Rollo Tomassi & Elliott Hulse

I’m presently working on a new essay series, the first of which will publish this week, but for now I’m proud to announce that the video I did with Elliott Hulse (about 4 months ago) is now up for viewing. This was a great discussion and I think both our audiences will get a lot of value from our meeting of the minds.

Let me know what you think about this. Would you like to see more of these in the future? Was there something you’d have liked me to cover? Do you have any questions about what we did discuss?

Let me know in the comments.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

138 comments on “Rollo Tomassi & Elliott Hulse

  1. Dino Crocetti is one of a small group for whom “stardom” was a consequence of their actions, not something they worked towards. Mitchum was the same way…

    Incels, betas… Take a note from the live of the thrice married with eight kids Crocetti…

    Martin then dropped out of Steubenville High School in the 10th grade because he thought he was smarter than his teachers.[4] He bootlegged liquor, served as a speakeasy croupier, was a blackjack dealer, worked in a steel mill, and boxed as a welterweight.

    At 15, he was a boxer who billed himself as “Kid Crochet.” His prizefighting earned him a broken nose (later straightened), a scarred lip, many broken knuckles (a result of not being able to afford tape used to wrap boxers’ hands), and a bruised body. Of his 12 bouts, he said: “I won all but 11.”[5] For a time, he shared a New York City apartment with Sonny King, who like Martin, was starting in show business and had little money. Martin and King reportedly held bare-knuckle matches in their apartment, fighting until one was knocked out; people paid to watch. Martin knocked out King in the first round of an amateur boxing match.[6] Martin gave up boxing to work as a roulette stickman and croupier in an illegal casino behind a tobacco shop, where he had started as a stock boy. At the same time, he sang with local bands, calling himself “Dino Martini” (after the Metropolitan Opera tenor, Nino Martini). He got his break working for the Ernie McKay Orchestra. He sang in a crooning style influenced by Harry Mills (of the Mills Brothers), among others. In the early 1940s, he started singing for bandleader Sammy Watkins, who suggested he change his name to Dean Martin.

    ” wiki

    File under ” alphas have very different reference experiences than betas”.

  2. Just watched your podcast with Elliott. That was quite the broad brush you used to subjugate Men and Women. With over 7 billion people on the planet, you are implying that Men and Women are specific in their psychology and attitudes, thereby boxing up these ideas as the true path. It’s a narrow vision to think that all Men intellectualize, react, respond or have the same desires, Women included. In my life I have found this to be totally false. There are so many types of Women, so many types of Men and relationships. It’s not about quantifying a game or observing so deeply that relations between the two are or should always be one way, or even become scripted. Never. I’m so happy my brother is not like these men you have described. I appreciate people being themselves, to their core, without roles that have been laid out to be played by someones personal rule book, observations or lab rat science. I’d have appreciated it more if you were coming from a shared place from your personal journey.

  3. Adina
    That was quite the broad brush you used to subjugate Men and Women.

    What does “subjugate” mean in your sentence?

  4. Well, I’m having a hard time getting a comment through. Although I don’t know if commenting to Adina is worth squeezing her. But the peanut gallery might get something out of it.

  5. So, what you are saying is that digital footprints of precision flying are toxic masculinity?

    It’s just a digital footprint. It’s not real, except in your mind. You can choose however you want to think about externals.

    Who cares?

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-pilots-grounded-pending-probe-into-sky-penis-pattern

    “It was surgical,” one user wrote. “We can be proud that our fighter pilots are probably the best in the world, and drawing a penis with this amount of skill, and precision proves it!,” said another.

    It’s just practicing.

    It’s just putting your oxygen mask on an letting you fly. With your freak flag on.

    let your freak flag fly

    Idiom that refers to the moment when a person with unconventional manners or mode of life feels comfortable enough to be himself/herself in front of others. It’s when we allow ourselves not to be ashamed of our own wicked personality.

    Hey, Shadow Self.Being a dick. What could go wrong?

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4150/4964040790_176f9ab413_b.jpg

    Looks pretty innocent to me.

    “Despite the comedic nature of the stunt, the U.S. Navy also confirmed to CNN that there is “no training value” in penis-shaped images in the sky. “

    I’m not so sure…

  6. From:

    THE BARBED WIRE

    Sharp – Pointed – Twisted – Satire

    WOMEN GRANTED RIGHT TO WEAR GIANT VAGINAS AFTER WOMEN’S MARCH
    January 24, 2017 E. Williams

    WASHINGTON – In a major victory for the rights of progressive women – women who demanded the right to walk around as giant vaginas in public after last weekend’s Women’s March, President Trump signed an executive order today, granting women the right to do just that.

    Many, many feminists paraded around in over-sized vaginas at the march, but many complain they can’t walk around at their child’s school, the grocery store, or the mall wearing their favorite costume. Now they can.

    And while no conservative woman in her right mind would ever wear such a thing, President Trump issued a statement on why he agreed to issue the order:

    “Look, some women, ones who didn’t vote for me, are out of their bloody minds. I get that. But if you want to walk around looking like a big p*ssy, who am I to tell you you can’t walk around looking like the deranged person you are? It’s obviously very important to them, and I’m not here to cramp anybody’s style.

    Now, I know some Democrats in Congress would like to tamp on additional language to my executive order, but I don’t feel there’s any need to pad what’s already there. I saw no point in stringing this along. There’s no reason to clitigate this issue further.

    And for those in Congress who want to give me lip service and blow this thing wide open, I’ll abort this order quicker than you can get a mammogram at Planned Parenthood. That’s all I have to say on this matter. Period.”

    To progressives who self-identify as female, and like to wear their anatomy on their sleeve, the news was orgasmic. Congratulations, “ladies?”

  7. @Adina, LOL.. If it’s not what you believe then it can’t be real. Thanks for enlightening us with your personal solipsism and feelings. We will now discount our own observations and feelings, fall in line and go back to being disposable hypergamy optimizing objects at your disposal.

  8. well I could swear there was a comment here from Eh hitting on “boyfriend destroyer” just a little while ago?

  9. Apologies for sticking this at the end of this post; however thought I’d throw it out at you all.

    “Donna Zuckerberg: ‘Social media has elevated misogyny to new levels of violence’”

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/nov/11/donna-zuckerberg-social-media-misoyny-violence-classical-antiquity-not-all-dead-white-men

    No surprises that this type of ‘article’ ended up in the UK’s most SJW tabloid. There is a definite movement waiting to get at all of us daring to think rationally and logically. As usual this type of article had lots of very extreme & biased opinions with nothing in the way of any evidence to back it up. So looks like they’re now going back to the Classic Era to get Aristotle, Plato and all the great men (yes, men) who created the basis of our modern civilised lives.

  10. Yes, yes Adina, we’re all special snowflakes yet we’re all born as blank slate equals too right? All you’re doing is living in a world created for you to think it’s all a social construct. Kicking and screaming will equalists be dragged into understanding that there are simply aspects of our nature which were set by our evolved biology 10,000 years ago:

    https://therationalmale.com/2012/11/06/people-are-people/

  11. the game is always evolving when one sex figures out the hack and the other compensates. for that very reason the sexes are by definition competitors, not natural soulmates as we’ve been told. the irony is it’s in plain sight in the rest of the animal kingdom: the mating games are all tests of reproductive fitness in order to pass the genes on to the next generation; mating calls, mating songs, mating dances, tests of fitness, peacocking, resource gathering behavior, even deception and camouflage, this is all nature’s way of culling the losers from the winners. human beings at the top of the chain are nature’s ultimate game players, through humans, the games have evolved to entirely differently levels than the rest of the animals- and this is evolution in progress, this is what why we are no longer living in the trees with our tails

  12. Adina, Adina

    I tried to post this the other night and it failed 3 times Rollo. Might be a filter.

    Once again to try to re-Frame Adina, who seems to be lost in wilderness of investigation as to what the fuck is going on with her. And her brother.

    I lost a wordy comment to WordPress. I had typed it out and saved a rough draft, which is not as polished as the final one.

    Adina

    You are using a false premise and do not understand what is going on here in the Red Pill movement.

    The red pill movement is a collective of guys getting together to share ideas. Namely, Knowledge, Freedom, Uncertainty and the Brutal Truths of Reality.

    The red pill playing field is a masculine playing field. It is quite different from a feminine and female social matrix playing field.

    “There are so many types of Women, so many types of Men and relationships.”

    This goes to The Anna Karenina Principle:

    The Anna Karenina principle states that a deficiency in any one of a number of factors dooms an endeavor to failure. Consequently, a successful endeavor (subject to this principle) is one where every possible deficiency has been avoided.

    The name of the principle derives from Leo Tolstoy’s book Anna Karenina, which begins:

    All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.

    In other words: in order to be happy, a family must be successful on each and every one of a range of criteria e.g.: sexual attraction, money issues, parenting, religion, in-laws. Failure on only one of these counts leads to unhappiness. Thus there are more ways for a family to be unhappy than happy.

    Obviously you could substitute the word family for individuals. There are a lot of Blue Pill men out there, Adina. And they are all unhappy in their own way. Men gravitate to the manosphere and the Red Pill to be less unhappy.

    The thing is, in humankind, when humans are interacting in super large tribes, instead of small tribes, there has to be subjugating forces going on. That’s what societies do, subjugate for the sake of order. Order is masculine. It involves force to subdue threats to order. You can’t have lots of people running around doing anything they want–like whats in their youthful soul.

    Those subjugating forces tame the spirit of men and women. They dictate to men and women. You just can’t be who you are, what your heart wants. You have to behave. And in behaving, you are not who you are to your core.

    ” I appreciate people being themselves, to their core, without roles that have been laid out to be played by someones personal rule book, observations or lab rat science. “

    That would be really nice, sweetie. But that is ideology. All humans lie, all wear a mask, all try to get advantage for themselves. That’s what kept humans alive evolutionarily, in addition to being able to read our environment, and read the clues of other humans and other animals out and about. Ideology is not what The Red Pill is about, not about how things ought to be. It’s about how things are and it is a praxeology, which in essence how things are and what to do about that. It is a sharing of ideas about what actually, in the experience of collectives of men, what works. Men want agency.

    It’s a game. As such,it’s better to play the game well.

    The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)

    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)

    The terms, popularized in science fiction culture, are derived from the 1999 film The Matrix. In the film, the main character Neo is offered the choice between a red pill and a blue pill by rebel leader Morpheus. The red pill represented an uncertain future—it would free him from the enslaving control of the machine-generated dream world and allow him to escape into the real world, but living the “truth of reality” is harsher and more difficult. On the other hand, the blue pill represented a beautiful prison—it would lead him back to ignorance, living in confined comfort without want or fear within the simulated reality of the Matrix.–Wikipedia

    “I’m so happy my brother is not like these men you have described.”

    I’m sure you are. I’m sure he is a nice man. (….not that there is anything wrong with that…)

    Is your brother truly happy in his own skin? Does he have lots of free excess energy. Does he get frustrated? Does he have ongoing Release from Constraint?

    Oh, and BTW, Adina, what made you show up here?

    And Elliott Hulse and Rollo Tomassi are married with children and have happy families. They are sharing ideas on that with other men. In order for those men to prosper and have those that have relationships and children to have those families prosper. And also to have single men get agency.

    Read this, Adina:

    https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/26/whats-your-problem/

  13. No such luck trying for the fourth time to respond to the female Adina. Filters, WordPress filters.
    What’s the block?

    Filtering words? Tone?

    1. Restored.

      Sorry, the Karen Bot is at it again on another thread and certain key words are marked as blocked.

      That Bot uses multiple dynamic IPs so blocking by IP is ineffective. It also generates multiple email addresses and false accounts, so I have to block key phrases or I’ll spend an afternoon fishing out its shitposts

  14. Thanks.

    Jesus Christ, that evil feminist sister of Zuckerberg link upthread was some goddamn wailing in an echo chamber about what is wrong with Feminism, trying to assert ideologic feminism, and it’s bizarre, wrong fucking interpretation about what the Red Pill is all about.

    We all know what is going on here.

    What’s that hashtag Gender War?

  15. @Shadows

    Jeff Zuckerberg’s sister has been roving around the internet and real life having a big fit about “misappropriation of the classics”. I suspect she gets a lot of attention more because of the Facebook bucks than anything else.

    Of course that article was in the Guardian…

  16. Adina: “I’m so happy my brother is not like these men you have described.”

    Man down, Gentlemen. Sacrificed at the alter of equalism. Observe a minute of silence.

  17. A classicist with a PhD from Princeton, we need more classicists so when people tear down American historical statues they will be remembered for what they really stood for.

    A classicist is a person ( most often female) that has studied the classics for authorship and meaning , yet ascribes to none of the philosophy because, well it is just outdated. Just like peoples instinctive drivers, outdated to the point of “we don’t even need self control”.

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