Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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j
j
4 years ago

@Sentient

“I would describe it as neutral and open and relaxed. Not a hint of frat or jerkboy at all.”

Yeah sounds like a low energy alpha. I’m more high energy alpha (jerkboy game). But as Ya explained, “You don’t have to be a jerk to be alpha or get attraction. You just have to be congruent.”

The difference between the two alpha styles for those not familiar:

http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/10/#comment-heartiste-490563

“It is the complete absence of feeling, and of thinking. It is just acting in the moment.”

Yup. Freedom from outcome + Intent:

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

J

That’s a good clip. I’ve watched a lot of the others from that session but hadn’t watched the first part of that one, the escalate from comfort bit. Lovedrop and Mystery are so chill in this.

And those girls are puddling… Lol

WestIndianArchie
4 years ago

Agreed on entitlement feeling like nothing. Girls don’t “feel” entitled – they just are.
They’re so used to getting their way, that it’s basically gravity to them.

Entitlement is not volitional, it’s rarely even observable.
Someone who is not entitled has to show you that you are entitled/privileged, and even then you resist.

I’m curious as to whether guys think that this was all 100% sub coms/0% what he said, 80%, 50%?

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Presumably, less what he said (ie, pure verbals maybe 10-20%) and mostly the subcomms and actions – ie, the things he did (direct approach, going straight to target ignoring the rest, entering the conversation, pulling up the stool etc) being actions and the things he was being the subcomms (the confidence and certainty with which he did it, no hesitation, assumption everyone would defer to him, that sort of thing).

But very little what he said I imagine. We don’t even know what he said exactly – I don’t think Sentient heard all of it.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Archie Culum Yeah i couldn’t hear his words. Just the sound of his voice. The girl giggled a few times but it definitly wasn’t him busting out any comedy routine. Subcomms 75% I’d say. And he got that going on entrance. Guy was very good looking in an old GQ John Pearson way. Not in a jacked way. He was prob late 20s or 30. He got a strong IOI I am positive because everyone in the place gave him an involuntary double take. But he was neutral expression, not cocky. Almost humble. As you might be if you lived… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum “assumption everyone would defer to him, ” And they did… They just completely deflated, shoulders hunching. Left talking to the 4, each other and the back of the 6s head. They didn’t even try to amog the guy or address him at all… And these guys were not shrinking violets… Bro jock was a big guy probably a broker or sales, loud and dominant personality, lax bro was shredded former D1 college lacrosse player who I chatted with a bit, sounds like he smashed pussy all around that place, and the other guy was a comedic drunk… Now I… Read more »

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@j, thanks for your last two YaReally links. I’ve added the text game and 4 types of game sections to my YaReally summary page.

j
j
4 years ago

“They just completely deflated, shoulders hunching. Left talking to the 4, each other and the back of the 6s head. They didn’t even try to amog the guy or address him at all…”

Cause they’re just used to guys letting them have the girl. They don’t have the skill set to take a girl back. They’re an example of the good looking naturals Ya used to talked about:

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

And that’s what I mentioned in my recent FR about my goodlooking wing – he’s a good guy, probably similar to jockbro from Sentient’s post, and has smashed lots of pussy, despite falling in lurrvve with every other chick he meets and deep in BP land – but – now that I’ve stopped deferring to him with girls (it was never because I thought he was better than me – it was more because they showed interest in him and he was talking to them and I was like “it’s not fair for me to compete” but he never backed… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Oh and that’s the other thing – like Sentient mentioned about the other guys deferring to him etc, in the long term that psychology and frame and dominance in all spheres and all kinds of social interactions – that’s what I find most fascinating. It goes far beyond chicks. I already get all the sex I want (when in the Big City). I know I’ll sort out my cold approach sticking points soon enough – I already have the base skills, just a question of pushing through the mental barrier, and then I’ll probably spend some time upgrading the quality… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum Thought of you a little while ago. Sometimes I like to do daygame and just get some numbers to throw out. Getting out my cab before lunch meeting and saw a cute girl across the street. Think of your AA and decide to go open her. Go over there and she buries her head in her phone. I say “hey”… “I’m on my way to a meeting but saw you and thought you looked bored” she’s like “oh… What?” Then she’s like “I don’t even know you?” I say “i know. That’s why i stopped. Hello.” And put my… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Cat’s vibe was really phenomenal. I would describe it as neutral and open and relaxed. Thanks for the puzzle piece. Although I may act fratty with guys, I don’t with girls unless girls go physical on me (swatting, stealing my stuff, etc.). But I will walk up to a girl who is chatting with someone and ask her to dance. Maybe just hold out my hand and look towards the dance floor and start walking. On a cold approach, even. Subcomms 75% I’d say. And he got that going on entrance. Guy was very good looking in an old GQ… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

I went to Wally World and saw the 20-something hot momma at checkout. She was kind of wandering my direction, so I opened her again. Asked her about her weekend, her kids. The girl was chatty. She was keeping distance from me at a constant four feet as I was walking away and she was following. RAS engaged. Didn’t sexualize because I don’t do married. Just having a bit of fun and bringing value. I think that the girl might be low self esteem. SJF might call it “reality transsurfing,” lol…maybe it’s just doing love. Love is active and takes… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
4 years ago

lolololol

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41413297

she has a nice melon, tho

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

ASD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLWc7XlsJW9sd4JxdbWZhvmj1wPHTNYLdo&v=DU1olZ_gUD4

Lol. Watch looks plus some natural game. Last part especially. Been over this before, there is an unmistakable extra with looks in how girls react. Sperg Warning – does not mean guy with good game can’t beat a guy with no game or anti game.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KrrKU5UKKaM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BVtETb9VhUY

Not everything is a highlight reel…

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

@Sentient

an obvious ruthless focus and immediate action – Which appeared effortless.

I’ve hit that point a few times but it’s not consistent. Easy charm.

Brought me back to thinking about being “entitled”. And while we can describe what that is… What does it “feel” like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1e5h9YSe_k

Yup, no challenge is too big, the world is at your feet, you own it. Like some superconducting state of mind when your own energy stops being dissipated, there’s no resistance, no buffers, no self-doubt, no hesitation (as opposed to no intent). Effortless state… Liminal space…

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Lol at Travolta strutting. I remember those days.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Entitled wrt females – think back about every girl you’ve ever tried to bed and were successful. Now, realize that every girl, with very few exceptions, is just as bangable…. because they are.

The ball is forever in your court.

( disclaimer: um… 70 year old out of shape dudes not included for the most part. )

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Sentient That guy with looks in the vid also had loads of preselection. A guy with preselection trumps a guy with looks and no preselection. Some of those girls were obviously drunk and drunk girls can be very obnoxious and aggressive. That cues up preselection. There are lots of good looking guys in the bar I frequent but many of them don’t get much attention from girls. The way I do things generates a lot of preselection quickly. Girls with bf’s ask me to dance and I may have danced with them once four months previously but they remember and… Read more »

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

Speaking of liminal space…

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Sentient – I’m taking inspiration from that for tonight!

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

Nice!

Remember the sequence

1. Tune your brain… Play the state music loop.
2. R E L A X into it.
3. Repeat… The night is young and it only takes one.
4. You never know…
5. Laugh at a blow out…. Fuck you cunt I play hockey style.
6. Crack on.

You got this.

Also a campari and soda is a nice light drink and good for the tummy.

j
j
4 years ago

Good luck Culum

theasdgamer
4 years ago

So I need to give more detail, maybe The two girls I freestyled with I met thru the bf of one of them…he and I have been friends for a while. One of his ex’es used to chase me and we compared notes. The bf was getting drinks and I was chatting with the girls at the table and the girls wanted to freestyle and wanted me to go out with them, so the three of us walked onto the floor and we were laughing and goofing around and then I started leading both girls. The hot girl who trolled… Read more »

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

@Culum
Good man, have fun!

If you run out of things to say, just improvize and keep the momentum going:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USqZsdn_qzM
Anything opens… lol

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Was chatting up hot momma at Wally World when I made a food run. I said hi and she approached to chat…after 5 min a Wally World woman came to the checkout. Cockblocking?

I got a girl

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

You Guys are running a good Field Reports thread. Thanks For That. Shit. These songs below came up in my nighttime playlist after fucking my wife in the morning in the shower. Holy fuck she got off and I didn’t. No traction for me. And then spending a whole day farming (actually harvesting illegal/semi-legal, plausible deniable shit. Weeds. Otherwise known as revenue for son’s extra spending money in his masters year.) Well I’ll be damned but my buddy I spent time with is a Natural. But has super wide respect for hearing my learned approach to how and why he… Read more »

mackay
mackay
4 years ago

I’m a fan of this guys game. Something about it seems fun and….I dunno….modern? Like, I watched a new mystery infield recently and kind of can’t imagine him getting laid in the bars in Scotland that I go too with the younger girls (energy seems off and just a bit too unusual and possibly ‘try hard’), but I can imagine this guy cleaning up. He get’s laid a hell of a lot. I want to try to emulate his game. He is usually very direct. If he opens indirect, he still tells them that they are hot almost straight away… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@mackay Something about it seems fun Fun is good…if you like it, try it… …and modern otoh, Mystery is tried and true, but if you don’t understand why it works with girls, you probably need to experiment on girls and figure them out But this goes against the mystery thing of not showing intent until they do People have answered this before and you’re being obtuse…in daygame, if you even approach, that’s a demonstration of high value and you don’t have to worry about talking about a girl’s looks. You have to worry more about ASD spiking. How are you… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Update from the last couple of nights. Tuesday out solo for hours and hours – crappy state, the usual sort of thing. Went to a couple high end places, then a busy-ish Latin place. Found one cool small bar with cool bartenders where I did a fair few opens (and chatted to bartenders a fair bit) – really nice vibe, busy midweek, slightly more upmarket than the Latin place. It’s small but high proportion of targets and they all have to come to the same small bar to be served. It’s going to be become a regular waypoint for 30… Read more »

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@Mackay,

I’m skeptical of new pua dudes, so when I first saw the video I was on the fence about that dude. So I watched some of his vids (I like to watch from oldest to newest to see the progression of these types of dudes), and I have to say I’m impressed with his honesty and his style. Solid stuff thus far.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@mackay – am on my phone and can’t see the video properly. But if this guy’s style clicks with you, you should emulate it and get out there and hit on the Scottish girls. Don’t worry about the theoretical issues. It’s easy to get confused when we say that the things which look like contradiction to you aren’t really when you get deeper into this. It’s really not relevant for you. As you get better, the understanding will come as a side effect. For now the most important thing is to go out there and talk to girls and push… Read more »

scars
scars
4 years ago

Liking all of these FR’s – had a weekend off last weekend, but hoping to get back too it this weekend for a friends birthday in a fairly good town in the UK (Brighton) Yeah, that evolution daily guy is pretty good. I mentioned him a few weeks ago and it was his nightgame vids that inspired me to go out and experiment with being much more direct. Still got lots more experimenting to do on that front. I intend to alternate! One approach where I try to follow the classic rules, so i’ll open indirectly, DHV stories, not show… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Scars Mackay Culum “Don’t worry about the theoretical issues. It’s easy to get confused when we say that the things which look like contradiction to you aren’t really when you get deeper into this. It’s really not relevant for you. As you get better, the understanding will come as a side effect.” Right. start posting FRs…. go do something. MM was designed to work. It’s solid. You do the steps, it works. Duh…. the girl has been attracted, chased you, qualified to you, comforted by you, connection formed etc… It is consistent. You can do all kinds of other things… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum Good work recognizing you weren’t getting anything with the indirects and switching it up. definitely try doing AA warm up on the street in a high traffic area early in the night. especially the dead zone post happy hour and pre club/bar time. Will get you into state faster so you can hit the bar/club ready to go. Could have doubled your numbers. Some comments – “It’s small but high proportion of targets and they all have to come to the same small bar to be served.” This is great. Structurally good, chess not checkers right? Use the terrain… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Archie expanding his thoughts on the Mr. Smoov and the Dude Bros observation above… http://www.westindianarchie.com/meditations-on-alpha/

Mackay SCars

archie’s thoughts on investing in capital G game… http://www.westindianarchie.com/do-you-even-need-game/

For above average results, the average looking guy with average socialization probably just needs a makeover to look “cool” and a month of going out every night to get over his approach anxiety with cute girls.

From a veteran’s perspective, whatever you teach that guy is not game, but placebo. He’s got a few lines and some basic idea of where the interaction is going to go. He’s off the races.

mackay
mackay
4 years ago

“For above average results, the average looking guy with average socialization probably just needs a makeover to look “cool” and a month of going out every night to get over his approach anxiety with cute girls. From a veteran’s perspective, whatever you teach that guy is not game Look a little better, go out more, and you’ll have the conventional relationships with cute girls that you crave. But you just don’t want the norm do you? In which case, keep reading” ——————- I’ll look forward to the next installment- A few times Archie has written about something that I often… Read more »

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

@Culum
Great effort. I could almost hear you smashing those sticking points. To the extent that you made me realize what mine are and what to work on next time when I’m out of town. Clarity and focus. Kudos.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Mackay

“Maybe Archie will really quantify it with certain *things* that must be done in each interaction in order to be able to say ‘Yep. I gamed that girl. ”

I hope he does… And i look forward to his book. All 1,000 pages of it.

But you can just really really read MM ya know? Cause That is all there now exactly like you wish.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Sentient HABD Answer… Oh yeah I knew… It was obvious to both tgis was the deal. “why me” etc. I wasn’t totally invested in bang… you recognize that she wasn’t either, right?…lol… that’s where that repeated ‘you’re married!…’ and ‘why me?…’ comes from… = IOD… and i should point out that THAT comes from not enough ‘proper’ A1… which leads to not enough A2… which leads to… etc… where’s that flow chart when you need it…lol.. oh, yea… here it is… i’m assuming you were missing a step or two in there somewhere… lol it’s easy enough to blend the… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@culum WHAT? YOU DIDN’T BANG ANY OF THESE GIRLS? FAILURE! lol. Not even close to hitting the 100 opens for the day. Did about 14 Going for some huge number like 100 opens isn’t really all that useful. Its more that you use it as an impetus to keep opening people. However, 14 for day one is pretty low. If you goal was, like I said, to just have a night of opening everyone, not sticking in the conversation, but doing a quick hello and then bouncing, 14 is low. If you are out for several hours, then you should… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum Doc Z newly ias Some blurbs pre boarding… Honed a few routines you guys might want to riff off of. And charming jerkboy game insights. So after the street stop blow out. Finished my meeting… Hit the street a little. Few more incidental opens… All just for getting into state. You will see a switch flipping and the soundtrack changing from Spacehog In the Meantime cool chillness to Arctic Monkey R U Mine raw intense chillness. Was cool. Late afternoon now… Tired full hot… Need self care. Go back to the room take a nap. Hit culum with that… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Ja HABD your comments raise some food points to mull over. Spaz out reminds me of a street stop i forgot to put in the early part of the night… Late 30s 6. Decent bod. Plain face. Terrible fashion! Open her 50 feet before a light with “tourist or local?” And she Flips Out… Lol. She screams at me ” why?!!# whay does it matter!!!!???? aaaaaaack!!!!” And storms off… Lol I’m laugjing and thinking of the GLL Crazy Bull clip upthread. Anyhow we are going the same way so i catch up to her at the next light. I’m not… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Hank, Regarding your health problems, There are all sorts of things that can make you feel exhausted and tired. With me it was a problem with B vitamins and possibly iron, I suffered my entire teens and prime years with this deficiency, and it made me feel exhausted. Worse still, almost everybody told me that I was just lazy, or depressed, or just needed to get on with life, etc. etc. The lowest point was when I kept getting sick, went to the doctor to ask for a blood test, and the stupid cow suggested counseling. When I said “I… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
4 years ago

sent – good stuff though I wore out my scrolling finger to get to your comment 😉 “what looks good?” :: just 3 words but more than just 3 words lol “Be nice to me. My Russian GF just broke up with me” :: another killer way to defuse a bitch shield; do you think it better to phrase it “be nice to me, I just had to break up with my Russian gf” or “be nice to me, my Russian gf and I just broke up?” and I’ll probably straight up steal the bouncer story these details really help… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Chunky Kudos and thank you for the above list and ideas. I’ve stopped trying to get through to Hank, but I’m still concerned that he’s not doing enough ( I know hank, you think you’re doing everything under the sun ) to try and fix whatever mystery issues he’s having. You’ve hit on a bunch of extremely useful things. If you’re feeling shitty for a long period of time, I am a big supporter of bloodwork, but you’ve got to get a copy for yourself and hit the internet. ” normal ” for me might not be normal for… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Hank The point is, If you can get your health sorted, it will make a massive difference. When you find the right treatment, it will be obvious, and be like a night and day contrast, in terms of how you feel. Going back to what my Dad and my family thought was my problem, they thought it had something to do with my job, the long hours I worked, dreadful bosses, and the long commute on top of it, all causing psychological problems. What’s interesting is that, I didn’t quit that job until I started feeling better. And once I… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

Quick word on my 2017 text game As I’ve said before in a previous FR, my getting #’s philosophy is “only get numbers after sex”. That eliminates headaches dealing with things outside my control. So it’s just focus on a being a good sex provider and laying down the frame that that’s all you are getting from me. Set expectations. Why? To make text game effortless. Go about your day not worrying about what her texts mean and why she hasn’t responded in 2 hours. 2 minutes ago this was my entire interaction with a fuckbuddy: J: what time you… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Sentient Ja HABD your comments raise some food points to mull over. Spaz out reminds me of a street stop i forgot to put in the early part of the night… Late 30s 6. Decent bod. Plain face. Terrible fashion! Open her 50 feet before a light with “tourist or local?” And she Flips Out… Lol. She screams at me ” why?!!# whay does it matter!!!!???? aaaaaaack!!!!” And storms off… Lol I’m laugjing and thinking of the GLL Crazy Bull clip upthread. Anyhow we are going the same way so i catch up to her at the next light. I’m… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Blax, I don’t know how Doctors are in the USA, but in the UK, they’re absolutely dreadful. It’s a combination of arrogance on the part of the doctors (it’s a profession that seems to attract a psychopathic type character. The notion of angels in white coats pushed by the media over here couldn’t be further from the truth. I’ve also found nurses and other support staff to be pretty brutal as well. I got screamed at by a nurse when I finally wound up with a fever of 40 degrees, severe dehydration, and my heart beating stupidly quickly, and I… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Blax, Also, with regard to what you said about nutrition, one of the first things I did was to change my diet, and interestingly, it made things worse. Here’s why, when I went from eating processed foods to raw, whole foods, because it further dropped the amount of folic acid I was getting from my food, as some processed foods (for example non-organic milk) are fortified with folic acid. That really scared me, I though at the time “Jesus H Christ, I’m eating healthy and I feel even more tired”. It’s true what the say about a little knowledge being… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Hank,

I hope you can start to put the brain fart of my experiences to use and fit them into a logical and consistent set of steps you can use to solve your health problems.

As Blax says, and I found out, most people can’t/won’t help you (I found most people, including family, and medial professionals, either weren’t interested, tried to discourage me and explain it away with platitudes, or even actively try to do me harm).

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@chunky @blax Worse still, almost everybody told me that I was just lazy, or depressed, or just needed to get on with life, etc. etc. Yup, same here, with people I know in person. Also with commenters here, when I talk about “Yeah my main symptoms are exhaustion all the time, a lack of motivation, and a very low libido” and people go “GOD HANK WHY AREN”T YOU BANGING ALL THESE RANDOM CHICKS. WHY AREN’T YOU MORE MOTIVATED.” and it like, that’s literally my problem. lol Yeah I’ve done a lot of testing, people assume just because I don’t post… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@j Quick word on my 2017 text game As I’ve said before in a previous FR, my getting #’s philosophy is “only get numbers after sex”. That eliminates headaches dealing with things outside my control. I think that if you show entitlement, you can also do it before sex…field report follows with made up names and east coast city where I don’t live me: let’s meet at Wankers bar Fri. to practice advanced moves she: I was in Yonkers today let’s do alternative venue instead me: okay we met at the venue and it was on but I was only… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Hank, Some more thoughts: I know you’re upset with some commenters on here but try not to focus on that too much. Please have a look at that list again (there’s some low cost stuff on there that doesn’t need health insurance to investigate), and also look for more information. Are you getting no sleep at all? Or just not falling asleep until the early hours of the morning? If a case of the latter, you can purchase blue filter sunglasses for very little, or change your lightbulbs to types that emit less blue light (some light bulbs now let… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

@theasdgamer “I think that if you show entitlement” I do show entitlement…to girls I’ve already fucked. When i go out, it’s SNL or bust. No consolation prize number. Here’s a more entitled asshole exchange. Context: it’s 2 A.M. and this fuckbuddy has 2 girls staying over from a different country. I’m tipsy/horny and don’t give a shit: J: wake up Her: sleeping J: shut up. Stay awake J:be a good girl Her: did you get your tattoo? J: yea I’m gonna show it to you Her: no you can’t J: shut up (dont ask why) Her: come back tommorow J:… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@j

I do show entitlement…to girls I’ve already fucked.

I show entitlement to girls I haven’t fucked. Strangely enough, they wanna meet. Their experience is that hot guys use rare laconic texts–just to arrange logistics. Players don’t have to spend a lot of time texting to get pussy. Try it sometime with a girl you haven’t fucked yet. Set up a couple of meets in case one flakes. Girls may end a fuck early in order to meet a hotter guy.

Always, always, always use condoms. Never exchange fluids unless you’re very sure the girl is exclusive and disease-free.

mersonia
4 years ago

@theasdgamer “I show entitlement to girls I haven’t fucked. Translation : I show entitlement to girls I’m never going to attempt to fuck. “Players don’t have to spend a lot of time texting to get pussy. Translation : I’m talking out my ass because Idk im not in the game. “Try it sometime with a girl you haven’t fucked yet. Set up a couple of meets in case one flakes. Girls may end a fuck early in order to meet a hotter guy.” …………………Dancing to the pussy “Always, always, always use condoms. Never exchange fluids unless you’re very sure the… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Chunky

Lol, I don’t know if many people could stay awake if they took a combo of Gaba, Melatonin and Tryptophan. Shit would put a horse down.

Also some 5htp a few hours before bedtime, and theanine if lots of caffeine is consumed throughout the day.

B vitamins are necessary for the above to work.

Only problem is that you’ll be groggy as shit for a while when you wake up. Adjust dose accordingly.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

In a dark doorway a late 20s 6 latina is standing there with arm sleeves, smoking. She is a few doors up from that tikki bar. Maybe it was the memory of last year or the state building or combo but now I am hitting Boss Mode. Soundtrack changed. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VQH8ZTgna3Q [watch this. To me this is what Boss Mode looks sounds and feels like. So cool] So she is standing leaning against the doorway and I do a walk past her a few steps. Stop. Turn around and look at her. All very exaggerated, a slow fake double take. And… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ mersonia

Lol.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@mersonia Translation : I show entitlement to girls I’m never going to attempt to fuck. Lol, I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, you can’t prove anything. You’re not tall enough for the marriage ride. Translation : I’m talking out my ass because Idk im not in the game. Didn’t you see that the girl was up for a meet from my text? That she was DTF? Sometimes you are thick as a brick. chance of getting stds is super low tho. two people I know either have or died from std-related cancers this year…but yeah, I’m sure… Read more »

Sam Botta (@sambotta)
4 years ago

RELEASED TODAY: The AUDIOBOOK version of “The Rational Male – Preventive Medicine (Volume 2)”

If you’re new to Audible, the audiobook is free:
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It’s much more conversational and more male from relentless obsession with getting my voice acting abilities back, including #5:

https://twitter.com/sambotta/status/913280589259735041

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

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Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Asd What are you doing broski? “to practice advanced moves” Dancing? Ok. You set a meet to do an activity. That’s cool. But still a big gap to DTF. Especially if she has an interest in learning to dance. Or go over her resume or sell software w/e. I don’t comment much on your stuff because you’ve said in the past you won’t mess with girls. So there are limits to what is taking place and the feedback loops. Said before to many many guys… Do not do the coulda wouldas… See that a lot “dude i totally could have… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

LOL@Mersonia. So few sentences, so much meaning. @theasdgamer – if “she was DTF and gave me IOIs” was the goal, I’d have fucked 4 separate women last night, if not more. But I didn’t last night, and neither did you. @Sentient – on a roll man. The realtime updates are interesting, especially the last one with the bartender in the doorway and the Russian couple. @j – that text exchange was really really interesting. I don’t push so hard even with FWBs. I’ve been taking the view that pushing beyond a no like that (esp over text) is more likely… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum doc zipper “PS – I’m stealing that bouncer story line/anecdote. It’s great .” yeah still it. But before you guys do please please please fo and DO IT. You want to have an authentic story? Do it… These stories are writing themselvea… That’s the easiest way to not run out of things to say… Live! And do it for the experience at raw sovisl dominance… Just fucking commanding abd bossing a crowd… Chicks hot chicks dudes bros playas… They are stuck frozen with you amoging them at that moment… And imprint that boss FEELING in your bones. Standing, alone,… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Doc Z i am going to break down that Russian gf thing more for you tomorrow.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“Or are there interactions that fall outside it, other than the obvious ones (parents, siblings etc)).”

Mental illness… Lol

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Sentient But still a big gap to DTF. Especially if she has an interest in learning to dance. You need more data. Ok. At the time, about 3 years ago, the girl had much more experience dancing than I did and, obviously, she still does. At a dance studio party, we went from the party upstairs to the basement downstairs which had a dance floor. It was dark downstairs and we were alone. She was giggly and was fucking around while supposedly practicing. On her 2nd marriage on a Fri. night out solo every Fri night. Previously, the girl had… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Irrelevant. Yeah, she’s probably attracted to you (or was, at one time). That’s the POINT. Attraction isn’t as big a deal as you think and it’s a long way from there to PIV. Just because you had attraction doesn’t mean you “could” bang her. Either you did or you didn’t, that’s all that matters [I’ll make it easier – some PUAs are purists and count only PIV, but I tend to count BJs and HJs too – otherwise it does not count] As I said in my previous post – by your standards I “could have” fucked 4 women last… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Other shit the girl said…while she’s out having fun, her hubby cooks and watches the History and Science channels…she is on estrogen therapy…keeps her pussy in good working order…a qualifying move

One night I invited the girl to go to my truck…she declined, but she walked out with me when I left for the night. And multiple nights thereafter.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Culum

When the girl went down with me into the dark basement, and was giggly, she was DTF. I’ve seen that so many times with Mrs. Gamer.

It’s not simple attraction…over a period of years, it’s more like love.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

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mersonia
4 years ago

@Hank “and instead all I get from you and mersonia and everyone else for all my 8 hours of pushing through this is “man hank, you really aren’t trying. whats wrong with you.” 1. Stated your focus when going out isn’t getting laid it’s getting validation. 2. You don’t always have to twist everyones words or create a analogy to support your defeatism. so rather than go on about “god hank, you are ignoring all these opportunities with girls” that are uber obvious to you but not to me, instead just LIST those areas where I could have gotten them… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ Culum

Damn, I love you man. ( absolutely no homo ).

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@chunky not so simple. as for sleep, I usually sleep fine. As of late I have been waking up a bunch, but thats unusual. generally I will allocate 9 hours for sleep. I will give myself a full 9 hours to lay in bed and sleep. It takes me 30min to an hour to fal asleep usually. I can sleep that whole 8.5/8 hours…but it feels like I had 2 hours of sleep MAX. I am fucking exhausted. Now, drinking alcohol helps with that, and is part of the reason I do better later in my FRs, but that is… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ hank ” No shit. To a guy that got laid at 13 and was banging all these chicks well before 20, that’s gonna seem like no big deal. To a guy like me who’s nearing thirty and still hasn’t kissed a girl, it is a big deal.” *sigh* You’re gonna make me regret I ever said anything about losing my virginity….. What I wanted you to take from what I did was that I’m just a dude. A determined dude. And there’s NOTHING I can do that you cannot do. Ever. You could kiss a girl this week if… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

LOL@ Blax – Thanks, I’ll do my blushing later when I’m not out at this bar with my wing..:)

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@mersonia You’re totally ignoring the point that your not actively trying to escalate in any way. But will later said you could’ve bagged x amount of y’s. on last FR? because they were all taken, on dates. You are telling me as a kissless virgin to as my first girl, just poach all these chicks off of army dudes and shit. lol, you can do it, but its challenging. the point is that I was just ambling into these sets, and took front stage. Its not that I could up and FUCK them right there, its that its a start.… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

The relevant point in all this, which is part of my convo with ‘j’, is that my minimal, laconic text was effective at getting a meetup isolated in a dark basement with a girl even though I hadn’t fucked her.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

One more data point on women love charming cads and the license you have from that frame… And the Sistahood. Above at the restaurant with the 60yo bartender and the other 2 women. Well the new broke on the tv that Heffner died. And they were all “oh that’s so saaaad” as if he was mother theresa or something. I’m cracking up because this is a leftist city and these women are all about Hillary and srrongirlz and poosy hats etc. So I ask “isn’t he a demon objectifier of women” and they stumble through their cognitive dissonance and mutually… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@blax god I’m a stupid fuck, but here goes. more talking to a wall What I wanted you to take from what I did was that I’m just a dude. A determined dude. Right. And how did you get determined? You found things you liked, and early on, things that made life worth living. So when WAAAAAAAY later in life, when you had your back problems, you had already been successful, already had great life experiences, already been successful with girls. So, fuck, you are like, I can do this. I already have done this. Whereas basically my whole life… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

❄ ❄ ❄ Hank… ❄ ❄ ❄

You are not special brah…

❄ ❄ ❄

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

OKAY so FR, this is why you guys suck. Went to usual place by my work.not feeling it, shit it bad. but like I say, and maybe its just me, but within limits, the more drunk I get the more I can overcome being drunk as shit. so there is the blue pilled married guy who’d be a great wingman if only he’d take that big step and divorce his wife. well I leaned on him to go to this bar nearby. lots of work . get him to go over. we show up. open a girl and her date.… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

@sentient Give me what I want you bastards… exactly how I want it!!! Now!! This world is fully fucked. But another 10/10 display of the mindset Hank that has fucked you so thoroughly… Which isn’t what I said at all, but even while Rome is burning, lets reduce this to a dick measuring contest eh. maybe there were some guys that were interested in at least trying, but it feels way better to me to just criticize their every move so I can die thinking “all these guys were pussies, it was inevitable” rather than what actually happened, which all… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
4 years ago

@Hank That last post of yours reads very strangely. Your focus doesn’t seem to be in the right place, you’re getting angry with commenters that are just yanking your chain, or trying a bit of reverse psychology, when it really is completely besides the point. I can’t help but read some of your posts as wallowing in helplessness a little, which I can tell you from personal experience, for a man, will get very short shrift. Men often playfully mess with other Men who do this, which is what some of the posters on here a doing. On the other… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

…. Sticks and stones…..

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@ hank F. O. C. U. S. Let’s not go backwards to the yareally and scray ” omg ” bullshit. Or you could look to 20 year olds for life advice… I guess it’s kind of an option. But growing up I listened to ‘ old guys ‘ for the most part. Saved me a lot of wasted time and energy and fuckups. But I wanted to address something you said that’s not quite accurate. When I had my back problems, I’d NEVER experienced anything close to that level of pure pain. And I haven’t experienced anything like it since.… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

That’s what women do.

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

@WestIndianArchie “I’m curious as to whether guys think that this was all 100% sub coms/0% what he said, 80%, 50%?” Good question. Verbals vs. subcomms. Let’s ponder for a second… I think verbals need some further breakdown to do your question justice. They are tricky because we think words carry content. They don’t. There’s no meaning travelling through wires and air. It’s just random modulations we react to. *cock* It’s more like Rorschach’s test where you give the stimulus a meaning and interpretation. Completely unconsciously. *gofuckyourself* Why does it work like that? How does your brain do it? Why this… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago
Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Mackay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=979&v=OzHVBWFa3ls

That is very solid video… nice post.

but it’s not about opening or direct or indirect. it is about frame and handling objections and obstacles and sticking in and being authentic and ruthlessly pushing forward. and some nice slight NLP hooks he doesn’t even realize he is using but he uses because he recognizes the effect it has.

Culum IAS Newly etc. definitely watch this. It is pretty boss.

The sweetest words are spoken by her “OMG You’re too much!”

Watch.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum you’re doing great!… but i think you are missing a big point on the ‘300/400 opens as fast as you can’ exercise… it’s experiential… if you are JUST doing that – open/comment/eject – it’s not that you get into a rhythm (you do…lol…but that’s not the point…)…or pump your state (you do…but that’s not the point either…) it’s that at some point, it becomes rather boring… and THAT’s the point…lol… buuut IF you keep at it until you get your numbers (which is you ‘winning’…) then you start to see the patterns, as well as the subtle IOIs that… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Sentient

The sweetest words are spoken by her “OMG You’re too much!”

Watch.

OMG!… It Just Happened ™!!

lol…

good luck!

dr zipper
dr zipper
4 years ago

habd [september 29, 2017 at 9:37 am] – now *that’s* the kind of nuts and bolts breakdown that helps peel back the FI cataracts; some of us need that extra detail to help see how it all connects

good shit, thanks

much better than that “how’s the FI treating you?” jab that I fucking hate lol

hank holiday
hank holiday
4 years ago

`@chunky @blax Its a basic concept. If you want to change people, you have to pace their reality, then lead them to where you want them to go. If you go up to a bunch of quiet people shouting and dancing all about, they are going to think you are weird and shut you out. However, if you instead come in as low energy as they are, then gradually bring them up with you in energy level, then you can probably get them eventually to shout and dance alongside you. Most of you guys are uber uncalibrated. All these don’t… Read more »

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