Single + Hot = Crazy

I heard this theory come up on a local radio talk show this morning. The idea is basically for men to be wary of exceptionally hot women who are chronically single. The point being that a hot woman ought to be more likely to be monogamous by virtue of her easy ability to attract guys, but if she is constantly single that it’s indicative of emotional / psychological issues that prevent her from getting involved, or deters men in spite of her beauty (i.e. pump & dump-able but not LTR material).

I’ve experienced this phenomenon played out in the past, but I was wondering what other’s takes on it was.

From our Game-aware side of the equation we can certainly see the logic of this, but for men, to be single, childless and never married after 30 carries a social stigma. Of course they’re presumptions, but how many times have your married friends attempted to set you up with a girl who they think has LTR / Marriage potential for you when you’re single? You’re either a workaholic, status seeking, a latent homosexual or must have some other personality flaw if you’re not following “life’s plan” (see, fem-centrism’s plan) like everyone else. In fact in some respects being married (or at least in a serious LTR) serves as social proof of a certain degree of maturity that might be beneficial for a guy in his career. At the very least it encourages the perception that you’re not gay, irresponsible or overly status seeking and family oriented, irrespective of the actual truth.

Now, that’s as it applies to Men; I’m not so sure that it benefits women as much. We can play the career woman meme and forgive her for not being married and childless, and she garners a relative respect because “she’s fighting her way up the corporate ladder to break the glass ceiling in a world controlled by men” so the Matrix respects that personal sacrifice. In fact if she’s a single parent or married we afford her that much more respect because she’s “doing it all” and at a perceived disadvantage. But, is all this girl-power acceptance really masking what would otherwise be considered a retardation in maturity?

It’s socially acceptable to shame a man for being a ‘kidult’ if he hasn’t gotten with life’s program – he has an underlying maturity problem – but for women, bucking the ‘program’ is evidence of integrity and independence. This begs the question, if she’s attractive enough to retain male attention, but has never solidified a monogamous relationship is there something wrong with her?

The Hot Ones are Crazy

That’s all about the career driven people, but what I was getting at is, is there a corollary between an average woman’s attractiveness, her being perpetually unable to establish a healthy LTR and a personality disorder or mental imbalance? Maybe using the term “chronically single” was a bit of a misnomer. What I mean is an otherwise healthy, dating, attractive woman who, for whatever reason, has been unable to establish a long term connection with a guy. That may be due to men becoming wary of her, or by her own inability to make a lasting connection due to her own insecurities, or by attention whoring. Essentially, is an HB 9 who’s never been in a healthy LTR by age 30 a woman that men should wary of? Is it a red flag?

If you asked 100 different women whether the degree of attractiveness was corollary with how mentally balanced a woman is, my guess is that you’d get answers biased by how relatively attractive each woman was. This is similar to how most very attractive women aren’t as bothered by sexualization in varying degrees as they become less and less so. In other words the HB5 will rail against sexism of skimpy bikinis and beauty pageants, while the HB10 could care less. It serves the less attractive women’s imperative to disqualify more attractive women’s chances of taking the men they’d want to pair with. This is competitive hypergamy 101. So the gorgeous blonde HB10 with huge tits is automatically cast as a bimbo. Women would like nothing more than for a high value men to think of more attractive, chronically single women to be considered damaged goods.

The Maninstitute has a great breakdown of The Hot/Crazy Scale

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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YOHAMI
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If she’s in a relationship, she’s probably crazy too.

Bwana Simba
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Women are all crazy, it’s just varying levels of crazy. That said, the fashion majors/ model wannabes and cheerleaders/ dance team girls/ future strippers here in my college jump from relationship to relationship with nothing lasting more than 3 months. Every guy whose dated one of those girls regrets doing so, so there might be something about this hotter = crazier. Hell, I dated one briefly, she was such a crazy bitch I did not consider her worth the effort and just got up and left (she’s still a little pissed about that).

Good Luck Chuck
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Good Luck Chuck

You mean like 33 year old 8.5 blondes with fake titties who work at the strip club part time?

If a “normal” woman has an overinflated ego and an attitude to match these days it only makes sense that a 30 something who had more than enough ability to command a commitment from a high value male when she was in her 20’s is probably cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Especially if she doesn’t have the career thing to use as an excuse. Either way she’s worthless as a long term partner.

LS
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LS

The ones who were hot but sane were unfortunately boring (outside of the bed, of course).

Firepower
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If one has willpower, resisting ltrs with psycho 10s for the benefits of pumpndumps has advantages.

Just don’t give her your real addy.

Scott
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Scott

I really don’t understand this 30 and over single stigma. Where is this being perpetuated? FYI, I come from a religious community and see it there. I just don’t see it in mainstream society.

Scott
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Scott

I do see it for women… just not for men. On the contrary, there are lots of examples of 30+ single men that are “Alpha”.

Fugitive King
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I cannot deny the correlation in my own experience, for whatever the reasons

dkiller88
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dkiller88

Interesting post, as I have been wondering about that myself; in fact, about 10 years ago, I had a situation similar to this. Met this hot girl (easily HB9) in a convenience store while I was gassing up and struck up a conversation with her. We really hit it off, and I got her number (was working at the time, so that was all I could do). Called her on my next day off, and arranged a date. The date went really well, and we ended up back at my place. Time goes by, and this girl is all but… Read more »

Hero
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Hero

I don’t think this is just a competitive hypergamy thing.

The attractive women that are chronically single and can not hold on to a man or settle down with one definitely have issues.

Arch
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Arch

I’ve read about really attractive women who are perpetually single because they are so attractive that men automatically assume they are off the market.

I’m not saying its true. Men hit on married women all the time. But perhaps in a largely feminized society with so many beta males it might be true.

feral1404
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feral1404

My anecdote mirrors some of these stories. Obviously the hot ones who know they’re hot are holding out for the highest commodity in the SMP, but I think that they just may not know when to quell the hypergamy… self-sustained as it is by steady received attention from suitors. A couple of years ago I met a solid HB9.5 and started a relationship knowing there’d be some shit-tests, but for every shit test I’d deflect she’d throw three more. I understand in hindsight she was anxious to affirm that she wasn’t wasting her time when she could have gone ‘more… Read more »

Samuel
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I think that sometimes hot chicks have a hard time with men because they find that in short order, one after another, they can control them. Even big bad alphas can be vulnerable, and dude after dude goes beta on her, no matter how bad-ass they seemed up front… and that weak beta leaves her exposed to the approaches of other dudes, which spells doom for any long term attempts, for this deadly combination.

but even if this is the problem, she is probably still also crazy.

Wudang
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Wudang

Slightly related but also somewhat different is the relationship between hotness and risk taking behavior. My perception is that amongst women 7-10 there are far, far more women who like some degree of risk taking and general thrill seeking. Women 1-4 on the other hand I generally perceive to be much, much more careful in all their doings. I did an experiment today looking at all the women on the street and trying to get a feel for how carefull vs carefree/risk willing they where and the 1-4 set seemed just so much more carefull and boring. My guess would… Read more »

driveallnight
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driveallnight

“I think my father was dead-on correct: Bed the beauties until you’re in your forties, then settle for a nice plain jane ten years younger who’s grateful as hell to have your kids and share your bed. Worked for him in spades.”

I’m with your pop. My gf is HB 6.5-7, 32yo to my 44…..and a better deal than the HB 8’s and up I’ve dated *combined*.

OffTheCuff
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OffTheCuff

Sounds good except the kid part. 32 is a bit old to start a family, isn’t it? And she has no kids of her own?

driveallnight
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driveallnight

32yo, but Asian + takes care of herself so looks late 20’s. And yes, no kids….but we’re presently working on that, heh.

I just want one. Very, very preferably a male.

Nutz
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Nutz

I like this classic gem:

Women are:

A) Hot
B) Single
C) Sane

Pick two.

cynical optimist
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cynical optimist

I think something to be considered is BPD, i dated a borderline chick for a year, i dont have seething contempt for that woman anymore as i know she’s just a sick individual who is unwilling to seek help. But if you ever do encounter one it will leave you drained and lost. If one has a sucession of dating crazies the question must be asked why do i keep attracting crazies? some objective self reflection can go along way.

E.J.
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E.J.

Genius.

Samuel
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because they’re fun.

FFY
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My experience suggests that most hot chicks are fucked in the head. The 7s I have been involved with have for the most part been the sane ones. The 8s and occasional 9, not so much. 7s will often disqualify themselves from competing over higher status men, while the 8s and 9s will duke it out (figuratively but sometimes not so figuratively) because they stand a better chance of winning. Thus, the craziness. Add onto that the fact that by nature of hypergamy, these 9s, and some 8s, are fighting for a small pool of men. To expand on that,… Read more »

FFY
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Anytime an *American* chick wants you and thinks she has the goods

FIxed that there

Firepower
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I always pick
Single &
Hot

xsplat
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There ain’t no crazy like SEA crazy.

Or maybe it’s crazy is just cross cultural woman shit.

driveallnight
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driveallnight

Nope, you got it right with your initial sentence di ba.

Professor Mentu
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I cannot believe you used the word “crazy” sir. In fact, I’m appalled. Hot chicks are not crazy, they’re selective! Everyone knows the more desirable a woman is, the higher the likelihood that she’ll be single.

It’s like $100 bills. Ever try to give those things away? Nobody wants them, because they can’t handle real money.

Feel free to post your apology below.

Deep Dish
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Deep Dish

Hot chicks who are not crazy and are selective aren’t single. They may be single for months, but not chronically single for decades. If they eschew human relationships then they are intrinsically crazy, by definition.

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wasd
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wasd

Begging the question and raising the question are two different things.

How much less could the HB10 care?

Rivelino
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@yohami

“If she’s in a relationship, she’s probably crazy too.”

funny dude!

YOHAMI
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Take crazy for granted.

SexWithRichWomen
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We are crazy women and we are paying for sex with real men !

FuriousFerret
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FuriousFerret

^^^^

What part of Nigeria are you from? Is the weather good there this time of year?

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gorgeousdickchopper
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gorgeousdickchopper

Well hello. I am one of those single gorgeous women over 30 that you see around you assume that if she doesn’t have/want a male that she is “crazy”. I guess it would just hurt your little ego too much to admit she simply wants to be single. So here I am giving unecessary explanations to random talking dildos. I am a radical feminist, misandrist and sex worker. I have PTSD because of males. I was victimized by men in my childhood. I’ve also noticed how men in general are lying pigs who run “game” and think with their penises.… Read more »

TheSadTruth
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TheSadTruth

Just too many very Psycho women nowadays which is very sad.

Staying Single
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Staying Single

With so many Psycho women nowadays unfortunately it is Best for us Good Guys to stay Single.

EhIntellect
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EhIntellect

“It serves the less attractive women’s imperative to disqualify more attractive women’s chances of taking the men they’d want to pair with. This is competitive hypergamy 101.”

Many, many examples of competitive sniping here.

My favorite yet:

Walled woman complaining about kidult men and the SMP, leaves room.

Younger, hotter female: “She’s just angry she has dead eggs.”

rugby11
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rugby11

“It’s socially acceptable to shame a man for being a ‘kidult’ if he hasn’t gotten with life’s program – he has an underlying maturity problem – but for women, bucking the ‘program’ is evidence of integrity and independence. This begs the question, if she’s attractive enough to retain male attention, but has never solidified a monogamous relationship is there something wrong with her?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJVDP7FaiqI “Women would like nothing more than for a high value men to think of more attractive, chronically single women to be considered damaged goods. The Maninstitute has a great breakdown of The Hot/Crazy Scale” Become the… Read more »

Hen
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Hen

A problem is that both men and women are on their best behaviour at the start of a relationship. They can go months sometimes before their facade starts to slip, and the further a relationship goes the harder it can be to end it for various reasons.

M2
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M2

I think this ties back to Rollo’s observation that women perpetually over-estimate their SMV. Even a semi-attractive woman will receive enough attention to realize she has options, and whoever she is involved with will seem to become stale after a few months given the constant attention she receives outside the relationship unless she is a perfectly self-actualized individual and can understand clearly her impulses and the value of the man she may be with at the time. Assuming you carry yourself with a RP mindset, the survival of the relationship from her side then defaults to how much baggage she… Read more »

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