Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Okay gentlemen. Update on the text reply. It got stuck in one checkmark limbo. My ass got blocked without ever telling her she’s a cunt and I play hockey.

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Blacker Pill

Good lesson. Embrace it and move on.

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Dominant posture, laser, bold gesture, pass shit test with ease, kino and “Did you ever read the latin poet Arvid… On the art of love?”

Now that is how you open…

Fuck that “uh your hot” or “how’s your night going guys”

J you should post the full clip. It is out there. I may have posted it here pages ago…

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Heh as it happened, Ovid really was a notorious libertine who shocked the conservative Roman culture, and was exiled as a result and died miserable in exile, although he did produce some great poetry, just as the guy in the clip says..

(Or as Sentient would say – example of DPA from the first century AD..)

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The original PUA

https://gainweightjournal.com/the-original-pua-learn-to-pick-up-chicks-the-way-the-ancient-romans-did/

I have a tattoo quote from him “Exitus Acta Probat” (the end justifies the means)

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“But I don’t want to bang her. You would call her a whale.”

oscar, that is buffering; break this into two problems, one is getting laid at all, and then getting laid w/ the girls you want

you’ve combined them into something bigger than if you tackled them separately; fuck the fattie, then fuck her again just to be sure…. get that problem solved and behind you; you won’t care or remember anyway and sure as fuck nobody else will either

then you might find the ‘fucking the hotties’ problem…. less of a problem

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That lesbian girl I banged in my last successful field report was a bit of a whale to be honest! haha. But it was actually hella fun and easily the best sex i’ve ever had (not that I have a great deal of experience to compare against!)
Hoping to get another FR up for you guys soon. Still toying with experimenting with both direct and indirect to see if I can spot patterns in terms of what works out best for me. Catching up on here on some of the posts regarding that debate now actually

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Well, maybe there is a bit of buffering, but I hit on her on purpose to try some text game and not really wanting to screw. Will think it over considering what scars pointed out hehe.

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Some interesting observations. Ignore spelling and punctuation btw. Newly culum in particular take note. And HABD question on the FI at the bottom. So out in one of my fav cities, hit a few happy hour places a little late. Not much going on. So decide to get dinner at this place I really love. At this point I’ve openwd maybe two women… Just casual stuff. As I eat I ponder the night ahead and game thoughts intrude where to go what to say blah blah… I finish up and ground myself.. R E L A X as Aaron Rodgers… Read more »

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Oh… Also pays to open the hottest girls you see. Always open.

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@Sentient: that last bit is typically how I feel when I have some very limited success. I’m fully convinced that the ladies are evolved/designed to get those feelings from men. You are just more resistant than I am.

I imagine your Russian was just better at girl game than most of the others you have encountered on your travels.
Note the bit where she told you to go on the outside half of the sidewalk as a good example.

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“oh look your hotel” as we are out front… Shit. She remembered the name. I say “yeah but it is too early, lets go next door for another drink” she says she is going to head home”

ASD triggered/Shit test. Does your hotel have a bar? Could have said “yeah we’re just getting a drink here. Don’t get any ideas little girl. I see the way your looking at me” get a drink then seed the pull to come upstairs to see the view of the city.

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Hell you could have offered to walk her home. Your meeting a couple of people in her direction anyway. Then continue chatting/flirting. Mention having to take a piss, then change the topic. Then once in front of her place “ok I’m off to see my friends, but let me use your bathroom real quick i can’t hold it” then escalate. “But your friends” “yeah they know I’m always late ;)”

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Thanks J

This place the bar was closed, but next door was open which is where I was going to nip in to cool Asd.

But her place was like 20 blocks away… And she had a roomate. So left it.

Needed more sexualizing for sure.

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So what happened with email girl?

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@mackay “so I then don’t tell her I want her, and then the interaction ends and sometimes I think ”shit, she maybe never knew I liked her! Maybe if she’d have at least known, it could have went anotherway!” I don’t think you have the basics of man to woman down. Even if you go up to a chick and talk about something that doesn’t show intent, your subcommunications have to do it. By subcommunications pua mean: (1) eye contact and closing distance, (2)breaking rapport tonality, and speaking clearly, (3)physicality(even in daygame you can make your handshake man to woman:… Read more »

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@Sentient, great FR. Added it to your page.

Heartiste had a post on girls rejecting the kiss attempt recently and I left the following response:

“What? You have some food stuck on your lip and I was hungry. Come on, cook me some real food upstairs. You can cook, can’t you?”

I think the first part of my line could be used as a default go to. What do you think?

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Anithing that is not butt hurt and you flow on from is good. It’s not a rejection of you, it’s just a diagnostic to see how far along you are and you can gauge off of from there.

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@Sentient

busy… later…

@newly

no… any overt response is beta/butt hurt…

tell me why…

good luck!

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@HABD, i know – it’d be reacting to her, but I would only say that line with the biggest zfg shit eating grin and raised eyebrow smirk I could muster.

Or would you just act like it didn’t happen and talk about something unrelated?

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@Sentient The girl had you in her frame all along…and you liked it…you had rapport and it felt good…you need a dominance play…get her to address you as “Sir” when you do something courteous for her, like opening a door…you also need something to throw her mentally/emotionally/socially off balance. Her steel frame was the test. You never broke it. You were the cool daddy who knows stuff. Then she says “here take my number, we can get together tomorrow” punch it in and she is like “call it to male sure” Here we have her making sure of her investment.… Read more »

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@Sentient (Side note first, skip the first paragraphs to get to how I read your FR: I think this is great as it may shed some light on the overall disagreement on ‘alpha’ and ‘beta’ definitions. I really like HABD’s explanation that “any ‘beta’ [as in ‘provisioner’ NOT ‘loser’] necessarily means less ‘alpha’ [as in ‘superior’]”. A bit like ‘selfless’ vs ‘selfish’, ‘giver’ vs ‘taker’, even if both come from an ‘alpha’ mindset. See here for more HABD’s wisdom: https://therationalmale.com/2016/10/31/smv-and-the-aging-process/comment-page-6/#comment-176936) Don’t know what your previous experience with EE girls is, but I agree with everything @dirka dirka wrote about them… Read more »

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@Blacker Pill Okay gentlemen. Update on the text reply. It got stuck in one checkmark limbo. My ass got blocked without ever telling her she’s a cunt and I play hockey. It happens, part of the process. Another reference experience. All good, look: You had an HB10 throwing herself at you = you CAN have HB10s. You missed the subtle IOIs and didn’t act on them = if it’s you, you can fix it (now you know what to look for). You didn’t have clarity on what you want = if it’s you, you can fix it (and stop sending… Read more »

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“I know a man half my age who was a male model and is a lot richer than I am. Girls stop and turn their heads when he walks through the mall. If he stands still, cute girls appear from nowhere and start conversations with him. But then nothing happens. Money and looks gets your foot in the door, but it does not get you laid. His problem is that he is far too nice.”

http://blog.jim.com/culture/chicks-dig-jerks/

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@dr zipper (on the previous page) Was it one of your first approaches after getting married and rusty? Good work man. I had the same thoughts as @j when the other dude showed up. It wasn’t an obstacle, rather a great opportunity to have the friend occupied and to create a little bubble in a semi-isolation with the target. Not necessarily AMOG him, just keep the frame, ask him to join you (share value) but over there, that’s your seat here (he asked you so was ready to move), continue chatting, done. MM classic. What about sexualizing? Do you think… Read more »

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Some good stuff IRL to both us. I had a few russian women work for me so I know what Dirka and you are saying and did use all the typical stuff, high heels to get bread, how hard russian school was and how easy us uni was etc. And my kino was pretty aggressive, arm around her, hand on back of neck, hand palm up resting in her lap her hand in mine. At one point I said she was terrible and put her in a headlock lol her head buried in my side. But yeah I could have… Read more »

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There is non direct game? Who knew?

Anything short of saying let’s go fuck is indirect game.

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IRL – other than the one girl last week in line at the ball game, it’s my first shot at opening a multi-girl set with just a pick up angle in almost 20yrs; anything else had just been flirting with not much real possibility for more back in the day, I could get laid but it was more haphazard cuz I didn’t really understand what the fuck was really happening, BP all the way; shit didn’t make sense… now it does but knowing and doing are different turning a male competitor into an ally seems advanced at the moment but… Read more »

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Hahaha @IRL and Sentient. Good FR Sentient – IRL has got a lot of it. My main thought when reading it was whether you were sexualizing enough but I see you’ve already said you probably weren’t. I didn’t see any references to the usual sexual innuendo and double entendres. More generally the whole vibe reminded a lot of the interactions I had in 2015 with the girl HABD “Epiphany Chick” – it’s almost like I was enjoying her company and feminine energy so much that I never got around to escalating. The solution was to escalate and it taught me… Read more »

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@dr zipper If I make one suggestion: you are conflating the idea of male competetors and Gaming. There is a masculine life out there and there is a feminine life out there. And you want to keep these lives polarized. Masculine polarized with feminine. Just for the sake of reference, there is also aligning yourself with men in shared tasks. Cultivating guy friends as if your dating/fucking life depended on it. You can participate in fight club and talk about guy stuff with another guy. From personal experience, the better I cultivated guy friends and had my little fucking tribe… Read more »

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@Sentient I didn’t mean ‘provider’ in $ value. Sometimes they just want to be entertained. Not sure how to categorize attention whoring, playing hard to get, wanting some Rom Com moments… Would that be pinging as ‘beta’ or just not 100% ‘alpha’. Same shit… Either way, up the alpha, escalate… Play to win, don’t play not to lose. Also… you’re saying you’re just visiting… but she knows you’re a regular, you told her (“20 years”) and SHOWED her… no rush (she hasn’t chased so far). And who’s saying that experience/goods provider can be only one? $20 here, $60 there, new… Read more »

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oscar, et al….. was reading IRL’s link and you might find it useful:

https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/227-how-i-escalate-to-ensure-sex-on-1st-date/page2 comment #26 but really read all of it

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irl – haven’t read MM but have exposure to it from this site and many others; also read up other places trying to soak up as much RP as possible…. ya know, the ‘R’ part of ‘R&D’ lol

I might specifically target MM but right now another buffer is the last thing I need…. time to get out there and get the ‘D’

no, not that ‘D’ you fucking homos, ‘D’ as in Development…. action, doing, failing, succeeding

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@Sentient Now what was interesting is that she was undeniably super hot, and smart, sophisticated, a lady and also a child. And I found myself really drawn into this vortex of positive feminine energy… Just enjoying having a smoking hot accomplice. Now I did want to bang but it was a second order item… I’ve been with 6s who were fucking making me hard just being close to them… Raw sex appeal… Here it was more like a perfect possession. A different feeling. And it wasnt that i didn’t feel entitled… It was more like I felt well of course… Read more »

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@Dr Zipper “I might specifically target MM but right now another buffer is the last thing I need…. time to get out there and get the ‘D’” There are a certain number of former bloggers and book writers that distilled Game and Red Pill thought into some very seminal books. (I.e, they took a lot of stuff from a lot of sources. Mystery even studied Casanova, whose biography is a fun adventure.) Mystery was one of them. That information is on Process. It is not a buffer by any means. I mentioned earlier, golfing for 35 years and then taking… Read more »

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lol, okay sjf, I’ll put it on the list

and since we’re fighting…. I can recognize my tendency to ‘study just one more thing’ as a buffer; getting out to practice and getting my dick wet again will give me the best ROI at this stage

‘know myself’ …. just made that up, but feel free to use it lol

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hey oscar, hank….. here’s a fucking GREAT IDEA:

let’s see who gets laid first….. me, or one of you two whiners

she can’t be someone you’ve already started on…. this is from a cold nothing to blowing your load; doesn’t have to be the same night or anything, just when you’re PinV is the most important

and no hookers or pros…. just regular girls

beginning tomorrow, Friday

if you have to ask what the winner gets, I’ve already won

you fags better get started cuz I don’t like to lose

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How about of you game a call girl into giving it up for free? Would that count as a pro?

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“and since we’re fighting…. I can recognize my tendency to ‘study just one more thing’ as a buffer; getting out to practice and getting my dick wet again will give me the best ROI at this stage” Wait. What? Who’s fighting? Structure in Game is good. I have it on reference experience. Don’t be so afraid of reading in the manosphere. There is a lot of crap out there. There is a lot of good out there. I’ve been able to discriminate and that has made all the difference. Get out there and get your dick wet for reference experience.… Read more »

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” Imagine you are driving your eighteen year old babysitter home one evening. She is so fresh, so innocent, so alive. You can feel that she is totally open to you. You consider all the consequences. You look at her radiant skin, her clear eyes, her incredible smile. The way she moves, talks, and laughs makes you happy and fills you with energy. You arrive at her home. She says goodnight, leaves the car, and enters her house. You sit in the car for a moment, breathing slowly and deeply, smiling. There is something unique about being with a young… Read more »

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thx Ton, really helping out lol

have you been even reading about our sorry asses? if one of us made claim like that with our current skill set, it would need some verification, like a notarized video

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… damn, I just got through most of SJF’s Deida post above. He says almost the same thing as me, just with a shitload more words. Lol. Many, many, many more words.

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@ Ton ” There is non direct game? Who knew? Anything short of saying let’s go fuck is indirect game.” I’m still trying to keep all of these concepts straight in my head. I guess that every time a chick sees you on your Harley, that’s kind of indirect game of sorts (? ) . The PUA version of Game has been broken out into ” sections ” I guess. To my mind there’s only direct game unless something about you or what you’re doing happens to peak a chick’s interest. PUA’s are much smarter than me when it comes… Read more »

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@Blaximus Question: For all the guys above say…40, do you normally happen to feel old, dull and tired when not in the presence of Younger Women? Yeah. yeah, I know that the manosphere praises young chicks, lol, but seriously, do chicks make you feel a certain way just because they are young? Does every older woman you see or know have dull eyes and skin, and shitty smiles? It’s not a zero sum game. There’s plenty of energy out there. The answer to your question is hell fucking no. I don’t feel old, dull and tired with my wife. I… Read more »

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Question: For all the guys above say…40, do you normally happen to feel old, dull and tired when not in the presence of Younger Women?

No They all light up around me.

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For all the guys above say…40, do you normally happen to feel old, dull and tired when not in the presence of Younger Women?

Fuck no, I’m still going on 14.

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…just with a shitload more words. Lol. Many, many, many more words.

Good words matter. Rollo, Ian Ironwood, Tolstoy, Doestoyevsky, Hemingway (‘The Sun Also Rises’)

If it’s good, it’s good, no matter how verbose.

Don’t complain about too many words. Complain about not enough good manosphere thoughts and words. It’s tough to slog your way through, but the manosphere has great shit via words.

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hey now, Hemingway was not verbose in that one…. simple, plainspoken but full of detail

evidently we’re still fighting

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“Anything short of saying let’s go fuck is indirect game.”

I’m still trying to keep all of these concepts straight in my head. I guess that every time a chick sees you on your Harley, that’s kind of indirect game of sorts (? ) .”

Ton is well meaning but ignorant. Which is fine. His last FR was some four hours of dhving over three weeks then two hours to the lay. Mystery would approve, snuck in an hour under his rubric.

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“Hey now, Hemingway was not verbose in that one…. simple, plainspoken but full of detail” Shit, I forgot the Spartan prose trick. And I forgot that the Hemingway employing that sparse prose in the Sun Also Rises. Reminds me of: Bob Seger – Like A Rock Stood there boldly Sweatin’ in the sun Felt like a million Felt like number one The height of summer I’d never felt that strong Like a rock I was eighteen Didn’t have a care Working for peanuts Not a dime to spare But I was lean and Solid everywhere Like a rock My hands… Read more »

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Damn you SJF… I think you’ve finally persuaded me to read Deida. On Russian… Got blanked on meet text. Sad emoji (jk) was a great story at the restaurant… Waitress gobbled up my heart rending breakup tale… Table for one… Russian girlfriend break up. Wife issues… Loves it. I told her it means a spot has opened up for her… Lots of kino… She is all poor poor boy I think you will be OK… I say my heart will go on. Then say she is now my new GF… Eyes pop. But only for tonight… OMG! I can’t believe… Read more »

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@Sentient (@Blaximus as well): e-mail girl… Well you asked. My plan was just to let myself be friendzoned. Kept in touch, haven’t been with her since the last FR which was a while ago. She sent me a few pics without me asking. I told her I wanted her to come visit me. Got shit tested on that, must have half-passed as she eventually she admits she wants to come but she lives with her family and they would ask questions, also that she is “emotionally unstable”, and asked me when I’m going there again. She also complied a bit… Read more »

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Better looking older chicks…….

These days I think we see two extreme. Huge fucking seacows that even Blax would struggle to bang …… love you no homo….. and chicks who put keeping their appearance up as a priority

More 2’s and 8’s, less 5’s and 6’s.

Also happen to troll around in the professional wife circles these days. The new kid on the street is 64, his old lady is 45 and she pretty much looks good professionally. See a fair amount of that in the right ecconmic circles

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@dr zipper hey oscar, hank….. here’s a fucking GREAT IDEA: let’s see who gets laid first….. me, or one of you two whiners Oh wow how challenging you should punch above your weight, and challenge guys above you. kinda like how I would bet if I got a week in Seoul, I could bang more chicks than anyone else here, regardless of my experience or current state physically (which ofc no one here could help with, but I know people from work who are employed by big asian companies so who knows…they are mostly impressed by my ability to hold… Read more »

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Riffing on kfg’s comments in medicine and credentialism… Need a new answer to the “what do you do” question. My go to for a long time has bean bean farmer 🚜 but that is getting stale. Part of the problem is the girls usually guess about what I do straight off… The Russian said “securities”… So I need something fun but more consonant with their expectation. I’ve used “orgasmologist” in the past… An ijjjji line from sedfast… Will work in something like this. Her: sooooo what do you do? Me: Not so fast… Let me see what you are made… Read more »

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hank, you took the bait by ‘not’ taking it, your reaction speaks volumes no fight, no verve, no drive, no spark, no rising to the occassion; you refuse challenges from others and even worse, from yourself; you will never move forward if you are always turning away from adversity; we all have obstacles but you seem to have more than necessary because you create most of them yourself it’s not about me and my ham-fisted ‘dare’ you dumbfuck, it’s about yet one more dude trying to find the hidden switch that would change your FRs from millennial versions of ‘Princess… Read more »

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@zipper Thanks for that link you included about escalating and getting sex on the first date. However this commenter’s advice sounds bogus to me: “I lost my virginity by dropping the games and being totally up front about it with a beautiful little Italian girl who was my age and was into me. I said “I really like you but I am very inexperienced”. I wasn’t kissing her ass, but neither was I trying to fool her about myself. She WANTED to help me. Not every woman is going to want to teach an inexperienced guy, but quite a few… Read more »

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@sentient

That “orgasmologist” line rocks. I am stealing it.

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@hank, white chicks, black chicks, blah, blah, blah. BUFFERS.

Your dick only has one eye and it’s blind.

It only feels and craves warm, wet pussies. Last time I checked, even fat, white bitches have warm and wet pussies. Some of my most fun sexual memories were with average “curvy” girls.

Enough buffers.

Sincerely,
Your dick.

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Speaking of buffers, I’ve been getting an ex to send me naked pics. The old me would never have done something like that, but I could care less now. Funny, it actually gets me more worked up and horny for my wife.

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“Need a new answer to the “what do you do” question” Hmm I never tell girls what i do. I just say i work with computers. Then they ask for what company and i say the same tech company everytime then says it’s really boring shit i don’t want to get into it in a bar and change the subject. Never used it as an opportunity to spike attraction. I remember i once told a chick the low value job i really had and she laughed and said “stop lying haha”. I was like holy shit. This chick thinks I’m… Read more »

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Newly “Funny, it actually gets me more worked up and horny for my wife.” Exactly! This is what is interesting to explore… The effect of feminine energy on your relationships. The right amount is a balm, smoothes over some gaps or rough patches and really is a net benefit. So much more relaxed, understanding, interested etc. Too much… Has an adverse effect on the pair bond. Titration is important. I’d been ruminating for a while on maybe having a mistress. The Russian episode tapped that vein a bit… Move beyond just largely nameless ONS game… But too much of one… Read more »

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c’mon, oscar, at some point doesn’t being fearful piss you off? you’re getting derailed by minutia; put on some mud crawlers and climb over that shit you have a bit of a superiority complex, which is more good than bad; but if that’s true, then all these lesser beings have managed to keep you self-shackled; creates a bit of discord w/ your perceptions of being superior, no? superiority and progress are defined by results, not beliefs, wishes and intentions; it occurred to me when I gently chastised you for combining several problems into one really big one that I must… Read more »

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@Sentient, yep, I was thinking the same thing (referring back to sjf’s comments about the energy). Ex will be in town in a few months too. Talk about HOT energy.

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J How old are you? “This chick thinks I’m so high value she couldn’t possibly image a person like me working at a shit job. ” yeah this is the premise of the bean farmer routine. “you’re not a bean farmer” etc. It’s a good east spike because you always get asked it. Girls are not original… Not directly answering just plugs in a nice higher value loop to lead her though. Because most guys have no game and they just answer “I’m an assistant regional manager of qualitative measurement at Bigco. We have offices in seven states.” Boring… And… Read more »

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RSDMax actually jokes about it here 14:25

https://youtu.be/0tG67Oqshow

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Oscar

“you might be due for a check up. But i don’t take insurance.”

I could do 5 solid minutes on that. Go up down… Deadpan set up line. Then joke… Now while she is laughing you have cut space and are arm on her shoulder or side kinoing … Talking into her ear etc. And THEN the roll off… Step back.

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Good thoughts, I have to agree. I will push sex with this girl during this weekend. Problem is she also lives with her parents (despite being 35 lol; believe it or not that shit is common in Spain), so the logistics are not that great. Anyways, I am going for it regardless.

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@Oscar, let me rewrite your comment

I will push sex with this girl during this weekend. CHALLENGE is, she also lives with her parents, so the logistics are I’LL THINK OF A WAY TO BONE HER IN THE ATTIC/GARAGE/BASEMENT/TREE/CAR.

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…Bathroom/Changing room/hotel

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J that’s a great clip… The six easy pieces… Lol. Good stuff.

Note how rooted that all is in MM… Stacks loops push pulls hoops.

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J yeah i figured… Early 20s not such a question with school and all. Late 20s and up “what do you do” is 100% asked and with increasing seriousness… Lols.

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Zipper

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-QziDiznU

Not all will make it…

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Am I the only one who finds RSD Max actively annoying to listen to? It’s nothing to do with the quality of his videos or content – he’s obviously really good, but just something about his personality and delivery really grates me on me.

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sent – ‘Because most guys have no game and they just answer “I’m an assistant regional manager of qualitative measurement at Bigco. We have offices in seven states.”’ that’s what I did the other night with the 2-set; at the time I thought it sounded better but upon reflection and seeing the RSDMax vid (thx j) and your comments…. nope, BP pussy all the way; what I thought was dhv’ing was really just trying to impress her…. so predictable and yes, might have impressed her…. what a great comfort to know that I impressed her while I went home with… Read more »

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If what I do comes up…almost never does…I show a Bill Murray “sensitive” expression …super cheesy and hilarious…and say that I’m into nature and saving the earth…I love animals…I work in rescue…then I switch to a Bill Murray humorous expression…I place Willy the One-Eyed Weasel into his virgin habitat…

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Oscar ” I don’t really want to fuck, just getting the validation from knowing that I could.” Heh. That’s not validation that is delusion. There is no coulda woulda… It is fuck or walk pal. “Because only one thing counts in this life! Get them to sign on the line which is dotted! You hear me, you fucking faggots?” your dick knows this… Hence chub and precum… “A-B-C. A-always, B-be, C-closing. Always be closing! Always be closing!! A-I-D-A. Attention, interest, decision, action. Attention — do I have your attention? Interest — are you interested? I know you are because it’s… Read more »

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oh, third item, possibly the most important: sexualization! gotta get that girl to start fantasizing about the stud in front of her pounding her, not platonically dazzled and impressed

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Well lads, it was faster than expected.

Bitch just friendzoned me via text. I sent a booty call and she answered back that she sees me as a friend lol.

I retorted that I wanted sex and would not settle for anything else. I finished with “tell me when you are ready”. Over and out.

It is a bit of a humilliation that a much lower SMV girl does this to me, but on a certain level I feel relieved. I was not looking foward to see her naked.

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Zipper If you joogle heartiste sentient bean farmer you can see the whole structure. Also it’s ok when you’ve run through all the spikes to circle back and reward her with an answer… “nah I’m just fucking with you… You were right, you have a good eye (reward)… I’m one of those rapacious capitalists raping the earth’s resources and robbing widows” then transition “so check this out (dhv story” or “so tell me something about yourself that nobody knows” (be prepared to have an answer because she is going to ask you and your answer doesn’t have to be true!!!… Read more »

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@Oscar: made me LOL, but lose the anger. Someone had just posted the link to that hockey player text!

Also, more details: did you make your move over text, or did you try to get a meet and she friend zoned you on that? Because the high likelihood play is to get her to meet you without the “booty call” and then make the move in person.

On the other hand, it really sounds like you wanted to fail, so you did.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.

Kind of like me waffling about and actually being able to get some sort of rom-com “dates” but not banging.

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@Zipper, read my page: https://newlyaloof.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/why-yareally-need-to-learn-game/

YaReally handled the “what do you do?” question and how to sexualize with examples given.

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Oscar’s Buffer: “but on a certain level I feel relieved. I was not looking foward to see her naked.”

Oscar, that was not you talking. That was your buffer voice. Shut that buffer voice off.

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newly/sent – used to read CH and the yareally archives more often in the past so the bean farmer stuff, etc. is not new to me…. however, I obviously need a refresher so the links and advice is much appreciated

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@Zipper, This is a sample from the page: Some examples: Her: “What do you do?” (setting a hoop for you to qualify yourself with) AFC: “I’m an investment banker.” (qualifying yourself by actually answering) Her: “oh…” (bored) AFC: “…” (no game) Her: “So ummm what’s your name?” (no attraction, he didn’t earn this, she’s just filling silence) Her: “What do you do?” (hoop) AFC: “I work at McDonald’s.” (shitting on hoop) Her: “You’re a liar!!” (shit-test) AFC: “No, I wouldn’t lie to a girl like you!” or “You got me, I’m really an investment banker” (backtracking, failing shit-test, seeking approval)… Read more »

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attitude, oscar, attitude; that’s not failure or humiliation unless YOU deem it so

the dumb cunt doesn’t know a good thing when she sees it? not your problem

incorporate what you learned from it and move on

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@Sentient, it’s “National Legwear Day” today. Just think of all the possible lines available for this. What better way to start talking about girls legs and bodies than this? Talk about a sexualized conversation in the making.

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………I rarely ever give game advice…because none of you that have issues really have “game” issues.

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@Blaximus “PUA’s are much smarter than me when it comes to Game, lol, so I guess I’ll have to try harder to understand. But I’m just shy of 60 so time’s running out.” Most PUA’s are retarded. @Hank “Oh wow how challenging 🙄 you should punch above your weight, and challenge guys above you. (not gonna quote the rest because space) You’re in a battle with yourself and clearly losing…. The great thing about it is that either way your mind will convince you that you won :D. Just think about who you want to be and where you will… Read more »

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Bitch just friendzoned me via text.

Happens to us all.

I sent a booty call and she answered back that she sees me as a friend lol.
I retorted that I wanted sex and would not settle for anything else.

See below for the best answer to a friendzone:

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“…because none of you that have issues really have “game” issues.” – mersonia

“there’s more than one Red Pill” – blax

same coin, other side

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@zipper no fight, no verve, no drive, no spark, no rising to the occassion; Yeah, that’s literally the symptoms of the illness I have. That’s the point. I have almost no energy to work with. Its like complaining that a guy with broken legs isn’t running very fast. You’re like a guy who tells someone with clinical depression “dude, you’ve just got a bad attitude. just be happy is all.” — when in fact its a chemical imbalance that makes the person depressed regardless of what they do. it’s about yet one more dude trying to find the hidden switch… Read more »

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you’re doing great hank, keep doing it however you feel is best

no need to reply

best of luck to you

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@ias Yes, I think that making the move in person would have been more challenging for her. Will keep it in mind in the future. Yet I also thought, “I am tall, more or less in shape, younger, have made her laugh… while she is a fat 30-something spinster living with mom and dad and stuck in a dead end job. Hell she should be jumping at me” and just pushed it. I can’t deny a certain air of self-fulfilling prophecy, but I don’t regret it; I like to try out outrageous stuff with girls I don’t care much about… Read more »

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@hank my bro – no one is saying you don’t have health issues. We can see that and sympathize (even if we can’t empathise) But you may want to think seriously about why every single guy here – and we are all on your side and pulling for you, Sentient included (lol) – is telling you pretty much the same thing. Do you think it’s just possible you may have a point? Look at Dr Zipper – he’s one of the most chilled out posters going and you managed to frustrate even him. Like look dude, I lost the first… Read more »

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Should read

“Do you think it’s just possible WE may have a point?”

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