Wife Porn

I once had an interesting conversation with a married friend/counsel of mine that sort of opened my eyes to something that’s becoming an interesting trend which prompted me to come up with an experiment for the married and formerly married men who read my blog. It should also be educational to see how single guys (or those in LTRs) view this too. So rather than go into complete detail right now about the subject of our conversation allow me present two scenarios for your consideration. Bear in mind these are sexual fantasies and you could easily add details to them that might invalidate them, but the illustrations and guy’s (as well as women’s I suppose) perceptions are what I’m curious about:

Scenario #1
Suppose for the moment you are single, if you’re married now, with no attachments. You and a wing go off to a party to do a little cooperative sarging where you know a good number of attractive women will be present. After an hour and a half you successfully kiss close an HB9 and she’s definitely given you enough IOIs and AIs to know she’d be a great same night lay – the stuff of dreams. Picking up on this, you propose heading back to your place for whatever made up reason you can think of on the spot. On the drive to your place she is feeling you up and all but fucking you right in the car, maybe even giving you head a bit before you arrive. Once there, she strips down to a small bit of lingerie and proceeds to grind and tease you. She then removes everything but her stockings and heels, climbs on top of you and has her way with you, finishing you off with a mind blowing hummer.

Scenario #2
You’ve been married to your wife for five years (or longer). While at work she calls you one afternoon and tells you that if you’ll come home early she’ll “make it worth your while.” You happen to be freed up enough at work to take off early and head home. When you arrive, your wife is standing in the kitchen making spaghetti in nothing but a g-string, babydoll and a sexy bra. She has a bottle of wine and a couple of glasses set to one side and informs you that the children are at her mother’s for the evening. She’s still easily an HB 7 (closer to an 8 in the nightie) inspite of having kids, and her ass looks fantastic in the g-string. After a glass of wine she tells you how hard you’ve been working lately and it’s time she shows you some ‘appreciation’. She begins to give you head in the kitchen, after which you go down on her on the counter top. You take her standing up and she frantically claws your back before she drags you to the livingroom where she rides you in a frenzy rivaled only by the sex you remember having with her when you were both single .

I apologize for the graphics, but it’s necessary. If you’re a married or divorced guy consider these questions:

  1. Which scenario do you think is more likely to be actualized and why? In other word’s which is the more likely scenario to come true in reality?
  2. Which scenario would you rather participate in in reality? Why?
  3. Which scenario do you think would make for the best sexual experience?
  4. Has a woman ever seduced YOU whether single or by your wife?

Single guys can respond to this too since it’ll show a depth of experience, but married/divorced guys, think hard about this. You’re realtively anonymous here so be honest.

 

Now then, the reason I started this experiment is because the friend I had prompt me to this gave me a link to one of the fasest growing sexual fetish (if that’s the proper term) porn sites and this is, believe it or not, married sex. No, I don’t mean cheating housewives (that’s been done to death), but actual married sex between couples that is in fact well done and pretty hot. I wont post the link, but you can Google Housewives 1 on 1 or the like and see what I mean. In each fantasy scenario the husband’s wife (all porn star hot) seduces him with a combination of lingerie, dirty talking, and at least a pretty convincing display of actual desire/lust/passion for having sex with him. After watching the trailer videos I couldn’t help but think that the reason for this becoming such a popular genre of porn is due to an unbelievability that in all rights should be believable, if not desirable. How pathetic a statement is it to think that within all of our over eroticizing society that we should come full circle and have made hot, married sex into sexual niche fantasy?

The reason I proposed the two scenarios was to llustrate just the unbelievabilty of the 2nd one in comparison to the first. The 2nd one being a rough description of one of the vignettes from a particular ‘married fantasy sex’ site. I have a pretty good sex life with my wife, who still looks like a fitness model even after our daughter’s birth. That said I can tell you that nothing would shock me more than to have my wife even remotely concoct a sexual tryst with me like these. It’s not that I have a problem with our sex life, far from it, but it’s that it would rarely cross a married woman’s mind that she would want to seduce her husband.

The default female reponse to this is that it’s the burdens of married/family life that interfere with acting something like this out, or that the man should shoulder the responsibility for keeping married sex passionate. I have to then go back to my conversations with virtually every married man I’ve ever counseled telling me that they are almost universally the initiators of sex with their spouses and this is a point of contention between them. Their initiating – by way of doing all of the romantic preparations their wives tell them is necessary for them to “get in the mood”  – then ends up becoming the catalyst for one more form of stress, since it then conditions her to think that the very behaviors she described as being conducive to her becoming aroused are now associated with obligations of sex. Essentially negotiating sex by proxy. We have to remember that women communicate covertly and when she feels the need to overtly tell a man (what she thinks he ought to know anyway) how to turn her on, sex becomes predictable and routine; the opposite of spontaneous and exciting.

That as an aside, the intent of this was to illustrate that the reason this form of sexual fetish is exciting for married men in particular is that it is out of the ordinary and unbelievable, yet painfully ddesirable. These are hot fantasies because they seem to feel right, yet would rarely (if ever) cross a married woman’s mind that she would have a desire to seduce her husband and make special preparations to do so unexpectedly.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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I’ve had both scenarios. Not down to the T but what I mean is I’ve experienced the sex with a new person thrill and the really steamy, lusty LTR sex. My preference is that it’s exciting to seduce and flirt with someone you don’t know and see yet another naked girl (which doesn’t get old). As for the rise in married sex in the porn market, I imagine it has to do with more couples wanting to watch porn together that haven’t really discussed porn before. Maybe they both have their preferences but are too shy to say in front… Read more »

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I would say that the ‘married fantasy’ is even a fantasy for those co-cohabitating. Really any situation where the woman has an overwhelming amount of safety built into the relationship that isn’t countered by, or controlled by, the man in the relationship. I know the last relationship I had, 3.5 years long with 2 of those living together, follows the same script as that. I unknowingly lost control of the relationship despite being the sole earner. Sex dried up, when it did happen felt like an ‘obligation’ on her part, and she made me jump through a shit ton of… Read more »

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Hmm… need to send this to the wife. Not that she would act on it in any meaningful manner, but still…

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Somehow, the left woman is more arousing than the right one. The problem of safety in marriage leading to less sex can be countered by giving MEN an easy way of divorce.

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To quote Athol Kay, the number one male fantasy is very simple….that “she is into it”. As men, we want her to like and enjoy everything we are doing to her, with her screaming, flipping her head back, pulling hair and squirting…..only to end with her telling us that was the best she had ever had. (Basically the way you described the female in both scenarios) For me, I have never liked mainstream porn. If I watch it, it is vintage or amateur,.. because I want what I’m watching to seem more real. That is why married sex porn is… Read more »

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See Athol’s success stories (marriedmansexlife.com) per Leap of Beta above.

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Which scenario do you think is more likely to be actualized and why? In other word’s which is the more likely scenario to come true in reality? #1 happens more often. I think this is due to the ‘new’ factor. When relationships (even for a night) are fresh, sex is fraught with tension as per your previous writing. Tension that unleashes that kind of passion is less likely to exist after 5 years, children etc. While it’s not impossible as per Athol Kay, it’s less likely. Which scenario would you rather participate in in reality? Why? Hands down wife being… Read more »

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Most women are so used to NOT having to take any sexual initiative that they probably see little reason to do something like this. Another reason why this probably doesn’t happen very often is that women simply cannot understand the kind of pleasure something like this can bring to a man. I have never been married but I have been in plenty of LTR’s and I can’t ever remember having a chick go out of her way to seduce me. There was one time where my gf was hinting that she was horny and I was ignoring her so she… Read more »

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I guess I don’t understand and usually this blog is a real eye-opener for me. My wife does the second scenario all the time, even after many years together, and she looks better than ever. I read these manosphere blogs because we’ve had plenty of other problems so I don’t pretend we’re perfect or that I’m living in some sort of marital paradise. But I just don’t get why a man would get married or stay married if that married-woman-porn-seduction scenario wasn’t happening fairly regularly.

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Because its a rare woman that believes any relationship – dating, LTR, married, whatever – is her responsibility to fix or play an equal role in.

So, we’re all looking for that rare woman (except you Stephen, already having one). How do you like those odds?

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Yeah, I understand. I didn’t mean to come across as looking down on anyone. I just didn’t know how rare that is, if it’s really that rare. We met really young so I’ve never even considered the first scenario, whereas the second happens all the time for me. I mistakenly thought that scenario one would be the rare one and the other would happen for most married men at least now and then. Once again, we’ve had plenty of problems lately and I don’t pretend to have it all figured out.

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Haha, no worries. You didn’t come down on anyone. Most people just have the sex problems ONTOP of all the rest.

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1.Which scenario do you think is more likely to be actualized and why? In other word’s which is the more likely scenario to come true in reality?

Scenario 1, hands down.

2.Which scenario would you rather participate in in reality? Why?

Scenario 2, because it has potential for repetition.

3.Which scenario do you think would make for the best sexual experience?

Scenario 1.

4.Has a woman ever seduced YOU whether single or by your wife?

Yes to both.

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I’ll have to agree with Rollo, as usual. Scenario #1 seems somewhat realistic, #2 isn’t. There’s no way a wife with kids that are under 5 will come up with such a surprise, much less implement it. Mothers in that situation are normally overworked, irritated and stressed out. The very last thing on their minds is the idea that they have to sexually seduce their husbands for whatever reason. Grandmothers who’d look after the kids all night so that their daughters can enjoy lengthy, steamy marital sex are also pretty rare. I should add that a wife who actually wants… Read more »

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As a younger reader, I have to put in my two cents. I’ve had both happen (though have not been married, but at the time may as well have been). I say both, because in one LTR, living together for 2 years, the best sexual experiences I had were when she initiated things, but not necessarily planned them out, but I guess when she went out of her willingly without me initiating it in a way to fulfill a fantasy of mine. Pretty much a dead on description of what she did once, just it was frilly porn star style… Read more »

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Shit I keep confusing roissy with rollo. I’m just going to say moderator from now on. I go to these sites all in one burst and sometimes forget which one is which.

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And sorry for the length, I just went on a tangent, recalling things this post reminded me of. I should stay away from keyboards when I’m tired.

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Ian Ironwood mentioned that homemade porn made by couples accounts for over 50% of all porn viewing (thesexnerd.blogspot.com). And, it *is* about the woman being into it; I think especially as the viewer gets older and has had more experience with actual women it becomes more important. Personally, the videos I specifically can recollect the most involved girls that really did seem to be enjoying it and enjoyed pleasuring their man (not just *a* man or faking). Of course, scenario #2 *never* happens for most men yet they are continually bludgeoned about how to be more romantic and communicative with… Read more »

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A test……just e-mailed my GF the picture above, no subject, no text…..curious to see what the response will be. Will report back.

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Great post, I saved a relatives marriage using this formula, I basically told her that the masculine and feminine were like ying and yang (chicks dig esoterism) and that if she didn’t pick up her ying her husband would naturally become repulsed by her. She ended up losing 30 pounds and now accentuates her femininity.

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These are hot fantasies because they seem to feel right, yet would rarely (if ever) cross a married woman’s mind that she would have a desire to seduce her husband and make special preparations to do so unexpectedly.

It is a hard truth, that women neglect their husbands because he is now the only acceptable social target of her seduction skills.

With all other players disqualified and out of the game, she becomes like a well-fed cat merely examining sparrows outside.

Of course, she can act out her infidelity, but that’s a major game misconduct.

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I tend to think a part of the married-porn appeal is that its so private… sure we can see sluts and strippers, etc… but no one ever gets a look at the intimate marriage bed. As far as the married sex and who initiates… one way or another, the problem is that the woman does not make the man, nor his sexual advances, seem DESIRED. If we do not feel desired, we will be discontent. Our sexual prowess is VERY important and when we get minimized or even condescended to in that regard, it is a deep insult to our… Read more »

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FWIW, if you don’t mind the link, http://www.reddit.com/r/passionx has a good selection of “married” porn. Good for warming up your bedroom.

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I struggle with this, but since coming to the manosphere over a year ago have been making (and continue to make) strides.

This, while making many women’s head explode, rings very true.

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As a happily married dude, the author of a remedial seduction book, a red pill blog (y’all come on by) and a proud member of the porn industry, I feel uniquely qualified to discuss this subject. Wife porn is hot. There, I said it. With qualifiers, of course: the “good” wife porn is the stuff made in the heat of the moment, when honest excitement and lust combines with the familiarity of long acquaintance to produce a truly passionate response. It’s hot. Sometimes far hotter than commercial porn, or even non-involved amateurs. Why? Because with a married couple you have… Read more »

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It happens

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I have never experienced the first scenario. But awhile back, taking some of what I have learned at similar sites, I started telling (no, not just asking)my wife to put on lingerie before we start messing around. She now knows that wearing it or talking about wearing it is a turn on for me. Married for nearly 5 years, scenario is fairly frequent for me also. I don’t know if others are missing out because of a lack of foreplay or their partner… it is very common for us to make out for quite awhile even on nights where we… Read more »

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Scenario one requires effort (i.e. you’d have to have game). Scenario two does not (i.e. you wouldn’t need to game your wife). I think married or LTR guys would like to feel like they don’t have to seduce (coerce) their wives for once, which is why porn in the vein for scenario two must be so appealing. Both situations are novel in their own right, but for some guys, scenario two is even more improbable because of the realities of their marriage and all its responsibilities. Having watched a few moments of the wife porn that Rollo mentions above though,… Read more »

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I am not so sure what I have to offer this excellent commentary that has not been said by others, but as a married guy, I’ll jump in. 1. Which scenario do you think is more likely to be actualized and why? In other word’s which is the more likely scenario to come true in reality? Scenario One: the chick. Been there done that; especially with younger attractive women. Don’t even get me started on co-ed grad students. I believe the reason is that single women see a man they want – and play to their strengths (note: whether that… Read more »

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It’s sad that the “good wife tips” make some women so angry. If they only knew how happy those kinds of actions make us.

I can’t tell you how good I feel when I get home and my wife stops what she is doing, comes to me, looks up into my eyes, presses her chest against me and gives me kisses. That sets the mood for the evening.

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#1 The first situation is more likely to be realized because often the new girl has more to prove. Also, there is often more pent up sexual energy that needs to be released. My LTRs have all involved regular sex so some of that sexual urgency is not there. #2 I would rather participate in the second scenario because there is a depth to it that can not exist in the first scenario. Also, I have always enjoyed sex more as I get more familiar and comfortable with the woman. #3 I think the second scenario is more rewarding because… Read more »

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Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope I’m allowed to comment. I recognize the sacredness of a space where men talk man stuff, so I feel hesitant to comment. I found this post because I’ve had the keywords “married sex” on my google reader for years. One of my favorite topics. First of all, I have to say I thought I invented that fantasy! http://www.sensuouswife.com/blog/?p=840 Second, I have been feeling very rare and very lonely these days so hearing a gathering of men opine on how rare I am makes me feel good. Third, the reason I have felt so sad and… Read more »

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Single, never married, was in an LTR where I lived with the chica… 1.Which scenario do you think is more likely to be actualized and why? In other word’s which is the more likely scenario to come true in reality? Obviously the first one is much more likely to happen—and it’s incredibly rare itself—because part of what’s motivating a woman who’s into you but not your wife is threat posed by other women. Competition anxiety is still a factor. 2.Which scenario would you rather participate in in reality? Why? I’d rather have the second scenario because of what it says… Read more »

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I didn’t know bots got
married, so if you’re still
“waiting for a good man who has eyes to see me and invites me into the kind of long delicious story”
…Better not tell your husband.

Perhaps today’s hubby is fine with that, but the Real Men would shoot your ass – and Mr. Lothario.

Present company excepted, I’ve adopted the Leykis Model. Marriage is no longer a choice.

Look at all the sad sacks on The Spearhead; disgusting.
Now, I look at married sex-manual-spice-it-up methods as quaint. Like watching cripples play wheelchair basketball. I appreciate their determination – but don’t want to join the club.

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Only after he’s fucked you does a man really know you.

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I’ve been divorced 3 years. I fired my exhusband for adultery. I’m into faithfulness. My blog tells my story.

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About the picture illustrating the post, it’s the man’s job to ensure the woman wears a proper housewife uniform around the house.

If she keep putting on the trash, take it off her and cut it up with scissors in front of her.

And tell her what to wear.

My girl occasionally backslides and I ask her “go get me the scissors”. She knows it’s no bluff, so she changes.

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It’s common for the woman to approach sex through her romantic heart, and the man to approach sex through his lusty libido. The woman wants to kiss before sex, but the man has no mood to kiss unless he’s having sex.

It can be difficult to find that compromise when partners are at the extreme ends of this polarity. Just know that the gateway to many mens romance is through his dick. Not his lips.

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I’ve never had the 2nd scenario, where a live in partner makes a romantic production out of having sex. I think I’d be a bit insulted if she did, strangely. When I’m passionate and close with someone, the sex is frequent and it’s taken for granted that we’ll have it several times a day. All the seduction that would be needed is a brief comment of “fuck me”. The notion that I’d need extra attention to get aroused is somewhat insulting. And the girl will always be in sexy attire or naked if she’s in my house. That’s the default,… Read more »

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I should also say that the notion of seducing through “special” clothes and “special” dinner really puts me off, both ways. I expect a special meal every day. At least two – breakfast and dinner. But that’s not the offensive part. Connecting treating the woman well with a reward of sex is just plain bad training, and insulting to both the power of her libido and to my personal attraction. I want the woman to be in a constant state of arousal. Certainly not contingent on special treatment. Now I concede that may not be as practical and workable after… Read more »

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As a guy that reads game blogs STRICTLY for the purpose of starting an LTR with marriage as the end game, I’m glad you said this. We all want to enjoy women, but I’m willing to exchange massive amounts of poon for one woman who will seduce and be seduced. If you’re the right man, again see Athol’s site, and choose wisely it can be your reality.

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@sensuouswife I read your blogpost (letter to future husband) and your post on this thread, and while I respect the right for other posters to have their own opinion I have little objection to saying that the vast majority of posters on this site can’t appreciate the background, spiritual stance, and sincerity of your comments. Again, as a Christian man who reads blogs like these(they have tons of great insight into the woman’s psyche) strictly for knowledge of women to start an LTR that has marriage as the end game it’s good to know that women like you EXIST. I… Read more »

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You may have been tired, but I found your commentary refreshing

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Have a LT wife and my kid’s Mom. One in college. She still gets horny depending on her cycle. Kid’s means she has to be discrete. But I know without doubt when she want’s to get her freak on.

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Otherwise, She want’s to to be a Mom.

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Doesn’t suprise me a bit. Most Guy’s just want a roof over their heads. A good wife who takes care of stuff. Knows how to cook.

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Great in theory but try that with a chick in a western country. Even if she is down with the program as soon as she tells the sisterhood about something like this it will be the beginning of the end. “Girl, that’s emotional abuse!” “He’s a controlling asshole, you don’t need to put up with that.”

Western society is TOXIC and it is the reason why this problem exists. Dominance is good and necessary but when the trend is against you you can only push so far without experiencing a backlash.

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Cutting up her clothes works best if you have a domestic arrangement where you are the one paying for her clothes shopping expenses. But mostly it’s about holding your frame. Will the girl complain and freak out? Yes. If you are unapologetic about it and say you’d do it again if she wears frumpy clothes again, she’ll huff about it, sure. You don’t always get concessions to dominance with a happy smile on the girls face. But you’ll see for yourself the overall effect. You have to build up dominance step by step as you get your hooks into her.… Read more »

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And again, I don’t know how you can keep making comparisons when you are not familiar with living in another country. The sisterhood phenomenon exists everywhere – that’s a female thing. Everywhere the sisterhood advocates for more power to the woman, less to the man. And everywhere that is not a difficult obstacle to overcome. You just have to be more important to her than her friends. That is not that difficult to do. She should be hugely emotionally invested in you, and you should be the center of her entire world. She’ll do what you say over friends and… Read more »

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And you really misunderstand other cultures. There is no husband in SE Asia who would do as I say. This place is matriarchal. You’ll never hear of any man indigenous to here doing dominant actions like I advocate.

I’m not advocating for something that is culturally accepted at all.

This is a man-woman thing.

You have to be a man to pull it off. If you are, you can do it in any culture.

Are there any pimps in your country today?

Then you get my point.

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Honestly Chuck, if your attitude is that culture won’t allow you to be properly dominant, then your attitude is weak. Yes, there are cultural differences between places. That makes a strong man even more rare and even more valuable. Look at the strong men that exist in your country now. The pimps who get their girls to do anything on command. Maybe you think those are just fucked up girls, and real girls wouldn’t behave that way. He he. If so, pimps will tell you you’d be surprised the types of girls they turn. Look to the loverboys who keep… Read more »

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Once a man internalizes being a huge, overwhelming and central authority in his woman’s life, that is what happens.

I think you don’t understand that, Chuck. It’s an internal change. The woman eventually will feel that without you she is nothing. She’ll miss you if you are gone for even a few hours.

I’m talking about being the center of her being, and being comfortable and proficient in that managerial role.

If culture is affecting your ability to do that, it is only in that you can’t yet internalize that attitude.

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The Good Wife’s Guide is almost certainly a parody, as the included Snopes link indicates.

But, by the Aprons of Hestia is that list gold. The idea that the truth presented plainly is regarded as satire in our age tells us just how decadent we have become. It amuses me when people think our modern arrangement is not only tenable but inevitable and permanent! We will one day look back in awe at how spectacularly wrong we got women in our time, a perversion that is as far from her nature as matter is from antimatter.

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[…] According to Rollo Tomassi (hat tip: Vox Day), a new niche in porn has arisen, fantasizing about normal, married, heterosexual relations: one of the fasest growing sexual fetish (if that’s the proper term) porn sites and this is, believe it or not, married sex. No, I don’t mean cheating housewives (that’s been done to death), but actual married sex between couples that is in fact well done and pretty hot. I wont post the link, but you can Google Housewives 1 on 1 or the like and see what I mean. In each fantasy scenario the husband’s wife (all porn… Read more »

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I’m lucky. The wife tells me when she is horny. When she is PMS’ing I stay away. The kid’s also do. They want to go with Dad out to the ranch. She later apologizes for it. Man, we screwed the pooch in the Garden of Eden. Our bad for eating the apple. She also knows not to f*ck with me too much. She know’s I don’t do shit tests.

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“screwed the pooch” local saying that we f*cked up

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Had an interesting talk with a son of a coworker. Four rotations in Iraq and two in afgan. Do you know many combat vet’s? Their viewpoints tell me that they are pissed off.. These guy’s I would want at my back. But when they tell you the stories. Whow. They were trained to do what somebody told them needed to be done. As a Christian, I weep for their inside pain. I would never wish it on my kid’s.

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I didn’t say that women don’t understand discipline. They most definitely do and done properly it is the only way to keep them in line. What I am saying is that you can only take the dominance thing so far with western women because you aren’t dating only her, you are dating her family and friends as well. And they love nothing more than to tell her how she should and shouldn’t feel about stuff like this.

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You are full of great insight but unfortunately the game is different here. It is different from other cultures and it is different now than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Women Your advice is akin to that of the PUA’s who theorize that you can maintain a relationship with a high value woman indefinitely with game alone. Bullshit. Upper tier women know what their pussy is worth and they might allow you short term access to it if you say the right things, but at the end of the day they are looking to get the best deal… Read more »

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I agree that it’s important to be a man who is important, in all ways possible, to the girl. But I’m also get the feeling that you underestimate psychological dominance, overestimate cultural differences, and lack confidence in the power of leadership. It was just a month ago where you claimed that attraction to money was only because money increased confidence. Not the money itself. Now you are going to the other extreme, and saying that psychological dominance itself can’t be powerful without money. That’s all over the map, don’t you think? Money gives powers that confidence does not – it’s… Read more »

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And it’s a fair comment to remind me that I haven’t lived in the west in over a decade.

However you’ve NEVER lived here.

The similarities are beyond your experience.

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Still, that you are real does not negate my disdain for the pitfalls of marriage I stated. Romance is an ethereal event. How come it’s taken so long for you to find a substitute?

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lol to this whole exchange. Just lol

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I didn’t say that dominance cannot be powerful without money, I said that you need wealth/status/power to pull off stuff like that. It’s a completely different dynamic if you actually are buying the shit you destroy to try to make a point.

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i just find it funny that his ex-wife is named ilusion.

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At same night lays, its not likely to have complete dominance over the woman. She’s giving you her body, but not yet her soul. Completely dominating a woman is very sexually exciting. Looking at her eyes and seeing her surrending to your male dominance. Its not possible before at least two days. When you have a healthy LTR, in which you play fully your male role, i.e. dominate, you can have this. The best sex of my life was wiht an hb 6 that gave me her body and soul, not with the 8 and 9s that were “rationally” fucking… Read more »

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This is silly. I do this all the time for my Husband. Of course, I get to stay home and not work an EXTRA job. We also stick to a budget. This allows me not to be freaked out and exhausted all the time AND to have some money to keep myself up. Women, when freed to be a women, like to do this. Men, when freed to be a man, get to have this. You can bet your life, Grandma was doing this for Grandpa back in the day. No quickie divorces and both knew that what was best… Read more »

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Rollo you need to do a post on husband porn. There is never enough examples of how the man can inspire and motivate the behavior he wants in the woman, its always more about what he should do from a technical persepective. Please consider.

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Hey did you by any chance go to BRU? I currently go there and that description is spoootttt on (god damn heteronormativity).Any advice for a guy there right now? A freshman and I haven’t been able to get laid from a girl on campus once all year (i do all right with girls in my hometown).

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Oops I replied to the wrong post i meant to reply to Anony

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100% honesty here from a married guy. Which scenario do you think is more likely to be actualized and why? In other word’s which is the more likely scenario to come true in reality? The first (singles sex) scenario is generally more likely, because a woman’s agency with any man is sex. Which scenario would you rather participate in in reality? Why? Probably the married one, mostly because I began to sour on one night stands or first-night sex toward the end of my single life. They usually left me feeling a little bit sickened and with some regret. I… Read more »

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[…] few months ago Rollo put up a funny post about wife porn, but it was mainly the image that caught my eye. Needless to say it brought up some memories. […]

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[…] This is something I have been struggling with for a very long time.  I was very much a tomboy as a child and for many years refused to wear a dress or anything girly.  I viewed the line “You throw like a girl” as a personal challenge and learned to do many things in a very masculine way.  How I dressed was part of this.  I didn’t go so far as to only wear men’s clothes, but I was very much a jeans and t-shirt type girl, throwing in the occasional girl shirt and very occasionally a dress.  I… Read more »

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Followed your link from Dalrock’s blog. Great article and commentary. I need to spend a day going through your old stuff. Terrific stuff man.

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this question was on family feud: “ladies, how many times do you initiate sex with your husband in a year?”

the number one answer was…

NOT 30
NOT 20
NOT 10
NOT 5…

the #1 answer for women actually initiating sex with their husband was ONE TIME PER YEAR!

they expect you to keep it hot… it’s all on you. if you don’t do the work, you don’t get the prize. btw, you better not cheat or be affected by the young(er) women that are coming on to you, DAILY.

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“That said I can tell you that nothing would shock me more than to have my wife even remotely concoct a sexual tryst with me like these. ” At a wrestling tournement, lots of downtime tween matches. Thanks rugby, hadn’t read this. Here’s where rp kowledge/game assists both Mrs. And me. There’s moments she KNOWS she’s being gamed, doesn’t care and we public makout, weaselfuck, trash out the house when the kids are gone. All this amd more since I doubled down on RP. For Pete’s sake, she’ll say she doesn’t trust me, I’m warped then an hour later, hummer.… Read more »

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Rugby

The sexual sanity site looks interesting,one might see wife porn as sex therapy in one sense,but it may be like using cocaine for heroin withdrawl..Still not based in reality,reality and truth are the main goals…

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1. Scenario #1 is more likely. For #2, even if the desire is there, that’s a major project. A lot more effort and expense, at least for us. We don’t have free babysitters. For scenario #1, the effort on the woman’s part is a lot less. 2. Both. They are both hot. 3. I can’t really decide. 4. Yes to both. The desire for a wife to seduce her husband, that’s believable. But the preparations, not so believable. How much work does the wife have to put in to be considered seducing the husband? Simply saying something hot? A new… Read more »

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