The Tribes of Game

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This comment from Deti in the Evolution of Game was too epic not to make a post of. He leaves out Aunt Giggles Iscariot, the betrayer, but he is forgiven:

THE GENESIS

In the beginning was Game. And the game was with the natural alpha, and the Game was alpha. And the natural alphas created the world of pickup, and they saw that it was good.

And they said, “Let us make men in our own image.” And took they some words and swagger and attitude and nuking shit tests, and formed they men; and breathed into their nostrils the breath of cocky-funny, and they created men.

And alpha placed men into the world and told them to dress and keep it; and they did.

And alpha looked upon the men, and said “It is not good for the Men to be alone. I will make him a companion and a helper.” And alpha caused the man to become drunk with wine, and caused him to fall into a deep slumber, and while he was out cold, alpha created women of all shapes and sizes, colors and hair styles. And alpha presented the females to the men, and they said “Whoa, man!” And so this is how women were named, and it is so to this very day.

And the men and the women were together. And alpha looked upon them and said, be fruitful, bang, and multiply. And they did, with great gusto and enthusiasm.

And one day the women were walking in the garden, and a serpent with the face of Betty Friedan slithered up to them, and said; “Did alpha really say to you never to eat the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Feminine Mystique? For he knows that in the day you eat of it, you will become like alpha and men, knowing men and women.”

And the women did eat, and they found that it was pleasant to the taste. And then they offered some to their men; and the men said “but alpha told us never to eat from the Tree. What is this you have done?” And the women said “The Friedanosaurus offered the fruit to me, and I ate, and it was good.” And the men ate.

And then alpha saw the men and said “where are you? what have you done?” And the men answered “We were hiding, because you said not to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Feminine Mystique, But the women, whom you gave to us, they tasted the fruit, and gave it to us, and we also ate.”

And alpha said to the men: “Because of this thing you have done, cursed is the ground you will walk on. You will no longer be able to pass shit tests. You will become beta pussyboys. No longer will you be permitted to tend the world; for the women whom I gave you have taken it from you. Your women will become unhaaaaaaappy and will divorce you or marry you nevermore.”

And to the women alpha said: “From this day on you will be miserably unhappy, for there are none to lead you and tell you no. You will do what is right in your own eyes, and satisfaction you shall never know all the days of your lives.”

THE EXODUS AND THE PROPHETS

But came then the prophets, and they were named Ross Jeffries, David DeAngelo, Mystery, and Neil Strauss. And they foretold of a saviour. They told of the way to the woman’s heart and mind. And they did many signs and wonders with women in the taverns and the bar bathrooms and the meeting places and the bedrooms of the land.

And they wrote down the words which the alpha did give them, and it was “The Game”. And “The Game” was read by many men, who marveled at the words that were written, and said “who are these men that even the women spread their legs for them?”

THE GOSPEL OF ROISSY

And the time came for the saviour to come. And he was indeed brought forth, in the City of George and Abraham and Ronaldus Maximus, and alpha decreed that he should be called Roissy. And in the City of George, Roissy began a blog. And men began to hear of the Man Roissy; and they said “Rejoice, for unto us this day has been given in the City of Ronaldus Maximus a guru, who is Roissy the PUA.”

And so it was that Roissy began his public ministry.

And Roissy ascended to the top of Mons Veneris, and took he with him his wives and concubines. And he was absent for a time. And when he returned, written with the finger of alpha and inscribed in pixels on the Blog were the Law, given by alpha, the Sixteen Commandments of Poon. And Roissy gave the Law and the Commandments to the men; and he commanded them: “You shall learn these words and the Law and the Commandments which alpha and which I have this day given to you. You shall write them in your minds, and you shall learn them when you rise up and when you lie down; you shall know them when you eat and when you walk by the way; and you shall teach them to your sons and daughters; and you shall keep them in your mind forever.

“And you shall put these Commandments which I have this day given you into practice. Every day you shall do them, and take care to see that you keep them in spirit and in letter.

“And if you do these things which I have commanded you; then I will bless you with more sex from your women than you can shake a stick at. But if you do not do these things which I have this day commanded you, then woe be unto you men and your sons and your sons’ sons, even to the third and fourth generation; for I have given to you the Law and the Commandments for you and for your good. If my men will turn from their beta ways and will follow my Law and Commandments, then will alpha come to give advice, and will heal your relationships and marriages.”

And Roissy went into his wives and concubines, and he knew them, some more than once in a night. And Roissy came, and came, and came again, and he had many sons and daughters. And these are the sons and daughters of Roissy:

Dalrock of the Metroplex, who brought forth the Doctrine of Serial Monogamy and the Lovestruck Principle, and who sought to bestow marriage and monogamy upon his tribe; and the Dalrock also brought forth many charts and graphs and learned treatises with which to teach his sons and daughters;

Roosh V of the City of Ronaldus Maximus; (also known as the son whom Roissy loved), whose words and deeds are written in the Chronicles of Bang

Keoni of Kamehameha, who brought forth Married Game; and Keoni begat his son Athol the Kiwi who then begat MarriedManSexLife

Rollo Tomassi of the Land of Sunshine, who said “let us reason together” and brought forth The Rational Male

dannyfrom504, the one who said “If I can slay the poon, anyone can”, and he became a great Teacher and was renowned throughout the land

Vox the Genius, who wrote of the men, the politics and the Game

The Badger, who became a scrivener and thinker

The Private Man, the oldest of Roissy’s sons, promoting Charisma “for men of a certain age”

Stingray, who wrote of the true condition

SunshineMary, who taught the women about the Law

And Roissy had many many more sons and daughters who are counted like grains of sand on the beach and stars in the sky.

And Roissy’s sons and daughters themselves had many sons and daughters, each of them talking to one another and learning from one another.

And Roissy gathered his sons and daughters unto him. And Roissy said to them “you will not always have me with you; for soon I will return to alpha. It is good that I will go, because if I do not go, the Manosphere will not come. But when I go, I will send the Manosphere. It will guide you into the facts of male female relationships. It will remind you of all I have taught you. It will comfort you and cause you to waste endless hours in front of a screen learning of men and woman.

“Remember that the world, and many female bloggers with chips on their shoulders, hated me; and they will also hate you. If you suffer for Game’s sake, remember that I am with you. And remember that neither shit tests, nor breakups, nor flaking, nor snowflaking, nor batshit crazy, can ever keep you from your confident and dominant frames.

“But you have seen that which I have done, and read the words I have written unto you and given unto you. And I tell you that these and greater things all of you will do, for the sake of male female love, long lasting marriages, and intact families. I tell you that you will write greater and more insightful things than I, and the Game will reach even to the ends of the earth.

“But this I command you: Go forth and tell all the world of the good news. Go forth and make disciples of the Manosphere. Go forth and teach them all that I have taught you.”

And they saw Roissy ascend to Mons Veneris from whence he came; and they marveled at his words and what they had seen. And they resolved to minister to the beta, the omega, and the feminists who suffered for lack of good relationships and good sex. And they taught the men and women of all that Roissy had said, and of the Law and the Commandments; and many were saved from unhaaaaappy marriages and sluthood and involuntary celibacy.


152 responses to “The Tribes of Game

  • earl

    Deti is like John the Baptist…always epic in posts but stays in the desert and doesn’t blog.

    Now we just need to find the eqivalent of Paul. A white knighter mangina who saw the light of Roissy and then started going after feminists.

  • brandonleecamp

    Uh, no offense there Mr. Rational Male, but with all your logical greatness you should probably realize that people like Roissy are delusional morons who spend rediculous amounts of time blogging and heavily monitoring their comments section to even have time to actually get laid. And there they are promoting made up and untested claims to younger confused men who will grow up to be brainwashed cult following idiots.

    I would be surprised to find if out Roissy get’s laid ever and even if he did a few times a year, that hardly qualifies him to be an authority on the subject. Why are you even friends with that asshole? People like him aren’t actually helping people.

    I’m beginning to think you’re not a very critical thinker and highly exaggerate the whole ‘hypergamous women will dump you and steal your wealth while ruining your life’ thing. Albeit shit like that happens, but ‘game’ promoted by douche bags like Roissy and sex tourist Roosh V certaintly isn’t the answer.

  • yes indeed

    And God said, let the THC molecule swaddle Deti’s far above average brain in soft clothes and frankincense, so that he may continue to spread smiles amongst the land.

    So Sayeth The shephard, So Sayeth The Flock!

  • Revo Luzione

    Bahahaha! This is truly epic. Thanks to Rollo the Great Comment Reblogger, patron saint of those amazing manosphere writers who are blogless and thus paste their epicness in the comments section.

    Deti–awesome, man very funny. I lol’ed harder than I have in a long time reading a post in the ‘sphere.

  • Pip

    Brandon,

    Overall, I disagree. The single real useful message of man-o-war-sphere sites is basically to avoid looking and acting like a doe-eyed sap. All the get-laid-quick stuff that is piled on top of that basic message is pretty silly but entertaining to read. No about of “game” is going to help the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel types either (a fact never mentioned by my boys), but an à la carte application of game for regular guys is better than being a méduses féminines.

  • Sad Clown

    “Someone actually getting laid wouldn’t have time to __________” is a pretty common troll.

  • Student001

    @brandonleecamp

    Someone said recently in the sphere that Game is like the Prophets. You test their claims and see if they’re true.

    I have tested an increasing number of Game principles in my life over the last nine months. My experience has been that they work and they are valuable, not just for sex but for organising your life and dealing with other people (at work or anywhere else).

    If you were to try them for a year (properly, not half-heartedly) and saw no improvement in your life, then you would have a reason to doubt Game and its proponents.

    …. Rereading your original comment and my reply to it makes me think I’m feeding the troll, but I’ve already written this, so I’ll post…

  • deti

    Earl:

    I am as one crying out in the wilderness.

    Prepare ye the way.

  • deti

    Behold the guru of alpha, who takes away the beta of mankind!

  • Lisette

    Wow Deti!

  • Rollo Tomassi

    Does anyone else think it’s kind of ironic that in last week’s post The Shocker rakes me over the coals for extrapolating Game beyond the applications of the PUA community and Brandon rakes me over the coals for not being Game-cerebral enough this week?

    http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/the-unbearable-triteness-of-hating/

  • Alex Wright

    “Congratulations, You Are Self-Satisfied Enough to Fuck like Rats.” The amount of circle-jerking here is hilariously insane. The best part is you take this sexually overcharged meaningless shit with no regard to actual sentient other than man v.s women. Oh, and the red pill analogy is hilarious sophomoric pseudo-intellectualism at best. Here, have a taste of what it means to actually think for yourselves, act on it, and make it an art, you complacent keyboard crusaders. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymnZ7xV0chs

  • Alex Wright

    I think this is a great song for Game too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq3udzLJgGg -Just keep perpetuating puritanical animalism within yourselves and have no sentience or identity whatsoever.

  • Jeremy

    Ah… It’s good. But it kind of mixes old and new testament. Is Roissy our Jesus or our Moses? If he’s our Moses, then we’re about to be cursed by Alpha again. If he’s our Jesus, then we need to prepare for the end times.

    Yeah, I know the bible well, but I’m not religious.

    And Rollo, I’m sick to death of people trying to hold you to task for the amount of cerebellum you’re using to craft your posts. If they don’t get it, they need to think more. There’s absolutely no reason that game can’t evolve to achieve literally peer-reviewed paper type of work. Likewise, there’s absolutely no reason to use a blog to be serious 24/7

  • Rollo Tomassi

    Hold on Jeremy, I’m trying to dig up an old school punk rock video to link so angry mangina hipsters will take the manosphere seriously,…

  • Jeremy

    @brandonleecamp
    …you should probably realize that people like Roissy are delusional morons who spend rediculous amounts of time blogging and heavily monitoring their comments section to even have time to actually get laid.

    Some people still have un-monitored internet at work, or work from home. So, actually you’re quite wrong on that point.

    And there they are promoting made up and untested claims to younger confused men who will grow up to be brainwashed cult following idiots.

    I’m quite certain from that sentence that you have no idea what a cult is. I do, I grew up in one. Cults generally require donations, many times heavy donations from members in order to achieve “enlightenment” or “salvation”. Cults deceive members into believing that only through this singular leader or organization can their eternal soul or space-time-life-entity be saved from a great evil that will befall all others. From this deception they extract resources, and demand absolute loyalty to the organization and it’s doctrines. I’ll grant you that many men walk away from broken marriages and years of involuntary celibacy with lots of confusion, but the manosphere is not a cult enforcing their loyalty to game.

    I would be surprised to find if out Roissy get’s laid ever and even if he did a few times a year, that hardly qualifies him to be an authority on the subject. Why are you even friends with that asshole? People like him aren’t actually helping people.

    Their goal isn’t truly to help people. If their goal was to help people, they wouldn’t be using an internet web log to try to affect change, they would be going door-to-door asking men if they haven’t been laid in years. They would be offering these men coaching services for cheap. No, their goal is to spread and discuss the truth of the dating marketplace and how to truly interact with women to both respect and make their lives happy. Sometimes that means being a complete asshole.

    I’m beginning to think you’re not a very critical thinker and highly exaggerate the whole ‘hypergamous women will dump you and steal your wealth while ruining your life’ thing. Albeit shit like that happens, but ‘game’ promoted by douche bags like Roissy and sex tourist Roosh V certaintly isn’t the answer.

    Women still prefer the douche bags. It doesn’t take a blog to tell me this, I see it every day.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    …oh,..wait, found one,..

  • Inane Rambler

    Delete Alex Wright’s comments.

    They are nothing positive and do not belong here.

  • deti

    Kids, kids, kids! It’s all just a bit of fun. Relax, brandon and alex.

  • Alex Wright

    Address me directly and not with that fucking alpha awful pun lingo, Rollo Tomassi. Also, old school punk rock like what? The Clash? GG Allin? Crossdressers like New York Dolls? If you actually listen to what I posted, you’d know for one at least Swans has been around since the start of it all, the members of Retox are a shining light in the modern face of Mesa Boogie Frat Chode Detuned Chug Metal, and you would know what the hell differentiates noise/noise rock from commercialized lame 3 chord punk rock.
    You’re also the one taking this shit seriously because you live by it. You might as well own up to it with at least one of your dried up balls.

  • Alex Wright

    If all you center on is positivity, you aren’t actually listening to what needs to be heard Inane Rambler.
    You guys could also at least use real names instead of douchey code names.

  • Alex Wright

    Which is kind of also funny since Rollo Tomassi is a pretty awful girl-fronted mathcore band.

  • Jeremy

    @ Alex Wright

    The amount of circle-jerking here is hilariously insane. The best part is you take this sexually overcharged meaningless shit with no regard to actual sentient other than man v.s women. Oh, and the red pill analogy is hilarious sophomoric pseudo-intellectualism at best. Here, have a taste of what it means to actually think for yourselves, act on it, and make it an art, you complacent keyboard crusaders. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymnZ7xV0chs

    Your response to a light humor post on a blog attempting to understand base mate pursuit strategies is to accuse the participants of intellectual mediocrity while offering a youtube video of punk rockers.

    Is this a meta shit test?

  • Rollo Tomassi

    Ah, man, do I ever miss the philosophical certainty of being 19,…*sigh*

  • brandonleecamp

    ‘Which is kind of also funny since Rollo Tomassi is a pretty awful girl-fronted mathcore band.’

    LOL!

    At least being in a punk band will actually get you laid, Rollo.

    I’m dislike feminism and manginas as much as the next dude on here, but seriously, why did you just link to that fartiste faggot? Talk about a cowardly hater nutsack, you guys obviously protect your real names for good reason.

  • Alex Wright

    It was more of a general post probably not best represented to put on this single topic. To sum up what that was as “punk rockers” or to make a premonition of my intellect based on that is exactly what you just received. However, I can make a bit bolder claims on your behalf given all this evidence you lay out and eat up so faithfully.

    Ah, man, do I ever not want the self-satisfaction of just fitting into a role to manipulate people by “base attraction,” to render my life, again, without a truly self-developed identity.

    *sigh*

  • Adam

    lol @ manginas talking about identities

  • earl

    Forgive them alpha…they’ve been brainwashed into not knowing what to do.

  • Adam

    GBFM = The book of Revrla tionslollo zllololllololzlozloolzzzz

  • Leap of a Beta

    Wait, Rollo, you got raked over the coals for applying game concepts to things outside of picking up women?

    Bullshit, there’s no other way to live life these days as a man. I learn more about game concepts and social dynamics when I apply them to job interviews, social functions, and other parts of my life than I do actually picking up women. I’m always playing the game in my life now; it’s dynamic and fun as well as necessary to get ahead in life.

    But maybe that’s just me working as a freelance artist full time. Two or three interviews a week are not unheard of, with a minimum of 1 a week usually. Game concepts are an art of interviews and meetings. If you get their early, make the space yours and make it so that everyone is entering your domain and seeking your approval. Let the interviewer or client you’re meeting with talk first, and cater any of your strengths to what they’re looking for while turning the tables and asking them why they deserve your talent – what are they looking to achieve and why do they think their customers should spend their time and money seeing a theatre show they produce? Speak rarely, slowly, but forcefully – make them think.

    Hell, I game my family to keep them off my back, I game my brother to try and lead him out of his churchian sinkhole, and I look for ways to make his wife into a faithful, feminine woman by uplifting my brother as a leader; doing everything I can to wingman for him.

    I game my facebook, posting news articles and videos relevant to red pill ideas. I vamp up the amused mastery and utterly dismiss the feminist ideas with humor. I duck and weave so much that I keep people guessing my true beliefs and intents; laughing off bombings, shootings, politicians, and the world – but feminists most of all.

    I lose the occasional brainwashed white knight itching for blood from my old friends; but the world and my sanity are better without them.

    Game the shit out of the world. Squeeze the juice into your mouth and let it run down your chin. Cut swathes through the modern armies of ideologues and empty rhetoric until you’ve claimed your own spot in the world. Game will be your sword, your cloak, your shield. It will be what keeps your bed warm and occupied at night and put food on your table that doesn’t taste like sand after consumerist America has scorched your soul, for game will keep it whole. Your masculinity is yours, and it will forge everything you need in life.

  • earl

    @ Leap…

    I use game much more than just with women as well. My job, my hobbies, my family, my friends…everybody.

    I can’t even watch sitcoms or movies I watched back in my blue pill days the same ever again. You know how the social dynamic is playing out.

  • earl

    @ deti..

    Just remember John the Baptist was beheaded because some white knighter gave an oath to a woman after she pleased him with dancing.

  • Apollyon

    Perhaps Alex Wright is Caiaphas…

  • Stingray

    This is brilliant! Well done, Deti.

    Also, I am incredibly flattered. Thank you!

  • Leap of a Beta

    It’s true Earl. I’ve largely given up on any mainstream shows. Right now I watch Mad Men, Walking Dead, and Game of Thrones. Shows with real men in them – All three kinds of what Masculine Style describes as Rugged, Refined, and Rakish. I personally identify as Rakish more than anything, but in ways where I embrace masculinity of old – from the classics to the 50’s and 60’s model family. Then I use every element of my life to show those values in myself and make fun of the lack of them – or the way they’re framed – in modern society.

    And people eat the shit up. They miss the values and men we used to have in America. That a young upstart from a middle/middle class family, working in theatre, both has these values and has the balls to make fun of the world is something they long for. They wish we had the values of the 50’s, they’re all just too damn scared to admit it. They have to be shown the value of such through someone willing to live the life and embrace the adversity that society flings on masculinity these days.

    You won’t be wide loved. But you’ll have a tribe of friends closer than blood and a respect in your career field that people would kill for, with a good sideline of haters ready to destroy your career if you ever let them. It’s not for every man, but it’s a hell of a lot better than beta slavery to society in my opinion.

  • earl

    Breaking Bad is another good show. Basically shows the transformation of a beta to an alpha.

  • The Private Man

    Someone has to represent the older guys here. I happily accept that responsibility. Excellent post. Write on!

  • Jeremy

    @Alex Wright

    To sum up what that was as “punk rockers” or to make a premonition of my intellect based on that is exactly what you just received.

    I made no premonitions on your intellect, I’m not a soothsayers inspiration. I can say that based on your vocabulary choices, I hope english is a second language for you.

    However, I can make a bit bolder claims on your behalf given all this evidence you lay out and eat up so faithfully.

    Boldness in the face if a wall of thought doesn’t seem to be your problem.

    Ah, man, do I ever not want the self-satisfaction of just fitting into a role to manipulate people by “base attraction,” to render my life, again, without a truly self-developed identity.

    I wouldn’t consider that self-satisfying myself. I think, however, that in your case ignorance is definitely bliss.

  • earl

    And I recently discovered All in the Family. I can see why a lot of people liked Archie Bunker even though the whole point was trying to make Meathead the popular character.

  • Leap of a Beta

    Eh, I watch Breaking Bad, but I’m ready for it to be over. Each of the characters go through cycles of acting like little bitches, and one or two episodes a season they are all bitches at the same time; it drives me insane. I also would never do shit for his wife – I’d kick her out and take the drug money for myself. I could never put up with such a screeching, soul sucking harpy.

  • Ceniek

    You made my day today.
    I think I will print it and hang up over my bed.

    Alex W.
    Don’t waste your time. The more our.
    People on this site can smell trolls with the same precision as they smell pussy.
    That means – from 10 miles distance.

  • Keoni Galt

    Hilarious!

    “But this I command you: Go forth and tell all the world of the good news. Go forth and make disciples of the Manosphere. Go forth and teach them all that I have taught you.”

    SO LET IT BE WRITTEN
    SO LET IT BE DONE

  • Jeremy

    @earl and everybody

    If you want to see a GEM of a show that by some absolute miracle made it onto a national network broadcast that pokes fun at the current developed world men are expected to live in, look no further than:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goode_Family

    Not many episodes to watch, but absolutely f-ing perfect.

  • sunshinemary

    My favorite part is the face of Betty Friedan on the serpent. And Rollo, “Aunt Giggles Iscariot” made me LOL.

    SunshineMary, who taught the women about the Law

    Alas. I spread out my hands all the day to a rebellious people, who walk in a way that is not good, following their own devices (Isaiah 65:2, ESV).

  • Jacob Ian Stalk

    Epic, indeed. But it’s the story of the Mother Goddes, not King Alpha. Game is all about serving Lilith, the nightwhore, handmaiden of the Mother Goddess. It is the upholding and preserving of the Feminine Imperative as the highest of all human endeavours for men. Contrast this with service to Father God, which places grace, mercy, remorse, justice, compassion, repentance, redemption, kindness, honour and faith – all consummately greater in fruitfulness and scope – above the meagre biological compulsions of the disobedient Adam and Eve.

    If you wanted to parachute into Hell, Deti’s impressive rig would be the one to wear.

  • Saddened

    It seems The Private Mans blog has been taken down due to TOS. Perhaps he was called back to Mons Veneris

  • Bhodi

    Brandon Lee I give you credit for using your real name… By the way Rollo Tomasi is from a character from the movie LA Confidential. I guess you were getting weened from your mothers teet when that movie came out in 1998

  • Keanu

    And some people say game is a cult…

  • Matthew King

    You left out the Book of the Apocalypse, where I make my entrance.

  • Matthew King

    Which is kind of also funny since Rollo Tomassi is a pretty awful girl-fronted mathcore band.

    Nowwww I get it. Nothing more Rational than math.

  • Jeremy

    Forgive me, Rollo, I’m music illiterate even though I can read sheet music. My brain never turned on to music such that groups, songs, and genres get memorized as they do with so many people in my age group. For me, I memorized movies. Sometimes I can sit there and recite obscure movies as they are replayed in the room. When I use quotes as life lessons, I’m far more likely to spout something from a movie than any song lyric, ever.

    The lyrics on that song are great…

    I hate you for the sacrifices you made for me
    I hate you for every time you ever bled for me
    I hate you for the way you smile when you look at me
    I hate you for never taking control of me

    I hate you for always saving me from myself
    I hate you for always choosing me and not someone else
    I hate you for always pulling me back from the edge
    I hate you for every kind word you ever said
    I’ll bleed you dry now

    I love you for everything you ever took from me
    I love the way you dominate and you violate me
    I love you for every time you gave up on me
    I love you for the way you look when you lie to me
    I love you for never believing in what I say
    I love you for never once giving me my way
    I love you for never delivering me from pain
    I love you for always driving me insane
    I’ll bleed you dry now

    (I hate you, I hate you, I love…)


    I hate you for every time you ever bled for me

    Sounds like what every divorced woman is actually saying.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    Hmm,..almost like the lyrics actually reflect something in the manosphere, as opposed to the unintelligible tracheotomy gurglings of the angry post-indie-punk bands that were supposed to lend some kind of intellectual validity to the 16 year old who linked them earlier.

  • lordpajamacat

    I haven’t read “pick up” or “seduction” related material in a long time. But this . . . made my day.

    This mish mash of tropes from religious literature and the “game” community is probably no coincidence. I’ve long thought that the ideology propounded by game theorists and writers like Roissy has an uncanny similarity to fundamentalist religious ideologies . . . like the kind I was raised with ─ but don’t worry I’ll spare you the angst.

    The archetype of the seduction community “alpha” has a lot of similarities to “upstanding, men of god” that I encountered growing up.

    Here are a few:

    – approaching lots of strangers for conversation in public places, but for different reasons (evangelism vs sex)
    – male authority
    – mild interest in politics
    – looking up to other men
    – calm, collected, cool attitude, with a simultaneous allergy to what they perceive to be bull shit
    – some religious alphas are part of religions where it is okay and respectable to have many wives
    – allergy to feminism

    There are still too many similarities for this to be a coincidence. For example, a tall, rich, relatively young owner of a prominent local factory/machining company (I can attest . . . alpha) has played the role of pastor and evangelist for several churches.

    Later

  • I

    Gave me chills as I was reading it.. Sounds like a prophecy

    FCKIN amazin

  • FuriousFerret

    “Contrast this with service to Father God, which places grace, mercy, remorse, justice, compassion, repentance, redemption, kindness, honour and faith – all consummately greater in fruitfulness and scope – above the meagre biological compulsions of the disobedient Adam and Eve. ”

    I’ve heard this all before. The problem I have with this is these traits have all been perverted by your ilk into vehicles for people pleasing. That’s exactly what you and the churchians are about. All of those virtues are twisted into being psychological tools to control your sheeple.

    Grace, mercy, remorse, justice, compassion, kindness, honour have their place but not to serve the Jacob Ian Stalks who don’t even understand what the fuck they are talking about. You see a whiff of male sexual power and out come the shaming stick.

    By the way, King A already has the brow beating beat covered and he’s far more better at it and entertaining than you are.

    I know King A sir and you are no King A.

  • Underdog

    Using a tool that allows your dick to fuck a bunch of women is helping the feminine imperative?

    What the fuck kind of beta rationalization is this? Are we not men until we put our dicks on hunger strikes to boycott women?

  • CrisisEraDynamo

    Speaking of Aunt Giggles, here’s her latest post, asserting that sex differences don’t matter when it comes to relationships.

    http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2013/04/23/relationshipstrategies/individual-traits-trump-sex-differences-in-determining-relationship-success/

    Any thoughts? I haven’t read the full article yet, but I believe that the article avoids talking about sexual attractiveness, which is essential to any sexual relationship. Also, note that the NYT opinion piece, written by one of the researchers, approvingly uses loaded words like “traditional stereotypes” and “sexism”; not very scientific.

  • Senior Beta

    Good show Rollo. One of Deti’s best. And the comments help me end the day on a high note. Only a few Alex Wright type turds to step around.

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  • mikec74

    Speaking of Aunt Giggles, here’s her latest post, asserting that sex differences don’t matter when it comes to relationships.

    http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2013/04/23/relationshipstrategies/individual-traits-trump-sex-differences-in-determining-relationship-success/

    Well…Aunt Giggles has crossed the next frontier and dropped any pretense of honest intellectual debate. I went to post a comment in response to this article based on a comment from Rob posting an article the refutes the piece, and it said the comment is awaiting moderation. I purposefully avoided commenting there for a few weeks, but it looks like Susan cannot tolerate any dissent from her agenda. Here was my comment that probably won’t ever show up there:

    Rob,

    I’d say eviscerate is an understatement. One of my favorite Metallica songs is Seek and Destroy. The article you linked could basically be renamed Deconstruct and Destroy regarding the Carrothers/Reis work. The money shot from your link:

    Carothers and Reis may have been well-intentioned, ***but many aspects of their study were conceptually weak and the conclusion of many media reports that men and women do not differ in their sexuality is empirically very wrong. Sexual science deserves better.*** Men and women show marked differences in many sexual attributes, particularly in sociosexual attitudes, short-term mating tendencies, and expressed mate preferences.

    Let’s all start swallowing those blue pills.

  • infowarrior1

    Reblogged this on Breaking through illusions and commented:
    Damn good. A rendition of Human behavioural dynamics in biblical terms.

  • Afonso Henriques

    Hello there,

    This is rather off topic and I am sorry to bother you, but I know Yareally comments here sometimes and I want to contact him urgently.

    So, Rollo, if you could please tell Yareally that I would like to change some ideas with him, please tell him and direct him to here.

    I am doing this here because I would like very much to change some ideas with him and because I got banned on heartiste.

    Please, if you can do it, I’d thank you Rollo, and the same is valid to anyone who “interacts” with Yareally on line, like the always-benefic-to-read, Matthew King.

    I am sorry if I’m bothering you but at least I had to try.

    Thank you

  • Rollo Tomassi

    @MikeC and anyone else censored by Giggles Iscariot: always feel free to post your deleted / moderated comments here. Hell, if we get enough I may even dedicate a new page to them just to archive the truth about HUS for the next time she bleats about her blog’s integrity.

  • Case

    I woke up this morning thinking there was an oversight in the narrative but looks like Adam beat me to it, just the same:
    “As it remained necessary to keep a low profile, catechumens of game sometimes recognized each other secretly in public by scribling the ichthys of their movement, sometimes on a white board, sometimes on a napkin, sometimes right into a PowerPoint presentation they were delivering to an audience of 300, ‘lzozlzlz’. Knowing nods, glances, eye contact or winks were exchanged while the majority of the audience went about its way, entirely unaware. By this they knew each other.”

    @Rollo 6:08 am – maybe call the page “Banned by Giggles”?

  • immoralgables

    @Alfonso

    Quit being a fucking wierdo

  • Underdog

    I made a comment on HUS a long time ago that Susan was swallowing the blue pill again. Such is the result of women regressing back into their own value system. The pull of the hamster is strong indeed. Between her rebuilding the matrix walls and constant raving of Girls, that site’s gonna turn into Jizzabel 2 in a couple years.

  • Case

    re: “individual-traits-trump-sex-differences-in-determining-relationship-success” … lifted from the link text to HUS in mikec74 1:31 …

    This is an area I’d be curious to see Rollo expand on. I guess since the spirit of the day is biblical a phrase coming to mind is “fruitful soil” as in “plant your seed in …” which also brings back things Rollo has said about triage.

    Rollo’s approach has reached exceptionally fruitful soil in my case (no pun intended) because I crossed the nexus in Rollo’s “final exam” (http://therationalmale.com/2012/06/04/final-exam-navigating-the-smp/) and specifically what Rollo describes about female mating psychology resonates with me both because: (1) I can remember back to “pre-nexus”, what I was doing wrong, and I’m sure like a lot of folks it makes sense to me now why that was wrong and (2) I experience externalities now (i.e.: how people, especially women treat me) much as a woman in her 20s.

    That’s to say that especially with eyes opened by this blog – you clue into a simple truth: people, men and women, have differing SMVs in the SMP and these differences, together with the fact that we are attracted to one another despite (or because) of our differences, leads to varying mating strategies.

    So men mature in SMV slower than women (again, see: http://therationalmale.com/2012/06/04/final-exam-navigating-the-smp/). So men in their 20s, on the whole, have lower SMVs than women in their 20s.

    How do most men cope with this difference so as to impress themselves upon their female peers?

    Beta game.

    Cross over 30 and things switch. Now – in 2013 there seems to be a 5 year period of turmoil from 30-35 for many women where anything happens, but post 35 the trend is clear … women, on the whole, having less SMV than their male peers, compensate. How so?

    Beta game.

    Same thing – different gender, different age, same game though.

    Which makes me wonder too … is that at all what “femininity” is about, at least as it regards male preference for it? Is that basically like asking women in their 20s to not wear their SMV on their sleave? To be more humble about it, especially since it has a shelf life?

    So, in sum two things:

    1) Turn ons for men and women vary – men being more principally visual but responding I think to femininity/”beta game” of dedication/commitment, etc – women also being much more visual than is admitted or reported, but responding to masculinity/”alpha game” of confidence/dominance

    but

    2) Strategies do not appear to differ so much by gender, as they do by relative SMV

    So – “individual-traits” … I’m not sure about that, but human characteristics crossed by age and gender, there we seem on to something.

  • CrisisEraDynamo

    Here’s a handy refutation of the study I linked upthread:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sexual-personalities/201302/when-is-sex-difference-real

    I’ve even set up a reddit thread to discuss the article.

  • CrisisEraDynamo

    Sorry, spam filter ate my post.

    Here’s a handy refutation of the study I linked upthread:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sexual-personalities/201302/when-is-sex-difference-real

  • CrisisEraDynamo

    And here’s the Reddit thread I set up to discuss the article:

    http://redd.it/1czk6c

  • shinzaemon

    Rollo,
    I don’t know what you did, but today my work is blocking this site. Discussing hypergamy is NSFW, I guess…..,

  • Rollo Tomassi

    @shinzaemon, In anticipation of the book’s publication I finally bought the domain, therationalmale.com and have it linking from my old free wordpress blog. That might be it (?)

  • Kate

    I noticed that the “recent comments” hasn’t been coming up on the sidebar for a while. I always liked seeing those.

  • Stingray

    Rollo,

    I love the picture you put at the top of the post. I can’t think of anything more perfect.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    I’m an artist, what can I say?

  • b-166-er

    People like Roissy are delusional morons who spend rediculous amounts of time blogging and heavily monitoring their comments section to even have time to actually get laid. And there they are promoting made up and untested claims to younger confused men who will grow up to be brainwashed cult following idiots.
    ——————————————————————
    Brandonlee does have a point, but its not limited to Roissy. Most blogs, however noble their origins, eventually turn into echo chambering cults. But even here there is great utility. The key is to pay attention to comments that get blocked/deleted…

    This is where true learning takes place. It is up to you to find the “soft spots” an hypocrisy in the logic. Fortunately these game blogs will often do this work for you by blocking/deleting your comments that reveal them.

    Pay close attention when that happens to you.

    For far too many men, game blogs are not an arena for learning; but a never ending pep rally.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    I don’t think Aunt Giggle’s latest is really all that. Only 18 comments? Damn, she must really be moderating heavy.

  • itsme

    brandon, did roissy bang your gf or something?

  • Jeremy

    @mikec74

    Speaking of Aunt Giggles,… {she} has crossed the next frontier and dropped any pretense of honest intellectual debate. …
    Let’s all start swallowing those blue pills.

    Let me make up a story… Lets say we have a business transaction. Bob has owned some very nice, beautiful property for some time. He has opened his gates to a number of would-be tenants, but no one has agreed to a deal. Finally, after years of letting people stay over night on his property to try and find a tenant, Richard has agreed to a long-term lease of Bob’s property. Richard owns no property, but he is a capable producer of sustenance and wealth.

    Now, on the lease agreement there are very specific requirements for lessee and the owner. Strangely, most leases in the world are now standard and few people question them. In fact the world has stopped considering new arrangements or agreements such that the fine print of leases are never read or reviewed anymore. Richard didn’t care what the fine print said, he saw the property, knew it would be good for his purposes, and went up to ask Bob to lease it. He was operating under the assumption that there would be no issue with how he intended to use the property. In his view, the standard lease agreement must cover his use case since he wasn’t planning on doing anything different with the property than anyone else who has a lease.

    Now, 5 years go by, and the Richard has kept up his end of the bargain. He’s maintained the property as agreed, he’s provided irrigation where needed, maintenance where required, and even paid for some upgrades when desired. More importantly, he has planted wonderful fruit tree seeds that are soon to be approaching adolescence and bear fruit for both Richard and Bob (per the agreement).

    However, over this time, he has watched all his neighbors get evicted from their leases, one by one. These neighbors were replaced by new lessee’s who seem to have greater income and more toys to adorn the property with. Bob is not ignorant of this, so he begins to try to get Richard to try not to let Bob’s property look so meager and useless compared to the neighboring properties. Only two years later, with Richard frantically redirecting money to property improvements to try to appease his landlord, Bob formally requests a re-negotiation of the lease deal or Richard will be evicted.

    Richard is shocked at this turn of events and attempts to bargain with Bob as best he can, promising a new source of income, a bonus check each year and even greater work to make the land look better. Meanwhile, Richard is desperate, realizing he’s heading for a confrontation but not knowing what to do, he turns to the internet. There he begins reading the fine print on leases that he never read, he tries to understand this arrangement he’s gotten himself into as best he can.

    Bob, being the owner of the property and the person who drew up the lease agreement, knows what position Richard is in and was monitoring Richards internet use. So at the next negotiation cycle he brings out all sorts of research that demonstrates how unfair the lease agreement is to property owners. He boldly claims that Lessee’s and Owners are the same, that they are equals and clearly approach the business transaction in the exact same way with the exact same motivations. Bob uses this to try to prove to Richard that he’s being unreasonable by not agreeing to a new lease. Since they are agreed upon “equals” in the transaction, it can’t be unreasonable to request something more in the deal as Bob is only trying to improve conditions for his “equal” tenant.

    Now, in this case, Aunt Giggles is the researcher on Bob’s presented evidence of tenant/owner equality. IMHO, it should be obvious to anyone with their eyes open that the sexes do not approach a relationship with even remotely similar expectations or understanding. Attempting to disagree with this is only trying to preserve a lie.

  • freebird

    Unlike the Old Testament your Game lacks the enforcement arm.

    Those who went against God were stoned.

    Today wimmin are encouraged to incarcerate as many men as possible.

    You have no pimp hand,you ARE emasculated,your pontifications mere entertainment lacking substance.

    Ian was closest to being correct,he also failed to mention that the assumed predator/prey power dynamic is actually inverted as to what is *supposed.*

    That’s short for FU.

  • freebird

    Cool,the rent analogy made it worth my time to stop by,thanks Jeremy.

  • freebird

    That is to say:
    The long cock of “The Law” is not impressed by your bragging.
    You are not “The Law.”
    Women run “The Law.”

    Comply with “The Law” of be destroyed,ye so weak as to NOT *become* “The Law.”

    Weak,yes,pussy weak!
    (pussy bois)

  • Jeremy

    @b-166-er

    For far too many men, game blogs are not an arena for learning; but a never ending pep rally.

    Is that really true? I only go to blogs to find something new. When blogs stop showing me something new to think about, I generally stop going. It was this way for me and the climate change skeptic blogsosphere. It was interesting when there was political intrigue and scientists openly lying about their research mistakes. It was interesting when it was unknown how it was all going to play out. These days it seems obvious that the great catastrophic global warming scare is going to die with a large wimper and many people are going to just quietly lose money on the deal. People these days just look beyond ridiculous when they start trying to convince you that your exhaled CO2 is going to boil the earth. I sometimes go visit them when something interesting happens. But at this point it’s so painfully obvious that the worlds climate is not catastrophically changing from CO2 emissions that the blogs are just very loud echo chambers that the mainstream media is only beginning to hear.

    The manosphere isn’t that way yet, but it’s closer to that point than I would like actually. I wish I had found it 4 years earlier. When it gets to that point of the MSM starting to openly accept some of the tenets of red pill wisdom, then it will likely be mostly an echo chamber. At that point is when the bloggers should seriously consider publishing sociology books/peer-reviewed-papers on what they believe they have, or have already written them and be writing follow-ons.

    I’m serious about this. While this sphere would seem to be far from an academic circle at this point, there have been much worse origins for some of the things academia considers absolute truth.

  • neme

    no offense but all this roleplay bullshit seems pretty pathetic. I can hardly accept that it’s coming from your brilliant non-deluded mind

  • avd

    Noobs: pay attention.

    Let’s see: first, xsplat was lame, because he escaped a flailing by Western legal jurisdictions, and found himself in a new culture, fucking young females with different cultural traits than what is found in North America, and being incredibly open and humble in sharing his life experiences with this community. And Roosh is lame, because he beds Eastern Europeans, who only bed him because they are poor, and is now focusing on efficiency rather than only a life sentence of endlessly cold approaching bar sluts. And now, females are spreading their legs for men only because those men come across as the “smart type,” “philosophical type.” Not to mention the snarks and swipes and bullshit frame attempts at INNUMERABLE various commenters over the past year, because their realities did not match 100% the warped reality of YaReally.

    Is anyone detecting a pattern here? It seems that we are all collectively deluded. The apparent truth is that reality is whatever RSD says it is, via YaReally, and that reality must at ALL times be framed harshly, and in black/white absolutes in order for it to entrance noobs… and to mislead them into false beliefs that will ultimately damage them. And now we have The Shocker… give us a break, already.

    Evidently, there is no room in this vast universe of potential for any other perspective in homo sapien male/female relations other than the awkward surface-level behavioral gesticulations of RSD, which are endlessly proselytized via the EMPTY faux-alpha frame of “hard case” YaReally.

    Wow. Who’d have thunk it? I guess all that time I’ve spent with wet primo-quality pussies cumming on my cock—without an ounce of RSD foolishness—has merely been a colossal waste of my time. I suppose I should start all over at the very genesis—YouTube RSD videos—and reconstruct my identity, so that I can finally sleep with low-quality LA bar sluts. Damn, this is really going to screw up my plans.

    Conclusion: Men, don’t concern yourselves with being a man, to the VERY core… instead, simply learn to manipulate shallow social interactions like a female… and “be a boss.” Yes, that is the path to fulfillment in life. YouTube link here:

    Humility, much?

    AND, I’ll make a deal with the community: ALL of you, STOP tolerating straw man arguments and the faux-alpha framing bullshit from YaReally and his ilk, and you will RARELY hear from me again, as I would much rather lazily lurk, as I did for 5 years before the idiot arrived on the scene.

  • saint of killers

    “AND, I’ll make a deal with the community: ALL of you, STOP tolerating straw man arguments and the faux-alpha framing bullshit from YaReally and his ilk, and you will RARELY hear from me again, as I would much rather lazily lurk, as I did for 5 years before the idiot arrived on the scene.”

    But what are you talking about? YaReally hasn’t even commented on this post and I don’t think anybody is as concerned with what he has to say as you are.

  • Jeremy

    @avd

    Did that post make it into the right browser tab?

  • avd

    @saint of kille
    “YaReally hasn’t even commented on this post and I don’t think anybody is as concerned with what he has to say as you are.”

    Correct, he’s in hiding. His positions are damaging to noobs.

  • avd

    Sincere Q: What do you guys want? To get at females, or to enjoy them?

  • Jeremy

    I want to understand where you’re coming from first, avd. You’re comments are hard for me to decipher.

  • Matthew King

    freebird wrote:

    You have no pimp hand, you ARE emasculated, your pontifications mere entertainment lacking substance.

    You’ve identified a real tendency but you overinterpret it. The point is to collectively figure out a way to regain the cultural “pimp hand,” and those are the strategy sessions that will ultimately be the most useful; rather than the endless re-presentations about how to fit beer-goggles over an already drunk co-ed that will get a chump’s dick wet for one night.

    So, yeah, it should take a single lesson to get most men from zero to sixty, but the reality is that it takes a lot of patient explaining before anything sinks in. That’s because the culture prevails in their souls: we were born into the feminist lie. Whenever the chumps are not here, they are bombarded by a non-stop assault of fantastical female fussiness. And the point is to get all the brothers off the sinking ship of our faggotized culture, the least omega first.

    Now, I understand it’s cool not to care about those losers because that’s how you prove what a winner you are online. But naturals and quick-studies have no need for this kind of treatment, so the conversation will not be tailored to their wants or needs.

    At the same time, you are absolutely right. Too much omega rushing into reform at once risks turning the atmosphere omega without anyone noticing, and they appropriate the words (“alpha,” “PUA,” “game”) without the meaning behind them. The chumps gather and support each other in their omegatude by calling it alpha. The stink of loser is hard to scrub clean. It’s easier for the mass of initiates to redefine terms according to old habits than it is to make the full transformation individually and conform to principles that seem beyond them. Metanoia is hard.

    Matt

  • Marellus

    Suzan tells women to get into relationships.

    The manosphere tells men to get out of them.

    Who will win ?

  • Matthew King

    Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! He who sat upon it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.

    His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems; and he has a name inscribed which no one knows but himself.

    He is clad in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.

    And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, followed him on white horses.

    From his mouth issues a sharp sword with which to smite the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron; he will tread the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.

    On his robe and on his thigh he has a name inscribed, King of kings and Lord of lords.

    Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly in midheaven, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great.”

    And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who sits upon the horse and against his army.

    And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulphur.

    — from the climax of Revelation, 19:11-20

  • Matthew King

    Marellus wrote:

    Susan tells women to get into relationships. The manosphere tells men to get out of them. Who will win?

    Men always win. Given a fair fight. Women want men to win. At present it is not a fair fight. Our task therefore is to lure the enemy out from their spider holes and ivory towers and into open warfare, where Rome prevails.

    Susan? As in Susan Walsh? She is a footnote to a footnote to a segment of history about an era that is already receding, and rapidly. She could have demonstrated her quality but, at bottom, she possesses (is possessed by) a vagina.

    Women make love, men make war. When men decide to make war over love, it will be a short conflict, if there is indeed a conflict at all, and not mass-surrender from the distaff side. After all, women aren’t just experts in surrender, they are physically built for it and to find ecstasy in their submission.

    Matt

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