The Fade Away

God do I love these girls.

I’ll just let the song do the work for me here, but I should point out that in girl-world, only women are allowed to be critical of other women when it comes to gender issues relating specifically to women. Whether it’s Garfunkle & Oats or Girl Writes What? only women are permitted to analyze and criticize the behaviors of the sisterhood.

Imagine the girl-world social repercussions of a man writing and singing this song from the male perspective.

We’ve been on a bunch of dates
I weigh debates that this creates
And hate that state of forced introspection
We traded wit, we swapped some spit,
You fingered me a little bit
But we never really had a connection

You did nothing wrong, I have no excuse
Just my intuition telling me we shouldn’t reproduce

I know I have to end it
But pretend to just suspend it
By contending that I’m busy all week
I let the foregone linger on
Text back with an emoticon
Withdraw from you by being oblique

Inside I know my tactics just delay it
But I’d do anything so I don’t have to say it

I’ll draw this out forever like it’s Vietnam
Then one day I’ll be gone like Bambi’s mom Awww

Cause there’s the right thing to do
Then there’s what I’m gonna do
There’s so much I should say
But instead… I do the fade away

Now I’m fading like chalk on a sidewalk
Or the polio virus after Jonas Salk
Like a Jewish guy at Arby’s on Yom Kippur
The Whig party post Millard Fillmore

The erection of a man on antidepressants
The cast of Diff’rent Strokes after adolescence
Reproductive rights below the Mason Dixon
Native Americans after the barter systems
Your thyroid gland after Hashimoto
The family in the Back to the Future photo
Yeah I fade away

We say that men are asshole who don’t communicate
We revel in our victimhood and amplify our hate
We find ways to be indignant like it’s a sport
Then dissect their malignance with the views we distort

The way men break up may be sloppy and terse
What they do is bad, but what we do is worse

We pretend to ourselves it’s the nice thing to do
To let you down gently by just not fucking telling you
And deep down we know it’s the worst way to play it
But we are what we have… huge pussies

And women are hypocrites
Especially ones in comedy bands
We see your faults but not our own
Then we wonder why we’re all alone

We fill you up with maybe’s, excuses and stalls
But like a baby in China… it’s better to have balls

Not the Good Wife type like Christine Baranski
So I’ll pull out and leave like I’m Roman Polanski

Cause there’s the right thing to do
Then there’s what I’m gonna do
There’s so much I should say
But instead… I do the fade away

Like Verbal Kint fading into Kaiser Soze
The rights in Arizona for a guy named Jose
Opportunities for a college grad
The love between your mom and dad
Gonna Peter out like a gay Cetera
Iranian relations since the Regan era
Black Nike sales after Heaven’s Gate
Summer Camp attendance at Penn State
The name Adolph after World War Two
Like Debbie Gibson’s pop career, Out of the Blue
Yeah I fade away

Cause I don’t wanna get to know you
I just want to blow you… off

51 comments

  1. “We find ways to be indignant like it’s a sport”

    Hilarious. I’m impressed to see this coming from women themselves.

  2. Great stuff on the whole, and these girls are funny. I hope they keep doing more. But you can’t help but notice, when reading the lyrics, that they are dripping with the same old feminist and leftist undertones. The same old anti-white-man sentiment, just cloaked in self-effacing snark. With the sorry state of affairs, I guess that’s the best we can hope for coming from women – a dash of awareness in their sea of blue pill mythos.

  3. “You fingered me a little bit, But we never really had a connection” = I’m a big slut.

    “There’s so much I should say But instead… I do the fade away” = why is there “so much” to say? Does she feel she needs to explain all the guys faults to him in detail? Why not just keep it short and simple, and say it?

    “Reproductive rights below the Mason Dixon” = reframing lack of state-funded abortion on demand as some sort of archaic “lack of reproductive rights”.

    “Native Americans after the barter systems” = can’t expect women to understand economics, but jeez. The noble savage myth again? Yes let’s go back to barter so we can all live in huts, drink mud, and die at 40.

    “But like a baby in China… it’s better to have balls” = yes, better to be a complete slave to the communist machine, having no voice or choice in your own life, rather than to be killed at birth. I’d say the options are about equal.

    “The rights in Arizona for a guy named Jose” = the rights in AZ for a guy named Jose are exactly the same as they are for a guy named Kevin. Unless Jose illegally broke into the country and tried to leech from our resources without contributing. In that case, what are these “rights” you speak of?!

    “The love between your mom and dad” = The cynical carousel slut assumes that all long-term love must be a bitter lie.

    “Iranian relations since the Regan era” = implying that Iran/Contra fucked us up and lead to our current tensions, rather than blaming the rise of radical islam.

    Maybe I’m ‘reading too much into it’ as they would say. I doubt it. I just find it curious and amazing that in a short song which is supposed to be about women’s failings, they managed to ram in no fewer than EIGHT left-wing, feminist, or anti-white talking points!

    Propaganda is getting smoother and smoother. They must be getting scared.

  4. In an interview with Charlie Rose, Stephen Colbert said this about comedians, “I know something about the politics of comedians, they’re iconoclast and anti-status quo”

    So its not too surprising that these two have fairly left-wing views. In any case, I think you’re taking it too seriously, and being indignant like its a sport lol.

  5. “…the politics of comedians…” …and actors, and writers, and producers, and singers, and spokesmodels, and news anchors, and…anyone else that the kosher machine allows us to see, right? Hmm, why do you think it is that every single “artist” that is promoted with money behind them is a cultural marxist? hmmmmmmmmmmm.

  6. This is gold:

    We say that men are asshole who don’t communicate
    We revel in our victimhood and amplify our hate
    We find ways to be indignant like it’s a sport
    Then dissect their malignance with the views we distort

  7. @Bogart
    Oh, so you’re one of those ‘Jews are plotting to take over the world with Marxist propaganda’ types. Figures…

  8. nice strawman. so far you haven’t addressed a single point of fact. rare for a red pill reader. perhaps you’re a visitor?

  9. anyway I won’t address this thread again so save any retort. blog owners tend to get real nervous and censor-happy when “certain” subjects come up, no matter how red pill they say they are. I respect our esteemed host too much to create further discomfort here.

  10. Bogart, you’re missing their snark. They’re not actually serious about much of anything. They’re not making political commentary about how it’s better to have balls in China or whatever, they’re making silly random statements. Cut these girls some slack. They’re funny and scathingly accurate.

  11. yeah @bogart, I thought your first post was an ironic slab of monologue. Disappointing that you typed the whole thing out without a hint of irony.
    Sometimes, (just sometimes) song writers throw any vaguely relevant line in a song as long as it rhymes.
    At the risk of sounding like I’m white-knighting Garfunkle and Oats, I doubt they’d go to the lengths of writing a cutting song about female dating morals while folding in subversive left wing feminist points in the same song. I think [guess/assume] they’d just write two songs about each subject separately (it’s not like YouTube is going to run out of ‘slots’)

    Back to the video. I’ve given women the ‘fade’ before. I think this tactic is used by both genders when the instigator of the ‘fade’ believes they are at least one or two notches up the SMV than the ‘fade’ recipient.

  12. Bogart,

    You are 100% right. This video is loaded with Leftist sentiments. These comedians are left-liberal women who are making some fun of feminism. Leftists do this sometimes. But they will NEVER reject leftism in its entirety.

    Lastly, you will find that most Manosphere people DO NOT UNDERSTAND the role of the Left in creating today’s warped sexual market. Even Rollo doesn’t. Christianity isn’t the dominant religion in America. EGALITARIANISM is and the Left has made it a secular civic religion THAT NO ONE CAN CHALLENGE. That means that black dysfunction, feminism, the slut culture, the welfare state, open immigration, the evil of Islam, the foolishness of allowing Muslims in Western nations, the growing Hispanization of America, etc.. All of that can not be questioned. That is the power the Left has and about 95% of the Manosphere still doesn’t get it. They focus exclusively on feminism and Game. Myopia to say the least.

    Ignore the negative comments you got here. You get it.

  13. Good Find.
    @all political guys
    “But like a baby in China… it’s better to have balls”
    They are referring to the traditional preference for male child at birth in places like china. The parents procreate until they get a boy and if after a couple of kids if they dont get a boy any/all of the following may happen:
    1)the girl child may be killed
    2)The mother may be banished.
    Because complex traditions concerning dowry ,honor and shit.
    Again these are extreme circumstances. This shit doesn’t happen anymore.

  14. Garfunkel & Oates have a very interesting two hour interview on Kevin Pollak’s chat show. You can find it on youtube.

  15. “BTW, the blond is in the process of hitting the wall.”

    With obesity blowing up being thin in the US mitigates the wall quite effectively. The blonde is going to still be desired for a long time.

    The man with one eye in the land of the blind is king.

  16. Great social commentary and cringe-worthy because it’s so spot-on.

    But the follow up to this spoof would be why she can shake the memory of the aloof alpha guy who fucked her and disappeared.

  17. Dr. Illusion,

    Excellent blog post. I agree entirely and wish there would be a MASSIVE uprising of similarly minded white males.

    But all of what you write is due to 1) Post Modern philosophy and 2) the Progressive/Marxist/Leftist political/cultural movement which has infected most of the Conservative movement and the “right”.

    It is the Left that has brought this upon us. And it is the Left that needs to be destroyed to save the West. I fear that won’t happen until after the fall. I almost wish for the fall and the ensuing chaos to see the reactions from Western Women. To see reality hit them stark in the face as they get murdered and gang raped in bulk, and their charismatic Alpha males are no where in sight to defend them.

    Yes, that is a very dark thought. Sometimes that’s just where I hang out.

  18. “You fingered me a little bit, But we never really had a connection” = I’m a big slut.

    “There’s so much I should say But instead… I do the fade away” = why is there “so much” to say? Does she feel she needs to explain all the guys faults to him in detail? Why not just keep it short and simple, and say it?

    “Reproductive rights below the Mason Dixon” = reframing lack of state-funded abortion on demand as some sort of archaic “lack of reproductive rights”.

    “Native Americans after the barter systems” = can’t expect women to understand economics, but jeez. The noble savage myth again? Yes let’s go back to barter so we can all live in huts, drink mud, and die at 40.

    “But like a baby in China… it’s better to have balls” = yes, better to be a complete slave to the communist machine, having no voice or choice in your own life, rather than to be killed at birth. I’d say the options are about equal.

    “The rights in Arizona for a guy named Jose” = the rights in AZ for a guy named Jose are exactly the same as they are for a guy named Kevin. Unless Jose illegally broke into the country and tried to leech from our resources without contributing. In that case, what are these “rights” you speak of?!

    “The love between your mom and dad” = The cynical carousel slut assumes that all long-term love must be a bitter lie.

    “Iranian relations since the Regan era” = implying that Iran/Contra fucked us up and lead to our current tensions, rather than blaming the rise of radical islam.

    Maybe I’m ‘reading too much into it’ as they would say. I doubt it. I just find it curious and amazing that in a short song which is supposed to be about women’s failings, they managed to ram in no fewer than EIGHT left-wing, feminist, or anti-white talking points!

    Propaganda is getting smoother and smoother. They must be getting scared.”
    ****************************************
    You taking the lyrics of this song seriously is EXACTLY the kind of response they want from men. Are you really that two dimensional you can’t see snark and sarcasm? These were all examples of a fade away. Some are funny, some are trying too hard to sound smart, and exactly NONE of them are to be taken literally. They are a comedy band, real bands don’t get to sing lyrics like this. WTF, dude, is the male IQ really this low?

  19. “With obesity blowing up being thin in the US mitigates the wall quite effectively. The blonde is going to still be desired for a long time.”

    No kidding…the wall will make women slowly unattractive to men, but lard will trump age at any point in a woman’s life.

  20. The video is funny and it works because it’s true. However, having said that, most women aren’t going to watch this video and stop and think about how they have done “The Fade Away” and stop doing it. It’s comfortably funny. Women are going to watch it with their friends and they will all have a good laugh about how they have done the same thing and stories will be told over wine. Then they will go out and do it again. Some may even have a bit of guilt about it but will still do it again. Most will do it without guilt and have a good laugh in thinking about this video and how well they relate to it.

    Men couldn’t get away with a video like this because it would not be comfortably funny and women couldn’t easily laugh along with it.

  21. ‘Men couldn’t get away with a video like this because it would not be comfortably funny and women couldn’t easily laugh along with it.’

    Lol. I’m giddy about the potential of a comedic song called ‘The Pump N’ Dump’.

  22. Possibly one of the worst things that could happen to most of the readers of this blog would be to go to the Porsche dealer to try to lease a 911 Carrera Turbo Cabriolet and actually get approved for the lease. Then you would have this $1400 a month payment coupled with $500 a month for insurance and then also these quarterly visits to the Porsche dealer for inspections, check-ups to keep the warranty intact, each visit hitting you up for another $500 or more.

    So you would have this “thing”. It is beautiful. You are proud of it. Every now and then you get to use it as it is designed. But it will suck the life out of you. The money it would cost you would be a drain on your present and on your future. There are so many more things that the money could be spent on that would actually give you more pleasure than having that car. And the lack of pressure of not having to raise the cash is a form of happiness unto itself. And then at the end of your lease, after you have sucked it up and forked over all this cash, you have nothing to show for it.

    The best thing that could happen to you is that finance manager at the dealership takes your application and then never calls you back or is always busy when you called until you gave up on it.

    You could say the say thing about having a woman that has issues in HER determination of your sexual market value relative to how she views hers. You are in for Shit City if you actually start a relationship with her.

    So when you get flaked on, as per the subject of this post, The Fade Away, she is doing you a fucking favor. Actually I do the same thing, I fade away. I feel that Silence is Golden. Let them invent whatever reason that I stopped calling that lets them deal with it. I was a bastard. OK. Aliens abducted me. Fine. I just couldn’t handle a strong and independent woman. Whatever. And if you get “Faded Away” you can do exactly the same thing. Invent whatever reason you want to allow you deal with it.

    But better to accept that something good just happened to you. A gift of from God. And you really shouldn’t even let it get that far before realizing and acting.

    Rollo talks of Direct and Covert forms of communication. Men normally communicate directly. Women communicate covertly. When she flakes, delays, makes excuses, she is telling you everything you need to hear. You just have to listen to what she says and take the appropriate action which is to BOLT like Usain Bolt running a 9.73. Slip out the back, Jack, Make a new plan, Stan. Next her. You probably just got “nexted”, you just haven’t gotten the notice in the mail yet. But rather than waiting around like a sap sucker, you can get out and keep your self-respect in tact.

    So what she is saying if she defers, delays, flakes is that she doesn’t think your SMV is up there where she wants it.

    I had come to this site after developing some fairly hard and fast rules about this exact subject. Before hearing about the Three Date Rule, I had come to that exact conclusion. And also some others. Mine was one week, three dates. If she took longer than a week, Next. If three consecutive nights passed and I had not physically seen her, Next. In 90% of my important relationships, including my ex-wife, the woman fucked me on the first night. 90%!!! 9% fucked me on the second. So 99% of the important relationships that I ever had, the woman fucked me on the first or second date. Because she was iin to me. Get it? When they like you, they fuck you. When they don’t like you, they don’t fuck you. Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. Never listen to a bitch. If one past , and certainly two, then they jerked me around and nothing went anywhere. I just chased my tail like a fool.

    Rollo explained it with his post “The Good Girl”. This is 2012. There aren’t a lot of woman carrying around religious restrictions that keep them from acting on Genuine Attraction. No matter who she is, when the “man” comes along, she fucks him. She fucks him because she is so attracted that she was compelled to fuck him. Or she fucks him to get a foot in the door. So I came up with some probabilities. If she doesn’t fuck on the first date then you are 80% probable that this isn’t going anywhere. If after the second, you are 95% and after the third 99%. And I add, if after a week or if three nights went by where she hasn’t tried to do what it took to be with you to get it on, then she wasn’t that into you. If she was Genuinely Attracted to you then she would have fucked you. She would have found a way. There are those women that want to make you wait to check your intentions, but fuck that. It’s not on her terms any fucking more. Put it on your terms. If she liked you then she would have no issue in “getting her ass in the grass” as the Vietnam Marines used to say, about putting some “skin” in the game, and making an investment or a commitment to you and not jerking your ass around.

    If you don’t get fucked on the first date, then you need to start approaching other women. I would mentally start preparing myself to jettison this bitch. I don’t have any issues about jacking the girl up about her commitment to the situation and not making an investment in the relationship. There has been post after post about how women will play you until they have fucked you, then afterwards when they have irons in the fire, horses in the race, money on the table, then they become something entirely different. They stop being bitches and start being girlfriends. If she ain’t fucking you then she’s screwing you. If that’s a harsh viewpoint, tough shit. It’s real. And it’s based on real observations of women and life.

    So this is where the flake or the Fade Away is actually doing you a favor. If she flakes, then your SMV isn’t up there where she wants it to be. Listen to what she is covertly saying to you. Maybe she drags it out and makes you wait to see if some flicker of attraction occurs or she’s waiting to see if a better option comes along. Rollo says “She is evaluating her hypergamistic options”. Fuck that. If you read the previous post on “Date Guarding” and you see how the woman begins to resent and tear apart her man when she doesn’t think his SMV is up to snuff when she begins to go into the fertility phase. So if you get flaked then you just got done a fucking favor. You just skipped out on a whole bunch of bullshit. And the next time you get flaked then you need to look at it like “Thank you, fucking Jesus”. You just dodged a bullet. You just got turned down on Porsche lease.

    Roosh had a post where he said go for the kiss even if you are not reading signs that you should. He said he often had sex with women that it didn’t appear that she was into it before he tried to escalate. So I say you almost have to escalate so you know. Don’t be timid about it. Boys kiss girls. Boys make passes at girls. It’s expected. So if she rejects your pass then you know and you just stepped into the realm that there is a strong chance that this is going nowhere and her appreciation of your SMV isn’t where it should be. If it was, then she would have fucked you. And you need to know that. That “Good Girl Waits” myth is a fucking lie.

    OK, some people will say “I waited until my fifth date and we were together forever”. Fine. Game and Red Pill are a lot of things to a lot of people To me, it is defensive, a sexual mating strategy that gives you your best shot at succeeding and not sticking a gun into your mouth someday, of not being miserable, of not being dejected, of not being forced into a relationship because you haven’t cultivated the options available to you. And not being afraid to leave because you stupidly think “She’s the One” or that you are afraid to be alone.

    It is my opinion that as women become more and more financially independent then the short term attraction strategy is going to become more predominate in her selection of sexual partners than long term provisioning. So if she doesn’t fuck you on the first or second date then you are relegated into long term provisioning possibility status and the “Mate Guarding” post shows exactly how that is not the place to be. And you need to get the fuck out of there. Now. You need to get where you are genuinely appreciated and more importantly, genuinely desired.

    Also, it has been noted about the viability of being aware of her menstruation cycle for multiple reasons. During fertility she is more DTF. You also need to know when you could be in danger of impregnating her and trapping yourself. Now, you have one more fucking reason. If she heads into the fertility phase and she starts to fuck with you, then that is another form of covert communication. Again she is telling you that your SMV isn’t up there in her appreciation. And again you need to Next that bitch and get the fuck out of Dodge. ‘Cause there is trouble brewing on the horizon. Red Sky in the morning, sailor’s warning. You can play all the Athol Kay games you want and it may work or it may not. But if you Next that bitch, that works 100% of the time.

    Any reader of this blog should know, should believe, should internalize, “THERE IS NO ‘ONE'”. There are many.. One is good as the next. If the next one isn’t as good as this one, then the one after that will be better. Under the hood they are all the same. Learn to leave, leave, and leave early. I have said this before. I am 57 years old. I had three of the most powerful relationships I ever had AFTER I WAS 50. After a whole shitload of women I had thought were “The One” including my wife, I had three relationships that I would push my ex-wife out of the way to get to those women, literally shove her ass to the ground. There is no ‘one’. There will be many. The best part of a relationship is the first 90 days. Spent more time being in those first 90 days and you will end up a wealthier, happier, more content man. Next those bitches. Next often, next early. I have never regreted prematurely ending a relationship based on a gut feeling. I have regreted sticking around for Shit City. If you think you might be missing something, you’re not. If you do stick around for a woman that vacillates, hesitates, drags outs or one that treats you like shit then you’re missing out on the Next one that will answer your call with “Hi, baby I was just thinking about how I want to suck your dick like it was the last Popscicle on earth.” Good relationships, at least good in the sense that the man thinks it is good, are like a sprint. They blast out of the blocks and haul ass. Shitty ones, ones that go nowhere, never start fast and hot. If you are wondering, questioning, about whether the girl likes you, she doesn’t. Accept it and get on with it. The next one might.

    In a profile on Millionaire Match, a woman said “The wise woman listens but doesn’t believe, kisses but doesn’t love, leaves before she is left”. I would say the same thing about the Red Pill Wise man.

    If you didn’t read the last four posts of Rollo’s blog, be fucking sure you do.

    Also, like Dalrock, I’m taking a break from these men’s blogs. I get too pissed off. Every fucking day I see something in one of the major blogs that makes me think “Fucking bitches!!!”. See you in a while.

    [Some relevant links:
    The Medium is the Message
    Wait for it?
    Three Strikes]

  23. “I have never regreted prematurely ending a relationship based on a gut feeling. I have regreted sticking around for Shit City.”

    I’d advise guys who end up in relationships immediately out of college to pay close attention to this. And I say this to this demographic specifically because i’ve seen the following scenario play out in my own life and my friends lives specifically:

    I had a good time in college, stroked some broads, had fun. Started working, met a girl. She was fresh out of college too and came on fast with the sex then wanted a relationship. There were red flags right from the start that I was actively aware of but because I lived in a rather slow area and somewhat felt that I should try “slowing down” now that I was no longer in college (Note boys: don’t ever slow down), I attempted a relationship with her. Big mistake. All my concerns about her came to fruition. Had I listened to my gut, I would’ve saved myself alot of anguish.

    Trusting your gut as a man is so imperative. Oddly enough, the manosphere has led me to realize how “red pill” i have been throughout my life naturally, but since I didn’t know anyone who shared my sentiments I’d give women the benefit of the doubt and go against my gut much to my dismay. People use to tell me that my way of thinking was “wrong” with respect to gender dynamics (when I’d actually open up honestly about it). But over the years I’ve had an epiphany. There are two types of wrong. There is wrong in the sense that it’s logically inaccurate, and then there’s the “wrong” those people spoke to me of. That “wrong” simply means it doesn’t conform to what everyone else is doing or suppose to think. So listen to your gut, it will tell you what’s wrong in the logical sense much better than what the rest of the world will tell you is wrong.

  24. Also with regard to girls whom are immediately out of college themselves, here’s my warning: Even the former college skanks will all immediately try to get into a relationship around that time. But before you know it, if you try to be that guy and overlook their red flags, they’ll be back to skanking it up in no time. I think Fly Fresh and Young said it best: You’ll just be the pivot guy from Girls Gone Wild (college) to Sex and the City (yuppie)

  25. This is a very helpful video. I was getting hung up on a girl who was being aloof, then I watched this and remembered that girls don’t flake on guys that they like. Furthermore, almost no girl has the balls to let you down firmly unless you’ve done something really bad.

    The key lyric here is “You did nothing wrong. I have no excuse.” We can’t expect women to follow the rules that betas want them to.

  26. Hehe, a timely post there, Rollo, as this exact thing was served rather fresh lately with absolutely everything in this verse:

    I know I have to end it
    But pretend to just suspend it
    By contending that I’m busy all week
    I let the foregone linger on
    Text back with an emoticon
    Withdraw from you by being oblique

    I guess there is a flake (text msg) rulebook by the God of Biomechanics out there. But as she wasn’t even on the radar a week earlier and not an inordinate amount invested, not much wasted either… A vaguely laid-back, obliquely DHV-ing text reply and — we’ve faded away.

    At first these comments began to resemble a political debate, but Stingray and inimitable (and greatly to-be-missed) Mark Minter put it firmly on the track:

    Women are going to watch it with their friends and they will all have a good laugh about how they have done the same thing and stories will be told over wine.

    “Ohmigod, it was soo creepy, girls!”

    Then they will go out and do it again. Some may even have a bit of guilt about it but will still do it again. Most will do it without guilt and have a good laugh in thinking about this video and how well they relate to it.

    Exactly. They will do it because it is in their interest (and genetic programming) to continue doing it and hamstering it away with rationalisations. And a couple of girls singing about it feels so much more comfortable in an “us-vs-them” sense than two men doing the same. Perhaps excepting some famous, heart-throb status musicians lamenting about their lost, true loves this way… But that would be another kind of performance altogether, not one to spontaneously elicit similarly unkind note-comparing.

    And every orbiter/soulmater/ONE-itist/clinger should have Mark’s post burned deep into their consciousness, lest they get burned themselves. This and Patrice O’Neal’s “Time Ho” comedic piece (YouTube is your friend). Don’t. fvcking. waste. your. time. on dead ends.

    Nek:
    Oddly enough, the manosphere has led me to realize how “red pill” i have been throughout my life naturally, but since I didn’t know anyone who shared my sentiments I’d give women the benefit of the doubt and go against my gut much to my dismay. People use to tell me that my way of thinking was “wrong” with respect to gender dynamics (when I’d actually open up honestly about it).

    I have similarly always been tuned to potentially hazardous (for a relationship) character traits, or what I’d now call “red flags”; I’ve wondered how no-one else seems to have noticed those in others or at least hinted at them, not to mention barrelling into a relationship slash marriage with a fvcking nutcase. But love conquers all. And pillages and levels, if need be.

  27. I would say that even sex does not mean much these days.

    For the modern woman, sex is like shaking hands. Don’t take it to mean much. Be ready for the fade anytime, even in marriage. Be the first to say goodbye. Never chase.

  28. @ mark minter
    “You could say the say thing about having a woman that has issues in HER determination of your sexual market value relative to how she views hers. You are in for Shit City if you actually start a relationship with her”

    Ye this exactly “five minutes of alpha” is going to drive that to above optimal efficiency. So when do they understand that what they got for a ONS is not what they can get from long term provisioning

  29. Bogart must have missed Arizona’s “Papers Please” law when he claims that Jose has the same rights as Kevin in Arizona. The comment about China was highly critical of China…you right wing statists sure are sensitive. Reproductive rights – indeed, most southern states believe that this should be determined by government, not by individuals, with prison as the penalty for failure to abide. If the right wing actually believed in freedom, they could get back its political power. But they’re statists, just like the left; and are welfare queens, but of the corporate welfare/government contract variety.

  30. Don’t right wingers support the illegalization of marijuana? Even industrial hemp? What gives?

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