Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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@SJF

Thank you very much for this — and especially this:

“At this point it was about self differentiation, stepping outside of the relationship. Then using self differentiation tools, and then stepping back into the relationship arena a better man. And not requiring her to change unless she wanted to. Letting her be responsive to the better man.”

Passion, authenticity and dynamism: the three pillars, then to becoming ‘the better man’… from which all else stems.

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@TantumErgo Lucky Man, you. You get to meet up with Palma. https://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY Happiness More or less It’s just a change in me Something in my liberty Oh, my, my Happiness Coming and going I watch you look at me Watch my fever growing I know just where I am But how many corners do I have to turn? How many times do I have to learn All the love I have is in my mind? Well, I’m a lucky man With fire in my hands Happiness Something in my own place I’m stood here naked Smiling, I feel no disgrace… Read more »

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@Tantum Ergo

I don’t know if I remember all of your narrative correctly or exactly.

You had the Babushka thing. Mail order bride?

Where do you stand now, and what do you need help with in going forward?

What do you feel you could do best? What do you think is your worst that you need help with?

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@SJF Ha! Ha! Like your comment about Babushka being ‘a mail order bride?’ 😂 You had some v e r y good advice for me, particularly with regard to my having had no frame in that relationship, as well as looking out for the red flags of someone with BPD. Here is the sorry tale…. https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-118/#comment-274264 As for now…. :: General Pluses and Minuses Weaknesses: I become too emotionally attached to the women that I want to fuck, and, with Babushka, I (genuinely) fell in love with the wrong woman, and failed to establish any frame. Strengths: I am relatively… Read more »

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“I have only managed to bang her once, and she hasrrecently flaked on my trying to see her again… and at the last minute.”

Why do you think she flaked? And at the last minute?

“Bitches, take a number.” Why does this work with girls?

You talk about plates…I hope you’re actually spinning several right now.

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@the asdgamer “Why do you think she flaked? And at the last minute?” She is a student and lives in the suburbs (I live in the city) with her parents and brother …. but that’s not it. She was down to meet, and the weather on Sunday was very good where I live, and I had sold her on the idea of going to my local park and enjoying the sunshine to start with …. I am new territory for her, being considerably older, and she has previously complained that when dating boys of her own age she has felt… Read more »

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“she has previously complained that when dating boys of her own age she has felt pressured into having sex with them. That could be it, a form of ‘buyer’s remorse’” …don’t believe her bullshit about being pressured about sex…that’s just anti-slut defense talk…she wants sex and she also wants to feel like she’s a nice girl…and she’s trying to get you to believe that she’s a nice girl… “But … she may not be sold on this, and her flaking some 10 hours before we were due to meet is merely a shit test.” …not a shit test…right now, she… Read more »

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@Tantum “She was down to meet, and the weather on Sunday was very good where I live, and I had sold her on the idea of going to my local park and enjoying the sunshine to start with” Ehh kinda too early for this. This is what’s known as a “boyfriend behavior (bb).” Going for a stroll in the park. With fuckbuddies, especially girls that you’ve only fucked once, you wanna follow the ‘fuck first, ask questions later’ model (opposite being the relationship model: relationship activity (dinner/movies THEN sex). Meaning: text her to come back to your place. Then after… Read more »

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@theasdgamer Many thanks for your reply and helpful advice: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-122/#comment-277246 “…don’t believe her bullshit about being pressured about sex…that’s just anti-slut defense talk…she wants sex and she also wants to feel like she’s a nice girl…and she’s trying to get you to believe that she’s a nice girl…” Understood, and I won’t. But do I just ignore the ‘nice girl’ disguise and keep my comms with her purely sexualised? I haven’t reacted to her blowing me off at the last minute, and my inclination is just to leave it hanging while I scout for other options. “… right now, she… Read more »

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@j “Ehh kinda too early for this. This is what’s known as a “boyfriend behavior (bb).” Going for a stroll in the park. With fuckbuddies, especially girls that you’ve only fucked once, you wanna follow the ‘fuck first, ask questions later’ model (opposite being the relationship model: relationship activity (dinner/movies THEN sex). Meaning: text her to come back to your place. Then after sex, you can go for that stroll in the park/go out and get breakfast if you want. By doing actions that can be perceived as bb, you start signaling to the girl that you may want to… Read more »

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““Young girls are very in the moment. In that they make plans at the last minute and don’t stick to plans they agree to in advanced.”

Older women are the same way.

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@theadsgamer @j ““Young girls are very in the moment. In that they make plans at the last minute and don’t stick to plans they agree to in advanced.” “Older women are the same way.” So what’s the trigger for this flakiness and inability to commit? Is it because women — both young and older — innately think that they might have a better last-minute option? Or is it a method to weaken a man’s frame and get control (a shit test)? I have had it in the past where some of the women I was seeing would never be on… Read more »

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“So what’s the trigger for this flakiness and inability to commit? Is it because women — both young and older — innately think that they might have a better last-minute option? Or is it a method to weaken a man’s frame and get control (a shit test)? I have had it in the past where some of the women I was seeing would never be on time. My response was simply to wait about 10 minutes max, and then take off without explanation. Whenever they gave me shit for it, I would explain that I had other things to do,… Read more »

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@EhIntellect, @SJF, thanks. I want to say, after a while I think and read about these things, I’ve seen a difference in me. In the early posts, I was asking more about cheat codes. What do I do if she says X/does Y. I’ve had more of those tests, even in the last days, and maybe I’ll report – but I can see that cheat codes for a better negotiating position help up to a point. Having a stack of stimulus-response routines is an unnatural way to live after a while. This does not mean they don’t help, and I… Read more »

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Did yareally promote direct game or indirect game? Going though his old blog trying to get an idea of what one of his FR’s would look like, it’s hard to get a picture in my head based on the apparent conflict between some of his posts. When he gave little snippets into his game, and basically what ‘game’ is, he’d always write things like ”“YOU. Who ARE you? ” “Oh, uhh, I’m Sally?” “Well Sally, I saw you from across the room and had to come say hello. I think we’re going to have to have a million babies together.”… Read more »

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Wow thanks a ton for that post. I have read it thoroughly and went out and tried that style of daygame today. Will write about what happened. Maybe you could analyse it. Will go out tomorrow as well to try it and write my observations together. Thanks a ton!

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“Did yareally promote direct game or indirect game?”

Yes.

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😂

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@ford lol. believe it or not, this is actually one of the most frequently asked questions by rookies in multiple forums/blogs. so don’t feel bad about being confused. I’m sorry YaReally didn’t do a good enough job of explaining when to go indirect/direct. Or what those each style even looks like besides specific opening lines. So first, you’ll want to know what PUAs actually mean by running “indirect” game. Here’s my (username: Velasco) comment on indirect game: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/night-game/332404-direct-and-indirect?p=332422#post332422 (be sure to check out page 2 as well and read @skills360 and @Logic&Reason’s comments). Check out this really good quick 5… Read more »

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FR for yeareally (although It doesn’t look like he posts here anymore) First open (me and 3 friends) was on 3 girls sitting down. I was just like ‘hi, I’m ford’, and then one of them was like ”Sorry, we’re trying to have a private convo” and more or less blew us all out. Tried to get them to talk for a few seconds but they weren’t interested Next open was on 2 VERY hot young girls. Like solid 9’s. My friend opened this set and was like ‘hi, how’s your night going?’ and he got a brutal ”you can… Read more »

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”you can fuck off!” my reply: …so you’re already bringing up fucking…that’s a bit fast for my taste… [enforcing your boundaries in a humorous way] Option 1: …then maybe they back off and apologize and explain the situation, in which case you engage them Option 2: …they tell you to go to hell, in which case you tell them to have a good evening, you backturn, then waft fumes from your ass in their direction as you slowly depart, without looking at them…you get extra drama points with other girls watching you do this to hotties…they can tell that you’re… Read more »

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@ford “I got speaking to her about dating etc, trying to sexualise the convo slightly and trying to make it more man to woman etc. Laser eyes etc”. Good topics. But kind of a broad subject. What specifically were you talking to her about dating and how did you sexualize the convo? and how was she responding? it’s safe to assume, that if she was responding well to your sexual conversation (and contributing to it with more than one sentence (“oh ya that makes sense”)…giving you some good insights about her dating life (we all know girl’s favorite thing to… Read more »

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Good thread by @Neils on spotting less obvious (covert dangers) bad LTR partners https://twitter.com/NielsKnk/status/1145617917146476545 The dead giveaways: 1) Dysfunctional family: If their family hates them, or is severely dysfunctional, the odds of them being a covert danger is much higher. 2) Friends: If they have almost no friends or have no long term friends, they are much more likely to be a covert danger. 3) Unstable: If they are always on the move, can’t keep a job for long etc, they’re more likely to be covert dangers. Forced to move around whenever exposed. “Make sure you have a strong network… Read more »

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J, why are you bringing up LTRs?

Ford: “I open with something like ”Hey girls! My friends are being boring so I thought i’d come and see what you’re about for a few seconds”. Surprisingly good reaction.”

…cuz they think you’re retarded for dissing your friends…so they think you might amuse them a little…as a court fool…not high value…

…you should build up your friends as valuable…just not as valuable as you are…”Joe is a MMA contender…he has my back…which is why I let him buy me drinks…” [you punch Joe in the arm and grin at him]

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Guys, it’s the birthday of a girl I’m dating for almost a year. She’s been trying to pin me down after hearing that I got a job. What’s your opinio? Should I wish her on her birthday?

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Victor

What have you done for girls in the past?

How’s that worked?

Google “heartiste Skittles man” and “dick in a box” for ideas…

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Sentient, I have bought a necklace(cheap one) for a girl once, which she tried to return but I didn’t take back.

With this girl I’m dating, I haven’t done much monetarily other than spending a few euros on dates. But we’ve been in touch for a year and knows each other well.

Can you send the links of those two search terms you mentioned. There are lots and I’m confused

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“Direct openers like that can come across as very needy and a DLV. In this case you bounced from one failure to the next and every woman in the place probably sensed it, plus your desperation pinged their radar.” If your body language shows desperation, that’s true. It all depends on your body language. I was asking several women to dance and all were declining. When two that were looks-challenged declined haughtily, I snorted in derision, backturned them, and moved on. Then I asked another couple of girls to dance. They also declined. I moved on. No big deal. About… Read more »

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It seems that the archives of Heartiste at heartiste.org are missing April 2008 through December 2012.

Here was Be a Skittles Man from the internet archive wayback machine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130218144434/https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/

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@Victor: I remember Skittles Man which SJF linked for you.
I don’t remember reading about “Dick in a box”, but that just instantly evokes the mental imagery required, so…

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@Victor: another idea from Heartiste is a wrapped box of condoms.
https://heartiste.net/drive-by-teases-2/

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@J -”What specifically were you talking to her about dating and how did you sexualize the convo? and how was she responding?” Just how she meets guys, what her type is, oldest guy she’s banged etc. She was responding like she was super comfortable etc, but other than that, hard to tell. I didn’t sense she was into me, for exmaple, despite how friendly and social she was. I felt like she was just one of them girls who was happy to chat ”A simple, “hey lets go find “handsome dude” for your friend” would have sufficed.” Unfortunately, the one… Read more »

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@IAS have your tried any of these? How has it worked for you?

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@ford “Just how she meets guys, what her type is, oldest guy she’s banged” “I felt like she was just one of them girls who was happy to chat” This is good stuff, but these are surface level topics. You gotta go DEEPER into these if you want the desired effect (from “happy to chat” to “wow this guy is really interesting/turning me on”). “Have you ever fucked someone who wasn’t your type?” “Have you ever met someone who was your type and you really wanted to bang him but then he turned out to be super boring? or you… Read more »

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@Blaximus

Last week on a commercial flight a cute flight attendant put her hand on my shoulder and called me “Honey” as she
gave me a soft drink. I was just sitting there, obviously she was so into me, and we weren’t even dancing!

I’m so set for female companions…for the rest of my life!

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@gamenoob @ford @studentofgame

Good day game infield from Alex of UMP:

Besides his verbals (what topics he brings up and how he transitions into them. what frames he’s setting), pay close attention to his non-verbals (body language, bedroom eyes, smile (when he smiles and doesn’t smile) pregnant pauses), and fundamentals/looksmax (clothes, hairstyle, facial hair, tattoo (not really a fundamental, but nice to have a visible one so girls can ask you about it) and implement them.

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Lol @ the skinny jean shit.

Jesus, what’s happened to men ( rhetorical ).

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The struggle is real.

Don’t dress like a bitch though….

Where’s HABD with the ” FI’s hand on your shoulder “??

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Hey AR, are you still incel?

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“I open every girl I want with an indirect situational opener (some guys say its hard to think on your feet. but I find it pretty easy when you’re in a really good flow…a couple of drinks and opening a few guys and girls in the venue before approaching that one girl you really want)” “I open every girl I want with an indirect situational opener (some guys say its hard to think on your feet. but I find it pretty easy when you’re in a really good flow…a couple of drinks and opening a few guys and girls in… Read more »

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Lmao. IDGAF who’s wearing that shit. It’s feminine.

Cookie cutter bullshit. Trends – but this shit is a feminine inspired trend. Skinny tight ass jeans, or jeans hanging off your ass with your drawers showing, all of that shit is feminine inspired.

Plus, drop T levels a few hundred points and guys are more amenable to the feminine frame.

Feminine Frame.

For females.

God help us if women start saying that clown noses are sexy.

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^^ Especially at 2:57 forward.

Video from 2014. Feminism evidently won this battle.

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not gonna get into this gay shit…the point I was making is to not look like a slob. And take pride in your outer appearance.

Alex for example is sporting a Tommy Hilfiger sweatshirt, powerbeats hanging around his neck, black ripped skinny jeans, pf flyers(?) and a modern hairstyle. Aka lookmaxxed.

https://www.instagram.com/mrjunho3/
https://www.instagram.com/magic_fox/
https://www.instagram.com/menwithstreetstyle/

If you don’t like skinny jeans, like if you they gay, don’t like how you look in them, or your thighs are too big for them like me, then just don’t wear them. Simple.

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Agree. Don’t be a fag.

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@j

Thanks for the video. I have reread Bacchus’s post thrice to internalize everything. I never knew about that forum. It has amazing posts, but it seems like it is shutting down and I cannot register as a new member and I am also not able to view a lot of the posts. Have you copied the great posts from on there or is there a backup for them. Would be great to read and learn from them.

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@Victor: I have tried some pretty much like those on the list (without having read the list before) and others that have the same idea.

Another good one that @Palmasailor mentioned a few times is dipping a finger on a drink (preferably her drink) and flicking it to (minorly) splash her face.

But you should really try to understand the underlying idea, not just use specific examples you read on a list!

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@gamenoob Yeah unfortunately you can’t register anymore because they’ve pulled the plug. I don’t know when the new forum will be ready. But I’ll be sure to link it here when its up. In the meantime, here’s a couple of posts, the member of the site found most helpful: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/334805-what-are-your-top-posts-from-nextasf (I recommend just going through @POB and @Skills360’s links) And here’s a couple of more posts from Bacchus that I’ve found helpful: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/328645-the-euro-step-attn-glow (read the comments as well) https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/327187-breaking-rapport-game-vs-connection-game-confusion-pls-help?p=327200#post327200 (his post is down in the comments. Explaining the difference between compliance and attraction) https://soundcloud.com/girlschase/26-daniel-adebayo-verbal-game-and-consistency – his GirlChase interview. Giving an… Read more »

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@j: thanks for the link to that interview, good material.

@Everyone: I recommend listening to the interview. It is under an hour and several interesting verbal game strategies are discussed with specific examples given.

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@j Great post and superb thread: ‘Covert’ versus ‘Overt’ dangers: https://twitter.com/NielsKnk/status/1145617917146476545/photo/1 While it would be good to avoid treading on the ‘dynamite’ in the first place by solid and selective filtering, the unfortunate truth for those of us who veer towards being AFCs, is that sometimes you HAVE to have it blow-up in your face in order learn the often very painful lesson. @neils makes the excellent points that 20/20 hindsight is a beautiful thing, and that, if you fall in love (with the wrong woman) – as I did (Babuskha), love effectively blindsides you anyway. :-() Key takeaway for… Read more »

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“I’ve been banging her on and off since November and she didn’t even know / or even ask up to this point”.

well yeah i mean you’re her fuckbuddy and she’s already got a bf. Why would she care about your relationship status up to this point lol. Now that you’ve shown her some provider value (in addition to your AF value), she’s thinking about potentially monkey branching.

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Field Report: Serendipity I was at my old stomping ground. I saw a bunch of old friends. One girl has a new bf and they were leaving early and she wanted a dance before they left. I saw some guys I don’t see a lot and we hung out some. Met the new gf of one of my buddies. My buddies and I were fucking around and I was giving some of them shit. I did the same with another group of buddies. I saw one girl who’s not a friend but follows me extremely well. Mid 20s–cold, yet sexy,… Read more »

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@Palmsailor

“She says “do you have a girlfriend”

I said “not really” and she is totally shocked”

So, is she looking to make you into boyfriend material?

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So, is she looking to make you into boyfriend material?
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https://youtu.be/R4apiZ4pOIo

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@SJF

https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-123/#comment-277547

Don Draper (DD): So tell me, what do women want?

Roger: Who cares? … Jesus, Do you know what they want? Everything . Especially if the other girls have it.’

THIS. smile

Many thanks.

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@Palma

Break it down and we’ll see.

It’s a combination of they’re all just girls</> (aka game works), culture (*) and individual characteristics (self-esteem, personality type etc).

(*) I wrote a piece on Russians/EEs a while back:
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-42/#comment-216306

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@Palmasailor “Anyway moving on, had a date with an Estonian tonight. It was odd, found her difficult to warm up. Either she just didn’t want to know or the rumours of then being cold until they know you have something to them. Anyone got any experience?” No experience with Estonians, but with a Belorusian (geographically as close to Estonia as I have yet been able to get …). She liked to test all the time, and was initially very cold, but being direct and sexualising worked very well. She was aware that she was attractive, and was used to swatting… Read more »

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For those with eyes covered…the point of my field report was that you can have a good time hanging with friends…and girls are just an added feature. You can be authentic and still have a good time. Amuse yourself first. Yeah, I flirt with girls and tell them sexy jokes and they don’t always like the jokes and that’s Ok. Amuse others to make yourself liked. Bring the party to others. Combine this with item 1. Console friends going through a rough patch. This helps you show that you’re authentic. Admit your mistakes and it’s Ok to feel silly about… Read more »

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Tell us about you hanging out with Palmasailor.

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@SJF The inaugural ‘London Summit’ with @Palmsailor was good, and the first step in my education. 😊 We ate, we drank, and we talked… @Palmsailor gave me some much-needed perspective on my Babushka affair, which is helping me to let go… as well as my most recent attempts with the half-Nicaruagan hottie. So that’s a good thing. In contrast to some of the stuff he has been through, I have actually gotten off quite lightly, although it hurts to have fallen in love with ‘the wrong woman’. I am dusting myself down, and need to get out into the field,… Read more »

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Some of you all must be on the rag.

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Public Service Announcement: The YaReally Archive is back online again. Only showing posts from 2012/13 but that’s a start. Good to have it back online instead of relying on the PDF Book of YaReally or messing around finding it on the Internet Archive etc.

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Number one problem in my view is you’re broke, so what you gonna do about that?

Number one is knowing – doing gap.

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@J

Thanks a ton. Went through all of them. Great insights. He mentions that he studied Gunwitch’s Seduction MMA extensively. Tried to find that program on torrents. They all were fakes. Do you know where I can download that program?

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Is this still running, I’m looking for some assistance, wonder if this is still the place. Thanks in advance

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Still running, and very much the place to come to for good advice. smile

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General question. Please recommend good websites to learn game. Not interested in those that charge a fortune.

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Game? How about Rollo’s Year 1 posts? How about Heartiste’s Sixteen Commandments of Poon. All free.

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Go download Mystery Method….

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Fred, be careful to not confuse pickup with game. Sentient is pushing pickup. Rollo wrote a post about children with dynamite where the children know pickup but have no game. “Mystery” himself lacked game and was dumped by his gf because he lacked game. (Erik von Markovic goes by his nickname “Mystery.”) “Is Erik von Markovik married? Yes, he was but his current marital status is not available. He was having a tough time with his wife with whom Markovik is a father to a child. He posted a picture on his Facebook account with his daughter and seems like… Read more »

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This site is a few years old, but the principles are timeless.
Some will assert that it is too verbose but if you are starting from utter Blue Pill state the level of detail should help you.

https://masculineprinciple.blogspot.com/2015/02/principles-of-seduction.htmla

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@Fred

What type of game?

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Ignore ASD… Lol. https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-74/#comment-246211

Here is Yareally’s newb resource guide. All should be available free with some digging.

https://therationalmale.com/2016/02/10/the-red-pill-monthly/#comment-140381

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Funny little snippet… So this married neighbor was out at a couples thing recently. She’s a total SJW and browbeats her handsome beta hubby. Saw her at a party six months ago did some teasing etc. from a dominant bon SJW frame. She lapped it up. Was the FR when she came back 10 or more feet to hug me goodbye. Anyhow it’s amazing how much these card carrying feminists crave someone telling them what to do. I’ve seen a ton of this from divorced moms over the last month. About a third of the moms on our teams are… Read more »

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Sentient – did you see that the Bastiat Blogger has taken his blog private? I wanted to go re-read his Septivium thoughts with my new self-improvement perspective and now I have to search around on the Internet Archive. @Fred Smith – welcome to the FR section. All you need is YaReally’s advice, and then to put it into action instead of reading more and more stuff and buffering yourself from going out and taking action (YaReally was a fantastic PUA who used to post a lot here in the comments and in the Heartiste comments and he helped a lot… Read more »

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You might reach him here Sebastian.Pritchard@rollins.edu

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Great stuff Palma. Underscores why these fakers like Bitch Muscles and George Homo are so detestable.

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“practically begging for direction with their kids.” Young men have no guidance and they need it. You know what is interesting in what has happened with young men and women these days? There is less and less contact with older, experienced and successful people. Over the 1.5 million or so years of human existence, it is only for about the past one hundred years that most people have gone to anyone other than the oldest person they knew for solutions to life’s problems. Anthropologists tell us that in prehistoric times, the accumulated wisdom of older people was a key to… Read more »

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“If I’m lucky, when one of them is 50 and I’m dead, one might have led a decent life because he learned something from the old fool that night 30 years ago..” Well, see there you go. Most inspiration on the path to Mastery and Talent (in anything) comes usually from an external source. That seems paradoxical, but it is not. These guys don’t usually sit in a sensory deprivation tank and dream up the next best path to greatness. I have an acquaintance who’s sons are depressed. The older one MGTOW at 20. They have no inspiration. The younger… Read more »

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Palma “I’m thinking next Monday / Tuesday and “hows your head baby girl 🖕?”” Based on her being in the medical field at that age, and assuming you mean she is in “Accident and Emergency” (I’ve never heard that reference in the States), you might want to neg or test her with if she lost any patients she might have saved recently. Or tap into her feelings of stress at work in some way. And get her to get a Feelz that she can relieve stress by having a drink with you. And if you are a sneaky fucker, you… Read more »

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Passing on accumulated knowledge. This. I can’t imagine life without the stuff I’d learned from men x2-x3 times my age. Back in the 80’s, one of my hobbies was collecting samurai style/era swordage. Lol, back then you could by them in NYC at a dozen different stores. A man who’d taught/explained dozens of things to me also collected all kinds of weaponry, including samurai swords, asked me ” you want me to show you how to make one from scratch and how to get the perfect edge on it? “. I almost pissed myself in excitement. He learned from 3… Read more »

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“Ok it means that she deals with the stuff that’s almost road kill and dragged in off the streets almost dead and has to keep it alive.”

So if she has any soul, that’s stressful. Tease and relieve her stress in an artful way.

Good luck!

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I’ll play with her by text Monday / Tuesday to find out when her shift ends and pitch for that. Speaking from a medical job standpoint, you want to suss out her work schedule. Usually in medicine it is not a five day week. It might b 3 or 4 twelve hour shifts in a week. What days, how many days, how many hours? What you are angling for is logistics. You don’t want to blow off steam one night and she has to go into work hung-over the next early morning. That’s OK if you don’t want to angle… Read more »

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I have heard it said that in 1415 about 5000 lads from all across England and Wales showed up in a little country town outside of Calais to celebrate Saint Crispin’s Day with a wee bit o’ shooting sport. Hearing of this, 30,000 Frenchmen showed up at exactly the right time and place to make sure that the lads from across the Channel had a good time by making sure that they were well supplied with targets. Of course I know this is some sort of fable, because in those days there was no Internet and the sort of communication… Read more »

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@Palma “Next thing, the fog horn at the end of the bar asks me what my wine is”. Good. Preselection activated. “Finally they decide to leave and invite me with them”. Nice! “the gay is cock blocking” Why? Were you ignoring him? In my experience: gay friend likes you = pretty much 100% guarantee you will close the girl you’re interested in. They are really good wingman and if your girl is on the fence, they will help make it happen. “plus the fog horn is minging drunk” ok if she was that drunk, then number closing her is pretty… Read more »

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I have to say it. Sorry, as the mother of boys (who have never been bullied, and kick ass) I have to.
Karate is shite for self defense.
Never recommend karate to combat bullies…
to get any level of experience it takes years, and even then boxers tend to be able to beat up martial arts practitioners.
Boxing teaches boys how to punch (unlike the fake air punches in “sparring” modern day martial arts dojos).
Jiu Jitsu is even better.
There’s a video of a Jiu Jitsu guy taking out Chuck Norris very quickly.

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@Sentient – thanks. Just re-read your FR – what the married chick did sounds incredibly intimate and forward right in front of your wife -if I understand correctly she was basically in position to kiss you, especially if she’d moved her hands from your shoulders to around your neck? It’s one thing giving you a hug – but why didn’t her husband and your wife flip out when this happened? @Palma – With the caveat about what @j said (basically if she was that drunk it would have been difficult for you to get a solid number where she remembers… Read more »

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“…with a wee bit o’ shooting sport”

Lots of arrows flung, “a terrifying hail of arrow shot”.

I just received a nice looking Chinese compound bow, purchased off of a computer site (Newegg, nonetheless) for $160.95. I started setting it up, but I’m not sure what my draw length is. Good thing is I have a buddy to ask, rather than Google search it.

But I don’t have anyone to battle and my city ordinances prevent me from shooting arrows in my back yard. But my farm has lots of antler-less whitetail deer. And no such silly regulations.

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@Blax – mostly agree with you, but this: “Everything I know that’s really useful, I’ve learned from older men. The idea among young men that ” everything is different/changed ” damages their ability to rise above the herd of ” average ” men. Today it’s ” why would I need to do that? I can just buy/let somebody else do it “. Actually doing shit yourself? I.can’t express how much of a confidence builder that is, and that confidence becomes almost infinitely transferable – even to women and sex.” This is the same old discussion with YaReally and Scray about… Read more »

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Oh and Palma – remember to sexualize just a bit over text – especially if she doesn’t remember much about your conversation. You don’t need a lot, just a bit of flirting or innuendo to make it clear and remind her you’re interested in her as a woman and it’s not an asexual meetup with a kindly uncle type.

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@Liz

Correct.

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Liz, I agree with you about boxing to some degree. At least over Karate. During my last fight, I used a side kick against a much better boxer. “Take your dough” it might be called (Tae Kwan Do), but it worked for me. One thing I have is a good sense of distance and timing.

I was having trouble clicking upvote on your post and tried the downvote (which worked), but the upvote still doesn’t work. Just on your post.

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Asd If you tried to kick me, I’d break your leg in 3 places.😂 But I like you, so I’d drive you to the E.R. And help you inside. Boxer who studied martial arts. Agree, ju jitsu is more practical, and most arts take years of relentless study, but the close methods of select arts are hard as fuck for untrained street brawler bully those to deal with. You’re not really going to ” learn ” in a class of 20 people punching air, and that’s as far as most people get. I have nephews that are becoming really proficient… Read more »

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Culum Yeah it was incredibly forward. She squared right up. Toe to toe and pushed her pussy right on my cock. So her waist was forward and her shoulders back a bit. My read is they did both see. And concluded this was inevitable. Wild. But exactly what rollo is righting about. Guys happy to share and women happy to share. Well happy is too strong but willing… That fits. She was a real handful after for sure so nerve struck. We shall see though. This womennia gone for a month and I never see her out. Palma I’m with… Read more »

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Lol, Blax, my last fight was decades ago and I don’t wanna fight you. You’re too much fun and, besides, I’d just look pathetic for beating up an old man.

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So the hoop grab here would be go along but lead them to a place you choose.

And concur about fags… Especially if it’s one. They try hard to be the center of attention and have very strong frames.

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@Liz @ Blaximus / @theasdgamer @ Palmasailor Blaximus: I take on board that you have boxed and practiced one of the Chinese in-fighting styles of Martial Arts (Wing Chun?) theasdgamer: Tae Kwon Do? Liz: Now to your post. Firstly, my cards on the table: 11 years of Judo, and 20 solid years of Karate (still training). ” I have to say it. Sorry, as the mother of boys (who have never been bullied, and kick ass) I have to. Karate is shite for self defense.” Not necessarily: It depends on the focus of training. If purely for sport / competition… Read more »

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