” by biological consequences that they, for the past 40 + years, have been able to significantly disregard at least on a temporary basis in their life cycle. In the past, women were not controlled by men and “the old set of books” so much as they were controlled by natural biology and biological consequences. Now they are controlled by both natural biology and the man made corruption of natural biology.

    I wonder if the ignorance is willful.

    Prior to birth control and widely accepted and legally enforced relatively risk free and financially free fetal homicide, women were faced with consequences that they easily avoid today. I give little credit to philosophical and socioemotional (soap opera) arguments and motives compared to the physiological and tangible realities that restrict and allow behavior patterns. You would be wise to also. I do not believe that the FI and hypergamy functions as they do today because 80% of men are “beta” and only 20% of men are “alpha” and that men are the “romantic ones” and women are relatively more pragmatic. The fact simply is that women aren’t faced with the very significant life and lifestyle defining consequences they were faced with in the past concerning sex. Birth control and fetal homicide significantly delays or completely removes the consequences. THIS altered the social dynamic.

    History documents a few “alphas” such as Genghis Khan and Ramesses II in the past who apparently sired large numbers of progeny . Those who pretend that such “alphas” sired most of the human population in the past are full of shit. They are either extremely confused or willfully ignorant of reality or maybe they are trying to project an “alpha” personification about themselves by pretending they know what it means to be “alpha”…. or…. maybe, just maybe they are trying to sell some bullshit. IF, in the past, humans were sired by mostly only 20% of the human male population “because 20% are “alpha” and 80% are “beta”, then who sired all the rest? Who sired all the “alphas” descendants for hundreds of generations after them including all those infants that died before or shortly after birth and never passed their genes on? If “alphas” were siring most of the progeny, then how the hell did we end up with 80% of the male populating as “beta”? Wouldn’t “alpha” traits & characteristics be at least somewhat influenced by biology? Or are those questions inconveniences that must be ignored or vilified because they expose the potential fallacy of such a claim? Should we employ a deflection such as “alpha and beta are only MINDSETS, they aren’t real” to distract attention from the legitimacy of those questions? Whose minds do we want these archetypes to be SET IN and why?

    The archeological and historical records inarguably maintain that humans have existed in relatively equal numbers of men and women for as far back as factual evidence shows. Furthermore, that entire body of evidence proves that humans lived primarily in small family based tribal groups (whether separated or within larger groups) for all of human existence. Concerning a group of approximately 20 humans living together in a small tribal community, why would anyone really believe that only about two of the males in that group would be fathering most of the children because they are “alpha” and the other 8 are “beta”? What would the approximately other 8 males do to those 2 so called “alpha” males? The same questions apply to any size population and the answers are the same. Given the astronomically extremely large number of humans ever born and the indisputable facts based on real evidence (rather than emotionally charged claims) by far most of the human population for well over 100,000 years consisted of very small tribal groups bound together by strong family bonds and tribal codes of honor that enabled human survival and optimized reproduction. Given these facts, such a claim that human males are 20% “alpha” and 80% “beta” may be idiotic at best! Elementary arithmetic, common sense and the overwhelming massive body of archaeological & historical factual evidence affirmatively contradicts and convincingly disputes such a claim.

    So my question now is, Why present the 80% – 20% “rule” as if it is “true” when common sense the hard evidence seems to indicate that it is not. Is the 80% – 20% dynamic a fabrication or really a fact?

    Or, is the claim really nothing more than an emotionally charged presentation designed with the hope that as many males as possible (or at least 80% of all males) will doubt their sexual value so someone can sell them a “solution”…… a “solution” that reinforces that same doubt while simultaneously selling itself over and over and over and over in a self perpetuating looser do loop echo chamber?

    I have vacillated between “believing” most of what I read here and being thoroughly disgusted with it! Anyone can easily claim that my vacillation between reverence and alternate disgust is my own struggle “because” all that is written here is “true” and I haven’t or aren’t able to “come to terms with it”. Anyone can argue with equal validity that my disgust is the result of knowing the truth about it and that in consequence there is nothing to be revered, that is total bullshit. My vacillation certainly is my struggle. That is true. I speak my mind as it is claimed that my honest thoughts are welcome here. But, irrespective of me, what is really going on here? I am at the point that the answer is more complicated than either conclusion the above arguments seek to prove.

    One should always consider the source.

    The concepts presented ARE true. Women ARE hypergamous and getting away with more of it. The feminine imperative IS more dominate than before. “Alpha fucks – beta bucks” IS real (so is the Madonna whore dynamic). The individual concepts are each real and truly exposed for what they are. My question, however, now is, “Is the assimilation of these real concepts forming this paradigm an honest representation of reality?” The concepts are true, but is the paradigm they are used to build true? Is the picture being used to paint reality, or is the picture just something for sale?

    Or is the picture being fabricated to protect and imprison its fabricator?

  28. “Prior to birth control and widely accepted and legally enforced relatively risk free and financially free fetal homicide, women were faced with consequences . . .”

    . . . such as pregnancy shortly after menarche as something that “just happened.”

    “IF, in the past, humans were sired by mostly only 20% of the human male population “because 20% are “alpha” and 80% are “beta”, then who sired all the rest?”

    If you take “alpha” away from “alpha-beta,” what do you have left? “Matriarchy” and The Plan work because betas have children. The fly in the ointment for The Plan is paternity testing, as it requires a large degree of paternal uncertainty, which was just the way it was in the past.

    ” . . . why would anyone really believe that only about two of the males in that group would be fathering most of the children because they are “alpha” and the other 8 are “beta”?”

    Because the alphas are doing most of the fucking, and in the absence of birth control that’s the way it will work out. Haven’t you ever bred mice or something?

    “Wouldn’t “alpha” traits & characteristics be at least somewhat influenced by biology?”

    Have you ever noticed that average male height is more than a meter these days?

    “Elementary arithmetic . . . disputes such a claim.”

    Show your work.

  29. “The same Narrative that seeks to ban the term “biological man” . . .”

    Although, oddly enough, “transgender woman” means the same thing.

    So, are you a transgender woman? lol

  30. There goes EI and his acerbic wit. lessee…google “acerbic”…

    Definition of acerbic

    sharply or bitingly critical, sarcastic, or ironic in temper, mood, or tone

  31. “IF, in the past, humans were sired by mostly only 20% of the human male population “because 20% are “alpha” and 80% are “beta”

    Since most societies have had large populations of slaves, that ain’t necessarily so. Betas probably sire half of the offspring in our society. As Blax frequently notes, betas fuck, too. And since they are the ones primarily in LTRs, and kids are mostly produced in the context of LTRs.

    Science

    What are the real numbers? Zuck asserts that they’re more in the 1-5% range, with 3.7% being a high-bound figure for one study. This varies by culture and socioeconomic group, and the segment of the population being surveyed.

    So the primary determinant of cuckholdry isn’t SMV, but “culture and socioeconomic group”.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/06/the-paternity-myth-the-rarity-of-cuckoldry/#.XBL5POJ7m70

    Recent decline in nonpaternity rates: a cross-temporal meta-analysis.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19320216

  32. kfg
    ou’re old enough to know better, too.”

    I’m older than that.

    Then you should know even more better.

  33. Fred Flange
    As one who has passing familiarity with prostate cancer treatments (never mind how I know), I’ve certainly not heard of de-Brucing as even part of a cure. Yes in scarier situations with high Gleason scales of 8 or such, T-reduction may be done since that may help slow the spread, with some feminizing side effects, but not like this.

    Treatment of cancer in 2018 is not necessarily the same as it was in the 80’s and 90’s.

    Note that many experimental treatments are tried, most of them don’t quite work out as expected.

    PS: Bruce Jenner is not a woman. No matter what he pays doctors to do to him, he’s stuck with the Y chromosome.

  34. Can’t wade through all the comments, sry…What I saw was not that interesting.

    @Rollo – This is easily your most powerful essay in a long time imho. But so many men are in denial about the truth of male-female intersexual relations. They are buffering out news they don’t want to face and are ego-invested in anger and victimization and blame. But maybe that’s necessary for them?

    Some important points to digest, guys. In no particular order.

    Christianity was the victory of Betadom over Alpha males who had much, much better lives in the days of polygamy and harems and concubines. All the focus on “love” and so many feminine values. I’m starting to wonder about Christendom in general…
    Imposing monogamy on women forces them to choose betas. If they only get a single choice, and they want to reproduce, they have to pick the beta or they will have an awful life.
    This may yield many men hungry to work and keep being providers…
    Girls really don’t want to fuck betas very much. Who can blame them? Would you want to fuck yourself?
    The reason this can work is because one man can satisfy numerous women’s desire for high quality sperm.
    There is a reason girls always ingest my ejaculate. Some of them even lick the excess all up, hungrily…It’s the physical manifestation of their desire for my DNA. Nothing more, and nothing less.
    I could provide, but I have too much self-respect to do so…hehe.

    MOST IMPORTANT…

    One must change his mating strategy in the face of women’s moving away from monogamy with providers as quickly as they can. One must also face the reality – Men Need Sex.

    If you do the math of Rollo’s construction in this essay, it’s clear that men should work on triggering alpha selection in women. The problem is that this is impossible for most men. And always will be. You see, alpha is a relative thing. Social dominance is contextual, utterly. Being “valuable” is always based on a reference point. How much is it worth? How much more is something worth than another thing? Without a reference point, there is no classification possible. There will always be a top 20% of men anywhere you go.

    Women will always shoot for the top 20% guys with best DNA cuz they don’t need them to hang around to serve their purpose, they don’t even expect them to hang around or even want them to in some cases. In other words, women aiming up is based on the biology and sexual dimorphism of humans. It’s not some sinister plot to shit on betas. It’s about women winning the genetic competition.

    When Rollo mentions “the burden of performance”, he’s really talking about this grueling selection process women run. But hey, I had to run a 6 minute mile to make the high school soccer team, and if you couldn’t, you got cut. Many guys couldn’t…

    So you beta guys out there, that’s what sex workers are for. I think many of you would be well served by not marrying and just banging sex workers. Strippers, etc, these are what you get. At least the provisioning and the terms are quantified and clear. This is also what women deserve in a way.

    It’s not evil that women don’t find beta guys attractive. It’s evil that they lie to them and marry them and use them and then shit on them and dispose of them, even if they still share a bed. For this they deserve to have to degrade themselves with men like me, doing the most depraved things for me and to me while show them videos of other women having sex with me. Just so you know, guys, one of the things women find hottest in texting pix back and forth or when hanging out is seeing pix or a vid of another girl going down on me, lol. They don’t really think about me as a boyfriend, fyi. Although one 21yo is really going bonkers over me right now, hehe.

    I’ve finally realized that most men aren’t going to experience that feral desire Rollo so neatly captured, with their dilated eyes. Why is that unfair? Is gravity unfair? Is the lion who eats one gazelle but not another unfair?

    Fyi, I’ve had a massive turnaround with the young hotties in the past few weeks. I think I was just having a bad run, like in poker. Free advice to any man here who wants to bang a young nympho, porn-loving hottie? Sexualize immediately. Don’t wait…

  35. @NBTM

    Not quite sure what you’re getting at. Could you explain in more detail?

    PS: Bruce Jenner isn’t a woman.

  36. I cannot put the time in right now to re-locate some of the recent genetic studies and foolishly did not bookmark them. It looks like there have been multiple “bottleneck” events in the last 10,000 years in various parts of Eurasia.

    One that sticks in my head: about 4,500 years ago a dramatic change occurred in what is now Spain and Portugal (Iberian peninsula). The maternal DNA (mtDNA) of modern Iberians shows two different groups of people, while the paternal DNA shows only one. There’s some science parts that get a bit interesting, but tl;dr for now.

    Conclusion? 4,500 years ago a genetically distinct group of humans moved into Iberia, killing all the native men. The native women were kept around. Obvious polygamy by conquest.

    More such events will surely be teased out in time.

    The 80 / 20 rule and female attraction to the Dark Triad exists because of deep genetic history.

  37. Big “DUH” moment reading The Red Queen today. I finally worked my way through all the birds, frogs, seals, etc. to the conclusion of Part 1. The author lays out AF-BB and cuckolding ias a female strategy to get the better if not best sperm in clear, obvious language. Not just in mice and birds but humans.

    Bonus: He also points out that the cult of Courtly Love was at some level all about legit heirs for nobility, and so affording women the opportunity to get their AF from some man other than their husband? Feature, not at all a bug.

    Duh. This book has been out since Clinton’s first term and my copy was on the shelf for several years before I got my lazy self reading it. Some of Manosphere 101 has been in print for 25 years.

    Duh. Just duh.

  38. When you have a baby in the house, you realize how much bullshit is out there and real life comes knocking at your door. Watching a baby develop makes you realize that all their development is encoded in them, from kicking when they’re excited to holding their heads up to reaching for things to lifting themselves up on their arms to pulling themselves onto their knees…all preparing for crawling…babies develop crushes so that they know when they recognize someone because the babies feel good when they see that person’s face…babies will stare at the faces of the people holding them and develop crushes this way.

  39. I’ve listened to same shit forever….” u only want me for sex”…. . being in a sexless marriage for over 30 yrs……I obviously haven’t come up.with a decent response……luv your stuff…..it’s too late for me…..

  40. ” . . . the cult of Courtly Love was at some level all about legit heirs for nobility . . .”

    Well, that’s what aristocratic marriages were all about, and thus arranged, on a basis of money and power.

    ” . . . affording women the opportunity to get their AF from some man other than their husband?”

    A formalized system of beta orbiting, allowing a married noble woman male courting attention (which she would otherwise never experience) without scandal. The story of Guinevere and Lancelot was a morality tale of what not to do. In any case, it was all about hypergamy.

  41. @AR

    “….reading The Red Queen today”

    It’s interesting that some of the summary or reviews of The Red Queen carry lots of Red Pill Awareness. It’s not about denial, anger, bargaining, or depression. If you get out in Mother Nature and observe it’s all right there. Sitting in a tree-stand hunting and watching, while also understanding subconscious or nocturnal behavior with get you to Acceptance “tout de suite”, toot sweet.

    There’s a meme photo of perhaps Yellowstone out there: “It’s a strange moment….When you realize that the sound of Nature is the sound of millions of animals, birds, and insects desperately trying to get laid.

    We didn’t get here with our success of Sapiens without that dynamic. And The Red Queen Hypothesis:

    The Red Queen hypothesis is an evolutionary hypothesis which proposes that organisms must constantly adapt, evolve, and proliferate not merely to gain reproductive advantage, but also simply to survive while pitted against ever-evolving opposing organisms in a constantly changing environment.–Wikipedia

    Here’s some summaries and reviews for those guys that don’t read:

    https://www.mcgoodwin.net/pages/otherbooks/mr_redqueen.html

    https://willyoulaugh.com/red-queen-matt-ridley-book-summary/

    https://theartofcharm.com/podcast-episodes/well-read-wednesdays-on-the-red-queen-by-matt-ridley-review/

  42. ” u only want me for sex”

    of course, because you’re supposedly so good in bed (implying that she’s proud of her sexual prowess and you put her on the defensive about whether or not her sexual moves please you)
    no, luv, it’s your Ph.D. in physics that got me hooked
    don’t forget to cook something for me and my friends on game day…and make sure there’s plenty of beer in the fridge (the message here is that she does other stuff to please you)
    ..and violins…sax and violins…
    and you only want me for money, which makes you a….[this is not a sentence that you want to finish with ‘ho’, but you pause before finishing]…smart, practical girl

  43. Christianity was the victory of Betadom over Alpha males who had much, much better lives in the days of polygamy and harems and concubines.

    #Notreally

    Christianity included men with multiple wives (almost from its inception), but those men weren’t allowed to become church managers (elders) because they were expected to put their energy into managing their wives. Jacob had two wives and two concubines. Abraham knocked up Hagar, Sarah’s slave.

    There have never been all that many polygamous families in any society–they are outliers.

    The FI pushed hard on making bigamy a crime. It used the church and other institutions to push for this.

    Bigamy became illegal in 1603 in England and Wales after an act of parliament. The church had been around a long time before that.

    It’s not that hard to check out these questions.

  44. If a chick ever says, “You only want me for seX…” the obvious & only response is, “Of course! So get down there, and start sucking, honey. If you do that well, then i’m gonna fuck you real good…”, or something along those lines. Back when i was smashing it (and my mojo is back, so i’m smashing it again), i always seXualized things very quickly. But it was all part of fun play, being cheeky, getting a little rough with a girl i liked, then walking away laughing once i had her attention. I always knew within the first few minutes, sometimes even the first time she looked at me, that it was on. Girls let you know covertly, if you know how to read their signals. I never ever thought about fucking it up. I just flowed naturally, kinoing hard early like it was the most natural thing ever (which it was and still is for me) & then escalated as required from there. But i have been blessed genetically and also have a quick wit. Teasing girls just gets them so horny so fast, you can’t beat it. But i’m a natural at that. I’m the same with my mates. I’m quick off the mark for a cheeky sledge, and hard to beat at that game. So girls see me making my more Alpha mates constantly laugh, and who is it that more often than not gets the girl? The ole sly FoX, that’s who. One of my good mates, the morning after i picked up the hot hippy 27 yo at a festival a couple of weekends ago, being a competitive smart-arse said to her something along the lines of, “You can have him if you want a boy, but if you want a real man, you know where to come…” He was just taking the piss, i love the guy. She looked at him, rolled her eyes, smiled, put her arm in mine, and off we went, me laughing and calling him a limp dick… He recounted that story to me just the other night, laughing his arse off about it… When she asked after we fucked how old i was, she didn’t bat an eyelid that i was 25 years her senior, and walked around the festival with me, arm in arm. She had bagged a high value man, and was happy to flaunt it…

    Me, i was as happy as a pig in shit, but didn’t show her that. I just acted cool and calm, as it was the most natural thing ever that she chose me. Of course she did! Why wouldn’t she? But you must believe this, gentlemen. This was the mistake i was making in my recent dry spell. Self doubt. Girls can smell self-doubt in a man a mile off, and nothing (apart from Beta neediness) repulses them more. An ever hotter chick than my young (no kids) hippy babe (but with a far less agreeable personality) that all of us had been checking out, i earlier chatted up & got her attention (she was soon qualifying herself to me as a good enough singer for me to work with), walked past when hippy babe and i were sitting on a couch in the bar, with her legs draped all over me and me just sitting back with a wry smile surveying the scene. As soon as hot babe clocked the scene, she said, “Oh, hi FoX, didn’t see you there…” with a look of, “Why are you with her and not hitting on me…???” look on her face. I just smiled, winked and said, “Hey babez, how’s it going…” Hippy girl gave me a kiss, claiming her territory. Fucking priceless! It’s the best game in town, hey Scribbs…

  45. @ Palma

    Nah, all good, man. We’re top mates, solid as. He always has my back. She knew what he was really doing. He was talking me up, taking the piss like that, that’s why she’s cool. She was working on a stall a couple up from my mate’s kitchen, so had been hanging with the lads a bit in her breaks before i turned up the next day (’cause they know how to party out back without being twats). All good, solid Alpha men. The ladies love them, so it was cool to just rock in the next day & just nail it, even though i wasn’t consciously going for her. I was just in good form, having a blast opening any attractive single woman who came into my orbit. Because i was ZFG, hippy babe came into my orbit and eventually just sat in my lap and leaned into me. That was the magic moment. Game on i says to meself, and it certainly was…

  46. @Rollo

    Some of the young petunias who read your blog don’t know that you have written a book about rearing kids…that being concerned about your progeny is very Red Pill and masculine. There’s lots of crap out there that can end your genetic line–causing daughters and sons to become sterile, etc. Kids need to be taught manners of living to ensure reproduction. Fire and forget is a mass reproduction strategy more suitable for frogs than for people.

  47. scribbs

    There is a reason girls always ingest my ejaculate. Some of them even lick the excess all up, hungrily…It’s the physical manifestation of their desire for my DNA. Nothing more, and nothing less.

    This here ^^^ +1

    For this they deserve to have to degrade themselves with men like me, doing the most depraved things for me and to me while show them videos of other women having sex with me.

    Well degredation, depravity, etc etc. chastity… Morality… These are Dog Only concepts… Because – see top quote.

    Women simply cannot act along these lines… It’s not depraved when one wants to do it.

    Fox

    Good on ya for getting off your ass and going to town. Hope you can ride this mojo a while.

    When she asked after we fucked how old i was, she didn’t bat an eyelid that i was 25 years her senior, and walked around the festival with me, arm in arm. She had bagged a high value man, and was happy to flaunt it…

    Me, i was as happy as a pig in shit, but didn’t show her that. I just acted cool and calm, as it was the most natural thing ever that she chose me. Of course she did! Why wouldn’t she? But you must believe this, gentlemen.

    It really is the most natural thing in the world… for a young woman to be fully consumed in the frame of an older man. They need that strength

    I was just in good form, having a blast opening any attractive single woman who came into my orbit. Because i was ZFG, hippy babe came into my orbit and eventually just sat in my lap and leaned into me. That was the magic moment.

    If you can radiate this kind of vibe… they all want it. and those that don’t, are just shit testing you. You need to figure out what kind of shit test it is. Because they ALL want it.

    https://lifeintheboomerlane.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/again-older-man-younger-woman2.jpg

  48. LIEBERT

    “Currently reading the third book. When your Daddy is a psychopath, he wants you to be that too. Psychopaths are so confused about the world,”

    What makes you believe your father is a psychopath? It is important that you understand that what you believe effects you,not him.

    “Yet when the physical talents of another person intimidate us and we either hold negative attitudes about that person or engage in verbal combat, we are attempting to rape that person, to deprive him or her of power.”

  49. @ ASD

    Well said.

    Fire and forget is one ingredient for hell on earth and as much as some guys clutch to freedom from choice, as if that’s possible, the bell still tolls for all. Long life and money and sex and glory and fame and legacy happen in unison with more than bio-evo.

    Since the bio-evo side of intersexual dynamics is fucked up too, immediate gains are made quickly aligning life with nature. Men don’t naturally fuck plastic robots….but we do it anyways….and some call it a victory vs. the bloated hypergamy (take that FI!)…I’d call it exotifying surrender in the here and now, delaying inevitable, complete fall until later.

    The game is played with a full deck. It’s not the game’s fault men discard half of their hand, then whine that the cards are shit.

  50. “When your dad tells you, “You either go my way or the highway,” it’s like male solipsism.”

    This is my favorite line to use in my house with the people I am supporting.Solipsism isn’t about ways to do things,it is about what can I get and how can I get it. What are you Johan bringing to the table besides an appetite? In the past most men were told to hit the highway at puberty,things are way to easy now.

    “He possess an idea of blank slate, he thinks anyone can be anything. And nothing exists out of his mind.”

    Anyone can be anything they set their mind and effort to,eccepting of course a different sex than they were born as. Blank slate refers to “same with different plumbing” lies.

    “He becomes extremely abusive when any of the family members don’t listen to him.”

    Define abusive,you can still type so I am guessing he hasn’t broken your fingers with a hammer yet.

    “He doesn’t like my brother play outside, didn’t like me as well.”

    What type of neighborhood do you live in? how close to the street etc?

    “Seems he was abused at the worst degree as a child. And yes, he was raised by a single mother, my grandfather died when he was like 2.”

    According to who?

    “He creates irrational fear, weakens mind, manipulates. He didn’t even let me to get a job. I went against him, that’s my first blow against him throughout my life.”

    A man needs to learn to only think the worst,make plans and speak the best. Congrats on the job.

  51. Liebert

    You need to face your fears,it is the only way out of paralysis. A belief that you can handle any thing is a good start.

    EhIntellect

    I believe I am reading this right,With Johans permission I will give it to you.

  52. “But fear makes me paralyzed, I can’t move,”

    On fear:

    Rational fear arises from actual external threats. Example: You’re in a fight and lose ground. That fear demands you make a choice. Fight harder or flight or lie there and take it. Pretty simple.

    Irrational fear is inactual internal threats. Example: Thinking about beatdowns and not leaving the house. This fear demands nothing but entertaining limitless and mostly worthless fictions. That is the definition of analysis paralysis.

    Paralysis…

    Johan, read carefully…you are not living in the actual NOW. You are living in your make-believe psychosomatic irrational fears.

    Some more:

    Filial fear is the fear of losing one’s relationship to another, hurting someone we love: “I’ve behaved badly, I hope Dad doesn’t reject me.”

    Servile fear, or the fear of punishment, or dread, can be the starting point for filial fear.

    Now, when there is only servile fear, your dear old dad seems incomprehensibly wrathful. To every criminal a judge seems severe, you know? You can not connect your behavior to your dad’s action which paralyzes you. and you, Johan, lose a chance to act in your best interest.

    You have wounds but see no physician. Ahem, Johan heal thyself.

    It is irrelevant if you’ve done something, or not, that makes you feel bad about your relationship with your dad. You have choices: respond in a way that inflames the situation, limits your options, makes it worse or something else.

    It’s up to you, Johan, to step back from your self-created irrational, miserable fear of dad and create your own mercy, healing.

    Which reminds me: Anxiety without hope is misery. Anxiety with hope is mercy.

    Create your own mercy. You do have a choice. It’s no one’s fault but your own if you don’t act on your freewill.

  53. @Eh

    I get what your saying but get this,my dad would kick your dads ass ,mop the floor with it then shoot him in the skull gut and skin him and serve him for breakfast rawr with fava beans.
    When he takes his belt of the neighbors start crying and he uses the buckle on us.

  54. fyi – if you guys want to watch a fairly red pill show, featuring an Alpha (and all the ups and downs that brings) check out Episodes…

    Pretty funny too.

  55. “if you guys want to watch a fairly red pill show, featuring an Alpha (and all the ups and downs that brings) check out”

    Rubriosa:

    https://youtu.be/cy16jxL3Po4

    3 part series on the life of, former CH Alpha Of The Month recipient, Porfirio Rubirosa (it’s in Espanol tho).

  56. kfg
    ” . . . the cult of Courtly Love was at some level all about legit heirs for nobility . . .”

    Well, that’s what aristocratic marriages were all about, and thus arranged, on a basis of money and power.

    Yes….

    ” . . . affording women the opportunity to get their AF from some man other than their husband?”

    <iA formalized system of beta orbiting, allowing a married noble woman male courting attention (which she would otherwise never experience) without scandal.

    …no. How to conceal a sneaky Alpha affair? Surround him with earnest Beta orbiters at a tourney, a fair, or some other event.

    In androsphere terms, Courtly Love was a dual purpose construct. The visible part consisted of Beta orbiter “M’Lady!” culture that made use of men to serve the FI, the invisible part was pure Secret Society where a woman marred to the aristocratic equivalent of a Beta could still get some Alpha juice….and where Alpha aristocrats married to average women could still get some side action. The FI is served there as well, of course, because it’s something something all the way down.

    Eleanor of Aquitaine was a remarkable woman. She used her troubadors well and cleverly.

    I was sure that you already knew this. Huh.

    The story of Guinevere and Lancelot was a morality tale of what not to do.

    The visible lesson of “Leave The King’s Wife Alone! Don’t Commit Adultery!” is obvious, and well suited to the culture.

    “Don’t Get Caught” is the subtext. Secret Society morality…

    In any case, it was all about hypergamy.

    Certainly. And? So? What?

  57. From The Red Queen pp. 247 – 248

    Men and women have different bodies. The differences are the direct result of evolution. Women’s bodies were evolved to suit the demands of bearing and rearing children and of gathering plant food. Men’s bodies evolved to suit the demands of rising in a male hierarchy, fighting over women and providing meat to a family.

    Men and women have different minds. The differences are the direct result of evolution. Women’s minds evolved to suit the demands of bearing and rearing children and gathering plant food. Men’s minds evolved to suit the demands of rising in a a male hierarchy, fighting over women, and providing meat to a family.

    The first paragraph is banal; the second paragraph is inflammatory. The proposition that men and women have evolved different minds is anathema to every social scientist and politically correct individual.

    That was published in 1993. Today we are more progressive; both paragraphs are inflammatory to the social “scientist” and the SJW.

    Duh. I am reading my own thoughts in someone else’s book from 25 years ago. Too bad I didn’t read the book 20 years ago and save time.

    BONUS: Brain research keeps proving the second paragraph to be true, and now the blank-slate girls are reduced to writing ridiculous ‘yes, but’ articles that deliberately obfuscate basic statistics. A rear-guard, defensive action.

    PS: Hidden estrus is hidden, and is how hidden polyandry is possible & has been for some time, Greg Cochrane’s opinion notwithstanding.

  58. “BONUS: Brain research keeps proving the second paragraph to be true, and now the blank-slate girls are reduced to writing ridiculous ‘yes, but’ articles that deliberately obfuscate basic statistics. A rear-guard, defensive action.”

    Some people shouldn’t write on their slates. Namely the blank slaters.

  59. ” “Don’t Get Caught” is the subtext.”

    Don’t get caught by the wrong people. People who could use the knowledge to harm the King, and thus the nation.

    There were morals for the King as well. Don’t knock the bint up. If a scandal occurs, deal with it immediately and forcefully.

    “Alpha aristocrats married to average women could still get some side action.”

    They always could. In fact, they may have had a right to it. The tricky bit was not to knock the bint up. That could cause trouble years down the road if it weren’t dealt with immediately and forcefully. Under the old rule from which the right derived it might well have been the intent to knock the bint up, but times change.

    “Hidden estrus is hidden, and is how hidden polyandry is possible & has been for some time . . .”

    With “some time” roughly equal to “forever” in practical terms. It’s how The Plan is supposed to work after The Patriarchy is completely smashed.

  60. ” She is 49 and still thinks her looks haven’t gone…. so deluded.”

    Lol. There’s no picture of ” her “.

    You’re a doofus.

  61. “Lol. There’s no picture of ” her “.

    no need for pictures… they hit the wall at 23 because of the prior rough rides on the cock carousel, alcohol, drugs, smoking etc. It’s downhill from there on and they look considerably worse at 30+.

  62. Suggestion: Try talking about what you know and not what you’ve read so much. What do you know?

    All of the constant negative conjecture, manospherian memes, what are you looking for? An attaboy?

  63. ..no need for pictures… they hit the wall at 23 because of the prior rough rides on the cock carousel, alcohol, drugs, smoking etc. It’s downhill from there on and they look considerably worse at 30+.

    Keep telling yourself that, you fucking parrott, and you might keep Black Pill Madonna/Whore-ing that shit till your grave. Taking yourself out of the game is not adorable. And not fun, at that, even. Lighten up Francis and have a little fun.

    I didn’t read the article.

    But Blax is trying to go towards: stop the fucking ego investments. If you are that negative about fucking girls, why not self improve and be more attractive, not unattractive and enjoy the feminine? It’s you not them, most of the time in MRP game.

    “Weak people are destructive; powerful people are constructive. Powerful people create, facilitate, and make things happen.”
    ― David Schnarch

  64. “can’t stand that damn wind, no more”

    Can’t stand the red pill. Too much work.

    I want the cheat codes.

    Don’t want to do any work.

    You have to take the fucking risks.

    Red Pill is not deterministic, it’s probabilistic. It’s not a magic pill.

    Neil Straus is getting divorced? How the fuck did that happen? Couldn’t manage that woman no more?

    Bueller? Bueller?

    Risks? Yes.

    Fail? yes.

    https://jakeseliger.com/2017/04/18/briefly-noted-lonesome-dove-larry-mcmurtry/

    “The shadow of Augustus McCrae had hung over their courtship; Bob had never known why she chose him over the famous Ranger, or over any of the other men she could have had. In her day she had been the most sought-after girl in Texas, and yet she had married him, and followed him to the Nebraska plains, and stayed and worked beside him. It was hard country for women, Bob knew that. Women died, went crazy or left. The wife of their nearest neighbor, Maude Jones, had killed herself with a shotgun one morning, leaving a note which merely said, “Can’t stand listening to this wind no more.”

    It’s not a wonderful process and a template.

    Don’t step on your own dick.

  65. kfg
    Bell Hooks says she’s a hot mess

    She’s half right.

    – and can’t understand why people don’t think like her:

    Hardly a surprise, since she doesn’t actually think at all.

    News to me she’s still around, I figured she’d gone the Shulamit Firestone route some years back. Does she have cats?

  66. The reality is that monogamy, when properly enforced, ensures that all men have the potential to date and mate. The manosphere and their alpha males acolytes work to game the system by employing biological and sociological “arguments” regarding the overt and covert behaviors of women. “Alpha men” do not “solve” the reproductive problem; rather, they circumvent it, at best, or engage in its destruction, at worst.

  67. Allyn71

    The reality is that monogamy, when properly enforced, ensures that all men have the potential to date and mate

    What does “properly enforced” mean?

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