Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Blax My default fallback plan was a .45. See, here was your chance to ride a cycle off of a cliff and enjoy the ride down. But you were gonna pussy out with a .45 . 😉 I really enjoy our little chats…I get perverse pleasure out of triggering you, lol. You obviously can’t see it, but I am always grinning when I chat with you. Any girl that tries to play the Pussy Card or black guy that tries to play the Race Card are targets of my humor. Some comedian was recently bemoaning the death of humor because… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago
newlyaloof
6 years ago

@Sentient, yeah, I watched about half of that dude’s videos already (from oldest to newest to get a feel for the true progression and skill level of this dude), and I’m very impressed with him.

check out this vid specifically. I realized that I’m great at the indirect/situational opener, but I was taking convos sideways by not “cutting the line and expressing intent” as he mentions. If you watch his vids, he’s good at moving thru the three steps he talks about.

newlyaloof
6 years ago

@sentient (hank)
Check out this video of Aaron 4 years prior when he was overweight. Damn. 3:10 start.

WestIndianArchie
6 years ago

@IRL TL – DR – I don’t agree with where you start, but I do agree with where you end. “I think verbals need some further breakdown to do your question justice. They are tricky because we think words carry content. They don’t.” I get where you’re going with the rest of your statement, but lemme counter this premise first. If words don’t carry content, guys would not have as much problem with texting and messaging. Before I parse your reply, lemme just recap what I think happened with Mr. Smooth. – He wasn’t trying to “dirty mack” these dudes.… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

Like how I put asd’s Walmart fr’s in my ignore box. Cha cha cha. Good point. Walmart is a dance studio. Could it be that I’m just having fun in my normal life–even at Walmart–and that attracts girls? Even when I’m not dancing? (I usually only mention the fuckable girls in my FRs…I was chatting up a not-hottie today at Wally World, bringing value to her life, but I didn’t mention it because she didn’t count in my book as qualifying for an FR) I focus on dancing because of my book, of course. I might be a bit spergy… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Mr Smoov. Archie

“From the outside – that moves makes him look like a friend, a former lover, a boyfriend. Because it’s so familiar. So that will put off the competition”

Totally this. I thought for a minute or two it was her BF.

newlyaloof
6 years ago

@hank, good luck with the low energy stuff. Get that worked out. But, you made me think of one of my fav dudes that is so low energy, he reminded me of you, but even someone with low energy like him can use that to his advantage:

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

ASD Seriously WTF is going on with you? Sentient and others can bash on me all they want about not admitting here to getting laid as if that automatically invalidates what I say. I didn’t “bash you”. There is a difference that should be obvious to you between what you think is about to happen and what you experienced just happened… Like you may think “Solid… she is DTF” but yet you find that your dick did NOT slip between the pipes. That is the F in “DTF” … FUCK. and it either happend or it’s still just in your… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
6 years ago

@Hank, I know that “man up” and “don’t be a pussy” sound like platitudes to you (yes they are a little overused, and someone should consider the context in which they are used before taking them at face value), unfortunately that’s generally what the world expects from men, even if they are sick (The cruelest example I ever saw of this, was a former colleague who was hounded by management whilst fighting for his life from cancer. He died 1 month after they fired him). It’s not to single you out, rather I think some of the commenters are trying… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

HABD

ha. Touche.

[though that was not in the vid… wink]

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

HABD conforms to that current social standard of being attractive (as opposed to having a flat head ala the Mayans Oi vey not the Mayans again! For the record, my investigation concludes that the flat head bit was an in group status signalling. Not anything related to beauty or beauty in a natural selection context. They might have worn red clothes for example. They were not “attractive” for how they looked, they had status – and that may have been attractive. Not semantics I think. but when he gets up into the stylish HB 8-9s (which he obviously values more… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

ASD

from Archie

I say all of this to say – that this can fail, and fail spectacularly. When you’re about to do the final deed, one wrong word can make the panties come back up. You can say the wrong thing before you’re about to “dine at the V”, and the chick will do a reversal. You can have a chick on tilt during the initial pull, and in your hubris, she hears one word that she doesn’t like emotionally and she gets triggered.

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@newly Yeah I can work with low energy in that way. The difficulty isn’t so much from *acting* low energy, it is having no energy to do things, to think on my feet. That’s what’s challenging about it. Additionally, my style is more high energy in that, like my last FR from the other day, like to bounce around and jump in sets. However, that takes a lot of energy, epecially because people around here are resistant to being opened in that way. @chunky That’s fine, however, it is an overused comment here that isn’t going to help me out.… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Sentient First, I’m not attacking you. Chill, buddy. I simply disagree about the right of OMGs to discuss stuff and have credibility even if we don’t fuck around. Fuckup Avoidance Game is always required. I’ve been in a girl’s apt. playing with her jumbo naked tits and she was in her bathing suit and I was playing with her pussy outside her suit and she asks who that girl was that she saw me with and that ended everything. And a girl was naked in my bed and she had an O and she asked me to marry her and… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
6 years ago

@Hank,

But if your internal mantra (for want of a better word) is “I’m low energy, I’m sick, I’ll never get anywhere in life”, and other such laments (I’m sorry if I’ve got this wrong, but that’s the impression I get from your posts), given what you’ve read regarding attraction on this and other websites, do you think a woman would want to buy into that?

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
6 years ago

@Hank,

Also, assuming you did start hooking up with women, do you think it would heal your disappointment in yourself?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ hank ” Its a basic concept. If you want to change people, you have to pace their reality, then lead them to where you want them to go. If you go up to a bunch of quiet people shouting and dancing all about, they are going to think you are weird and shut you out. However, if you instead come in as low energy as they are, then gradually bring them up with you in energy level, then you can probably get them eventually to shout and dance alongside you. Most of you guys are uber uncalibrated. Maybe. Maybe… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@chunky I don’t bring up any of this to people I meet in person. I always try and push through how I feel. The point isn’t that I feel like I will be sick forever, but that it is going to be a long grind to get it all fixed. So I am trying to deal with it and go out anyway since keeping up that momentum will help me get through how I feel now and find a solution. When I have solutions and things to try, related to illness or game, I tend to focus on those and… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

What set asd off today?

Lol.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Doctor Zipper “Be nice to me. My Russian GF just broke up with me” :: another killer way to defuse a bitch shield; do you think it better to phrase it “be nice to me, I just had to break up with my Russian gf” or “be nice to me, my Russian gf and I just broke up?” So the key to this first off is your frame. Your frame is matter of fact and shrug… You are NOT trying to come off as boasting or try hard… So “I had to break up” can sound more try hard than… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
6 years ago

@Sentient the FI IS cunning and pervasive…lol the overall question is WHY… why don’t you sexualize asap with hb8+ sophisticated girls?… bc you do that just fine with hb6-7 girls, like that hb6 bartender… which leads back to… was walking girl a bad girl… or a good girl?… was that hb6 bartender a bad girl… or a good girl? and what was the difference between them?… bc you sexualized right away with hb6 bartender… but not walking girl…and that difference is what seems to be stopping you from ‘crashing the upper levels’… the only difference that i can see is… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Doc Z

The other thing is “she broke up with me” also sets up the “you’re an asshole” frame. also sets up a response like “aww that’s so sad” or “owww poor guy” which if is serious – boom… you know you are in. If it’s joking, then you know how to play that asshole bit up…

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

HABD That is very helpful expansion. Thanks On this though the overall question is WHY… why don’t you sexualize asap with hb8+ sophisticated girls?… bc you do that just fine with hb6-7 girls, like that hb6 bartender… which leads back to… was walking girl a bad girl… or a good girl?… was that hb6 bartender a bad girl… or a good girl? I definitely didn’t sexualize enough with the Russian (walking girl) but it wasn’t like I wasn’t running the same kind of boyfriend kino and lasering etc. I usually do. I mean I was leading her by the hand… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

HABD you suck at teaching! Why can’t you make me understand this exactly how I want to!!! Waaaa!!!! Waaaaa!!!

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Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Saw the craziest thing last night Stopped for a quick nightcap back home. Three hipster bros… all over 6, all jacked and two tight girls. One was maybe 25 short 8, other was a tall late 20s 7. She was married (said she had two kids too). Anyhow lead bro is 6’2″ 200 muscular with a beard and some newsboi cap on (wtf?)… Has a high pitched voice odlly. Dude is rapping… telling a story. I can’t hear what it is but he is animated an non stop. Almost as bad a coke fiend in pace. The girls are seated… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Doc Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lg4At4KdiI

Another old standard from Mystery, just another kind of DHV story.

mersonia
6 years ago

lol nothing someone says to me on the internet is going to make me feel anyway.

having a bad day
having a bad day
6 years ago

@Sentient I mean it was very similar in those kinds of block actions with the bartender 6. But yeah I did not set as sexy a frame for sure, but my view is that I was reserved because i was expecting a trap… And That the feedback loop from Russian was not as strong as bartender and I definitely love a good IOi feedback loop. I was getting compliance up to the kiss attempt, but it was cooler… that makes sense… if you want to crash that higher level of HBs, you are going to have to re calibrate your… Read more »

mersonia
6 years ago

@Hank “You are telling me as a kissless virgin to as my first girl, just poach all these chicks off of army dudes and shit. If you kiss a girl you won’t be kissless and if you try to fuck a female then overtime you won’t be a virgin. Like I said in my last post you don’t have to twist everything into defeatism. Everyone was a kissless virgin at one time. lol, you can do it, but its challenging. Nothing worth having comes easy. “You have this crazy idea I’m like “yeah dude, totally could have fucked those chicks… Read more »

mersonia
6 years ago

We all love to be kings in our comfort zone.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Habd

“basically hotter girls have more reserved reactions… ”

awalt? How does that fit. IRL get on it hoss…

Buuuuut. Yeah. Somewhere at Schloss Sentient a lightbulb goes off. ⚡

A lot of the kills have been from ioi feedback loops where I just blast attraction through the roof and pull.

But with a more subtle response… Yeah it tempers my amplification. How to feel the same way with more subtle responses and play that forward?

Like all the BF kino with the Russian… Accepted without any resisitence at all, but reserved response back…

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Mersonia

Really good advice…

Buuuut…

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mersonia
6 years ago

@hank

lol like instead of listnening to music (most new music sucks imo) I listen to these

Gotta filter what you put in your subconscious…..and I have no idea what you do daily so its up to you do what you can do for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMm6tDavSXg&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJXv-NNo74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqaEmkeEL20

When you live how others want you to .You become lost when they let your hand go

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@mersonia

We all love to be kings in our comfort zone.

Sure…gotta step out and try new things. Assume risk. Next week I’m heading to a new place where another man may try to do me harm. Totally new and way outside of my comfort zone. Gaming at Wally World was new to me.

What’s new for you? What new risk are you taking on?

WestIndianArchie
6 years ago

@Sentient

I’ve found that more “socially” adept girls are better at restraining themselves.
There’s a good correlation with attractiveness – as they’ve likely been approached more and with lots of tactics.

But her ability to “handle a guy” is not inherent in the facial geometry. It’s just that she’s been in that situation many times prior.

j
j
6 years ago

“When you live how others want you to .You become lost when they let your hand go”

+1

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Archie not disagreeing here–just clarifying I see plenty of 8s who get wasted…not much self-control there. I danced last week with a hb9 bride who was tipsy. hb5-8 get approached a lot…hb9+ not so much. There was one super hot girl who got almost no attention…she danced with her date, with one of my friends, and with me. She was very socially adept. Girls who are especially high energy and friendly get approached more…shy librarians not as much…maybe there are high expectations for very hot girls to be more socially adept…they seem to be very smooth at rejections. I find… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

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Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Archie Thanks. “I’ve found that more “socially” adept girls are better at restraining themselves.” So what does that mean in terms of iois and knowing your way points…? What do these reactions look like then. Like strong kino compliance, no pulling away, bouncing places… This is all happening. But deep make outs, ddb eyes etc. Splooshing that is common with the 7s is missing. Habd asked if I ever had success and yeah with a 22yo 8 stripper and that was the exact same strong bf kino and leading game. She was kind of boring in bed though. Smoking hot… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@mersonia @culum Take Culums most recent FR. That was an abject failure. Not only did he not have sex with any girls, he **intentionally** did not aim to get laid. That’s a terrible mindset, he was just after validation apparently. Of course, that’s ridiculous. He still made progress on some of his sticking points even though, and perhaps because of the fact, he wasn’t trying to get laid. So you can note, yes, perhaps he would have made much more progress had he tried to get laid…but also notice how before on daygame he didn’t open anyone and froze up.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

HABD “‘provisioning’ also includes ‘investment’ of attention/time/treating her like a good girl/enjoying her company as a friend (without sexualizing/pushing for sex)/multiday time frame/etc…” Helpe understand. My feeling is that this ^^^ is their game. It’s not mine. I mean I generally don’t do numbers for comms security, am in a place for a day or three max, strong kino… And try to pull to close Chinese girl night 1 – after her crying brought her into hotel lobby and hit elevator button (lol. What a dick… Ps don’t do this!) Chinese girl night 2 – had in embrace after nigjt… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Hank

Lol. Culum has been laid… So.

????

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Hank

Seriously bro. Stop clogging the thread with all your pussy farts… Go do some shit.

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@sentient

Go do some shit.

Literally what I have been doing. FR from just the other night. Headed out in just a min to get some of the supplements ChunkyMonkey recommended to see if they address my problems.

Like I said, this is why this so bizarre to me.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Sentient – go do some shit.

Hank – Like I said, this is why this so bizarre to me.

Yeah… You get no points for participation. The point of doing shit is to get shit done.

So let me rephrase “go get some shit done. Complete. Attain a final goal”.

Until then your just self validating, hero worshiping and pussy farting.

You want answers sonny?

Come back with fucking precise questions ” i did this and she did that. What does it mean? What should have I done? How do you do x?”

j
j
6 years ago

Hank just do it. No need to qualify yourself. Post FRs. Only getting laid will win you Sentient’s approval anyway lol. about to head out myself. Good luck

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Hank

And if if you are going to sit around pulling your pud and making excuses and not getting shit done, ya know like home in your room, go read Scrays archive and look at what Doing The Hard Work ™ and getting shit done looks like.

[Scray got well out of his depth on many issues, but his journey from chubby chode boy to advanced intermediate playa was a great exsmple and well chronicled. Respect.]

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

J Respect. Mystery “how many days do you have to live?” Hank – how many nights do you have to go out???? GGGR – “You got the prospects comin’ in; you think they came in to get out of the rain? Guy doesn’t walk on the lot unless he wants to buy. Sitting out there waiting to give you their money! Are you gonna take it? Are you man enough to take it?” And now I shall retire to the boudoir with the wife. She has been walking around in a short robe doing sfa and waiting for me to… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

lol.

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

I still piss laughing at this part

“Because only one thing counts in this life! Get them to sign on the line which is dotted! You hear me, you fucking faggots?”

The lols do not negate the universal truth of this statement.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Sentient When I first started out in what would evolve into IT, my first regional boss was a 250 pound, barrel chested, silver haired German descendant name Ottinger. ” O ” had a voice like a loudspeaker, and the demeanor like Baldwin’s character cross bred with the drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket. Everyone was absolutely terrified of him. One day he was busy tearing me a new asshole over some stupid mistake I’d made. He yelled and cursed and hollered for quite a while, and told me he wasn’t going to fire me, but he was going to throw… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@ Sentient and Asd Some Words: We all know what is going on here. I’ve spent just as much time learning masculine dog language as Catonese. (Otherwise know as masculine small tribe dynamics) Interacting with men in men-only spaces takes some understanding of tribal language. There is structure and hierarchies going on in the male-social-matrix. There are ways to qualify in the group and ways not to. @ASD is of course trying to qualify to the Tribe. He’s writing a book on Social Gaming With Dancing. So he needs to sweeten the pot for a larger audience. Hence the “I… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@chunkymonkey

It took you two weeks to see a difference from the Folic Acid? I’m trying that now. I don’t think I have what you do, but it is something that is easy to test. Also taking vitamin d.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

@hank holiday Addison’s disease is not easy to test. And neither is a poor mindset affecting positive energy. That would take some serious Ego Adjustment. Perhaps you missed this when I first posted it about Illness Pendulums: https://therationalmale.com/2017/07/06/confidence-and-the-safety-net/comment-page-10/#comment-207344 Chunky’s post was good, but you still have to diagnose the symptoms. It always amazes me with this thing called the interwebs over the last 25 years or so, that someone with symptoms of common diseases can’t recognized the symptoms. Or that the are attributing the symptoms to something that isn’t something. I take it you are furiously finger fucking your keyboard… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

Exhibit 1:

“Whereas basically my whole life since my teens has been fighting not to kill myself, simply because being alive seems pointless, because nothing is enjoyable.”

Exhibit 2:

” . . . just LOGICALLY EXPLAIN where, in my FR, I did right and wrong. That’s it. Jesus.”

Because:

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

They require history, physical (Shit, Forge the Sky’s father can poke his stomach and diagnose adrenal stress.) Forgot the rejoinder: and then seriously expensive diagnostic testing. Get some fucking medical insurance with a low deductible (which doesn’t exists unless you have a serious job). Or go to a free clinic. (I don’t even know if they exist.) It’s 90% you figuring this shit out and the other half is relying on you to do your part. I have a lot of experience figuring in medical shit and I know that it won’t figure itself out by desire and inner intention.… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@SJF When I write my FRs, I’m stimming and hopefully giving insight into female behavior. And showing how married men can behave. Of course, how my comments are perceived may not have anything to do with my real motivation. I don’t recall ever worrying about qualifying to anyone. Just not how I operate. Not much of a joiner. I always feel entitled to acceptance. And I always seek to bring value. But usually I have to be asked to participate…I don’t seek to join groups. That started back in elementary when I’d be reading at home and neighborhood friends would… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

sorry, I failed badly to communicate well:

It’s 90% you figuring this shit out and the other half is relying on you to do your part doctors to do their part.

Doctors are just someone to pay to try to help you. And they are always in their own Frame.
Your Frame matters. And you better damn well pull them into your Frame.

This is Red Pill Fail going on here.

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

When I write my FRs, I’m stimming and hopefully giving insight into female behavior. And showing how married men can behave. I know that. And I Accept that. And that’s why I like you. And I don’t deny the MRP (Monogamous) Added Value in your Comments. Even if I don’t know what the fuck “Stimming” is. But I know you do it and need it. Good for you. You do it well. The fact that you talk in a Red Pill narrative is very important. The fact that you talk in a distilled married red pill vein is important. Dancing… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

I get it that my waffling has been confusing to the guys. Ok, I’ll be consistently into catch and release. Really, the only thing that precludes commenting on is beating LMR and further destinations. I have plenty of experience from decades ago with cold-approaches leading to same night/day makeouts…they aren’t out of date. But the young guys really feel that that shit is obsolete. So they won’t listen. Ok, no sense me commenting on it. And I won’t be setting up any dates while I’m monogamous. So I won’t comment on that either. I may comment if women hit me… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago

sent – much love your way for taking the time to write all that up; it will be a short while before I can get out to bust a move so I’ll be munching on it in the meantime I can tell a decent story and joke and improv above average; but that’s not the same as driving the process towards the goal; been soaking up the MM vids…. he sure clicks a lotta good buttons with his breakdowns and I like his style, it’s kinda snake-like I’m trying to structure my own stories to poke things along in the… Read more »

SJF
SJF
6 years ago

god damn the Dopamine gods. My wife forced me to fuck her to sleep tonight. (She had a peak experience and had trouble coming down of of that. In addition one of her equity stock picks–speculative– rocketed up 150% today, dopamine rush there–deciding what to do after the market closed.) I’m going to go into Plateau hell. Peak experiences and then Plateau. The death of me. I’m weak. gods help me. Turns out that while I was having a peak experience with my son at the farm, she was DHVing like hell at the country club. She gave me another… Read more »

WestIndianArchie
6 years ago

@ASD “hb5-8 get approached a lot…hb9+ not so much” This has not been my personal experience. I’ve been doing this since 99/00, and I’ve dated 3 9’s. All 2 out of the 3 are with top of social ladder guys now. They might intimidate some guys at bars and clubs, but I know how much all 3 of them got harassed by random people on the daily. I’d catch some of that if I was out with them. At a certain level of attractiveness, everyone feels like they could just barge into our meal @ cheesecake factory to tell my… Read more »

WestIndianArchie
6 years ago

@Sentient That’s a question for the ages. Let’s say there are 2 types of very socially adept women 1) The Life of the Party – that’s the one i’ve dealt with a lot. If you can get her into a polite conversation, you can use all the tools that Mystery and everyone else has put out there. It’s easy to talk to those chicks about subject A, but change the conversation so that you’re talking about her, or something risque, etc. She’s an extrovert that’s getting high off of interaction 2) The Ice Queen – Most people test as Extroverted… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
6 years ago

@Hank, I’ll give you a chronology of what happened and what I did to get better. Bear with it, what follows is a bit of a brain dump. From my late teens I noticed that whilst my friends seemed to have boundless energy to go out all night and party, and participate in sports, etc., I never had that same energy. Such that, I would go for a night out with my friends and need to spend almost all of the next day sleeping, and then feel extra tired on Monday morning too. My family and my friends would always… Read more »

Roused
Roused
6 years ago

“2) The Ice Queen – Most people test as Extroverted – but the reality is that few people truly get energized by socializing with strangers. We can all “turn up” with close friends and family, but random people? Nope.” You can work into that with practice. I had to for my career coming out of college as a photojournalist. Kinda hard to do your job if you can’t on a daily basis create rapport with complete strangers. It took a while but once I realize how to get my mind in the right frame I find that interaction with strangers… Read more »

Roused
Roused
6 years ago

Dang SJF, that’s great. Keep it up and before you know it you will be banging your wife on the golf course. LOL

Roused
Roused
6 years ago

A little bit to add to the bang bang field reports. Had to partake in a late end of day conference call for work yesterday. Google does this crap all the time as they are on Pacific time. I headed over to the GF’s house before so I could get some bang bang before heading out for a different project. So I’m laying in bed and rolling around getting foreplay going and the call time was coming up. Decided what the hell, let’s have some fun and fuck while on the call. GF totally gets off on this and as… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

I’ll be posting an epic breakfast FR shortly… I’ll tease you with “sliced banana”…

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

In Hank’s cryptic health issues… Sounds like Celiac. He should get the full battery of testing.

https://celiac.org/celiac-disease/understanding-celiac-disease-2/diagnosing-celiac-disease/screening/

Of course he won’t however.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Archie I’m sure 9s get hit on somewhat, especially in high-end clubs where top value guys are found…I don’t frequent those places normally, so I’m just kj-ing some speculation about this…in mid-end bars where I go, there are a whole lotta 8s and they will up their attention-whoring and general sluttiness if a 9 is in the bar and getting male attention results may be venue-dependent Mrs. Gamer is totally an Ice Queen, socially, lol There’s a 30ish girl I know who is extremely socially adept, very social, very intelligent, sets up parties, yet hardly ever touches people and never… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

ASD 9s don’t get opened – in high school. IRL they get opened all day long. A lot of those opens are beta though. But they are chasing chasing chasing. They are offering more than money too they are offering commitment. The Bulgarian had 98 thousand UNREAD emails… 15k insta followers and she showed me half a dozen rich dudes on her phone who are ready to marry her. None of this was a boast though it sounds hard to believe… It was more “oh yes… This is how it is”. The Chinese was paid 100k a year by an… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Sentient

doesn’t comport with my observations in mid-end bars…venue dependent…on social media all girls are hit on by droves of thirsty betas–even 5s…I don’t dispute your observations about the Bulgarian girl…approaching a 9 in real life is very different than on social media.

I’ll take your word for it about high-end clubs/dinners.

At your work place, do 9s get hit on more, less, or the same as 7s? My contention is that 9s get less attention overall than 5-8s.

been a while since I’ve been in high school

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

top. value. guys.

j
j
6 years ago
hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@chunkymonkey Thanks for the write up. A lot of that I have already looked into, I’ve had tests done and there have been no issues, but I have some new things to look at and I will retest some other areas. @sentient Already considered celiacs or a celiacs-like condition. Its on my always growing list of things to test for. @all See chunky’s post? See how that works? He listed his experiences and what he went through, things that did and didn’t work. So now I have more options and things to consider, some things I wouldn’t have been able… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“Just try and get laid hank”

Your insertion of “just” into the sentence changes the meaning.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

So, Blax is of the opinion that 9s get approached more in mid-tier bars than 5-8s

there are lots more mid-tier bars than high-end clubs…and they are much more accessible to/affordable for average men…

theasdgamer
6 years ago

Looks like the media will be attacking Stephen Mnuchin and Scott Pruitt in the next few days.

mersonia
6 years ago

@Hank Take Culums most recent FR. Didn’t read it. That was an abject failure. Not only did he not have sex with any girls, he **intentionally** did not aim to get laid. That’s a terrible mindset, he was just after validation apparently. I read his other post and apparently he wanted to get use to opening……so he opened I’m going to assume. If you have a goal and are working towards it that’s fine. Of course, that’s ridiculous. He still made progress on some of his sticking points even though, and perhaps because of the fact, he wasn’t trying to… Read more »

mersonia
6 years ago

Damn…. bummer forgot to close my tag on my last post

@Blaximus

I enjoyed the vids. They motivated me – and I’m already motivated. Lol.

^ Thats what I’m looking for (Insert Fire Emojis) 🔥🔥🔥🔥 found em.

mersonia
6 years ago

@J

https://mobile.twitter.com/AJA_Cortes/status/913927545313050624

💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@mersonia Firstly, I DID talk about having health issues since the get go. Difference was, Yareally went into talking about game and brokedown my FRs to give me an idea of what to work on. So I focused on that rather than ruminating on health. Health issues have worsened since around February, and more recently, but they’ve always been an obstacle. Think about this though….If I break your FR’s down……I’m basically just breaking down you talking for validation and never attempting to escalate. This is where the disconnect is. The places where people were condemning me for not escalating, like… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Mersonia

Golf clap. 👏 that was a great “hank” response.

Hank – re Celiac. Yeah like I said you’ve done nothing. Ya think with all your agomizing over your health you might have got around you know to like actually taking a simple screening as a first step. Cause it takes like a drop of blood. Exactly what I expected of you. Tell me when did you first consider Celiac?

dr zipper
dr zipper
6 years ago
Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

ASD

“there are lots more mid-tier bars than high-end clubs…and they are much more accessible to/affordable for average men”

And unless you are in West Hollywood or Williamsburg or the East Village etc etc etc or are adjacent to a U of Az, U of Ga etc etc you are not going to be running into 9s. Incredibly rare to come across a 9 in a Quad Cities Pour House.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@Sentient

I live in a major metro area. 9s are a little rare, but not impossible to find. Even a 10 every now and then. One looked like an 8 when she was tending bar…I used to chat with her…one of about 4 people, she said…I saw her made up one time when she was a customer and wow!

rugby11
rugby11
6 years ago
IAS
IAS
6 years ago

That vid posted by Mackay was very worth watching. Good game example at the store. Laughed a LOT at Cobra Commander in Keys to the VIP, mentioned subtly by WIA. Very Zen game but he was consistently getting great reactions from the girls! It seems he was completely carefree, so the girls simply cared more about it than he does and that places him sky-high in value. Curious to know what the different commenters here think about Cobra Commander (say Blax, Culum, HABD, J, Sentient, and WIA himself as he just mentioned it). On 8, 9s letting you down gently:… Read more »

j
j
6 years ago

“Curious to know what the different commenters here think about Cobra Commander” Ya on cobra’s game: “The jist of what he’s doing comes down to: 100% self-amusement, which leads to 100% outcome independence, which leads to rock solid subcomms, which is what the girls are reacting to. Their brain isn’t saying “this guy is a super stud with everything going for him”, their brain is saying “this guy isn’t trying to impress me, in fact he seems to be trying to get RID of me…wtf?? Why doesn’t he care about impressing me?? He’s just making fun of the whole thing…does… Read more »

WestIndianArchie
6 years ago

@Roused Are you talking about getting yourself into “state”..into “flow” Or getting random strangers into “state” or “flow”? Both are hard, but I’m talking about how to defrost an Ice Queen/Hottie/Socially Adept via cold approach. What guys have found through dealing with these type of chicks during Night Game – is that they basically don’t allow themselves to get excited at some random guy, because they’re pre-disposed to not really interact with others. That’s what the ropes and the security guard is for. This goes back to what I was saying about the idea of “9’s and 10’s” being different.… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

@sentient

since literally a few days ago…

there are problems with that diagnosis, so I am running through some things with Forge to check that out. I’ve been working with him to create a list of potential culprits, and which can be ruled out right away, since I don’t have much money or insurance to work with.

Kind of like Chunky’s anemia that I can test with a $5 bottle of folic acid. Started on that last night.

You guys are silly, lol.

hank holiday
hank holiday
6 years ago

As for blood work, already had it done months ago with a physical that discovered everything was 100% normal. Doctor said most of my results were exceptionally good. Looked over those results today, nothing stuck out. So again, that’s why I am going over all this with forge to see what more specific blood tests I can take that the one I had at the physical (which was still fairly comprehensive) might have missed.

theasdgamer
6 years ago

@WIA That you can identify her, and then go through a sequence of behaviors to get HER to cut loose There was a Park Rangerette who I accosted because I wanted a water fountain fixed. We were walking towards the fountain and she had Resting Bitch Face on as she passed me. I knew she was watching me out of the side of her face as she walked past while I was facing her and I just grinned at her. After a little bit she also grinned and chatted me up and eventually offered me one of her lemonades. Or… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 years ago

Hank

Did you test for Celiac? Yes or no?

https://celiac.org/celiac-disease/understanding-celiac-disease-2/diagnosing-celiac-disease/screening/

There are as many as 5 tests and a biopsy. Starting with a simple one
iTG-IgA. If you clicked on theblast time i posted this link you would know this.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@ hank I don’t attempt to break down fr’s because that’s not my thing, and I don’t know enough about pua to be able to point things out in the fashion that fits your particular knowledge base. I’m just a regular dude. But since it’s a big deal for you, I will make a lopsided attempt just for fuck’s sake. “Went to usual place by my work.not feeling it, shit it bad. but like I say, and maybe its just me, but within limits, the more drunk I get the more I can overcome being drunk as shit.” Okay, but… Read more »

j
j
6 years ago

“you must buy in and be totally present.

Otherwise, you are just wasting your time. The time wasting isn’t due to venues or the people, that one is all on you and how you approach this all”

+1

Thanks for taking the time to write all that man

mersonia
6 years ago

@Hank This is where the disconnect is. The places where people were condemning me for not escalating, like in the FR with the lesbians, I didn’t know how to, or realize they would be interested. Same with german girl, I don’t have any experience with poaching girls like that even though I had some interest. So I didn’t even know I could escalate there, or how to do it. Listen to me very closely… because I’ve said this countless times YOU LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS BY TRYING TO DO THEM no one knows how to do anything before they… Read more »

mersonia
6 years ago

You gotta Let go of wanting to control everything.

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