Single + Hot = Crazy

I heard this theory come up on a local radio talk show this morning. The idea is basically for men to be wary of exceptionally hot women who are chronically single. The point being that a hot woman ought to be more likely to be monogamous by virtue of her easy ability to attract guys, but if she is constantly single that it’s indicative of emotional / psychological issues that prevent her from getting involved, or deters men in spite of her beauty (i.e. pump & dump-able but not LTR material).

I’ve experienced this phenomenon played out in the past, but I was wondering what other’s takes on it was.

From our Game-aware side of the equation we can certainly see the logic of this, but for men, to be single, childless and never married after 30 carries a social stigma. Of course they’re presumptions, but how many times have your married friends attempted to set you up with a girl who they think has LTR / Marriage potential for you when you’re single? You’re either a workaholic, status seeking, a latent homosexual or must have some other personality flaw if you’re not following “life’s plan” (see, fem-centrism’s plan) like everyone else. In fact in some respects being married (or at least in a serious LTR) serves as social proof of a certain degree of maturity that might be beneficial for a guy in his career. At the very least it encourages the perception that you’re not gay, irresponsible or overly status seeking and family oriented, irrespective of the actual truth.

Now, that’s as it applies to Men; I’m not so sure that it benefits women as much. We can play the career woman meme and forgive her for not being married and childless, and she garners a relative respect because “she’s fighting her way up the corporate ladder to break the glass ceiling in a world controlled by men” so the Matrix respects that personal sacrifice. In fact if she’s a single parent or married we afford her that much more respect because she’s “doing it all” and at a perceived disadvantage. But, is all this girl-power acceptance really masking what would otherwise be considered a retardation in maturity?

It’s socially acceptable to shame a man for being a ‘kidult’ if he hasn’t gotten with life’s program – he has an underlying maturity problem – but for women, bucking the ‘program’ is evidence of integrity and independence. This begs the question, if she’s attractive enough to retain male attention, but has never solidified a monogamous relationship is there something wrong with her?

The Hot Ones are Crazy

That’s all about the career driven people, but what I was getting at is, is there a corollary between an average woman’s attractiveness, her being perpetually unable to establish a healthy LTR and a personality disorder or mental imbalance? Maybe using the term “chronically single” was a bit of a misnomer. What I mean is an otherwise healthy, dating, attractive woman who, for whatever reason, has been unable to establish a long term connection with a guy. That may be due to men becoming wary of her, or by her own inability to make a lasting connection due to her own insecurities, or by attention whoring. Essentially, is an HB 9 who’s never been in a healthy LTR by age 30 a woman that men should wary of? Is it a red flag?

If you asked 100 different women whether the degree of attractiveness was corollary with how mentally balanced a woman is, my guess is that you’d get answers biased by how relatively attractive each woman was. This is similar to how most very attractive women aren’t as bothered by sexualization in varying degrees as they become less and less so. In other words the HB5 will rail against sexism of skimpy bikinis and beauty pageants, while the HB10 could care less. It serves the less attractive women’s imperative to disqualify more attractive women’s chances of taking the men they’d want to pair with. This is competitive hypergamy 101. So the gorgeous blonde HB10 with huge tits is automatically cast as a bimbo. Women would like nothing more than for a high value men to think of more attractive, chronically single women to be considered damaged goods.

The Maninstitute has a great breakdown of The Hot/Crazy Scale

43 comments

  1. Women are all crazy, it’s just varying levels of crazy. That said, the fashion majors/ model wannabes and cheerleaders/ dance team girls/ future strippers here in my college jump from relationship to relationship with nothing lasting more than 3 months. Every guy whose dated one of those girls regrets doing so, so there might be something about this hotter = crazier. Hell, I dated one briefly, she was such a crazy bitch I did not consider her worth the effort and just got up and left (she’s still a little pissed about that).

  2. You mean like 33 year old 8.5 blondes with fake titties who work at the strip club part time?

    If a “normal” woman has an overinflated ego and an attitude to match these days it only makes sense that a 30 something who had more than enough ability to command a commitment from a high value male when she was in her 20’s is probably cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Especially if she doesn’t have the career thing to use as an excuse. Either way she’s worthless as a long term partner.

  3. If one has willpower, resisting ltrs with psycho 10s for the benefits of pumpndumps has advantages.

    Just don’t give her your real addy.

  4. I really don’t understand this 30 and over single stigma. Where is this being perpetuated? FYI, I come from a religious community and see it there. I just don’t see it in mainstream society.

  5. I do see it for women… just not for men. On the contrary, there are lots of examples of 30+ single men that are “Alpha”.

  6. Interesting post, as I have been wondering about that myself; in fact, about 10 years ago, I had a situation similar to this. Met this hot girl (easily HB9) in a convenience store while I was gassing up and struck up a conversation with her. We really hit it off, and I got her number (was working at the time, so that was all I could do). Called her on my next day off, and arranged a date. The date went really well, and we ended up back at my place. Time goes by, and this girl is all but living with me. But as time went on, I began to see hints of mental unbalance. She was very possessive, and seemed to enjoy shit tests and starting fights. I decided I needed some space, and tried to stay away from her as much as I could. One night while I was was working, my dispatcher called me and told me I needed to call in as soon as possible. I called in, and was told that this girl had called, and was at my place and that she had taken a bunch of pills. I went home, and found her on my couch. She began yelling and screaming, cursing and throwing things. I called her sister, and she came and got her. I told her that it was over, and she should not ever call me or come to my house again. The next day, I changed the locks. I had to change my phone number, and eventually had to move because of this girl. I also almost had to find another job, because she would call my work constantly and harass the dispatcher and my boss. Then it all stopped. 6 months later, I saw her sister at the grocery store, and she told me that the girl had hooked up with a biker, and went off with him, somewhere out west.
    After that episode (which lasted the better part of 2 years) I am now very leery about the women I date.

  7. I don’t think this is just a competitive hypergamy thing.

    The attractive women that are chronically single and can not hold on to a man or settle down with one definitely have issues.

  8. I’ve read about really attractive women who are perpetually single because they are so attractive that men automatically assume they are off the market.

    I’m not saying its true. Men hit on married women all the time. But perhaps in a largely feminized society with so many beta males it might be true.

  9. My anecdote mirrors some of these stories. Obviously the hot ones who know they’re hot are holding out for the highest commodity in the SMP, but I think that they just may not know when to quell the hypergamy… self-sustained as it is by steady received attention from suitors. A couple of years ago I met a solid HB9.5 and started a relationship knowing there’d be some shit-tests, but for every shit test I’d deflect she’d throw three more. I understand in hindsight she was anxious to affirm that she wasn’t wasting her time when she could have gone ‘more apha,’ but the really hot ones (9 and up) can ALWAYS go more alpha – just not COMMITTED alpha. Until, that is, they hit the wall.

    Just a half-ass theory (and I’m sure it’s been pointed out here before), but I think that’s why the really hot ones can’t establish a healthy relationship long-term (unless they land the proverbial golden goose). The ‘what-if-I-can-do-better’ is always nagging at them. But as everyone knows (seemingly except for the hot ones), your true SMV is not dictated by how many man want to have sex with you, but how many men genuinely want to commit to you.

    My relationship with her lasted about three months, until I became just too damn exhausted in putting up with her and ended it. Frankly the cost-benefit between her hotness and my quickly eroding tolerance for her behavior wasn’t falling out in her favor. The arm candy and bedding was nice, but I just wasn’t enjoying the day to day of the relationship, and just having her for show and tell got old.

    I think my father was dead-on correct: Bed the beauties until you’re in your forties, then settle for a nice plain jane ten years younger who’s grateful as hell to have your kids and share your bed. Worked for him in spades.

  10. I think that sometimes hot chicks have a hard time with men because they find that in short order, one after another, they can control them. Even big bad alphas can be vulnerable, and dude after dude goes beta on her, no matter how bad-ass they seemed up front… and that weak beta leaves her exposed to the approaches of other dudes, which spells doom for any long term attempts, for this deadly combination.

    but even if this is the problem, she is probably still also crazy.

  11. Slightly related but also somewhat different is the relationship between hotness and risk taking behavior. My perception is that amongst women 7-10 there are far, far more women who like some degree of risk taking and general thrill seeking. Women 1-4 on the other hand I generally perceive to be much, much more careful in all their doings. I did an experiment today looking at all the women on the street and trying to get a feel for how carefull vs carefree/risk willing they where and the 1-4 set seemed just so much more carefull and boring. My guess would be that hotter women can afford more risk because there are always men to bail them out and that they are designed to get with alphas and lesser alphas who are the men least scared of risk and the most outgoing and thrill seeking in general. There are lots of exceptions to this of course but I think the general picture holds.

  12. “I think my father was dead-on correct: Bed the beauties until you’re in your forties, then settle for a nice plain jane ten years younger who’s grateful as hell to have your kids and share your bed. Worked for him in spades.”

    I’m with your pop. My gf is HB 6.5-7, 32yo to my 44…..and a better deal than the HB 8’s and up I’ve dated *combined*.

  13. Sounds good except the kid part. 32 is a bit old to start a family, isn’t it? And she has no kids of her own?

  14. 32yo, but Asian + takes care of herself so looks late 20’s. And yes, no kids….but we’re presently working on that, heh.

    I just want one. Very, very preferably a male.

  15. I think something to be considered is BPD, i dated a borderline chick for a year, i dont have seething contempt for that woman anymore as i know she’s just a sick individual who is unwilling to seek help. But if you ever do encounter one it will leave you drained and lost. If one has a sucession of dating crazies the question must be asked why do i keep attracting crazies? some objective self reflection can go along way.

  16. My experience suggests that most hot chicks are fucked in the head.

    The 7s I have been involved with have for the most part been the sane ones. The 8s and occasional 9, not so much.

    7s will often disqualify themselves from competing over higher status men, while the 8s and 9s will duke it out (figuratively but sometimes not so figuratively) because they stand a better chance of winning. Thus, the craziness. Add onto that the fact that by nature of hypergamy, these 9s, and some 8s, are fighting for a small pool of men.

    To expand on that, anytime a chick wants you and thinks she has the goods to keep you, but is under competition, she will start doing crazy things.

  17. I cannot believe you used the word “crazy” sir. In fact, I’m appalled. Hot chicks are not crazy, they’re selective! Everyone knows the more desirable a woman is, the higher the likelihood that she’ll be single.

    It’s like $100 bills. Ever try to give those things away? Nobody wants them, because they can’t handle real money.

    Feel free to post your apology below.

  18. Hot chicks who are not crazy and are selective aren’t single. They may be single for months, but not chronically single for decades. If they eschew human relationships then they are intrinsically crazy, by definition.

  19. Begging the question and raising the question are two different things.

    How much less could the HB10 care?

  20. Well hello. I am one of those single gorgeous women over 30 that you see around you assume that if she doesn’t have/want a male that she is “crazy”. I guess it would just hurt your little ego too much to admit she simply wants to be single. So here I am giving unecessary explanations to random talking dildos. I am a radical feminist, misandrist and sex worker. I have PTSD because of males. I was victimized by men in my childhood. I’ve also noticed how men in general are lying pigs who run “game” and think with their penises. I prefer to be single and may also resume dating women. I have no issue getting along with most women. You morons will go on to label women like me “crazy” whilst not admitting that men cause trauma to women on both a personal and grand scale. I don’t give three shits what anyone thinks. I am not going to attach myself to an emotional cripple/sex addict that is men. I will be single or lesbian and I have freedom to make that choice.

  21. With so many Psycho women nowadays unfortunately it is Best for us Good Guys to stay Single.

  22. “It serves the less attractive women’s imperative to disqualify more attractive women’s chances of taking the men they’d want to pair with. This is competitive hypergamy 101.”

    Many, many examples of competitive sniping here.

    My favorite yet:

    Walled woman complaining about kidult men and the SMP, leaves room.

    Younger, hotter female: “She’s just angry she has dead eggs.”

  23. “It’s socially acceptable to shame a man for being a ‘kidult’ if he hasn’t gotten with life’s program – he has an underlying maturity problem – but for women, bucking the ‘program’ is evidence of integrity and independence. This begs the question, if she’s attractive enough to retain male attention, but has never solidified a monogamous relationship is there something wrong with her?”

    “Women would like nothing more than for a high value men to think of more attractive, chronically single women to be considered damaged goods.

    The Maninstitute has a great breakdown of The Hot/Crazy Scale”

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